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Second of all,"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2774.82,"endTime":2779.38,"body":"you called the embassy. Yeah, no"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2774.82,"endTime":2779.38,"body":"one does that. They should Mr."},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2780.85,"endTime":2783.85,"body":"fun a lot, but it's great. I"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2780.85,"endTime":2783.85,"body":"love it. I love that you do"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2783.85,"endTime":2784.12,"body":"that."},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2784.15,"endTime":2786.73,"body":"Yeah. So she told"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2784.15,"endTime":2786.73,"body":"me three socks. So I bought"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2786.73,"endTime":2790.45,"body":"socks. Dude. I'm telling you. I"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2786.73,"endTime":2790.45,"body":"bought Nike socks. 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They're all"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2800.47,"endTime":2802.48,"body":"wearing sandals, or they're"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2800.47,"endTime":2802.48,"body":"wearing shoes that they slip"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2802.48,"endTime":2805.6,"body":"their feet into. And they just"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2802.48,"endTime":2805.6,"body":"don't get the experience socks"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2805.6,"endTime":2810.19,"body":"really expensive to buy socks"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2805.6,"endTime":2810.19,"body":"for them for people. So I go"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2810.19,"endTime":2815.05,"body":"over there, and I have a bag,"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2810.19,"endTime":2815.05,"body":"like a duffel bag of socks."},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2815.56,"endTime":2817.54,"body":"Right? And my wife thinks I'm"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2815.56,"endTime":2817.54,"body":"crazy, right? She's like, What"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2817.54,"endTime":2821.29,"body":"do I have this duffel bag over"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2817.54,"endTime":2821.29,"body":"my shoulders. And I'm walking"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2821.29,"endTime":2825.82,"body":"through the streets of Mombasa"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2821.29,"endTime":2825.82,"body":"in Kenya. And young man comes up"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2825.82,"endTime":2828.19,"body":"to me and he says he speaks"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2825.82,"endTime":2828.19,"body":"pretty good English. He says,"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2828.46,"endTime":2830.59,"body":"Would you like me to take you on"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2828.46,"endTime":2830.59,"body":"a tour? 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And he's"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2860.71,"endTime":2861.91,"body":"with me for the rest of the day."},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2862.27,"endTime":2863.62,"body":"Oh my goodness."},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2862.27,"endTime":2863.62,"body":"Right."},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2863.62,"endTime":2868.27,"body":"We went"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2863.62,"endTime":2868.27,"body":"everywhere. He takes us he's"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2868.27,"endTime":2870.34,"body":"taking some back corner."},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2868.27,"endTime":2870.34,"body":"Whatever. My wife's like, I"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2870.34,"endTime":2873.91,"body":"don't like this. I said Relax,"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2870.34,"endTime":2873.91,"body":"guys. Okay, he's got it sucks."},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2874.15,"endTime":2875.5,"body":"She goes, No, he now knows you"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2874.15,"endTime":2875.5,"body":"have."},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2875.89,"endTime":2878.83,"body":"Yeah, yeah."},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2875.89,"endTime":2878.83,"body":"You're carrying the bag. You got"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2878.83,"endTime":2879.19,"body":"the bag"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2879.22,"endTime":2881.23,"body":"on the side? Because we"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2879.22,"endTime":2881.23,"body":"could take a little payday."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2881.26,"endTime":2883.69,"body":"Yeah. It'll be it'll be okay."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2881.26,"endTime":2883.69,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2883.72,"endTime":2886.03,"body":"See right there."},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2883.72,"endTime":2886.03,"body":"Yeah. Oh, I want to pause on"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2886.03,"endTime":2890.89,"body":"that. Because I think every"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2886.03,"endTime":2890.89,"body":"reasonable rational person would"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2890.89,"endTime":2894.28,"body":"have the reaction that your wife"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2890.89,"endTime":2894.28,"body":"would have. Yeah, you're like,"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2894.31,"endTime":2897.64,"body":"Nah, Relax, baby. Yeah. Because"},{"speaker":"Dave Crenshaw","startTime":2894.31,"endTime":2897.64,"body":"I can take care of myself. 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So yeah, that's"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2914.44,"endTime":2916.87,"body":"just one story. I'll tell you"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2914.44,"endTime":2916.87,"body":"another story that my buddy,"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2916.9,"endTime":2920.95,"body":"we're going to Fiji, we're going"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2916.9,"endTime":2920.95,"body":"to do a dive boat. So I land in"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2920.95,"endTime":2924.13,"body":"Fiji. And I forget the name of"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2920.95,"endTime":2924.13,"body":"the main town, the main city"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2924.13,"endTime":2927.19,"body":"there, whatever it is. 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So you're telling me if I"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2938.2,"endTime":2942.46,"body":"buy a pig and give it to the"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2942.46,"endTime":2945.55,"body":"chief? That's a good thing."},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2942.46,"endTime":2945.55,"body":"Because they have chiefs there."},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2945.55,"endTime":2947.38,"body":"Right? And they have medicine,"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2945.55,"endTime":2947.38,"body":"because ultimate was trying to"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2947.38,"endTime":2949.96,"body":"find a medicine man. So I was"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2947.38,"endTime":2949.96,"body":"going right? 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And it They bring it, you"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":2998.05,"endTime":3002.13,"body":"know, got to come to the pier,"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":3002.46,"endTime":3005.7,"body":"and everybody that's going to be"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":3002.46,"endTime":3005.7,"body":"on that boat and I only know"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":3005.7,"endTime":3008.34,"body":"three people are going to be on"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":3005.7,"endTime":3008.34,"body":"that boat. Everybody else is"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":3008.34,"endTime":3010.68,"body":"sitting there seeing this dude,"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":3008.34,"endTime":3010.68,"body":"try to bring this peg on this"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":3010.68,"endTime":3013.5,"body":"boat. Well, everybody's going"},{"speaker":"David Winford","startTime":3010.68,"endTime":3013.5,"body":"crazy, right? 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