According To Wes

Don't Get Pwned At Your 9-5 Ft. DeLaw

July 05, 2023 Wes/DeLaw Episode 5
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There are so many ways it can happen, don't let your choices make you a casualty! 

Wes:

hard They could be, they could get money, they fucking apartment, pay for gifts in there and they still want more. I'm gonna tell you like this That was me, young man and something, and some let's just say I'm 20, and some 40, 45, 50 years decided, like you know what I want, to make sure you want to college, paying this, this and this, blah, blah, blah, bring that good deck over whenever I ask. So let's just say I'm 19 and blah, blah, blah, blah. We think I'm messing that up. Yeah, no, no, no, we think I'm gonna come to her hut. We think I'm gonna come to her man as a man. No, no, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the According to West podcast. As always, got D-Vo, yep.

DeLaw:

I'm here right now in the whole quiet storm voice though.

Wes:

Emma, i'm drinking. This is the. I drink wine off of our coffee.

DeLaw:

You would like hello everybody. Welcome to the According to West podcast.

Wes:

I'm a what Pineapple Sangria. Really, that's what's going on.

DeLaw:

You off your Rico swabi on a pineapple.

Wes:

sangria Needs something to wash down his chicken with. There's a leftover chicken in the refrigerator called water. Nah, i got that too Right here.

DeLaw:

Don't worry, I did the same thing.

Wes:

I drunk vodka. Exactly, not a bad thing to wash down your food with a little back off, so right.

DeLaw:

You see the memes I've been sending you.

Wes:

I'm not the ones. today You be sending them off. Fuck is about a about a boat.

DeLaw:

Nothing about a boat, because somebody that sent me one and I'd be like let me not send that same one, because everybody probably saw it. Then I just kind of looked through and I'm like, oh, this looks cool and I'll send it. So anything, i send this to you because it's like all right, it's funny, and then you might get some inspiration from it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, but that's why I send, that's why you get so many.

Wes:

That's why I get so many. Nah, i'm not on social media, but I'm not So when I get them. When I get them, i need to figure out a lighting situation When I get them you know, most of my shit about my feed, depending on which YouTube now YouTube, depending on what's a account I'm using. Right, most of my shit is cars, cars, yeah, cars, cats, dogs, shoes.

DeLaw:

Yeah, i do a lot of well, some wrestling ones. I do wrestling and then like not even seven Campbell type, seven, not seven. Kevin said seven, seven, seven, not even seven, we'll talk shit. Not even a kid. None of that, but like it beats some shit like oh yeah, men think about this, women think about shit like that, and that's how I kind of I kind of figure it out from there.

Wes:

Yeah, that's what's on my YouTube feed. There's not all that fresh and fit shit. I don't know how that happened. Somehow they got thrown in that bitch and World War Empire stuff and I like World War Empire. I don't know if you've seen that series. No, i've never seen it. But yeah, it's a dope series, but the fresh and fit shit. I don't need no more of this shit. I already lived that life. Oh, you know what's on the world? right, you've seen their stuff?

DeLaw:

No, Yeah, man, what you been up to this week Nothing, Not much. Come on, man, i know you've been up to some Sure no, same old, same old, same old, same old. Yeah, good, like you saw, you got like the most boringest technology life ever.

Wes:

Uh, if I try to explain this shit, that be going on, that be having me waking up in cold sweats. Uh, wouldn't understand.

DeLaw:

That be the whole episode Huh, that be the whole episode.

Wes:

Yeah, but it was. You still wouldn't understand it. I'll just be saying shit.

DeLaw:

Hey look, we did a whole blurred episode. I might I understand a little bit of it, just not a lot of it.

Wes:

All right, so I'm gonna leave into the topic. So long story short. uh, this week I have been getting um tasks to do for my supervisor and my director, so I have a whole soup. the hierarchy in this is supervisor, manager, director, director skipping the fucking manager, wait what? And skipping the supervisor And sometimes the shit is coming directly to me and I'm like they can do that. No, they're not supposed to out of professional courtesy, but wow, Do whatever the fuck they want to do when they feel like they can do it.

DeLaw:

I think the only person that can make a direct order straight to me is um. is that's about it?

Wes:

You have to loop that out, but all that.

DeLaw:

He's the only one that can make a direct order to me, because he, you know, he's not uh, I mean, or secretary for my department, but um yeah, i'm lost.

Wes:

What So you don't have a?

DeLaw:

supervisor. I have a supervisor, but ever than my supervisor there's only two other people that can like send a direct order straight to me that I would have to do. Gotcha, You know what I'm saying? Anyone else has this set like. Even my boss's direct boss hasn't sent it to my boss.

DeLaw:

But if it comes down from my boss's boss's boss, then it's like he's like hey look, d-law needs to come drive me around all around the state of Maryland, right, and I have no, there's no questions asked. Just, you just go and do it and you don't. Even So, oh, okay, cool, it doesn't matter. If you got something to do that day, you just tell him chief told me to do this and that's it, gotcha. And then, if it comes from the secretary, the chief sends it to you, like a secretary wants you to do drive him around Maryland, listen to Spanish music, and then that's what you do. That's what you do, ain't? no, uh, yeah, but inside of, like our floor, my boss's boss can't send me nothing directly unless it goes to him first, and then he'll filter it down to me. You better stand your ground, man. Equality.

Wes:

No, it's not even. what is the yo uh? so some of the stuff I ain't really standing in my ground is more or less like. I go back to my supervisor, i'm like yo uh, so I'm so told me to do this, alright, i'll handle it, mind you also my supervisor's my age, huh, oh, so it's a lot of I'm in the weird. I think I thought about this already. I'm gonna.

DeLaw:

I don't even think that you guys that your supervisor thinks they're a supervisor because they're one of the angles.

Wes:

You kind of get what I'm saying, yeah, a little weird. And then my manager is probably like he could retire at any day if he chooses to. But he's playing that role of you know, i'm gonna hit, sit here, collect these checks and these meetings and I'm gonna delegate. And he's not ashamed to say I will be delegated Right, i've seen that happen before.

DeLaw:

Whereas, like because the how do you put it? So because the, the, the boss is boss, is so old, but your, your boss, is not that old yet. They just kind of take it as it is and don't question it because they're like oh well, they still look at them like they're the adult, not realizing they're still an adult.

Wes:

Yeah, i get that.

DeLaw:

Because I've had that happen where it's like I was like, oh yeah, wait a minute, i'm 30 something years old, but you like, why am I taking orders from this person? because they older, like I have the like sometimes remind myself of shit like that.

Wes:

Thank you, i don't even think it's that. I mean, i don't think it's that It's not even that to a degree.

Wes:

It's more or less like it's just more or less. There's a little situation going on between my director and my supervisor. I'm being used as a pawn and I know I am by my director to a degree. Uh, i'm a supervisor just trying to fight the battle, but at the same time, since that's my supervisor, i'm trying to help him fight his battle by also staying neutral. What? It's not really a thing of me picking sides. It's more or less like we just doing your job.

Wes:

Yeah, leave me alone, because that's something to do with job, not, it's ain't a me thing, right, it's never been a me thing. It's a yaw thing Like my, my director, having them doing arbitrary tasks for no reason and shit like that. Sorry, oh man, but my soup is being a good team sport about it, because it could be one of those things when he, if he didn't recognize it was, all you know, a dead mission or whatever he can send you on a dead mission, just because just to say he got it done rather than leave out this is a dead mission. I ain't trying to do this shit. I definitely appreciate that aspect of it. But yeah, man, that's just been going on all fucking all.

DeLaw:

So you sound like you're going through like the most diplomatic battle ever.

Wes:

No, I'm uh, i'm hiding in trenches. I'm not. I'm not in that battle. I am uh. I'm just waiting for the aliens to return.

DeLaw:

God damn alien, come on Waiting for the aliens. You know damn aliens anyway, say that You say that and if there is, I don't want to know if there is, i do want to know. Uh-uh.

Wes:

I just hope they not the uh, we want to enslave the planets like aliens. You know what I mean.

DeLaw:

Pretty much. You don't want to be in signs where everybody just starts dying and getting killed in all in one day. Signs, double some signs.

Wes:

Yeah, it was aliens that sign You don't remember? No, I remember signs. I just don't remember people dying in one day.

DeLaw:

Well, they didn't show nobody dying. They didn't show nobody dying, but they were. You know, it was like, because it was based on this, those four people, you know they. So it was like Without. well, i guess, for people, i guess that this where everybody seen the damn movie, but it was like, oh yeah, this book told the whole future of everything. Yes, so you remember, the little girl was reading all the stuff that happened out of a book and they were reading it and, oh, did she draw the pictures.

Wes:

I don't remember. I just remember Well over they What was boys? and it's gonna have some bullshit like that.

DeLaw:

I think it was actually. Maybe it was drawing picture.

Wes:

I want to say it was a.

DeLaw:

I want to say is a book, but the same. This is, i want to say. She drew the pictures, but nonetheless, they saw some illustrations That were that resemble them And about everything I was supposed to happen and how they were going to be hot as they could possibly be hostile and And they could do this and like the Sun was always like they could do this and they could do this, and they put the Little little foil helmets. So you remember the shit. They implied that people died during the invasion, that they had that that night.

Wes:

So Yeah, i remember signs man, a decent movie. When I seen it I thought it was a decent movie.

DeLaw:

It was a really good movie and then, when I talk about it in some of the home.

Wes:

They like the movie. Try.

DeLaw:

I thought it was good. It was one of. It was like the last of the good in my shaman alone movies You never been put in the middle of a situation like that, like work situation.

DeLaw:

No, not really. I've been fortunate to have the higher hierarchy of everything Just always follow what it was supposed to do. So it's like They've always made it very clear You only take orders from this person, you don't take it from anyone else. So if someone gave me orders and That wasn't supposed to, you just don't do it. Or it depends on who came from I put that way It really panel who came up. So like when I was at McDonald's, i'm I'm not supposed to take orders from other associates, but The store manager comes in if he says I need you to do this, or like he told me wanted to get his dry cleaning What? and I was like what he's like my dry cleaning out and I just looked at him like are you fucking serious? Because it was one of things that was like I know you bullshit, like there's no way.

Wes:

I'm working KFC anytime. I got a task like that man best believe I took my sweet ass time, so I'm like I'm getting paid not to stand up for fucking four hours straight. Yeah.

DeLaw:

I was one of those things where he like He did it at the local place, so I had to walk there.

Wes:

It was development.

DeLaw:

So you know my as I asked myself well, look, if I do this, can I get a hundred. He's like sure, can I get paid back in interest? I was like damn, no, i asked her for. The funny part was I asked her for a dub. He said all I got is hundreds. I Was like you're still owner, why would you have anything less?

Wes:

Yeah, Yeah, yeah, that's that I. Would you have anything less? he was done on you.

DeLaw:

And I was definitely young, he was always like.

Wes:

You know what I too.

DeLaw:

For some reason I was just checking my volume it won't go up any higher than 35. You mean, i don't know. That's a good question. You know, i did also didn't reset my computer today either. I'd like I's been running all week this on the you know 35. Yeah well, you know, not on 35, but like How do you put it? so is I haven't turned it off, so it's just been running, so that when I get home to like tutor, i'm kind of worried about it. Just turn it on, keep it rocking, or maybe this is like the new thing where it's Like not doing what it's supposed to do. I got to reset it and I probably should have reset it and I just didn't. So I was like, alright, that's what you said. I was like, hey, i want to go past 35 because I can hear you, but you're like love, that's why you got to quiet store boys on, not don't.

Wes:

He's got the whole Talking regular.

DeLaw:

Oh, all right, Well, it went up to 47. Oh, when up a little bit higher 55, need you go higher than 55.? Oh, 61, all right, look we almost there.

Wes:

I.

DeLaw:

Ain't Starting to see that. I'm just have to use the business money once. I get like 10 grand and then it's good. By the way, You know.

Wes:

So you're gonna spend 10, a whole 10 racks on the computer.

DeLaw:

I'm gonna spend a thousand on, but I need to relax so I can feel comfortable doing it. You know, i'm saying Like I want to be able to justify it.

Wes:

I mean You've been justified any way. You justify it No.

DeLaw:

I want to be able to justify. Justify like Yeah, i got 10 racks out here, who's shock a locker? Oh, that's how you want to justify like do you want to finance to us? Take this, like it in my ditty voice.

Wes:

Take this Sexual harassment at the local buzz by. Take this He meant the money, but she thought he meant a dick. Oh, you want that problem.

DeLaw:

Right, I really don't want them type of problem, but you know it'll be worse. I could, I could.

Wes:

I just have problems but So this job shit, it was made me think of. it was made me think about being in the middle of shit and trying to get yourself out of it, or just the annoyance of it all And I don't know. I mean I haven't been thinking about this one time when I was I'm not gonna say I was dating two girls at the same time. I wanna say that it was a crazy thing. I wanna say I was fucking one but interested in the other, but the one that I was fucking knew that I was interested in another girl while I was at work.

DeLaw:

They see pride and even care. She's getting her jollies off.

Wes:

No, she cared too much. I'm stuck and she didn't like the girl And they didn't even know She knew the girl That we all worked together. That was my dumb ass. You were sitting there, you were eating that Not really because I wasn't.

Wes:

No, not really. Yes, you were. It was kinda like nope, let me tell you how I haven't. All right, I didn't propose this. It was just one of those things where I showed up, showed up to show the house and get my hair done. One thing led to another, boom, Kinda likes what I was putting down, That's what it was. We also worked together, but it wasn't like I was. That's my girl, I just and she had a boyfriend, Right, This is young me. So she liked what I was putting down and shit like that. However, I'm like interested, interested in this one girl. I'm liking what she, she's liking what I put down and I go with it for that. But I'm interested in another girl that we actually work with, Right, So I'll be talking to her and flirting with her and we had the same shifts and shit like that. But sometimes she'll I'll get, I'll get put in the middle of I don't like that bitch or this, this, and that she don't know why she don't like her, or she'll mention one girl, she really doesn't like her.

DeLaw:

I don't even know why she says she doesn't know why she doesn't like her.

Wes:

She has a boyfriend. You don't deserve to not like nobody, right? Like you got a, you got a old boyfriend out there and you know, just like shit like that, like I don't like her. So let's just in this or I heard you, i heard you say this is in this. I think she liked you a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot Like making me feel bad that I like a girl. She liked me back Right And I'm like yo don't.

Wes:

And every time that there was a shift, like, or a team meeting or some dumb shit like that, are we all there or whatever. It's more or less like them going back at it, going at it low key, and I know what's going on. But surely I like don't know what's going on. But the one that I fucked a couple of times and sometimes I'll let her talk with y'all, right, she knows what's going on. I'm like I don't know how I get myself out of this. This is not really a thing, cause I'm not even dating her, it's just me liking her. You know what I mean. Like, well, damn.

DeLaw:

Like damn damn If you liking her and not, not even.

Wes:

I'm not dating her. That's the crazy thing. Not dating either one of them Man, But that should just should remind me of shit like that, Like see, i don't, i ain't never gone through that, that's, that's that's over there, i feel like. I've gone through all the most toxic things you could possibly go through. Yeah. Well, I'm not even gonna say most, some of the most, talk all the toxic things, but more or less like I'm gonna have a toxic story for you debate, That's just what it done.

DeLaw:

Cause I've never I've never gone through that. I've been like even my supervisor will tell you that I guess, maybe, maybe I just been fortunate to be like all right, well, look, this is the hierarchy. They're real strict about this hierarchy. Don't have nobody had you do some shit that you're not supposed to Like. The only time I really got caught in the middle of it, anything was like when I was back in the Department of Justice and they were like, like attorneys will come to me but like hey, can you copy this for me? But it'll be, it'll be small shit, it wouldn't even be big shit. And then my supervisor will be like, oh yeah, i need you to do this, but all right, cool, i'm doing this with somebody else. Oh, they didn't come to me to tell you that. But, all right, finish it. But make sure you do this first and then finish that.

DeLaw:

But that's part of this close to other than that cause. You know, like no matter what I do, i'm always good at it. I'm like, whatever. Oh, you said, don't do this, all right, cool, i won't do that ever again. And he was like oh hey, can you do this for me? And I was like oh no, you got to send that to Ms Washington. Oh whoa, all right, all right, i'll send it, but look, there's only like this much, this much Can you no? sorry, she told me I can't no more.

Wes:

You know, i'm constantly put in the situation where I got to keep my wits about me. I didn't even prove myself, i would just keep my wits about me to make good decisions, right? Like the whole shit doesn't go on at work. Yeah, the whole shit with those two girls Me being young, me, i think, was like 16, 17 at the time. I only remember how it resolved that I think one of the choices got fired, the one that was going me off every now and then got fired. I just stopped talking to her. Wow, she had a poor friend.

Wes:

That's the best of crazy. That's the part of my yo. If you got boys, i'm not respecting that, like you do know that they don't care, right? Yeah, and that's the crazy part. I'm not. I'm totally in my opinion. I was totally in the right. I played my part. I did what my uncle say do be truthful to all party. And I ain't had to be truthful because it wasn't like I made my little work crush joint official, right, and then the joint out of boyfriend. I'm like you ain't gonna never be official, we never boyfriend.

DeLaw:

Congratulations. You played yourself. I mean you did, But see, that's me. My coworker's talking about the same shit. It's like the only reason why chicks always get away with cheating is because dudes know how to play a part. Women can.

Wes:

Women don't never know how to play their part. They could be. They could be in money. They fucking apartment people give sand in it and they still want more. I'm gonna tell you like this that was me Young man and some let's just say I'm 20 and some 45, 50 year old decided like you know what, i'm gonna make sure you go on to college paying this, this and this, blah, blah blah. Bring that good dick over whenever I ask or this, this and that, and blah, blah, blah, blah. You think I'm messing that up?

Wes:

Yeah no, no, no. You think I'm gonna come to her. You think I'm gonna come to her, man as a man, no.

DeLaw:

No, No. This should be funny, though. No, People, people cause people be like yo, cause it's like the stories out here, like dudes like yeah, you know, I was messing with Shardie and that, and then, and the funny part is, most people who get, most guys who get caught is because they try to make, they try to have two girlfriends instead of making sure the side knows she the side. And when the side starts saying look, look, I need more than this, all right, well, that's it. Along with they, make the ultimate mistake fucking with no condom. Oh my gosh, Wow, I mean to me that's the ultimate mistake.

DeLaw:

I don't think I'm gonna say that To me that's the ultimate mistake, because you done been coming in this journey and she didn't even gotta be pregnant. But she could just say I'm pregnant And you are and I think that she is Right, and then you try to figure your life out. Then you gotta go back and tell your girl next thing You know she's like oh, i wasn't really pregnant, i just said that because I was mad With where's my mom?

Wes:

You know I do the fuck to go home.

DeLaw:

Hey, it's shit like that, like he's like, come on, like come on like Yo.

Wes:

That happened to my homie one time. He said a girl called him about that or whatever, and he was like she had. He had to ask her what she wanted to do And she was like, well, i don't want to keep it, this is a nut. He gladly gave that money or whatever. And he was like, yeah, i know she probably was just doing it. He gave me for the abortion money, but if somebody wanted to do that to me, they ain't nobody to keep fucking, so I'll gladly pay the money to remove her from my life. And I'm like all right.

DeLaw:

All right Hey shit, that was my boy shit.

Wes:

Yeah, i think that happens to a lot of our friends. I don't think that's never happened to me. I ain't never been put into trouble. That's never happened to me.

DeLaw:

It's never happened to me, but someone tried to pull it on me And nobody.

Wes:

Well, let's just put it that way Ain't nobody tried to pull it on me? I was before suggested like yo. That was a wild night Cause somebody tried to pull it on me.

DeLaw:

I was like yeah, i was like. it was like, yeah, you know, you know I'm pregnant, right. I look at her like are you serious?

Wes:

You ain't pregnant for real, cause it'd be some shit That's what you say, some shit like I ain't even comfortable, it wasn't good, and then you just watch her whole mood, just go. But what you mean, i'm like what you mean.

DeLaw:

Cause my shit was more like like you know how, like you started off or you might slide in the middle without the rubber one. put the rubber one. she was like I don't know nothing about that, my bad, maybe I I don't know what I mean. And I was like, yeah, you know. she was like, oh yeah, i'm pregnant. You're pregnant From what She's like I'm pregnant. You came and that's that coming. Well, you know you can get pregnant off a pre-com. I said that percentage is lowest. fuck, what do you mean? And I was like, oh, all right, cool, all right, if you're pregnant, show me the shit. Well, i sent it in the mail to you. I said, okay, when the mail comes you sent it in the mail Huh.

DeLaw:

Right, that's my address Fuck that.

Wes:

You know what I mean. Like come on.

DeLaw:

He's like I sent the papers in the mail to you. They should have been there already. Oh, they did. Oh, okay, I was like ain't no papers come, You ain't pregnant. You, just you, just you just trying to keep me from doing like I'm done with you, But that's all that was.

DeLaw:

Oh, that's all that was That shit's scary, But that's why I don't you know. That's why I was like you know what, When I found my wife, I was like thank God I ain't got to deal with no bull shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Just like all right, cool, We, we in this together, We gonna grind it out together. We'll get mad, We'll get upset, but we'll work it through. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that.

Wes:

So So nah, I ain't really, I ain't no animal situation like that.

DeLaw:

That's what I would be doing in a situation like that. I've had scares where it is like, oh, i think I'm pregnant But that's because I did come in this right, but other than that, never know. Oh yeah, use the con, but the premium government pretty late I've never had. That was the only time I'm like man, come on. Yeah, yeah, i know, look at all sexy. Hello, look like a whole dinner. Yeah, oh, you miss Mrs Mifcum in now And again, his darker shit in my background. Yeah, when it's not anything.

Wes:

Yeah, i'm saying anything at all. Yeah, man I am.

DeLaw:

But that was my only, that was my only real scare, like, and then even that the chick literally tried to like she played a whole thing with it, like um, to approach is like, oh well, you know I'm having an abortion And so I was like, all right, well, look, if you're doing all this shit, send me the documents.

Wes:

Send me the documents, did you? uh? did you feel like she was trying to get your phone washed?

DeLaw:

No, she was trying to be with me. So she because I was like I don't want to be with you, like I ain't trying to like it was a good blowjob or good fuck, it's it's time to you know say see, i've never had another woman whenever, or just I mean, i'll say, well, i'm a little girl, that's what it was.

Wes:

Early 20s, don't you like that? I never had them with the whole baby. Like I never had them with the whole baby. I didn't want them to be scared, shit or whatever I had. I've been more of us Like she not going to fuck. No girls won't fuck with you the way I fuck. Or no girls want to treat you the way I treat you Like.

Wes:

I remember one time I was working at a I work in someone service and men are talking And like this was some casual stuff And she was. Every time she wanted to prove to me that she was about me, she would prove it. And it wasn't like I was looking for it, it was like a little sudden thing. Today I was like, oh yeah, my favorite, i like Oreos. Oh, i like Oreos too. We get to know each other and shit. She showed up to my I forgot where I even met her. I met her at the job. She showed up to my job with like two things of Oreos. Yeah, i went to Walmart and I got you some Oreos. Oh, okay, thank you.

Wes:

Like you know, i ain't even out dating. We just, you know, promise you on the phone whatever, oh, if you're doing this, this and that, so I'll take you, or blah, blah, blah. Oh, you got to wake up early, we'll call you in the morning and you know, make sure you get up and this, this and that, and this is at 22. Now my head, now I'm thinking about. I'm like damn, and I love my wife. I'm just saying like that You don't find girls like that as willing to. You know, just show a little bit of a pre-shoot, not even appreciation, that she actually digging you on that level is usually us doing that for them. You know what I mean?

DeLaw:

Yeah, i just find that And I'm just like I didn't find that, So I was like 27.

Wes:

I haven't found it. Let me not say that.

DeLaw:

I found it at 27. But yeah, and then I found it with my wife.

Wes:

I was like I don't know I'm lying. So that was like early 20s and then maybe like 24, 25. I found it again, And then my wife, but it was like three times. Three times that I felt like a woman was actually considerate to me, I mean.

DeLaw:

I was. I don't know, i never feel Well. I feel like, well, i'm very selective about women that I'm with anyway. So I don't, i don't know, or maybe I just always find the chicks, who, who you know, like, oh, i just came from this bad thing and it just. I just you know right place at right time, but I don't know. I mean that situation with another person.

DeLaw:

Yeah, they were like a bad situation with another person. You know you never, because those happen a couple of times. So it wasn't like like I don't know Who. I think what do we nickname her? Like, even Hawaii, same way. And then, um so, another chick, i did same thing. Like what am I going from high school? She was like, yeah, i was in. He was just so mean to me, He was just so nice to me. I'm like, oh, all right, you know, that's cool, whatever, yeah.

Wes:

Yeah.

DeLaw:

You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, mama was right, you know that's what I'm saying.

Wes:

You know it was crazy, though My mom, speaking of mom, my mom raised me, right, for some reason my mom don't think I'd be treating like when I was dating and out there and shit, and I was thinking I'd be like being shown a chivalry and shit like that, like any of my girlfriends, right, she was like make sure he do this or do is he doing this, isn't that? And I'd be like yo, like what are you doing? She was like yeah, he does. Can we do this? and this isn't that. And I'm like the fuck. And then, you know, one time I was not my wife. she's like why your mom like that?

DeLaw:

I was like I don't fucking know Like it ain't like she teach me to be that way. I don't even get that. She just want to make sure you're doing it, that's it.

Wes:

No, and sometimes I got a girl over here, but in the day, back in the day, every girl over here ain't the girl. That's my girlfriend. She just might be over here because she wants free food for the day, because it's a cookout. You know what I mean And you know she needs her dogs now She be laid on when I say we're back home. That's just the way it is. Like shit, like that, right, good old moms.

DeLaw:

Yeah, moms are always like that, yeah.

Wes:

My home. When I come to shit like that, like what you're explaining them to. every homie that I got has been through some shit like that And it's just like yo, what do you do? I know what they do. I know what they did.

DeLaw:

Call them, call them on the bluff.

Wes:

Yeah, that's the only thing you can do.

DeLaw:

That's really the only thing you can do, because that's what I did, like everything.

Wes:

Oh well, you know, i think the reason why it doesn't happen to me is that I get insulted too fast. I'm like you think I'm the dummy, you think I'm stupid. You think I'm stupid, you think I believe, yet Like that type of shit, i'm like. I guess we're going to go through this dumb ass shit. We'll see how it turns out.

DeLaw:

Yeah, because I was just like all right, send me the documentation that this happened. All right, cool, i sent it already. All right, cool, oh, send me the documentation of this abortion. Oh, my home girl gave me some pills from Planned Parenthood What?

Wes:

Your home girl just stayed pregnant, that she just got pills on that.

DeLaw:

Apparently her home girl worked in Planned Parenthood.

Wes:

That's her job. at that point She did. She just don't. It's just like dumb shit. Are you glad to be the agent you are right now, am I right?

DeLaw:

This. you thought I was dumb enough to believe that it was just one pill, like, come on, like I ain't that damn dumb.

Wes:

Listen, I don't even know the process of it. All I know is I don't even, I didn't even, I didn't even partake in situations where I would even have to doubt if I was, if I did get a girlfriend. because I was, I was, I was a condom each and every time. And I practice this one thing that most guys practice when they first start having sex is coming they already pull it out and they come outside of the pussy while using condom. I was going to that for like years. I'm like no one knows what's up. Strogan was good, I'm pulling out and I'm coming, but I still have a condom. So, hey, I want to stop this damn near impossible.

DeLaw:

You know, what's funny is when I, when I started, having sex and I use a condom, it was the weirdest thing to come in it. I don't know if it was like that for everybody. Like well, maybe it was just weird because it was a new thing to me. You just like oh, you just let it go. And you're like oh, okay, well, i guess I'm safe. Oh, i let it go, i've got some seat, yeah.

Wes:

Listen, i got over that, i got over that. I got over that a third time I came back on that shit.

DeLaw:

But I got a red like the second or third time. Yeah, because you know what? Because the first time it's weird, you know, like so the first time you ever, you know, had those sort of sensations that have anything come out of your body that's not spit, you know what's shit, or shit or piss. You know what I'm saying? You're normally doing something that's not sex, you know. It's just normally like some dry humping or you, you jerking off, you know so you try helping.

DeLaw:

You know, i'm just saying like In general, that's what's normally, that's what's happening. You know, that's what you do.

Wes:

No, it's just that visual. I have not thought about that And forever, like I forgot that. That was even a thing in my mind. It's like, yeah, I used to do that. I used to do that. You know it was crazy, You know it's some dumb shit. You got to the point where at one point of time, I even did that with like make it. At one point of time, like right before, like putting like my you know my dick between her cheeks and shit like going dumb shit. No really, What the fuck was I doing? I couldn't just sleep. What's it fucking? I think that in one day I was like, yeah, doing that, Doing that, I'm not in my eighties, Mine, All that shit is stupid.

DeLaw:

Yeah, I mean yeah.

Wes:

I'm not stupid.

DeLaw:

I mean doing some dumb ass shit for no reason. You try to do some spectacular dismounts, No, no.

Wes:

Listen, I don't know dismounts.

DeLaw:

I try a couple of dismounts, but I'm not as skilled as what I thought I was. The only This was nine.

Wes:

Fuck, never mind, never mind. Nah, yeah, man, in between the middle of like shit, like that, that shit at the Yeah, i've never been working that. But that shit was weird. I'm like yo this what this lot of women are, and I'm like fast forward 10, 15 years later. Yes, Most women that I've dealt with are like that. They get jealous Sometimes. They get jealous off of nothing. They get jealous off the feelings that they Man like. I am of uncertainty. I'm sorry, yeah.

DeLaw:

I think that I think, as far as like me talking to some tricks, i've had a someone say like I was talking to them but I really want to talk to their friend, and then they, they called me out on it.

Wes:

I've had that happen I ain't never. actually I go straight for what I want. If I didn't get her, then I'll get it. There's no, there's no consolation for us. I don't take one for the team when it comes to situations like that. Now there has been yo. I only take one for the team. If only it's like yo. she has a friend Now, we all together and there's a group of girls. I already called up one and I said it first. If she ain't digging me, then there is no consolation for us.

DeLaw:

Right, like I had It was. it was weird because it was just chick. So when I was at UMBC those is chick that everyone was trying to get at Everybody. This was a little person, jane. She was cute And so visually her friend that she had when I first met her wasn't cute.

Wes:

When I first met her, she wasn't cute.

DeLaw:

Yeah. So she came to one of our flat parties and whatever, and that's how you got. I was drunk as fuck. I told her you know what, you know, you hang out with such and such, so you kind of hop by association, what. So she had lost some weight And I was like you know, you drive bad Like. So I was like huh, i was just trying to get at her. She was like wait, don't you know what? he told me. I was only hop by association.

Wes:

Yeah, come on now, you know the golden rule is treat every girl with Actually, i'm going to tell you what my cousin does. He just first with every girl, because you never know when you can use that to your advantage and she might be feeling certain sideways. He probably hasn't seen that conclusion because the mother fuck it, just like fucking, flirting with girls. But if you will, not you, but if the young men out here utilize that and be the what do you call it? the one, a gentleman, and being the, the cool, suave person that you are, this will be future digs up. You're putting that, you're paying into the bucket of big sucks Like you're going to get that. Yeah, i'm deserts, i've only had a little bit of that And my Going towards, like senior year, going towards college, where I realized like, oh, that's how you got to be, that's just time it is. It's time consuming and exhausting.

Wes:

Yeah, treating every you know man. Just treat them all like they. Yeah, he just a flirt. He's a flirt. My up, don't be labeled a flirty with a don't know why. Fuck with you. You labeled a flirt, so right, and that's why you got to move within different campuses. You know, you have buoy. You have buoy, a state university. Today You had fucking. You know Merlin, next day You do that.

DeLaw:

Yeah, you got to do a little bit of a traveling, little bit of traveling The summer flirt.

Wes:

Those days.

DeLaw:

I hope so, that's no, they all did like that.

Wes:

Even they weren't happy. I could look at the fucking. I'm like what the fuck I mean, i mean.

DeLaw:

I really assume you know, as soon as me my ex broke up, i was like I'm done like looking for a girl for a minute. I need a wife, someone I know, that's going to be here through the thick and thin. You know what I'm saying? It's just like. It's just like at any day you sitting there, you're like all right, cool. You know it's funny. A lot of chicks now don't want husbands. They're just like oh, you know, i could be with somebody and still get the same benefits of being with them as if we're married. No, i am not anything.

Wes:

Now You know what it is. They don't want to be held accountable for any that they do in a marriage. That's all it is, because there's no way you're going to say I want all the things, but just not the marriage.

DeLaw:

Right, it's like oh, it's just a piece of paper, oh, it's just this, oh, it's just that I use it to check my old job, so it could be a piece of paper.

Wes:

We don't have to legally get married, but if you believe in the Lord and the man above, let's get married by the church and you still follow those rules, right?

DeLaw:

I mean that's all. I mean that's all. Don't get half of my when we split.

Wes:

That's all it means.

DeLaw:

And like. So she was trying to convince me that if you don't, in order to get the same benefit being married, you don't have to be married. And I said okay. I said so you can still move it with somebody, yeah, you can still buy a house with them, yeah, you can still have kids with them, yeah. But you're missing the ultimate factor of everything When they die, it still goes to their next of kin, it does not go to you. And unfortunately, in the state of Maryland there is no common law marriage. So therefore you could tell the oh, you know, we've been together for 30 years. That don't mean nothing to them.

Wes:

So what about this? What about the aside from the passing on of the of wealth and like that, You got a will it to them? No, I was saying, shouldn't the main thing be that? Damn, you made me get up about to say how about to say something about like actually having a bond with that person?

DeLaw:

Well, if you got a bond with that person, marry him. I mean, I mean, that's what the reality is. Let me tell you something.

Wes:

I got a home right. I went to his piece. Okay, some preferences. He's practicing the black Israelite faith, right. So I went to his wedding. the whole time. I thought this wedding was legally binding and like that If I use it. No, it is not.

DeLaw:

It's just a ceremony like the old school ceremonies. Right, can you take her into a tent?

Wes:

No, but I missed the point I was trying to make. Yeah, so it's just one of those things where it's like I don't even think she cared, i think she just wanted to have a wedding Right, and I guess in his days we want to get married. It was kind of like a makeshift of things, but she wore a wedding dress and like that. So it was just kind of like you know, two blending of what it was just blended or whatever. And I'm not here. I'm like did he only do that so she can't hit him for alimony or blah, blah, blah, blah. But it ain't like he don't treat her like this. I don't know, it was just weird.

DeLaw:

Well, nonetheless.

Wes:

I don't know what point I'm trying to make. I guess some people like if it ain't by the law it ain't not married. But it's like marriage is never by law anyway.

DeLaw:

If it ain't by the law, you can say, oh, i've been with this person 30 years. That doesn't mean you're staying with them. Yeah, yeah, i could live together. I could do a whole lot of things together. You be with them for 30 years and not be married Like, think about it DMX was engaged to the chick. When he died, he was also still married though. No, he got the full divorce from his first wife.

DeLaw:

Yeah, he had the full divorce from his first wife. He was engaged to the next chick and name and his family made sure she got nothing Like me, sure? And I was telling the chick at my old job. She was like, well, you know this thing and like men are this minute. I'm like you sound like you're gay. She's like, oh, i'm not gay, i've been with God And I'm like you sound gay as fuck Like you said it, man.

DeLaw:

Oh, what I was like to me. I was like you just sound like you've been so hurt by a guy that you're just like, technically, a gay woman. You know what I mean? In my head that's what she sounded like. But she was like oh well, you know, you don't have to, you don't have to do this and you know this thing. And like do you need to get married to show that, show that you love somebody? And I'm like, first off, most guys, if they could, they wouldn't.

Wes:

I'm going to tell you like this I would. This is what I would do If I could. My current wife would never go for this shit. This is what I would do. Ultimately, I would not get married via the state or the government and shit like that. However, if you are my wife and we do it because of religious purposes and stuff like that, legally I will make sure that you are. You will be compensated in case I leave or whatever. Or untimely the math which is willing certain things to you, putting you as a dependent on certain things, or whatever. I mean I'm sorry, not dependent. I've been a fishery on certain things and this is in that. that should be enough.

Wes:

The marriage license just makes this, shows them. It just gets one extra step like oh, they was married, So by law she takes care of all that stuff. If I already got a will and stuff like that, then I don't really need the marriage license. My wife won't even file our taxes together. That's because she fucked up her shit before we got. You know what I mean? I'm not. There's a lot of things we don't do legally together. Taxes is one of them. I bought the house before I got her, Yet now I got her, But I bought the house before we got married, So she's not on the lease. I'm not adding her. So you know what I mean. Outside all that, what is it really?

DeLaw:

I mean, i don't know. I mean I don't know who's point you're trying to prove, but it ain't mine. I tell you that much.

Wes:

It's not your point, but I don't think she has a point either.

DeLaw:

No, she didn't have a point. I mean in retrospect. She didn't have a point.

Wes:

The reason why I said that is because it was like, if it was for a religious standpoint, I mean, yeah, I see it for that. Like yo, we are, we are doing a ceremony to combine as one. We are this under, the man above, and this this and that That's what I'm saying. Like that's what marriage was originally, not The state or the government's version of it. You know what I mean. So in that regard, I might go, if you love them, get married and handle the legal stuff the way I choose to handle the legal stuff.

DeLaw:

You can't hear what I'm saying.

Wes:

Yeah, i mean it's not your point, but I see her point. I will go do it via her point, if that makes any sense, if I had a chance to do it again. Yeah, like a pre-nup and a post-nup. You signed them both of those, yeah Well.

DeLaw:

I mean, I guess, if you sign a pre-nup, that's more or less that's what, that's what divorce. They ain't really for anything else.

Wes:

No, it could be for the marriage as well Pre-nup and a post-nup. If you do both, you'll be like all right, what I'm coming in with is what I leave with. Anything that I earned through the job that I got While I'm before I got with you is what I earned. So let's just say, hypothetically speaking, i don't even know how we get into this. Hypothetically speaking, i keep this job right And I worked this job for 10 more years Now. I feel this is me, hypothetically speaking, right. We would have get divorced during that time or whatever. I have you, since I had that job before you, any earnings ain't really yours. Now, if I got a better job and a new job and I'm with you and this, this and that, that could be seen as you helping me get that job by you being you and you know, keeping me stress free, making meals and stuff like that, you might be entitled to some of those earnings for that job, right.

DeLaw:

Yeah, that's just me. I still don't see your point. I got you. I still don't see your point because I was just like I understood. I understood, well, you can do all the same shit Not being married But the one thing that you can't have like, let's say me and my wife, we decide we're going to live together for the remainder of our lives And she goes before me or I go before her, unless I will it to her. You didn't, you know. Let's say she. Let's say I was a whole celebrity and I was worth millions If I was a guy with no will. Just unexpectedly, she gets nothing, regardless of whether or not anything. And that's the biggest reason why the people who you know, all these partnerships with the gay people, that's the whole thing They want to like. If their partner dies, they want to be able to collect their shit versus it being willed to them.

Wes:

But that's the point. What, yeah, the way they collect them.

DeLaw:

You can't collect. If you are not legally married, you can't collect enough, and unless they will, you can legally get married.

DeLaw:

So what's the what I'm saying is her thing behind not getting legally married, because he was like well, you can still collect their stuff if they're not. If you're not married, no, you can't. I'm like it goes to their kids ordered. Oh, i see what you're saying. Right, that is, that is the biggest benefit of getting married, you know of. If something happens to your spouse, you're not asked out from the family. Oh well, you know, i know she had all this stuff, or he had all this stuff and I can. Well, you weren't married, so they should go to the family. The kids is going to everyone else, but you, you, you asked out. But the other part of it is you also can't like for her. She might as well just say I want to have that freedom to. Well, i'm ready to go. I'm ready to go When I'm ready to lead this relationship, i'm ready to relieve this relationship versus and you have a, then she has a problem with commitment.

Wes:

It ain't really the marriage It ain't?

DeLaw:

it ain't really marriage? Marriage to her marriage means commitment. Which marriage is commitment? but being married means she has to be accountable for her commitment versus. I'm in a committed relationship that I can uncommit at any time.

Wes:

I mean, i don't know what to say to that Hey good.

DeLaw:

Well, she didn't like me too much. She tried to keep me from getting a promotion in my last job, did she? Oh, yeah, she tried it. She was like well, you know, i was walking past D-Lo, what's she saying? So I went for my interview. She was cool, and after they offered, they said I was going to be one of the people who moved a full time. They were like my boss was like yeah, you know, not my boss. My super boss was like yeah, you know, you know, she tried to say well, you know, he said some really unfavorable things about women And you know, sometimes he, you know, like some of his, you know, when he talks to people with his real power. And I was like what? And so he was like who have you been talking to around? I said I'll talk to that nobody around that girl. And he was like yo, like real life. She tried to block you and like luckily, everybody in there said well, we never had any formal complaints, complaints.

Wes:

How he?

DeLaw:

talks to anybody, so there's nothing we can do about that. Like you're in, like somebody was, like he said somebody's saying the thing like, so you just randomly bring this up, like you used to be a green shirt, versus where you are now. Why didn't you make a complaint? Yeah, she might just eat man. That's what I said. I think she hates men. I think she, i think I think somebody did her wrong and she's just like a firm like she's like anti-marriage. It's funny because I was on some one of these these guys who, like goes to church, like yeah, pretty much where they're going to start saying in the world is like you don't need to be married. There is this one of signs of the times that's coming. I'm like, what? Like?

Wes:

I mean that shit's already here. And the crazy thing is, it's already here but sometimes the woman don't even know that they're saying it or the way that they act. They don't know that that's what they're portraying or not portraying, but I'm projecting Right. Yeah, that's what it is.

DeLaw:

That's what I'm crazy.

Wes:

It is.

DeLaw:

You have some some, some wild, some wild times being between two things, you tell me you, between a rock and a hard place in a lot of situations Where Now you Oh, why do you say that? Because with your bosses you're chick. That's not your chick, but the chick you're fucking. No, no, no, no.

Wes:

Let me stop you there. That was in the past. That was in the past.

Wes:

I mean, i'm just saying No the shit with my boss made me think about all the times I've been in the past, all the times I've been put in between shit that I shouldn't have been put in between for no reason, right, like, just because you hate this girl, you don't like this girl, but you're not a woman, i don't like her, right, so what? Like, i don't care, you don't like her. Like, that's not my problem. That's not my problem. Right Now am I coming over after working that? Right, that was the issue with her And, like I said, she just found out, like, not, she just found out, but you know she'll see you, i'll hear that we be talking and shit, because I don't know when I've been the other guy before.

DeLaw:

I've been the other guy before. Where is?

Wes:

another guy And it's not like a I'm another guy, not a problem, not proud, but it happens. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I've been the guy and somebody's been the other guy.

DeLaw:

So my brother, Oh no, like like somebody said, everybody been cheated on. Yeah, you sure do Like, even if you don't know even cheated on you, but you know whether it's been physically cheated on?

Wes:

whether it's been a relationship I've been cheated on. Yeah, maybe it's someone.

DeLaw:

I will say I've been some side, some sort of cheat on in their relationship, maybe not physically cheated on, but they've been out there giving somebody attention. They time they, they, they gone through some sort of I don't like them, but let me, i got a boyfriend, let me know. Or let me keep this guy on my on the back burner, just in case I, you know, some shit go wrong, like having a, you know a contingency plan. You know what I'm saying?

Wes:

Yeah, so Sounds like more and more Kevin Sam, you the lead, that guy. Hey look, it's more.

DeLaw:

Yeah, more and more It's sound like he knew what he was talking about most days. He definitely knew it was all on.

Wes:

Yeah, i ain't getting into that. I wouldn't get into that either. I'm not no finger by for tuning in. You all don't get put in the middle of stuff. I just have the toxic life over here Right When I sit back and reflect on my toxic life that I weed, i have Next time.

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