According To Wes

Get A Hobby Loser

August 28, 2023 Wes/DeLaw Season 7 Episode 11
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People out here kissing turtles, and it sounds like most of of us would be better off if we actually had hobbies. (Shopping Is Not A Hobby)

Speaker 1:

Hello, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2:

Wow goodness.

Speaker 1:

Today we're going to talk about how, if you on the north side of 30, don't think you're on the mid side of 20.

Speaker 2:

What is that really mean?

Speaker 1:

Say goodbye for listen to the court in the West podcast. We have your host Wes as he blows air horns, and you have me, the permanent guest with the most below.

Speaker 2:

Right now, did you actually hear air horns this?

Speaker 1:

time I actually heard air horns. That's why I look at you.

Speaker 2:

Were they loud and clear.

Speaker 1:

They weren't loud and clear. They were loud and choppy, but I knew the air horns went off, oh my.

Speaker 2:

God, this shit's still fucking up.

Speaker 1:

But you know I got out there today and you know I did what I was supposed to do and I threw three touchdown passes.

Speaker 2:

Three touchdown passes.

Speaker 1:

Three touchdown passes. I didn't have a painting manning accuracy because you know, with the whole lifting and everything, because you know I'm on my Rocky six, shit, you know where. You're no longer young, you don't have the athleticism you used to that you can compete with the athletic people. So you have to go straight. Strength and smarts. And that's where I was. And when I say I was throwing passes, I was like damn, I overthrew them. I said didn't used to be fast. It's like nigga, I'm old too. I was like oh damn, so I do, I want you out here reliving your glory days.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, hey, look. And when I said, no, spirals were tight Niggas, look, I was, look I was throwing them and I was like, and I was like mesmerized by like, how tight those spirals were and how deep I was throwing the ball, I was like, you know, like I was throwing them. I was like yo, that's the tough ass spiral Shit. I hope that's that, but that's just look good.

Speaker 2:

I ain't got time for extra curricula was like that with people my age, because what ends up happening is someone just as out of shape as you and end up injuring you by accident.

Speaker 1:

Well see, this wasn't even with people who were my age. These are people that 15 youngers in me- that's even worse.

Speaker 2:

They got something to prove.

Speaker 1:

They got something to prove Because you know, you know you don't talk.

Speaker 2:

It's even worse.

Speaker 1:

Hey look, d-law talks. Yeah, all right, if one thing that anyone knows from this podcast D-Law talks shit. Like there was this dude on our on the alumni squad. We know his ass can't play no defense and they do. They do a pass on his side and I'm like I'm going to like turn, turn, turn this up in the air. He don't even turn and you know they don't get the pass. It's incomplete. And I'm yelling to the receiver or the other team how you let that nigga go ahead and strap you up. Man, you saw him, bro, you saw him.

Speaker 2:

This is after I hurt my Yo D-Law's starting a podcast full of life. He played some flag football and shit. He didn't stick over the introduction. Hopefully you guys like the introduction Sounds like you. Uh, this, this is going to be your new thing Flag football.

Speaker 1:

Like you know well, I realized that, uh, my heels, my ankles can't take it no more.

Speaker 2:

Maybe you just did too much when you weren't supposed to.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, I think I over exerted myself earlier this week, like a lot of standing, a lot of walking and stuff like that that I just had wearing tarot on my heels. But like, right now it's not too bad and I feel like once I go to bed and I recover and it won't be as bad. It'll still be bad, but won't be as bad. But it's just when I say it's painful, it's pretty painful. Like, yeah, it's pretty painful, I got you, but I do two touchdowns, I got an interception and, um, you know normally when we would do this, uh, fraternity, uh, alumni event, um, I know we played the whole game offense, defense, safety and quarterback. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

So I felt I felt very confident that the alumni of my fraternity um can hold their own without me actually being there, and I can just kind of show up whenever, like I used to go become like man, we're going to lose if I ain't there. That's just a competitive nature in me. Well, I felt very confident that, um, they're okay without me and I think that's how I felt, like once I kind of gave up the fraternity life, the, the whole. Like I got to show up because they can't do this shit without me. That's kind of how I felt, like I felt relieved that, like I don't have to be there for this to run and for this to do whatever.

Speaker 2:

Hey, you just disappeared.

Speaker 1:

It's metaphor. It's metaphor.

Speaker 2:

I don't need to be here to do this shit.

Speaker 1:

I find you. It's dark as shit in this motherfucker. Let me turn the light on it's metaphor. That's the awakening I felt when I realized I don't need to do this shit no more, like I don't have to do it on my own anymore, like I can just. I can just be D-law, you know, I can just be D-law, I can just you know what I'm saying. I can just be me and go to shit when I want to and not have to worry that they they are no longer, they're in disarray because I ain't there. You know what I'm saying. It was a great experience. Shout out to Tall Cap of Epsilon International fraternity that's my fraternity, tke out here. You know what I'm saying. So shout out to them for getting me out one last time, because I'm definitely not coming out again with this heel. I might go out one more time. I might. I might go up, but I'm only playing offense. I'm playing quarterback. I ain't playing no robber, see, even though safety, no, nothing. I ain't doing any of that shit. But yeah.

Speaker 2:

So one another note People out here kissing turtles.

Speaker 1:

Hey look, there's people out here kissing.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, that's not what I was getting at.

Speaker 1:

That's what I took from it.

Speaker 2:

No, you didn't. I ain't say shit like that, I ain't.

Speaker 1:

Look, I've been singing to my wife. I've been singing to my wife all day. The Kendrick LaBar, damn drink. Let me stick the head. And that's what I've been singing to her all day. You been drinking. No, actually, this is a sober me. This is the weird part. I don't know why. I'm just really sober right now.

Speaker 2:

Just really sober right now, really sober. The reason why you're really sober right now is because you have not been drinking. That's usually what happens when you don't drink.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's tough, it's a horrible feeling to feel, but we were coming home from church and lust came off from Kendrick LaBar's album damn. And it kept saying let me stick the head in. I walked in and I was like you don't let me stick the head in. She was like what you heard? Why would I do that shit? Stop asking me what I said. You heard me. There you go. So yeah, this is what happened. You know everyone. Thank you for coming to the recording West podcast. You know we got your host West. This is double.

Speaker 2:

You said that you don't want to intro again.

Speaker 1:

You got your guest D law, the double sudden law.

Speaker 2:

Yo, this is what you do. You go upstairs and you go to your wife. You say you say hello, can I please have sex with you? I'm sorry, may I have sex with you? That is what you do, cause you didn't did a whole bunch of shenanigans and shit like that. So you've been singing that all day. I bet you should be like yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's cool, why not?

Speaker 2:

No, but no turtles. Salmonella outbreak happening turtles. I don't know why the CDC is telling people to stop hugging and kissing turtles.

Speaker 1:

Well, the real question is why did they just have them turtles?

Speaker 2:

and kissing. I'm going to give you one thing that's wrong with that sentence the N word. It is not the N word, that is the one.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry as I bring this down around. Why are motherfuckers kissing turtles?

Speaker 2:

and I already knew it was. Listen, I haven't seen a turtle Hold up. It's been I don't know how long since I've seen a turtle, and the first time I've seen a turtle I had it been a teenager. So you know it's not us.

Speaker 1:

I ain't gonna lie because I will say this I will say this.

Speaker 1:

So there was a turtle that when I was coming in the house one day this is probably like a month or two ago Coming in, I was backing up, I was like wait, oh shit, there's a turtle here. I was like, all right, well, let me go in the house and call my wife, like hey, there's a turtle outside. I go in there underneath the neighbor's car. And I was like, well, he's moving fast, so he should be able to get to where he's going. And I was like, well, what if he's not moving fast enough? In mind you, I got it, I got a cat now. So now I'm all pet conscious.

Speaker 1:

I was like what if he gets hit? And I'm like, oh my gosh, oh no, he might die. And I was like, all right. So I called my wife. I'm like what should I do? Like what do what I do? She's like, well, bring it in the house. I said, well, I don't want to bring it in the house because you know our cat is very territorial about his house. That's not the shit off that turtle, not that it's the cat's house.

Speaker 1:

It's our house, but the cat's territorial boat his house, yeah. That's how the shit is in my house too, so I'm like I'm going to take them and put them in the grass, and so I was like, all right, cool.

Speaker 2:

First of all, you're not supposed to be touched. That's what the CDC shit is for. You're not supposed to be touching them, motherfuckers.

Speaker 1:

Well, look, I put my gloves on.

Speaker 2:

Did you really?

Speaker 1:

I put my scrubs on. I thought the car was in it. No, I'm sorry, my bad, that's the car. That's the car to three numbers, or anyone, I didn't know. But I picked up the turtle on the, on the shell and the stomach, like like you know, with the middle finger and thumb, picked it up with my gloves on, put it in the grass where it was safe and let them you know, let them go. My wife was like okay, cool, is he still out there? I said bitch, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

She doesn't know.

Speaker 1:

I said I don't know. So I was like, well, just check. So she, you know, she's like would you give me some green beans? And she's like give him this, give him this. I was like green beans. She was pretty much. She was saying you should give him some food. No, well, we don't have a turtle tank for this turtle and I'm not bringing in a turtle to this house because we already have a cat. Now, if I'm a firm believer, if we bought in a small dog or small cat, small turtle, small anything, that they all interacted with each other Cool, that's fine.

Speaker 2:

They all turtle. The turtle ain't gonna be walking around like that?

Speaker 1:

No, it's not. But that means now. Now you told me I got to buy a whole new tank, a big ass tank for the turtle, and I was like I just kind of this is what you do you make her buy it. Well, when she got home she came home with a tank.

Speaker 1:

No, she didn't come home with a tank. She came home and she was like okay, well, I'm going outside. I said, okay, cool, I saw her take some vegetables and shit like that. And she's like I said, well, you didn't find a turtle. She's like, no, I see you a little dispensary, she's like a little. But I understand, like why you didn't bring him in the house. I said because we didn't handle with a book, like do you want the cat to eat the turtle?

Speaker 2:

The cat's definitely not going to eat the turtle. It is smag it around, it's not going to eat the turtle, but it was one of these.

Speaker 1:

I don't want the turtle shitting on the floor because he's scared Turtles. What, yeah? Turtle shitting, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean, yeah, I know that, but I don't think it'll be a speed. I don't know. I don't. Like I said, I don't interact with turtles, Seeing one for the first time as a teenager and haven't seen one in like 15 years.

Speaker 1:

So now that's, I mean, that's, that was our interaction, but this is recently.

Speaker 2:

This is this year, so y'all started this Salmonella outbreak is what you're saying.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we might have. I want to believe that we didn't. I want to believe that we didn't start the San Juan outbreak, whatever you said, Outbreak. We didn't start it, but we might not have. Not, we might have contributed to it. I'm adding slobbers to everything, but um yeah, but you know, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But that was that, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's funny because I'm like yo, the CDC warning us about turtles and salmonella and shit, and I'm like yo, I know somebody else that's gotten sick from uh and I, this motherfucker, don't think it's COVID, but I think it's COVID. Yeah, it's definitely cool because he's almost uh it says negative, but I'm in my head.

Speaker 2:

I'm like you heard the news, right? Yeah, my wife, mom, uh, had courted or whatever, but her shit was showing up negative, even though she had symptoms. And then, like maybe like three days later, even still with symptoms, it kind of showed up and then the next day it disappeared, like if she wasn't, she wasn't negative, she wasn't positive anymore.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, oh shit, it's that me go back to school tomorrow and it's kind of like all right, triple messed up, here I am. There's no way, that's what's going to happen. Yo, it's coming, it's fucking coming. I'm like all right, well, I'm prepared to be in the house again, not that they're going to lock us down, I'm just not going away.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, you know it's funny is um, because of my wife. I was like. You know, as much as I enjoy doing my job and being um, what I do, um, I'm ready to get out of it because I'm tired of working during these, like COVID, happen these, these of right? Like COVID?

Speaker 2:

happen Yo. You chose your job, though knowing that you work through COVID with the other job.

Speaker 1:

Like we, we knew, we, we knew when COVID happened, that you know it is what it is Like. I'm not saying that I didn't know what it was when I signed up for that job 10 plus years ago when I signed up for it, but it's one of the things I'm like damn yo, like I really like was in an emergency preparedness for that long and when we finally hit a point where we had to like do what we had to do, I was like yo, this is for the birds Like no man, I'm done, I'm in my head, I'm done with it, I'm completely done with it. Like I'm ready to just work a nine to five If they say we shutting shit down, shutting this shit down, niggas.

Speaker 2:

I don't think they shutting them down, I just think not. I think I know me.

Speaker 1:

I'm living myself outside.

Speaker 2:

That's just what it that way.

Speaker 1:

Now we're too. We're too equipped.

Speaker 2:

We're too equipped for it now and not only that I don't think it's gonna be killing nobody. I hope not, I think. I just think people just gonna be getting sick.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, yeah, we're just, we're just too. We're too equipped for it. Now, like, as much as I would love to say that we we can get away with doing that, we're too equipped for that particular scenario anymore. Like we've had COVID and well, I haven't had COVID, but COVID has happened and now you know that, unfortunately, only the strong really survive and if you have underlying shit, it sucks for you. You better have the vaccine for your body to kind of kind of figure the shit out.

Speaker 1:

But you, you kind of you, we know what it is, so they're not shutting anything down no time soon. You know what I mean and and and that's, that's the, I mean, that's really the of the whole thing is no one's, we ain't shutting the shit down no time soon. And me being in my position, we, I already know we ain't shutting the shit down. And that's why I'm kind of like, as as much as I love my last position that I had, and as much as this position is not bad, I'm kind of like nigga, like I really don't want to do this, because it's like yo, you tell me that I still got kind of working with 12 hours just because COVID is going on like, come on like.

Speaker 2:

I'll tell you like this, when people got to do six feet away from each other and mask and shit like that, and things ain't going to be open or it's not going to be the same quality of whatever, like it was in the summertime, and, as a winner, like people that don't got hobbies, they're going to be going crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they are.

Speaker 2:

And I think that's the only thing like, when all that was going on and initially that kind of kept me saying was fucking hobbies man.

Speaker 1:

So D-Law has gotten to a point where he plays regular games like me and that just yeah, like I, you know, after you know, mind you, I would have never played Skyrim. I would never played. I guess it's called Elder Scroll 4, 5, 6, whatever it's called. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would have never played it if my old supervisor never said nothing about it. It would have been a game that I would have even thought about playing, right. And I come to a conclusion now where I'm like do I really need to play 2K? Because, think about it, d-law are you becoming a gamer.

Speaker 2:

Is this what this is?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

I'm becoming a gamer. No, you're becoming a gamer.

Speaker 1:

I'm becoming a husband where I value my time enough, where I value my time enough that, like I know, 2k takes a lot of my time. And if I'm going to invest any time in 2K, it's like I invest any time into the fraternity. It needs to be worth my time and if my time to 2K is updating the raw system, making a few tweaks, I can't justify doing it. It's like if the fraternity only not that the fraternity has to bring in like 10 black guys, but if the fraternity is bringing in a pledge class and it's 8 people and 7 of them are white guys, why do I need to show up? I mean, you know in my head.

Speaker 1:

that's D-Law logic. No one should ever listen to D-Law logic. This is the first thing you should ever do Never listen to D-Law logic. In my opinion, I have to be able to myself, to my family, to my wife, to anything that I do, I have to justify the time, and if the only thing I justify the time is 2K24 to me, it's not worth my time.

Speaker 2:

What it sounds like to me. I'm growing up, I'm getting old. No, no, no, no. What it sounds like to me, your wife was like yo, I know the fucking game coming out. You spent way too much time on this shit last year, not enough time with me. It's not happy. It's not happy. I don't want time to put an end to it.

Speaker 1:

She doesn't even know when this game comes out. She doesn't even know when the game comes out. She doesn't even know when the game comes out. This was just like this before I came to the revelation.

Speaker 2:

You just now come to this revelation. That's the problem. I don't understand. I knew this.

Speaker 1:

I mean because I try to justify to myself to buy 2K. When I say I really try to justify to myself to buy 2K, I was like why am I?

Speaker 2:

buying it. Was this the first year that I'm probably going to buy it and you not?

Speaker 1:

This might be.

Speaker 2:

More than likely, I am going to buy it. I have it. What?

Speaker 1:

I put it this way I haven't purchased the game yet. I haven't either. I haven't purchased it yet. I'm still trying to figure out if I want to purchase the game. I think that's where I'm at now. Do I really want to purchase this? That's $99.

Speaker 2:

No one said get the $99 version.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying in general for any you know, this is more or less for like, if someone was like thinking, about buying it.

Speaker 2:

You shouldn't have to worry about getting it, because first day the server is going to be fucked. The server is going to be fucked.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying in general, do I really want to buy this game?

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying that I want to.

Speaker 1:

I'm just airing out my grievances of how I feel I'm not even like when they were like oh, ronnie2k, ronnie2k. I'm like who the fuck is this bitch ass, nigga Ronnie2k? Wow.

Speaker 1:

I'm thinking this bitch ass. You know what I'm saying. Who the fuck is this bitch ass? When people would tell me Ronnie2k was like this guy who was an influence, I'm like nigga, everybody's an influence at this point. Are you good? Are you good at what you do? As far as being a part of this community? You got people who I respect more in the 2k community that I'm like. You know what? That's? A real nigga in the community. I don't like the community as much either and talk about how the community is toxic and everything that was up me. Ronnie2k. When I saw Ronnie2k, I was like who the fuck is this punk ass, bitch ass. Who was nigga in the USA?

Speaker 2:

That's just me, that's just D-Law West did not say it.

Speaker 1:

West did not say it, but that's just D-Law, just me being a thinker, as we all should be and as we all are. That's just me, you know. Are we really entertaining this game? Like, I guess that's my thing. Are we really entertaining this game? Are we really playing this game because we enjoy it or are we just playing it because we hope it's better? You know, and I guess that's where I guess that's where I am now it's like am I playing this game because I enjoy playing it, or am I playing it because people are playing it? And like, why am I wasting my money on a game that I really don't? I really don't fully enjoy playing? Like, don't be wrong. Like when I'm having good games, yes, I enjoy it. I mean, who wouldn't enjoy dog and niggas on a game? But Do I really enjoy playing this game? And that's the question I had to ask myself is and I realized, like I really don't enjoy playing this game at all. But no stress, I really don't. I understand nothing, of course you do.

Speaker 2:

D-Law is a gamer now.

Speaker 1:

I'm a gamer.

Speaker 2:

Playing games like 2K is beneath him. That's all I got from that. Yes, well, if you've been a gamer and if you have an actual hobby, an actual full hobby where you can only you can play multiple games, how do you feel? How do you feel about Hobbies in a relationship like men and women having different hobbies, like? How do you feel that?

Speaker 1:

I feel that that's a good thing or a bad thing, because a lot of women will say it's a bad thing because it takes away from the attention from them or the or their man, well, paying attention to things and shit like that. Well, like I would say on any other episode, you know I can pick and choose the what's the best way. No one can pick and choose what they want to be what they want, so what, what?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm an.

Speaker 1:

I'm an expo, I'm an explainer, so we do a lot of episodes where we talk about how it's never even. It's never this, never that. But when it comes to relationships, having hobbies and things that you do are good, and it's always good because it allows you to decompress, where, where your partner is not catching that stray. You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I'm going to talk about from my standpoint of it. So my wife hates when I play video games, ok, and she's like oh, you playing that dumb ass game, but it's my way, you know, when I'm trying not to drink you she said, you know, when I'm trying not to drink alcohol and try to be sober, it's like you got to give me one to the other. Either you're going to give me alcohol, you want to give me, give me the video games for two hours, you know. And it's one of those things where it's like yo, at least it's two hours.

Speaker 2:

I know some of the homies that we play for, like four or five.

Speaker 1:

But I do, I do two hours. Or if I'm tutoring or I'm working with a kid, I'll play video games. But you know, that's my thing. I'm like, well, you're you know, and a lot of times like, well, you're upset about what? Like you're upset because I'm playing video games, or you're upset because you don't have nothing to do and All of a sudden, now I'm still working, like you have to you. You, you can't pick and choose when you want to be. Oh, my God, is this, is no you. It has to be consistent, it has. It has to be consistent. You know what I'm saying? It has to be because it can't be.

Speaker 2:

You can't pick and choose it.

Speaker 1:

So if I say, well, you know what, I'm playing video games with guys because I had a rough day at work and everything was a blase, ok, cool. But you, I can't, you can't turn around and be like, well, you know, here's your decompression time, all of a sudden I say, oh, you playing that dumbass game. Well, I come home every day, monday through Friday, played this game. Like, what you mean? Like?

Speaker 2:

that's like the equivalent because you know like sometimes you're one will come to you and shit like that. That's, that's like the equivalent of saying God damn. You about to tell me about the boring pictures that were you know I can't. You don't do that to yourself.

Speaker 1:

Mrs, I have a question for you. Do not do that, so is it OK.

Speaker 2:

Oh my.

Speaker 1:

God, people in a relationship, married or not, to have their own.

Speaker 2:

He lost, you say yes, you say yes, yes, I get that. I'm glad that's the only question you ask.

Speaker 1:

The only question I remember that we asked, but I think it's healthy to really like, even like today.

Speaker 1:

She wants to the beach, I want to play football. I might have hurt myself and fuck my shit up and you know, but I went and play football as she was. But you, you have to have that outlet. Where it's not with your partner, you have to have it. It's no, it's nowhere around it to to Like, if your whole existence is around your partner. What happens when your partner gets a life? And that's the one thing, like I'm when your partner gets a life. Yeah, no, that's a real thing. It's a real thing Yo.

Speaker 2:

I'm a hope that your partner has a life off of this. No, goddamn way.

Speaker 1:

So I remember, when I remember I told you I had a, I had a girlfriend where she swore up and down that if me and her broke up, I would have no friends. I'd be home by myself, blase, blase, because she got all these friends and she could do whatever. Yeah, that was her thing. And it hit me. I was like, huh, is that how she feels for real? And I said, ok, cool, and mind you, I had to tell her once. I was like, yeah, like I understand your point of view on this whole thing, but don't get sick of views that I choose to hang out with you. I don't have to hang out with you. You know what I'm saying. Like people ask me to come hang out with them all the time and I choose to be like, no, I'm good, I'm not gonna hang out with my lady. You know, it is what it is. And well, I don't believe you. I said, okay.

Speaker 2:

So when we broke up, yeah, the type of one of you is like I'm arguing with you about if I got fucking friends, but you dating me, you're the loser. If you think that Motherfucker like, what type of shit?

Speaker 1:

is that and this like, and this like, and when I was like so, cause in my head I'm like, like you really think that I'm out here just oh my gosh, I'm waiting for you to get home Like no, I've never, ever done that. I've never done that.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna tell you like this, that saying that absence makes the heart grow fonder, that shit is true.

Speaker 1:

It's true and lie.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not a lie. How we, how we about a different one. That's it is true and that's why it makes healthy relationships. For people to have hobbies is because if you truly like that person once you did you and stuff like that all you want to do is talk to them, be up under them, all that other bullshit, like I'm pretty sure that's what goes on over there, cause that's what goes over there, like after we didn't do that thing or after working, shit like that.

Speaker 2:

Man, well, remember my wife would talk for like fucking hours about any and everything and laugh and ask Alexa, dumb ass. Shit, just to prove each other right and wrong and shit. And that's all based off of she doing her thing and I'm doing my thing. Branded, I got a lot of fucking hobbies. I could stay busy for fucking months Like literally she, my wife, she just now, you know, get into the groove of things with her hobbies and shit like that. But she has, like she has things that she'd like to do, but it's like hobbies. Like you know, she's still getting into the groove of things, but you know, I'm not saying that you, that that's not.

Speaker 1:

You know, I'm just a mode from my what I've encountered.

Speaker 2:

I just does not make the hard world founder for you. That's what you said.

Speaker 1:

Now I know, because I like being around my woman and I like it Like even though, so you know, so remember this COVID.

Speaker 2:

remember the COVID thing, right, my one. It first started and there was no absence and people was divorcing each other left and right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and a lot of domestic violence and a lot of domestic. Ok, remember I had to go to work Right, so, but when it's OK.

Speaker 2:

So absence makes the heart grow, founder, no, you contradicted yourself. You just said no no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

But speaking on my current relationship with you, I like to be.

Speaker 2:

I like to be with mine too. However, the, the is not work for 100% of the time.

Speaker 1:

What a difference for that is. When COVID started, me and my wife were already having issues with that. I wasn't around enough because I work so much, so when COVID happened, you're outlier. It was like OK, cool, we're not in the mind, you don't get wrong. That me Did. We still have issues when COVID started. Of course, yes, we did, you know.

Speaker 2:

It is without saying that we still had issues when COVID started, but what it was was, and y'all were kind of like newlyweds a little bit too.

Speaker 1:

Right. Well, at that point we had, we weren't even married at that point.

Speaker 2:

We were just just. My timeline is all fucked up.

Speaker 1:

Well, we, when, when COVID started, we had officially moved into the first place, we got to Right, right, right, right, right, right, and two weeks later, a week to two weeks later, COVID started.

Speaker 2:

So you know why weren't we talking about that when that was happening? I don't even remember that timeline.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, it never came up. You know, I follow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what, if you write it never came up because all is other important. The shit was going on Right Because people dying and shit, so geez. Like later COVID happened after y'all moved into.

Speaker 1:

Like let me hey, babe, when we moved into 745, covid started like a week, two weeks later, right A week later. Yeah, a week later, yeah, a week later.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't really imagine that Now, first of all now, you won't be in there, be in there All day.

Speaker 1:

But it saved our relationship when I say, you know, for some people COVID fucked their relationship up because they realized they really couldn't do with each other. If they had to, they had to be retired within the gift Me and my wife it's saved. It's saved our relationship. It saved it because my wife was already having questions about if she really wanted to deal with me because of the fact that I worked so much just to make enough money to, you know, to maintain, and she was already having her doubts. So when COVID started, it was like all right, covid started, so I'm giving her updates on everything that's going on. Then I find out that I can toot online and then everything else.

Speaker 1:

Like Namaji, it wasn't all smooth and it began because when COVID started and I was still tootin' online, I was still in an office at the house and I was in there and I'll come down periodically just kind of say hi, whatever. Then she was like well, you know, you never heard. So then that's when I moved to, to, to, to announces, like where I record at, and that's when I was like, ok, well, I'm down right now we're recording. Now I'm tootin' down here where you can see me at all times. You have access to me at all times, and that's, honestly, what really saved our relationship was the fact that I could now take my business and do it online, whereas if she wanted to talk to me and a kid was proficient in what they were doing, I can mute my mic and talk. I can talk to her and have a conversation, versus her calling me while I'm at work and she has to guess if I'm busy or not. So it it worked out for us in that aspect of making sure that our relationships stay together.

Speaker 1:

Now, for a lot of people no, it didn't Like it's people, it's it's people who I tutor their kids and not together. The parents are not, they're not together, no more. She and I'm like like I was, I was a green turtle in a coffin one time and the guy was so you know, you know, you know me and my ex oh, oh, he's so cool. What's your ex? Oh, I'm talking about my ex-wife. I'm like, wait, you and your, that's not you and your. You and your, your, your daughter's mom or divorce, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, and and I respect the old, his things when they tell you stuff, because they tell you stuff that's based on what's happened to them, but also I don't respect it to a point of. This is you should have known anyway. Yeah, you know, we got the force. Well, I'm going to encourage you to know your wife's love language. These love language things have been around for the last six to seven years for me.

Speaker 1:

No, listen, my wife's love.

Speaker 2:

You are, as you know, as a, as an educator. The information is out there, but now everybody has access to that information. Not everyone gets that information at the time that it's supposed to.

Speaker 1:

Right, it was in which. In which I do understand. I understand that, but I'm just saying as far as the old head telling me something that. But like my, my girlfriend before my wife, she was like, hey, let's do this thing about your love language, like so I knew about love languages and everything else. So I was like, all right, she's a little bit fine.

Speaker 2:

I it's a scam. It's a scam and a myth and a myth and a scam and a sham, and a scam and a myth.

Speaker 1:

Women like Zodiacs. Listen like Zodiacs Right.

Speaker 2:

So, basically, the love. Ok, I agree that those are the languages of love. However, I have learned that any one of those can supplement. Any one of those can take their, take another one's place as far as hierarchy. Yeah depends on the situation, it depends on the environment, it depends on their mood. You are.

Speaker 2:

And it depends on the person and it depends on the no, it depends on the person. But when I say person, I'm just a woman. I've been in situations where I'm not, but I'm not but you. I've been in situations where, oh, I require this over this, and then it's kind of like no, this situation, I need this more than this, I need that more than this. I'm stressed, so I need this more than that. You kind of get what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like if you know your, if you know your, your, your woman or your partner, inside and out. There's no like oh, for example, like oh, I'm um, what are the love languages? Again, cause I don't even pay attention to that shit.

Speaker 1:

My physical touch Right.

Speaker 2:

There are certain touch gifts uh, affirmation blah, blah blah.

Speaker 1:

Affirmation communication, it's like that.

Speaker 2:

So in my head, my theory and I could be wrong quite often there's just I'm trying to think of a scenario, without saying my scenario, but there are moments where, like, okay, hierarchy, right, so I'm this and I'm that, and then I'm this and I'm that, like in certain situations like yo, you don't show the person that you love them or they they're feeling love by, like you know what? Let me go get you a gift. Or I got the blah blah. You know this, this and that, like, not looking for a gift, they might be looking for words of affirmation right now because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's all I'm getting at.

Speaker 1:

It's very, it's very sharp. They agree with that. Because the one thing, the one thing I know about males, the one thing I know about me in general, I ain't give two shits about you giving me a goddamn gift, okay.

Speaker 2:

The, the, the book of women. It was not written for men, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

The language is for love, but that's not. I don't act personally, can't really subscribe to like oh, I like this over this. I'm like nah, there's moments where I might need physical touch more than anything and there's moments where put that shit dead last because of what's going on or how I'm feeling at the moment.

Speaker 1:

Look, so don't always come to me with physical. You kind of know what I'm saying. I don't always come to your woman with physical touch, if that's her first way. I'm never opposed to seeing what her mouth do. That's not what I'm saying but sometimes, when it comes to like events, like my birthday shit, like that, I want to see what you can do Like I don't want you to be like okay, it's your birthday, here's some pussy. Oh, okay, it's our anniversary, you brought me a gift, here's some pussy.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad you, I'm glad you explained it the way that I was trying to explain it because I couldn't explain it, but that's what I'm getting, like perfect example, your birthday or perfect example, her birthday. Yeah, I mean gifts is going to be the thing, but sometimes women like, depending on the woman, it was like yo, you can't really get them anything that they haven't gotten themselves. The gift is cool. You know what they want. They want words of affirmation, they want what was the other one Quality time, that's what they want.

Speaker 1:

But, regularly.

Speaker 2:

That thing could be gifts, so it's kind of like no, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Like, yeah, but you know what I think? I think a lot of times those words of affirmation and those gifts like for it for for specific events their birthday, valentine's Day, christmas, shit like that where you put it again their love language is what you get them and no matter what if you don't look at that maybe have a look at case in point.

Speaker 1:

So I was with a chick back in high school, okay, and I, well, I was supposed to be done in high school but we just need to hear today. So for her, for Christmas, I got her a ring. Okay, not an engagement ring. Now, the ring looked like an engagement ring, but it was just a ring, just because, like it's jewelry, whatever it was. She wanted an ID bracelet, okay, with her name. Because she got me an ID bracelet for my birthday, I was like whatever. And I was like, okay, cool, so I got her a ring. I got. When I say I got her a lot of shit, I got her a lot of shit. And when she did not see that ID bracelet, when I say she the whole shit flip.

Speaker 2:

You dated some bougie ass girls.

Speaker 1:

Like when I, when I say the shit flip, the shit flip, it was like oh, you didn't give me an ID bracelet, I really wanted that ID bracelet because I got you the ID bracelet. And I was like, and in my head I'm like bitch, I didn't ask you to give me a fucking ID bracelet, you got me an ID bracelet because you wanted to give me an ID bracelet. And in my head, if I didn't ask for an ID bracelet, why are you getting me an ID bracelet? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but that's neither here nor there. So I didn't get an ID bracelet, okay, and so I didn't get out of it. But I got her a ring. So for two months she was over here questioning if we should be together.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I was like, I'm here. Yeah, what school did you go?

Speaker 1:

You go to a kid Look, I want you to school. I'm not to this point.

Speaker 2:

Because there's no fucking way. There's no way. You've been with a bougie girl that early.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I was.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you were. That's what it sounds like. That's crazy as hell. Like I'm questioning if we belong together Because I didn't get the ID bracelet but I got a ring. That's a spoiled ass brand.

Speaker 1:

And so a lot of times it might be obviously me and her aren't together because I married my wife. Um, but me or these little leaves when, when shit really popped over me and her, it was like all right, cool, whatever, Like I ain't tripping about shit.

Speaker 2:

Yo you, I'm not to say that you're looking for anything like that. Is she married? Do you know? Fuck, no. So you just know off, the rip, rip.

Speaker 1:

Like you have proof. Before I got married, she was like how you know, how did you go about getting over me?

Speaker 2:

Because I can't get around anymore about that.

Speaker 1:

She was like he's like, like it says, mean you broke up, you been with this girl, this girl, this girl, this girl and I finally met some might, but anytime you come around it's like yo, like I want to be with him. I'm like bye, bye, bitch.

Speaker 2:

That's how I know what the fuck I tell you, right Like like it's a life, like like it's a life for real.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, and so when it for me for me, and I can only speak for myself.

Speaker 1:

If, if you, if you're going to expect certain shit from somebody, then that's fine, but be prepared that if you can't match up to what they want and I guess and I guess that's me Like you want me to do this, this and this, and if you can't do it, then why the fuck am I doing it? I was doing that before people were doing it, like, hey, well, you know what Fuck it Like. Why? Why am I? Why am I bending over backwards for somebody who ain't going to bend over backwards for me? You know what I'm saying. I'll book you, I know, I know.

Speaker 2:

Listen, that's crazy. So it's almost as crazy as fucking black China saying that, hey, I think I want to take Tiger for child support now and it's been like 10 years and remember it came out that she only get her son from him what? Saturday through Monday and he has a son the rest of the time. Yeah, I'm like yo, get the fuck out of here. Like even the internet chewed her ass out Like you was out there. You listen, she had her hobbies. Quote unquote.

Speaker 1:

She tried to work the system.

Speaker 2:

Because the system was she working the system. She's trying to work it now.

Speaker 1:

She's trying to work the system where we already know the system isn't built. These, these, these systems ain't built for black men. These, these.

Speaker 2:

And that's so flagrant, though. So flagrant you telling me I got my kid all the time and then the market be like. You know what? I want him more than two days Can we have joint custody, and I need child support from you, like what was you doing for 10 years?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they can do that.

Speaker 2:

No, they can't. They should be able to do that, but that we'll see they should be that should not. They should be able to like, motion that and file for that. It should not be able to be food in her favor. That doesn't make no sense. You don't have the kid.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So, like I was telling my wife one night that in this, me and her weren't having an argument, we were having a discussion, no, I was about. I feel that a lot of times for black men and this is black men, this mean you Okay, we, as as much as women, swear they go through a bunch of black women and that this is this, and, mind you, I don't deny that they didn't have to take care of the bodies after we were hung and shit like that, and that they didn't have to do a lot of stuff they did, and that they haven't endured a lot of stuff. But what has happened across the forefront of everything is the white people have made it, so the black community can't be a whole because they put so many things in fact and they imagine they can't. They can't do it just to black people, because then they know it's racist, so they do it across the board.

Speaker 1:

So you, when you think about section eight, you think about where fair, you can't have a man in the house, you can't do this, you can't do that. But for men as a whole, for men as a whole, okay, we, we go through, we meet somebody, we get them pregnant should don't work out. Even though we make more money, we can take care of the kid. Where does the kid go? Okay, goes to a woman, right? Okay, so the mom isn't making, but so much. And they said, well, I got to go on section eight and say, okay, well, you can't have a man in the house. So now not only can you have a man in the house, but now you have these kids and you got all these niggas on child support to bring money and plus your own on section eight.

Speaker 2:

Well, the purpose for that, if I'm not mistaken, is if you had a man that was working in this, this, and that you should be able to live with him. That's that's how that's supposed to go. But it does not go that way. So the government is like, well, you're not going to cheat the system, right, you can't have a man here. So I don't really necessarily think, in my opinion, I could be wrong and I'm not. I'm not, I'm not. I know we we may have had that conversation about a year and a half ago too, and I'm just like that's some shitty shit. Like I guess I got to live out on the streets and shit like that just to make sure the job straight and then we can get together.

Speaker 2:

We can get together, but that's a tough life for us, if that you know. We played it by the book. You know what I mean. Like, oh, I can't come live with you because you got section eight and I want you to lose your shit and I'm so. I'm so what is it called couch surfing at that time? I'm staying where I got to stay and trying to find trying to find work.

Speaker 1:

But see, that's not even the worst part. See, that's just. That's just the front part, that's a. That's the front side of it. So the other side of it is think about the mentality of black women, okay. So think about certain ones man so we're talking about certain ones we're not talking about when I talk about all of them, we just talk about certain one. So think about what the white man did to make sure that the black man stayed down.

Speaker 2:

They have almost I seen as white woman. Oh no, you mean like drugs and shit like that.

Speaker 1:

Not even, not even just just just in general, of how black men are black men are put down in the, in the, in the workforce, black men are put down in society. Black men are put down everywhere and and the one thing that I've noticed is it has transcended over into black women doing the same thing that we have. So on one side of it, we have to deal with the white man, the white, the white community of putting us down and thinking that we're a threat because we, we are, we are strong, we are this, we're that and everything else. And then we turn around to these modern women and all of a sudden we're being the same put down as we were from the white community. So we're getting on both sides. So we're trying to figure out, well, like, do we do this or do we do this? We, we, we have to deal with our women and we don't want to like leave a woman hanging. But then we got deal with the one on the other side and it's like, at what point does a black man get a break where it's like, okay, I get, I get to breathe for a minute, versus having to take, you know, all first.

Speaker 1:

Like, like we, like I said another time, there was a mean where they asked all these women, if you, if your man woke up and said he wanted me. Once you make them sandwich, you do. He got two hands, two feet. But we got to go out here in this everyday world and worry about getting home safe because we might get pulled over and because they feel they're afraid of the black man and and I think that's where women and black women forget that the black man is still the most feared person on the world and we're sorry in in the in America, where if we get pulled over, this is a strong chance. If you don't look like what they consider a friendly midget, you could be killed that day.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got you and then and then the same token. I get what you're saying. I'm gonna just say my humble opinion is just, is just, it's just tough for both of us, both sexes, in general black man, definitely because they got. They got there, not there, but they, they have things they have to worry about to have the stresses of the world as well, so I would never say one stress.

Speaker 1:

I would never say one lot of kids, shit because.

Speaker 2:

But you said kids shit.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying as far as like, so, like me and my wife, like, say me, me and my wife we're together and let's say we had our own child together, a lot of kids, or or her. So she, she has her own thing she has to deal with.

Speaker 2:

Man, I won't say that that's. That's the shit we're in modern times, the kids. Shit is our shit.

Speaker 1:

That's shared.

Speaker 2:

Let me, let me, let me get my wife have all the time, because let me give up for the front, though I'm not gonna let you get it.

Speaker 1:

but I'm gonna let you get it.

Speaker 2:

What I'm saying is like they got their own stuff they got to deal with, just like we got to deal with, like the, the micro aggressions of white folks or shit like that. They deal with that shit, too in a different way. But they deal with that shit too. Well, these shit, we deal with that in a different way. They deal with, like them, just totally not giving a fuck about that person being a woman because she's black, that type of shit. But if it was a white woman, the black audience, a woman, sometimes they don't even see us, as you know. I mean that's people, or people in general.

Speaker 1:

Right, no, and that's exactly what you know, that I mean, that's what I was getting, that. But you get there quick enough, man, I didn't get to do it, but also, but also want to. Just I also want to bring to light of the fact that, even though we are looked at in a certain way, but they, they have almost, I feel like it sometimes, they've almost trained all women to look at that.

Speaker 2:

They train certain women to look at. Look at us that way.

Speaker 1:

That's not all women I got it.

Speaker 2:

I got it from both sides. So the fact that there is two sides let's me know that now that's just no motherfuckers over there, so I ain't really tripping.

Speaker 1:

I just I just want to you know, I want to unspecify I feel like sometimes we will win in our particular situation, that there is times where I feel like we, as black men, we come across the wrong black women.

Speaker 2:

I give you this. I give you this is a lot of fuck, fuck, motherfuckers that make it bad for, like, decent black guys. So you get that and they do generalize, but we dare not generalize them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're not generalize them.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot of. There's a lot of that I can. I can get you that, but as far as like ones that actually know the difference, I know there's ones that know the difference in between, like whatever, whatever.

Speaker 2:

But at the same time the ones that know the difference they still got. They guard up like which one are you and they won't feel you out and they want you know they won't. It's going to be some stereotypes like this they looking out for this and this and this, or trying to, why they're trying to figure you out. So that's a thing, like that's always going to be a thing. But I think men for the most part, they go into a whole heartedly. Most of us, like yo, this is a woman, I'm a treat her as such, I will respect her, this, this and that I'm not saying that woman don't respect, you know, black woman. Don't respect black men.

Speaker 1:

But in a day, if you were man, and you were, and you can hold your own. It doesn't matter who you date, yeah. You know what you knew, you can you, you, you, you, you, you.

Speaker 2:

she won't see you as him and you hand in your business, and that's what it's going to be. That's what it's going to be. Question, that's what it is.

Speaker 1:

Really, and if she really wants to question, then that means she wants to be a nigga. That's how I look at it. I mean, I mean in my opinion, because if you, if you say look, well, you know what I want to go here, boy, look, I got money for that. So this is what we're doing. Well, that's what I want, that's fine, ok, well, are you paying? No, you're going to pay. No bitch. No, that's not what we're doing here.

Speaker 1:

No, like you there is a good intake, like you can't, you know, with, with this whole new modern woman movement of these niggas going to make sure they pay for everything. Well, ok, cool, if I pay for everything, that means you need to be doing everything around the house, like that. If I'm paying for everything, you want to get back to the 19 something, 18 something, 17 something. Then, bitch, you're going to be acting like it is that? Because I can't, I got and you don't, and you don't do shit. All you do is give me a pussy that we talked about last week, that's what I was.

Speaker 1:

The value of twenty dollars, got to get a McDonald's. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

We did.

Speaker 1:

that's not what we thought, that's not what you said, but that's what me and the Jamaican talked about.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you know, but that goes back to what I was kind of saying last week was like you know, like if you want to be, if this was the day in town that we live in where everything's bothering and it's a little bit of a mixture of stuff, cool, that's cool. But if I'm asking you to do something or you're doing something, do it because you love me, not because I'm saying like yo, you're a woman, not because you think yo, you're a woman, you supposed to do the shit like, do it out of love. It's like I'm doing the shit out of love, like I'm doing the, I'm doing the man, the manly, masculine things I'm supposed to do out of love, because there's a lot of men that don't do any of that shit and there's a lot of women that don't do anything, anything at all. Right, so it's one of those that. But that goes back to what I was trying to say earlier, or trying not to say earlier is that when it comes to, when it comes to like the modern thing, as far as I the how you were saying like you feel like a black, black woman, have turned against us or they got that society has got them to turn against us.

Speaker 2:

I think the major thing with that is just money. I think like sometimes they figure like, oh, I'm working and I'm making money, so I should be able to have a. I should be able to make all the decisions, or make part of decisions, or just this and that, or I should be able to tell you what to do as well this, this and that. Even if I, if I make one minute to be able to tell you what to do and my whole thing is as a partnership or in a relationship and shit like that, as a man I never felt like, well, I make more money, you I should tell you what to. I should be able to tell you what to do.

Speaker 2:

But I think that's where it comes into play, because it's kind of like the money don't mean anything. I'm still. I still look at things differently than you. I don't have my emotions into my decision making and stuff like that. I make good decisions, I'm very educated, this, this and that, and I'm the, I'm the buffer in between the world and and and shit getting to you like you know, bag guys and shit like that. So it's kind of like I would think my word with, even if you made more money to me means a whole hell of a lot, or just like what I'm actually trying to tell you. If you trust my judgment is not the money don't mean shit. You still got to trust the person's judgment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah so that's my whole. Thing.

Speaker 1:

Like the modernism of women where they feel like, oh well, I, why do I need to obey you, why do I need to do like in and if you, if you go to Merris counselor and my whole thing is why wouldn't you devise up for both?

Speaker 2:

So that means I ain't got to listen to shit that you say.

Speaker 1:

To have a whole nigga Do sickness and help my boy. Yeah, you ain't going nowhere, nigga. When she died, you ready to die. When he died, you ready, right, it isn't. That's what I'm saying and that was the thing out when I was looking at the thing I was like wait you're, you're worried about saying this.

Speaker 1:

he has to say the same shit to have an old baby, you sickness and in health. Like it isn't a one way street of obeying, like it's not, like I don't know, make this oatmeal for me, but it's more of a partner is literally the reason. It just it just triggers certain women when they hit at Obey or submissive fire and I'm like yo.

Speaker 2:

Here's the thing. I'm not going to work you like a me. I'm not even going to work you. It's just saying that. Know that my role in this situation is head of the house. That's all that means. Right, I'm not going to work you. I'm not going to have you fucking sweeping at three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1:

If you sleep, you sleep like it doesn't make any sense and if they really listen to the vows.

Speaker 2:

the, the, the same vows that they answered to the same vows we answered to.

Speaker 1:

So that means not only, not only are we subject to the same vows that we have to the fact is, as the fact that they say the same thing is the fact to initiate the fact that you're a partnership. There's a reason they call your marriage a partnership instead of a dictatorship. Yeah, like I told you, it's the money thing. It's the money thing.

Speaker 2:

Like the crazy thing is right now I'm in there. Well, I'm going to try to end here. The money thing, right? So let's just say man makes all the money and stuff, like that Black man. He's definitely not telling us about black woman what to do. It never happens. So what makes you think of the role of the black man? It never happens. So what makes you think of the roles of reverse? You still get this. You still going to think you would tell me what to do, like no it's not how that shit works, right?

Speaker 2:

Not how that shit works.

Speaker 1:

I mean every.

Speaker 2:

It's not how it works. We have to wrap this up.

Speaker 1:

You know it's almost 10 o'clock and I still got to go get food. You crazy.

Speaker 2:

I go crazy, but we are. Most days I am. We think everybody fits in. Most days the law is crazy and most of the days I am hungry.

Speaker 1:

See you next time. I'll see you next time.

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Kissing Turtles and Turtle Interaction
Discussion on COVID and Gaming
Importance of Hobbies in Relationships
COVID and Relationships
Black Men and Women's Challenges
Money and Power Dynamics in Relationships
The Role of the Black Man