Join Maggie and Jared in a conversation with Taylor Van Zyl, a professional carriage driver, horse trainer and trader, rodeo cowgirl and all-round horsewoman in Arizona. She travels up and down the West with eight Percherons, doing public and private events and rodeos. She tells us stories of flipping Gypsy Vanners, taking her carriage business to Hawaii, training all her horses to be ridden by a person wearing a giant inflatable unicorn suit, and she dispels rumors about Scotch shoes. Her thoughts on the differences between riding and driving, and how to create a horse that can go anywhere and do anything, are especially interesting. 

Check out Ride and Ridden Wine, which featured her on a wine bottle, at https://rideandridden.com.