Democrats & SPLC Caught Funding KKK False Flags to Revive DEAD Racism

EXPOSED: Democrats and the Southern Poverty Law Center are caught red-handed creating racism false flags by funding the KKK to keep racial division alive. Ryan breaks down the shocking evidence that racism is dead in America — but the left desperately needs it to survive.
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SPEAKER_07 0:02

Good evening. Patriots, welcome to the Ryan Samuels show. A little echo to start off with. One show I would just like to do perfectly and have zero issues, but that's not going to happen. That's just something that's not going to happen. I have to come to that conclusion here. Welcome to the Ryan Samuel Show. We're going to cover some really good, uh, a very, really good and interesting topic uh this evening. Now, it's been going on for years and decades, and nobody really knew about it, but it's just been exposed, uh, exposed in a in a bombshell um revelation that has come out about the Southern Poverty Law Center. That's the SPLC. What they're doing, or what they have been caught doing, is taking donors' money and donating it to racist groups like the Ku Klux Klan. Actual literal Nazis. Now, the the Southern Poverty Law Center exists to protect people from these groups. They're famous for bankrupting the Ku Klux Klan after the civil rights movement, after all the atrocities that the Klan perpetrated on black Americans. They're famous for doing the same thing with neo-Nazi groups. But now they have officially been caught red-handed, giving substantial amounts of money to these hate groups, funding hate rallies, and creating racism or the or the appearance of racism rather than just stopping it. This is an absurd thing that has been caught. Racism is so dead that the Democratic Party has to pay people to be racist out in public so that they can turn around and say racism exists. And racism is everywhere. Does racism exist? Yeah, on a very uh microcosmic level. There's not people having meetings about how to go out and, you know, uh hurt minorities. We we don't see lynchings or anything of that sort uh in the United States of America anymore. We have to pretend that they exist so that the SPLC can stay in business, so that guys like Al Sharpton can stay in business, so that they can make as much money off of this racist grit grift as possible. So my name is Ryan Samuels. This is the Ryan Samuels show. I got some great clips. They were called before Congress. The president of the SPLC had to show up and testify before Congress, and now we're gonna see him actually be held accountable. We'll be right back. The Southern Poverty Law Center on June 9th is called before Congress to answer for why, or the allegations are that they are manufacturing hate. Don't forget you can call into the show at 561-786-2916. We are live Monday through Friday at 9 p.m. If you missed the live show, make sure you download it on the podcast. Podcast is off the chain, by the way. Podcast is off the chain. I looked at the stats this morning. I'll pull them up maybe in the show and we can go over them. But I mean, just tens of thousands of people downloading the podcast. So keep it going. Um, but let's watch this. This is a very long video. We're gonna clip it out, we're gonna talk about it, and we're gonna go over it.

SPEAKER_19 4:31

It's always worse than we thought. The one thing we get wrong when we start these investigations, when we start this oversight, is it's always worse than we thought. We now have the superseding indictment from the Justice Department. It wasn't three million dollars that they were paying these field sources. It was actually four million dollars the Southern Poverty Law Center paid to field sources, and they didn't just pay them to foment the hate they told their donors they were fighting. They actually dated them. That's right, Southern Property Law Center employee was in a romantic relationship with field source number nine, a member of the Racist National Alliance. This SPLC employee who was supposed to be dismantling hate groups with the intelligence project was dating the field source that they were paying. And in fact, they had a joint bank account. Wow.

SPEAKER_07 5:30

So a member of the SPLC is dating a member of this race group, and they have a joint bank account. That's what he's telling you. So it goes beyond, right? It goes way beyond the um the just the the funding. These people have been personally involved with them on a romantic level. Now that you could sit here and you could say, hey, well, you know what, Ryan, that that that happens. It happens with police officers when they go undercover, right? It has happened. Is it a common thing? No, but it can happen. It happens in with bosses at work dating people. So romances happen. He's a bad boy, she's a good girl. But where it goes down the road, it gets a lot scarier. Let's listen some more.

SPEAKER_19 6:30

And guess what? The SPLC paid this individual $1.2 million to again create and foment the hate they told their donors they were fighting. Now it gets worse. An individual who led the Nationalist Socialist Party, a faction of the Aryan Nations, reached out to SPLC. He wanted out. He wanted help in leaving this racist group. And what did the SPLC do? They said, no, no, no. Stay in the group. We'll pay you a monthly salary, we'll reimburse you for hosting rallies, purchasing racist materials. Of course, that was field source number 30.

SPEAKER_07 7:14

So a member of this group, right? A member of this so-called this racist group, right? They're so racist that they have to be paid to be racist. I don't understand that. I want somebody to explain that to me. One day, maybe, one day we'll we'll we'll figure that out and that'll be explained uh uh thoroughly. But the um he wants out, right? He wants out. He wants to, I don't want to be in this racist group anymore. I don't want to be a racist anymore. Please help me get out of here. And the Southern Poverty Law Center says, no, what we're gonna do is actually we're gonna give you more money. We're gonna give you more money so that you can create more hate. Because without racism, the Democrats don't have a leg to stand on. Without the purported threat of the big scary white man, the Democratic Party will cease to exist. There will be no Democratic Party left.

SPEAKER_19 8:29

How about F-37, Field Source 37? This person is the one who coordinated transportation and attended the 2017 rally in Charlottesville. The Southern Property Law Center paid him $300,000 to the guy who helped put together the event where a young lady was killed. F-27. He was paid $350,000. What'd he do? He ran the Aryan Nations Motorcycle Club. F-43, president of some crazy group, was previously convicted of cross-burning, but the SPLC thought he was worth $19,000 of their donors' money. Again, all told, $4 million to manufacture hate. We said this last hearing. I still remember Ron Emanuel saying, oh, talking about Democrats, never let a crisis go to waste. The SPLC took it a step further. They created the crisis. They manufactured the crisis. And by so doing, they became the standard, the source for determining who was a hate group. They labeled Family Research Council hate group. Moms for Liberty was labeled a hate group. Turning Point USA labeled a hate group. Alliance Defending Freedom, even though they argued 16 multiple cases, won 16 cases in front of the Supreme Court, they were labeled a hate group, but never Jane's Revenge. Never the group who vandalized crisis pregnancy centers, churches in the aftermath of the Dobbs decision. They never got labeled. And the Biden Justice Department helped make them the standard. This is probably the part that bothers me. I think bothers most people the most. They helped make the Southern poverty the standard in evaluating who's a hate group, who is it. Because they consulted with them. They had quarterly meetings. The Deputy Attorney General, Lisa Monaco, quarterly met with SPLC. They would give SPLC any information they had, the Justice Department of the FBI had, they give it to them first. They even used them to train prosecutors. And of course, we know what it resulted in. The now famous memorandum from the FBI field office in Richmond, Virginia, where the FBI said if you're a pro-life Catholic, you're an extremist. And of course, who did they cite for that? You guessed it. The Southern Poverty Law Center. Southern Poverty Law Center became part of the weaponized Garland-Biden Justice Department. Now here's what's interesting.

SPEAKER_07 11:07

This is what's been going on for years, and conservatives have been screaming at the top of their lungs that this is nonsense. That there is no big bad uh elephant in the room of racism everywhere you go. Is it out there? Yeah, of course it exists. It exists on both sides, exists on all sides. But it it has taken us years, decades to uncover exactly what the Democratic Party is doing, and they are so corrupt and so out of whack and so out of line that um they're committing multiple felonies and just dramatic and drastic schemes of fraud.

SPEAKER_19 12:00

The Biden DOJ knew all about this scam that they were running. They knew the SPLC was doing this, but they didn't pursue the case, they dropped the case. Because when you meet with them, when you consult with them, when you have them train your prosecutors, you're not gonna prosecute them. Nope, you're not gonna do it because it's too valuable politically. And here's the scary part. And I'm sure we'll have questions from Mr. Fair later on about this. Here's the scary part. It all worked. Field Source 37, the guy at the Charlottesville rally helped plan that rally, coordinate transportation there, was paid to attend after the event. Again, after the event where a lady was killed, the Southern Property Law Center almost tripled their income.

SPEAKER_07 12:49

That's the scheme. That's the scheme that we have uncovered in a nutshell. They pay people to create events that are racist, violent, and dangerous. Then they use those events to collect money from donors. Then they take the money from donors, they fuel more events and make more money. And the cycle continues and grows. And you have a serious and systematic, massive, multiple-layered felony fraud scheme. These people should be put in jail. They should be put under the jail. They've created hate groups that simply don't exist. We're gonna go over their hate group. Uh they they have a hate map, a map of all hate groups. It's mom, like Republican moms. Or conservatives, because conservatives, or excuse me, not conservatives, yes, conservatives. They think all conservatives are white supremacist monsters. But churches, because if a church doesn't believe in gay marriage, that's hate. That's a hate group. These are hateful people. Even though any church, any Christian church who actually follows uh the Judeo-Christian values knows that what the Bible says about gay marriage, that they don't support it, that their church should not support it. But that's got to be labeled as a hate group. They're desperate. They're so desperate to create this hate that this is exactly what you get.

SPEAKER_19 14:49

51 million to 133 million after they were coordinating the hate that took place at that crazy rally. You run a scam, you become the standard, you don't get prosecuted, and you make a ton of money. They got 800 million assets, 700 million, and an endowment. Such a deal. And they would have gotten away with it, but for the oversight of Congress, and more importantly, the work of the Justice Department. So God bless the Attorney General and the work him and his team are doing.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

I think you just said it. You know, what we're seeing here is an organization that held itself out to be doing good work in the country. And what we're hearing today is that in fact, it was colluding to fund and support and conspire with some of the very organizations it claims to want to defeat. It is discouraging, and it is so critical that we have brought transparency to this issue here today.

SPEAKER_10 15:45

Mr. Fair, um, do you recognize the tattoo on this man's chest? This is Secretary Heggseth.

SPEAKER_11 15:54

No.

SPEAKER_10 15:55

It's it's a tattoo of the Jerusalem cross. Your organization has referred to it as essentially a a hate image. Do you do you agree with that assessment?

SPEAKER_11 16:08

Uh I'd have to see the assessment in our material to determine what referred to it as a hate. I'm not familiar with the symbol.

SPEAKER_10 16:16

You're not familiar. Do you have any thoughts on that symbol on that tattoo? No, I don't. No, none at all. You don't have any opinion on it? No, I don't. Okay. What about this tattoo? Do you have an opinion on this tattoo?

SPEAKER_11 16:32

I'm not an expert on tattoos, no, I don't. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 16:35

I can give you a little bit of background. This is a tattoo on Maine Democrat Senate candidate Grand Plattener's chest. That's the Nazi SS death head death head tattoo. Do you have any opinions on that?

SPEAKER_07 16:52

So for the record, this tattoo is an identical match to the SS Nazi death head. An identical match. It's not close. It's not, oh, it's because the argument from the Democrats you're getting online is, oh, well, no, it's just a skull and crossbones. It's not. It's this specific skull and crossbones and this specific design. It's a Nazi tattoo. But the SPLC can't recognize that because the Democrats are the ones who are the Nazis in this case. And it's 100% politically driven. He can't even answer the question. Just watch this.

SPEAKER_11 17:42

If it's what you say, if it's a Nazi symbol, uh we oppose Nazis.

SPEAKER_10 17:58

That's indicative that they might be a Nazi?

SPEAKER_11 18:02

You'd have to ask uh Mr. Plattner why he has that symbol. I've already said that if it is a symbol of Nazism, we oppose Nazis.

SPEAKER_10 18:15

It may well be. It may well be. I think do do people who aren't Nazis normally get Nazi tattoos on their chest? Again, I I assume they don't. You assume they don't? I I would assume so too. I don't know anybody who's not a Nazi. I I don't know anybody who uh has a Nazi tattoo on their chest but is not a Nazi. Do you? I know. Do you think that somebody who has a Nazi tattoo on their chest should serve in the United States Senate? I wouldn't vote for that person. I certainly wouldn't either. Um do you think that uh this should disqualify him politically from serving in the Senate?

SPEAKER_11 19:05

Again, I'm not sure where the line of questions is going. The SPLC, if you're asking me I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_10 19:11

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_11 19:12

If you're asking me if the SPLC opposes Nazis and Nazi symbols, the answer is yes.

SPEAKER_10 19:18

Yep. The SPLC is referred to this same tattoo as a racist uh skinhead symbol and tattoo. You can see the resemblance there. You wouldn't want somebody with a tattoo like that in the Senate. No, no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't either. Um I appreciate your candor there. Um got uh a couple other questions. Um shifting gears a little bit.

SPEAKER_07 19:48

Your organization This gets really, really good. I usually don't watch videos, I watch this one just because it's so long. But this gets really, really good.

SPEAKER_10 20:00

Said um that restricting and banning abortion is a tool that the far right uses to maintain white supremacy. Um do you believe that that pro-lifers are white supremacists? Um I believe that uh reproductive liberty is No, do you believe that pro-lifers are white supremacists? I I will tell you what I believe if you're asking or no.

SPEAKER_11 20:23

Um I can't answer that question, yes or no?

SPEAKER_10 20:25

I don't think that pro-lifers are white supremacists, do you?

SPEAKER_11 20:30

What I think is that uh reproductive liberty is a right that every woman should enjoy.

SPEAKER_10 20:36

How many babies in the United States that are aborted are black? About forty percent of abortions nationwide are of black babies. Blacks represent about thirteen percent of the population. Does that sound like something a a white supremacist would oppose?

SPEAKER_11 20:57

What I would say again is that SPLC supports reproductive.

SPEAKER_07 21:03

So you support the utter elimination of black babies from the world, right? If blacks are 13% of the population and they have 40% of the abortion the abortion, that is a genocide of the African American race. So how could you be how could you be a white supremacist and be against abortion? If blacks are 13% of the population and they're 40% of the abortion, wouldn't a white supremacist support abortion? So how is the Southern Poverty Law Center making a statement that up those who are pro life, who believe that all lives are equal, regardless of color, that they deserve To live, they certainly didn't choose to be uh procreated, and they shouldn't be uh terminated due to their parents' decisions. So how could you possibly make that argument? It's a great question.

SPEAKER_10 22:22

This is a pretty serious charge, isn't it? I would I mean I would think you would be able to defend that if your organization says that. You clearly seem unable to. Mr.

SPEAKER_11 22:33

Gill, I'm not sure why you would think I'm able to do anything.

SPEAKER_10 22:36

Because you're the president of the SPLC, which labels pro-lifers as racists. Well, is your organization just hurl around epithets like that without any justification? Mr. Gill, what we do is I'm giving you the opportunity to do that.

SPEAKER_06 22:50

Mr. Chairman, what's he referring to? And can you let uh the witness answer the laws? This is outrageous. No, it's not. Allow him to speak. I know you're not gonna be able to do it what are you referring to? Time belongs. I don't like my question. What are you referring to?

SPEAKER_19 23:02

Time belongs to the gentleman from Texas. It's now expired, but he will be able to ask his last question and we'll give the witness a chance to respond.

SPEAKER_10 23:09

All right, I'll give my last question to Dr. King. Dr.

SPEAKER_07 23:11

King or uh So, just so everybody knows when he's asking his last question to Dr. King, right? Dr. King is Martin Luther King Jr.'s niece. So this is what she has to say.

SPEAKER_10 23:29

Are pro-lifers white supremacists?

SPEAKER_12 23:32

Pro-lifers cannot be white supremacists. Pro-lifers believe in life from the womb to the tomb and beyond. Pro-lifers fight for every baby in the womb, regardless of skin color. We have been aborted as blacks in America disproportionately. And so the white supremacists are Planned Parenthood who admitted that they do have racist underpinning with an agenda to reduce the black population by abortion.

SPEAKER_10 24:05

That's right. Thank you, Dr. King. Thank you.

SPEAKER_07 24:08

Couldn't say it any better. Couldn't say it any better myself. That's why Planned Parenthood was created. Was to abort black babies. Abortion is the most racist thing that has ever been passed into law in this country. It's to keep it's literally to keep the black population down. That's that's the whole point of it. That's why the Democrats fought so hard for it for years. Oh along with Jim Crow. The Southern Poverty Law Center is a joke, and it should be completely and utterly disbanded. And I hope that's what comes of this.

unknown 24:52

Thank you.

SPEAKER_19 24:53

Mr. Fair, did the Southern Poverty Law Center use donored money to have field sources attend extremist rallies across the country?

SPEAKER_11 25:03

Mr. Chairman.

SPEAKER_19 25:04

It is a simple question. Did you use your donor money for that purpose?

SPEAKER_11 25:09

We used donor money.

SPEAKER_19 25:12

So yes or no? Did the Southern Provide Law Center use donor dollars to have field sources host extremist rallies throughout the country? Not to my knowledge. Did the Southern Private Law Center use donor dollars to have field sources grow existing chapters of extremist groups?

SPEAKER_11 25:33

Mr.

SPEAKER_19 25:33

Chairman, as I said earlier. Did you use donor money for the purpose I just read? I'm reading straight from the superseding indictment.

SPEAKER_11 25:42

And Mr. Chairman, the indictment will be managed and responded to by counsel in the criminal case that's the same.

SPEAKER_19 25:48

Well, you just answered a question from Mr. Raskin concerning the indictment. He asked you, did field sources send information to the FBI that helped with things? You answered that question.

SPEAKER_11 25:55

That's a matter of public knowledge. That's in our public filing.

SPEAKER_19 25:58

Did uh Southern Poverty Law Center use donor uh money to have field sources create new chapters of extremist groups?

SPEAKER_11 26:05

Again, Mr. Chairman.

SPEAKER_19 26:06

Did the Southern Poverty Law Center use donor money to recruit new individuals into those extremist groups?

SPEAKER_11 26:14

I assume you don't want me to answer since you are not giving me time to answer.

SPEAKER_19 26:17

No, I'm giving you time to answer because that's a yes or did you use your donors' money for that purpose? Yes or no?

SPEAKER_11 26:23

Again, those issues will be resolved in the pending allegations against the SPLC. We have asserted that the allegations are false.

SPEAKER_19 26:35

Did the Southern Poverty Law Center use donor money to have field sources make donations to extremist group leaders and purchase materials for cross burnings? It's alleged in the indictment. Did it happen? We've alleged that those allegations are false. Did uh Southern Poverty Law Center use donor dollars to have field sources create racist paraphernalia that that extremist group sold at rallies?

SPEAKER_11 26:57

We've alleged that those allegations are false.

SPEAKER_19 26:59

Okay, how about this? Uh what is Fox photography?

SPEAKER_07 27:09

I love the I love the let me sit my water to stall.

SPEAKER_11 27:13

Mr. Chairman, what I've learned about Fox photography, I've learned from counsel in conversations with counsel.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

How about Northwest Technologies? And they're covered by the attorney client privilege.

SPEAKER_07 27:28

So he's invoking attorney client privilege because he can't answer that question. Because then he'll just incriminate himself. And he doesn't want to plead the fifth, so he's saying, I found out about that through counsel. Uh, so that's attorney client privilege. I'm not going to discuss it. That's all. Scapegoating. It's just a it's a circumstantial sign that he's guilty.

SPEAKER_19 27:52

Did the Southern Poverty Law Center establish shell companies to pay to run the money through to then pay the field sources?

SPEAKER_11 28:01

Again, uh all of the allegations that you are referring to, Chairman Jordan, will be responded to by our counsel in the Middle District of Alabama.

SPEAKER_07 28:16

Did you were called before Congress to answer these questions? You've been properly subpoenaed to answer these questions.

SPEAKER_19 28:24

You pay the field sources directly, or did you pay them through an intermediary?

SPEAKER_11 28:32

Mr. Chairman Jordan? Yep. Our counsel will respond to all the allegations in the indictment in the case pending in the Middle District Board.

SPEAKER_19 28:41

Well, there's all these companies that you sent money to, Center Investigative Agency, not the CIA, but your CIA, Fox Photography, Northwest Technologies, Tech Writers Group, Rare Books Warehouses, Imagery Link, J and J Electronics, and Kelly's Marine. And I'm just wanting to know if that was the intermediate shell companies that you guys set up to pay the field sources. Is that true? Will the good chairman yield for just a moment? I got just a minute and a half, and then I'll be happy to entertain the question you may have.

SPEAKER_07 29:09

He's not going to yield. He's got him. Look at him.

SPEAKER_11 29:12

Our counsel will respond to all the allegations in the middle district of Alabama. Okay. Um process allows.

SPEAKER_07 29:21

Right. So he's refusing to answer the question. If you're truly innocent, you you don't need to do that. You could do that, right? You you can invoke the Fifth Amendment, uh, you you can be kind of a pain in the friggin' neck. Uh you you can do that, but that's that that's your right. But this this whole situation is extremely concerning. And it should be concerning to anybody with a brain. If a Republican organization got caught doing this, maybe paying gay people to riot so that they could say that, oh, gay people are dangerous. Gay people are a hate group, that would be a problem. That we would need to stand up and and say something about and something to do with. This organization, the SPLC, is supposed to protect the citizens of the United States from these hate groups, these alleged hate groups. But what they have done in in this instant, and would appear in almost every instant instant in the past 50 years, is created so that they could say it still exists. You can't manufacture hate to grift off of the incident, the incidents of people who even got harmed, like in Charlottesville. It's atrocious.

SPEAKER_19 30:56

Did you do it all for the money? I mean, you said now, I think the Southern Department Law Center said you're no longer going to use these field sources, you're gonna stop the program. But you did it for multiple years, and according to the indictment, it was $4 million that you shelled out to these various field sources to engage in all the activities I just read. Was it all about the money?

SPEAKER_11 31:15

As we said in our public statement, Chairman Jordan, we did it to protect our staff and to protect the public.

SPEAKER_19 31:21

Did fundraising increase after paying people to stay in these groups who actually wanted out of them? Did your fundraising increase? Did the donations coming in increase?

SPEAKER_11 31:33

Chairman Jordan, I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to when you say How about this?

SPEAKER_19 31:38

After the after the crazy Charlottesville rally, did fundraising go up?

SPEAKER_11 31:42

Mr. Chairman, our fundraising went up. Our fundraising went up when President Donald Trump was elected in 2016.

SPEAKER_07 31:55

Boom, there it is. We're gonna blame Trump. We're gonna blame Trump. It had nothing to do with the Southern Poverty Law Center financing these race riots like Charlottesville. Sending people in there, giving them $4 million to bust in as many neo-Nazis or anybody they can across the country to create this divide and violence. Their donations after this tripled from $50 million to $150 million. And now we're gonna blame Trump. We're gonna say, well, our donations went up because Donald Trump was elected into office and then insinuates, oh, this is the most racist person and president in history. Yeah, besides maybe Lyndon Johnson or Abraham Lincoln himself, to topic for another night. But how could you possibly blame that your funding went up under Trump when you were funding race riots?

SPEAKER_19 33:07

Fundraising go up after you paid a field source to coordinate the transportation at an event in Charlottesville where a person was killed. That's what I'm asking. Did it go up? Because according to what we know, you went from 51 million to 133 million in one year.

SPEAKER_11 33:19

And that happened when President Donald Trump was elected.

SPEAKER_07 33:25

So are you making the so here's the here's the problem. The Southern Poverty Law Center is saying that they went up because of Trump. But also at that time they were funding these hate groups. So you're willing to say that you know for sure that Donald Trump being elected got you all this money. But you're not willing to say, hey, maybe the ab the bunch of skinheads we we sent into a town to burn it down and scream racist things and bring to light that there's all this racism here had nothing to do with us getting all this money. It was Donald Trump's fault, like everything else. Which is a ridiculous notion. It's a ridiculous notion. But that's how far gone these people are. That's how far gone the left is.

SPEAKER_08 34:20

Who's the president of the National Socialist Party?

SPEAKER_19 34:25

You know? You know who he is?

SPEAKER_11 34:28

Mr. Chairman, that's an allegation in the indictment that will be responded to by counsel in the Middle District of Alabama.

SPEAKER_05 34:36

What I find truly ironic is that how this is the second hearing in just a few weeks and where we have to confront the hatred festering inside the very organization that claims that it is fighting for, fighting against, of course, the hatred that being. According to a superseding indictment, the SPLC paid more than $4.1 million to informants tied to extremist groups, including the KKK from 2010 to 2023. In two cases, informants who were active members of the local KKK chapter reportedly told the SPLC that they wanted out because they feared for their safety. Instead of supporting their exit, the SPLC employee allegedly encouraged them to remain involved and offered them a monthly salary of $1,200 to do so. As a result, one informant rose into a leadership role within the KKK, recruited other new members, purchased KKK materials, and were even reimbursed for expensive related to cross-burning events. I can't make this up. This is not just out ironic, sir. It's quite outrageous. Sir, as you highlighted in your testimony, these organizations have survived for 55 years taking donations from generous donors. During this time, were these donors ever informed where and whom their money was being passed on to?

SPEAKER_11 36:00

Congressman Hunt.

SPEAKER_05 36:02

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_11 36:02

All the allegations in the indictment will be addressed in the middle district of Alabama in the case pending against the case.

SPEAKER_07 36:10

We're working on finding excuses for that behavior. And we're going to write it down whenever we can get that done. That's the answer.

SPEAKER_05 36:22

And were they informed? Were they informed that this was actually funding members of the KKK?

SPEAKER_11 36:28

Congressman Hunt.

SPEAKER_05 36:29

So if the donor says, hey, I'm going to give y'all, I'm going to give y'all a million dollars. Did you then say, well, we're actually going to have a covert operation that's going to secretly give money to KKK to fund the organization? And then did the donor then say, Well, that sounds like a good idea. Please take more of my money. That ever happened?

SPEAKER_11 36:45

Congressman Hunt, all of the allegations in the indictment will be addressed in the Middle District of Alabama in the criminal proceedings.

SPEAKER_05 36:54

So, you know, here in politics, we take, you know, you know, we take money from donors, and you know, we have a lot of donor meetings, and the first thing we want to do is they want to understand the platform that they are given to. And my guess is that if you have a donor that's given to your organization, you didn't tell them that they were giving money to KKK. That's fair to say. And if they didn't know that they were giving money to the to the KKK, I would call that nefarious intent. We have a bigger problem in this country and with your organization. So I will say this. My Democrat colleagues sit here and they defend your organization, and I will use my time, the rest of my time to reiterate what I have said many a day sitting in this chair. The Democrat Party has built an entire political machine on grievance. They don't want to solve problems. They want to reopen wounds of the past. They don't offer vision. They offer victimhood. Racism, white supremacy, Jim Crow, democracy is dying. Why? Because fear is the currency of the Democrat Party. Division is their strategy. Outrage is their oxygen. I had a previous colleague that talked about, you know, seeing a black pilot and what that would mean to Charlie Kirk's comments. And it's funny, black pilot here, by the way. Um, I actually went to flight school, West Point graduate, learned how to fly the Apache helicopter with the flight school in 2005. You see, there was no DEI. We just simply competed with everyone else, and I was selected, fought in combat, went on the flip to fly 55 combat air missions, and nobody gave a damn what I looked like because I got there on merit. What DEI does is it lowers standards based on race and based on gender. Ma'am, you are nodding your head. First of all, thank you for your legacy. Thank you for your family's legacy. What was your uncle's dream, if you don't mind me asking?

SPEAKER_12 38:40

Martin Luther King said he had a dream. It was rooted in the American dream that one day there would be no black power and no white power, only God power and human power. He wanted us to learn to live together as brothers and sisters and not perish as fools. Why would we only get 10% set asides when we are entitled to the same percentage as every American out of the 100%? I'm gonna yield back to you because I would talk too long. God bless you, sir.

SPEAKER_05 39:09

God bless you, ma'am. And what I understand is that as Democrats would have it, they wouldn't that every single black person should be a Democrat, which would make us the only demographic in the entire world that would think that their entire race should belong to one party. And what your uncle was referring to is this being in judgment by the color of your skin, but by the content of your character, and having representation from all people from all walks of life on both sides of the party. And I would argue that I am living, we are living your uncle's dream.

SPEAKER_12 39:32

Are we living one race?

SPEAKER_05 39:34

Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. I've seen it before you today as a United States congressman, my brother, sister, and I all went to West Point. We're all West Point graduates. We all served our country. And I'm here to tell you that I am living that dream every single day. And I am so proud of you and proud of what you stand for because I know it's not easy, but I'm so glad that people like you are fighting the good fight for the great future of this country because we are here living Dr. Martin Luther King's dream. It's why I am sitting here today being judged not by the color of my skin, by the content of my character from a white majority district in Houston, Texas, and I've been black for my entire life. Stop listening to the crap of the left and realize that we are all in the we're all in one boat, rolling in the same direction because of people like you. We must fight against organizations that want to give a dime to organizations like the KKK for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_19 40:23

Mr. Fair, if you're trying to stop hate, why would you encourage people to attend a hate rally?

SPEAKER_07 40:28

This guy is just getting slow roasted in this congressional hearing. Slow. I mean, this went on for hours. These are just clips.

SPEAKER_08 40:41

This went on for hours. And it continues.

SPEAKER_07 40:49

I mean, look let's just watch some more. I mean, I I can't get enough of this stuff.

SPEAKER_11 41:00

The SPLC doesn't encourage people to attend hate rallies, uh Chairman Jordan. And if you're referring to any allegations in the indictment, well, I just I'm not just asking in general.

SPEAKER_19 41:11

I'm not saying with it well, it's one thing you said you've had informants had field sources. If you have informants and field sources there, that's one thing. But the indictment says that these informants and field sources were encouraging other people to attend these hate rallies. And I'm saying, okay, so you don't have to answer that specifically, but is that a good thing in general?

SPEAKER_11 41:29

Again, all the allegations in the indictment will be addressed.

SPEAKER_19 41:35

Do you wish you hadn't have done the program? You said the program was successful, helpful, but now you're stopping it.

SPEAKER_11 41:45

We've st we uh uh uh stopped the program because we believe uh uh hate and extremism has migrated uh significantly online and into government agencies.

SPEAKER_17 41:59

Wow. Wow, that's that's that's that's big that makes no sense.

SPEAKER_13 42:05

Instead of confronting So uh to be clear, right?

SPEAKER_07 42:09

I'm gonna rewind this. They get caught infiltrating, funding, they get caught funding these hate groups. Caught, they get indicted, then they stop because now that they're no longer funding these groups, they all of a sudden just dissipated. Oh, they went online and they infiltrated the government.

SPEAKER_08 42:48

Who is now coming after us? Does that make sense to anybody? Drop your comments, call in.

SPEAKER_07 42:58

Let me know. We stopped funding them. So now all of a sudden they don't exist. It's an amazing and incredible analogy. Let's watch it again.

SPEAKER_11 43:22

We've st we stopped the program because we believe hate and extremism has migrated significantly online and into government agencies.

SPEAKER_17 43:36

Wow. Wow, that's that's that's that's big. That makes no sense.

SPEAKER_13 43:41

Instead of confrow.

SPEAKER_08 43:49

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 43:52

Look how uncomfortable he is saying that. Finding any excuse he can to say that.

SPEAKER_14 43:57

Confronting hate, standing up for justice. Or defending civil and human rights, the SPLC has been funding the exact opposite, with the added votus of then using their donations to target right-leaning organizations such as the Family Research Council and Turning Point USA simply because they believe in traditional marriage and the sanctity of the family unit while also opposing abortion. Stated another way, SPLC has been using its funds to attack those very organizations that actually do confront hate, stand for justice, and defend civil and human rights. And the SPLC funded actual Nazis and white supremacists in order to do so.

SPEAKER_04 44:47

Mr. Fair, in 2012, the Family Research Council was attacked and the guard in the front of the building was shot. The head of the Family Research Council, Tony Perkins, made quite note at the time of Southern Poverty Law Center's involvement in that in uh putting Family Research Council on their so-called hate map. Has the SPLC ever acknowledged that its designation contributed to that attack?

SPEAKER_11 45:20

Congressman Roy.

SPEAKER_04 45:22

Yes or no?

SPEAKER_11 45:23

I can't answer that question with a yes or no.

SPEAKER_04 45:26

You asked me if I did they retract, correct, or reconsider the listing of the Family Research Council on its hate map?

SPEAKER_11 45:32

The Family Research Council is listed on our hate map because it meets the criteria.

SPEAKER_04 45:42

Is that true?

SPEAKER_11 45:43

The Family Research Council remains on the hate map because it meets the criteria that we use for the United States.

SPEAKER_04 45:50

Which criteria?

SPEAKER_11 45:52

The Family Research Council is an anti-LGBTQ.

SPEAKER_04 45:56

Okay, so on your website, you used to have language on there defending your position on the Family Research Council, and you had language saying that other groups, like Focus on the Family, are not included, and you use that as your defense. Well, that language is now gone, and Fam Focus on the Family is now noted as a hate group. Mr. Roy. Can you explain that?

SPEAKER_11 46:18

Congressman Roy, we take no pleasure in listing any group, and we wish the list was empty.

SPEAKER_04 46:23

But we have the constitutional right to express our leftist anti-Jewish groups do you have listed on your website? We uh name them.

SPEAKER_11 46:34

Uh anyone listening to this can go to our website and see our again, our year in hate and extremism report was released this morning.

SPEAKER_04 46:43

How many extremist Islamic groups do you have of the 1500 or so organizations you have on your hate map?

SPEAKER_11 46:49

Again, anyone can can go to our website.

SPEAKER_04 46:51

My office has been looking over and we can't really find one. Uh again, it is the SPLC's You think SPLC could provide us a list of the Islamic oriented groups do you have on your hate hate map?

SPEAKER_11 47:05

Mr. Roy, we don't target any group because of its religion. Really? I want to be clear about that.

SPEAKER_04 47:11

Really?

SPEAKER_11 47:11

Yes, that's exactly right. We target no group because of its religion.

SPEAKER_07 47:15

So my question would be what about Hamas? What about Hezbollah? What about Al Qaeda? These aren't hate groups. They're not on your hate map. The these extremist Islamic mosques, right, that exist in the United States, not every mosque, but there are extremist ones, just like there are extremist churches, which you have listed as hate groups because they're against abortion or against gay marriage. But you don't have one one Islamic mosque, one Islamic group who is also very anti-gay marriage, and very anti-American or Christian. They think that we should be aborted at our grown age because we're Christians, these extremist groups, not all Muslims.

SPEAKER_08 48:08

You don't have one on your whole website. Here's your sign.

SPEAKER_07 48:18

You are an idiot.

SPEAKER_04 48:30

So you brought up LGBTQ groups a second ago. So you brought up LGBT groups a minute ago, so you think there's just Charlie Kirk, right?

SPEAKER_07 48:39

And Turning Point USA is listed as a hate group by these people.

SPEAKER_08 48:46

As an actual hate group. Does that make sense to anybody?

SPEAKER_07 48:54

Maybe that contributed to the hate that Erica Kirk gets, or the or the assassination of Charlie Kirk. When an organization with the reputation of like of the SPLC who ended the Ku Klux Klan and bankrupted them, stands up and says, This man is full of hate. He's a white supremacist. Maybe that contributed to the extreme anger that led to Charlie's death.

SPEAKER_08 49:24

The rhetoric of the left never ends.

SPEAKER_07 49:27

It will never end.

SPEAKER_11 49:32

Mr. Roy, we don't target any group because of its religion. Really? I want to be clear about that.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

Really?

SPEAKER_11 49:38

Yes, that's exactly right. We target no group because of its religion. We target groups because they express statements and engage in activities that demean and vilify.

SPEAKER_04 49:53

So you brought up LGBT groups a minute ago. So you think there's a bunch of Islamic groups that are pro-LGBTQ? Is that the position of the SPLC? I just want to make sure the record is reflecting that.

SPEAKER_11 50:04

Mr. Roy, as as I said, we target no group or label no group because of its religion. We target groups and label groups because of what they say about others. And we have a constitutional right to do that. And we will continue to do that.

SPEAKER_04 50:21

How long did it take for you to criticize the attacks on October 7th? Mr. Roy. Was it immediate?

SPEAKER_07 50:33

If it were, you'd be able to say immediately October 7th were members of Hamas left the Gaza Strip, went into Israel, and put babies in ovens.

SPEAKER_11 50:48

We were clear and loud about our criticism of a Hamas attack on Israel on October 7th.

SPEAKER_04 50:54

My research shows that it took you at least three weeks to finally say anything, and then you attacked and criticized Israel.

SPEAKER_11 51:15

It speaks for itself.

SPEAKER_04 51:18

And yet the response to the targeting the Family Research Council was to defend yourself for having focused on the family, and then you immediately and you pull down from the website that defense. It was your only defense.

SPEAKER_11 51:35

Speakers in the United States don't need to defend their speech. And so everyone should understand that.

SPEAKER_04 51:44

Yeah, you do here on the record have to defend the position of an organization that has now been indicted and has superseding indictment based on very clear indications of the way the money is flowing in order to target very specific groups and to potentially defraud your donors. Not to mention, by the way, banks. If I had a little more time, I'd like to have a little bit more conversation about debank and your engagement with banking. But the last question I'll ask you is with respect to Charlie Kirk, have you all taken any position since Charlie Kirk?

SPEAKER_11 52:20

Before we unequivocally condemned the murder of Charlie Kirk.

SPEAKER_04 52:24

What about the listing of Charlie Kirk?

SPEAKER_11 52:29

It is our position that TP USA expresses views and vilifies other people based on immutable characteristics, exposing them to our listing.

SPEAKER_07 52:47

Turning point USA expresses views negative people because of their characteristics. They're racist, is what he said. There's not a racist bone in anybody that works for TP USA. There's nothing there. There's no legitimate argument that you could make that. These people are insane. They are racist. They are extreme leftists that exist to vilify and crush the left, even crush the right, even if they have to pay people to pretend to be these alt members of the right. Racism is so dead in the United States of America, they have to pay people millions and millions of dollars to pretend it's still alive. Because without it, the SPLC doesn't exist. Without it, they don't get hundreds of millions of dollars in donations. Without it, the Democratic Party doesn't have a leg to stand on because all they do is destroy things. They don't build things. Without racism, the Democratic Party is over. It's the only thing that they have that they can pull out of their pocket in a moment's notice. But the United States is waking up to it. And nobody's going to be tolerant of it anymore. That's why you're seeing this. That's why we saw the conviction of Carmelo Anthony. That's why we're seeing the SPLC being indicted for this fraud. This is so extreme that my mind is actually blown. Just when you think the left can't get any worse, they go and do something like this.

SPEAKER_16 54:51

Yes, Mr. Chairman. I mean, Ms.

SPEAKER_19 54:52

McCord said, oh, she made with this long thing. I forget who was asking the question. Oh, this is the this paid informants happens all the time. Doesn't happen in the private sector like that, right?

SPEAKER_16 55:00

They're very different.

SPEAKER_19 55:01

Yeah, very different. Now, we for all we know, it could be the same people. I mean, maybe the government was paying the same people they're paying. I don't know. Maybe these guys were double-dipping. That's a question I think worth worth exploring. But uh the idea that, oh, this is just fine, particularly when the private sector, the the the private entity doesn't tell their donors what they're doing. Would you agree with that? That that doesn't make that's not the same as the FBI paying an informant for valuable information or local law enforcement paying an informant, different animals, right?

SPEAKER_16 55:29

I think the indictment points out the discrepancy there.

SPEAKER_19 55:32

Yeah, exactly. Um and particularly, I don't know, man, maybe it's happened over time, but um, you know, when you add to it that the private entity is paying an informant or a field source millions of dollars that they're not telling their donors, that's different than the FBI or local law enforcement paying some informant. Wouldn't you agree?

SPEAKER_16 55:52

I do agree, Chairman.

SPEAKER_19 55:53

Okay, let's get to this issue that the the ranking member raised early on uh regarding the First Amendment. I agree. They can say whatever they darn well want. Of course we got a First Amendment. I mean, we're we did a big investigation on when on censorship, we had the First Amendment. But what has happened, and this is, I think, was where you were going, Mr. Bangard, is when the organization colludes with corporations, colludes with banks, and worse yet, colludes with the government to silence and go after people for political reasons or other groups for political reasons, like the Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council. That's where the rub comes in. Isn't that accurate?

SPEAKER_16 56:30

Yes, Mr. Chairman, it's entirely accurate. I mean, it's sort of like the old Sesame Street sketch of one of these things is not like the other. I mean, on the one hand, you have violent extremist groups. On the other hand, you have peaceful, pro-family, Christian, conservative organizations. And what the SPLC has done over time is it has expanded this hate map to include the latter. And then what it's done after that is it's launched this organization called Change the Terms, gone to corporate America, and embedded itself in the decision-making architecture of corporate America, including key institutions like financial firms, technology firms, online social media platforms, and demanded that they de-platform, debank, and deny services to every single organization on that hate map, including the ones that aren't like the other.

SPEAKER_07 57:21

And again, so just so everybody knows what de-banking is. Debanking is they don't like me, Ryan Samuels, right? So I have a media company, right? I have this show. I'm making X amount of dollars. That money from advertisers or donate donors are getting pushed into the bank account. The bank comes to me and says, We don't want your business anymore because you've been classified as a hate group. So what does that mean? So that means we can't take your money anymore. Okay. I go to another bank. No, we can't take your money either because you've been debanked. You've not been de-banked from Bank of America and not Chase. You've been debanked from everything. So they're going behind the scenes and they're destroying people's lives and businesses based on their what, their speech? He sat there and says everybody has a right to speak, but then behind the scenes, he's de-banking people for speaking freely under the United States Constitution. The very thing he's so concerned about in this hearing.

SPEAKER_08 58:38

This is the hypocrisy of the left. This is what they do behind the scenes. And then they play the victim.

SPEAKER_07 58:50

Remember, now that we're no longer funding hate groups, they've dissipated into the government and now they're coming after us. Which is essentially what he said.

SPEAKER_19 59:01

That's all bad. We disagree with it. Lumping you all together and going to these entities and doing that. But what's really wrong is when they go to government and get the government's stamp of approval, which is what I think happened. This is why there was this cozy relationship between the Biden-Garland Justice Department and the Southern Poverty Law Center. Do you agree with that?

unknown 59:18

Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_16 59:18

That compounds the problem exponentially.

SPEAKER_19 59:21

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Yeah. Because when you when when when the government, when the Justice Department is making them out to be the end-all, be-all standard objective source out there, bringing them into quarterly meetings, using their material, helping them, having them train their prosecutors, that's when we get into the problem. So much so that the FBI director sat in the same seat you're sitting and said that memorandum written by the Richmond Field Office was wrong. It was I was aghast. I can't remember all the terms he used. That's where it leads to an actual document from the government saying if you're a pro-life Catholic, you're an extremist.

SPEAKER_16 59:54

The government, especially when it's engaging in prosecution, relies on evidence. The hate map, as courts have found, is not evidence of anything. In fact, it's a sham and a fraud. Trevor Burrus, Jr. Yeah.

SPEAKER_19 1:00:05

So all that went on, and now we learn, now we learn that they had field sources, that's what they called them, that they were paying $4 million over a period of years, and these field sources were engaged in all kinds of ridiculous, hateful, racist things, all while telling their donors, we're we're doing the great stuff. That's the story. And that's why there's that's why the Justice Department's investigating and has indicted him. Anything I get wrong in that there, Mr. Bangin? It is a tale of hypocrisy.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:38

Can you explain what actions the SPLC took before the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in an attempt to help law enforcement?

SPEAKER_11 1:00:50

Uh Congressman Adler, uh again, uh I must say that uh counsel will respond to all allegations in the You can't even say whether or not you helped law enforcement.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:04

Is it because you didn't? Is it because you needed this to be an extreme scenario that would interfere with Donald Trump's presidency or run for presidency? Is that it? Is that why you can't say? But who who was behind it? Who helped them, right? Who advised them? Who who did they work with in order um to get this done? Here, this is back in 2017 in Charlottesville, right? This is um let's watch this clip of Joe Biden talking about it. Now, it turns out that essentially, according to this indictment, that the Charlottesville riot was planned and funded by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Look at him. Just look at this guy.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:54

The whole thing was staged. Close your eyes. Remember what you saw on television. Remember seeing those neo Nazi on television, remember seeing those neo-Nazis and Klansmen and white supremacists coming out of fields with lighted torches. And remember what the president said when asked?

SPEAKER_15 1:02:11

And you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:20

He specifically said that. That they should be condemned totally. Specifically said that.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:29

No, he did not. He said he walked out and he said, let's get this straight. The veins bulging on their screen, as they were screaming. Remember, just close your eyes and picture what it was. Their veins bulging. Their veins bulging. Nazi sympathizers carrying Nazi fags. Veins bulging. Joe Biden.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:54

Use this as a major point of his campaign. Charlottesville, Charlottesville, Charlottesville. The left, Charlottesville, Charlottesville, Charlottesville. Was the whole thing staged for that purpose to give them a talking point?

SPEAKER_08 1:03:07

Just like all of the indictments, all of the felony counts. Alvin Bragg.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:22

The Atlanta joke. Who was behind this? So the SPLC got caught doing it. Who gave them the idea? Who in government worked with them? Who is promising them deals and cutting deals behind the scenes to do it from the Democratic Party? That's what I want to know. And that's where I hope that this continues. Right? I hope it doesn't end with this. I hope it doesn't end with um the fact that we're just uh going after the SPLC. I want to know who helped them. You know, how many of these PAC monies gave them money to do this sort of thing to interfere with the election? That's a crime. How many, how many of these NGOs would do did USAAID help? These are the questions that I have, because it doesn't end. Like the Southern Poverty Law Center didn't do this all on their own. It didn't do it all on their own. Here is a reading of the actual indictment.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:26

In total, according to the indictment, between 2014 and 2023, SPLC paid at least $3 million to eight individuals at least. These individuals were affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan, United Clans of America, National Socialist Movement, Aryan Nations affiliated Stadistic Souls Motorcycle Club, the Nationalist Socialist Party of America, Nazis, and the American Front. Now, as the indictment lays out, after SBLC paid members of these extremist groups, it created work product that reported on these activities that the members participated in or contributed to. And to that end, it was doing the exact opposite of what it's told its donors it was doing, not dismantling extremism, but funding it. To carry out this scheme, SPLC created bank accounts in the name of at least five completely fictitious organizations that had no bona fide employees or legitimate business purpose. The money was passed from SPLC to one sham account to a second sham account and then loaded onto prepaid cards to give to the members of the extremist groups. This was designed to shield the source of those funds. And because of this, SPLC is also charged with one count, as I said earlier, of conspiracy to commit money laundering. In conclusion, I want to thank the acting U.S. attorney in the Middle District of Alabama, Kevin Davidson, who is in his district right now and not able to be with us, for bringing this important case along with the FBI team in Alabama for their hard work during this investigation. This investigation is ongoing, and I'd like to ask uh Director Patel to say a few words as well.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:26

That's the indictment. Where does the rabbit hole end? We're gonna stay on top of this. I hope they uncover it all. And I hope I hope Donald Trump's this Donald Trump's presidency is the end of the Democratic Party. Because they have shown themselves to be sadistic, they have shown themselves to be conniving, manipulative, scam artists. Who accuse you of being just that? This is fraud at the highest level of our government. The Democratic Party is a level of our government. It has thousands of members. Hundreds of thousands of members, millions of members in the country, but tens of thousands of members in our federal government, hundreds of thousands of members in our federal government.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:20

And they're destroying it.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:30

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