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Kaiju Collision: Breaking Down "Godzilla X Kong" and MonsterVerse Madness
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Prepare for a titanic tussle of opinions as we dissect the colossal "Godzilla X Kong New Empire," balancing our love for monster mayhem with the human tales that anchor them. We'll take you through a journey of kaiju lore, the epic clashes that had us on the edge of our seats, and the longing we felt for more of Godzilla's iconic atomic breath. From the rising prominence of Kong to speculations on future Earth-defending dynamics between the two behemoths, this episode is a battle royale of thoughts you wouldn't want to miss.
Strap in for a roller coaster of nerdy banter as we navigate the Monsterverse continuity, sharing our gripes about Hollow Earth's time inconsistencies and the static aging of its human storytellers. Expect a deep dive into the significant roles of legacy characters, a nod to Marvel's Kurt Russell, and the intertwining of TV show lore. The chapter takes a lighter turn as we rank our favorite kaiju, chuckle over less fearsome creatures like Godzuki, and explore the cultural resonance of Godzilla Jr.'s transition to ruler of the roost.
Wrap up your day with a dose of laughter as we play with the cultural phenomenon that is kaiju through Pokémon references, Star Wars lightsaber duels, and a volley of cheeky memes. We're not just talking giant monsters; we're discussing the entire universe of pop culture, from nostalgic Harry Potter film debates to scratching our heads over the Star Wars franchise's current path. So, pull up a chair, pop in those earbuds, and join us for a monstrous episode that's as entertaining as it is enlightening.
One and all. Welcome to the Nightfallsville Podcast. Godzilla X Kong New Empire Review Big monsters or, as Matt likes to call it, frozen Empire. For it too, big monsters, big monsters. It has nothing to do with Frozen Empire, it doesn't. It doesn't have anything to do with Ghostbusters. It does have something to do with.
Speaker 1:Frozen Empire did not bring about a new Ice Age. They tried, at least not in New York. Yeah, in Rio de Janeiro by the statue of Jesus. We're just dominant Toretto. When you need him, he froze, he froze. You need him, he froze, he froze.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, what do we got for this one? Surprisingly, I know we enjoyed the hell out of it. Yeah, there was enough action and story in there. It's not like they just bored us with the human element. The human element was a little better. I still didn't care that much. I still was like Each one gives you a little bit of lore. Can I get some monsters? I enjoyed the lore they gave me this time and I was waiting for it.
Speaker 1:The first 20 minutes or so dragged a little bit for me. I won't lie, I'm only seeing Godzilla for like two minutes at a time the whole time. Just because you're not the biggest Kong fan. Yeah, I'm like I don't hate Kong. I learned to like him a little bit more. I'm like where's Godzilla? The problem is Kong needs his own movie, like Skull Island again Just takes place in Hollow Earth, and Godzilla needs his own solo film again. The problem, more recently, is the fact that you named these last two movies, godzilla and Kong, and the title for both of them, and Kong's the main character Pretty much. Yeah, that's probably where I was like this is Godzilla, kong is like this movie is basically a Kong movie, which, whatever Kong's had this is movie is basically a Kong movie, which, whatever Kong's had three solo movies.
Speaker 1:Godzilla had one, what Two? What about King of the Monsters? I mean, I'm not saying Godzilla's got two. Kong wasn't in that one. I don't count the enemy monster. Technically it was at the end. You know what. You're actually kind of right, because you know that wasn't even his movie. That was Ghidorah's. Yeah, speaking of which King Ghidorah, oy, yoy, yoy, actually they don't have a pop of that one, do they? No, I don't think Ghidorah has a pop. He didn't even get a pop. Godzilla vs Kong was the first ones that started getting pops. I don't think King of the Monsters had pops Pops, which was funny. But now he's got a million pops. It should, because he's cute, he looks menacing but he's so merchandisable. Then King of the Monsters didn't get pops from King of the Monsters, no, that's the only one. Yeah, it didn't get. Yeah, it got Mothra. It even had Rodan in that movie too. Yeah, rodan Three of the classic with Nora, they gave us a very nice new addition.
Speaker 1:Shimo was a very nice new addition. Sparking was a very nice new addition. Sparking was a bit of a letdown. I think they fucked up with Shimo. What do you mean? Fucked up with Shimo? I like Shimo. Shimo was You're fine, but I Don't fuck up with Shimo.
Speaker 1:I think if you had added to the mythos of Shimo being part of why Dodoro was frozen oh yeah, it was kind of implied. Where, when was it implied? Implied the backstory, the Ice Age and all that they never shared at all. How Ghidorah was frozen, no, it's just Ancient Titan. That's the best you get. Everything's speculation, I understand where he's coming from. That's the best you get. Yeah, everything's speculation, I understand where he's coming from. Shimo is kind of.
Speaker 1:You gave us more backstory on how powerful Skar King was and they made him look like a Thank you. What I would have liked is more explanation on how that crystal was controlling her. I think it was part of her, yeah. So basically the crystals that were glowing on her back, that's the best I got. They were glowing every time it glowed. It didn't control her, though it looked like it was hurting her. It looked like it was causing her pain. It controlled her with pain. How the hell does that work? Whatever the actor activating the crystal activated Even when Scararking was introduced, in his first little tussle with Fong Fong won the exchange until Crystal.
Speaker 1:I'm like this is not building up Skarking at all. He is horrible. Somehow him and his army understand about Zula, how they didn't even Somehow him and his army on Godzilla using Shimu. They didn't bring up Kimu until after he was trapped in the story In the murals, shimu oh in the murals Fighting with him and Godzilla was just him and the army. And it said after Godzilla trapped him that he found Shimo.
Speaker 1:Godzilla vs Kong murals it was just Kong vs Godzilla, but in this one in the mural, he was riding Shimo. Yeah, after he was trapped, I can't remember for sure he was leaping. I don't remember if Shimo was in there, but I don't remember for sure. I can confirm on Tuesday. There you go, go ahead. Shima was kind of just that's the only sucky part about her how docile she came afterwards too. She's just a big bugle, which I like. Dan, you're bigger than Godzilla, but still a big old buggy. And now they just got a squad and just as old. Now they just got a squad to protect Earth. They got Godzilla, shimo.
Speaker 1:Godzilla takes care of the upper Earth and he takes care of the upper earth and he takes care of hollow earth, which is the reverse of what it should be. Because, as far as lore goes, in the movies the Kongs protect humans and Godzilla fights the Titans. Godzilla don't give a, he just wants all the smoke. He don't give a fuck he humans, he just want all the smoke. He'll give him the fuck. He don't, he don't. But he hurts the humans, not intentionally, he's trying to get with him. They're gnats, they're flies. They're trying to get to the monster. He's trying to get to the other monster.
Speaker 1:The setup for this movie, though, kind of retcons king of the monsters, because not a goddamn one of the monsters. But listen to Godzilla. Well, I'm not even saying that. I'm saying like weren't they all bowing to Godzilla at the base. And now they're still wreaking havoc and Godzilla's gonna still whip their ass. Hey, calm down. So it's like Showing up on scene should be them just like. Alright, I'm done. So either Godzilla's a shitty king or they're not keeping any of their lore that they've already had.
Speaker 1:Well, he's sleeping too much. He wasn't sleeping when the crab went off. That crab was like I'm gonna fuck up Rome. I don't even know what the fuck. That one was called Scylla. His name was Scylla and it goes and fucks with TM.
Speaker 1:Tm. I, not my TMI. I'm sorry, I could meme the fuck out of this movie. I could meme the fuck out of it like in a good way, in a bad way. Tm. I wasn't doing nothing, chilling in my cave. What the fuck? Sorry, I need your radiation. I need your shit. I need your radiation. I need your shit. I need some trees. Let's make the most gangster thing ever. I'm going to roll up on your home and take your shit. All of mine's got their own little ones. How'd you get out of there? Then add in a little Lumberjack Kong in your fucking Lumberjack Kong. I'll just and he's got the beard. Hey, kong's got this crush. Yeah, I think that's the color Right. Lilac, that's Kong's new color.
Speaker 1:Godzilla, you said Lilac Kong, oh boy, yeah, that'd be weird. What if I said, hey, yo, godzilla in our music for last week? No, fuck that. I actually really do love Godzilla's theme from Blue Oysters. I listen to that at least once a week. Godzilla oh no, here goes Tokyo. I listen to that at least once a week. Godzilla oh no, here goes Tokyo.
Speaker 1:Godzilla CGI was good. They always make the monsters look really good. Yeah, they do better CGI in the monsterverse than they do in some MCU movies. I said it. I said it. It's funny. Though he has legendary pictures, most of the legendaries got good CGI A good chunk of them. They're dedicated to it at this point. Yeah, and also, if it's the same studio that keeps doing it, they have all the animation done. So it's like, yeah, they had to animate the stock figure and they just make sure it's moving. They did have to animate the suplex. They did have to. I'm saying the character models for Kong and Godzilla were already done. That was funny. That's the reason why Hulk looks better every time you see him. They get to continue to work on the same base model versus.
Speaker 1:I'm up here, I'm on your land. I want you to go down the hole with me and help fight the bad guys. The bad guys are down there, please stop. They're down there, please stop. Oh my God, and suplex. Is that your favorite team? Oh, no, now I'm getting suplexed.
Speaker 1:Son of a bitch. I like when he's trying to carry him down. Don't you touch my tail. And who breaks up the fighting? Mother, stop fighting. I don't need to figure out if I had a favorite scene, though. Stop fighting. Yeah, that was just odd.
Speaker 1:That is bringing up something. Where the fuck did Mothra come from? For what? No, where did Mothra come from? She rebirthed out of crystal. Yeah, I'm back again.
Speaker 1:What's up? Goddamn Godzilla lore, mothra just shows up when you need her. I'm back. I'm going to shoot webs at these. You pray to Mothra. She boom. The fact that she shot webs at them. She shot webs in the King of the Monsters. Still, hey, webs. That's what made him like Mothra a little bit. Mothra's growing on you. She's not on your list, though, is she? I don't know?
Speaker 1:No, the 10 was a tie. Close, but I don't. I got one tie, but it's an appropriate tie. I heard inappropriate, inappropriate tie. That's an appropriate tie. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Stop. There ain't anything inappropriate about this movie. There was no sex. They put monsters. Oh boy, oh boy, that would be something. I mean. What the fuck? I mean? It's been applied. It was very heavily applied in King of the Monsters. We're been applied. It was very heavily applied in King of the Monsters Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, no, they.
Speaker 1:In the first Godzilla it was with the Muto's. The Moot, yeah, but that was same creatures, so it didn't really matter that much. Yeah, not interspecies. Yeah, they brought it up, though Hulk Kong likes interspecies.
Speaker 1:One thing I liked about it I actually did appreciate the first Godzilla, for it's a little slower paced. You don't really get the full shot of Godzilla until near the end of the movie. I like how the first Godzilla did a Jaws approach. They just show you pieces of him and the destruction he causes until they finally give you the big shot at the end. Then they're like, let's just miss this. Then they showed you the thick boy. Yeah, the thick boy, thick boy.
Speaker 1:You know one thing you probably passed by when it came to Skarkang. What Did you just see? His slew of bitches that had all his kids. Yes, that was cool. Hey, hey, I bet Kong's new little buddy is his son. These are my bitches. He's a father bee. Who else has got that fur color? So does that mean he kicked his mom into the lava? I also think Grandpa, daddy, surrogate daddy, I like this little whip chain it's hard to tell with apes. I like this little wannabe kunai chain. There's a joke there that I'm not gonna say. He kept all the apes in line with a whip. Oh boy, disregard that comment. Oh boy, well, technically he didn't finish the comment he implied with that comment. He already said the movie was gangsters. It is Now. You know why he wasn't shit. Well, he did.
Speaker 1:My funniest thing about Skarky was that fucking, and I'm like this had me dying. Maybe it will be a little cool, but he tried to be not that just kind of weak. He did that, kong. He did that fucking. He did the gangster lean on Kong. Like I'm like. That's the moment. Gangster as fuck. That Kong. He did the gangster lean on Kong. Here's you, I'm done. That's the moment. Gangster as hell. Before he even learned that he was a bitch. Yeah, when he did that lean. When he first looked at Kong, he's like. This guy looks like every anime guy. That's supposed to be the bad guy, but isn't really the bad guy. Oh, here's you. Oh, this movie's gonna be a certified hood classic Guaranteed. So I'm like what the fuck? They just ran with it and it worked.
Speaker 1:But yeah, we touched on we were kind of touching on the main kind of negative that Scar King wasn't all that. Jesus Christ, they must have some good friends. Why? Because not a single one of them was black. Who wrote this movie? Yeah, you mentioned all that. Oh, gee, came out of them guys. That's funny.
Speaker 1:Other than that, that, I mean OJ had a continuity issue. We wanted to bring up time in hollow earth. According to monarch, you're supposed to age slower when you're in hollow earth versus on earth. It was literally no time in Hollow Earth versus on Earth. It was literally no time difference between the two. I mean we don't have a reference for time. Remember in Godzilla Kong how they were there in Hollow Earth with Kong and back. There was no age like nobody else aged on Earth differently than them being there. And the same thing is with this movie. Nothing happened.
Speaker 1:You get what he's saying, but that's the kind of crap all studios glaze over. They totally glazed over a main plot point of a TV show. Oh, dude, they don't give a fuck about these TV shows. Half the time, I mean there's they care and they don't. The whole reason we had Kurt Russell and his son playing the same person. Them writers probably weren't even briefed with anything about Marvel. That was just the one thing. It was glazed over. It's like okay, cool, you know what? Fine, whatever. That's my only issue with TV shows. I try to connect the things, make TV show kind of like. You know, if you're going to have a plot point in the TV show, kind of try to carry it over, but they never fucking do it. That's why I don't watch the TV shows ever. That's why I don't Like okay, not much is gonna happen. In the. They save the TV, the big stuff for the movie, always. So it's like they did kind of make Godzilla, the people person, I don't know Be a TV show too.
Speaker 1:He sleeps in the Coliseum. That's all that needs to be said. I'm going to bed. Well, they blew up his other home. Yeah, they blew up his other home with the famous oxygen. No, that was just a nuke. The oxygen in the toilet is what knocked him out.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I'm going to tell you, if the Coliseum ever gets destroyed, he's got to go find somewhere else. If there's a, I'm gonna tell you, if the Coliseum ever gets destroyed, he's gotta go find somewhere else. If he's not fucking just sleeping on Liberty Island in New York, I need him sleeping next to the Statue of Liberty. There's not enough room on the Statue of Liberty, liberty Island, no, madison Square Garden, that'd be funny. He's already blown up New York Shit. And then we find a mini Zilla. I just we're not going to call it Manila. Shut up phone. It's an island. Manila, yeah, manila Island. I didn't know that. I wonder if they named it after Godzilla's kid.
Speaker 1:Imagine all the people in Tokyo watching all the shit in Cairo and shit like, hey, it's not us this time. Well, they did get us a lore explanation Find somewhere else. Pyramids were built. They used gravity. Technically, he hasn't been to Japan. Oh, he went to Hong Kong. Oh, the closest he got was in the Monarch TV show, where he was on one of the minor islands. Oh well, that's a spoiler. He's got to go to Tokyo at some point. That's where Destroyer is. Watch that be where it's at. Saving it for the climax.
Speaker 1:I'm saving my talk about other kaijus for the top ten which are top ten is favorite kaijus, by the way, I'm trying to save most I'm trying to movie. Ones are fine, but the other ones I'm trying to save for the rest of Destroyer, I don't want to talk about Destroyer yet. I don't want to talk about Destroyer yet. You do want to talk about Destroyer? I do, but we got to talk about a little future. Where do you think we're going from here? I don't know, because they didn't. Really. There's not much more they can do. It's like you need to climax the event and then move on.
Speaker 1:The way I see it, they're trying to lean into solo movies, now One of each, each, at least. If they use Destroyer, if it's Godzilla X-Con, I have one that will make him happy. Godzilla's next movie, he got it. Ok, I don't want to talk about he got it, but if, if, egon Okay, I don't want to talk about Egon, but if, um, if, jesus Christ, I lost my whole train of thought now. My bad dude, that's just where I could see it going, so that they can introduce more of the space element. Oh yeah, I don't want space cuts on it. Oh God, that'd be something. Kong, and I have no fucking clue where they're going to go, because he doesn't have a lot of lore. It's going to be something in Hollow Earth.
Speaker 1:But this movie was entirely made-up characters. Yeah, star King was made up, shimo was made up, so they can technically do whatever they want. It's just how many more movies are you going to be able to get out of this? At least one. But they've proven. They'll bring in classics. They've already used Ghidorah, they've used Rodan, they've used Bothra. They will use them. But think about it. They're saving money by making up. They don't gotta license out a Toho monster so they can save money making up some. I had that discussion at my comic store the other day. They save money by making up fucking monsters. Let's make one up. They actually have all the right to considering their own universe.
Speaker 1:My thing is, I was going to say I think they do need solo movies. Godzilla vs Kong, the very next movie, godzilla x Kong, new Empire. Okay, I get it, they're getting on friendly terms, but they got to do their own things. Now, what I was going gonna say, I remember my thing If it's Godzilla X Kong versus Destroyah, I will not watch this fucking movie. No, I won't watch it. That's a one-of-a-kind fight, I will not watch that movie. It's just how are you gonna ruin this?
Speaker 1:Granted, you should need two monsters to fight Destroyah, but I just think that would destroy him. No, you know what's going to happen. It's going to be a two-parter Possibly it's going to be Godzilla against Destroyah and Godzilla's not going to win. He can't win. Destroyah wins All on Kong. Yeah, oh, I don't know if I Probably get him and Chimu. So it's going to be everybody against Destroyah. I don't know what they're going to do and then find out that there is a baby Godzilla somewhere. Yeah, you need Godzilla Jr. Promise he won't get Godzilla's energy. But you know we're thinking Toho, not Monsterverse, because Monsterverse is just kind of throwing us for a loop all through.
Speaker 1:They've got plenty of monsters to use Plenty, especially how Mechagodzilla wasn't really technically Mechagodzilla, I mean it was. It was using Ghidorah's head, yeah, which I called Immediately. Immediately, there's a solid plot for what they used it with. It's like okay, I'll take it. I just didn't like the way you looked. I think the last movie's gotta be.
Speaker 1:There was only two options, in my opinion, for, like the last kind of big showdown movie, it's either Destroyer or Gingadora, and they used Gingadora already. So it's Gingadora. Oh my god, that's the problem. Yeah, that's Tiamat. Oh my god, technically did it. That's the problem. Yeah, he technically combined Mechagodori and Mechagodzilla. That's Tiamat. Yeah, not that eel, not the fucking coral eel. Yeah, that was it. I'm like what the fuck? That was funny as hell.
Speaker 1:They fucking oh, he's going into Tiamat's and all the little things bleed like Titans, hang out. They got their own little areas they can chill in. They already knew that, they already knew that and they just and apparently track them also. They track. Imagine that in real life. Oh God, oh, godzilla's coming, move out, move out, he's coming, he's coming through. Oh boy, that's apparently a shitty king. Yeah, because everyone, oh fuck, that's fucking crap. I'm trying to, that's fucking crap. Hey, I'm a crab, I'm a bitch, I'm a beach animal.
Speaker 1:The reason Tiamat looks the way he does in the movie is thanks to the mythology behind him. That's Tiamat on a Mesopotamian wall. He's just a fucking snake. Yeah, a water snake to eel With a couple fucking snake. Yeah, water snake to eel, water With a couple of arms. Yeah, see, they got that right. What's weird is that's the Mesopotamian lore of him. Yet where is he stationed? In the fucking Arctic. That's one thing I never got about.
Speaker 1:All of the Monsterverse Titans locations, like fucking Rodan was in Brazil Chilling in a fucking volcano. Was it Brazil, king of Monsters? I believe it was I. It doesn't feel right because isn't it Rio? Then he'd be really close to Rio. I knew it was South America.
Speaker 1:In the end, the King of the Monsters, mothra and Rodan, they're just kind of bowing to Godzilla. Yeah, my thing is. So I guess Rodan is just chilling somewhere. I mean, as far as we know oh, I was way off, look at Monsters he was apparently in a volcano north of Fiji. Fiji, that's on the other side of the globe. Yeah, so Rodan's just chilling. Rodan's somewhere. We're just chilling somewhere. Godzilla's around, he's sleeping. Kong's down there Awakens, rodan's somewhere. We're just chilling somewhere. Godzilla's around, he's sleeping. Kong's down there. Awakens Rodan in Mexico.
Speaker 1:That's the literal synopsis from the movie King of Monsters. Yeah, what the fuck was this one In Mexico? Yeah, so Rodan should have had us on board. Rodan was in Mexico. I thought it was South America. The credits review of Rodan has flown and made it to the Nesta volcano.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's his current area, not where you were. He's got his own territory, found a different volcano. Oh my god, I can see it now. I think Matt's onto something. He's got these monsters lingering. Rodan's chill with Godzilla, we know that. He's chill, shimo's chill, mothra's chill.
Speaker 1:When it's destroyed it's going to be just monsters assemble, fuck destroyed. It's going to go straight fucking Avengers Endgame. They already fucking died. I know they have the goddamn portal. It's there. It shows up Along with the axe and the arch. Destoroyah's got a fucking mess. Mess.
Speaker 1:That's something I wanted to see more of. You know how he kind of had like an electrical pulse on the arm's something I wanted to see more of. You know how he kind of had an electrical pulse on the arm? Yeah, I wanted to see more taser function To fall back to Song's electric powers into Thalholger's.
Speaker 1:Oh great, part two. That would work. They've already listed the augmentations. Oh, no, that's too much. No, that's not too much. I mean, the critics would fucking hate it. People would love it.
Speaker 1:Who's to say Destroyer, don't call his homies. Oh boy, we got something. I'm cooking, I'm going to cook his dish. He's going to call. He's going to get people. He's going to get his people. I can think of that. He wouldn't work on a way. He don't like nobody destroyer. Don't like nobody. Destroyer do it. And destroyer dirty too.
Speaker 1:I recently rewatched just cause I love destroyer I rewatched 95 Godzilla vs Destroyer over and over, even though I laughed at the fucking guys in suits. But um, godzilla was mourning his fucking son, godzilla Jr. Destroyer killed it. Is Destroyah going to give Godzilla time to mourn? No, sneak attack, sneak attack, drop kick. Destroyah, don't give no fucks Sneak attack, drop kick. And the military helped Godzilla beat Destroyah too, because they're just blasting him with shit the whole time. Yeah, destroyah's a beast. That's why I want Destroyah.
Speaker 1:And it's funny when you realize destroy is a crustacean, it's a crab. That's why Jay was like there's a destroyer. I'm like, no, that don't destroy, destroy it to that crab. At least one thing's consistent. That's the worst. The governments don't learn, sadly. Fucking Italy, we're gonna shoot at Godzilla. Are you fucking retarded? Fucking Italy, we're gonna shoot at Godzilla, are you fucking retarded? Why did Godzilla go randomly attack things last time? Oh, because somebody was fucking with shit. Why is he attacking all these nuclear reactors? Somebody's fucking with shit. And nobody ever listens to Monarch when they say, hey, just let him do his fucking thing. If he does his thing, he'll leave. Nope, except when he caused a thing he'll leave. Nope, except when he caused a nuclear reactor to go off Because that area is no longer habitable.
Speaker 1:More than not, though, godzilla's always portrayed as the good guy. More than not, he's rarely portrayed as the bad guy, he's just a force of nature. Rarely he's the bad guy in the Tohos. No, not all. He's a good guy in the Tohos, it's not at all. He's a good guy in some ways.
Speaker 1:I'm saying, like in the standalone Tohos, like minus one, he was the villain. Yeah, I was gonna say minus one, he's bad. See, minus one took him back to his original standpoint. Minus one, he's still technically the bad guy. The first two or three movies he was always the bad guy. And then they found monsters that he encroached on his territory and then he just went boss on them. He's like no, this is my place, man. But for Minus One, he's treated as the balance of why they're doing it.
Speaker 1:Minus One also gives you the purpose of creating. Godzilla is basically just a God. What's the word I'm looking for? He symbolizes the atomic bombs dropped on Japan. That's why Godzilla was created Force of nature, he's your penance. Yeah, that was his point.
Speaker 1:The only thing about my mind is, like I said, I have not watched it fully through, but the thing I give minus one you always give a shit about the humans and that a little more they do better with the humans. In that one, even in this one, I care at least they gave a little girl, you her, her purpose and she mattered to the plot of the movie. Everyone else was like you're here for atomic relief, not the doctor, that's my dude, that's my dude. But all these people are like Rebecca Hall, I like you in a lot of movies, but I don't care, I don't care. Monster vs. I don't know if they'll ever get that right. I don't know if they'll ever get that right. I don't know if they'll ever get you to care about. It's weird.
Speaker 1:We got two Frozen Empire movies, both with podcasters in it. Yes, I just realized that. No, nick Mangum podcast. What was his name? Eric? Yeah, I think it was Eric.
Speaker 1:Like I said, I don't know. Retake it, I don't know. But, like I said, I think they gotta take them back to sequel movies. That shit's just. They gonna give Shimo a fucking movie. I don't know. I don't know if they're talking shit, they're not. They'll just have him pop in with Kong.
Speaker 1:I don't know how Shimo would get a solo movie if it ends up being like a Doug series. Yep, yep, I need it. I need it now. I'm like bone pet. Oh my god, they just made Shimo the best.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I'd watch a Shimo. You already have a Doug in the Monsterverse. It's that little fucker that stole Kong's food. Yeah, yeah, I'd watch a Shimo and Baby Kong. You could get something out of that, Going off on your own adventure with Baby Kong and She-Man. Give it there you go. Fuck a second season of Monarch. Yeah, just give us that. You're a She-Man. No, what's the little? It's Suko, is it Suko, suko? Yes, I was right, that's his official name Suko and Shimo, which is weird because it's never said throughout the movie.
Speaker 1:The Adventures of Suko and Shimo. Yep, they just be comedies. It's comedies. Yes, yes, no, it wouldn't have been that bad. It wouldn't have been that bad. It wouldn't have been that bad. There's other words in between. It's Avengers. So it's A-O-S. The damn. It would still be ass.
Speaker 1:It was the pet. It was the pet, the head path, the path that made it. It's like oh my god, they just made Shimo the best. What the fuck man? Why? Yeah, now you're gonna go home and pet the dogs.
Speaker 1:Shimo, shimo, shimo, shimo. It doesn't help your dogs, careful, their breath isn't cold. Yep, oh, my god, poor Brazil. They were just on their beach that beach chilling. Oh, the monsters are here. Save us, jesus, jesus. Nope, how are the monsters? That's one of my dads. That's one thing they didn't do in that movie. They didn't knock over Jesus. They froze Jesus. They froze Jesus. They froze Jesus. Yep, they froze Jesus. Oh, they froze Jesus, jesus. That's okay. That's okay. These monsters are fine. They're just one of my dad's side projects.
Speaker 1:Wow, moving on, I wasn't the one to put a stupid religious joke in there. No, I put the racist one earlier. I was going to make one and I chose not to. There's nothing wrong with that. The titans are just a god side project. I made humans, now I'm going to make monsters. There you go. He made that too. I think he's got a sense of humor. Now we're dead, we're stalled. We got to about where we ended for Ghostbusters 2. That's sad.
Speaker 1:Come on, there's not a lot of plot to this movie, man. There's not. There's really not. It's big monsters. You can talk about something. Big monsters, go, fight. They're actually.
Speaker 1:They're calling back more to the Toho universe by adding in the what the hell did it call it? The Iwa as the old Mothra worshipping tribe versus the one you got on Skull Island, which was thera worshipping tribe, versus the one you got on Skull Island which was the Kong worshipping tribe, sort of. I was kind of hoping for the song to start during that movie, but it didn't happen. Apparently, we got it in the 2019 one, which I don't remember For Skull Island no, 2019, godzilla. They gotta start doing those credits.
Speaker 1:King of Monsters, when they introduced Mothra, apparently, the song was played Probably every time she appeared. There was some. I just watched them all. So there was some. There was a reference there, but it was done in the 60s and then in the 90s, where they revamped it, they didn't bring back any of the other characters outside of Rebecca Hall and Brian Tyree, henry I did find that out. It's like so we're just bringing people back from Mechagodzilla huh, not even that.
Speaker 1:Because he just didn't have the girl, millie, bobby Brown, or whoever her friend was, or the dad, or he didn't have any of the other characters. Then again, their story sort of ended after that, didn't it? No, no, he was more in charge of Monarch than Rebecca Hall's character is True, he was nowhere to be found for this. Maybe he just didn't want to do the movie nerd, just like. Alright, let's shift focus. Let's go to Kong's people.
Speaker 1:Only, how about the dude that got eaten by a tree? He deserved it, he did. At that point he started to grow on me when he was flying through. He kind of had the Scotsman's vibes Laughing at fucking everything, and then he gets eaten by a tree, became a complete dick. I trust my thermal imaging technology over your gut Three. I'm seeing it in 3D, so that scene is definitely going to pop out at you as he.
Speaker 1:I didn't even recognize it as a tree. At first I thought it was a giant worm that was just sitting there and then they just kept calling it a and I'm like what? I wanted to see it again, like that was a tree. Let me see it again. I wanted it to move or something other than that. It could have just been a plant.
Speaker 1:One thing that at least they ain't done fucking. Um, at least in MonsterVerse. Still they haven't done them. You see little glimpses, but they ain't done hardcore big-ass bugs yet in Hollow Earth. Oh Lord, oh Lord. Well, you got them on Skull Island. Oh, they referenced the giant fucking ants. Yeah, the giant fucking spider. That was basically the pike thing. Yeah, I'm just saying that makes me think of what year? 2003's Peter Jackson's King Kong. We were down in the trench. That shit gave me fucking nightmares. You get the chance.
Speaker 1:Monarch, the TV show does it. What Big bugs? Yep, there's literally a swarm that kills Grandma. I'm calling her Grandma. I'm not trying to give away too much information because neither of you watch it. I'm never going to see it, probably not going to see it. I'll probably never watch it. The show is about the founding of Monarch. That makes me care less. Do you remember John Goodman's character? Yeah, they explain him and why he was the way he was. He had a wife and a stepson who kind of fell through one of the portals, so they were trying to explain that more, the retcon stuff that they told him, yes, lovely, which is why I was having issues with the time travel thing. What's going on now? I did like the show though Big bugs, because it was explaining more of the human element and post-traumatic stress that happens after a Godzilla attack and all the stuff we're trying to do to prevent it In all the other movies.
Speaker 1:Oh, my god, I just imagined myself falling down in that trench in that movie. Oh god, oh boy, that'd be fucking. Which trench? Fucking bunk trench? Yeah, you don't. In Kong, oh boy, yeah, you don't want to fall in that trench. Oh boy, oh, ah. Kong, oh boy, yeah, you don't want to fall in that trap. Oh boy, ah.
Speaker 1:They specifically have one where the monsters are a swarm of just bugs, you know, kind of like the scarabs from uh yeah, like bugs, no, not bugs. Well, the worst thing no, there was some big-ass fucking worms that ate John C Reilly. What the fuck he's just like ah, fuck, yeah, that kind of sucked. That was a bad death. Yeah, they fucking did. It's like a sack. And then it opens up and a big-ass teeth mouth comes out. I'm like what the fuck is that? What you looking up? And it just eats John C Reilly Like, oh no, there go John C Reilly, he dead now. They got big ass spiders down there and scorpions and cockroach. Oh, goddamn, army of crickets.
Speaker 1:Skull Island was fucked, dude, so fucked that they created a fucking animated television show on Netflix for it. God, I just can't. Yeah, I have yet to watch it. God, I remember. See, I'm going to have to rewatch that 2003 because I remember when she's hiding in the log and she's in a big ass, fucking stupid ass, big centipede crawls down. I'd be in there. I'd shit myself in that fucking log. I'd shit myself, oh, no, 2003 cop.
Speaker 1:The Peter Jackson one? Yeah, he was in the log. Big ass, centipede. Come on, seth, no, no, no. Is that where your fear came from? Maybe I was young when I watched that. To this day, I kill them little things. I can watch Gollum get eaten alive by slugs. Gollum, yeah, that was. What's his name? Wait, what? The guy that gets all of his arms trapped? Andy Serkis yeah, okay, was John C Reilly in there? Was he in there? John C Reilly was in the Kong one. He was Kong's pilot. Mixing him up, yeah, mixing him up? Okay, that was Serkis. I'm remembering, yeah, remembering, yeah, jackson Kong, the one where he gets taken to New York yeah, that one, I know that one. I had them mixed up. That's where you're remembering the centipedes and the velociraptors and the T-Rexes and all that. Yeah, I still love that.
Speaker 1:It's a good movie, not too much shit. I hated Jack Black in that movie. Guess who's in both movies the actor that they were paying to be the guy. It's the dad for Billy Bobby Brown. Yeah, it's a small world A half With a hollow earth. I'm sorry that 2003 Kong was such a good.
Speaker 1:It was Peter Jackson, I believe. Yeah, post Lord of the Rings, free Hobbit, right, I think. So, yeah, in between, yeah, and it was great. That movie made him go back to Lord of the Rings. I love Lord of the Rings, not only he has his trilogy, his bust back to the trilogy and then Mortal Engines was his next bust. It didn't flop. I don't remember it, didn't? It was too long. I remember now I'm watching this, he made another three hour movie but it was standalone and it dragged on because it was three hours long and it hurt. Yeah, they probably cut out about 20 minutes. The only ones that loved it were people who were dedicated fans to monster movies for one Kong. People who loved the original. Yeah, it basically was a love letter because he climbed the Empire State Building and shit.
Speaker 1:Everything that happened in that movie, except for everything on the island, and it technically didn't have a big name actor attached to it. The biggest name in the movie was Jack Black. Yeah, tom Loki Hiddleston Hiddleston's in Skull Island. Yeah, he was in Skull Island. I'm doing what you did. The big names were the Girl I can't even remember her name, and then Adrian Brody and Jack Black. I don't remember the girl's name, neither do I. It's 2005. I was off by a couple years, 2005,. I wanted to see, oh, naomi Watts. Yeah, big names were Jack Black and Naomi Watts, and then Adrian Brody broke out after that. I mean Naomi Watts. It's horrible with names. Naomi Watts has been on a lot. Naomi Watts has been on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we haven't really had a Kong movie, aside from that. I mean Skull Island technically was, I mean you got the old ones. But if I ever watch a Kong movie aside from that, I mean Skull Island technically was, you got the old ones. But if I ever watch a Kong movie, a lot flip-flop. I like Skull Island, but I really like that 2005 Kong movie. So I watch that one, sometimes even more than I watch.
Speaker 1:I think I've watched Skull Island more than I've watched King Kong. I don't know, I flip-flop as much as I hate the bug trench. It makes me laugh as much as I hate the bug trench. Oh, big bugs. And the T-Rex. There's T-Rex on this motherfucker. Let's just make him dinosaur. Let's just have Kong killing a bunch of dinosaurs. It's a recall to the old Kong movie. I'm gonna fight these T-Rex. Oh my god. Other than that, we didn't really get. One of the monsters is gonna show up on my list. Oh, jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:Well, we don't have anything in between. I already figured this was gonna be a shorter episode, because we only have one dot, one ten, yeah, and we can have random bullshit at the end, like we always fucking do, yeah. The problem is how much bullshit has happened in a week? We random bullshitted through the last episode. We'll find something. We'll find something. We'll just play with the toys at the end.
Speaker 1:They're not coming out of the box. I have two right there. You can choose one. Do you want to be Godzilla or Kong? I don't have an axe, though, so you can't play out the. Do you want to be Godzilla or Kong? I don't have an axe, though, so you can't play out the movie. You're like well, you've got to take her out of the box. Then I call the giant shark. That's not fair, I know damn well, you've got an actual Tiamat somewhere, don't you? That's 500 bucks. Wait a minute, wait, yeah, that's at work. I bucks, wait a minute. Yes, he Wait. Yeah, that's at work. Oh, I was like I bought you. It's at your desk. I'm an auto.
Speaker 1:I was wondering where the fuck that went. No, he said it's on his desk, in the box. I don't have a dragon down here. Isn't that a red dragon over there? I don't have a dragon down here. That is a stand, it's not an action figure.
Speaker 1:He doesn't do much. He's coming. Why are you playing with the monkey? I don't know. It's making a little Nine, nine, no, what, no, what I had. He can do that. There's no video evidence. Yeah, somehow people know what he did. I mean, maybe they heard the chest. That might be copyrighted.
Speaker 1:Great Four, fuck, I got no first. No, I do, I lost, I lost first. What'd you go next? No, we can go counter if you want. We've been going clocked a lot. I suppose, dude, you'd go that way. Goddammit, I'm not meant to go first. I don't think we'll have that. I don't know how much similar we're going to have. I guarantee you that two of mine aren't on yours. You already said you weren't putting somebody on your list, so Wait, are you talking about the one I excluded? Yeah, I didn't. I'll explain it later. Okay, I didn't exclude, I couldn't exclude.
Speaker 1:Okay, my number 10 has nothing to do with the Toho universe, but it does. We need some of that. All mine are Toho monsters. I've got several Toho. All mine are Toho monsters. I've got several Toho. All mine are Tohos. I've got several Toho, but I've got several that aren't. It does do with Marvel. Okay, fredzilla, that's fucking amazing. Even in the comics it has a different power set than the Big Hero 6 movie. Yeah, it's not just a suit, he actually turns into a giant fucking lizard that breathes fire.
Speaker 1:Now, to be clear, the definition of kaiju is pretty much just big monster, right, yeah? So yeah, and me and Jay have taken some liberties with that. I expect you more than me Big monster. I tried to help you with that Big monster, to be fair, up until yesterday, when I messaged Jay, I had nine and I couldn't come up with a ten. You talked and got one more. No, we stumbled across an idea and I kicked somebody off of my nine and got two more. I gave him a loophole. Well, technically, I started the loophole, I started the loophole. Like I said, because Fredzilla is a ten, I started the loophole. I started the loophole, like I said, because Fredzilla is a 10, I have an honorable mention which is also, I believe, in the Marvel Universe, american Kaiju. It's the same fucking thing, really, yeah, except it's an American guy who went through the Super Soldier, ser serum thing, but completely different, completely. And now he turns into basically Godzilla, but he has the American fucking flag down his chest and, instead of going, roar the American yeah, literally American. His roar is American. I'm done. I'm done, I'm tapping out with that. I'm serious. Look him up. I'm tapping out with that. I'm serious. Look him up.
Speaker 1:My number 10 is Rodan Rodan. Rodan, mr Generic Firebird, what I like Matt's descriptions. His literal name is Todd Ziller. Oh God, oh man, just Rodan, just Rodan. I don't know what to add. I'll add to the ones that I've noticed. Yeah, go ahead. Well, here's the thing. My 10 was originally a tie. I actually decided. I was like I'm going to watch the movie and I don't want to decide. I fucked up. He doesn't say America, he says USA. So it's just as bad America. Oh my god, keep going, dude.
Speaker 1:My 10 was originally a tie between Mothra and Shimo shimo, shimo and then shimo won out slightly, so shimo wins. So shimo's 10. Mothra is mothra's right there, because I learned to like mothra a little bit. But they turned shimo into in the best girl, they turned her into a dog. I I can't ignore it. They made cute. She's basically a fucking dog and she has ice powers. I don't know what to say. She's cute, she turned cute. I'm like oh damn it. She was strong, she was badass. She would have no diff Skarking, just like any other monsters in the movie. She did no diff Skarking, ice breath. But yeah, shemuel, I love him, offra too. But if I had to pick one, shemoo would get a slight edge.
Speaker 1:Different number nine for me, god damn, it's because of the freaking female that did the body movements for the suit, because if they didn't do the sound effect over it, it would just be her going. You can imagine that Baragon. So now imagine that. Baragon's in my honorable mentions. Baragon's in honorable mentions. So she's just on all fours right there, just going. Ah, oh, my god, rah Ugh, on all fours right there, it just got. Ah, oh, my god, ah. So because of that I made the list For comedic, almost comedic purposes.
Speaker 1:Well, sadly, my next one has to do with a female too, but for different reasons. So number nine is Mai Tai and it's Leatherback and Otachi which are the two kaiju that wreaked the most havoc in Pacific Rim, killing basically off the entire team before Leatherback and Otachi. Otachi, I don't remember their names, I had to look them up. I knew Leatherback, I knew Leatherback, I didn't know Otachi was the other one. That tag team of them eliminated the Strike Horse team that was supposed to save the day. So it's like I'm going to give them credit because they did more damage to that team than the Fude Grau one. At the end, the strongest, all of them that were merged. He was my 9 and he got pushed out because of the other two. He added up.
Speaker 1:But yeah, my nine is Rodan. He's a classic. I no, I just call him a. I'm a little different. I just call him a pterodactyl. He's kind of a pterodactyl. He's a literal pterodactyl or a pterodon, sing of the point. But he's too classic. He's classic and I like him. And he's also he's a don't get it wrestling term. Classic wrestling term. He's kind of a tweener. He's a tweener. He's not bad, but he's also not good either. He's a tweener. He's sometimes a good guy. Oh, I like Rodin, he'll get it for you. He's too classic.
Speaker 1:Number eight for me is Biollante. It has one of the coolest backstories ever. It's a mutated female. Biollante is on mine. I won't say where, though, but I didn't know. God damn it.
Speaker 1:See, this is why I don't like one. First, you underestimate my knowledge. No, I'm not underestimating your knowledge. Nope, I am not underestimating your knowledge. God damn, this year. Yep, what I like the fact that I know there won't be as many pies and similarities, because I've already said every single one of my list, any female kaiju, every single one of my list, is fucking kaijus. It's fucking Toho kaijus.
Speaker 1:I looked Everything else I don't like. That's pretty much how it goes. I have one who's not Toho? Well, no, two. Ten was not Toho. Wait, was I nine? Was I next or no? No, I'm next. What do we got my 8. Clover Cloverfield. There's one. I was not expecting to see that one. Yeah, I'm basing it all off.
Speaker 1:The first movie With the horrible shots, no, not the second one with the John Goodman. Oh God, did you barely ever see any monsters in it? Yeah, hey, another John Goodman in an monster movie. Let's put John Goodman in all monster movies. Even voicing them Did just as much damage as a Godzilla in a city. Original take and I like the movie, so I never actually watched it, sadly.
Speaker 1:Now you're on eight. It was advertised to me like it was just a fog monster, number eight. No, it's just a mist. Yes, number eight. My number eight is Kumonga, and we all know why you like Kumonga. Kumonga's a big spider. It's weird.
Speaker 1:Kumonga needs to make an appearance in the Monsterverse. Yeah, I mean, you had a spider-like crab. Yeah, that's the closest thing to that. That's the easiest. That's the follower of insects. Kumonga's the easiest one, just to throw in there. I thought they showed a spider in the Monsterverse for King of the Monsters. I thought that was one of the creatures that they showed when they were activated, when Katora was activated, standing around. Yeah, there's Kumonga Possibly. No, kumonga was a big spider. It was cool.
Speaker 1:It's a big spider and it shoots its webs and annoys the fuck out of guys. It's a spider and it shoots its webs and annoys the fuck out of guys. It drags it around and throws it around with its webs, pulls it down. It's annoying. It's just an annoying fucker Almost later. So my next one, number seven Wait, I was Okay, it's the derpiest of taiju.
Speaker 1:Ever in a Tohoverse, you know, not Gatsuki. Okay, not as derpy as that. He's pretty fucking close Borosaurus, because it's just a fucking Tyrannosaurus Rex with a long ass nose. He's derpy. That's why he looks at every appearance. I like how you said not as derpy as that. Gatsuki is fucking derpier. Oh my god, wait, we said Gatsuki, don't we mean Manila, manila, oh god, because here's Godzuki. Yeah, oh my, that was created just for the Hanna-Barbera Godzilla, fucking Godzilla. No, godzuki, no Godzuki.
Speaker 1:My number seven is King Kong, not as high as I thought, not nearly. It's not Phoebe in your top three. No, wow, no, that's surprising. You said your list was boring. Yeah, I expected you just to have the. We haven't even gotten to my added throw-ins to get me to ten yet, oh my, they pushed him down. So King Kong was number 5 on my original list, so he was closer to where you thought he was.
Speaker 1:What? Giant monkey beat things down. Giant monkey being worshipped by people? That's just monster mercy. I know Well, it's Skull Island technically. Skull Island, skull Island, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the computer overheating. We got some overheating actually, possibly, I don't know. Fans do get loud every now and then. It's weird for a new computer. Something's running in the background already? Yeah, 7. My number 7 is Anguirus. Is it something's running in the background already? Yeah, yeah, seven.
Speaker 1:My number seven is Anguirus. Love it. It's basically he looks like an ankylosaurus and that's one of my favorite dinosaurs. That's the one that rolls up into a ball. He's got the spikes on his back. He's got the little club tail kind of that's the dinosaur. He kind of looks like that, but he's got spikes on his back. Anguirus got like spikes on his back Very underrated, he's not used enough. He's really cool.
Speaker 1:Ang, ang, that's Anguirus Six. I see, I knew Jay would like some of these. I knew he'd like some of this Six for me. Anguirus, no, you gotta hold it open. He actually fires a blast.
Speaker 1:King Caesar, yeah, there's another one. I didn't do this on purpose. That's higher, mine's higher, though I don't know which one King Caesar is. I'll show you in a second. Here I try to have ones that people would recognize so much. That is the worst photo because he's wearing a fucking bra in this one. But whatever, I'll show you.
Speaker 1:He's kind of like a lion, lizard, oh, and he has no beef with anyone until you come at him. So basically he's. I will say why I like him I'm not going to say right now I'm going come at him. So basically he's. I will say why I like him. I'm not going to say right now I'm going to leave him. I didn't know he was on his list. Again, man, again, you guys are in. Some you didn't talk to me enough about the Kaiju man. He goes to Lost World for that talk.
Speaker 1:My number six is first off of my added additions. Yay, ifrit From Final Fantasy. I'm not. I have no dispute. I like Ifrit, no dispute. Number two out of all summons from Final Fantasy, especially after Final Fantasy 16. Yeah, 16 made him even more popular. 16 is so Funny thing is, now that they released the next part of 7 Remake, people forget 16 fucking existed again.
Speaker 1:No one cares anymore. I want to play 16 still. So it's on my list. I saw the boss medals are kind of awesome.
Speaker 1:That was our discussion when he brought up that he was going to play the new version of 7. And he said he feels bad because he got him away from 16. It's like well, 16 is just all. Boss battles are just kaiju battles anyway. Then he brought up the point. It's like hey, does that mean he's on the way, basically, 6?
Speaker 1:6 was setter, my 6 was Biollante too, because it six, six was set, or my six is by a lot. They do, oh, because it was different by a lot, say it was different. It was a yes, it's, in fact it was female, was different anyway, but it's basically a fucking plant. It's just a plant. Fuck shit up. It's a fucking plant. It was different. I like to make much fucking damage. It did too. Just, it was so different. It had a fucking big-ass flower on it and shit. It was so different. It's got a mouth. I liked it. It kind of broke the mold. It was a very beautiful monster. It was strange. It was so strange, but so good, I was like Violante, and the name rolls off the tongue Violante, good name, good name, good name.
Speaker 1:Wait, five, he's going to hate me for this one because he doesn't care a fucking shit about him. Jaguar, oh, that's as close to one of my favorites in the Godzilla universe that I'm close to one of my favorites in the Godzilla universe that I'm gonna get Because they won't cross over, because they're two different licenses, which is sad because they're both Haiju universes. My number five, mechagodzilla oh, I forgot to say my number five, mechagodzilla. Oh, I forgot to say Mechagodzilla and space are on my honorable mentions. I treat him with separate entities. Like he was going to make it, I put all the mechas on my honorable mentions Mechagodzilla, mechagizora, mechagid mentions, mecha Godzilla, mecha Kizora, mecha Gigan Five. Okay, now I can go. My five is King Caesar.
Speaker 1:This man has one. He has one lightning blast out of his mouth. He shoots. Other than that, he's all hands. He's not lying, he just dropkicks and he's all fucking hands. See, that's what I want.
Speaker 1:Let me explain that one. He's basically a fucking kickboxer. He's all hands. He doesn't want to know where to dropkick. I love it. His design's kind of a little ugly, but he's so cool, I just like that. He's all hands. You know what? He's got some good lore behind him that I can't fucking really remember, though it's like what the hell are you doing? It's another one of those that people kind of worship. He has like a shrine, he protects and shit, and you get into monsters, you get close to and he comes out and starts dropkicking them, dropkick, he's all hands. All these monsters they're blasting. She's like oh no, he's square up too. He's just come on. I'm just seeing the dude in the suit, just drop, kick and fucking got struck. That's why he stood out to me. He's just all hands, he's mostly hands Fucking funny.
Speaker 1:Okay, now Four. Oh, we're getting over four. Oh, we're on my god tears now. Boy, oh boy, here's my god tears coming. I put Mothra at number four. Okay, the only one you're going to have on the list. Mothra's not on mine and he already said Mothra was tied for his ten and I gave it to Shimo. So, yeah, yeah, well, then Mothra only ended up being tied on your list due to this movie, otherwise you didn't care a shit for her. Yeah, she's kind of cute. Oh, she's cute, okay, and she told everyone to stop fighting like Mothra.
Speaker 1:Mothra has one of those weirdest backstories throughout the Toho universe where she's either a goddess, an alien moth or another titan, like we have now, and her lore is sort of mixing together again, because in this one we got the Iwa tribe that just kind of brought her back from nothingness because she died in Kingdom Monsters. And now she's back, yep, back again. Yeah, sue's back, back again. If she doesn't get a fucking meme video off of that right there, I mean it's better than the one that sticks in my head because of this. What is that? Basically, somebody turned the batman v superman martha meme into a godzilla against some pong mothra meme Instead of saying Martha, it's Mothra. And it all takes place in Egypt.
Speaker 1:My number four Voldar Power Rangers. There we go. I love all those. It's one of my favorite characters in Power Rangers, so it was like he deserves it, even if he becomes a joke later on. He's still one of my favorite characters, even if he becomes a joke. Okay, now we're in my upper echelon. Now we're in my upper echelon King Caesar's on the cusp, but now we're in my upper echelon.
Speaker 1:My number four is Megalon. He's basically a beetle that his arms are drills and it's fucking cool. He just drills them. Megalon made it to that one. I wonder where Gigan went. Gigan, I'm up there, but no, I already. Where Gigan went, he's already top three. I'm pretty sure three and two. Those two are the contenders as far as numbers for that. You know where my love for Megalon came from. No, actually, a lot of these, a lot of these top ones, or a lot of my love came from.
Speaker 1:There was a game on GameCube about Godzilla destroying all monsters. Megalon was one of my mains. Megalon was one of my mains. I just fucked people up with Megalon. I almost brought that with just to put with the stuff. I fucked people up with Megalon. He's just, he's got the beetle kind of horn on his head. He's basically a beetle with drills. It don't make no sense, but it's cool.
Speaker 1:Gotta love your practical effects too. I got specific with this one because I love the new Kong. It's cool. You talking about this one, the one that's in here, that one Kong, monster vs Kong, my OG talking about this one, the one that's in here, that one, kong, monster vs Kong, monster vs Kong. Yeah, okay, but my OG Kong, right there, new York Kong, the one that James Cameron brought back, yeah, that's my buddy. I've always loved him.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I'm pretty sure he's the reason I actually like gorillas. Yeah, dreadnought. Well, matt, here comes another. Here we go, number three yeah, pingador, we have the same three.
Speaker 1:Alright reasonings. He's the three-headed dragon. Five-headed dragon is my. Why wouldn't the three-headed dragon be in my top three? I don't think your three-headed dragon got the three. No, gengador, yeah, that's why I went with that. Why do you think he's number three? There's a. I went with that. Why do you think he's number three? There's a. I went with it, nope, I. And again, that is just classic. I think there's a dragon at one. What's your point?
Speaker 1:Gingadoro's just top tier. He's top tier, classic, like I said, three-headed dragon, even though the funniest thing he don't really have arms, he's just got fucking. That will always kill me. He's just legs, torso and three hands. Don't forget his giant-ass fucking wings, yep. And he always comes down hey, godzilla, we're going to fight. He's always portrayed as Godzilla's biggest rival, for the most part Because he comes back all the time. My favorite enemy has only been seen once. I can't fucking remember.
Speaker 1:Ghidorah has always been said to have come from space, but we never get an explanation of exactly where. There's a whole planet of Ghidorahs. I believe it Ghidorah Dude, number two. Planet of Gadoras. I believe it Gingador, number two. What about Ultraman? There you go. I love Ultraman.
Speaker 1:He's the other side of the Hydroverse that I love, and I just got reinvigorated and hit love for him through the Netflix show and the sad part about that one is in that show they don't actually make him go big, which is one of his biggest features in the old series when he puts together his arms and does the Ultra Beam. It was all so cool to me he was basically a Kaiju Power Ranger. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, very yeah, that was true. Bahamut, my other Final Fantasy Easy top three, dragon of Destruction. Funny about that. Bahamut, my other Final Fantasy Easy top three, dragon of Destruction. Funny about that. Bahamut does show up in the Kaijaverse, I know, just completely different. Biggest badass dragon I've ever watched Badass dragon. Nothing wrong with big badass dragon. Oh boy, my number two.
Speaker 1:My number two is everyone's favorite space chicken Egon. He looks like a chicken, he does. I used to say praying mantis because of his hook arms, his blade arms. But then I look at him. He do look like a chicken Jay's like. Why do you think you like he do look like a chicken Jay's like. Why do you think you like him? He looks like a chicken. No, that's not who I'm looking for. He looks like you. He has one of the most memorable designs of any kaiju. I don't care, I'll stand on it and his little saw on his belly.
Speaker 1:He said who are the only other kaiju to do the most damage to Godzilla other than you know his? Who made rivals again? That was another one I made in the GameCube game Space Godzilla, gigan. I'll say them both Gigan. People say Gigan, the space chicken Gigan is the way. Say them both. People say Gigan. People say Gigan. Fuck, make up your mind, the space chicken Gigan is the way I always thought it was pronounced. I've heard people say Gigan so I'm like, uh, okay, whatever, I'm just going to pick whatever one. Let's get Sir Gigan on chicken and this is from space. He's got a whole fucking family. Yep, here it comes. I sent him a TikTok once that explained about the family. There are actually female Gigan and they do different fucking things. What the fuck is this? He's another wanted monster in the monsterverse. People want Gigan.
Speaker 1:I was trying to say, if Godzilla gets another solo movie, let's bring in Gigan dude. It'd be fucking awesome. That would be something It'd be so easy to do, considering Hollow Earth is where they centralize all the Kong stories. Let's bring Godzilla to space, just not Space Godzilla. Godzilla In space, in space. I can see us doing it, I know. Oh no, there's a giant asteroid coming in space.
Speaker 1:Godzilla, shoot it down. I don't even know if it picked it up. Picked up something. One, one for all the way back to me. Shit. One for me is Zilla the 2000. Was it one no 90, 99, 98, 98, the 2000. Was it one no 90. 99? Yeah, 98. Yeah, 98. 98.
Speaker 1:Watching that movie is what made me delve into the entirety of Godzilla, because I had to know more. Fyi, that movie's hated. I love it too. I'm saying Masses, that movie's hated. Without him, most Americans wouldn't even know what the fuck Godzilla is. It's true that movie's hated. It's one I have on Blu-ray that I'm proud of, though Hold on to it until the day I die. It's hard to find. And now kids actually have a good God. I can't say that because I do love Zilla that much, but they have a good Godzilla based off of.
Speaker 1:To go back in time and watch all the campy ones yeah, bean's favorite scene, oh, not the flying dropkick from Godzilla. Oh, that, yeah, yeah that Tails is dragging along the floor and he's just still going. It's not the kick, it's just like that's it. They're only like a log and a string. Watch the scene where he just uses his fire breath and he's flying across like a UFO. He's got some feats just because of the shit he does. Watch these fucking things. They just walk so slow at each other. I love the one that is a gif now where he's doing a dance or he's just jumping up like he's just doing this, that's his dance.
Speaker 1:One of my favorite things is I bring up Komunga. Why Komunga was so funny. All the damn situations. He'd throw his webs and shit. Godzilla would be all tied up and he's moving all fucking. You just see how it's nuts. And you got Komunga. Just that's the fucking. Oh, these old, just spot him. Oh, he's a big spank, you can Just spawn him. Oh, he's a big spank, you can just step on him. God, oh God. I'm so happy.
Speaker 1:Matt knew exactly what I was talking about. What it's a meme. That's a classic. Everybody knows it. That's when you brought it up. Do I get to make that joke? Now, which joke? My number one? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're number one. Everyone knows his name Godzilla. It's Godzilla. My number one is Godzilla. What was I going to hide? Yeah, that's why I went specific with it. I was like, yeah, damn it. Now I'm gonna have that. Nope, I'm gonna play that on the way home. Oyster Godzilla that was the theme song at the end of the movie for the original Monstaverse, the one that started it all Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Number one, sir. My number one is actually the tie. It is Godzilla.
Speaker 1:I kind of, because I have the same love for the 98 one, because I was young, me watched that. Oh, so you tied them both. No, I didn't say who he's tied with, even though it's probably obvious, but 98, godzilla, god, that was 98. So four, that was four-year-old me watching that. No, three, four or three, and I was very impressionable. So I'm just like, yeah, big monster, yeah, godzilla, I was still a toddler and you know all toddlers. I'm just impressionable. So I'm like big lizard, you were never a king, you were never even a monster, save Mothra. What did? You were never a king, you were never even a monster, save Mothra. What the? I told you? I told you OG Kong versus Zilla. And I do love, I love All the pops here are him. I love Monster versus Zilla too. He's just here are him. I love Monster Ursula too. He's just big beef boy. I call him big beef boy, he's just big and beefy. But that's your tie. No, no, no, the tie is with the only monster to best him Destroyer. You know, destroyer, you got the time. Give us your reasoning behind Destroyer, give us the whole story.
Speaker 1:Destroyah has even over Gigan, even over Gigan. Destroyah has my favorite design ever. With a kaiju you can joke that it's basically a crab because he's a crustacean, but he looks like Satan. It looks like the devil. That is the greatest final boss. He's the devil. I love his freaking design and how he's born from the original weapon that killed Godzilla the oxygen bomb. That's what mutated the crustaceans and they all combined into fucking Destroyah. So I like how. What does in that iteration of Godzilla is the first weapon that sold the origin. I like it. Satan Godzilla he is. He's just the devil. He has Mooneyzilla what, my bad, huh, I didn't show him. He's just that design. Just, I like designs.
Speaker 1:I noticed a lot of my top ones were design-based too. Bloody Red, yep. And he's mean. He is fucking mean. He don't care. He just wants to kill things and destroy things. That's all he wants to do. He don't give a fuck, he don't care. He won't even give Godzilla time to mourn his son before he comes in with a sneak attack.
Speaker 1:The most slow-mo drop, another slow-mo dropkick I realize that they really love the dropkicks in Toho and the fact that after the fight Godzilla needed help, the Japanese military was blasting. They have longer arms and mobility in this. The Japanese military was blasting Destroyer 2 to beat him. They finally got him down and then, after a fight, godzilla died and that iteration of Godzilla gave his life, his life, his radiation, pretty much to Godzilla Jr. Yeah, that Godzilla. And then Godzilla Jr became the Godzilla.
Speaker 1:I only ever have his tail facing one way because it doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah, and another thing Destroy is only, like I said, with Ghidorah. Ghidorah comes back a bunch of times. Ghidorah, destroy is only in one movie. Good, yeah, it was right there. I don't want to see Deed's face when you only see, yeah, like that, that's it. I don't have video. I value when you only see a villain, kind of once in a way, because it's like you've only seen Destroyer once. He's in one movie, that's it. That's why I think it's do they bring him back and he should be the final boss. So the uh.
Speaker 1:If you look at the appearances of all of Godzilla's uh foes, they've all pretty much made a second or third appearance. And Destroyah, the one that killed him, one that killed the Godzilla, you know what? No, fuck it. As much as we really want to see it, I don't want it. Doomsday him. Oh God, could you imagine how they would fuck that up on us. Destroyah Monster Changing his look yeah, you don't think they would that up on us. Destroyah Changing his look yeah, you don't think they would. They made Destro look better. I'm not going to argue that they couldn't. They just make Destroyah even more beefy, more beefy.
Speaker 1:Mothra was really skinny in these movies Looks more like a moth versus a puppet, I suppose. Yeah, mothra fights are always fucking funny in the Toho shit. Motherfucker would just fly up there. You just beat him with the wings Pure Butterfree. I love it. I was never a fan of Butterfree, but Damn it. Thank you If I'm gonna. No, thank you If I'm gonna fucking remember it. Next time I catch a Butterfree or a Wobbitchatterpie into one, it's gonna be named Mothra. I mean, destroyer was dragging around Godzilla with his tail. Throw him through, but no, I think Mothra's got the best. I'm just happy I broke him Just re. I never.
Speaker 1:I just want to do that. You could have done that. The entire podcast, that and uh, whatever the fuck I that and fucking, uh, but no, I that. And uh, baragon rawr, rawr. No, I that. And uh, baragon, rawr, rawr. Did you know that, laura? Because I didn't. I have money as a Rawr. She does Rawr, rawr, hold on. I know it's copyrighted shit, but I gotta show you. I have got to show you. Oh, no, no, not on the know it's copyrighted shit, but I gotta show you. I have got to show you. No, not on the cat, leave it till after, show us after, or find it, or something you can show us after. We gotta do our uh, we gotta do our fuckin' random shit chat. We gotta milk out a little bit here, because that's short Suplex. Not the suplex, yeah, but the suplex, bro.
Speaker 1:Why is Godzilla lighter than Kong? He's actual PVC, he's just plastic. Wait a minute, I just thought of something. No, okay, and it's that fucking funny. It's a video, people, it's a video. That's the characters actually doing it. I wish they had that in there. It's hilarious, it's awesome and it's cute and campy. That monster is. That would have been awesome to me. Imagine that one in a monster. Oh god, ah, yeah, been awesome to me. Imagine that one in the monster oh God, ah yeah. Now you know why she made the list Right. The funny thing is the monster's not even a female either too. That's why, ah, that shit I love.
Speaker 1:I want more behind the scenes stuff released for the show up period. I believe that's what it was A little show up period. Well, that was a 2001 movie. So, my God, oh, I remember what I was going to say. It technically would have counted. Technically I'm snob. That could have been on my list For Kaiju. We've seen it in theaters. You remember when we've seen Jackass 4 in theaters? Oh, fuck you, when dude put his dick through the. That could have been my, that could have been my time. Stop it, that could have been my time. You could have put that as 10. I could have Chris Pontius' dick from Jack Gatsby and it prompts the kids to get bitten by a turtle. Jay's like he gets bit by a turtle. You were watching that Somehow.
Speaker 1:Do not ask me how Matt went with us. Do not ask me how that stills. Yes, matt was with us. I couldn't believe he went. That's when I surely expected to get a. No, I'll go. What he was laughing. We didn't get Austin to go. Yeah, another excuse.
Speaker 1:I remember that scene. He was laughing. We didn't get Austin to go. Yeah, another excuse. I remember that scene just burned into my head. We're like it's a monster. It's a dude's dick. There's his balls.
Speaker 1:You know what scene's burned into my head? I still want to do it to you. Are we talking from Jackass Bear the bear? What? I still don't see one of us doing the toilet scene, though. Not again, not again. Ah, it's not. Wait, wait, you gotta do it. And then you gotta get. Come on, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. Holy shit, can you imagine? We opened the video this way? This is our podcast opening. It doesn't really stay on my nose. Yeah, don't wait, wait, wait, toss it in my head. Well, I toss it in my head.
Speaker 1:Well, we don't know what our next episode is going to be yet. We don't. Actually, we have a whole bunch on tap, though. We have like two planned episodes, and one of which we haven't really done. Everything I'm doing is just speculating what movies would need an episode. That's basically what I've been doing nothing concrete. Our two planned episodes are a Harry Potter and a Disney episode. You know how many times we talk about the Harry Potter one and it just there's a Harry Potter reference for the episode. Yep, that's the reason why Godzilla can fly. We got him Leviosa. Yep, the Disney episode's got him.
Speaker 1:What kind of hood shit you doing to him. Hey, hey, he got suplexed. You always gotta lock up. Come on, dean. Oh, thank you John. Hey, hey, fuck Heath. Hey, hey, fuck man. He's a hard guy but he's fragile. Look Off with his head. No, he literally no, he's got different heads you can put on him. Oh, my god, now you've got, for some reason, the most random. See, now I'm crossing over Harry Potter and Godzilla in my fucking head. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1:I'd watch it. Avada Kedavra, hey, hey, hey, I think I'd appreciate that as Dumbledore's secret better than we all know his secret. No, wait, avada Kedav, that is Dumbledore's secret better than we all know his secret. What Nevada Cadaver or Godzilla? I mean, it's the oh no, we just opened up a whole can of worms. Could a Nevada Cadaver kill a kaiju? And it's the killing curse. Well, it doesn't even kill in the Harry Potter video game. So, yeah, not the way it actually does. It was bullshit.
Speaker 1:I remember I watched, I wanted to see it. I remember the Hogwarts Legacy game. It's in the game. You gotta go through a whole big quest line to get it and you can only use it like once and you gotta recharge it to use it. It's so fucking. I gotta do all this work to use Avada Kedavra. Yes, sad thing is I have the game and I didn't get past the, because I heard from people that played it. I heard people that played it said it's fun for a few hours, but that motherfucker dies so quick. I don't care anymore. It's very repetitive. It's still the best selling game of the year.
Speaker 1:Stop staring at me. Do it to yourself, look at it. Just to have Godzilla stare at you. I can't see his eyes. So it doesn't creep me out as much what the eyes are looking down. It doesn't scare me as much. They just scare you more. No, what's it staring at His stomach? Jesus? That'd scare you more. No, what's it staring at the stomach? Oh, jesus, you gonna get the given. You gonna point at the guy that gets easily creeped out. He doesn't More than you think. He's just gonna treat it like Shima Yep, that's a scary thought. Oh boy, see, he's already petting its head. Hey, you can't pet anywhere else, it's only the head. They can't see context. There is no head petting, context, it's you. Oh shit, yeah, they don't understand this reference.
Speaker 1:We described it beforehand. They didn't know we had the action figure here. We never said we did. No, they will once. I take a picture. I mean we had it during the episode Random little spat at the end, but there's a lot. This is random.
Speaker 1:They kind of came up with the Destroy All Monsters. We're not talking about Godzilla yet With the Destroy All Monsters, but they've got good games coming out. Oh, you know, we could actually Matt said eh, I knew he'd, matt don't play as many games. I gotta remember that, thanks to the Monsterverse, you know what we could actually use? A remake monster fighting game. Yes, that would be cool. That would be cool. Bring back all the old versions. They could even, you know, fuck me for saying this, because I know they'll do it.
Speaker 1:No, sell the skins, oh, no Skins, classic skin, because you have your Monsterverse skin, you have your Toho, you have your Showa, you have your Shin. Yeah, do you know how many Godzillas there are? And then Zilla will just be his own character, because you can't fucking make that a skin. That'd just be wrong. And different Kong could have three different, no, four technically, because you have Godzilla vs Kong, where he's got that weird ass, fucking monkey suit. You'd have the Power Kong, or New York Kong, as I call him. They could clown you and make the Power Kong, or New York Kong, as I call them. They could clown you and make the black light skin. Yeah, fortnite, the shit out of that. Oh, my god, I'm thinking about that on PS5 graphics. Oh, that'd be cool. A black light skin, just a game like that in general. Just make a oh boy, there'd be controversy.
Speaker 1:Pick your kaiju and pick your location. You want to fight. It should be a random location, random. If it's going to be based on the Monsterverse, you have to pop out of a this one's just for Dean Tube, holy shit. Oh no, oh, it's Shimo. I keep calling Shimo Shimu, shamwow. Oh, he's gonna die. What you just showed me a puppy oh, he's gonna die. What you just showed me a puppy and said he's gonna die? Only if a real man was arrested after stabbing Lucy, the dog, to death while she was out for a walk. She dead, he dead. Regret it, don Yep. Oh, this is poetic and appropriate.
Speaker 1:First I have to thank Oppenheimer. I'm glad it's Godzilla accepting their Oscar and it's just the guy who played Oppenheimer and the crowd's smiling. Thank you, internet, I mean. Well, I know Jay is going to be tied up with Final Fantasy for a bit. Now I have Crisis, core and Rebirth and all the fucking mini Core and Rebirth to play and all the fucking mini-games in Rebirth that I've been seeing is like shit. The most recent game I have bought is Tekken 8. I've played every once in a while, but that's the thing with fighting games, man, you can easily overplay it. They die quick.
Speaker 1:Are we going to play D&D before we do our Disney episode or are we going to get D&D or Disney episode out before we play D&D? That's my biggest question at this point. I thought we were planning your birthday. Yeah, that's third week in April. That's three, four weeks away. Three, four weeks. Do you have anything else coming up before that? There's no movies. No, I don't. The next movie I'd want to do an episode on would be we basically Okay, sorry to the actual fans out there, I'm not giving you one a month, You're getting two this month.
Speaker 1:Well, technically we try to get two a month because that's how much time we have. Yeah, not always. Well, the Disney episode's going to be two hours Easy. Game show itself is going to be an hour Easy, easy. Game show itself is going to be an hour easy. Yeah, it's going to be that three hour range. Still need to test to see if that works. Yeah, I mean our game show idea. I don't know how we're going to do that. I don't know if it'll pick it up. I think we can do it after we're on the test. Names will cause you and you just show a shadow. It means over here. It's like that's Gigan, gigan. It's not Gigan. What the fuck you mean? It's not Gigan. We just need to test to make sure the microphone picks up the songs. We can do that post.
Speaker 1:The worst meme of that I've ever fucking seen was it was a silhouette. It's obviously Diglett and it's Spider-Man. It's Diglett and it's a gravestone with Uncle Ben on it. It's Diglett. No, it's Uncle Ben's grave. It got you big time, didn't it? That would have been horrible. I don't know. My favorite one is Spider-Man's shopping in the grocery store and he goes down the rice aisle. Uncle Ben's rice, no, oh, speaking of speaking of Matt, bring it up to me. He didn't want to crush my soul, but we talked about it a little bit. This is random marble talk, actually, but it gets us a little more. Maybe it gets us to two hours at least, but fucking, it's not going to get us 24 minutes. No, it's not. It's not going to get us 24 minutes. No, it's not.
Speaker 1:But the rumor is now that they're going to kind of fade Peter Parker away from and it's just going to be Spider-Man. What people are, I think, are misinterpreting that you will still see Peter, but they're MCU. They're not going to focus as much on. I'm iffy with it. I want to see how they actually they might. They're not going to focus as much on Peter's life. It's going to be a lot of spider. They're going to downplay a little bit of Peter, his love life and this and that and is they want there? That's a rumor. They're going to take a back seat. I'm not against it. I'm not either Totally, but that means a lot of Peter Parker is very important.
Speaker 1:Spider-man is a character too. Well, it can work, you can do it, but you gotta, I just found it Okay. So you're going to Like I said I don't hate it, how's that work with the actor? Like no, tom's going to be in it, because they already rumored that Zendaya's going to come back. But uh, it's like that's interesting. So you're going to it's mainly Spider-Man because, remember, spider-man and Peter Parker are technically different. Even though they're the same person. They lead different lives. So, from what I'm gathering, they're not going to focus as much on Peter's stuff.
Speaker 1:You know all the Spider movies. There's a good amount of the movie where he's just Peter. What are you doing to me now? Oh, he's looking at memes. What the fuck does that say on the top? Paraphrases, paraphrases.
Speaker 1:Somehow Jesus returned, hi, good Friday. Somehow still somebody best writing I've ever seen. Somehow Emperor Palpatine returned. Rewatch those Fucking. Rewatch those movies and you'll re-appreciate how bad they are.
Speaker 1:I have tried the only one I actually seem to actually still like, the first one, the only one I actually seem to actually still like. The first one. The first one. Well, that one was a decent starting point and they fucking. I see you, I'll bicker with Matt a little bit, but Star Wars, I don't bicker as much because I see most of his points. How you have no faith. Marvel, I'll bicker back a little bit, but Star Wars, I don't pick her as much because I kind of see where he's coming from. I had faith with fucking Mandalorian.
Speaker 1:Then they decided to oh nope, too much of a marketing ploy. And then they take Grogu and are like mascot. So, speaking of Star Wars, I don't think I've actually talked with you in person about Acolyte. It's already gotten. It's a season two cancellation. Oh boy, nobody's gonna watch it. I will. It was supposed to get two seasons. Yes, I will. For me it didn't matter if it was going to get two seasons. They had ideas of a second season already and it's already said no, they have a Grogan Mandalorian movie. They've got movies planned that nobody's gonna go see Grogu Mandalorian movie. And you said nobody's gonna see it. They're gonna see it just for Grogu. There's gonna be no seasons tying to it, it's just gonna be a movie. I'm not making another season.
Speaker 1:That was one of the things they had going for them too. That was one of the things they had going for them too. Oh boy, they didn't know what they were doing with that franchise. What everybody wanted was a bounty hunter running around the galaxy doing shit. And then, oh, here's a character that we're going to make another franchise off of. It worked fine, but no, you gave him free arc for Boba Fett and Bo-Katan and then ripped it away from him and gave it to the characters that they were meant to have. That is kind of sad that we didn't get him doing very much. No, that's Savior of the Mandalorians. Nope, that was gonna be, bro. Nope, that's one of the worst ever. That is one of the worst things fucking ever.
Speaker 1:It wasn't perfect but I was liking it. I was liking Boba Fett's show and then episode three or four here come like, oh, my fucking God hijacked the show. Thing is there's like two episodes. You barely see Boba in his whole fucking show. It was bad, it was fucking bad. They kind of they tried to salvage. I'm like at least have Boba fight Cad Bane, thank you. But I'm like at least have Boba fight Cad Bane, thank you. But still, the damage was done. Man, you gave no reason for why Boba wanted to be a crime boss. You gave him a job with the HUD's business and said, nope, I'm not going to do that, Except for what was the movie reference, dean?
Speaker 1:What Did you love to call it? What For the Boba the Fed show? It was uh, what the fuck was it what it was? What the fuck was it the movie reference? She kept calling it some Indian cowboy. Oh, dancing with Wolves. There you go. Oh, with sand people. That's his whole reason. But it did give us like a. It gave us that. No, that's oh, not the Mosess. Like a bentham. It gave us that. No. And the Power Rangers? Oh, not. The Mos Espa Vespas. Oh God, I stole that shot out of John Campion. You're one of my favorite people to watch on YouTube. I completely ripped that from him. That's what he calls them, the Mos Espa Vespas.
Speaker 1:I did find it funny because, after going through research and all the trailers coming out, the girl that plays Ahsoka in the Ahsoka series is Tiny Tina in the Borderlands. I don't think Star Wars has any fucking value going forward if they're in shit, if they want to do anything and salvage anything. So now they're going back in time and destroying. I sound like a broken room. Maybe I don't want that with how much I love him, but at the sense of roll back to Revan time. But Matt's like you want them to go do Revan, then we're going to rewind and do it. Yeah, sadly, that's what they're trying to do. You lost me in the first ten seconds of everybody closing their eyes and thinking you got an alien on screen that can't blink. I'm trying to think of that one because I keep wanting to go back and watch the trailer and watch specifically see. Yeah, what the hell, why would you? Problem is, even Matt will agree here a little bit, because we talked about this one.
Speaker 1:There's Kaiju in Star Wars, that big fucking worm in almost 8th Millennium Falcon, so it ties in. I'll just call that a Kaiju. Would a Sarlacc pit be a Kaiju? It's big enough? No, sarlacc pit be a kaiju, it's big enough. No, sarlacc's not big enough, no, no. What the fuck is the asteroid worm that could be a kaiju? That one could. That's not a Sarlacc though. Space whale? Oh no, that would work. But he and Matt talked and I never repeated it but they're raising for the port of on earth strategists of all time on star wars outsmarted by whales. That's felony when you do that. My hey, he brought it back. He brought him back by using the whales. He's a giant space ring. I mean, brought him back by using the wheels? No, he's a giant space ring. I mean, I don't know, I can't remember. I still get Halo by the time I watch that. We're at loss, matt, because we talked almost every episode a little bit.
Speaker 1:You didn't hate Ahsoka. There's a part where Ahsoka lost you, though, and you just started not caring. You didn't hate Ahsoka as much as you hated other shit. He didn't hate Ahsoka as much as he hated other shit. Close the thing that broke it. Then they did something. Oh, my fucking God, I don't care anymore. They fucked it up. Well, everything featuring Thrawn was bad. I'm trying to think of it. I couldn't look at him and not see Elon Musk, blue Elon. The sad thing about Sokka is the funny thing.
Speaker 1:Well, honestly, I was thrown off immediately with the Sosoka because of Goddamn Treasure Planet. That threw me off, but that wasn't what turned me off of the show. I didn't even get to you on that yet. We talked about it in the episode. There was yeah, but when you talk, when we watched the episodes ourselves, I didn't even text you that yet. You saw it too. It too the best part. I just I was saying it and then you sent me the reddit thing. It's like where have I seen this before? I mean, we still do not have a treasure planet movie.
Speaker 1:I don't remember if Ahsoka is going to get a season. No, I think it was. We don't know, it's lost. Then we got, apparently, the Rey movie coming out. I'm like, apparently, she got pregnant. The last known thing is she got pregnant through Kylo Ren's kiss Force, baby, force, baby. So I was going to say so, we're getting another anecdote. So when they're making up and like, oh, I hate myself for doing that. Becoming friends, I hate myself for doing that. I just called baby Anakin they're going to, yeah, because who did it? Think about that one for a second. Who was supposedly the one who manipulated the Force for Anakin to be a thing? Big Daddy Palpatine, oh God, you know.
Speaker 1:In my personal opinion, too funny thing about Ahsoka she was kind of the best thing about the show was fucking the bad guys. I, like Balan, were they. Don't you say nothing bad about Shin-Hat, do you say nothing? That's my horniness. She's not going to turn out who people I'm not scared of, every single, and he's one of those villains. Balan doesn't give a shit. That's my horniness. She's not going to turn out who people I'm not scared of every single I'm going to, and he's one of those villains. Balon doesn't give a shit. He's off doing his own goddamn thing and now we won't ever see him again.
Speaker 1:Nope, peace, buddy, yep, they could recast him. What the fuck? What did no? Balon was doing his thing. Oh Shin, with the fucking people, because she couldn't get back to the fucking Grand Antitron's ship by the end of the thing. So now she's gonna go after Ahsoka and Sabine? No, that's what broke it, sabine. Sabine returned to the fucking Jedi. That was what broke it. Oh, all of a sudden having force powers.
Speaker 1:Yes, conning, all of anything Filoni said in the fucking TV show. It's like, well, filoni just doesn't care about his own canon. And they would not and they wouldn't let. I knew he wanted to do it. I knew he wanted to do it. It's either he said later or on the cutting room floor somewhere, they wouldn't let fucking Flo Coon be Balan Skull's master. They fucking wouldn't let him do it.
Speaker 1:I knew he wanted to do it. I knew it. Jay's sitting there in his head. Thank God they didn't do it. Just didn't have that be the greatest fucking show known to man. To him it could have been terrible. That was a great show. Matt would have ruined it for you. Fuck you. You're like he's still dead. That's just a flashback or a force pull, just like the time I dropped his pop and he felt the need to be a he's dead. That's why I want to do a watch-along episode and I want it to be Rings of Power, just to destroy it before both of you as you're watching it. That's why I want to do one of those.
Speaker 1:I have nothing against it, neither do I, but we gotta find time. I don't either Free all the time, that's the problem. But we need everyone. Normally you are Now. He's got games. Now. He's got games to play. Now I can play those during the week, that's easy. I just sacrifice sleep for that.
Speaker 1:It's gotta be during a dead period where we don't have an episode plan. We have an episode plan that we have to do Disney. Do we not have enough Disney episodes? We did a Star Wars Disney episode. That doesn't count. Yeah, and we've done these Disney featured episodes, but they were never Disney products. They were all Marvel, disney or Marvel Star Wars. Yeah, technically, technically, yeah, because they're all. Yeah, because it was Marvel or Disney. Yeah, we never did just a Disney episode and, like I said, I was happy. I dug out my pops and found Disney ones. Whole shit ton.
Speaker 1:I don't know who to bring, though. Bring Mufasa, oh, yeah, speaking of, I said I'm not bringing mine. You've got enough. All mine are front. I'm not gonna bring them. My bag holds six, so I bring six. I had to take Godzilla or just put him in the fucking bag Part. Yeah, I had to take his tail off. I mean, the Harry Potter episode will come and I'm looking forward to that. I really am. It's going to be a great episode. That's going to be an end of year thing. It will happen. So, happy New Year's, everybody. It's a magical time. Here's the Harry Potter episode.
Speaker 1:I don't think Matt would fucking do it without re-watching every single fucking one. He's like, no, not till I re-watch every single one. I can't. Probably if we watched them all. I've re-watched them all recently. I've re-watched them all recently. I can re-watch them again. I watch at least one a weekend. That's a grandma yep, there's a grandma. Yep, there you go, grandma. She puts it on as background noise. I can tell you ones I like more, because there's ones I rewatch more than others. I'll just pick random ones and rewatch. I haven't watched any of the ending ones in a long-ass time.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about Deathly Hallows and Half-Blood Prince, order of the Phoenix? Death Hallows and Half-Blood Prince, order of the Phoenix, order of the Phoenix. Well, deathly Hallows. Part 2 I really like. Part 1 is, I'm not gonna lie, it's kind of slow. It is kind of slow. The first one is classic, chamber of Secrets. I like because it's dark. The first four are great Prisoner of Azkaban. That's Sirius Black's first one, so of course I love that it gets darker as he goes on. Goblet of Fire was four, right, yeah, because that gave me a meme. No, that's my boy, will Pattinson.
Speaker 1:I enjoy the one where the people are putting the sentence from the book versus the screen in the movie, where Humboldt, or calmly, goes into the room and questions Harry about why his name's in the Goblet of Fire, and then it's just the scene of people running, rushing in and yelling at Harry as he puts your name in there. Oh, my god, they're up in the like. God see, honest to God. Probably probably as classic as this.
Speaker 1:I probably rewatched the first one the least. It's the most light-hearted one. Yeah, I probably rewatched the first one the least. Yeah, for me it's the first one the most. Well, that one's the one I think. I see two and three the most on repeat. Two, yes, three, uh, secrets, probably more so. No, the Basilisk. I like Basilisk. I love Serious Blood. I still wonder though. Oh, never mind, not big enough. It's not a kaiju, not a kaiju. I mean, there's a Kamanga in there, technically Hagrid's buddy.
Speaker 1:What's that spider's name? Again. I forgot his fucking name. The fuck was that spider? Something Morrigan Gargan, matt Gargan, different type of arachnid. A scorpion's not an arachnid. I don't think what is a scorpion. I thought it was part of the arachnid family, is it? It might be, because it's got four and four. It's got eight limbs. So what did you think? It was Something Aragog? Oh, you're close, aragog. Aragog who killed Aragog Old age yeah, old age, it's weird was an old ass spider, I guess.
Speaker 1:I mean Hagrid was in his 50s when he was a kid in school, at least 30-40 years old, I think we do. We almost got to 2 anyway, but I was thinking it only took a Harry Potter rant and a Star Wars rant. Yeah, but I think we damn near have to pull. I don't know. We could review the franchise as a whole. We could damn near get two Like not two lists, but no, that's not even really a list, it'd be one list.
Speaker 1:I think we do like a ranking of the movies from our favorite to least favorite and then maybe top 10 favorite characters. Probably. That's what I think we'd probably do. Pretty easy. Ranking them would be fun. It's like we did a ranking before we did one. We did the Marvel franchises. We ranked the Marvel franchises Well. Spider-man became the top franchise. Didn't we do the Star Wars movies too? I think we did the Star Wars movies too, I Well, spider-man became the top franchise. Didn't we do the Star Wars movies too? I think we did the Star Wars movies too. I did horrible at both. I can't rank them Well.
Speaker 1:The Star Wars one was the one where I felt like the I had her bench, the Sith one and everyone else had it low as fuck. Actually, for a reason, though, I did understand. He's like hello, it wasn't bottom of your guises, but you didn't have nowhere near one like I did. I gave it much more credit than that.
Speaker 1:I am not a hating Christian. I love hating Christian. I'm not a hater for him. I'm not a hater hater. I'm gonna dub that now. I'm not a hater hater. I'm gonna dub that now. I'm not a hater hater. You turned her against me. You turned her against me. I'm sorry. The dialogue was still bad. I'm not. The dialogue was bad, but he showed emotion for everything on screen. You've done that yourself. You underestimate my power. That made I have a broken heart. See, all these are valid. I'm giving all these. They're valid. They're valid. But Matt even explained I don't know why, I'm not even that much younger, but even Matt said a lot of people love Wrenches of Sif. It's a lot of people's one, so I'm not.
Speaker 1:A lot of good things happen in the movie. Also, a lot of cringe worthy things happen, I'm sorry. A lot of good things happen in the movie. Also, a lot of cringeworthy things happen in the movie, I'm sorry. Matt is right, though. That whole Obi-Wan coming off the fucking ship and then he's choking Padme. Let her go, anakin.
Speaker 1:I don't know why my brain got stuck on the age gap between one and two. One and two. What Movie? One and two. Gap between 1 and 2. 1 and 2. What Movie? 1 and 2. Episode 1 and 2. It's not a very big one, going from what 10 to at least 16?.
Speaker 1:How old is Anakin in Episode 2? Is that what you want to know? I guess he's in the 10-11 range. He's a little ass kid in the first one. And then we got my allegiance is to the republic, to democracy 19. He's 19 in episode 2, but she's 18 in episode 1. So he's what? 10-11 in the first one. So by the time he's 19, she's 18 in episode 1. So he's what? 10, 11? So by the time he's 19, she's in a. The age gap is fine.
Speaker 1:As of the second movie in his age gap I'm talking about how there's that much time between the two he basically becomes a Jedi Knight. He literally becomes a Jedi Knight right after episode 2. Yeah, thanks to Qui-Gon Jinn, qui-gon Jinn Knight, he literally becomes a Jedi Knight right after episode 2. Yeah, thanks to old Qui-Gon Jinn, qui-gon Jinn, train the boy. I don't really want to, but I will. Why did you say that I didn't really want to train him? They are closer in age than I thought. I don't really want to, but I will.
Speaker 1:Ebby's 24 in episode 2. There's only a 5-year age difference, so I thought she was like 18 or 19 in fucking episode 1, so it's like, how many years did pass Was she? Was she 15? That's the princess there? 16? No, ah, dabu George. Look, she was 14 as queen. Okay, padme was elected queen of Naboo at 14 years old. Hey, how the fuck do you elect a 14-year-old? It's just Naboo, it is. See, I'm thinking Half the race are Gungans. Oh yeah, not that, not that I just thought of. I'm thinking of all the points in that fucking thing and again, not that I'm weird because there's a lot of people that do he elected Char charter as a senator. That's our elections.
Speaker 1:You do not want to make that joke right now because it is so horrible as far as a lot of crisis. This is no political affiliation with this joke, but I don't give a fuck. It's funny. A lot of crises going on right now. What's top? Ban TikTok. We gotta ban the TikTok. That's priority one boy, I love it, fucking love it. What's the first thing? The Empire got rid of? Freedom, of democracy, radio bandwaves, I was gonna say the funniest thing about the Star Wars episode was fucking, and again, I don't feel as weird. There's a lot of people that agree with me, but most of the points I'd say for Revenge of the Sith Matt disagreed with. It's still funny to this day, like me. It has one of the best lightsaber duels in the history of Star Wars Obi-Wan and Anakin.
Speaker 1:More hallway shit. You're gonna learn by no, no, step one to a Star Wars movie Jedi and hallway. He's still here, by the way. Well, look at that. Almost fucking perfect timing there I heard fucking perfect, fucking perfect. Who are you Pucking? You know what the term Pucking means? Pucking. I dare you to look it up on Urban Dictionary. What does Pucking mean? That's not the greatest source of up on Urban Dictionary. What does fucking mean that's not the greatest source of information when it comes from Urban Dictionary. Look up doing a Godzilla on Urban Dictionary. To the nut cave, to the nut cave. Thanks for listening. Everyone ever in the Milwaukee area Go to Lost World of Wonders for all comic and manga nerd needs and kaiju needs too. Actually, when I think about it, they do sell it. Good night everybody.
