Welcome to denim wrapped nightmares tipsy exchange Podcast where we explore the supernatural series episode by episode.
LA:over drinks, we'll discuss the lore of gore and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
Berly:I'm burly, and I'm a new fan of the series.
LA:I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy. Hello, la. Hello, Burleigh.
Berly:Last episode, Dean pressured Sam into visiting Cicero Indiana. So he could visit an old flame named Lisa, a yoga instructor who was very bendy, apparently. And he had had a hookup with over nine years ago or sorry, eight or nine years. Yeah. Whenever Dean gets there, we find out that Lisa has an eight year old son named Ben who is not demons. But they sure let us believe that he is for the vast majority of the episode. Yeah, they laid it on thick. Hmm. It was kind of a corny episode, but it was really cute. Yeah. Also turns out there's changelings that are killing all the husbands and ex husbands and replacing the children with baby changelings that are feeding on the mother's. And Sam and Dean save the day from the changelings. Also, Ruby makes it appearance at the end to be like I know about your mama, and you should trust me and Sam does for some reason.
LA:What does she tell him? She can help him?
Berly:Well, she claims that she can help get Dean out of his deal. Yeah, but she's a demon. Why are you gonna believe her?
LA:She's a demon.
Berly:Yeah,
LA:that's not the last we see of Ruby.
Berly:And at the end of the episode, The Kids Are All right.
LA:Let's see what you did there. Today, the episode we watch was called Bad Day at Black Rock,
Berly:which was a 1955 film where the main character went to a strange town called Black Rock, for some sort of business. And there's a bunch of mishaps that happen because of the mysterious townspeople who apparently have like a dark secret to keep. I don't know what the dark secret is. I've never seen the film. And I didn't Google anything beyond this little description. Well, no, I want to know. It's a 1955 film. I haven't seen movies from the 50s very often, kind of find it. Like a Turner Classic movie or something. Probably maybe. Google it.
LA:Yeah. Well, we start out in jail. We're in jail. And we see that it is our good buddy Gordon, our good buddy. He's such a good guy. But he has a visitor that has come to talk to him. We learned that his name is Kubrick. And they are talking yet again about Sam. I mean, Gordon just will not let up on the SAM stuff. He even mentions that he's not even sure Sam is human.
Berly:They each have their own stalker now. Like Dean has Hinrichsen and Sam has Gordon. So cute.
LA:Adorable. But Kubrick I guess has like checked them out. And he's like, you know, you're you're right. You know, he checks out. Gordon's just like basically saying like, no, Sam's got to go. Like, you need to take care of it. I can't I'm in here. I'm not even sure he's human. Yeah, I was like, okay, he's been a little dramatic.
Berly:He's pissed off. Yeah, he's in jail. And they're out there running around when they literally do the exact same thing as him. I mean, okay, so he tried to kill Sam like,
LA:get over it. Next, we are in the car and the boys are arguing about Ruby,
Berly:as they should. Mm hmm.
LA:What is wrong with me? They Sam is basically saying he wants to keep in touch with her check in like we we might need her help. And Dean is like hell no. Like she's a demon. What is wrong with you? Why would we do anything with her be involved with her at all? And Sam confesses that she mentioned that she could get Dean out of his Crossroads deal, however, helped get them out of the Crossroads deal. And still Dean is like, okay, like, no, he's still not on board. But it is what it is. While they're fighting, a phone starts ringing and they realize it's neither of theirs. And Dean mentions he he's been keeping dad's cell phone charged just in case anybody has old buddies call or colleagues, whatever. Sam answers it, and says that he's. He's like, Yes, this is Edgar Casey. I forget what else he says. He's chit chatting with him. He gets he writes down an address or something from him, gets off the phone and asks Dean if he knew of that dad had a storage unit outside of Buffalo and a place called Black Rock. Dean of course did not know
Berly:the thing he said was no don't call the cops. Right? Yeah, yeah. To the storage shed guy, and also when he said his name was Edgar Casey, I noticed Casey was spelled really uniquely see a Yce. So I googled it thinking it was going to be some rock musician that I hadn't heard of, or some guitarist or some drummer or something. And it was actually an old American clairvoyant. And then I remembered that John Winchester didn't always do the rock musicians like Sam and Dean do the pop, no more pop culture type things. He did different stuff. So I had to remember Oh, yeah, this was John's alias, not Sam's.
LA:Yeah. As the guys head out to the storage unit. We see Kubrick who's in like a camper van thing. Yeah, or whatever they're called RV. Yeah, an RV. And he's with his buddy. Creedy. And he's telling he's catching Creedy up on the fact that they're after Sam. I can't. I feel like doesn't he say he's not necessarily sure he agrees with Gordon.
Berly:Yeah. And he had a giant Jesus painting in the van. Yeah, he's Yeah. Which is as a seed for us to well, it's on the seed, a hint,
LA:kind of a kind of it. Yeah. For some for some later info. But so yeah, so we know that they are coming after Sam. And the guys ended up at the storage location. And they see that daddy had rigged it to where if somebody did break in, like he had like a shot gun or something, and they got shot and there was blood around so they knew that whoever did get get in there was shot.
Berly:There was a devil's trap, too. So they knew it wasn't a demon. Because whoever it was got away. So
LA:okay, well, the storage units a little bizarre, like it's it's a very big storage unit. There's a casket in there. All kinds of little tchotchkes and things. And like, Sam found his little soccer trophy. Yeah, childhood memorabilia. Yeah. And he was like, I can't believe Dec kept this. And that's when Dean said, Oh, that's probably the closest you ever came to being a boy. And I thought he meant like, I thought he was like, giving him a jab. Like he was girly. Yeah, like he was a girly kid or something. And then I was like, Oh, wait, no, he's talking about that was like the only time you were actually like, a little kid, like a little boy able. And then I was like, oh, then I felt really bad about but it was cute that he kept that and obviously saying it was cute, like, nice to see him. So they're looking around, try it and they they don't see that anything's like been stolen. Like there's guns around steal knives, all of his equipment still there. But Sam does notice that there's a bunch of boxes on the shelves with some sort of writing on it wording, wording, wording, wording,
Berly:wording?
LA:Is that what he said? That's what I'm saying? Okay. Well, anyway, the warning warning is he says, I
Berly:use that word a lot later. Really? Like later later. Okay. Well, there's a lot of warning to come. Okay.
LA:I'll keep an ear out. He mentions to Dean that these warnings are our curses. They're cursed boxes. One is missing from the very dusty shelf.
Berly:They're like protection spells to keep the curse in the box. Yeah. Or something. But yeah, it was dusty as hell.
LA:I Yeah.
Berly:I mean, who knows? When's the last time he's been there? Right. It was the thick layer of dust. But Sam, it was almost as thick as the layer of dust in the preachers office and faith. Oh, yeah. Not quite as thick though.
LA:The guys ended up how did they get the footage of the guys from?
Berly:Well, I'm assuming the guy who called Sam. Okay, but he probably was like, Do you have footage and they just showed it to him or they did their normal thing where they pretended they were the cops or whatever to get the security footage. They didn't actually show them look at the security footage. It just showed them pull up to their next destination and look at the car and be like, yeah, Connecticut license plate last three digits a zoom. And you should have blacked out your plates before you parked right in front of a camera. Like they said, you know, something like that to let us know how they got from point A to point B.
LA:Yeah. Well, and inside the two thieves, which didn't you look up their names Wayne and Grossman. Can't tell you which is which? Yeah, I don't remember but one of them is he was clearly shot in the shoulder. And the other one is like gunning to open the box. Like he really wants to open the box. He doesn't have opening it. Like a dumbass and all that's in it is rabbit's foot. So they're real disappointed.
Berly:And the guy with the shot and his shoulder picks it up. Yes, up the rabbits. Yes. So that's that's important because within the next few minutes, there's a knock at the door. And it's the sky who just happens to be an Army medic. He's straight up said says, Oh, this is your lucky day that I'm here and I can patch you up. Yeah, convenient. And they've definitely moved away from the bloody gauze bandages because that guy had gauze all over him and there was no blood.
LA:I was almost a little disappointed. You know, it's like
Berly:that should be a classic staple. Yeah, we should see massive amounts of blood coming through the gauze bandages from now on. The
LA:the boys Pick, pick the lock of where the thieves are, and come in. Dean's got the gun blazing, he's ready to fight him. And what proceeds in this room is very, it was all over the place.
Berly:I said when we were watching it. What what in the Three Stooges is going on here?
LA:Seriously, it was like, it was just like, bang, bang, boom, boom, like all over the place. And I'll let you describe it because you, you're gonna do a better job than me.
Berly:Okay, so they come in, and Dean's got his gun up. And the guy with the shoulder. The guy who's touched the rabbit's foot is who he's pointing his gun at. So when he pulls the trigger to shoot the guy his gun backfires. And the bullet like bounces around the room in this really chaotic way. That ends up knocking Dean on his ass Sam like trips, and falls. So the other guy, the not shoulder guy gets the best of Sam and his own tifosi. I'm like, choking Sam and Dean and the other guy or a Teslin. Then Sam happens to reach out and grab the discarded rabbit's foot. As soon as that happens. The guy that's fighting Dean like falls backwards over the couch and is immediately knocked out. Yeah. And then the guy that Sam is fighting with Sam ends up getting the better of him. And he goes flying back like way drastically and dramatically into this wall where these books fall down on top of him. And he gets knocked out too. And it's just like this huge kerfuffle of nonsense for like two men. Yeah. And it was really hard to follow because there was just so much action going on so much movement.
LA:It was, I don't know, I was just like, what is happening right now?
Berly:How did those guys get knocked out so easily? Right?
LA:Well, after since the two thieves are knocked out, the guys take off and we see them. They're sitting in front of like a diner or somewhere. And Dean comes in the car. He's really excited. And he's got a handful of lottery tickets, scratch offs. And he makes Dean or I'm sorry, he makes Sam, start scratching them off. Immediately. He wins $1,200 And Sam's like not into it. And he's just like, Oh, whatever. This is dumb. And he gets out and gives Bobby a call to like, tell them what happened. And Bobby is like, basically, that curse is like from Old World Magic. Like who do Priestess is the one that made that curse that particular curse or this one. And Bobby meant mentioned that he made those boxes for John to keep the curses in so he knows all about the stuff the storage shed and everything right? And not shed unit unit. Yeah. As Sam is on the phone with Bobby He just randomly there's a newspaper like sitting next to him on this ledge or whatever. And he just kind of moves it a little and lo and behold, there's a Rolex watch. Just shiny gold looking beautiful just sitting there. Because that happens every day. Bobby tells tells him like, just sit tight. You know, the problem is that whoever has the rabbit's foot has the best luck. But as soon as you lose it, you have the worst luck and your you pretty much die within a week. Yeah, sounds like I'm not going to lose it. And Bobby's like you. Everybody always loses. Like Bobby is pissed at them. And he tells them he's gonna make some calls. See what he can figure out? Like, hang tight, be safe. Don't lose the fucking rabbit's foot. Yeah, the guys go into the diner to have breakfast, whatever lunch, whatever they're doing. And they walk up to the host Stan, and the guy is very excited. And he's like, congratulations. And they whip out a thing, which I didn't think it was a check, but it definitely looked like the type of check but it just said like 1 million customer like not$1 million or anything like that.
Berly:Yeah, they definitely were like doing the whole Publishers Clearing House balloons and they were falling out of the ceilings. You know, that's the look they were going for. So it definitely looked like one of those giant checks. Yeah,
LA:but it basically meant that they were gonna get there. They were getting free food today. Dean was real excited.
Berly:Yeah, he was cheese and hard and the picture
LA:Dean's like really liking mooching off of all of Dean of Sam's Good luck. As they're sitting there. This very pretty lady with a very obvious looking wig comes over. And she is all over Sam. Like real close. And like you even mentioned like, it was odd because I didn't I didn't catch it. But you did. Yeah, just way in his personal space, which as soon as you mentioned it, Sam sitting there as she's walking away and he knocks over his coffee, and Dean's like what the fuck? Like, what just happened? So Sam stands up and I think he like kind of trips out of the booth. And then he really like he pulls out his pocket. Rabbit foot, rabbit's foot has gone. So this way, I mean, the bad luck starts right away. No joke. We see the waitress, she she hightails that out of the restaurant pulls the wig off. Long pretty hair, and I realized that it was the girl from The Walking Dead.
Berly:Yeah, I'm gonna Google it because I am pretty Yeah. Lauren Conrad. Yeah.
LA:And I always forget that she's British.
Berly:Not Lauren Conrad. Lauren ko Han. COVID.
LA:That's right. Yeah.
Berly:Lauren Conrad was from like the
LA:hills. But yeah, I always forget, she's British, because she's been on The Walking Dead for so long as like an American. And so it was weird. Like when she started talking, I was like, Oh, yeah. And then we see that Kubrick really didn't have to do much digging to find the guys because he sees online the picture from the diner that they posted of the boys with the check or whatever, and the balloons and everything. So he knows exactly where they are. His friend
Berly:was like, we need to go out to eat. I really want us to go to this chain restaurant, which it's bigger sins, which ends up being like a chain in the world of supernatural. Oh, and they're looking at the menu and then the guys like, oh, that's fine. What's the closest location to us? And that's when he was like, Oh my God.
LA:Oh, I didn't realize that. Yeah. But yeah, like good for good on Kubrick that this is like an easy peasy job for him. You know? And it gets like it continues to be easy for him. Yes, the guys end up calling Bob daddy Bobby again. Cuz you know, he's there. He's there. Northern Light. And poor Sam. Even as they're leaving the restaurant. Just eat shit out front. Yeah, bus that both was nice. He just continues to like be a mess. Yeah. After they leave the diner, they go back to the thieves apartment where they were. They are asked they're kind of interrogating the guy. Well, it's just one left. Which something happened to the other guy.
Berly:Right we shot shoulder shot shoulder guy who had the rabbit's foot initially, we saw he had a final destination death after Sam and Dean has left with rabbit's foot. Which just irritated because it's like he's walking through the kitchen he sees the beer bottle on the floor and like kicks it into the kitchen while he's talking to the other guy who's still on the ground. Then he walks into the kitchen steps over the beer bottle I'm like how lazy are you just pick up the fucking bottle. Why are you leaving that on the floor still. So I and then he like takes some dishes out of the sink. And he sticks one of those giant BBQ two pronged poker things in the dish rack.
LA:Which who sets it that way where like the prongs are straight up? You know, like I would lay it flat or like I mean, it was just a little too the same on the nose. The same
Berly:guy who just steps over a bottle. I mean, it was on the nose because as soon as he did that I went oh, he's gonna fall on the bottle. Oh, you drip onto the thing? Yeah, you called it. And that's exactly what happened. What I didn't expect. Yeah. Is that when he slipped on the bottle? He like fell backwards onto the thing and it went through the back of his head. And we're thinking like, okay, just stabbed him in the brain. And he's dead.
LA:Yeah, I was like, oh, like it cuts his spinal cord or whatever. But flashes back. Well, I think it shows us buddy sees them right? And then flashes back to him. And it's like, through his mouth.
Berly:All blood. Yeah. And the thought is just coming out of his mouth. Like it went straight through the back of his head and out his mouth. Terrible. Yeah.
LA:I don't know why we're laughing.
Berly:It was just it was we haven't seen that many graphic things other shows. So I think we both just felt like oh my god.
LA:Yeah, like Yeah, it was a little startling. But
Berly:so yeah, whatever Sam and Dean get there. It's just the one guy.
LA:He's like, he's sitting there. The cans like a picture of his buddy or something. And he's got a bottle of alcohol. He's like, here's Do you or something. Oh, that's a horse one out like right on the floor in front of them. I was like, You're just making a mess. You're just making
Berly:bigger mess. Yeah, you already had one friend who died because they weren't picking up after themselves. Goodness Get your
LA:shit together guys are so yeah, Sam and Dean ended up coming back and talking to the guy to interrogate him about the girl. They want to know who she is. You know, and I think it was a dean that gives him the guilt trip that you know, this rabbit's foot is going to keep going on and giving people bad luck and their people are going to die and those those deaths though they're gonna be on your head so you better help us. Sound if you don't want that on your conscience, so he ends up telling them that it was Bela Lugosi, which was actually that's like a actor. Well, yeah, no, but it's her alias. Because she's actually Bella Talbott that we find out because they call good old daddy body again. And tell him that it's Bela Lugosi. And he's like, Oh, that's Bella Talbott. And he, he gives them where I think he tells them where she's at where she lives and everything so that they can go after her. They figure it out somehow. Yeah. And after they get the information from Bobby. Well, before that, he's like, basically telling Dean like, you need to look after her brother, like watch out for him. Because, you know, now that he doesn't have the luck, it's going to be shipped for him. Dean just really listens to that and then proceeds to drop Sam off at a motel and leaves them alone. Tells him sit in this chair. Don't do anything. Don't even scratch your nose and takes off leaves him really good job on looking after him. Dean.
Berly:I thought it was funny that after he was like don't even scratch your nose that Sam immediately started like, yeah, it was like all he could think about was having an itchy nose as soon as he was told he couldn't do that. And when Dean was out of the room, the first thing he did was
LA:Oh, yeah. Dean takes off to go confront Bella. We see Bella and her nice ass pad. Yeah, real nice. She's doing well for herself. And you noticed with the rabbit's foot that she didn't actually ever touch it.
Berly:She was carrying with tongs around her flat. And at the restaurant, it showed that she had used this big blue tea towel to pickpocket it from Sam. And that's what she was carrying in it. So she hasn't actually touched it. So she's not going to be affected by the curse. Right? Yeah.
LA:Dean comes in surprises are and they have a little chit chat, whatever. As they got guns at each other, as like he distracts he distracts her with his talking or whatever. And by the time he's about ready to leave, he shows her he took the rabbits but he's got it now. So he's got the look. And of course, which is so dumb, she starts shooting at him even though she knows about it. And of course she misses every time. And he just like he just like can walk out casually as she's like shooting at him.
Berly:The other thing I noticed was her really fancy weed keyboard. Oh, that's right. It was wood and had like the white marble thingy.
LA:I feel like I call it a guide. But I don't think it's probably got a proper name. But yeah,
Berly:I don't know what it is. I remember asking you whatever it was on the screen being like, Oh, what do you think about that one? And you liked that one?
LA:Much better? Yeah. Thank you. I don't want a toy one. It was really cool. It was it was pretty. Yeah.
Berly:I liked it. Yeah.
LA:Yeah, her place was cool. But poor Sam back at the motel, we see him. He's just he's doing what his big bro told him. He's sitting there minding his own business. He didn't do anything. And the little air conditioning unit on the wall start smoking. It's easy to him. He's like, Oh, like, like, I didn't do anything. And he so he walks over to it. As soon as he walks up to it, it lights on fire. He grabs like the blanket off the bed, puts that fire out. And he's like, Oh my God looks over sees his his arm is now on fire. He grabs the curtains, puts the fire out on his arm but in the process, falls back pulls the curtain down, falls down and knocks knocked out.
Berly:Yeah. Slick the third inexplicable knockout of the episode. And it's not the law.
LA:No, no, no. But as he as he falls and takes the curtain down, we see Kubrick and Creedy just standing there. And they see like, Oh, he's not that like this is this isn't going to be hard at all there is. So then then we see them there inside the motel duct taping for Sam to a chair. And like I said Kubrick Scott. I mean, he probably really thought this was going to be like a real journey to Find Sam and get this taken care of. And it's been like easy peasy. As he's in there with him. He's kind of interrogating Sam, asking him about his like his abilities and everything. He's like, I know what Gordon told me like, you're, you're this you've got all this and it sounds like no, I don't have like since the demons or whatever were released. Yeah, I don't have any of my visions anymore. And all that and the guy of course, doesn't believe him. And he starts saying that he doesn't really think that it's Gordon. That sent him on this journey to get Sam. He thinks he's on a mission from God.
Berly:Yeah, he's seeing all of Sam's bad luck as signs from God who's helping him. Get to Sam, you take Sam down.
LA:That's why it's been so easy for Him. God's on his side. Yeah. Well, as they're doing that Dean shows up. And Dean is eatin up this look, he is he walks in and Kubrick's like Put the gun down and Dean's all Oh, this guy. This one. Okay, yeah. And he sets it on the little table and there's a pin there. He picks up the pen, just casually tosses it toward Kubrick and it just so happens to go right into the barrel of the gun. And Dean is so impressed with himself so happy. I think what is he is a Disney like say I'm awesome. I'm amazing. Yeah, yeah. And what happened?
Berly:He threw a TV remote. Oh, that's right Kubrick. And it knocks Kubrick out. Of course, he goes unconscious from a plastic television remote being thrown out. And then dean goes, I'm Batman. Yeah.
LA:And Sam is like, No, you're not No. What did they do? What happened to Creedy though?
Berly:I'm guessing he ran. Okay. Because at that point, it's two against one. Well, that's true. Yeah. And his friend just told them he's on a mission from
LA:Oh my god. We also learned that Kubrick before all that happened, Kubrick seems to think that Sam is in the know in on it with the demons and wants to know where they're going to hit Next. Which of course, Dean Dean dammit, Sam doesn't know. So after all that transpires the guys are, I think in a cemetery and they've got this little it's kind of like a really a fire. It's almost like a little pyre or something. And we hear them saying state Sam saying like something all the little salt and cayenne and something that Yeah, yeah, that they're putting into the fire to burn up the rabbit's foot to get rid of the curse or whatever. But, of course, Bella shows up gun gun up ready to go there to chat. And she's basically telling them like, she's, she needs a back. She's got a person she's selling it to. It's all planned like she's ready. And g ingeniously, Diem says Think fast, throws the rabbit foot at her and she catches it. And she's like, shit. Yeah. And which, good move on Dean's part. Yeah, like well done. And she ends up throwing it into the little fire thing that they have going because she knows how it goes. She doesn't want the bad luck. She doesn't want to die. But she proceeds to tell them about how much money they're making her lose in this deal that she had solid ready to go. She ends up taking off and the guys are like, well, we're good. You know, the curse is done. We're fine. And Dean's like but we still got our lotto tickets start to pack patent around and all his pockets. Of course it's gone. Bella took them which I was like, after seeing where she lives her car and then she's like taking off stealing their lotto tickets. I'm like, This bitch is doing well. First off, like, she knows those poor boys need that money.
Berly:They they $1.5 million. She was gonna sell the rabbit's foot for $1.5 million. Yeah, well, I understand her stealing that just out of spite that if she's not going to get her prize from the rabbit's foot, then neither of a
LA:Yeah. Bell is such a bitch. But after that, we see Kubrick is back in jail. When he's not in jail. He goes to visit Gordon in jail. And he tells Gordon about his mission from God that he went. And even Gordon's like, oh, hey Kubrick. Yeah. Okay. Once again, or and Kubrick explains he called he says that Jean is an ER, dammit, why am I getting their names wrong today?
Berly:You always want to talk about dating. That's why I know you do.
LA:But I love I love Jared.
Berly:I love them both. I know. I think I told you somebody. Somebody told me online that if we're not Jensen girls, or Jared girls, or Dean girls or Sam girls, and we love them both equally, that we're by bros. By bros. I'm like, I feel like she made that up. Yeah, because she knows for sure she listens to the show. So she knows we don't know anything that we're learning everything. And like she made that up so that we're gonna be like, we're bi bros. And people are gonna be like, What the fuck are you talking about? Okay, I just I don't know, she made it up. She was very sweet. Very sweet correspondence here. I'm not trying to throw her under the bus or anything. But I I honestly was questioning like, is this real? I haven't googled that yet. Because I'm honestly worried what kind of results I'm gonna get.
LA:Yeah. Well, we we should just we, we should come up with our own little name for it. But anyway, back to the episode at the end. Kubrick says that Sam is the adversary which we were like, I guess
Berly:we were trying to is that devil is that antichrist? Yeah, whatever.
LA:And Gordon is just like whatever Kubrick. The point is I've got to get out of here.
Berly:Out of here. You're Raizy get me out of here. Clearly you're not my guy
LA:to take care of, like I need to get out and do my business because as he dramatically says yet again, Sam Winchester must die. Yeah, and that's the episode,
Berly:which I don't know if I've said it already, so I'm gonna say it again just in case. Sam and Dean each have their own little stalker.
LA:Do you hear you did say to Hendrickson and Sam How's Gordon? Wins Hendrix I'm coming back as intense and awful as he is I like him
Berly:he's gonna come back Yeah. Has to Yeah, I really liked Bella in this episode because yes, Dean pointed out like Oh, so you know the truth you know everything and it just makes sense for a character like that to exist somebody who would know all these things know that magic is real and take advantage of that fact. Not trying to go out and kill monsters and save the world But use it to their advantage to get one it just makes sense for this character to exist so well fan so far.
LA:Me too. And I like I liked how like secure she is. It's not like she was going after them like wanting them and like being like, oh, like she's legit on her own. She's taking care of business. She's solid secure. She's Second Lady. Yeah, you know,
Berly:the boss bit. Yes. So I like her. Me too. I've already come into the door stuff. So I'll just keep going. The other thing I adored about this episode, which I didn't adore at first, when we were at the beginning of episode, I was like, it's kind of cheesy like these episodes have been kind of cheesy. I don't know. Like, we know that they're going to try and change it up every season. And I guess for this season, they're leaning more into camp. But by the end of the episode, I was getting a hoot out of the camp. like by the time like the fifth person just inexplicably got knocked out. I was laughing and having a good time. Yeah. So I ended up liking the campiness by the end.
LA:Well, you know, I'm very particular about my count. Yeah, I did a was it same thing. I was like, at first. I was like, What? What is happening? But then it was like, it was funny. Yeah. Like, I think even at the end, I forgot what I said. But I was I knew I was like, it was cute, like, Oh, I think I said it was kooky. Yeah. Which it
Berly:makes sense that it was a little kooky, because it was actually written by Ben Edlund, who also wrote Simon said, he was the one that we got to know a little bit more about and special features where he was talking about that crazy story and that involve twins. And they were like, Yeah, we like the twins thing.
LA:Yeah. That's all we like. We
Berly:need to change everything else, my dear. I remember that. So Ben Edlund wrote this episode, and it was also directed by Robert singer who has directed I think he's directed more episodes than any other director on Supernatural. Oh, wow. Well, and what is
LA:Bobby's last name? Singer, singer, because I was watching boys this week. And I like I saw his character on boys. Just Robert.
Berly:Yeah, I
LA:was like, I was like, isn't that Bobby's love? Yeah. So I thought that was
Berly:interesting. He was named after Robert singer, because you might remember that he was kind of an impromptu character. It was originally supposed to be Loretta Devine character, Missouri. And that's her who came and helped the boys at the end of season one. They had to come up with something else, right. It was like scheduling with her. She couldn't Yeah, or they came up with Rob with Bobby's character instead. And they just, they just took Robert singer's name and just gave it to the character. I love
LA:it because you imagine Bobby and Missouri together helping boys. I would love that. That would be good. Because, you know, they like they treat them like the kids. You know, like, yeah, Egypt and she was like always given them shit. Like, I would love that. Don't
Berly:you put your feet up on that tape me thinking about it. Speaking of Egypt, this episode is the first time that Bobby uses EGit. And he will use that word frequently in the future.
LA:Okay. I like in the subtitles, it still spelled it out as idiot. Said it. Just.
Berly:I noticed that too. I was like, that's not what he said. Gore. It was the fork. Oh my god. That was the only thing
LA:I still can't believe that like, because of the way they showed it. You're like, oh, right into the back of his neck. The next thing is like, oh, oh, no. It went all the way through. Yeah.
Berly:It was it was unexpected. It was unexpected, for sure.
LA:But it's so funny because like you called it and that's what happened but not the way we thought.
Berly:Oh, all right, so more according to a dash z animals.com. The lucky rabbit's foot has a strange but true history. In 1584 people carried a rabbit's foot to spare themselves from arthritis and cramping
LA:was like a copper bracelets they have.
Berly:It says nobody is sure why this was a popular thought. But we can piece together some of the later details to form a cohesive history of the strange but true Story of the lucky rabbit's foot. It's formed today isn't merely a superficial token of childhood, but rather the result of a complex intertwining of folk traditions from widely varying avenues. The rabbit's foot has nothing to do with the Christian holiday of Easter, despite popular belief, which I never, I
LA:never would have been to it. Yeah, that's weird. Never put those
Berly:things together. So I don't know what this popular belief is. Today's rabbit foot is not a solely American phenomenon. The popularization has carried through large swathes of the world, and most people see them now as a simple reminder to keep standing strong, so you'll have good luck.
LA:That's all I need to do.
Berly:Yeah, wow, strong man. Okay, so what is the strange but true history of the lucky rabbit's foot? It's the opposite of lucky. Which makes it lucky. Hmm. I'm just reading the article, man. I don't know. I don't know what the sense may say. All right. So first, we're going to start with the Middle Ages. Any man that was hanged was dubbed the hand of glory during the Middle Ages. When executions in the street were popular, the victims corpses would hang in the streets to deter others from committing crimes. A practice between these corpses and the population was that their left hands would be cut off and pickled for luck related to supernatural phenomena. Disgusting. Which why would the left hand of a criminal bring you good luck?
LA:Why would you pickle hand? Oh, maybe
Berly:it was the pickling. That was good luck.
LA:Gross.
Berly:This belief may have paved the way for the development of the rabbit's foot in lore. Gruesome actions remain associated with the rabbit's foot throughout the rest of its history. And the history of the rabbit as a representation of evil was popular in the Middle Ages. It was seen as both the hard path to finding salvation as well as seen as a symbol of lust because of the rabbits breeding habits. That whole
LA:thing that doing it like bunnies or whatever. Yeah, number one it's springtime and and they're out and about I see them all.
Berly:These beliefs stem from the uncleanliness of the rabbit in the Old Testament, which I wouldn't I don't know anything about. That doesn't mean that the rabbit was always seen as evil entails and paintings about Jesus, he is often depicted as surrounded by white rabbits. These white rabbits symbolizes purity and innocence, which is quite opposite of the Old Testament interpretation. Hmm. So it's like, are they whores? Or are they pure and innocent? Little baby little baby baby muddy. So next up, we've got the history of witchcraft and the rabbit's foot. A few centuries ago, rabbits were thought to be shapeshifting witches. A means of finding witches were associated with the rabbit's foot, which made it a lucky kill if it happened to be a witch in disguise. So like, you see a rabbit kill it just in case it's a witch.
LA:Oh, great. That's nice. Rabbits.
Berly:In the early 1800s Witches were believed to take the form of a rabbit. So rabbits were killed so their feet could be used as talismans or objects with magical powers. They died in a way that suitable for a supernatural being. There's no details at the end. That's the end of the paragraph. I don't know what that means.
LA:Okay, it's easy for you to interpret.
Berly:Others wanted the rabbit's foot to be cut off while the rabbit was alive. Oh, come on. This is so that any witch they caught would also have that injury in real life, which would make them more identifiable. Hmm. You know, logical Yeah. In the 1930s people chased animals around purposely to injure them if they thought there was a witch in town. In hunting animals like rabbits and cats, they thought they were doing a service to their community.
LA:Where are they, though?
Berly:In Wales, it was believed sometime in the late 1800s to early 1900s that shooting a rabbit with a silver bullet would make a witch die wherever they were. tales like this are also recorded in America around this time. Next up, we've got black history and Rabbit's feet. enslaved African Americans saw Rabbit's feet as an embodiment of cleverness, though that cleverness could be good or evil. It was modeled after a popular folk tale that involved a conniving, yet powerful rabbit. Due to the injustices that enslaved Americans and their freed descendants endured, the idea of cleverness cunning, and superiority in the face of oppressive forces was a powerful message. The point of the rabbit's foot was not to bring general look, but was specifically meant to bring luck and defending yourself against a subversive, a subversive American culture. In the 1880s, rabbit charms were being sold across the block sections of New Orleans. They had a ritual attached to them that made the charms special, which involved the moon, how the rabbit was dispatched, by whom, and making sure it was the left. But the concept of ritual around a rabbit's foot was also marketed to Europeans. So this is probably what Bobby was talking about with the hoodoo priestess and all of that.
LA:I was I was thinking about that, because you were saying like, it's all like overseas and whatnot. I was like, What about here? The folklore?
Berly:Well, that would be more black history.
LA:Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, that makes sense. Yeah. Around 1908 Rabbit's
Berly:feet were a common product in England from America. It was a popular custom in America to both black and white cultures. Though there isn't much written down about that. I'll tell you what, white people seeing black people doing something and deciding it was cool and decided they were going to do it too. I know Oh, my God, I've never heard of this. There are folktales that have been written down that show that it was commonly believed by communities that the rabbit's foot would bring good luck and money. There was a postcard in America from 1909 with Lucky objects on it. One of those objects was a rabbit's foot, as well as a horseshoe and a wishbone. In 1932, carrying Rabbit's feet was a common occurrence in England among all classes. While it was widely accepted as an amusing object, the idea that a rabbit's foot could convey anything deep became lost to consumers. So it's odd that it's saying that there's history in the Middle Ages with witches and all of that kind of stuff. And then it became so popular in America that it became an export back to Europe. Yeah. Hmm. It's weird. Anyway, last section is my lucky rabbit's foot real chances are any lucky rabbit's foot purchase recently is not real. It may feel like there are bones buried in fur. But that's just a cleverly disguised private that cleverly decided that cleverly designed product meant for mass consumption. You most likely have fake fur around either a piece of latex or leather.
LA:That makes me feel good. Like I was really concerned that all these bunnies were dying for these bunny feet. But I'm happy to know they're fake. Yeah, not
Berly:not these days. Yeah.
LA:I mean, who knew bunnies were so complex. rabbits. Rabbits bunnies. Me either. I just thought they were real fucking cute. To close things out with a quote. The boys were leaving the thieves apartment. And Dean is on the phone with Bobby. Sam steps in a giant piece of gum. And proceeds to go Yeah, proceeds to go over to a grate in the ground that has the perfect size hole just for his big ol foot. And he's trying to scrape it off. Shoe drops in and as Dean gets off the phone he turns around. Sam's was like, shoulder sunk like his arms just hanging by his side. Do you like what Sam says?
Berly:I lost my shoe. Shares Thank you for listening to denim wrapped nightmares.
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