{How Does She Afford That?} How Amanda went from trading her time for money to earning 6-figures in passive income annually
Sep 28, 2023Episode 44
Whitney Morrison
Hey everyone, in this episode, I had the pleasure of interviewing Amanda Horvath, a successful YouTuber who went from running a video production business to making six figures in passive income through her YouTube channel. Amanda shares her journey of transitioning from trading time for money to building an audience and creating her own content. She talks about the importance of lifestyle design and following your intuition in order to create a life of freedom and flexibility. Amanda also discusses the different income streams she has developed through her YouTube channel, including affiliate marketing and online courses. If you're looking to build a successful YouTube channel and make passive income, you don't want to miss this episode!
Key Highlights
[00:01:45] Choosing lifestyle over trading time.
[00:03:40] Taking on high-paying clients.
[00:07:11] Starting an online course.
[00:11:01] Passive income on YouTube.
[00:16:52] Passive income and affiliate revenue.
[00:19:26] Transition and Financial Implications.
[00:24:26] Personal finances during income dip.
[00:26:48] The power of YouTube.
[00:31:42] Taking Risks for Success.
[00:33:13] Passive income online.
Notable Quotes
Short-term loss for long-term gain
Life is short. If I continue doing what I'm doing right now, I could potentially never get over to the other side of the quadrant where the 1% lives, where they have time and they have money.
Don't learn via trial and error if you don't have very long of a runway.
Every single source of passive income starts off as an active income stream.
You have to be willing to risk it in order to make it happen.
The goal of my life is not to have a successful business. The goal of my life is to have a stress-free life that I enjoy living the way that I want to live.
Hey everyone, in this episode, I had the pleasure of interviewing Amanda Horvath, a successful YouTuber who went from running a video production business to making six figures in passive income through her YouTube channel. Amanda shares her journey of transitioning from trading time for money to building an audience and creating her own content. She talks about the importance of lifestyle design and following your intuition in order to create a life of freedom and flexibility. Amanda also discusses the different income streams she has developed through her YouTube channel, including affiliate marketing and online courses. If you're looking to build a successful YouTube channel and make passive income, you don't want to miss this episode!
Key Highlights
[00:01:45] Choosing lifestyle over trading time.
[00:03:40] Taking on high-paying clients.
[00:07:11] Starting an online course.
[00:11:01] Passive income on YouTube.
[00:16:52] Passive income and affiliate revenue.
[00:19:26] Transition and Financial Implications.
[00:24:26] Personal finances during income dip.
[00:26:48] The power of YouTube.
[00:31:42] Taking Risks for Success.
[00:33:13] Passive income online.
Notable Quotes
Short-term loss for long-term gain
Life is short. If I continue doing what I'm doing right now, I could potentially never get over to the other side of the quadrant where the 1% lives, where they have time and they have money.
Don't learn via trial and error if you don't have very long of a runway.
Every single source of passive income starts off as an active income stream.
You have to be willing to risk it in order to make it happen.
The goal of my life is not to have a successful business. The goal of my life is to have a stress-free life that I enjoy living the way that I want to live.
Hello and welcome to the Holistic Money Podcast. I'm your host, certified financial planner and money mindset coach, Whitney Morrison. Over the past seven years, I've taken myself from credit card debt and no savings to a seven figure net worth. I did this without a budget or a restrictive money plan, but instead smart, sustainable wealth building strategies combined with changing my relationship with money. In this podcast, you'll learn the ins and outs of my no budget philosophy, practical wealth building strategies, and key mindset shifts to make it happen. There is no shortage of information out there to tell you what to do with money, but teaching you how to think and feel about money, that's my secret sauce. If you've been waiting for a podcast that gives you actionable strategies to not only build wealth, but also feel really good while you're doing it, then you're in the right place. Let's get started. Hello, and welcome back to the holistic money podcast. Today's episode is part three of the, how do they afford that series? In this series? I am interviewing creative entrepreneurs. Who are living non-traditional lives and who have money, making businesses that align with their passions and values. It's those people that you see online that you ask yourself, how in the hell are they making their lives work financially? They're either people that are traveling all the time or seem to have bought multiple real estate properties or developing retreat centers. Naturally when we see people living outside of the standard mold of what we've been taught is normal to do with our money and our life. Our brain gets curious. We want to know how these people are making their lives work. So that's the whole point of this series. In today's episode, I am interviewing first and foremost, a really good friend. I'm interviewing Amanda Horvath. She's a YouTuber and human design expert. In this episode, we're going to pull back the curtain to learn how Amanda went from working 50 plus hours a week. Trading her time for money to earning over six figures in passive income. Be a, her YouTube channel. You're going to hear the inspiring story of how Amanda chose to let go of the security of her job. To build this YouTube channel that now has over 65,000 subscribers. We're diving into the details of her financials, as well as the pivots she's made to monetize her channel while working less than 20 hours a week. This episode was a huge eyeopener for me. I'm in the middle of building my YouTube channel as well. And I aspire to be where Amanda is at some point in my journey as well. i hope you enjoy this episode let's dive in Amanda Horvath, welcome to the podcast. Woo! So excited to be here. Yes, I am so excited to have you because the world is curious. We want to know how you went from, having a business as a videographer trading your time for money to now having a YouTube channel that makes you Six figures and passive income. We want to know the transition on how you actually made this happen in your life. So can you just tell me about how you made the decision number one to give up this videographer business? Cause you were making good money doing that, right? I had made it over. 200, 000 in that business. Yeah. So how did you make the decision? Cause that's a big income to give up in order to go do something like, Oh, I'm going to build a YouTube channel. So it started with lifestyle design. I read four hour work week, which. Planted the seed of what if you didn't have to take the traditional path of making money and then also read books like Robert Kiyosaki's cashflow quadrant and learned, okay, so the one person of the population that makes money that also has time in their life. They're doing it in a very different way than trading time for money. I had a successful business and. I was trading time for money and it was like, oh my gosh, like I justified spending my early twenties doing that, but I saw, I think it was like 26. I had an ex boyfriend actually pass away on my birthday at 36, which woke me up to wow. Life is short. Sure. I'm mid twenties. But if I continue doing what I'm doing right now, I could potentially never get over to the other side of the quadrant where the 1 percent lives, where they have time and they have money. So how do I actually make this jump? And it came down to. I had to take the job, like I just had to do it. And, and I knew that if I continued trading time for money, I would have a very limited amount of time to be able to spend on building this new type of business. So once I made this choice, I was like, I'm going to do this. I set an end date. That I would not take clients beyond that date. And that was definitely a scary decision. And it continued to be a scary decision until I saw what I was working on payoff. So I think the first thing that I want to highlight is like making this transition. It's not like you go from making 200, 000 in this one business to now making 200, 000 in the other. You have to have an income dip before. Like as you are transitioning and I've gone through several of those now, which we'll get into. Yeah. So tell me how did you manage that income dip financially? I had clients from my previous business that instead of offering video production Services I would do consulting And I didn't get that many consulting clients, but it was enough to like, feel like, okay, that was a big chunk of money that just came in. Right. Oh, I just got however much for this three hour session. Like that was great. But I started noticing, okay, Amanda, you're still trading time for money and you're still having to spend time marketing. This one product. So instead of spending time marketing, I thought, okay, you know what? Maybe what I could do is create, get one client that's paying a higher amount of money to, so I'm not marketing myself. And I could just spend basic, like a, a little bit of time on delivering this service for this person and the rest of the time on my thing. I ended up getting a client that was going to pay me 5k a month, which is what I aim to pay myself every month in the business in general, pay 5k a month for two months of helping him launch his YouTube channel, which was in alignment with the kind of course that I wanted to create. And so I basically was paid to do R and D research and development to develop. This course, that client never paid me. I made the mistake of not collecting money upfront. And so in some ways it was like, cool, well that just happened, you know, but it made me make the leap even though I didn't get the income. So don't make that mistake just because you're so excited to have landed someone. this is a good thing to talk about because I think a lot of people can Think that going from like you said like a corporate job to an entrepreneur You're gonna make money quickly. The business is gonna pick up quickly, which would be amazing if that happened We're not opposed to that happening, but it's often not the case I think when you really look at entrepreneurs and their first year or two to really getting into business You want to expect that you have a baby business that's making Small amounts of money and you don't want to put a lot of pressure on it So the way you really made this transition was all right. I'm gonna take on one client They're gonna pay me a fixed amount of money, which is gonna give me more time to put towards my YouTube channel So tell me about starting your YouTube channel How long did it take you to go from zero followers to actually starting to make some money on YouTube? The YouTube channel actually happened while I was still running my video production business. I knew that I wanted to start building an audience before I made this leap. So, just to kind of back up for a quick second, what I ended up doing... Really became the motto for my YouTube channel because your mess is your message. That's what I always say. My, the mess that I was dealing with was like, okay, I spent all this time creating everyone else's content. I don't have time to spend or money to spend on me creating my own content. So how do I create videos without breaking the bank or taking up tons of my time? So really, that was what my YouTube channel is about. While I was still very much trying to figure out how to do this myself. So I, I created a very simple, sustainable approach for creating content. I would film once per month, four videos per month and outsource the editing. I would say I would outsource 80 percent of the editing and do the final 20 percent tweaking paid like 7 an hour for an outsourcer. So it wasn't amazing. That's why I would go in and kind of like. Have, have a little bit more hands on in the post production process. It wasn't a hundred percent hands off. And that I did that for two years prior, or actually, sorry, I did it only for about a year before passing off my entire business to my subcontractor. I had, I think less than a thousand subscribers when I made this leap. So it wasn't like my channel was huge yet. It took me one year to get to. 1200 subscribers over, let's say like this at six months, I had 500 subscribers at 12 months. I had 1200 at 18 months cause I would count it every six months. I had 2200 so that from one year to six months, it was like an extra leap when I had stepped out. To kind of start moving this along. And then when I launched my first online course, I had 4, 400 subscribers, which was, I started my channel in June, 2018. And that was in January of 2020 that I launched my course. So 2018, I started the YouTube channel, 2019, I passed off all my subcontractors to start spending time building my. For the rest of 2019 while also getting these clients, these like get one client, have them pay me more. And then 2020 this year, it was like, I am a hundred percent making money. Online, which was a great year to choose to do that because obviously no need to explain what happened in 2020. Right. So at 4, 400 subscribers, you decide to build this online course and had you made money on YouTube previously, or was this like you got to 4, 400 and then had your first launch and that's when you first started to make. Make money on YouTube. Yeah. So I hadn't sold anything really. It had increased the leads coming into my business from a local business standpoint of doing video production for people. Um, I say within eight weeks, I got my first speaking gig. Um, within six months I was shaking the hands of other industry professionals and within a year, I forget what the milestone was that I said at that point in time. I think that there is a benefit to give, give, give, give, give, and then ask. And I had given so much and I had really built rapport with my audience. And so when I launched my offering and mind you, I didn't just willy nilly launched this thing. I paid for an online course, quite a bit of money to learn how to. Launch a webinar or have a webinar that launches an online course and a very strategic email marketing campaign on the backside of it in order to make it successful. So I think that's another thing that a lot of people mess up is like, well, I don't have money to invest in a course. Well, no, you're an idiot. If you don't true, like, yeah. Don't learn by via trial and error. If you don't have very long of a runway, like spin the money, it's worth the money. So tell me about this first launch. So you buy this course, you get ready, you launch and how did it go? It went really well. It was, I had, and I even have the numbers that I can, I can pull up if you want me to, but I think I had 1200 people on my email list at the time. So 4, 400 subscribers, 1200 people on my email list or something like that. Um, I had been emailing that list every single month or every single week when I launched a YouTube video. So I had that relationship built with them. Hadn't asked anything. I announced this webinar, I think five. Maybe 300 people signed up for the webinar and I did four. So those 300 people spread out against across four, possibly 500. It was a very high conversion rate because I hadn't asked anything and it was a very warm audience that wanted a solution and I very much pitched this as a bingeable course that you can watch in a weekend to Solve your video problems. So it was positioned well in the market. And yeah, I think I made 17, 000 on the first launch which is a really really great first launch for an online course so you launched this course on YouTube, but now your YouTube followers are Somewhere above like 60 70 thousand. So can you walk us through? 4, 400 subscribers first course launch to now being in a very different place and one of the things is Your course business now is only one stream of income that you make off of your YouTube. And this is what I really want to talk about and go in depth with you today is all the ways that you are making money passively on YouTube because now you work how many hours a week? What'd you say? 20 or under. 20 or under. And you have six figures in passive income, more or less, coming in through this YouTube channel. And this is one of the things about passive income that I think a lot of people don't actually realize, that it is active until you can make it passive. I think every single source of passive income starts off as an active income stream. Like, you worked on this channel for almost two years before you even asked one thing of your followers. To really drill this point home to, I really wasn't doing Instagram. Like I, like at one point I flirted with it, but there was never a moment in time that I was consistently posting and playing that game. So it truly was. YouTube plus an email list, which a lot of people don't talk about, but you can do it. I'm on the YouTube game now, obviously. Um, and, and in that first year, you know, that first year and a half. To to start to build the channel and starting to take my foot off the gas on Instagram has felt so relieving I wish I would have done this sooner. I know you've been telling me this for since I've freaking met you so Everybody listen to Amanda and buy her course. Okay, so tell us 4, 400 subscribers to now almost 60 70, 000 subscribers and multiple streams of income through YouTube Walk me through that. Yeah. So 2020 was great for my channel because I taught video online and obviously what did people need to do on 2020? Oh, shoot. I have an in person business that just fell apart. I need to go online and I need to start building this online presence. So I was fortunate in once again, the positioning of it. So I think in general, if you're someone that feels, and this is like. Another thing that I talk about a lot is basically following your intuition and following your gut response and following like Not what you should be doing but this like innate knowing that you have in your body I knew that video was the next thing I remember convincing people This is where you need to go like litter and they were they were saying like Everyone looked at video is like this fun thing that they'll do once they figure everything else out in their business And then 2020 came along and it was like, I was well positioned. I had taken the leap. I had trusted that intuition to say, no, this is what people need. And then when people came around to it. I was there. So I really benefited. I think I ended up that year at like 22, 000. So I went from 4, 400 to 22, 000 just within 2020. Wow. From a subscriber standpoint. And I was very actively, like I was very much focused on all my income will be the course business. Now I did throughout that time start making money in affiliates and I was like, wait, look at this. Like I, I had was promoting products on Amazon. I think I was making a thousand dollars a month at Amazon at one point, um, consistently just from promoting things. Because if you promote something. From an Amazon link, someone clicks on it. If they add anything to the cart within the next 24 hours, you get the money from that, which is insane. I monetized my YouTube channel and that started making me a thousand dollars per month. Um, and you know, it was a slow growth. Like it started at 300. Can you tell us what it means to monetize your YouTube channel? 4, 000. Hours of watch time and a thousand subscribers. So it takes some time to build up. And the reason they do that is because before that you're making pennies and it's inconvenient for them to have to pay you pennies. And so they just wait until it's going to be like significant income for you to monetize. Um, and then really all you do is turn it on and Google sends you it. Well, they used to send you a check. Now it's just a deposit in your bank account. So every, every year, every month, like here's, here's how much I'm making. And it's been consistently a thousand dollars. Until recently when I began to kind of change some things on my YouTube channel, which is another pivot when you have to expect revenue to drop again. So you added affiliate income, which is where you were just selling Amazon products. And then you decided to monetize your channel. And you also had the course that was still available I also started doing human design readings, which is this other hobby that kind of started as a side hustle. And I decided to co host a mastermind group with my human design teacher and launch it to my audience that made me about 15, 000 thousand and then I also began. Doing one off coaching sessions. So in every single YouTube video, Hey, want to book a session with me? They could book one hour. They don't, they didn't have to book again. Like it was just a one off touch base with me that made me 23, 000. The course pulled in 40, 000 compared to a hundred thousand a year before because. There was some payments coming in from the year before still for the first six months of the year. And then I eventually got it on evergreen, meaning it was selling all the time, but it wasn't as significant of a revenue stream because I got way more passive with it. But still, that was truly 40, 000 passive income, yeah. So you literally just had to make your weekly content on YouTube, keep that up and people would find you watching a webinar and then go through an email series and buy the program while you are staying at home with Mav. and then I also made 30, 000 just in affiliate revenue, which was what made me realize, wow, I made 30, 000 in affiliate revenue, a hundred percent passive income from people clicking links. And then 40, 000 in my online course. So maybe I should be considering. Like maybe looking extra hard at this affiliate thing. And when it came to the affiliate products, how did you choose what it was that you were going to sell or promote? They have to be aligned with your brand. Mine is obvious because it was video. So I would promote microphones. I would promote software, editing software. I would promote different stock footage, websites or music or anything like that. I was recently, you know, my husband, uh, we originally met because he was interested in video. He still has never started this YouTube channel, but every once in a while he's like, You know, I've been thinking about it. And just last night he was, he is a, uh, in the consumer packaged goods and is all about health and promoting products. And he goes, yeah, the other day I sent someone this product that I use and they ended up buying it. And so I Googled product plus affiliate name, and then I realized they had an affiliate product and I could have made money from that sale. And so I'm like, yeah, exactly. Like that's all it is, is you search the product that you like plus affiliate program and you sign up and become an affiliate. Then when you have an online presence on top of that, every YouTube video, you link it in the description, it becomes super passive. Yeah. Wow. So that's pretty incredible. So that's three income streams off of maybe four. Are we at three or four income streams? Yeah, it was human design, coaching, online products, which is my course affiliate and ad revenue. The only active of those was coaching, which was 23, 000 and that year was 117, 000 revenue total. So really looking at that, coaching was probably one of the more active income streams. Everything else started to get pretty passive and really the main work that you're doing is releasing one YouTube video every week, which I was doing, which I was filming once per month and outsourcing the editing. Right. So it was. Like each week I was giving notes on edits, but I wasn't shooting videos. Like Instagram, you're required to shoot every single week, right? This was even more passive in terms of that as well. Right. So something to consider. So now you're going through a bit of a transition on your channel and a transition in your life. And I want to talk about that because I think this is a. Quite normal path that entrepreneurs go through in their business around years three to five and, there can be a lot of financial implications of this. And so I want to talk with you about how you're starting to change your business and how it's impacted you financially. So becoming a mom is one of the biggest transitions you could ever go through in life. And then in addition to that, throw your Saturn return on top of that, which is this period from 28 to 32, which if you're older than that, think back to that stage in your life and think about the craziness that occurred during that time. Um, it is a time when essentially your life gets shook and anything that isn't meant to be there falls away. So those two combinations. In addition to finding out about the system called human design, which essentially pushes you to lean fully into following your intuition or following your gut response or your emotional system or whatever it is. Everyone has a unique way of going about making decisions and the system breaks it down. I, all three of those created this tornado in my life that was like no more, like nothing that is. misaligned with my energy or anything that is misaligned with my energy has to go. So I have now gone through this transition. I'm coming out. I have an 18 month old and in many ways have let go of anything that feels heavy, including, I really haven't promoted my online course at all since it went evergreen. Um, I stopped doing Facebook ads because it felt like That wasn't really working. So for a little bit of time I did Facebook ads, but it seemed like a waste of money. And so I just let it do its own thing and it still brings in money. And then, yeah, haven't really done too many active launches either. And I, my revenue has definitely dropped in terms of this year. So far I'm sitting at about 70, 000 revenue, 40, 000 profit, which in previous years, you know, it's been 85, 000 profit or something like that It's, it's been an interesting transition and at the same time I'm all about it. Yeah, because you, you're also transitioning the content on your channel as well. Right. It's not, it's not just the way that you're working. Like, I actually really liked the fact that you said that your YouTube brand, your YouTube channel is driven by your message and your message normally comes from your mess. Like your message, your message. And for a while, what you were really trying to figure out was how do I build and grow a YouTube channel? And you've kind of figured that out and now you're starting to move into a Different part of yourself and you're starting to create content that honors that it's like really discovering this So tell us about that decision because yes, you have experience in income dip this year, but it's in service of being Something greater. Yeah, I actually have a video coming out next week called and this title might change But it's being myself ruined my life The idea is like what I started doing was no matter what I said is this truly me and they say Good is the enemy of great and. Yeah, I've been making good money and yeah, I have this course business and a part of me is like, what if I could literally just like, don't even need to create an offer and I just create videos and that's exclusively how I make money because right now there's still some other things that I'm navigating and I'm not 100 percent sold on it, but I'm just watching things unfold moment by moment. I no longer initiate anything in my business because according to human design, that's, that's how I should go about this experiment of life and see that would get me in alignment with my purpose. I operate a hundred percent off invitations. I feel into my intuition of whether those invitations are aligned or not. And I look at the amount of energy that it takes to execute on whatever those invitations are. are that are coming in and make a decision from there. So I'm really prioritizing motherhood and my channel is beginning to educate others on how to do this for themselves so that they can get on their unique path. Because my path, what I just described looks different than Whitney's path and how, how she's going to approach this, right. And looks different from my spouse's path or whoever else, right? So now my channel is really kind of taking on. of that feminine essence rather than the masculine essence. tech business kind of approach. Well, also that is still there, you know, it's like the feminine approach to business. Yes. So how has that impacted your personal finances? Because you have taken a dip in income. How have you made it work for yourself personally with your money, with this dip in income? So when I was about six months postpartum, I, I did three months entirely. Didn't even think about it in the fourth. And I had batch recorded all of my YouTube videos so that my videos would continue. My business could continue running in the background, bringing in affiliate revenue, bringing in ad revenue. My nothing changed necessarily except for me not actively creating videos or showing up on coaching calls. So in at the six months postpartum, like I was feeling very overwhelmed. I even have a video that I still haven't released where I'm like, Crying on camera, like motherhood and business so hard, how do you manage this? And I was like, you know what? How I need to manage this is I just need to make an offer and land long term coaching clients. Previous to this point, I had no ongoing one to one clients. I would do one to one sessions, but I didn't. Have people that I would consistently meet with and I decided, you know what, why not do this? So I made one video and this is the benefit of having an online presence for a YouTube channel. I was like, Hey, here's an idea. I want to work with people that I'm their ICA, AKA I can learn what you have to share with the world and tell you this is valuable and this is not valuable. And I'm going to do it through the lens of your human design. And so I basically like said who my ideal client was and I said, book a call with me. Well, within like four hours, I had to change it from book a call with me to fill out this form because I had already 30 calls booked or something like that. And it totally overwhelmed me going through those sales calls. But I landed, I chose five people that was the max that I wanted. And I worked with them for the next six months. And one of them I'm still working with. Um, my goal was not to have ongoing clients, but to get them up and running launch and then step away. So that really helps me have that consistent revenue on a monthly basis with still relatively minimum commitment. It was five, five people at four hours a month plus Voxer access. So, you know, technically only 20 hours a month of active time with them, but that does take up bandwidth for all you coaches that are out there. You know how that works. You lay in bed thinking about your clients, how to get the results. So you just put out one video and then you were able to generate revenue and this is Another benefit of having that online presence like you said one video and then how much did that one video make you? Roughly 37 and a half. Yeah. That's really exciting. One video, 37 grand right there. The power of YouTube. So let's talk about some of your personal plans where I just want to know you've You built this YouTube channel. What are you doing with your money now? The money that you're making from your business personally. My husband and I are coaching with Whitney cause she's freaking amazing and you guys should totally work with her. She's a good friend and also a coach. It's funny. Like whenever I introduce you, I like, I'm like, she's my money coach and she's a good friend. Like it's both. Um, so my husband and I are very inspired by what Whitney's doing and how she's Developed her primary residence to make money and you know, she's created basically 8, 000 passive income just off of that every single month, which is incredible. And we're really looking to invest in property and be able to build a similar lifestyle in addition to this other entrepreneurial venture. And I love it because. My husband just recently admitted as well. We both really love being at home and having flexible schedules. Like he, even he is now realizing, Oh, maybe I don't want to get back to like crazy hustle, entrepreneurship, working for capital venture, like having a venture capitalist invest in his business, but do it more in a bootstrapped way and create more of that lifestyle. Thing. And so, and we want to have more kids too. And so we're planning second baby timelines. And so with the money that we're making, we're really aiming to essentially move where Whitney has already developed. And now she's moving to where I, I have developed this business and kind of build the two on top of each other. So that's really the goal. Yes, I interviewed someone recently and she said this so beautifully. She said, the goal of my life is not to have a successful business. The goal of my life is to have a stress free life that I enjoy living the way that I want to live. And I loved hearing her say that because I do think that once you really ground into that and settle into that, you start making decisions a little bit differently. Like you intentionally deciding, Hey, I'm going to work 20 hours a week. I'm going to be a mom. Me and my husband, we're looking for a land to build passive income on our land. These things are all possible. This life design that you talked about. Is all possible. But first you have to be willing to see that I can get off the grind, the hustle, and I could actually build. It does take work to get there though. Like let's be real building this YouTube channel, building my portfolio of properties and my business. It's taken work to get here, but on the other side is where you can start to experience that freedom, that passive income and that. More time. Let's wrap up this podcast with you giving our listeners a piece of advice. Someone that's thinking, Hey, I want to be where Amanda is. I want to have this YouTube channel with 60, 000, 70, 000 followers. I want to be able to make one video and make 38, 000. What would you tell them? I'm going to piggyback on what you said. I would. I would say that it's so easy to look at where I'm at right now and think I want that. But if you're currently in a tech job and you're making 150, 000, which a lot of my friends do, and you're not running your own business and you have healthcare and you have these, these kind of creature comforts to a degree reliable income. And you look at mine and think, Oh, I want that. You have to be willing to give up the security. In order to get there, which is scary. Like I live on risk and I value my freedom more than security in a way. And of course I value security, right? I'm making smart decisions, but I'm also doing it in a way that is still risky. And so you have to be willing to risk it. In order to make it happen. And yeah, I don't want to say you have to be willing to work hard, but you have to be committed because consistent effort over a period of time, even when you're valuing lifestyle, like I actually think one of the best things that you can do is to say, if I only want to work three days per week, why don't I start working three days per week now? Because then I have to make decisions that allow me to do that. And one of the best ways to do that is to have a baby. You just don't have the option, which I just happen to do. But yeah, I think those two things is like, can you start living the lifestyle that you want right now and take that risk in order to get to where I am right now and then see the upside from there. Short term loss for long term gain. Yes. All right, Amanda, where can people find you if they're inspired by your work and want to see more of you? Head to Amanda, to youtube. com and go to Amanda Horvath's channel and subscribe and then also on any of the videos when you click on the description, you'll see a ton of different options for Um, how to get into my world in terms of my email list, there's really two main opt ins, the quick start guide to human design. So if you're interested in how to live in alignment with your energy and not have to be the hustle culture, then I would highly recommend that one or the quick start guide to video. If you want to get up and running with starting your YouTube channel, watch that both a three part video series, 15 minutes bingeable content, or there's also my. Webinar, which is no joke. Took me over a hundred hours to put together. It's really, really good for someone that wants to get on the fast track to having a successful online business. I talk about the whole journey. Um, that's called four steps to master video and make money online. You can also watch that. That'll get you on my email list and then stay on it. Let's be friends. Awesome. Let's be friends. Y'all go check out Amanda's work. I promise you it's changed my life. It'll definitely help you on your path to passive income, especially online. Thank you so much for listening today. 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