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And"},{"speaker":"Shruti Jain","startTime":1518.93,"endTime":1521.84,"body":"hopefully we'll have a third,"},{"speaker":"Shruti Jain","startTime":1521.84,"endTime":1523.58,"body":"fourth and fifth season as well."},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1523.85,"endTime":1526.52,"body":"Awesome. Well,"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1523.85,"endTime":1526.52,"body":"Trudy in law, thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1526.55,"endTime":1530.36,"body":"for being here and agreeing, and"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1526.55,"endTime":1530.36,"body":"I should say Shruti Welcome back"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1530.36,"endTime":1535.37,"body":"to the podcast. And it's great"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1530.36,"endTime":1535.37,"body":"to see you as a former host i"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1535.61,"endTime":1540.02,"body":"It's kind of podcast inception."},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1535.61,"endTime":1540.02,"body":"It's a podcast about a podcast."},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1540.23,"endTime":1544.4,"body":"And sooner or later, we can just"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1540.23,"endTime":1544.4,"body":"continue this. This entire"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1544.4,"endTime":1548.12,"body":"atmosphere of podcasts"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1544.4,"endTime":1548.12,"body":"interviewing each other in the"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1548.12,"endTime":1550.52,"body":"future. So thank you so much,"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1548.12,"endTime":1550.52,"body":"both of you for being here."},{"speaker":"Shruti Jain","startTime":1550.88,"endTime":1554.15,"body":"Thank you so much,"},{"speaker":"Shruti Jain","startTime":1550.88,"endTime":1554.15,"body":"Josh. Thank you. This is surreal"},{"speaker":"Shruti Jain","startTime":1554.15,"endTime":1558.38,"body":"for me due to from being on that"},{"speaker":"Shruti Jain","startTime":1554.15,"endTime":1558.38,"body":"side of confluence to this side."},{"speaker":"Shruti Jain","startTime":1558.38,"endTime":1560.66,"body":"It's actually Surya thank you"},{"speaker":"Shruti Jain","startTime":1558.38,"endTime":1560.66,"body":"all"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1560.66,"endTime":1563.06,"body":"for listening."},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1560.66,"endTime":1563.06,"body":"If you'd like to know more about"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1563.06,"endTime":1566.45,"body":"Shruti and laws amazing project,"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1563.06,"endTime":1566.45,"body":"you can listen to immigrants"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1566.45,"endTime":1569.84,"body":"wake America, wherever podcasts"},{"speaker":"Joshua Kluever","startTime":1566.45,"endTime":1569.84,"body":"are found. 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