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Maggie interviews Michael and Karma Glos of Kingbird Farm about why they use horse power in their organic market garden, the eras of horses on their farm (including their love for Fjords), marketing horsepower to the public (or not), the economics of draft power, and raising their child around animals. Join us at their kitchen table for this laugh-filled conversation (and please pardon their pet birds chirping in the background). Find out more about Michael and Karma and their farm and products at https://kingbirdfarm.com/.