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We introduce the concept of "passive simping" - knowingly acting like a simp to get what you want - and discuss how this strategy plays out in everything from casual dating to marriage.






Wes:

All these other people selling their a**hole out here. I refuse, I'm too old for that.

DeLaw:

Look what I'm trying to say. You ain't going to be selling your a**hole, you're selling your d**k. Why feel this way?

Wes:

You got to get nah, but if you got to get, you got to get butt a**. There's going to be some girl like let me see your a**hole, and she might tip for you to show that I have, as you guys show it, she's holding up a 50. She's like yo, I'm spreading the fuck. Yeah, I don't want to be put in no situation like that, where I'm like you know what, I thought I was going to be swinging my helicopter. I don't want to do that Exactly. You don't think of those things. You don't think of those things.

DeLaw:

You don't think of those things well. I'm pretty sure 50's not enough for me to show my ass. I don't want an extra price hey look, I'm gonna need a couple of G's, and that's only for you to look at my ass. Same thing I already gotta get. Get prostate check, check, so.

Wes:

Yeah according to Wes' podcast, where we believe it is good to be a good Samaritan and not a good doormat as always. Yeah, wes.

DeLaw:

You have. You got the most loaded law, the devil's son-in-law in the building.

Wes:

Yes, it's been a while. It's been a while. It's been a while I was, you know, mother's Day passed. How was your Mother's Day? Nothing crazy happened, right.

DeLaw:

Not that I know of.

Wes:

What do you mean not that you know of? You're celebrating your mama and your wife. What do you mean not that you know of?

DeLaw:

Not that I know of. And if it did, they didn't say nothing.

Wes:

You was drunk for most of it.

DeLaw:

I tried to be, tried to be, you tried, I mean that's a chance name, that's a joke, I think when we got home we went, got food, went to my mom's house and came home I think I cooked dinner. I guess what did I make for dinner? I think I made some ramen.

Wes:

That sounds like a couple noodle activity. You ain't make ramen, you eat a couple noodles. You do some chicken and an egg and then call it a day.

DeLaw:

I don't know. That's a really good question. No, you know what I did? I fried some fish. That's what I did.

Wes:

That's not bad. I didn't cook shit. I took my mom out to eat, though.

DeLaw:

I think the following weekend I made some ramen. We saw this thing online. Pretty much like I told you, I got this thing called the Hookup. We just take some ramen, Like you said, throw an egg in there, onions, hot sauce, whatever. I was like, well, why don't we just make that? She's like okay, Do some pepper, do some cilantro, do some shrimp, do some chicken broth, do some shrimp packets in there, do the noodles in there, wait for it to be done, pull it out, keep it rolling.

Wes:

I ain't gonna lie, I've been doing that for the last couple months. That is my new struggle meal. Not that I'm struggling, but it's one of those things I'm struggling to cook. You get what I mean. I'm like, nah, even though it's processed chicken or whatever, I have I'm pretty sure Some frozen grilled chicken strips and shit, yeah, chicken strips, throw them, bitches, in the microwave, boil an egg I'm eating in less than six minutes.

DeLaw:

I did that in. I went and got some shrimp. Mind you, all they do is take the frozen shrimp, throw it in the thing. I'm not, I wouldn't have got some shrimp. Now, mind you, all they do is take the frozen shrimp, throw it in the thing.

Wes:

Yeah, exactly, I'm not going to sit here and saute them bitches just to throw them in there. I might just cook an old goddamn situation if I'm doing that.

DeLaw:

I didn't have to wait all day for the shrimp to defrost or whatever. They already did the process for me. You know what I'm saying. So I was like, all right, instead of buying this bag for $11.99, that's two pounds, not $11.99. Let's say the bag costs like $11, $12, $13, right, yeah, and I wouldn't get those two pounds. They won't give it to me on sale for $2 cheaper anyway, why not?

Wes:

Yeah, why not?

DeLaw:

And then go home, peel them off. My wife hates to tail on the motherfuckers, do she? Yeah, she's like oh, I always pull the tail off, so I get shrimp They've already frosted for me and peel them things so she can just eat and go.

Wes:

Mm.

DeLaw:

Damn man.

Wes:

Shit ramen all the way. What a way these prices are. It's filling, you get your carbs. You make sure you throw your own protein in that motherfucker.

DeLaw:

Yep, oh, protein and everything. You're tired. Look, I'm about to be. I'm trying to put drunk and tired in the same sentence. Frunk, yeah, frunk.

Wes:

Or crunk up in this motherfucker Shit. I'm tired of myself Finding where to go see Sinners last night with my wife how was that.

DeLaw:

It was pretty good, pretty good. Did you see it in?

Wes:

theaters, or should I wait, I don't know. I feel like so. Remember when we were younger, maybe like our early 20s, like going to the movies or even scenes going to like 24, going to the movies was an event Like you wanted to go just because you wanted to hear the people in the theater react the way you wanted them. I mean to certain things, not the way you wanted to go just because you wanted to hear the people in the theater react the way you wanted. To One of them I mean to certain things, not the way you wanted them to react, but you wanted to react to the reactions and feel that energy and shit. Even though the movie's been out for maybe like two weeks now, I still got that experience from the movie, from people in the theater. So I was just like damn and in my head I'm driving home and sharing with my wife I'm like damn.

Wes:

So does that mean this was legit a good movie Because people have been saying it's a good movie? But you know, sometimes black people will say it's a good movie because Can it be trash? Yeah, because it's black people in the movie, I'm just like I can honestly say it's a good movie. Should I can honestly say it's a good movie. Should you wait I mean, it's probably about to be on a song soon, because you know what I mean Because it's been out for like three weeks now and I think I'd say go, you ain't gonna waste your time. It's not a time-wasting movie.

DeLaw:

I'm gonna give you three movies and you can tell me if it's close to better than, or what about seeing these movies?

Wes:

Genethese 2.

DeLaw:

I didn't see the movie, Okay then we'll throw that one out, the Equalizer 3.

Wes:

Never seen any one of them. What See? Here's the thing with me and you.

DeLaw:

I got one more. I got one more. What Vantage Point? What?

Wes:

are you saying?

DeLaw:

Man, you ain't seen none of the good shit.

Wes:

No, the thing with me and movies is like I got such a back catalog of movies to watch Like I keep. I say this all the time Like going to college I was locked in. Locked in. It was just more or less like study.

DeLaw:

I guess Vantage Point was college.

Wes:

I'm just saying in general that mentality never left. So it's kind of like I'm not getting up to go to the movies and I'd rather watch like a documentary or whatever, or just try to figure out. I'm doing other stuff with my entertainment rather than watching movies.

DeLaw:

Did you at least see Den of Thieves 1? I've seen the first one.

Wes:

I liked the first one. Okay, so this is better than Den of Thieves 1.

DeLaw:

Yes, Okay, I'm just trying to gauge it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Den of Thieves 1 was actually really good. Surprisingly, yeah, den of Thieves 1 was the greatest of actors, but he pulled it off.

Wes:

I like the premise and the switch up in one. Yes, what do you call it? Is it called a switch up? I don't know what you technically call that shit the reveal, I guess.

DeLaw:

I don't know, he realized that he was the orchestrator. Yeah, yeah, actually, if you really want to be a good criminal, you always want to be a good criminal. You never. You always want to look like the weak link, but be the one always pulling the strings well he was. You want to be able to manipulate people is what you probably getting that because they viewed him as the weak link, because he was just a but only one person knew, his knew he was the one pulling the strings yeah, and that was a guy that was his number two who did the recruiting.

Wes:

Yeah.

DeLaw:

Yeah, did the recruiting like, oh yeah, these people come to the bar or whatever. They line them up. But yeah, I mean he a bartender, so no one's. In reality, if I was looking at him as a cop, he's a bartender, so no one's they're looking at. You know, in reality, if I was looking at him as a cop, all right, he's a bartender. He's probably just looking for some extra money. He got some, some theft felonies on here, so that means he's probably just a wheel man. He ain't nobody super important. Versus really looking at it and being able to realize, this motherfucker is really orchestrating and manipulating everybody.

Wes:

I like movies like that. They give me a good plot twist and not feeling like it has to be a plot twist just because you need to throw in a plot twist, like when stuff is, it wasn't shoehorned in. Even with this Sinners last night, I didn't feel like anything was shoehorned in. And even with this uh centers last night uh, I didn't feel like anything was shoehorned in. I was engaged all the way through. I went at nine o'clock and if anybody knows me at this age that I am right now, I will fall asleep in a movie theater during that time, if the shit is. You know cause my body is sitting down and relaxing. It's dark age.

DeLaw:

I want you know because my body is sitting down and relaxing. It's dark. If I didn't engage, I wouldn't sleep.

Wes:

Especially if I had already had a drink, yeah, food.

DeLaw:

Oh, that's game over.

Wes:

Me and wifey went in there with two McChickens. I ordered a large popcorn. She got herself an Icy.

DeLaw:

It was a good night. You made sure you covered it up so that they wouldn't just let them check your bag.

Wes:

I mean listen, it wasn't her purse, so nobody checking her bag.

DeLaw:

Anyway, that's what we do. We take all our other snacks and we just get something that is like okay, they brought something from here. Okay, it's just a more three. They only really suspect you if you come in there and you got that big ass purse.

Wes:

We ain't doing nothing crazy like bringing in a whole entree, a three entree. I've done that before in my younger years. Did you know those little bags? You know those bags that women be having? It's like a shoulder bag and it look like the. It's actually like a sack, A shoulder bag. You go over the shoulders like a sack and shit. I don't know how to explain that shit, but yeah, I've snuck in a whole two plate entrees Chipotle shit like that let's see what my wife about to ask me.

DeLaw:

She asked if I'm home.

Wes:

You already know she about to ask something crazy anytime I get the hey you busy, I'm like, oh shit. Or hey you busy, I'm like oh shit, or can you. Oh, hey you busy. It's like you need to do something or can you do me a favor. It means I need some money or equipment. I'm just like those are the two joints and it's just like. Whenever I hear those joints, I'm like man, I like doing this shit. Man, she wants a tropical smoothie? Oh, she wants you if she?

DeLaw:

she asked if you want something. That's what I'm asking her now. Are you asking to see if I wanted something? I'll put a smiley face like a hey, that mistake with my wife.

Wes:

I should say something like that. She was like you want me to get you something? I? I'm like, yeah, I ain't got no extra money. I think the thing is 15, blah, blah, blah. I'm like what's the point of asking? If I want something, I'm paying for it.

DeLaw:

Why not ask me I?

Wes:

ain't got it, you ain't got it Nah.

DeLaw:

I ain't got it.

Wes:

Congratulations you, congratulations. You played yourself. I don't want nothing then.

DeLaw:

Look, I'm surprised. You guys said I was home. I was home when you left.

Wes:

You said, you was what.

DeLaw:

I said I was surprised. You guys said I was home. I'm like, I was home when you left, like Right.

Wes:

But you thought I had to go start your day. You know what I mean. Like, where am I going to go? It ain't football season.

DeLaw:

I ain he About to go start your day. You know what I mean. Like, where am I going to go? It ain't football season, I ain't got nowhere to go.

Wes:

True, I came out the womb saying hell to the Redskins, I know.

DeLaw:

All the pitches they got on me. It wasn't them from Philly. You know, my people, my mother and them. They from Philly.

DeLaw:

I, um, they're my mom's a Skins fan Um, my uncle and my aunt my uncle my uncle that's a Bishop and my aunt that's in California they're Eagles fans, but the rest of them are all Redskins or Raiders. Um, now, the uncles that didn't grow up in the that, didn't you know? They married in. They're all Skins fans. So obviously, when I come out the womb, all my pictures have Redskins, Redskins, Redskins. Came out the womb held some Redskins, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the first sport I knew, oddly enough, was football. That was the first sport I really kind of knew. Yeah, when it came to basketball, I didn't really start watching basketball until we moved to Maryland from DC Because, once again, when we lived in DC, even though it was right down the street Not right down the street, but you know it was close.

DeLaw:

It was close. I think I want to say it was probably up Once you got back on not even going that way to South Dakota.

Wes:

If you go out, like you're trying to go out through 50, east Capitol or whatever, Cause I'm thinking about thinking you was staying at a different area, nevermind, you start saying East Capitol, east.

DeLaw:

Capitol is the not close East. Capitol is on the other side. That's coming through downtown to. The fastest way to get to where I live was coming down 50 to South Dakota and then turning. I forgot which street you got turning. There's one street you turn on that takes you to Children's Hospital. You just keep going until you run into Canyon Street. We live into Canyon Street, First Street. Yeah, so we live on Canyon Street. So that's quite a bit of blocks away from Howard University.

Wes:

Yeah, so I'm mixing your childhood with well, not your childhood, but what you told me with my childhood, because I was right off of, at one point in time let's just say at one point in time, let's just say at one point in time it was by the Strim Bowl, Benning Road, the Denny's, where Cameron always got robbed at. That was the area that I was in. So you know, just making that right by the Denny's and keeping it straight, you had RFK.

DeLaw:

Yeah, because RFK. I'm not going to say you can't get the RFK off 50, but it's not the recommended way to go. You can go down on this.

Wes:

You don't have to go down on 301 or 202.

DeLaw:

Yeah, just to run into it. Yeah, not 301, 214. 214, if you take Central Avenue all the way down, you'll run right into RFK.

Wes:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you're.

DeLaw:

But the way that we had to get to our house, we I'm not going to say we didn't pass RFK to go to certain places or to come out to Maryland and see family and stuff, but it wasn't the optimal route. And then when we moved from DC to Maryland and we went to like towards northeast, like Clay Street, ben and Rue and all that, we had to go past the stadium Because you know, going that way down, coming all the way down and then going to like Minnesota Avenue and all that, you pretty much run right into RK. But yeah, man, so I used to watch football.

DeLaw:

Avenue and all that you'll pretty much run right into RK. But yeah, I used to watch football. We used to watch the Skins. Doug Williams was playing quarterback when I started watching it, like a little over two years old. And so, yeah, a little over two years old, started watching football. Remember, a little over two years old, started watching football. Remember very little, apparently. I told my stepfather got home from work, I told him who won the game, who the MVP was and all of that. So I was like, clearly I was a very intelligent, talkative little boy, hey.

DeLaw:

I take it, you know what I mean. But when we got to Maryland my uncle got me into basketball and that's how I really got into basketball and the first team and the only reason at any time that I was a fan of this team is because it was the first team that I ever saw on TV playing basketball and it was this white boy, bad white boy, just shooting jumpers, just cooking them motherfuckers. I think you might know the guy. I think his name is Larry Bird.

DeLaw:

I know the guy and I became a Celtics fan. At first I became a basketball fan, but I originally became a Celtics fan.

Wes:

So how the hell did you migrate over? So I migrated over when I saw Jordan, you're not winning me over. You're not a Chicago fan.

DeLaw:

So I went from a Celtics fan and wanted to be like Larry Bird and shoot threes to seeing Jordan and seeing how I'm just getting in the basketball I'm still young, I can kind of float between it. You know, I'm up there on the course doing the up and under, hung all out, I'm doing all this shit trying to beat Jordan, and at that point I was still kind of a Celtics slash Bulls. I wasn't really a Bulls fan, I was more of a Celtics fan then. And then Larry Bird kind of retired and I was young and I kept watching Jordan so I became a Bulls fan. And then Jordan retired and I said man, fuck the Bulls too. And then I seen this bad jump shooter and the three-point competition just knocking down threes. You might know the guy. His name is Reggie Miller.

Wes:

I do know the guy. My whole thing is I don't understand how you stopped that. I mean, I do understand how you stopped that Jordan on the way, but when Larry Bird retired, Reggie Miller was in the league. So why didn't you say, oh shit, Larry Bird is from Indiana, who plays for Indiana.

DeLaw:

I never made the reference. You know, I used to play on Sega Genesis. I used to play Bulls versus Blazers and I will only play as the Bulls versus Lakers. That was the very first one. I used to play as Bulls versus Lakers. I only played as the Bulls, and then sometimes it was either the Bulls or the Suns. I played as because I never could, because they, the ones that had good shooters, were at Jordan. I never played as the Magic because I never played as the Bulls.

Wes:

It wasn't Jordan.

DeLaw:

It wasn't Jordan no, no on this one. This was Jordan Jordan. Oh, it was so. Everything before the first retirement is Jordan Jordan, like Bulls vs Blazers, bulls vs Lakers. Yeah, that's Jordan. That's Jordan Jordan now do. I don't know how that all worked, but Jordan had the up and under little layup he did all the time, or he'd dunk on people. It might be Sega Genesis, so it ain't, but so high tech it ain't necessarily.

Wes:

You only get maybe two moves top of each way.

DeLaw:

And it was a little primitive a little bit, because Super Nintendo had it, Sega had it. But then when they came out with NBA Live so you remember the NBA Live on Sega they were a little bit better than Bulls versus Blazers. But the Bulls versus Blazers series I want to say and I say Blazers because they've had multiple games of it the very first one I ever played was booze versus lakers, so it only had the teams that made the playoffs. It didn't have any teams that didn't make the playoffs that year. So in the particular game I had when I had booze versus blazers, the clippers made the playoffs. So I got to play as the clippers and played as danny manning and you know other. You know other players like that. So I kind of that's how I kind of got really into basketball based on video games. So then Jordan retired, Saw Reggie Miller, I wanted to see what team he played for. I almost became a Heat fan. Honestly, I almost became a Heat fan.

Wes:

Oh, you know what's crazy I gotta. You just reminded me of another reason why I chose the Celtics, but I'll let you finish yeah, I almost became.

DeLaw:

I almost became a Heat fan because of um Glenn Rice yeah, I almost became a Heat fan because of Glenn Rice, because he was a good shooter too. I stuck with the Pacers and Reggie. I've been with the Pacers ever since.

Wes:

You know what's crazy? I should have became a Heat fan because when I was younger I went to Sherman Douglas basketball camp, I think he went to. I went to Sherman Douglas basketball camp, I think he went to. I forget what high school he went to, but I was in the basketball camp. I got a picture with him too. Then, when he went to the league, I think Miami had drafted him. He didn't stay in the league long, but Miami had drafted him.

DeLaw:

Sherman Douglas was in the league, pretty decent all the time.

Wes:

Was he.

DeLaw:

Yeah, Sherman Douglas.

Wes:

Yeah, and then he played for the Celtics for a brief moment as well.

DeLaw:

He played for the Celtics.

Wes:

He's from here, yeah yeah, yeah, let me see something.

Speaker 3:

He played for like 12 years Heat.

DeLaw:

Boston Bucks, jersey Clippers Nets.

Wes:

Yeah.

DeLaw:

It'd be some wrong time. So, yeah, no, I thought Sherman Douglas was pretty good, because on NBA Jam I played with Sherman Douglas and Dee Brown. Yeah, yeah.

Wes:

Well, yeah, that's another reason why. So, yeah, my shit is pretty straight. You know, cut and dry. Ain't nobody going to call me no bandwagon, whatever I'm like, I got the history. I even got pictures to prove it.

DeLaw:

Hey man, sherman Douglas D Brown. Yeah, hey man. Hey, it is what it is.

Wes:

I'm going to say two words to you and you tell me what you think they mean. Hold on, first of all, let me actually type this in to see if I ain't make this, uh, if I made this up or if I got this from somebody, because I'll be doing that sometimes I'll be like, oh, I heard this from someplace and I thought I made. I definitely heard seen this somewhere before. Let me see some hold up, hold up, hold up. Maybe I didn't, I'm just trying to make sure it ain't in Urban Dictionary or something we're going to have to get some of these words in Urban Dictionary and or Webster's.

Wes:

I think you could put an entry in. Alright, fuck it. I apologize if somebody else came up with it before me, but I feel like I did and I ain't seen it nowhere. But these are the two words passive simp what a passive simp yeah hmm, interesting.

DeLaw:

Okay, I don't know a simp, dad don't know he a simp or he just don't give a shit more than ever so what?

Wes:

I would me those two words to me, because I quote, unquote, I came up with this fucking meaning, at least I think I did is someone that knows that they're simping. So you, they not really a simp, they doing it for the how could I put it the benefit of them for the reason that you're supposed to do it.

Wes:

yes, lying basically for this passive simping right benefit of them. For the reason that you're supposed to do it yes, lying basically, but it's passive, something right. When I was thinking about that shit I was like, yeah, I definitely partake in that shit now, like I definitely partake in it, I definitely did it when I was younger. Like you know the shit. Like, oh, you know, I know you got kids, I'm just trying to look out, blah, blah, blah. Y'all need you know, little man needs some cereal and milk and stuff like that. What's the type of cereal she thinking she getting a good dude, this, this and that, like he looking out. But it's like, nah, I have ulterior motives I got a completely weird definition of something.

DeLaw:

I feel like I had this conversation with somebody already and I'm still not. You know me and my ignorance, so I always think these terminologies come from from women.

Wes:

I can tell you that did not come from a woman you can think of.

DeLaw:

Well, for the sake of my argument for what I said to this person. I looked at something as a terminology for a guy that another woman wants and sees he wants someone else and sees he's being used, but she thinks he's just simping, so she's jealous that she's not getting that treatment. And this other woman, who ain't giving it up, is getting the treatment. What is up with?

Wes:

your definition.

DeLaw:

So she's mad that she can't fucking play the dude, even though she's seen the dude get played by another girl right, and so how I was playing to the guy, how, when I was um talking to him that's how I view it coming about and then it turned into this term that everyone just uses. As far as what that was that I just stated of somebody out here really just doing this, this and this and getting played, that's how I always do something.

Wes:

But I don't understand you. Why didn't you just come up with the logical thing like most of us have? It's short for simpleton, and you are a simpleton if you can't see that this girl is playing you, why you got to throw another lady into the situation?

DeLaw:

you said it best love is mine. I'm going to take over your mind.

Wes:

You might not even see you being a simp yes, yes, and that's what makes yes, you don't see you being a simp and in my opinion, in my humble opinion, we all gonna play. You know everybody plays a fool. Right, speaking of another song, once you get played the fool you should know. You should know from that point on, like, how the game is fucking played. So if you continue to fall into that situation, that's kind of on you, man.

DeLaw:

Hey look, I hear people getting called sex all the time. Matter of fact, they called who was that on Power? I don't know. That was your show on Power. The one with the Patrick kid, what's his name? Tyreek? And they were saying with Monet's what is it Otis' son? The one that was Kane Kane. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wes:

Oh, for that reason.

DeLaw:

Yeah, they were calling him a sump because he was paying her tuition, trying just to get in her draws. Oh, he a sump, he trying to get in her draws.

Wes:

My whole thing is Kane got the money right.

DeLaw:

Kane got the money.

Wes:

So that to me in my head that's passive simping Like yo, this ain't I know what the fuck I'm doing. It's not like she like oh well, I actually didn't finish the series, so I would hope it wasn't like I'm just all out of sorts If he just tucking her some money to the side and saying, yo, babe, this is for you, he knows what the fuck he's doing.

DeLaw:

I think that is how it went. She was going to pay for school.

Wes:

Oh, she was saying that.

DeLaw:

Yeah, she kind of opened with like I got to figure out some other way to do this and he's like man, this is the way.

Wes:

I always take care of you. Context to do this and you know I always take care of context always matter and that's why I say passive simping, if you know what you're doing, and you're like yo. This could probably blow up in my face, but, you know, maybe this will give me a chance to, like you know, beat the joint down so I'm gonna do this is simping gender specific hell. No, it's not so, but we say effy was something nah, so I think what women call those type of women?

DeLaw:

they call them pick me's so Effie was a pick me well, I don't know, I ain't finished the fucking series.

DeLaw:

I don't know she was trying to get with Tyreek. It didn't matter what Tyreek did, who he slept with, she was still right there. I said I think that's something right. I'm down for you. Yeah, we're going to do. I said I think that's something right, I'm down for you. Yeah, we're going to do this, we're going to do this. I got you, I got you. Is that not the same thing that came due with her?

Wes:

If I remember correctly I think Effie was just trying to prove that she I don't think was Tariq saying though this is how it's going to be, either get with the program or bounce or was it just one of those things where they just wasn't on good terms? That's totally different.

DeLaw:

I don't know. What do you think?

Speaker 3:

Bennett, I don't know, I'm not even listening to me. Okay.

Wes:

Yeah, I didn't finish the series. I got stars, I just have not finished the show.

DeLaw:

I'm not really sure if it's worth finishing really.

Wes:

I'm on the last drink, I think, but that's besides the point. The passive simping we've all done it. Yeah look, I ain't no wife who was right there. I was about to ask you if you still do that in your marriage it's not called simping in marriage it is.

DeLaw:

I'll tell you how. I'll tell you how to do it. It's called being a husband, babe, what you need. You said you need me to get some food. I got you Right. I mean, look, it's not simping, look one way or another, no matter how you look at it, whether you're simping or you're playing your cards, right to make sure that you get what you want.

Wes:

So it's passive. Simping it's different, yeah, passive. You know what you're doing, so you know what you're doing to play your cards right. You know the outcome. You know the outcomes you're looking for.

DeLaw:

Right.

Wes:

You know, like maybe you don't want to go to this event and you and she's like yo, I would like for you to go. No, let me rephrase that it's not even like yo, she wants you to go to this event.

DeLaw:

She didn't tell me to get myself together.

Wes:

This is how we get in trouble. We are not enthused about the things they want us to do. Right, there's no enthusiasm, there's no eagerness or anything like that. And she said that, hey, that is a problem for me. You act like everything that we do. You're not interested in this, this and that. So in your head you're like, well fuck, I know she like enthusiasm, I know she like you know reactions and shit like that. Very, very next event, boom or whatever. Have you? You putting it all on the table. You like, oh my gosh, I can't wait to do this. I've always wanted to do it. And in the back of your head you're like, yo, this better lead to me having some sloppy ass head later on tonight. Passive symptom, because if y'all wasn't married you would be doing the same thing.

DeLaw:

Fucking interested in all the shit that she interested in all that if I show too much emotion of something my wife wanted to do, she would think something wrong. Who the hell are you? That is possible you are never excited to go do anything. You don't even say the words in your regular vocabulary.

Wes:

If she questions that you did it wrong, you didn't do it well enough for her to be like, okay, he's changing his tune.

DeLaw:

That means I have to gradually do it. I can't do it all in one. No, you have to gradually do it that day.

Wes:

You have to gradually do it that day.

DeLaw:

You'll start with the high emotions. High emotions you lead into like, oh, let's go to the chicken wing festival.

Wes:

You don't do that yeah, you don't do that. It's like the back. Let's just say chicken wing. Let's just say chicken wing festival. Hey, uh, what sauce do you think they're gonna add it? I really hope that they have this type of sauce. I had a sauce in a minute.

Wes:

You step away for a couple minutes or hours or whatever, and you think I should wear this shirt with this. I don't really want to get nothing dirty. You wanted this, this, and that you're showing her that you're interested in going because y'all conversating about it, which you know. Really, you don't really give a fuck about it. Just wait to get back on Passive something, because if you did that, not being married, you just fake an interest with her. You're going through the motions. You're just waiting to get back on. You're waiting to take her back on. That's all you do at the bar. Not you, but that's all men do at the bar. Fake, that's all you do at the bar, not you, but that's all men do at the bar. Fake listening, getting her another drink. Fake listening again. Word, what he did. That, that's crazy. Get a nut drink say the key phrases yeah, the key phrases eye contact, girl.

Wes:

You don't need that, that type of shit, girl you don't need that, that type of shit. That's all I'm trying to say. You don't like my term, you don't like my definition for that.

DeLaw:

I don't know, I'm going to have to use it. Man, he over here be passive-sensory. He done brought her both 50-level drinks. She drunk as shit. Passive-sensory.

Wes:

Listen to me, that's just a more polite way of saying you lying to girls, you selling them a dream. But instead of it being the things that you say by selling them a dream, it's the things that you do. Think about it. Pass it simple you could simping, you could talk, you could say the I guess the simp shit all day. At that point you lying. But when you start doing that shit, yeah, and you know you ain't really about that life. You like look, I'm just trying, I'm trying to play the role as a simp to get what I need, that's what I'm getting there. So says simping life. You like look, I'm just trying, I'm trying to play the role as a simp to get what I need, that's what I'm getting there so since simping isn't gender specific or passive simping, so since we're married, right.

DeLaw:

So the wife brought me a parfait and a smoothie, my favorite smoothie. Does that mean that she's passively simping me to get something from me?

Wes:

listen, I ain't want to snitch on your wife. Yo, that might be it I don't know what's going on over there that? Might be it you know what time it is? Yeah, it might be. It, might be it, might be it. Sprite ain't even gonna really get you a fucking tropical smoothie, yo, let me do this.

DeLaw:

Make sure I solidify for tonight what time it is. Or maybe she might be like maybe if I do this, he'll make lunch for me. Yeah, pour me some chardonnay. Relax and sleep and rest. Listen, we all do it, I guess.

Wes:

I do it at least a couple times a week.

DeLaw:

I don't know if I do it, you do it. You do it If I know I'm trying to get something that night. Oh babe, dinner's ready. What you mean? Dinner's ready. It's only 7 o'clock, dinner's ready. Get your plate, woman, and let's eat so we can go upstairs. You're doing it wrong.

Wes:

This is what you did Dinner's ready, you made her plate. You bought it to her. Come sit down. That's the passive simp shit Like oh he's, but in your head you're like yo, I'm just trying to get you full.

DeLaw:

I ain't got to do that If I'm frying some chicken. You know what was that? Toucan Sam Just followed. No, who followed their nose to the rainbow, or whatever.

Wes:

It was.

DeLaw:

Toucan Sam.

Wes:

I do not remember that. You know that fried chicken, rainbow or whatever, it was Toucan.

DeLaw:

Sam, I do not remember that he's got that fried chicken.

Wes:

I do not remember that.

DeLaw:

It's like Monterey Jack from the Rescue Rangers. Don't know who that is, he's cheese and he, just, she, just kind of floats over to the fried chicken like, oh, oh, he got, oh, oh, and she, look, she give me this. Look like, oh, you trying to get something you know you're my other homeboy.

Wes:

The reference, the references from deep, deep childhood cuts, and I'm like who you don't remember? Toucan Sam. I do, I do, but I didn't. I forgot it was. Follow your note.

DeLaw:

When the last time you seen a Fruit Loop commercial with Toucan Sam, exactly, I ain't even watched TV in so long to see a serial commercial, so I don't even know who the characters are.

Wes:

Neither do I. I don't even know if they are characters anymore. I don't know, I just know. I don't even see Trix commercials like that, no more.

DeLaw:

Look who was that. Mikey, he likes it. What was that? Trix, no.

Wes:

Look, Trix is for kids.

Speaker 3:

What is Trix?

Wes:

Oh shit, that's not what I meant to say. I meant to say tricks. Tricks is the bunny, the rabbit, mikey, he likes it, it's kicks. I don't fucking know, damn, who is that?

DeLaw:

What cereal was this? This was the life oh life cereal.

Wes:

Mikey's commercial. I don't even know what that is.

DeLaw:

I don't even know what have you eaten?

Speaker 3:

life cereal no, you know, I like golden grams.

DeLaw:

I was a corn pops person myself. Corn pops person myself. Corn pops, oh life.

Wes:

cereal, oh the quick yellow box right I mean orange box box with the whatever and cereal.

DeLaw:

Oh, having crunch tricks Golden cereal.

Wes:

Oh, captain Crunch Trix, golden Golden Grahams yeah definitely Golden Grahams.

DeLaw:

I like Golden Grahams and I like Smack.

Wes:

Sugar Smacks. That was. Smack yeah, rice Krispie treats every now and then.

DeLaw:

Rice Krispies. I ain't like the Rice Krispies. It didn't have no flavor to it.

Wes:

Yeah, it'd be dumping a bunch of't like the Rice Krispies. It didn't have no flavor to it. Yeah, it'd be dumping a bunch of sugar into the bowl, bullshit.

DeLaw:

I'm surprised a lot more of us ain't got diabetes.

Wes:

It's coming. Um, it must be eating. It's fucking coming.

DeLaw:

Look, this is my last drink right here. Yeah, alright, 109. If I was listening into the last episode of the podcast, You're like.

Wes:

You're like that guy who yeah this is my first day without beating my meat. Yeah, and keep starting over.

DeLaw:

I told you look, I brought this, I brought a white claw and I brought some chardonnay. Oh, the chardonnay for the white, no, it's for me, she can have some she wants. And it's the black box. You know how the black box is good yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my stuff, yo.

Wes:

So listen to this story of almost. This is kind of borderline simping. Almost. This guy says he wants to know is he wrong for not contributing to his girlfriend's mortgage or moving back?

Speaker 3:

in.

Wes:

That is the title. I know that sounds crazy. I'm going to read it again. Not contributing to my girlfriend's mortgage or moving back in. He wants to know if he's wrong.

DeLaw:

Why did?

Wes:

he move out. It's a stupid, crazy ass story. Last year my girlfriend bought a house and I moved in with her. She has a 10 year old daughter from a previous relationship. Things were going well at first and I was happy to contribute to the household, even though my name wasn't on the mortgage. Uh, we didn't add me to the d because my credit was poor at the time and I already owned a home that I ran out. Here's the part that kind of. The mortgage of the house is around $5,000 per month. Jesus, that's not the shocking part.

DeLaw:

Where they live at.

Wes:

And this is not and the next part is not the shocking part either I was contributing $2,000 monthly.

DeLaw:

I mean, that's almost half.

Wes:

Come on now, that's not my house. Which, which was, which was, which was the most I can afford due to loans, credit card debt and other financial responsibilities. A few months in, she told me she was going to let her ex, her daughter's father, move in and help with co-parenting. Wait what? I wasn't excited about the idea, but I tried to be understanding, since I know how important stability is for their daughter.

DeLaw:

They didn't break up important stability is for their daughter. They didn't break up. Let's just, she said, let my baby daddy come live here so he can crank this joint live here over time.

Wes:

Over time, though, it became clear that the ex still had feelings for her. He was overly familiar and acted like he was still part of the relationship. It made me very uncomfortable and I started to feel like the third wheel and my own home. She doesn't want to kick out her her ex because he helps a lot with their daughter. After a while, I decided to move out on my on my own mental. I decided to move out for my own mental and emotional well-being. Now my girlfriend is upset that I won't move back in or continue contributing to the mortgage. I've told her that I'm not comfortable in living in the same house as her ex and I don't feel like it's fair to keep financially supporting a property I have no ownership for, especially under these circumstances. I care about her daughter, but I also need to look after my own financial emotional health.

DeLaw:

Yeah, you're right so what you're saying is he quietly quit the relationship.

Speaker 3:

He didn't quietly quit, he didn't have to quietly walk off. He could have been like look you fucked up, I got you.

DeLaw:

Like what kind of in the devil's three some of you trying to do right now?

Wes:

It's the nerve of Shorty to be like. You know you still need to be paying. I'm like yo.

Speaker 3:

Right.

DeLaw:

I move in with you Now. The reason for him not being on the mortgage I sort of understand, but it's like, but that's still a tax write-off. It's a tax write-off Because when we got ours, my credit was good. My wife had the money, so it worked out for us that we still got our low rating.

Wes:

But I'm married though. Yeah, nah, they just boyfriend and girlfriend, like the way I look that it is.

DeLaw:

He moved in with her and she said well, I want to have my ex move in with us. All right, that is a do you want me or you want him?

Wes:

that's what it should have been. It ain't even that. It ain't even that. Do you want me or you want him? That's what it should have been. It ain't even that. It ain't even that.

Wes:

See and this is where the passive symptom come in on my part if I was young and in this situation you know, you probably already know where I'm going with this I would have been like yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. I ain't living in another house. When I'm a grown man, I'm still going to move out and I'm a fake like I'm still in a relationship with Shorty because she just tried to play me and I'm a lead-in situation when I'm a fucker in a lead-in situation. So I'm going to play the part. I'm going to crank this joint a couple more times. She's probably doing double duty anyway, so she's used to it. That's the mindset that I'm going through. I'm like oh, you got me fucked up. You think I believe what you're trying to do. You think I'm going to go with this? Yes, I'm going to go with it in your eyes, but I'm out here. I'm out here.

DeLaw:

I guess in my head once Shorty said oh, my ex is moving in, he'll move out, okay, so in his case moved. And he said he still thought he's part of the family. Of course he does, because when you leave to go to work and she get home before you, you can leave up to your imagination at that point.

Wes:

That's. That's. That's a. That's a crazy thing for him to be like. You know what? I know how they need stability.

DeLaw:

She's all about stability and I'm like yo, then she should have stayed with that, nigga I get the co-parenting part but, no, I don't get to live in the get if, if dude didn't live with you, if you were just like, all right, well, we just having fun and we're together, but you know, blah, blah, blah. All right, cool, but I'm not moving in with you. You take care whatever you're going to take care of, but I'm already paying two thousand. I already got my own home that I'm renting out. Then you got another dude to come in here who they never says paying anything, he's just helping with the kids. So now you got. So now I'm paying for another nigga to be here.

Wes:

So context to that apparently the guy does not know how much the girl's ex is paying, but she says he's paying more than him. So in my head I'm like, so why is it not?

DeLaw:

enough money between y'all two.

Wes:

I honestly think they try to trick bag his ass. Nah, they just try to trick bag his ass. She was already fucking a ex and as far as she knows, as far as he knows, the boyfriend, he is the third wheel because he's always been the third wheel.

DeLaw:

So pretty much she got a house, had him move in. It's far paying shit.

Wes:

Mathematically, the next thing they did was him moving her out of his room.

DeLaw:

Out, had him move in.

Wes:

It's for our paying shit Mathematically, mathematically, the next thing that he did was him moving her out of his room, out of her room. That's what was going to happen. She's going to come up with some issues Like I just have problems sleeping, do you think you can sleep in the guest room? And this, this and that, and she's going to have her own. I'm telling you that's what was going to happen.

DeLaw:

I'm still trying to put together the math of how he's paying more. If he's paying two grand, she was already paying three grand. I mean she ain't paying nothing. That means she paying zero and he paying the three thousand plus the utility. Like, because even if it was she paid three thousand, he paid two thousand. The other guy paid the utilities. He's still not paying as much as him listen.

Wes:

Obviously somebody's the passive simp and somebody's the simp well because there's no way we'll move back in with my first of all, move back in with my ex and pay her mortgage with another dude.

Speaker 3:

another dude Like come on.

DeLaw:

Well, you know we're looking from, we're talking from a place of logic, I know. I remember there was a bartender. I used to know an older white lady and she was like, yeah, my boyfriend and my girlfriend all live together.

DeLaw:

We all live together and and her ex lives with them and she pays all the stuff. So whatever she tells them to do, that's what they do and they can't be mad. And she lets and she says they only like. I mean when I say super controlling, to the point where she was, like I put stuff, I tracked their phones, I tracked the vehicles. They better not be where I told them not to be.

Wes:

It was like yeah, ain't, no way, I'm not even putting myself in that situation, man.

DeLaw:

And she was like oh well, if they want to be here, since I pay all the bills, then they got to do whatever the hell I told them to do.

Speaker 3:

It's the cost of selling yourself.

DeLaw:

I was like that's crazy. I mean, it was some point, it would be dudes coming up to the bar to see her. And she's like, oh yeah, that's my little side joint. And you know, I was like, aren't you married? Yeah, he knows about him too. I told him if you want to here, then I'm going to do whatever I want to do. You can't sit with nobody else unless I tell you you can. And I was like that's why, when you said the story, this is an old white lady and I think the dude who came up to the bar was like a younger black dude and I'm like I just looked at this nigga, like nigga.

Wes:

Yo yo, yo, yo yo yo. Let me tell you something about this is a side topic. My yo, my wife, has been uh like started watching a bunch of um not historical documentaries but like uh documentaries on mini docs from people um randomly on youtube about different countries and shit. So I did not know neither one of us knew this that British white women are going to Gambia in Africa, just for a black dick down.

Speaker 3:

What.

Wes:

Yeah, like this is the other side of passport bros, quote, unquote. They going there to have their fun. You know their little fling and shit like that. Sometimes they stand for two weeks and shit like that. Get told lies, Get told fantasy shit, Get some dick. They drop off some money. They on their way. Well, actually this ain't the passport bro. This is what Going to Medellin or Columbia and shit, or the DR. So this is their DR. So I'm sitting there watching the journey with my wife. I'm like yo, they fantasizing the shit out of these men over here, but when they go back to their country they don't want to be seen with a black man. And that shit threw me for a loop. I was just like, nah, I can't believe this shit. But there it was, us watching it, seeing like four or five white women get off a plane and, you know, black guys come up to them and that's who they've been with for the duration of the stay.

DeLaw:

So they're going to Africa to get their black experience?

Wes:

Yeah, I can't even make no jokes about it, because that's exactly what it was. That's exactly what it was that's what it sounds like.

DeLaw:

I need to make sure that before I go home, before I get married, I get the black experience the only thing is that that's what they do on vacation type shit this African lady at my job.

DeLaw:

She would tell me some of the wildest stories about, oh yeah, you know my ex-husband. He was Nigerian and I would never mess with them again. I'm like, why not, they're addictive? And I was like, huh, they're addictive. I was like, oh, oh shit. She's like oh, oh shit. He's like, oh, that thing will make you fall in love and they're some shitty individuals.

Wes:

I was like what One dude during the documentary he was saying that he got the most he got out of a woman was like 60k at a time. Did they got to sleep with him?

DeLaw:

They're piping them down, yeah, and they got to sleep with them.

Wes:

They're piping them down. Yeah, and they're not like they lookers or anything like that they are, they're just hangers Huh.

DeLaw:

They're just hangers yeah.

Wes:

I did say a British white woman, so you can imagine what that looks like. They're not lookers.

DeLaw:

My wife would let me do that to give us. They're not lookers. I don't think my wife would let me do that to give us any 60K they're not coming to America.

Wes:

They're not coming to America for that. Well, yeah.

Speaker 3:

There are a lot of women who go, you know, non-white women who go on vacation and they go, like down to the Caribbean and to different countries and they literally have an escort with them the whole time.

Wes:

Call them out. What's their names?

Speaker 3:

Nope, what's their names? I was scrolling my Instagram and a young lady hinted at that and she was black, I think. She went over to Nepal and same scenario she was there for two weeks. She had a male escort and like, put him in the camera and was like, oh, I got to leave him and you know, kind of was sexualizing him on her post. But same thing, same thing. She was there for two weeks. He was there staying with her at her you know hotel or wherever she was staying for the two weeks and she flat out said she did not want to go and she's thinking about moving there, that's, you know.

Wes:

So that's when passive simping go wrong. When she talking told me I ain't going nowhere, I need the next drink to fall off the plane so I can keep this racket up.

Speaker 3:

I come back in state.

DeLaw:

No mom.

Wes:

Yeah, right, go home.

DeLaw:

But you will always be in my arms. Yo Go ahead and block her on social media and everything.

Wes:

Right. So that is another definition of my meaning of passive simping. They don't mean that shit. They literally being the ladies man and this, this and that just to get to the draws. But in this case they doing that to get to the money.

Speaker 3:

I guess it ain't tricking if you got it yeah, exactly, I'm a.

Wes:

I ain't gonna say I'm a fan of tricking if you got it. Yeah, exactly yeah, I ain't gonna say I'm a fan of tricking if you got it. But yo, yeah, I'm a fan. I ain't gonna lie, I'm a fan. The only reason why I'm a fan is because a woman will use cleavage to get what she wants. Yeah, if her resources is cleavage or fat ass and shit like that and my resources are me being charming and maybe a little bit of money, then yo, hey, if you want some of this charm, a little bit of money, you hungry? I got lots you can eat. Yeah, pretty much. That's not what I was saying, but yeah, but yeah, but yeah, man homeboy in this post, I'm just like god damn man. 5k for a mortgage is a lot. That has to be New York or some shit.

DeLaw:

That has to be New York. Ain't no way it could. Nah, it can't be 5K in New York City.

Wes:

It can't be, because 5K ain't really getting you much, much Like Aunt Kim's old house.

Speaker 3:

They were paying something like that every month, so that could easily be Maryland and one of them big, you know, california houses.

Wes:

Nah, not Kylie, because I can't imagine it being New York if it's going to be three adults in there. So that's out the question.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because those houses are small that's what I'm thinking like a big house because it's the adults plus the daughter.

Wes:

Excuse me, my whole thing is, now that I'm thinking about it, why the fuck he stay with her, like even after he moved out? Like why are you even still talking, like after you didn't, after she didn't propose this? You should have been getting your. Uh, you should have been weaning softball for her right then and there, because all that shit sound crazy. Oh yeah, you gonna move your accent.

Speaker 3:

He might have had the time to get his money to get the leave, especially if she was paying everything.

DeLaw:

He was paying for the mortgage? Yeah, you know what? She probably talked to baby daddy and was like look, this nigga ain't paying what I need him to pay, so you want to move in because I need some help.

Wes:

She ends up paying nothing. This don't make sense.

DeLaw:

Look, we ain't say she didn't pay nothing.

Wes:

Yo, okay, what she paying, like, yeah, I pay the utilities and the house that I got and I got two men, one I'm not involved with and one that's yo. If anything she should. Yo I can tell this is a white couple, because and I don't normally say this when we talk about this you do Yo, she should have just put her ex on child support. If it's really money, put them on child support.

DeLaw:

And if you got that much that he can come in and pay more and pay more than me, you paying more than two racks.

Wes:

Come on now. She fucking him. That's what it is.

DeLaw:

Look when he run a home late from work. I'm going with the fellas, I will keep going. So I've been paying all this damn money. What am I getting for this, besides my daughter? Come on.

Wes:

It's so dangerous to do. Just think it's another. You're living with another grown man. I need some of the sex part. What if one day he just be like I'm going to hook off on this nigga and you sleep and you just wake. Just be like I'm a hook off on this nigga and you sleep and you just wake up to like you know two rights and the left and you're like yo, what the fuck going on. Now he feel like he want you out this house. That's dangerous as shit to even be in that situation before he moved out.

DeLaw:

Yeah.

Wes:

Ain't no way.

DeLaw:

Yeah, I definitely like.

Wes:

And that's just your girl. I would have been moved out. I would have started dating her friend just just for the strength of it. Like yo fucking put me in a situation. I'm about to mess your best right. You put me in a stupid situation like that.

DeLaw:

Y'all don't care about me, Y'all don't care about me for even asking to do this and I can guarantee anyone that he talked to about it. They probably looked at him like huh, wait, and you're still. And she wants you to do what and you're still with who?

Wes:

Oh, no fucking way.

DeLaw:

Mr Cliff already said it should have been gone hell yeah, listen now that I'm thinking about it.

Wes:

I remember when I just started college, this girl was telling a story similar to that, but it was you went to Bowie right I went to a bunch of them.

Wes:

I was at PG, went to Bowie, for I went to a bunch of them. I was at PG, went to Bowie for a little bit, ended up in Maryland, graduated not Maryland UMBC, derivative of Maryland, I guess. So she was like she, she was getting put out of her house, her apartment and shit like that. She had no place to stay with her and her son, her baby father, was about to get apartment and shit like that. She had a place to stay with her and her son, her, uh, her baby father was about to get married and shit. So she asked yo, like yo, I don't have any place to stay, can we move in? And she was like, when she was telling the story, we was in speech 101 or whatever when she was telling and we had a white professor listen to this shit.

Wes:

So when she told the story and shit, um, he was just like shocked, like, oh, my goodness, and what happened? He was like, well, he was. He said he wasn't going to leave us, you know, out in the cold. So we, we, we live there now. And he was like is everything OK? Yeah, there's no problems? And she was like right now, ain't no problems. I'm just like and she being truthful right now ain't no problem, you don't know his fiance gonna be like she needs to move out. I could not. I could, I couldn't even do that. I couldn't do that. Two women one. I ain't dealing with one, I'm dealing with. I'm just gonna have to work on a job to get you in your own spot, because I don't want to hear from both of y'all.

Speaker 3:

I can barely deal with one that chick ain't moving her hand yeah, exactly.

Wes:

And then as a man, as a man, you force the situation. Both of them won't be mad at you.

DeLaw:

The kid cause he's mine.

Wes:

Yeah, he can stay he's about to stay at the shelter. That's what you're going to say cause he's your mama.

DeLaw:

But the kid can stay with me. Why would I? No, no, no, you gotta run the any kid.

Wes:

Mrs Smith ain't having that shit yeah, man, I just don't see in any way how that fucking works. Yo, your girl had to be your ex, got to be dating a stud at that point that's the only way that that works. And that stud got to be coming over to stud her out every now and then. So your wife knows, or your fiance knows she like the fake dick, not the real dick, so it's not a problem.

DeLaw:

It should.

Wes:

You know what, and then that stuff start coming on to your wife and you're like yo, my man, what you doing? Both of y'all need to go Come on.

DeLaw:

now it gets to all other women got to leave. Yeah, I, now you can stay, all other women gotta leave. Yeah, no, I feel you, I think most women will have that, uh, that sentiment now she can't stay you'd be shocked, because I know a lot of white people who are like I said most, most women, be like no, you can't stay I know a lot of white people be like oh man, I don't see nothing wrong with it, we're all really good friends.

Wes:

Yeah, I've heard those stories. Until your ex-girl and your current girl is fucking each other. Then what? And they ain't even let you in on that. Now they kick you out the house and then your boy's like how the fuck you fucked that up? I've heard those stories too. Now your ex-wife and your new joint is getting married. Heard that story? That's crazy.

Speaker 3:

It is crazy yeah, I'm checking my email moral of the story keep everybody on trials yeah, that's moral of the story that is the moral of the story, dude.

Wes:

Passive simping is a thing, and uh, keep everybody on trials and if you're not gonna uh, if you ain't gonna live it cause you got her other dude it's time to break up. Yeah, pussy must damn. I forgot my spiff right there. I was about to say that shit must be fiery, because it's like yo what God still stands.

Wes:

I'm just thinking in my head like yo, you gonna move back in you gonna move in with your ex because you that's just a hypothetical You're going to move back in with Jack. Like I miss that shit so bad. I got to get close to that shit again. And then the other dudes like that shit's so fired that I think I'm going to allow this. That's the only thing I can think of, because there's no fucking way.

DeLaw:

Or or or no that's the only thing I can think of, because even if you were, even if it was like all right, well, he moved back in. What if she was like oh well, you got to stand against him because he sleeps in the room.

Wes:

That's what I'm saying, you setting yourself up for stupid shit like that. You setting yourself up for stupid shit like oh, our daughter just likes to see us as a family and I think he needs to kind of sleep in here some nights just so she can see her dad go to bed with her mom. That's what's next. That's the stupid shit that's going to happen.

DeLaw:

I'll pass it to you, brother. Whoever this guy is, Stay the fuck away.

Wes:

That's what you should do. You're not in the wrong. Go summertime, go develop your team. Something, something other than that.

DeLaw:

It's going to be a hot summer.

Wes:

And for him it better be a hot, wet summer. Stop dealing with that change.

DeLaw:

That's my impression move on.

Wes:

I'm so happy to be married. On that note, I am so happy to be married. I don't want to go anywhere at all. So we thank everybody for tuning in see you next time.