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This episode kicks off with an unexpected twist as we dissect the bold soundtrack choices of "Gladiator 2" and compare its narrative prowess against the original masterpiece. We have a good chuckle at the historical liberties taken in the film, while also pondering the enigma that is Denzel Washington’s character. Our reflections wander through the labyrinth of Ridley Scott’s creations, with a pitstop at the humorously inaccurate yet entertaining portrayals in series like "Spartacus."
From the silver screen to the wrestling ring, our conversation is a whirlwind of pop culture banter. We swap stories, ponder casting choices with a humorous lens, and engage in speculative discussions on upcoming films like "The Last of Us" Season 2. We even imagine historical figures and settings in unexpected modern contexts, like Russell Crowe as Santa Claus, all while maintaining a mix of nostalgia and critical analysis. This episode is a playful tapestry of cinematic reflections, from war epics to sports narratives and everything in between.
Ending on a high note, we travel through our favorite historical films, argue over the merits of gritty realism, and share a laugh over the peculiarities of PETA and CGI animals. Along the way, there's a touch of football banter, with a nod to our beloved Green Bay Packers. We round it all out with a hearty discussion of Mel Gibson’s cinematic contributions, expressing our love for iconic quotes and unforgettable film moments that bridge generational gaps. Join us for a rollercoaster of laughs, insights, and the joy of storytelling in historical cinema.
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Gladiator 2 Review Analysis and Discussion
Speaker 1Hello, all welcome to the Nightfallsville podcast Gladiator 2 review. Let's all hum the song Na na, na, na na, okay.
Speaker 2Were you not entertained, were you not?
Speaker 1entertained there we go.
Speaker 3That was very entertained.
Speaker 1Very good, very good movie. Anyone who tells you it sucks it may not be the first one, but go see it. It's fun, it's a good movie.
Speaker 3To all those out there that says it was slow, it was too long. What the fuck movie were you at?
Speaker 1I thought it was paced, okay To me. If it's not paced, well I'm doing this shit, not caring what's going on. I was engaged the whole time.
Speaker 3So I'm going to talk. Let me tell you this it wasn't Hunger Games, it wasn't Well. No, tell you this it wasn't hunger games, it wasn't well. No, I only fell asleep at amazing spider-man too, because of my head injury yeah that fucking sucked.
Speaker 1You weren't there, you were in your own you were in your own imaginary world for that movie I am sorry it was a good movie.
Speaker 3I legitimately only fall asleep for hunger games, sometimes lord of the rings, I can't help it. And and spoiler alert, did one not?
Speaker 1even a gripe, just an observation Did Lucius have the aura that Russell Crowe Maximus did? No, of course not, but he did okay Of course not.
Speaker 3He didn't even build up to it.
Speaker 2No, that was going to be my biggest gripe.
Speaker 3It's like he earned the trust of the gladiators really quickly. We trust him, Like he earned the trust of the gladiators really quickly.
Speaker 2We trust him, but you didn't earn it, but the movie theater, movie watchers, shouldn't have had his trust. It's like, why are they following this?
Speaker 1guy Like what?
Speaker 2the fuck We'll see. I can tell you an injured Maximus beating the emperor healthy and our Lucius couldn't beat Denzel.
Speaker 3An old-ass Denzel. Yeah, he used to be a slave, and only his father's armor saved him. Sorry, spoilers.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I was trying to figure out Denzel's character angle because I was a little murky. At the end I was like are you trying to help Rome? I know you're trying to destroy it. Are you on Lucius' side or not? I was a little murky there. I didn't really understand, because I know he killed him. At the end I thought I was like, okay, are you dying for the good of Rome? So Lucius is yada, yada or what. I was a little confused by.
Speaker 2He's the biggest character discrepancy based on actual history.
Speaker 1Okay, because I'm like I'm trying to get your angle here. I'm like, okay, a minor gripe.
Speaker 3I was like okay whatever, this movie kind of threw me for a loop when it came to the history.
Speaker 1All that gay shit happened in Rome. A lot of it, that's not what I was talking about. I just watched Barclays. That's a dope. I love that fucking show, man.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was very pissed that they killed the king off and he didn't get to go back into a coliseum. Yeah, killed him off, his friend, because he was very much one of the big ones for seasons one, two and three of Spartacus. I was very disappointed.
Speaker 1One of the funniest things about Spartacus was fucking John Hanna. Dude from the fucking Mummy in that bitch. That was like their fucking. You know how many times I watch.
Speaker 3He's a favorite actor of mine, no matter what he did.
Speaker 1You know how many times I watch Spartacus. I always die when it cuts to a man-woman orgy. Almost once an episode like here we go again. No, and I wasn't dreaming. I was there like you think I?
Speaker 3was Are you with man or woman? No, you legit got the Roman question Are you with man or woman?
Speaker 1I made the joke during them. I'm like God, I'd fit in Roman times.
Speaker 3I'd fit in. You just want them to pull on your beard.
Speaker 1I'll pull on my beard. There weren't many beards in LA. It's like these weak ass beard game. Where's a lot of good beards? What the fuck?
Speaker 3I don't know what were your historical discrepancies?
Speaker 1I only oh, matt, let Matt say something. I had one big one which was go ahead. I I almost cringed when. I almost cringed when they were talking about the Battle of Salamis. I'm like Trojans, spartans what the fuck dude Fucking Troy was. Troy is mythical. Some people say it was real, some say not. But I'm like Troy was in Turkey. No Spartans, no, that bugged me a little bit, because I'm like Tro was in Turkey. No Spartans, no, that bugged me a little bit because I'm like Trojans. The fuck. Matt knew what I was. He knew I was like that's not the Trojans, but it's okay, the Persians and the Spartans.
Speaker 2So to be fair, Ridley Scott has messed with history before. In the first one it wasn't as bad as this one. We knew he was going off the rails with this one, yeah well, in the first one it kind of played out correctly With Commodus taking over for Marcus Aurelius and whatever. Now, in the actual mythology or history, commodus didn't kill his dad.
Speaker 2Yeah that we know of. Well, it says dies of natural causes for Marcus Aurelius, which is how it kind of. Well, technically, he was just strangled, so you can. He was already dying, yeah, but Commodus was strangled to death in a conspiracy involving Praeoritan prefects, not killed in a gladiatorial arena.
Speaker 3I don't know why that word always gets to me when I hear it Praetorian, yeah, praetorian.
Speaker 2So here's the thing. It's that the movie took place 16 years after the death of Marcus Aurelius. Which would be Wait a minute Marcus Aurelius Plot hole number one. Marcus Aurelius died in 1800.
Speaker 3How the fuck. No wonder they did that little math thing he was 12?
Speaker 2Yeah, so he would have died in 180 AD. Commodus died in 192 AD. Was Lucius born? Luke just doesn't, as far as I know, doesn't actually exist, was he?
Speaker 3born at the death of Marcus.
Speaker 1Supposedly.
Speaker 2But the timeline's loosey-goosey there.
Speaker 3Because by the time we get the gladiatorial arena with Maximus in it, he's 12. So 16 years later would have been four years after he went off as a kid.
Speaker 2So communist died in 192. Uh, greta and carkelia took power in 20 to 11. Took power in 2211. So 18 years after Commodus' death. So add 18 years on top of so they're trying to send it. So they're playing loosey-goosey with the timeline. To be fair, and technically, another omission was when Greta died.
Speaker 3Uh-huh, technically, carcalia served six years after as the only Okay guys see, the movie could have been so much longer yeah, At least an hour, but Kerkalia did kill Greta. At the behest of somebody, or is it just?
Speaker 2Murdered on order of his brother and Kerkalia was killed in an instigation by Macrinus. So that played true, denzel. So that followed the actual timeline. The timeline was off.
Speaker 3I can't hear his name without hearing Macrina.
Speaker 2Yeah, and then Macrinus was actually emperor for a year Before he was killed, versus an hour.
Speaker 1They totally could have played that out in the movie I'm trying to figure out if it's going, because I just seen it Gladiator 3 is going to happen. It's in early stages of development and it shouldn't. Yes, they're making a third one.
Speaker 2And Lucius was never emperor.
Speaker 1Well, I'm wondering they're going to. They're in like the if. What they're saying? Wanting Marcus Aurelius' true Roman shit. Okay, so are you trying to get to like the prime of Rome? Here You're not getting to. You mean Rome here You're not getting to. You mean Augustus. You're not getting to. You're not getting the fucking fall because you start doing the fall of Rome and you gotta split them bitches into two empires and shit.
Speaker 3Oh no, you're gonna love the shit out of that then, because then you're gonna have Christianity everywhere.
Speaker 2Augustus was 27 BC and we're in 190-something AD.
Speaker 1They're getting close to the fall of Rome. They should put the Visigoths in there and that shit over. Don't get, no get off of his. Here I go.
Speaker 2What's the whole point of this one? Technically not. The Visigoths are the one who sacked Rome. No, I'm saying I don't think we're close to the fall of Rome, yet Okay. No Visigoths, because we're in 100, like I said, we're in like 190 something AD and technically the last emperors were in 476.
Speaker 1Because the Western Roman Empire fell At that one. Western Rome was two empires at that time when the Visigoths sackedacked. That was.
Speaker 2Western Rome. Yeah, well, I'm saying the dominant era, the last Eastern empires, is after that.
Speaker 1Yeah, because if they do East, then they got the Byzantines and that's my sect of Christians and shit. So I'm hyped for that shit, constantine.
Speaker 3I did actually appreciate them mentioning Britannia.
Speaker 2Emperor Constantine. I mean, you just got the old words in there because you knew they existed back then. It doesn't really matter, emperor.
Speaker 3Constantine. So, yeah, that's one thing that I am missing out on is, you know, we don't have enough historical movies during that period, the Byzantium, roman-led Britannia, and if there, are movies, I don't know them.
Speaker 1The capital of the Eastern Empire was Constantinople, now modern-day Istanbul, because the Turks took that over. Fuck you. That's who sacked Constantinople.
Speaker 3No, no, no. I just wanted to do the dance in my head.
Speaker 2And another accurate thing was dance in my head. And another accurate thing was Macrinus was the first emperor that wasn't part of the Senate, so that kind of was true in what he did.
Speaker 3He never did get a part of the Senate?
Speaker 2Nope, he just was immediately consul, yeah, so technically the loose stuff was fine.
Speaker 3Is there a mention of a monkey in there? No. Oh god, that was messed up.
Speaker 2I kept hearing dingus.
Speaker 3I wasn't alone. Alright, that's good to know. You're calling the monkey dingus.
Speaker 2You didn't come poop To downgrade the movie a little bit outside of that because Okay, because I was going to have a couple more phrases.
Speaker 1Okay, what are we on now?
Speaker 2Well, I don't think there's a quotable line out of this movie versus the two or three out of the movie Strength and Honor rehashed.
Speaker 1They reused all the best lines. Oh, another one, Another thing kind of. This movie is almost a copy-paste of the first one. It is almost copy-paste.
Speaker 3We knew it.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Copy-paste I will say he did deliver his speech damn near as well as Russell did. Which speech the end?
Speaker 2one. We are soldiers. Yeah, the end one was good. The intro one was not. Yeah, really Like I wasn't that inspired with him on the wall with the barbarians Versus Russell delivered his very well and I would have charged into battle for it Before the snow fight.
Speaker 1Yeah the intro one it's like I am Maximus generals of the Army of the North, loyal to the true general, the true emperor of Rome, Marcus Aurelius, and that's one of six or seven quotes you can make from this one.
Speaker 2I don't know if I remember a single line of dialogue from this movie.
Speaker 1Oh, geta had me dying. I'm like I'm sitting there watching this man. I'm like are you trying your best to be Joaquin Phoenix, in a way? I got very, joaquin vibes.
Speaker 3Dean, I know damn well the lines that you memorized in the movie. They were all Denzel's.
Speaker 1Oh, all the fucking. I read that they cut a scene of him kissing dude. Yeah, they did so. I was waiting for you Cut it I wouldn't have even bitched.
Speaker 3That's accurate. Ridley didn't want to admit it. He said no, would have even bitched, that's accurate. Ridley didn't want to admit it. He said no, we didn't cut it out the movie. Well, they were already kissing each other. I'm pretty sure it would be a total Denzel thing to grab him by the face and kiss him on the mouth.
Speaker 1That shit was normal in Rome. That shit was normal in Greece. That's why I'll never get mad about them putting that in the movies. That shit was normal.
Film Analysis and Nostalgic Reflections
Speaker 2The most memorable were from the trailers Because I got to see them so often they didn't play Kanye in the movie.
Speaker 1Kanye was in one of the first trailers. They played no Church in the Wild with Jay-Z. It was fucking funny.
Speaker 2That was why it was getting shit. It's like why are you putting rap music in the intro Of a gladiator movie?
Speaker 3Didn't they put modern music in the first gladiator? No, I went and watched the original trailer no that was awesome.
Speaker 2It's all Clash's bangs and Arbor Higgins' metal and the symphony.
Speaker 1Oh, I'm gladiator.
Speaker 2But now, no, now you got Kanye yeah now you get. Kanye, synonymous with symphony, and. Hey you do rock the right way you can get that stuff. If you're a listener, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3Wouldn't that be some shit. Kanye listens to us.
Speaker 2Oh wow, I guess we gotta start talking about Flat Earther then.
Speaker 3Oh, I wanted to. Is he really a Flat Earther? That's what I thought. I remember I wanted.
Speaker 1Didn't Kyrie hear me? I wanted, oh God, kyrie, really a flat earther. That's what I thought I remember I wanted to praise the cinematography and the scene. It was a beautiful movie. It was shot good.
Speaker 2I actually have an offense to that.
Speaker 3I liked the scenes. I called out one scene to him and he had to make the fucking joke. You know when they're scraping the horn of the rhino. I said, hey, you know what they're doing with that.
Speaker 2He's like like yeah, I don't need it I thought parts of the movie looked too clean really I could see it for a 180 movie.
Speaker 3I thought things looked too clean even the peasants clothes were kind of yeah, oh, but the fight choreographed was great.
Speaker 1I love their fights, aside from when we were in the arena people's faces were even kind of.
Speaker 2No, they didn't take the consideration of detail as much as they did with the originals.
Speaker 3Yeah, because I remember Maximus's. What was that?
Speaker 2the lieutenant that rushed up to him and talked to him Cicero, which is why they quoted which is funny that they quoted it for the playwright in the movie. For this one they said his name. Yeah, they did.
Speaker 1Oh, I just remembered one gripe, pretty big gripe. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it but I never got it. I thought it was the guy at the beginning, but I was pissed because I just had to look and clarify Was it the chief? Where was Juba? I was pissed. They didn't bring back any of the characters when they were chief. I wanted Juba back. Man that was Maximus' black friend that buried his statues, his little figures, in the sand. Not yet. I'm so pissed. I love Juba.
Speaker 3I almost thought that was going to be him as the chieftain. I love it. It better not be him.
Speaker 1You don't kill Juba like that, no fucking way. He just took it, though. Okay, I'm going to be honest with you. Though he let the baboon bite him, there's a reason. It's Maximus and his black bestie. So you understand, mike. You're like God damn it. Dean, yeah, we know you. I was like that's Lowe. Where's Lowe, god? Damn it, you leave him alone. He probably has a free life now chilling. You want him to come back and die. You're dead, Shit You're always killing Lola.
Speaker 3He don't deserve that.
Speaker 1Well, he wasn't even in the movie, so I was like you were.
Speaker 3Juba. No, he was in the movie somewhere. I know you related to somebody and you was like alright, he's dead. Not really, not really.
Speaker 1I like Maximus In this whole movie.
Speaker 3You didn't actually relate to anyone, not much, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2Lucius was basically copy-paste of Maximus, but dollar store team over team over Dollar store Maximus, basically.
Speaker 3Not that he did bad, but you can't follow up. He even tried to match the voice.
Speaker 1You can't follow up Russell Crowe man, even though, oh, my dad looked up a.
Speaker 2I was going to look up. I don't know what Russell Crowe, one of his earliest roles were. That was the other thing I was gonna look my dad looked up uh, russell crowe.
Speaker 1Now my dad's like what happened to russell crowe? He's fat. Now like, yep, yeah, he got old, he's 60, he's 60, man, let him be. Let him, let him be fat and happy.
Speaker 3Yeah, dude why do you think Santa's so jolly? You don't give a fuck. Give me my cookies give me my cookies.
Speaker 1Give me my goddamn cookies. Be sure to leave a side of milk out a side of milk.
Speaker 2I wouldn't want him to be Santa Claus. Russell Crowe no.
Speaker 3I could have swore we already had a movie where he was.
Speaker 2I don't think so. I still have problems with him as Zeus. Well, that wasn't that bad. I still have problems with him. That was not that bad. He's got seven movies upcoming. I didn't know about Last Druid Including Kramer.
Speaker 3Get off of fantasy.
Speaker 1I know I should. I just want to see if you're going to win.
Speaker 2You care more about him winning than he does.
Speaker 1I want.
Speaker 2Jay to get wins. He's in last place for a reason. I gave no shits this year.
Speaker 3I gave no shits this year.
Speaker 1God, I'm trying to think of some more, for I like Pedro in the movie I did. I like Pedro he movie I did. I like Pedro. He didn't need to get five million arrows, but that was shit.
Speaker 3How did every single one of them miss Lucius? I don't think they were aiming for him?
Speaker 2Yeah, gladiator basically was his breakout role, wasn't it? Russell Crowe yeah, russell, I don't recognize any of the movies beforehand. Name them off. Want movies? Yeah, fine, because he's got episodes Living with the Law. That's a TV series, right? Blood Oath Sounds familiar. Looks like the Crossing Also sounds familiar. Proof, the Efficiency Expert, police, rescue, romper, stomper Hammers Over the Anvil. Love in Limbo, the Silver Brumby.
Speaker 3Sadly, every single one of them, I believe, I have seen, because they're like movies that they put on TV For the Moment, the Some of Us the Quick and the Dead.
Speaker 2That sounds familiar. No Way Back, virtuosity, rough Magic, la Confidential.
Speaker 3LA Confidential.
Speaker 2Breaking Up Heaven's Burning Mystery Alaska and the Insider. What are the Insider? Oh, the Insider. Hmm, that had Al Pacino in it.
Speaker 2So that would explain why that one, but that was literally 1999, and Gladiator's two times. That's awesome. Then you got A Beautiful Mind Mastering Commander Probably oh, it's new shit. Then you got him in every role. I know him for Gladiator, A Beautiful Mind Master and Commander, Cinderella, man 310 to Yuma, American Gangster, Body of Lies, Robin Hood that's when you get to. Those are the movies I know him for, Wasn't that Ridley Scott?
Speaker 1Robin Hood yeah, was it. It might have been. I'm curious. Now, for some reason I'm Yep, not a bad movie, but again Half the movies I just said were Ridley Scott.
Speaker 2Russell Crowe Tell me I'm wrong Was 310 to Unimo.
Speaker 3Ridley Scott, I can't tell you I don't know, I can't tell you, nope. James Van Gold.
Speaker 1I love that movie. It has a great remake talking about cowboys. That's another set of movies we could use some more. Of Westerns are fucking American.
Speaker 2Gangster Wrigley Scott Yep.
Speaker 3Speaking of that, I never watched Horizon, anybody else.
Speaker 2Huh, horizon? Yeah, no, I didn't watch it, it was too long. There's four of them. There's supposed to be four of them.
Speaker 3We only have one so far.
Speaker 2Yeah, they cancelled the second one because nobody went to go see the first one. What the fuck, nobody wanted a three hour cowboy movie.
Speaker 1That's because we don't have John Wayne anymore. John Wayne, my motherfucking.
Speaker 3I give him credit for trying.
Speaker 1My motherfucking John.
Speaker 2Wayne, I'm not mad at him for trying, but I didn't. It came out during other movies too. Let me double check.
Speaker 1Speaking to the audience. I know Westerns because all of your grandparents watch Westerns. My grandparents worshipped Westerns, Westerns, Westerns. I don't know my grandpa. Go in that living room. John Wayne was on World War II movies and Westerns.
Speaker 3And. World War.
Speaker 1II movies.
Speaker 3My dad was in World War II movies. My grandmother was the Westerns, I bet you.
Speaker 1How's your grandma?
Speaker 2Or really, how's your grandma?
Speaker 1I'm going to ask her about John Wayne. What do?
Speaker 3you know about John Wayne. She's the one who loves period pieces. She's the reason I love Sherlock Holmes and stuff like that, because of mysteries. And Inspector Pearl you ever heard of him. Yeah. Homes and stuff like that because of mysteries. And Inspector Perot you ever heard of him? The fucking mustache yeah, you're talking about fucking the same guy that was on the three movies like the Death on an Island, yeah.
Speaker 2Kenneth Branagh. I like those movies. It came out at the same time as Bike Riders, a Quiet Place Day Zero Maxine and Despicable Me. Oh man, oh fuck.
Speaker 3Yeah, it wasn't winning over Despicable Me.
Speaker 2No. And then Twisters and Deadpool. Wolverine came two weeks after it. It wasn't gonna survive what. I'm sorry, horizon, you put that movie in a clusterfuck.
Speaker 3Yeah, I was wondering why it was on HBO Max and Chapter 2 was supposed to come out two months after it, ouch, and it didn't even touch anything.
Speaker 2That one would have gotten hurt too, because it had Alien, romulus Crow and Beetlejuice, beetlejuice. Oh God, none of those movies were going to make money. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1The last really good Western to me Django Unchained.
Speaker 2Yes, I didn't mind the new Magnificent Seven reboot.
Speaker 1It was all right, I didn't mind that. I didn't mind that. What was the?
Speaker 3last cowboy movie.
Speaker 2I watched the last cowboy movie I watched featured Mr Wisconsin and fuck Goblin William Dafoe. William Dafoe and Christopher Waltz Dead for a dollar, I think, or something along those lines.
Speaker 3Nope, I can't count that.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, hateful Eight. I like Hateful Eight, that's Tarantino, that's relatively recent. Yeah, that's recent. Westerns are kind of dying there ain't. Westerns are few and far between they were Cowboys versus Aliens.
Speaker 3I still can't believe that's a comic book.
Speaker 2I believe it is a comic book over a movie.
Speaker 3It wasn't a bad movie. Okay, it wasn't horrible. It was a weird movie. If you didn't know anything going into it, you were definitely like, well, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2I didn't know going into that movie and it's like this movie's fine. I'm how old when I'm watching? How old am I when that movie comes out? Cowboys and Aliens 2011. Jesus Christ, I was 19. 19.
Speaker 1Dude, should I, nope, nope, no, I shouldn't, no, I can't Low key. I was 21.
Speaker 2What, yeah, you were two more years older than't. No, I can't Low key I was 21.
Speaker 1What, yeah, you were 20 years older than me. Oh God, westerns are a dying form of cinema. They're dying. What would you call a gladiator? Historical epic? Yeah, historic, it's not a western.
Speaker 3Oh, you think that's a western, no, no, no, I was asking because I want more like it. Historical. You imagine if I don't want dramas, or I mean this is a drama but not. You imagine if John Wayne played Maximus Good lord?
Speaker 1You hear the spurs coming out of that movie. I'm the sheriff in town now, Romans.
Speaker 2Why is that counted as a western? What I'll get to it in a minute.
Speaker 1I'm the sheriff, son of a bitch. No, we don't. No, no, god damn it. Westerns no, grandpa's up there smiling like, yeah, you talk about westerns, it's counting prey as a western. It's during Indian times. You can get it there. You can get it there.
Speaker 3You can get it there. It's during Indian times.
Rambling Discussion on Gladiator and Movies
Speaker 1Oh God, and there's white men in there.
Speaker 2Though the one that really got me to laugh was fucking Call of the Wild. This is what Westerns are now With Harrison Ford. As a Western, I mean to be fair. It's not wrong, it takes place in the West Low key.
Speaker 1if you put John Wayne in Prey, that movie probably lasts 10 minutes because John Wayne probably would have low diffed. Why am I hyping John Wayne now Speaking?
Speaker 2of which they did just announce that for Predator Badlands, the Predator will be the main character, Ooh.
Speaker 3That's new for them.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's something they haven't done before.
Speaker 3Ah, sort of, they're kind of taking a concept they wanted to do, yeah they just never had anybody actually try to do it Very true, very true.
Speaker 1But yeah, if I had to pick a movie, genre, that just kind of.
Speaker 3They've had the idea ever since Predator 2.
Speaker 1Oh, that's my motherfucker. I love that movie. God that I hate people. Predator 2 sucked. It was the worst Predator. No, the worst Predator movie is that Shane Black one Predators. That movie sucked ass. And second, predator 2 is fucking so much fun. You go to hell. Does that come out as a Western?
Speaker 2What so much fun. You go to hell. Does that count as a western? What now? A country?
Speaker 1for old men. Eh, you can, I like that. My motherfucker's in there, javi there, my motherfucker's in there. Isn't there a fucking song that goes with?
Speaker 2that Fuck this list. Number two Logan, I'm out, I'm out. No, it's not.
Speaker 1Just because you take place in the western part of the country and there's desert, that's a western Bro. No.
Speaker 2No, just don't do that over you and we're fine Huh.
Speaker 3You did this motion oh.
Speaker 1I was, I guess I'd actually I'd rather have you do the Trump dance. Okay yeah, western the one. All bad Westerns are getting what they have to lump in the Western. We could shoot a Western. We go to fucking Arizona and ride horses on it. We shoot a Western. Do you know how to ride a horse? Jiggy J's eyes lit.
Speaker 3He's like I'm trying not to make a joke. Try not to make a joke. Do'm trying not to make a joke. Do you think he really wants to ride a horse when he feels like a horse himself?
Speaker 2I don't know, as long as I'm not the one riding him. You walked right into that. You didn't expect that, jj, it's only his toe.
Speaker 3JJ is the only one small enough to ride him.
Speaker 1He or you would break him. Man, jj looked like a goddamn cowboy. If I cast him, I think he'd be a cowboy. I'm like JJ if they ever make another movie about Josie Wales, I'm going to cast you.
Speaker 2Just the American version of Daniel Craig.
Speaker 3Yeah, but knowing you, you'd put JJ behind the bar and he'd be the one that's always spitting into the can. Oh, we know, jj would be in the stockade.
Speaker 1I just imagine him getting Running pisses on the sheriff. I just imagine him getting drug around by a horse.
Speaker 2Come on, you tell me you never want to throw a tomato at JJ. Drug around by a horse. Come on, you're telling me you never want to throw a tomato at JJ. He missed his calling as the fucking renaissance fair person or a rodeo clown. Oh him as a clown. Oh boy, yeah, there's your problem right there. You ain't getting him in the makeup. He'd look in the mirror.
Speaker 3Ah, why is that making me think of how resilient that gladiator armor was?
Speaker 2That was another problem.
Speaker 3It's like my brain went so off-tandem.
Speaker 1No, that was Maximus, that was the power of the fatherly bond and the friendship. Oh, jesus Christ, I just made this I just made this fairy tale.
Speaker 2No, the original concept for Gladiator 2 was more fairytale than what we got. The original concept was more Dante's Inferno.
Speaker 3Why would I have been okay with that? Because I like my biblical stuff, especially with as many death scenes as we got. There was A live action Dante's Inferno would be fucking amazing.
Speaker 2So when you told me before the movie, I didn't get to finish this thought because we were getting food. So when you asked me, it's like there's no magical kid for Pedro. Yeah, I knew that he was basically the stepdad of what's his name. So I was like, technically, technically. So I'm like technically. Technically.
Speaker 1The Magical Dad. Shit's gonna start coming back. There's more clips of Last of Us Season 2 coming now, so here comes Magic Dad again, and not to mention Mandalorian and Grogu.
Speaker 3Isn't he supposed to get his head?
Speaker 2caved in by a golf club.
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 2We don't know if that's happening in Season 2.
Speaker 1Yeah, the chick they cast as Abby. I ain't even really I ain't buying it yet until I see them. I'm like she's supposed to be a big beefcake. Where the fuck this?
Speaker 2ain't Abby, they aren't going to make her a big beefcake. Big beefcake why?
Speaker 3not. They missed that so much.
Speaker 1God, now you got me thinking about that game, and how offended I am still by that game.
Speaker 3My bad. You're the reason I even know this game. You want depression.
Speaker 1Play that game. It'll just give you depression. That's all it does. Don't get it. I'll never say it's a bad game. It's a great game, it's a phenomenal game, but it just gives you depression.
Speaker 2And three is in development.
Speaker 1Oh my.
Speaker 3God, it's going to be even more depressing.
Speaker 1How don't cash grab on a 3? They don't cash grab on Resident Evil. You can keep going with them.
Speaker 3I understand cash grabbing on those, because you can actually create something different and you can kill off your main characters create a new character.
Speaker 1So fucking easy, low key. So sorry, we'll get back on historical gladiator shit eventually, will we? Maybe not, I don't know, but this is filler talk. I died in the arena oh jesus, oh my god, what you died in the arena. I brought us back to gladiator, oh my god. But no, the rumor, the rumors for the for eight rumor for resident evil 9, is jill and leon going to be the main characters. I'm like, oh, I'm back in.
Speaker 2It's okay, I've only been depressed by the movie news going on.
Speaker 3I'll snideway him in easily. Hey, what'd you think of that rhino in the arena? The rhino was cool that rhino.
Speaker 1Just it had the best death or kill it had to splat, rhino didn't kill.
Speaker 2Yeah, we don't even know if the rhino died from that it had the best.
Speaker 1It was just standing there chilling. At the end it had the best kill with the gorse.
Speaker 3You know, what would have been actually better Is if they had that fight scene.
Speaker 1And then we had the party where the rhino's head was on the table, but no, it was in reverse. I liked when Lucius had to go. All had to go. Anakin, I'm like ooh, we're trying to go Anakin Go Dooku.
Speaker 2I really wanted to complain that the boats didn't have enough area to perform ramming speed well. To damage a boat. Why'd?
Speaker 3the word ramming make you lose.
Speaker 1Why'd you have? I went down the wrong pipe.
Speaker 2Talk about poetic. Yup, I don't think there was enough room in the Coliseum to do full ram speed of that. But to be fair, I don't know how well put together those ships were. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1They actually filled the fucker with water. That is true. They did that. Every once in a while they did do that but, they did not put sharks in there. They did not do that. They didn't have the technology to bring sharks from yeah the fuck. Even though it was cool, I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 3Let's throw some sharks.
Speaker 1Just like the motherfucker. They just wanted to keep bringing deadly animals in there. No, they probably had the random motherfucker who put the shit stains in Smile 2 in the underwear to make that motherfucking scene. Put some sharks in there. That motherfucker needs to make his own movie, you're pissed.
Speaker 2You're like god damn it. And you got the tiger cameo at the end of the movie just to throw it in there.
Speaker 1Yeah, what's up. Tiger's like what's up.
Speaker 3What's with not using the fucking mastiff? The entire movie.
Speaker 2I'm just going to continue showing them.
Speaker 3Wait, that was a mastiff, I was like Saint Bernard, it was Saint Bernard.
Speaker 2I was more intimidated by the guy that Maximus had to fight one-on-one to avoid being killed than I did for the guy on a rhino. Yeah. I felt more intimidated by the rhino than I did the guy riding him.
Speaker 3That's kind of familiar. Yeah, like they chose a UFC fighter as a cameo.
Speaker 2Well, to be fair, the captain of the Prioritan Guard was a guy from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 3Are you?
Speaker 2talking about the bigger guy. Yeah, the bigger guy with the big helmet. That was the Hound from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 3I wouldn't know. I never watched. I get shit for that all the time?
Speaker 2Did you watch Knuckles the bad guy in the finale of that's the hound the one that was in the mech suit that wanted Knuckles' power.
Speaker 3I could tell I could have swore he was bald in that, though.
Speaker 2Yeah, but he had the helmet on the entire time. Oh, I see His name's, rory.
Speaker 1That was a Fucking Knuckles. That was a fucking knuckle. That's a show button. For a show called Knuckles. It barely had knuckles in it Way of the warrior. Oh yeah, Jay said that'd be my one gripe with knuckles. I'm watching this for knuckles. Where is he?
Speaker 3He's in it a lot. He is and he isn't.
Speaker 1It's like it's one of those weird things I don't give a no, it's fucking Jurassic Park and shit and kaiju movies all over. I don't give a fuck about the people. Give me Knuckles. He's trying to argue it, but he's having trouble.
Speaker 2I was taking Knuckles in a whole different way.
Speaker 1Oh fuck.
Speaker 3Fuck the people. Is it our fault? He automatically just does that motion Give me the knuckles Bros never. Bros, never been to Vegas.
Speaker 2I've been to Texas. It's almost as bad.
Speaker 3Texas. You might still have the scratch marks to prove it.
Pop Culture Ramblings and Banter
Speaker 1I mean God. What are we, since we're on kind of random? What are we at? For time? We're probably fine. I don't know if we'll hit an hour. I don't know if we're on an hour. Time check people, time check we have only been talking for a half an.
Speaker 2How much more do you want me to go into bad news? We got bad news.
Speaker 1Oh shit, he gets more of them. Half of them updates. I got to swipe away. Matt actually reads them, so I miss a lot of them.
Speaker 3So, matt's kind of in the loop, we got to talk about the Bears, the Bears, oh God, bad news Bears, don't offend.
Speaker 1That could be a segment. No, don't offend our Chicago listener base. If we have any, they're already pissed.
Speaker 2We don't have football fans why?
Speaker 3Come on, what's his last name?
Speaker 1Wrigley.
Speaker 2After a field Name's Matthew Wrigley. Oh, I thought you were pointing to Tiamat.
Speaker 3That'd be a little weird. Matthew T thought you were pointing to Tiamat. That'd be a little weird, matthew.
Speaker 1Tiamat, what Tiamat? Okay, what is all this bad news? Let's get the press.
Speaker 4These little. What the Star Wars news? Was it something with Rey?
Speaker 1Yeah, I thought that was canceled. I didn't listen.
Speaker 2I heard Rey. They have a writer working on episodes 10, 11, and 12.
Speaker 3Featuring Rey.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 3I thought that was cancelled.
Speaker 2Nope. Because the fans said no the Rey solo movie still exists, but they haven't done anything with it yet. Now they're working on episodes 9, or 9, 10, or 10, 11, and 12.
Speaker 3Kill Rey off and start the Force over Nope, main character. You're fucking stupid.
Speaker 2Uh-huh. No one wants that. They're never going to fucking learn and we can't get rid of Kathleen Kennedy unless they get a win. Problem is, they're all losers.
Speaker 3We were happy. We were happy with episode seven. Seven. Seven started you off right.
Speaker 2Eight. Then he threw it all the way, like Luke threw away his lightsaber.
Speaker 3And then nine I'm Skywalker. What the fuck you mean?
Speaker 2I'm Rey Rey. Mysterio what I'm gonna get in on a wrestling bench. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3Well, it can't be any worse than his son basically becoming 30.
Speaker 2Dom.
Speaker 3Yeah, oh God. And how? How Come on? He's got one of the best women as his girlfriends in that entire business? Fuck you, Dom.
Speaker 1Don't get me started on him dumping. Rhea for Liv Morgan. Don't get me started, please. How do you know that? Oh, tiktok I'm like I do watch occasionally.
Speaker 2I just don't make it. I don't. I still do that what?
Speaker 1I don't have TikTok or anything. Maria Ripley is my queen. That is my queen. That is one of my queens.
Speaker 3She's a lot of people's queens.
Speaker 1She's still hurt. No, she's back, isn't she? Yeah, she's back. She's got her mask on. She's back Saturday, which I have to watch. Remember, that's the only reason I have peacock.
Speaker 3You know what she does for me. What Brings back China memories? Kinda. But she's oddly hotter. I don't know what I want to say there. I don't agree there. More feminine yes.
Speaker 1Definitely, there you go. That's the word. She's a strong, independent woman, but with strength. You were more worried China would kill you. What? There you go. She's a strong, independent woman, but with strength.
Speaker 2I don't know if they got that. You were more worried.
Speaker 3Chyna would kill you what?
Speaker 2You were more worried, chyna would kill you. I probably would enjoy it. Well, we know that.
Speaker 3At the time she's right up there with Zeta.
Speaker 1Why the fuck is wrestling a thing. The other guy for wrestling ain't here. That could be a podcast, low-key.
Rambling Banter and Pop Culture Chatter
Speaker 2There's a lot of things we do. There's NFL stuff I want to do with the two of you.
Speaker 1I'd be game.
Speaker 2for that I'd be useless.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, you'd be here. You could chime in for jokes.
Speaker 3I am literally just here for jokes. You could chime in that's my whole life.
Speaker 2You're a joke, make jokes. I'd want to draft an all-time team against you two. Oh, that'd be fun. A what? An all-time team, an NFL all-time team. I don't know how good he'd do with that, though. No against, I'm talking about him and the Hobbit, not him, no even.
Speaker 1JJ, he don't.
Speaker 2I don't know how much he, he gets to, but he knows how recent players that he can draft recent players. Oh, I guess yeah 90s to now.
Speaker 3I'd be okay with, but before that.
Speaker 2I don't know. I mean technically it wouldn't be hard. All of you except me and him would probably struggle with a line.
Speaker 1Some offensive line.
Speaker 3That's where I can actually pay more attention to defense than I do anything else.
Speaker 2It's like somebody takes Bakhtiari you're fucked.
Speaker 1Is there any other depressing movie news?
Speaker 2I mean nothing great as of right now. Everything's either being switched around or moved around for the end of year, Because nobody wants to compete for the end of the year this year.
Speaker 3You know what I just realized, since you said depressing, almost every main character in this movie died off, except for one.
Speaker 2Yeah, kind of Depending on how you feel about the doctor.
Speaker 3Yeah, that kind of is a main.
Speaker 1So two Take a look for that opium.
Speaker 2I laughed at that one.
Speaker 3Well, yeah, that fits. What did he call it? Dragon's Breath Denzel.
Speaker 1I sell Dragon's. Breath. Look at that Roman time, such simple time. You could do heroin in the fucking in public and only gave it to him.
Speaker 2I mean technically that was true for the first one too. You had the subpar black guy main character and the mom live and technically Lucius, but A lot of people mean the command king.
Speaker 3So we went from three to two.
Speaker 2You killed off the senator that was alive in the first one and died in the second one.
Speaker 1Yeah, he got killed. He got just random killed by a fucking by a fucking extra he just got killed he just got killed.
Speaker 3He just got killed by an extra. He Han Solo'd himself.
Speaker 2I mean not any worse than the king.
Speaker 1How about fucking Emperor getting Kulk whatever? I forgot his name with the C Kel whatever, calicus, calicus, whatever.
Speaker 2I remember Geta Calculus. It's Geta and Calarus or something.
Speaker 1Yeah, calarus, something like that, but he gets stabbed in the fucking ear with that pin. I'm like, oh yeah, that was a gruesome death.
Speaker 2It was more so than Greta's.
Speaker 1You know what it took, every fight.
Speaker 3Give your head saw off versus just a pin in the ear Dude a pin in the ear.
Speaker 2doesn't kill you right away With so much blood loss.
Speaker 1Geta was dead by like the third, fucking and unconscious, so he didn't feel half of that.
Speaker 2And after watching too much Delia's Warrior, you learn how hard it is to actually saw off a head. So when when he scissored it. Yeah, it's like that. Don't work that way.
Speaker 3God, I hate my brain, I can't say that word. Scissors yeah, when he scissored it.
Speaker 1I was thinking of scissors when he said scissors, I thought of it.
Speaker 3Technically he didn't scissor it. Scissoring is the oh nope, here we go, there we go. Now it makes more sense. Oh my, I couldn't do it this way because knuckles were getting in the way.
Speaker 2And now you know where my brain went.
Speaker 3Oh, no, no, it's too rough if you do it this way. Yeah, like he hears about rough.
Speaker 1Well, he doesn't. I don't care, I don't care, I just don't care. Let's see why. Why, what? We got back, gladiator at least.
Speaker 2It's not hard to do. There's not a lot to talk about with the movie, though we're comparing it to an original.
Speaker 3Pretty horsies, pretty hoosies, if you wanted jokes pretty horsies.
Speaker 1Oh, I was extremely.
Speaker 3Ugly baboons yeah. Cgi baboons yeah. That is actually kind of sad. They couldn't get a real one in there anywhere. They weren't going to have to kill a real baboon. No, I mean just for reference. You don't have a real one stand in. Could you imagine a?
Speaker 1field day PETA would have had with that movie if they killed a baboon in there, holy fuck. Oh my God, the movie would be boycotted.
Speaker 3Nobody cares about PETA as soon as we started feeding the sharks.
Speaker 1That's kind of true PETA's kind mojo.
Speaker 2It lost any credibility it had when it went after Steve Irwin.
Speaker 3Yeah, people went after the one guy trying to save animals.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3And help you understand them.
Speaker 1They're still looking for that stingray, but it's like Steve wouldn't want this.
Speaker 3Oh my god, even his son understands that.
Speaker 1I'd love to go to Australia. That shit would be dope. That would be dope. I wouldn't go to the outback though.
Speaker 3That's where you'd start filming Gladiator 3. Deenicus versus Kangaroos, kangaroos.
Speaker 1Oh my god, that would be a great.
Speaker 3Deen squaring up with the kangaroos. That would be a great country to film up With the kangaroos.
Speaker 1That'd be a great Fucking country To film that In a lot of desert, a lot of Outback Even though I won't Go to Outback they got some Really fucked up. They got fucking spiders as big as half Of this fucking table.
Speaker 2I was gonna say you don't like the restaurant. Fuck that. What?
Speaker 3Never been there actually.
Speaker 1Forrest Rock Outback oh, Outback Outback Steakhouse.
Speaker 2Not that bad Trip on the bob oh it's fucking bobby.
Speaker 1I mean, if you want to fucking reference, what was it? Oh, was it anyone? But him. Powell and Sweeney Meatcap. That's what Meatcap. That's a. That's an Australian name for your dick A meatcap, meatcap.
Speaker 3You just love that word, don't you?
Speaker 2Yeah, that's his word, that was the word of being him watching Meatcap. Of the two things that he took out of that movie Meatcap, three things, sorry, there were three things he took out of the movie. Meatcap was one of them. What was the other? Sidney Sweeney. Sidney Sweeney was two.
Speaker 1The third one, was Unwritten, one of the I don't know if it'll ever be topped the greatest kind of random movie me and Matt ever went to see. I don't think it'll ever be topped Because of how good it was and I love that movie. Yep me was, and I love that movie Yep, me too. And Matt's sitting there like Matt had to make. I'm gonna say this. We're two men that went to see a romantic comedy. Dean, I gotta say this. He said it in the theater. When did the movie come out?
Speaker 2Beginning of there.
Speaker 3February.
Speaker 2It was running in February, we saw it in January.
Speaker 3Okay, It'd just be a no this year's February movie is Love Hurts. I don't see how we're not going to see that.
Speaker 1It's on Netflix if you ever wanted to watch anyone but you.
Speaker 2But uh, I want to see Marshawn Lynch act. Yeah.
Speaker 1He better eat some Skittles. Oh, Sidney Sweeney has said she's never going to stop doing nude scenes and I'm like Don't think that's something else I'm clapping.
Speaker 3All they hear is that.
Speaker 2I mean you already done one. What is that point we don't have?
Speaker 3video. It's the one downfall of our podcast. Nobody can see the stupid shit that we're doing.
Speaker 2You don't want to see the stupid shit that we're doing. You don't want to see the stupid shit that we're doing.
Speaker 1Oh, and Sidney Sweeney is still rumored for Black Cat. Come on, and I'm praying to the gods, our facial expressions probably make most of what we're saying.
Speaker 3Please, jesus, don't let Sidney Sweeney, especially the stare at you.
Speaker 2They don't need to see the amount of dirty looks we have to give Dean.
Speaker 3They're not the dirty he wants to see.
Speaker 2No, I didn't say they were. He's the one messaging me that he has to decide between his favorite basketball team winning a championship or having a date with Sidney Sweeney. It was a meme I sent them. I said I can't pick.
Speaker 1And I said he's fucked.
Speaker 3It's no worse than yesterday when they got my order wrong. He said hey, do you want me to send you a picture of my dick so you can show him it? I was like no, and you better not have your dick out in the car so I lose too.
Speaker 1I'm going to have some. He's not ready. I'm going to have some orchestrated plan throughout my whole life that if I die, there's going to be some way I win. I think I should get JJ in on it.
Speaker 3I'm going to die before him. I think I should get JJ in on it. I'm gonna die before him. I'll be in my fucking coffin and the one thing that goes in my coffin is a picture of his dick. And I know it. He's gonna put a plant face on my head Like I win.
Speaker 2All I know is that JJ has to die before me so I can make him late to his funeral.
Speaker 3I'm gonna be at the River, fucking Sticks he's.
Speaker 1You'd have to volunteer to drive the hearse or be in charge of the casket To make him late.
Speaker 3Yes, by the way, I did like that reference in the movie the River Styx, where she got on the ferry.
Speaker 2It was a loose river. It was a very loose River, styx reference.
Speaker 1That's Greek shit, though, but the Romans stole all their shit. They renamed the gods after planets.
Speaker 3Where they were wasn't a part of Rome yet no, it was.
Speaker 2Africa.
Speaker 3Which was odd, because it was what did they fucking call that? Too. By the way, they did call it Africa, but they called it something like else, like.
Speaker 2The movie's already leaving my brain. Don't ask me to remember shit.
Speaker 1Yeah, Romans called fucking Poseidon Neptune. They called the Greek gods planets, which is funny.
Speaker 2And they discovered half the planet.
Speaker 3so yeah, do you remember what they called Hades?
Speaker 1Pliny Pluto or something. No, I'm thinking of something else.
Speaker 3Who the fuck was it? Who was Uranus?
Speaker 1Okay, no, okay, stop it. No, yeah, no, what god was Uranus?
Speaker 3Ay, ay ay, the Roman god Uranus. It's funny how they actually knew all the planets back then too.
Speaker 2I mean the creator of the calendar too.
Speaker 3The Roman calendar too, and the creator of the calendar too. Roman calendar, yeah, until Brazil, or no, no, no, the Mayans got involved.
Speaker 1Roman goddess, greek god of sky and heaven, kaelas, that's. Uranus.
Speaker 3Kaelas was Uranus. Yes, oh, that's fucked up, man. Rome no longer has their god of death.
Speaker 1Jupiter was their main god, so Jupiter is technically Zeus.
Speaker 3Pluto no longer exists.
Speaker 1Yeah, Pluto's gone. Pluto's not a planet anymore.
Speaker 2They didn't have the technology to decode it. They're not a planet.
Speaker 3Well, I know that I forget who the hell his name is. He said it's not that Pluto isn't a planet anymore. It's just got more in common with asteroids than it does planets.
Speaker 1Pluto the dog, oh God.
Speaker 3This is the way you called it out. Pluto here, boy, come back to us.
Speaker 2Still the most fucked up thing Mars was Aries no.
Speaker 3I'm not an idiot.
Speaker 1You want to name off Mercury, see I couldn't know I'd have to go and re-read my shit.
Speaker 3Venus Aphrodite there's no way you wouldn't have forgotten Venus. Only the planet gets, the one where wasn't Saturn.
Speaker 1If I was a Roman, I'd be praying Aphrodite every night man Every day.
Speaker 1Come on, summon me. You'd be praying to Adonis. I'd be pissed at him. That's not me. Fuck you, adonis. Hey man, if I had a time machine, shit would be shit, I think. As much as I'd have good intentions and just want to live my best life, I think I'd fuck up the whole world. If I had a time machine, I think I would Cave Dean oh shit, oh no, I go back to those times and lose all intelligence. I step out of time and go oh oh, oh, oh, you'd fuck everything up.
Speaker 3Oh oh, Kill Hitler before he becomes an artist who?
Speaker 2was Saturn.
Speaker 1Saturn Mm-hmm. Oh God, Hera yeah.
Speaker 3No, no God.
Speaker 1Hera, yeah, no, was it Apollo no. Mm-mm.
Speaker 3I can't remember. I remember the Greek gods more than I do the Roman Cronus.
Speaker 1Cronus. Yeah, cronus was a fucking titan. Okay, romans, go away, don't get me on this Mars was Aries.
Speaker 2Yeah, see I knew that. Mercury was Hermes.
Speaker 1Hermes, that fast motherfucker With his shoes.
Speaker 2Then you kind of got all the other ones.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's one of my main things. I get the books Mercury Venus.
Speaker 2Earth. There was none for Earth, it was Gaia, basically. Gaia Hera Gaia.
Speaker 3Hera Gaia. They all kind of stood for the same thing. After a while, Mars, which we already said.
Speaker 2We said Mars was Aries.
Speaker 3It goes Saturn, jupiter, uranus, neptune Pluto, uranus, neptune, pluto, and we already got them all. So we got the nine Yep, and then they just named them their own thing. Mm-hmm, Okay, so the planets got named, but everybody else was fuck you. You get your own name, you don't get a star in the sky.
Speaker 2Apparently. Romeo Dobbs got hurt. What Popped up on my feed?
Speaker 3Random news.
Speaker 2So are we going into our lists.
Speaker 1I mean we could, because there's going to be a lot of fucking, there's going to be a lot of like Well, I don't suppose we had anything else to say about history?
Speaker 3Great movie.
Speaker 1Go see it. There's going to be a lot of subplot.
Speaker 2I'm probably the lowest on the movie in general, what I usually am.
Speaker 1I really liked it. Not the first one, but still All right. I am going to Alright. I am going to. We should dedicate a little time To honorable mentions, though I left a lot off that I think Should probably be on mine?
Speaker 3I don't know. I wrote a list, but I don't know if it's a list.
Speaker 2You said you didn't care if I see it, oh fine, but I don't know if it's a list, okay, what you said, you didn't care if I see it, oh fine, sure.
Speaker 3I was going to try and number it, but that doesn't work. What I don't like the eyes you made as soon as you read the first one. You just don't want me to do the thing again.
Speaker 2No, we have one, one we have one One, wow, one One in common.
Speaker 1I don't know if I'm going to have as many. As Matt said, this is a lot of war movies.
Speaker 2I'm not surprised if you're one. No, I'm not surprised if you're one. It's not even on mine, so Would I be surprised if it was one? No, no.
Speaker 3It's been done before, and if I do it again, I'd get yelled at.
Speaker 2As long as you don't do it as loud, I don't care. Yell that Wait, huh, come on. Who wants to start?
Speaker 1Not me, I'll start, like I said, I'm doing a little bit of honorable mentions.
Speaker 2I saw we leave the honorable mentions to the end in case they get brought up, because if you're bringing up the honorable mentions before the list, then they're negating someone to the list.
Speaker 1Okay, okay, why would you point at me, you dick, I kind of cop. Of course here's my one cop-out, because but I can pick one, but I want to talk about both of them. 10 is a coin toss between Saving Private Ryan and 300. If I had to lean one, I'd probably lean for overall movie quality. I'd lean Private Ryan In terms of what I like, maybe 300, so it's kind of it's a coin toss. So I'm like I really don't know. Private Ryan is my second favorite war movie of all time World War II, like with guns and shit. Second favorite it might be controversial, but my first one's on here. It's higher up, and 300 is about my fucking Spartans. So of course I'm going to be like, yeah, fucking love it, I fucking love it. Thermopylae and Leonidas, that's some of my favorite fucking historical shit. So they make a movie about your Serbs. Those were two I expected on Matt's list, kind of somewhere 300 is not.
Speaker 2I downgraded that one for the major historical inaccuracy. Oh, I know, I downgraded that one because of that. This is Sparta, not even that. Hey, speaking of which King getting kicked into the pit? That was him getting kicked into the pit. That was him getting kicked into the pit. That was the king that died and got eaten by the moon. Was the guy that got kicked into the pit? That was him. Oh, same actor Clockwise Me. Clockwise is that way we're going. Counter I counter, uh, clockwise me clockwise.
Speaker 3Is that way we're going counter.
Speaker 1I counter. I believe in this movie.
Speaker 2It's called Perry.
Speaker 3I was sucked at. Perry so fuck you the imitation game nice Benedict Cumberbatch movie. I can never say his name right. I love the guy though Sherlock Holmes, the Imitation Game Nice Benedict Cumberbatch movie Cumberbatch I can never say his name right. I love the guy though Sherlock Holmes, not even because of. Well, he did wonderfully in that, yeah.
Speaker 2I didn't like the end. I'm not a psychopath, I'm a highly functioning sociopath.
Speaker 3I still love that Uh-huh. The movie was about coding, figuring out the codes of the Nazis. It was kind of cool the Nazis. It had nothing to do with him being gay and I loved it. It was a part of his character but it wasn't really mentioned until halfway through the movie. Yeah, I don't really have much to say about it. It's just a really good movie. Go see it.
Speaker 2Ten Cameo Fest of Black Hawk Down.
Speaker 1It was in my honorable mentions. It made the final 20.
Speaker 2That has so many actors in it, so many.
Speaker 1Made my final 20. Good movie, really good. That kind of makes me feel like my list is all over the place.
Speaker 2Your list is all over the place.
Speaker 1Well, historical movies is kind of vague. I kind of took it as they don't have to be true. It's like a historical piece. It's historical and shit, because I got one on mine that's not really you know, so kinda Okay, all mine kind of happened. That's what I mean. They don't have to have happened, but I'm gonna get to one that is pretty quick. Oh shit, not mine.
Speaker 2I'm gonna get to one that a lot of yours did in a certain way. Nine my nine Yep.
Speaker 1You're gonna hear his name a lot. We were soldiers. Mel Gibson, Vietnam. I know the movie.
Speaker 2You're going to hear his name a lot. We were soldiers. Mel Gibson, vietnam. I know the movie Jay's like here's. He knows already there's only one Mel Gibson movie in mind.
Speaker 1Fuck but. But Did you forget?
Speaker 3something. No, I just he said you're going to hear his name, a name, a lot. Now I don't want to say I'll go with the next king speech wow, my dad a good movie.
Speaker 1My dad liked that and I'm like, well, you're, this is not gonna surprise you, but I was kind of bored. My dad's like anything about the guy.
Speaker 3Until that movie he couldn't speak. It's a good movie about that. You may want to think of it, and I am definitely one of those people canonically in the podcast and D&D who cannot get a fucking word out edgewise half the time because I'm fucking stuttering.
Speaker 1So, yes, I appreciated the movie Okay, but one thing I want to say. I kind of let you go. We Were Sold. That's my favorite NOM movie. That's my favorite Vietnam movie. I don't have a NOM movie. It was either that or Platoon.
Speaker 2What he doesn't know, yet he's trying to get the win. No, I wasn't thinking about it when I said it. What I'm so lost.
Speaker 3Yes, you are Be lost, we'll find you along the way yeah.
Speaker 1I'm kind of not excited. I was excited for this list, so now I'm kind of you'll find out, it's alright you're good.
Speaker 2You're catching too many of our strays, when you shouldn't be banging at us at all you're in the middle of the battlefield, sir, get in the dug if you want to think of another movie, this is fine, because this is where me and you were overlapping on this one. What Was Nine was Kingdom of Heaven.
Speaker 3Son of a bitch. I'll tell you this. The only reason it made my list is because of him.
Speaker 1He says it's not on mine. What.
Speaker 2You're the one that doesn't like repeating. I knew it was on his Ah shit.
Speaker 3I didn't know where to put it on the list was my problem.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's why I'm saying if you want to pick another one now.
Speaker 3Because it is that good of a movie. Historical-wise too, it picks up on quite a lot of things. Ding, ding. It's not me this time, it's Bubbles. It's Bubbles, did he like?
Speaker 2have an itch in the ear or something. No, he's talking about his fantasy team, because he's actually winning.
Speaker 3Oh, when it doesn't matter. Uh, I would know nothing about this movie if it weren't for him. I actually went out to buy the movie because of him.
Speaker 2I have it on Blu-ray. I got. I have it on Blu-ray. I got. All I have the extended edition on Blu-ray.
Speaker 1Do I have my whole top 10 on Blu-ray? Yes, I do. Do I have my honorable mentions? Yes, I do. I got every single one on Blu-ray. I used to. I don't know if I believe you. I've seen your Blu-rays. You have like 20.
Speaker 3Yeah, I used to Somebody stole and sold. Stole and sold.
Speaker 2Mine are safe in the basement, what, oh no.
Speaker 3Oh, I'm going to get him so bad. Are we adding him to this podcast right now, or what's going on, my God? Or are you just making fun of him? Making fun of him badly? Okay, clue us in.
Movies and Casting Preferences
Speaker 2Now my team wants to play. Well, when I got no shot at going to the playoffs Bullshit and I said yeah, your team's just like you. Late. Okay, as long as my name does not be brought up in it. If I don't get a fuck you in response. I didn't do my job correctly.
Speaker 3I'm pretty sure you're going to get an almost immediate fuck. If it's not immediate, it's because he had to think about it.
Speaker 2Good God, the only issue I have with Kingdom of Heaven is probably no offense to Orlando Bloom. Probably would have casted somebody over Orlando Bloom to play the role.
Speaker 1Really Well. It's been spoiled, it's on mine, so I'm not going to put my two cents in too much. I'll save mine for I was like. I was like fuck.
Speaker 3Who the hell would you have cast?
Speaker 2In that time period. Oh, he actually didn't give me a fuck you.
Speaker 3What the fuck did he say? Yeah?
Speaker 2He accepted it. When did the kingdom of heaven come out? You can go. I'll chime in if I need to.
Speaker 3That was his nine, so you're at Eight.
Speaker 1This is one I don't know if I need. That was his 9, so you're at 8 somebody. This is one I don't know if you guys have sat through or even or watched, but it's it's a me and my dad movie. But my next one, what are we on? 10, 8, 8 Dance of the Wolves with Kevin Costner. I've sat through that movie. That's my, you know.
Speaker 3You know how many times we've referenced that movie.
Speaker 1Thanks to Star Wars, that's what Boba Fett was doing in his movie that was Dancing with Wolves, just with fucking the sand people.
Speaker 2Like a bantha.
Speaker 1No, that is a movie, yeah, I have. Dancing with Wolves has something going for it that I usually do not fuck with at all, but it's the one movie I let it pass. I love that movie so much I feel horrible. I let it pass.
Speaker 3I love that movie so much I feel horrible. I don't have anything like that.
Speaker 1Dancing with Wolves is very it's very politically charged. Yeah, because it makes the white man look like absolute garbage and they're horrible and all that shit which a lot of some of them were granted. But I just love the study of Native American culture. It's based on a book and how Kevin Costner kind of just becomes one of the tribe and shit. I love that movie. Like the movie makes the, they kill two socks. That's his wolf. His name in the, his native name, they call him Chimani Tutanka Obwachi. That is Dancing with.
Speaker 3Wolves, I'm surprised you fucking memorized that.
Speaker 1Because I love the last scene when his Indian who didn't like him the whole fucking movie is shouting on the rocks like you will always be my friend. God damn, I'm getting all emotional because I fucking love that movie. My dad loves that movie.
Speaker 3Not as emotional as you did for Gladiator. You forgot your coat.
Speaker 1Damn it. But no, you get what I'm saying. By one movie I let pass, I mean politically charged. By it does paint the settlers, white people, as trash and horrible, which a chunk of them were granted, but it paints the native Indian people and I've had this talk with many native people who he's talking to, has had this conversation with many times.
Speaker 1The Lakota Sioux were a fucking war tribe. They depicted them as just the perfect people, Naturist. But they were the Lakota Sioux. We're a war tribe that took scalps and killed you by cutting open your gut and letting dogs eat your shit out of you and shit. They were not. All of them were not amazing people, so they weren't historically accurate with that. But that's what I mean by politically charged. Make the white man bad, White man bad, White man bad, white man bad. But I still love that movie. I'm just saying it's one movie that gets the pass for being such a beautiful movie from political shit, and I love Kevin Costner. He did great in that movie. You could almost make this. The movie starts in Civil War times and then it's a long movie too and it's not like action-packed, but it's a character study. I love it.
Speaker 3A good historical-based movie has to be longer to get the story across.
Speaker 1So you guys have seen okay, matt has seen Dance of the Wolves. So you're like, of course, I've seen Dance of the Wolves.
Speaker 2You want, the one that would have been the easiest to cast or the one I would have cast? The one you would have cast. The one I would have cast would have been Karl Urban, okay, instead of Orlando Bloom Around the same time, that would have been Lord of the Rings. Doom came out around that time and Karl Urban was in Doom. Yeah, okay. The easy casting would have been Viggo over Orlando, viggo Mortensen over Orlando. That would have been the easy casting, and then you would have had the sword play.
Speaker 3I can't argue with you. I really can't.
Speaker 2But Orlando was coming off. Pirates of the Caribbean fame. So yeah. Pretty yeah, that's what they wanted when they needed more gruff.
Speaker 3Especially for a Templar yeah.
Speaker 2He had Orlando Bloom standing next to Liam Neeson.
Cinematic Ramblings and Mel Gibson Discussions
Speaker 3You know what pissed me off about watching that movie? I'm watching Liam Neeson in this fucking armor right and all I can think of is Raichoku yes.
Speaker 2You're not wrong. You're on year eight, by the way.
Speaker 3Apollo 13.
Speaker 2There you go. That's a good one. It's a good one. Speaking of cameo fest, that movie's heavy duty cameo.
Speaker 3Would you want me to say the other one that doesn't even fucking exist? Armageddon.
Speaker 2Yeah, that one's not historical as much as we'd like it to be.
Speaker 3It could be historical, and we don't even know it. All we got to do is drill.
Speaker 1Because we're going through this, because what time? Oh, we're fine, we don't even got to really pay attention to that.
Speaker 2Oh, we're not through this, because what time? Oh, we're fine, we don't even got to really pay attention to the time right now. No, we're not fine, I'm the one that has to work tomorrow morning. Oh, but we're doing good on time in terms of how much time we have. Yeah.
Speaker 1Because I'm, just because we're going to. At the end it's going to be Ramble Festival movies we didn't talk about for a bit, and then it's done. We can talk about Red One.
Speaker 3Tis the season.
Speaker 2Fuck you, Mariah. That's my biggest complaint about the movies that came out in November.
Speaker 3Well, it probably would have lost to Craven and it probably would have lost to Sonic.
Speaker 2I didn't say around Christmas. You could have put it two weeks from now.
Speaker 3Two weeks from now is Craven.
Speaker 2Oh boy, craven's coming, it's coming. No, it's more than that it's around that time it might come out. Eight, sir, speaking of Denzel, oh boy, remember the Titans.
Speaker 3Oh shit, I didn't think at all for this list.
Speaker 2Technically, yes I went through multiple things. It's the only sports movie that made my list. There is a sports in my honorable mentions.
Speaker 3I have no sports.
Speaker 2I technically have a sports one, early Ryan Gosling. You want to know a sports movie?
Speaker 3I have one sports one on here you want to know out of movie. I have one sports one on here you want to know out of sports.
Speaker 1I've seen a lot of sports. You might find this funny. What sports movie will get me in the fields every time? Miracle.
Speaker 2The US hockey team. That one's a very good one too. I think I put that over my other honorable mention. I put Miracle over we Are Marshall as one of my honorable mentions. I'd put Miracle over we Are Marshall.
Speaker 1Miracle. That's one of them. That's one of them, miracle's one of them. Upper echelon movies of where you feel America is Miracle.
Speaker 2And great soundtrack.
Speaker 3Dream on, dream on. I don't know if I should cross that out or not we have my next one.
Speaker 2I told you if you want to go on another one. You're the one that cares more about duplicates than me and him do. Maybe we talked about it enough and we're going to talk about it again.
Speaker 1Oh, seven here comes Mel Gibson again. Braveheart I'll be, I'll be bringing it up later.
Speaker 2I'm glad it wasn't on there. Now here comes Mel Gibson again Braveheart, fuck. I'll be bringing it up later. I'm glad it wasn't on there now. Here comes Mel Gibson I was surprised that one wasn't on yours, and that's more for my people than it is yours.
Speaker 1What? Oh Scott? Yeah, that was where he was going, not on the level of Serbs, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3Just because you identify more as the Scotsman from that's me. I got the red though you're the one who had 120 fucking daughters.
Speaker 1Braveheart's just one of them. Movies too much info. That's one of the movies I wash my shirt off like ooh man, shit, that's me. This is filled with me and my dad movies. That's literally what my list is.
Speaker 2Better strategy implemented in there than this movie.
Speaker 1I am William Wallace. I'm not doing the speech.
Speaker 2You had a little Roman in your army that knew basically new things about their army. It's like nope, still gonna shoot arrows at shields.
Speaker 3That is so sad actually, Even on the wall he didn't prepare them for anything.
Speaker 1Here's the thing about Braveheart Mel Gibson. As great as Mel Gibson is, he directed that too. That movie is very accurate too. That's not perfect, but it has a very accurate telling of the Scots' fight for freedom against longshanks Very accurate.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 2The ending was the most inaccurate, wasn't it? The ending was the biggest inaccuracy, really more so than the action.
Speaker 3Were they pulling out his intestines?
Speaker 2Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1They cut William Wallace up and posted him all over. Yeah, they did that. I mean more so the the kind of they.
Speaker 2They cut william wallace up and posted them all over.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, they did that. I mean more so the pregnancy with, with uh yeah, I think sophie marceau's character and shit. Yeah, that might have been a little.
Speaker 3That might have been a little bit oh, are we supposed to be getting a fuck? No, there was a sequel or something.
Speaker 1Yeah robert de bruce. It was like almost a tv movie, damn near no one cared straight to netflix. Yeah, no one cared fuck I I didn't watch it.
Speaker 2ro the Bruce. God, there's so many good kids. That was the greatest thing that they didn't tell was they made the ending battle where they're all charging the English. At the end they lost that battle. Yeah, that was the big oh.
Speaker 1They fought like Scotsmen, they fought like warrior poets and they won the God get now. Fuck. I'm gonna watch it now.
Speaker 2Speaking of court of all movies.
Speaker 1Hi, I'm going to watch it now. Speaking of quotable movies, I am William Wallace Dying in your beds many years from now. Every movie I have on my list is quotable.
Speaker 3I'm doing the whole speech and I'm pretty sure every movie on his list is quotable.
Speaker 2I don't know if there was a major quote from Black Hawk Down.
Speaker 3I'm William Wallace, here I go. None that I can remember.
Speaker 2The couple from Kingdom of Heaven.
Speaker 3Round seven right.
Speaker 1William Wallace. Yes, he's seven feet tall and can shoot fireballs from his ass.
Speaker 3Should I continue your trend? The Patriot?
Speaker 2It's on mine it's in my honorable mentions, it's not on mine, it's very high on mine, so it won't come back for a while how do you think I feel with one of the movies you've already said?
Speaker 3America's Civil War is a very great time to tell stories you want to try that one again? Civil Revolution the fuck my head turns stories.
Speaker 1You want to try that one again? Civil Revolution, the fuck. My head turned madly.
Speaker 3We both did. I love how, when I get wires crossed on my head. No, I wasn't wrong when I said, though the Civil and Revolution.
Speaker 2They prefer not touching the Civil War because of you, american against American. They don't like telling that story. It's stupid.
Speaker 1I'll get off, like I said, if there's a duplicate. I kind of save my comments when I actually say it. But yes, it's a good one that way.
Speaker 3the duplicate don't matter. It's kind of weird, because you chose the more accurate one, I chose the less accurate one.
Speaker 1What For Mel? For what Movies? Movies no Patriots.
Speaker 2I don't mind, though. No, he's talking about inaccuracy.
Speaker 1Patriot was more on the inaccurate. Braveheart was way more accurate than Patriot was. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Patriot used actual.
Speaker 2Shut up. I'll get to it when I talk about it, my seven's most recent movie, probably on most of our lists. Okay. Midway.
Speaker 1Okay, okay, great sea battle.
Speaker 2Great sea battle. I watch that. I can watch that movie all the time my grandpa was not at Midway.
Speaker 1He was in Okinawa Imojima. He was not at Midway. He didn't get there. Yet he's up there like yeah, you talk about me, yeah.
Speaker 3Immortalized.
Speaker 2My grandpa was in California during Pearl Harbor and he went to. Japan after.
Speaker 3All I know is my grandpa was a Marine gunman. I didn't ask where he was stationed very much. How was it?
Speaker 1I thought he didn't. Even I didn't see combat though he told me he didn't see combat.
Speaker 3I thought as far as I know, I don't ask questions, man.
Speaker 2My grandpa knew the guy that saw the. Oh, you've told me he don't talk about it.
Speaker 1My grandpa knew the guy that saw the oh. You've told me he only talked about those. My grandpa talked about this shit with me all the time, so I know so much.
Speaker 3He would probably tell me if I asked.
Speaker 2My grandpa knew the guy that saw the enemy planes coming on the radar and he got told off by the supervisor that they were expecting people in. Oh, that was the thing. That's why they didn't have. When Japan was attacking, they were told that they were expecting the fleet of a squadron in, and that's why the alarms weren't raised. So another 9-11. Kinda, except that 9-11 was technically more secretive.
Historical Films and Football Banter
Speaker 1Ah shit. Next Now is Kingdom of Heaven for me. There you go. The 2 is coming up Again. That was another movie that was. There's good action. It's a long movie, there's a very historical and the Crusades is one of my favorite time periods. I love the Crusades, even the fourth one where they start being fucking clowns and killing fellow Christians.
Speaker 2I like watching Kingdom of Heaven and then Robin Hood, russell Crowe, because technically it's after the Crusades, because the Kingdom of Heaven ends with Richard Lyonard.
Speaker 1You know what? My favorite, though my favorite portrayal in Kingdom of Heaven, though, was Edward Norton as Baldwin. That was phenomenal. Yeah, the Leper King. I've read and watched so much on Baldwin. He was, was young, really young, and he had leprosy, but he let every fight, he let every fucking engagement, and the best thing that they nailed was the respect him and solid had. As much as they were warring, they had a deep respect for each other. It was historical fact that Saladin sent his own physicians to tend the Baldwin shit all the time, and I love that they actually did that, and there's a powerful scene at the end when they finally surrender Jerusalem to him and Saladin picks up the cross. I'm like that's how shit. That's how shit was.
Speaker 3I loved it, great movie something you rarely see these days Christianity and Islam as much as they've been fighting and killing each other.
Speaker 1Movie Respect and honor, something you rarely see these days. Christianity and Islam as much as they've been fighting and killing each other for years and years are very intertwined. So it's like Jesus is in the fucking Quran. So it's like shit, okay. Religion is another topic. I can go on about 50 years on. Okay, my normal partner for that is not here either. If you had him here, you'd have us blabbing.
Speaker 3Don't bring up the movie Heretic. Oh God, it went a completely different direction than what I thought.
Speaker 2I knew what the movie was going to be about.
Speaker 3Six for you, sir, I'll have the cheese one Pearl Harbor. Good movie plus good film the only thing I don't like about it is it's the day before my birthday and that has nothing to do with the movie Paul. I just remember still watching it on VHS where I had what was it? Three or four of them. Yeah, it was like two tapes.
Speaker 2Hey, Nate's birthday is 9-11, so, oh Jesus.
Speaker 3Christ, yeah, that one's worse. Uh-huh. I think that one's worse.
Speaker 2Uh-huh, oh boy.
Speaker 3I was born the day after, so I can't say shit. Yeah, it's my birthday and now we have the towers falling. What the fuck?
Speaker 1Oh God, you talk about a bad birthday, oh boy.
Speaker 2He got a good 15 years out of it.
Speaker 3Happy birthday Muslims. I'm in America. Oh my. God Not.
Speaker 1Muslims. Would you call them neo-Muslims? Terrorists, the Taliban, Not all Muslims. We can't be doing that lumping shit. That's one of the worst things in society nowadays lumping all groups together and shit Wait we're white, damn it.
Speaker 2He's in that movie too. Why is he in so many movies? What? The fucking fucking king, the guy eaten by the baboon? He's in my next movie too. Jesus Christ, wait, was he in Pearl Harbor? No, not in my next movie, oh.
Speaker 3So you just made the association right away.
Speaker 2He could have been in Pearl Harbor. For all I know, he was an extra.
Speaker 3He was one of the Japanese pilots, because they didn't feel like using actual Japanese.
Speaker 2No, my number six is Hidalgo. Ooh. Speaking of Ego Mortensen oh boy, man loves his horse, but no, the guy is the fucking bodyguard for the Queen and King of the Arabs. It's like what the he's there.
Speaker 3Wow.
Speaker 2He gets shot in the back.
Speaker 1Shot in the back.
Speaker 3Why did I want to put some animated movie on here that would have nothing to do with it?
Speaker 2I mean as long as they're historical Spirit, the one about the horse, eh no, that horse doesn't talk, so Anastasia. Anastasia would have been closer.
Speaker 1Okay, what Five? No, Saquon's got 33 points.
Speaker 3I thought I threw him off with Anastasia because of the Rasputin. He had a big-ass touchdown.
Speaker 2Big-ass touchdown Figuratively, yeah, literally.
Speaker 3He jumped backwards for that one Break.
Speaker 1Break everyone One second. I just want to see how long it was. The touchdown Not touchdown that could have been taken out of context. That could have been. Oh my, how bad that could have been taken out of context. That could have been. Oh my, how bad that could have been taken out of context. Oh shit. Oh, I forgot to look at that. Oh, it's 20-7 Eagles 70-yard touched okay.
Speaker 2Doing what he does best. Holy shit, I'm gonna win. Thanks, Nate. Nate the hockey, fancy hockey.
Speaker 3Oh, this is why we normally do our podcasts and movies on Saturdays. Yeah, nate, nate the hockey, fancy hockey. This is why we normally do our podcasts and movies on Saturdays.
Speaker 1Yeah, because there's random football shit. Okay, we got five for me. Yes, five is Gladiator the original. We've blabbed about it. It's quotable, it's coming up for me. Got good history Not accurate, but good history in it. Russell Crowe great. I don't know if he won best actor for it. He might have been nominated. I know it was nominated for a lot of shit. I don't know if he actually won. I don't think he did Just look up Russell Crowe on Wikipedia.
Speaker 3I don't remember. It's kind of odd that we put it in the same spot.
Speaker 2Where's Russell Crowe from Dean?
Speaker 1English Nope, no, he's not American. New Zealand, yeah, new Zealand, something like that. I was going to say something like that. New Zealand, russell Crowe.
Speaker 3Awards. Do you know how to do a haka?
Speaker 2Best act. He nominated for the Insider and A Beautiful Mind. He won it for Gladiator. Oh, he did win, yep.
Speaker 3Shout out to New Zealand actors. There's more of them New.
Speaker 1Zealand. We were on Gladiator so much I don't really want to blab about it too much, to be honest. But Jay, you was Gladiator too there. Yeah, I put it at 5 for some reason. I don't really want to blab about it too much, to be honest, but Jay you was your Gladiator 2 there. Yeah, I put it at 5 for some reason, I don't know how it got the same, but I figured that one would be on everyone's.
Speaker 2Gladiator's on 4 for me. Okay, so you're next. No, we're on 5.
Speaker 3We're on 5 and me and you tied at 5.
Speaker 2My 5 is Braveheart William Wallace.
Speaker 3Nothing wrong with William Wallace If we talked more about that movie it's just going to be nothing but accents the whole fucking time too. I can't do it, no, you just did it. Leave me alone? No, because it will go there.
Speaker 1I'm William Wallace. God damn it. It was said again. You want to know what a good movie, a quotable movie is. When you say the title, you just naturally your instinct is to say I am William Wallace.
Speaker 2I'm going to do that with a punch.
Speaker 1All right, are we just going to me? Yeah, okay, my four. Yeah. Here is the surprise this is over Private Ryan and this is my favorite war movie. I'm curious.
Speaker 2Hacksaw Ridge that's in my honorable mentions Hacks.
Speaker 1It's not because Andrew Garfield's in it Even though, andrew, he is great. In that fucking movie this one you don't get to see his butt, oh my God. It's more so of the. If you watch that movie, it's so fucking powerful. What that movie is, it's a true story.
Speaker 1It's about Desmond Dawes, who fought in World War II. He was a medic but he was an objector. He didn't want to kill nobody. He refused to kill nobody and it was a big fucking thing. Dude, you're not going to carry a gun. No, everyone's going to be taking life. I'm going to be saving it. That's his whole. He was religious. He refused to take life. Thank god, help me get one more yep. And he saved, and it's. He got the. I believe he got the medal of honor, believe he did yep. He saved so many people during the scenes in there. He saved so many people during that final. It's good, because the whole movie he's getting just bullied and beat on because he can't, he can't. They're like why are you here? You're not going to do anything, so it's. You're not contributing at all. What are you talking about? I'm saving lives.
Speaker 1It's a powerful but one of the most powerful scenes in there. His dad who played his dad was. Was it hugo who hugo weaving? Hugo weaving was his dad. He was in world war one and the most powerful scene is when he goes in the courtroom and he's gives a, has a message, a letter from the general, to that he's all. He's constitutionally allowed to be an objector, he don't have to carry a gun. And they said that's a Great War uniform. But he wore his uniform and they said, well, that doesn't. There's a powerful line. Or he said, sir, you're not active, so he has the uniform on, so it don't mean nothing anymore. I put it on and it's done. And it's a powerful scene. I'm not giving it justice, but it's a powerful. Matt knows what I'm talking about. It's a very good line, so that's it. The uniform don't mean anything anymore. Very good movie. That's one of them. Emotional heart movies for me. I love that movie. Oh Cherry on Top, vince Vaughn's in it.
Speaker 3I actually forgot about that.
Speaker 1But that's my favorite war. It's still not topped. It's still my favorite war movie. There's others saving they're in modern mentions. There are a lot of modern ones though, but yes, I wanted to get to that one. I was curious if Matt would be like oh, hacksaw Ridge, okay.
Speaker 3I don't know if my four even counts, but it will get him giddy Giddy Because four even counts. But it will get him giddy Giddy Because he had to drag me to the theater for it and we both loved it.
Speaker 1The Northmen. Yeah, To my honorable mention. As much as I love that movie, I was like I can't put it on there yet.
Speaker 3I almost put it at ten. It was one of the finals for ten. I love Viking related, you know anything.
Speaker 1I do too. You're like I know.
Speaker 3Anything to do with Ireland, Scotland, Britannia and I say Britannia, not Great Britain or anything like that and Vikings.
Speaker 1You, you. But you made the joke that movies about me You're like joke stands.
Speaker 3Well over there, I couldn't even do it. Your dick is just flying through the fucking. The movie's about me. You're like joke stands. Well over there, I couldn't even do it. Your dick is just flying through the fucking air while you're fighting. That's such a fucking bad scene. It's like he directed it.
Speaker 1I like that movie so much that I get I don't know why I get called a Viking so much, not to mention the religion probably the beard in in the movie for the Vikings, the shamanism that they used.
Speaker 3I need Taylor Joyce in it. That didn't help him. That did not help him at all. Curiosa.
Speaker 1A lot of good action. Motherfucker has his final fight in a fucking volcano, half naked, and he has a vision of his wife. Bro took my death, it's my death.
Speaker 3Like I said, I could have swore you were the one who directed this movie.
Speaker 1I don't know I'm like bro. No, I love that movie. It's due for a rewatch.
Speaker 3Willem Dafoe's fucking part in that, though, too, was just. I didn't know how to take it, because it was both weird, but Anyone out there if you like the anime Vinland Saga, watch the Northman.
Speaker 1Vinland Saga, watch the Northmen. What the hell are you? I had to compare them. I love doing that. I love Vinland Saga, so I had to compare it to the Northmen.
Speaker 3I mean you're both right, but then you're also sending them into a movie that is dark as hell sometimes. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1What the fuck's going on?
Speaker 2So is Vinland Saga.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean. Well, it's literal dark, Like you're sitting there watching a movie you have to go like. Oh like. Dc movies where they don't turn the lights on. Remember how we were watching that movie, what the fuck's going on? And then all of a sudden they come in with a flame and it's like, oh okay now we get it Still.
Speaker 2one of my favorite lines from Deadpool 2. So dark. Sure you're not part of the DC universe, a part of the DC?
Speaker 3universe. That was my four.
Speaker 2We already know my four oh yeah.
Speaker 1Three.
Speaker 3We got his four.
Speaker 1My number. Now we're getting to my Kind of my trinity now, oh God, number three, okay, I think you guys can guess my one and two.
Speaker 2I don't think you get my three.
Speaker 1My number three is a Lester, a actual Lester, and if we did a top ten favorite movie characters, which should be a list, at some point a character from this movie would be in it Tombstone.
Speaker 2Tombstone is my number two. You could say the same thing, damn it.
Speaker 3You could say the same thing for mine.
Speaker 1Me and JJ fight over who Doc Holiday is. You're going to same thing for mine. Me and JJ fight over who.
Speaker 3Doc Holliday, is You're going to continue fighting with him?
Speaker 1Val Kilmer should have won a, and it's Doc Holliday in my top five for characters. Val Kilmer should have won a fucking Oscar for that shit. I can't even remember who won awards for mine.
Speaker 3You could probably tell me when I say it.
Historical Film Musings and Mel Gibson
Speaker 1That is one Wait. I'm curious, matt. When I said Western, you were like he's going to say Tombstone.
Speaker 2I know exactly which movie it is.
Speaker 3You know how many times you brought up Tombstone.
Speaker 1No, you want to talk about quotable movies and you want to play with death. I'll be a Huckleberry. This is my game quotable movies, and you, you want to play with death. I'll be a huckleberry I was gonna be.
Speaker 2My quote is like this is my there this is my game.
Speaker 1Why it hurts my friend. Oh fuck, quotable movies. Sam great cast sam elliott's in there too. Um, kurt russell is wyatt. Um, fucking val kilmer's doc bill paxton yep, billxton, val Kilmer had the fucking Doc Holliday swag. That's always fucking great. I bought JJ a pop of Doc Holliday. I'm jealous. Now I want one. But I love Tombstone. It's pretty accurate. It's got good action in it. They made a West. It's. Oh, tombstone, that's my most. We need more movies like it. That's my most watched Western.
Speaker 3We literally are too focused on action and explosions and sex versus story, I'll be a huckleberry.
Speaker 1God damn it. And speaking of story, matt knew it. Matt knew it. He's like here comes Tombstone.
Speaker 2Once he said Western he's like well there goes mine it's going right before mine, my.
Speaker 3My number three is far removed from a western, but kind of my. Thing but gangs of new york, there you go it's a good one.
Speaker 1That that's what I probably forgot to give more love to when I was debating my list, but I really do like that one I like that higher on my list, thanks to uh, I believe Grandma Pam and. Miller, Great cast. Daniel Day-Lewis it was on a lot Leah, one of my top two favorite actors DiCaprio.
Speaker 3I just liked how it portrayed America at that time.
Speaker 1Nobody liked each other. It portrayed racism. Here come them, fucking Irish. No, you didn't like each other. Nobody liked each other, didn'ted racists? Oh, here come them, fucking Irish. No, you didn't like each other, nobody liked each other.
Speaker 3Didn't matter where the fuck you came from. Well, the true.
Speaker 1The Daniel Day-Lewis the butcher. He was the traditional American. I don't want these immigrants in my fucking land. He was their traditional Boys that's.
Speaker 3I'm surprised that movie wasn't more referenced nowadays.
Speaker 1But no, that's a great movie, that's a.
Speaker 3Scorsese movie. Oh shit, I know your new nickname for Trump now.
Speaker 1Butcher oh my God, he loves immigrants, not illegal ones. I'm not getting on that shit. What's Gangs in New York? I should have expected that to come up. It is a political movie In a way.
Speaker 3It even has corrupt cops in it. Seriously, you remember who plays the corrupt cop?
Speaker 1right yeah, john C Reilly, yup that guy's amazing, he can play many roles, and that one motherfucker's in there too. He's always playing an Irish role, brandon Gleeson. I think it's Gleeson. He's always in fucking Irish roles, always. Oh, that's true. You need an Irishman, you cast him.
Speaker 2He comes out with that big fucking hammer and shit it's between him and basically, who was the vampire in?
Speaker 3Did we say Van Helsing?
Speaker 2No, kate Beckinsdale's Hugh.
Speaker 1Jackman no vampire. Hugh Jackman was Van Helsing.
Speaker 3He's thinking what movie where she's the vampire? Oh, vampire, hugh Jackman as Van Halsey. He's thinking what?
Speaker 2movie where she's the vampire. Oh shit, Her franchise Underworld.
Speaker 3Yeah, there we go. That should have been Dean's first fucking thing.
Speaker 2The red-haired guy that's the villain in 2 is also very cast. He's usually cast as an Irishman in a lot of shit, the one that's the I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 3I can't name him.
Speaker 2Yeah, but he plays an Irishman in a lot of shit. My number three is Fury. That's Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt in the tank. In the tank, that's the tank. Tank life, god damn it. Tank life. Very underrated story Tank life, god damn it. Tank life Very underrated story.
Speaker 3What the hell is going to be an honorable mention for me.
Speaker 2What was that movie where they're trying to train psychics? The Men who Stare at Goats. The Men who Stare at Goats.
Speaker 3Thank you, george Clooney. Yeah, what the fuck. Why is that movie just there whenever something like that is brought up? Brad Pitt, all of a sudden.
Speaker 2George Clooney, minsteric Oats yeah, too bad that movie their most recent movie didn't come out to theater. I still wanted to see it. It did. It went straight to fucking. Not Amazon's. Prime no, it went straight. Not Peacock, it's the other one, apple. It went straight to Apple. Oh fuck.
Speaker 3Apple.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was created by the guy that did the Spider-Man movies.
Speaker 3Damn it. It should have went to Paramount, then that'd be good Spider-Man Could have gone to any one Mark.
Speaker 2Webb. Yeah Huh, how about Spider-Man movies? The most recent ones? Oh uh, john Watts, yeah, he directed it and he backed out of doing the sequel because of what Apple did.
Speaker 1Oh, your number two was Tombstone. Yeah, my name, so we're just skipping.
Speaker 2We didn't even say ours yet. Yeah, you're on your number two. I just did my three.
Speaker 1Oh well, it was said already, but number two is Patriot for me. There you go, Number two is Patriot. I wasn't expecting that Patriot's very high up Mel Gibson is the god of like historical movies. Mel Gibson, mel Gibson, mel Gibson, mel Gibson.
Speaker 3Speaking of historical movies, Mel Gibson If this is not on your list somewhere where he's bearing a cross, Passion of the Cross he directed that. He wasn't in it. He wasn't in it, but it's still one of his movies.
Speaker 1Jim Caviezel played Jesus. No, I can't. As much as this sounds bad, I don't mean it bad. I heard a Carlos Mencia joke that kind of ruined that movie for me. What he said? He was watching it in the theaters and he was laughing, but watching Passion of Christ laughing, he said. I was watching Passion of Christ in theaters and I was laughing. Old Latino lady next to me touched me on the shoulder Sir, are you not sad? That's our Lord and Savior dying. Carlos Mencia was like, why he comes back.
Speaker 3That's actually horrible, considering that they're actually trying to make a sequel to that movie. He comes back.
Speaker 1I'm like, oh god, it's so bad, I shouldn't laugh. But it's true, he does come back.
Speaker 3That's what ruined the movie for you A little bit, because I'm like.
Speaker 1I'm trying to make me emotional. He comes back and then I think about Family Guy. Passionate of Christ 2, crucify this, where Jesus is teaming up with Chris Tucker and you shoot the motherfucker.
Speaker 3That one I would have believed more as ruining the movie than Carlos Mencia.
Speaker 1Oh God, no American Revolution, not Civil. Ruining the movie than carlos mencia. Oh god, no american revolution, not civil war.
Speaker 2Jay, I'm sorry, you and you're gonna hear that you're gonna hear that from me and matt for a bit, I think probably who cares not, as it's still not as bad as you, not knowing what fluffer meant mine at least, is just a brain crossed wire.
Speaker 1No, mel Gibson's great in history movies. It was not really accurate to the revolution, but they did historical battles. You've seen Yorktown. At the end Cowpens was the last big battle, but that's historical. But one thing Jason Isaacs is great at playing villains. You're not wrong. That's who played the horse Bannister Tarleton, the horse guy. Who was? Based on a real person. Cornwallis was in there. It was great. Good act, very good action. Can't forget fucking oh God, why Heath Ledger?
Speaker 3Segway. Segway, no, no Okay.
Speaker 2Not to my one. Segway, segway, seg. No, okay, not to my one, like Like Ledge Heath.
Speaker 3Led my two. Anything else to say?
Speaker 1To this here. No, no, no, no, no. I just Good movie, great movie. It's got the America, the America's in there, oh, and the French, the French, no I. One thing I gotta say my favorite scene when they steal this carriage and carriage and Cornwallis' dogs, we're just gonna eat them. The French guy looks at them. Huh, we'll eat them. They didn't eat them. I wanna see Mel in more movies. Goddammit, let him come back. Goddammit, I know he's coming, hasn't he since?
Speaker 3I thought he said no, he's been back. He's been doing stuff again. What the hell was that movie? Daddy's Home, oh yeah, since that movie, hasn't he been making more movie appearances?
Speaker 1No, he's been directing more. He makes a drunk anti-Semitic remark and it's all fucking over.
Speaker 2He's in whatever Monster Summer or whatever. Yeah, you were bitching about being what the fuck? This doesn't feel like a Mel Gibson movie.
Speaker 3It doesn't, it's just in there for fun. Hey, it's Mel Gibson.
Speaker 2I would have believed John Cena more as that character than I would have believed Mel Gibson as that character. John Cena wasn't available, apparently not?
Speaker 1Well, you couldn't see him the whole movie anyway. So why the fuck? Give me a slap, shame me.
Speaker 2Nope, that's not my job. No, I don't have a bonk stick.
Speaker 1It's low-hanging fruit. I'm always going to say it.
Speaker 3when John Cena's they're over there A little longer.
Speaker 1Okay, jay, okay, jay's two. What do we got A Knight's Tale there you go. Hey, that's funny. You see Paul Bendy's ass in that motherfucker. Why do I remember that?
Speaker 2Well, you know why you remember that.
Speaker 1I'm just saying he's walking down the road he's like.
Speaker 3Hey, I was trying to segue into it when you said heath ledger, that's true low key, yes, but funny thing, people ask me when I'm talking to people.
Speaker 1That's how it shows my age a little bit, but I'm not talking to me like man. I love paul bentney. I seen him as vision man. He was in a knight's tale before most shit. So shut up, yeah we're watching the movie.
Speaker 2You've got joker, he's uh, robert baratheon and vision adam tunic dude, they had a whole fucking cast.
Speaker 3You mean Clayface. Yes, I love that guy. He's in so many good roles I don't even know if they're going to continue. One of my newer favorite shows of his Resident, alien, which is based off a comic that I cannot find.
Speaker 1I'm curious, I'm curious of Matt's one.
Speaker 2I already teased it, you're on your one.
Speaker 1He said his two because of you, it was Tombstone. Yeah, my two was Tombstone. I'm curious. I'm curious if Matt can get it. I'm curious if he can get it. What? I give you the lead actor, you'll get it. Tom Cruise, that's your number one, we can get it. What? Yeah, I give you the lead actor, you'll get it, tom.
Speaker 2Cruise. That's your number one.
Speaker 3Yep, it's not Christian. Impossible.
Speaker 2Wow. Well, what is my number one? Last Samurai.
Speaker 1Yeah, no what.
Speaker 3I won't shake it. I can't shake your hand on the Last Samurai. Fine. Why? Why do you?
Speaker 2I'm more I can't shake your hand on the Last Samurai? Fine, why? It's a freaking amazing movie. I'm not saying it's not an amazing movie, I'm just surprised it's number one.
Speaker 3Actually I am a little surprised it's number one for him.
Speaker 1It is. It's just you know how much I love Japanese culture.
Speaker 2First off, so are you going to play the new Assassin's Creed or not?
Speaker 3What the fuck was the last assassins creed movie he played when you were a pirate movie? Oh god, it's game cross wires and brain. Leave me alone. It's a the impact. I didn't have enough caffeine today not enough, it very.
Historical Accuracy and Pop Culture Banter
Speaker 1They changed up names. But that movie isn't enough. It's very historical because it's about the Satsuma Rebellion, where the samurai rebelled against Japan starting to go more imperial and opening up to the world Western, because Japan was very so for the longest time Japan had a code of they're themselves. They're closed off. They're closed off from the fucking world.
Speaker 3They will trade with us, but they will never be us but when the movie depicts it, there's really no good.
Speaker 1Or, as they kind of depict, the emperor and imperial Japan is bad. But the samurai in reality did not want to give up their their, their privilege. That is part of their, because the samurai ways die when japan opens up. It's kind of sad and they depicted that very, very well. They didn't want to. The samurai weren't really bad because they weren't giving up their way of life, but for japan to grow and to thrive, they needed to open up to the world. So it's kind of a bittersweet sad thing because when I look, when you look up what the code of the samurai Bushido is, that is basically how I live my fucking life. I'm curious if Jay's going to detest that. You're like no, why would I? I want to get all of them in characters, like down my arm tattooed, because I just love Bushido. It's honor, loyalty and all that stuff. So that's why and samurai is some of my favorite, honestly, if you don't live by that.
Speaker 3how do you even have friends and family who believe in you?
Speaker 1Yeah, tom, Cruise was great in it. Ken Watanabe was just great he was my favorite. They changed his name. But I like when they're in the hill they don't got many left and shit. And he's like tell me what happened to the brave men at thermopoly, dead to the last. He smiles. I'm like they died on their fucking principles and I just I, it's, it's very historical. And then tom cruise's red armor he gets at the end from the guy he killed was like oh, that fucking armor man, that fucking ah.
Speaker 3Ken's character was my favorite.
Speaker 1My dad loves that movie too. My dad adores that movie, oh fuck.
Speaker 3A unified Japan. What the hell was the new Hulu show that they just released? Shogun Shogun, that was pretty good. I hated that they changed Nobunaga's name, yeah.
Speaker 2That's based off the story that's written about him. Yeah.
Speaker 1Oh yeah. You would like that one if you watched it. I've watched bits and pieces.
Speaker 3It's supposed to get a season 2, but I don't know when that's going to happen.
Speaker 1I will say this Most historical shit I eat up. You should see, we just unpacked all my shit, a lot of my shit. I have probably 50, 60 books of history egypt, japan, everything. People want to know why. I'm smart because I read. That's where I got in history like when we're talking. This guy's books actually make you intelligent, no matter what source and history fascinates me when a lot of people it's boring like I paid so how do you advance as a civilization if you don't know your own history?
Speaker 1I just watched a goddamn video a couple nights ago like an hour long, a guy discussing the best and worst accomplishment of each uS president. You want to know who I could do a president discussion with? He's not here. I could discuss that almost every president with him just nonstop, Because we've had those talks he's not a main cast member as much as you want him to be.
Speaker 3He's a hobbit. That would be kind of political. We could do a video call with him right now.
Speaker 1It'd be kind of political in a way, but I agree with what a lot of my YouTubers say about that. It's only political when you start getting to the modern politics, when you start getting to like Bush, Sr Reagan and shit. Then you start getting controversial. You're going to start offending people, but before that, Before thousands, Before yeah, that's when politics started getting very a little divisive.
Speaker 3That's also the same time when we stopped advancing technology. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because all the stuff we have now we technically had already Just smaller, more capable. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So yeah, like smartphones haven't changed in the last 20 years Smartphones? No, they really haven't. And now we flip them.
Speaker 1Yeah, now they close and shit. Yeah, now they close and shit. God, it was, years, it was.
Speaker 3You know the Google, the Google Glass eyes? Yeah, we had those in the fucking 90s too, but they weren't as technologically superior as they would say now.
Speaker 1Oh, I forgot one thing. There's one thing I always got to tell people Last Samurai is fairly historically accurate, but everyone's like the Samurai were fighting the fucking Imperial Japanese Army with swords. Me, that's bullshit. They had guns, they had guns.
Speaker 3What about the ninja? What the ninja? When they did shit at night? Oh my god, they didn't call them that, but that's what they were.
Speaker 1The ninja were the enemy of the samurai, so that was kind of no, they used guns in that the samurai used guns. People think they were just fighting with swords. They used guns too.
Speaker 3Mostly handguns, but they did use muskets.
Speaker 2They were using muskets. They swallowed their pride to use the guns, though they didn't like guns that was his big push yeah.
Speaker 3We don't want to use guns. He was actually Nobunaga was one of the biggest ones to push for using guns and cannons.
Speaker 2That's why he killed the Takeda so easily. Uh-huh, I know my Samurai.
Speaker 3Warriors. Well, yeah, one of your favorite fucking video games.
Speaker 1I know. Samurai. Samurai. Okay, enough of my love for Samurai Wait.
Speaker 3I'm not going to do it. Quietly, quietly. Good morning Vietnam. I'm a big-ass Robin Williams fan and it actually is somewhat historically accurate as far as Now. We're all the earlier.
Speaker 2Now I understand.
Speaker 3Yeah, Did he roll you back that far to understand what we were talking about? Yeah, now I Put the toothpaste back in the tube. It's like whoa.
Speaker 1Okay, I remember when you shouted that, when it was like midnight, yep.
Speaker 3I couldn't fucking help myself. I held it back this time. Sure, you did, I did. I could have been louder.
Speaker 2That is what she said.
Speaker 3Not to most people.
Speaker 1I'm just. I'm more surprised that I Depends on where you're doing it.
Speaker 3I could have been quieter. No, you wouldn't In church.
Speaker 2I talked about religion enough today. I can make that joke.
Speaker 3What were you doing in confession? Your mother, All right all right, we lost Dean again.
Speaker 1Oh well, your mother. Oh my God, I know I picked up all of them.
Speaker 2He's still two blocks behind picking up the jokes that we left behind.
Speaker 1No, I talked about Last Samurai. I'm in Samurai time.
Speaker 3Yeah, I know, he's still in honor mode.
Film Discussions and Historical Reflections
Speaker 1Low key. No, I'm not an honorable mention. You want to know something that kind of ruined. You want to know something. I was talking to one of my other friends who's really big in history at work. You want to know something this motherfucker said to me that did not ruin the Last Samurai, but always makes me chuckle when he says it. He's like dude, low-key, the Last Samurai a little bit about you and I'm like why? The Last Samurai is literally about the first weeb. I'm like bro, fuck you. You know, what he's saying. It's not wrong.
Speaker 2Talking about kicking you while you're down. It's about them, like what he Talking about kicking you while you're down.
Speaker 1It's about them like what?
Speaker 3Yeah, it's about the first weeb, the first guy, japan, the guy who goes to appreciate Japan's culture. Japan, the real culture, not the anime thing.
Speaker 1Even though Japan, anime is a part of their culture. Now, okay, let's just say it Anime.
Speaker 3Anime, anime. Sadly, you can't go to certain areas of Japan without seeing somebody dressed up in cosplay.
Speaker 2I'd rather be watching anime right now. What I'd rather be watching anime right now Anime Shangri-La. Gotta finish it at some point.
Speaker 1Oh, then we talk about it. I'm curious about it. It's not a hype, but I like it a lot. I've been keeping up with it. So how many?
Speaker 3honorable mentions do you guys have?
Speaker 2I didn't do my number one yet. Yeah, matt didn't do his number one yet. Number one, I just said it was set already. It was Saving Private.
Speaker 1Ryan. Oh God, I should have known that I could have figured that I really could have Talk about all-star cast. Yeah.
Speaker 2Future potential.
Speaker 3I left like two off One, One off of mine Full. It's like two off One, One off of mine Full metal jacket. That's a good one.
Speaker 2You want a full metal jacket. Two of my three remaining honorable mentions are Russell Crowe.
Speaker 1My nom movies. If you listen to full metal Gibson line, my nom movies were down to three. We were Soldiers, platoon and Apocalypse Now and Apocalypse, now Apocalypse. Now, well, I got all, and.
Speaker 2Apocalypse.
Speaker 1Now Apocalypse Now. Well, I got all them on. I have all these on Blu-ray. I will literally show you when you're downstairs. But uh, um, no, platoon's iconic because you got fucking, uh, the foe Getting shot and shit. That's the cover of the movie. The foe look cool as a bitch and it's hard to see it because he looks so young and cool. In that fucking movie he's got his bandana and shit. That's fucking the Green Goblin when he was in the military. Shit, how fucking young was he in that movie. How old that's from movies from the 80s Platoon.
Speaker 3It was the 80s, platoon's an old movie man. I didn realize he was that old. I'm curious now I'm watching that movie as a kid when it was brand fucking new 86 here.
Speaker 1Matt can do the math real quick. Hold on. Movie was 86. The foe was born in 55. 31. He was young man.
Speaker 3The foe's not young he had less gray than I do now in my beard.
Speaker 1Yeah, the foe was 31 in that. Wow, god, that's young.
Speaker 3Wow, now that just makes me feel old. Now Platoon.
Speaker 1Directed by Oliver Stone. I don't think I've heard his name since he's kind of, I wonder. He used to get very, very, very political and I'm wondering if that kind of calmed his career down a little bit. He was a big conspiracy guy.
Speaker 2Oh, he's got a one-off coming role. Oh who, the follower, william Oliver Stone. Oh. White Lies Pre-production. Is that a reboot? Oh, his last movie that you may have heard of was Snowden. Yeah, he does a lot of political shit.
Speaker 1Oh, that's why I told you, oliver Stone does a lot Very political.
Speaker 2Nuclear now JFK. Destiny betrayed, jfk revisited. Putin interviews Snowden. Mi amigo Hugo, the untold history of the United States.
Speaker 1Yep Savages that's Oliver Stone. Castro and winner that's Oliver Stone.
Speaker 2Wall Street Money never sleeps. That's Oliver Stone World Trade Center. That's Oliver Stone. Wall Street Money Never Sleeps. That's Oliver Stone World Trade Center. That's all he does South of the Border?
Speaker 3I've definitely heard of his stuff.
Speaker 2Definitely W, as in George W Bush, low-key.
Speaker 1That one was Low-key, that shit was funny Alexander who did they have portray as Chaney? I never mentioned. I love Alexander, good movie.
Speaker 2That's probably the biggest deviation between any of his movies. Alexander yes, america Undercover Commandant, any Given Sunday, I guess that's a big flip too. U-turn, nixon, natural Born Killers. Nixon, nixon. Jfk the Doors, born on the Fourth of July, oliver Stone, is that script political? Let me JFK the Doors.
Speaker 1Born on the 4th of July, oliver Stone. Is that script political? Let me direct it.
Speaker 3He knows his niche.
Speaker 2Niche Last year in Vietnam. Oh, Oliver, what are?
Speaker 1you doing? Oh my god, they didn't randomly do.
Speaker 2Alexander, any given Sunday who played?
Speaker 1Alexander Colin Far Sunday who played Alexander Colin Farrell? It was Colin Farrell. Yeah, who's the?
Speaker 2penguin. Now, my three honorable mentions were Cinderella man, ooh Master and Commander Yep. And then, just to give it a shout-out, because one of the more recent ones for historical was the Ministry of Ungenual and Warfare Yep, I'm just going to get that one. How could I?
Speaker 3forget about that and it was actually in our movie.
Speaker 1Couple for me. Well, there's Northman. This one is very modern. I'm sure this is very modern. It's not Mark Wahlberg by Lone Survivor, historical, it's a true story. This one is a Mom dropped something, apparently. This one's very. Another emotional one, but a true story. American Sniper.
Speaker 2That one was on there. It's more of a documentary, basically. In a way who played?
Speaker 1Chris, it was Bradley Cooper, wasn't it? Yeah, my Civil War movie Glory, matthew Broderick.
Speaker 3Denzel.
Speaker 1Morgan Freeman what?
Speaker 3do you mean not Revolutionary?
Speaker 1You, son of a bitch, you're doing it to yourself. I don't fucking care. I almost forgot. You did it, even though the unison of me and Matt looking. When you said Revolutionary, I questioned myself. No, you said Civil War, I questioned myself as I said it no.
Speaker 3When you said civil war yeah. When you said civil.
Speaker 2See, you're doing it to the self of yourself in the backwards way.
Speaker 1It's that easy. Another good civil. We're Americans, we know our own history. No, we don't. Another good civil.
Speaker 2Unquoted war of 1812 yet Another good civil war?
Speaker 3Fuck that war. That confuses me.
Speaker 1the most, another one that could have been on, another one that I really liked Inglourious Bastards. Yeah, that one feels less historic. I know. But I'm sorry Brad Pitt, with another quote for me we had a killing Nazi business.
Speaker 3You killed Hitler in the movie Dude. Between that one and.
Speaker 1The killing Nazi business and business is good.
Speaker 2I like when the fucking Monument man that was a big one too, yeah, that one actually yeah.
Speaker 1I like when the fucking, when they're hyping up the big Jew that comes out with the bat.
Speaker 2Tarantino kills me. Man, you have another reason to hate him. The bear Jew, the bear Jew, the bear Jew. Do you know why? No, he's the director of the Borderlands movie.
Speaker 1Wait, that's fucking, don't say his. Oh fuck, eli Roth. Yeah, that is Eli Roth, eli Roth. A couple movies that were not said.
Speaker 2I'm curious here. Technically, schindler's List hasn't been said and that's in a lot of top 10. That's depressing.
Speaker 3I know, but that's depressing.
Speaker 2I'm just bringing it up. It's not a favorite. It's a good movie in terms of what it does, but it's not a favorite movie by any means. True story it's about Oscar Schindler, who saved a lot of Jews.
Speaker 3Yeah. I didn't put the movie about. Anne. Frank on there.
Speaker 2Yeah, which one has. What's the movie with Liam Neeson as the lawyer or as a racist? I can't remember. I saw that on a lot of lists too. Liam Neeson as a racist. I can't remember that. I saw that on a lot of lists too. Liam Neeson as a racist. Yeah, it's a black and white movie. It's like To Kill a Mockingbird or something. It's in that realm. It's an old ass title. I can't remember what it is, though, but that was on a lot of lists.
Speaker 3You said lawyer in To Kill a Mockingbird.
Speaker 2I thought he was the lawyer in the movie To Kill a Mockingbird. Has a lawyer in it, but I can't remember what it is. Look at his IMDb Speaking of people looking old oh my god, technically it is.
Speaker 3My school wanted me to read that book and I didn't. That's got me fucked up. I'll watch the movie instead. What movie To Kill a Mockingbird? No, technically it is what?
Speaker 1Titanic?
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, no technically it is what Titanic? Oh yeah, Technically it is.
Speaker 3How did that not make your list? I've loved, I've.
Speaker 1That is one of. I have worshipped Titanic on this podcast randomly so many fucking times. I was not going to fucking worship Titanic again. Ah, damn it. Now I'm thinking about Celine Dion. Yeah, my heart will go on. There was room on that door for Jack. Oh, fuck, one of my favorite. My dad's ruined that movie for me Because when they're in the car, when we're watching, she's giving it. When she puts her hand against there, against the thing, when they're doing it in the car, my dad's like, oh, right there, dc's giving to her. Good, right there. I'm like, oh, fuck you I'm thinking of schindler's list.
Speaker 2That's where my fucking brain is right now. You?
Speaker 3give it to her. Good schindler's, are you in a gas chamber?
Film Conversations and Upcoming Movies
Speaker 2no, but that's liam neeson and schindler's list. That's where my brain is going. That's the picture of him I'm seeing people.
Speaker 1people ask me dean, can I watch a movie that makes me hate my fellow humans? Yeah, watch Schindler's List. That's not the only one there's plenty. Any movie that has to do with the Holocaust.
Speaker 2Watch it. Some ones that didn't get said 1917, Dunkirk.
Speaker 3Wait, I didn't say Dunkirk on purpose.
Speaker 1I didn't say 1917 because as beautifully shot as that movie is, that movie bored the shit out of me. The whole movie is him running. That's the whole fucking movie. I'm sitting here like bro, can you kill something? Old movie? If I want running, I'll watch Forrest Gump.
Speaker 3No, yo, what's your Tom Cruise movie?
Speaker 2Last of the Mohicans. Last of the Mohicans.
Speaker 3Son of a bitch.
Speaker 1Lincoln Twelve.
Speaker 2Years a Slave Vampire Slayer. Most historic movie ever. Darkest Hour, gary Oldman's one of the last movies. That was a decent, good movie. All the President's Men, forrest Gump Low key. It goes. Based off of somebody there's Platoon All the President's Men, oppenheimer. Forrest Gump Low key, low key. It goes for somebody there's Platoon Oppenheimer. Yeah, that was a more recent one, I didn't know.
Speaker 1I need to give you a chance, dennis Quaid, reagan, yeah that was one of the more recent ones.
Speaker 3I still want to watch that with you Hidden Figures you, me and my grandfather. Let's sit down and watch that, Roger Aikens.
Speaker 2Hidden Figures is an underrated movie. Speaking of Kevin Costner, there's Good Morning Vietnam.
Speaker 1War Horse. Yeah, hey, there's Napoleon. I heard that suck. What's my bad? The Hurt Walker? Oh yes, hey, I heard that suck. What's my bad? The Hurt Walker? Oh yes, hey, there's one of me and Jay's favorite movies. We used to dunk on all the time in theaters when it was a trailer Dunkirk. That's why I didn't make it to the list, because me and you oh, this is going to be good and we quote said this is going to be shit and the fucking theater laughed. Hotel, rwanda, hotel.
Speaker 2Rwanda.
Speaker 3Chariots of Fire. No, why did we say that? Did we say that because of Nolan? Yes, we said it purely because of Nolan.
Speaker 1I believe it was Nolan. Yes.
Speaker 2Zero.
Speaker 1Dark Thirty Yep. That's about the mission to kill Bin Laden.
Speaker 2The Revenant.
Speaker 1Yes. Damn I should have said Firebrand when Jude Law played Henry VIII. No, that's my joke to people. Watch that movie. You want to know how you deal with women? Watch that movie.
Speaker 3What's the most recent one we've seen that had Fuck. You were in it, adam Driver. What?
Speaker 1Megalopolis.
Speaker 3No, no, no, Not Megalopolis, it was in the Medieval Times Last Duel. Last Duel, I betrayed you in that movie. Yeah, you did, fucker.
Speaker 2The original Ben-Hur. Oh my god.
Speaker 1Like rappers up there are like yeah Ben-Hur. Oh my god, like rappers up there are like yeah Ben-Hur.
Speaker 2Letters from Iwo Jima.
Speaker 1I almost had that on there Letters from Iwo Jima that movie got. Who directed Letters from Iwo Jima that?
Speaker 2movie got. That was one of two that he did in the time that worked.
Speaker 1I didn't like that because that movie got a lot of shit because it was about the Japanese soldiers sending their loved ones letters and shit. People didn't like that. I'm like I get it, it's not American. I get it, it's not the American perspective. But the Japanese were fighting for their land too. So you know, you got to think from their perspective.
Speaker 3They were soldiers too, just fulfilling an order they got, and everyone who was in war is human, except for the ones at top of the order.
Speaker 1As horrible as dropping the atomic bombs were. I always tell people it's like you need to like. That was terrible. How could America do that? It wasn't good, but you need to think about it this way. Do you know how many lives it would have cost American troops to take the mainland of Japan? A lot, so they're like. Truman made the call and they were warned. Them citizens were warned to get out before they dropped the bombs. They were warned. So I always gotta put people on history game their emperor told them it was fine not to leave.
Speaker 2And now we got Godzilla. And now I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3I'm a horrible human being for that joke. I'm fine with that. I'm a horrible human being for that joke. I'm fine with having Godzilla.
Speaker 2No, the only joke is Godzilla.
Speaker 3No, that's why I won't ever move to New York.
Speaker 1Oh, one of my favorite things, jurassic Park, the Lost World when a Japanese guy's running, he's saying some shit in Japanese and it's translated. I ran away from Japan to get away from this shit, japan.
Speaker 2Holodime T-Rex, oh no.
Speaker 1Yeah, we got damn near.
Speaker 3The arm movements he was just making there. I'm tired, leave me alone.
Speaker 2We damn near fucking.
Speaker 3Well, we got it. Do we have anything upcoming to say?
Speaker 2No, next one's going to be Kraven, isn't it? I believe so.
Speaker 3Oh boy, expect a lot of Marvel talk and then Dean going off the handle. December 13th, it's Kraven. He's been the biggest defender of that movie. He says it every time that trailer comes on. Don't you suck, I'm your biggest defender.
Speaker 2So, yes, red 1 could have come out at any of the next two weeks and would have landed in December versus now. It would have been acceptable in December versus now, it would have been acceptable at December 1st.
Speaker 1Really would have been. I mean what?
Speaker 2We need to figure out what we're doing for December, because I don't know if we can do three episodes in December. I don't know. With. Craven, mufasa, sonic 3, and Nosferatu. I don't think we Well what we could With Kraven, mufasa, sonic 3, and Nosferatu. I don't think we're gonna get three oh what a fucking we might have to do.
Speaker 1Double features Not double features, but two movies each podcast.
Speaker 2Some of those I'm gonna have to see twice.
Speaker 3It's not the first time we've done that. No, I know we had a podcast where we covered like six movies. I mean we ain't had no death Because I wasn't with you guys.
Speaker 1Marvel has been quiet. It's going to be quiet.
Speaker 3No, because we already talked about.
Speaker 2Agatha all along. We didn't talk about any finishing product of Agatha all along. No, we did not, because he was creaming his pants.
Speaker 1I was. Why Death? Oh yeah, Lady Death.
Speaker 2That was right. I didn't even watch the show and I still know I had Lady Death.
Speaker 1Well, I'm gonna tell you Fucking um, I was thinking about it beforehand.
Speaker 3I'm happy that we're pretty much getting a season 2 for it. Maybe, possibly.
Speaker 4I'm not even putting I don't know what the number. I don't know what it's.
Speaker 1That is a hell of a fucking song and then to get the origin of it yeah, it's Agatha just made it up to fucking con people and kill witches and steal her shit, steal her power. That movie makes you not like Agatha boy. You weren't supposed to. I know well, penguin makes you hate Penguin, right at the end You're starting to like you're supposed to. Oh, I know you're supposed to Fuck you. Penguin, fuck you. I was coming around to you.
Speaker 3He was coming around to actually liking him until the very end. That was the goal. You're supposed to hate him, the funny thing is, Dean should have seen it coming, Because Penguin himself said why'd you say that? Why did you have to go and say that?
Speaker 1We're like family. I'm your friend, vic, I'm your best buddy, family, oswald, come here. Come here and the audacity of this motherfucker to take his ID and take his last 20 bucks. You low man, I don't want Batman to beat your ass.
Speaker 2Next movie, just be in the next movie first. We still don't know anything about that movie.
Speaker 3We have no clue what's going on.
Speaker 1It ends with hope. It ends with the bat signal turning on. That's the end. Batman's like oh shit, what's?
Speaker 3going on. I'm finally going to pay attention to explosions.
Speaker 1It reminds me of Robot Chicken. Whenever Batman's sitting at the bar and someone's trying to talk to him, Hold up. That's Fuck Robot Chicken.
Speaker 3That's what we have technically coming up. We have Kraven, which would be probably a standalone podcast, right?
Speaker 2Possibly it's the only one coming out, not during a week of anything else, yeah.
Speaker 3I'm kind of sad about Sonic 3, Mufasa.
Marvel Movie Trailer Analysis
Speaker 2We don't have to do one on Mufasa technically, but we still have to talk about other movies.
Speaker 3I definitely want to do one on Sonic.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean that's got a franchise.
Speaker 3It's a franchise and you get Keanu.
Speaker 2The trailer was even in the movie.
Speaker 1Hey, they made him do the awkward slide. I've heard a theory people analyzing Thunderbolts' trailer saying that Taskmaster ain't in a movie long.
Speaker 2Apparently she gets offed quick well, to be fair, in the most recent trailer where they're all talking to Valentina. She's there in that recent shot he knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2But it's mainly. I think I've already figured out part of the plot of the movie. Oh, okay, he knows what I'm talking about. Yeah, but it's mainly. I think I've already figured out part of the plot of the movie. Oh no, because you know who isn't in that scene? It's Bob. Oh boy, they're all going to get out and Bob's going to be the one that saves the fucking day. I have a feeling that's how it's going to go. It's going to go the Superman Justice League route, where he's going to come since he's so powerful, you can't have him in the entire movie and he's just going to save the day at the end.
Speaker 1I have never liked Century that much as a character, so I'm not really that hyped for it. I'm like, oh, whoopee, century, I'm okay with the guy playing him, though it's fucking. It's Marvel, superman in a way Worse and Jay's just like. Look, they keep using characters from World War Hulk and they're just going to ignore the story I have I have very little interest in Skeleton Crew, but it's just going to be Goonies Star Wars.
Speaker 3I like the concept when you put it that way.
Speaker 2I like the concept yeah it has a change, it's a Star.
Speaker 3Wars universe, but Goonies who doesn't like Goonies?
Speaker 2Hey you guys. But Jude Law is just going to be another Jedi. That survived.
Speaker 1Fucking. Order of Nine. Another Order of Nine.
Speaker 2They did not have to do that, because it's an overplayed trope, because they don't have any creative ideas.
Speaker 3They really don't.
Speaker 2Yeah, because cause I mean there's a lot of fucking Jedi that survived that shit. He can be a Jedi sympathizer, he doesn't have to be a Jedi, or?
Speaker 3a new fucking person discovering the force. What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1what is wrong with? Somebody discovering the force. Obi-wan survived, yoda survived, the guy from Skeleton Crew survived, plo Koon survived. Don't forget that the games are canon. The games? Yeah, I was the games. Yeah, I was waiting for Matt to look at no.
Speaker 2Dean, he did not, he kept talking, otherwise I'm gonna say fireball.
Speaker 1Me or him? No, you know what the worst thing he ever fucking did, when my Plo Koon pop fell off the table. Asshole, oh he dead.
Speaker 2And now there's Plo the table Asshole oh he's dead. I know this. Plokoon he dead. Oh, that was too good. There's so many poetic moments. Oh he dead.
Speaker 1See he dead. That had to be the one fucking pop that fell off the fucking ship. God damn it. He flew off too, didn't he? He ejected.
Speaker 2He didn't eject the time. Mace Windu has a bigger chance of being alive than Plo Koon. Does that motherfucker got?
Speaker 1flew off into the fucking city.
Speaker 3Yep, he's coming back. Watch him show up at the end.
Speaker 2That's still the biggest fucking joke ever, what it's like. Why does Mason have a purple lightsaber? Because Samuel Jackson wanted a fucking purple lightsaber.
Speaker 3I've seen the scene. Okay, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2But it's because of that reason. That's how we got the lore of the different color lightsabers. There was no lore outside of it until that point.
Speaker 3I've seen the backstage. I like that we have lore on it now because of him, though. I've seen the backstage. I like that we have lore on it now because of him, though. I've seen the backstage scene, the whole thing that, and Disney still can't get it right.
Speaker 1No, they can't. I've seen the backstage scene of that shit of Samuel L and George Lucas. Can I have a purple one? They're usually, I mean, red's for the bad guys. Green and blue are generally for the good guys, sam. Well, what about a purple one? We?
Speaker 2could probably work something out. What about purple and Disney? Still can't get it fucking right. It's not how you plead a cry of chiropractic, I'm kind of happy Acolyte, season 2 got canceled.
Speaker 1I'm like, yeah, as much as there were a couple things I kind of thought were.
Speaker 3The first, second or third time Cancel.
Speaker 2That they blend Ansel. The last time was enough. Oh yeah, she corrupted it and it turned red Because we told you not to.
Speaker 3Speaking of witches, hey, agatha's witches made sense to me.
Speaker 2Yeah, I wish the witches in.
Speaker 3Star Wars went down the witches road and died. Yes, actually, no one of them. No One of them lived. One of them lived.
Speaker 1Yeah, the black chick, she did not die. No, she didn't die. Now you got Wiccan.
Speaker 2You are getting your Young Avengers thing.
Speaker 3apparently, I'm fine with that, but I actually I want Amadeus.
Speaker 2Cho. No, you're getting Scar.
Speaker 3You fuck off.
Speaker 2He's in the banner.
Speaker 3Scar doesn't fucking make sense. He's in the banner. He makes no sense.
Speaker 1I'm more. I'm more his Hulk. I'm more Matt. He did it. I'm more Matt. He said Amadeus, I'm like I actually.
Speaker 2Because he makes more sense. I've read so does Hulkling over Scar Hulkling better fucking show up. No, we got.
Speaker 3I've read. So does Hulkling over Scar Hulkling? Better fucking show up Hulkling. No, we got Wiccan, and his boyfriend has been mentioned. Yeah.
Speaker 2It's not Hulkling.
Speaker 3I don't know if they shared the same name or not. I didn't pay that close enough attention.
Speaker 1unfortunately, I always tell Jay, it's like the Hulk I've read a little bit is Amadeus Cho, because he's got charisma, he's energetic Fucker, likes the party. I'm like this is my Hulk.
Speaker 3Remember when Marvel did the all-new Marvel thing? Yeah, he became the Hulk because Hulk was dead, dead, dead. It was before we got Immortal Hulk.
Speaker 2The next Marvel TV project is Daredevil, isn't it? I think?
Speaker 1so I think so. I mean they showed. I thought it was going to get axed, but they showed clips of freshman year for Spider-Man. It's coming. They showed clips.
Speaker 2Slow the fuck down. They showed clips.
Speaker 1So that is coming. Oh, Blade's dead.
Speaker 2I'm pretty sure Blade's dead. Nothing's been said or confirmed it, but we all know it killed it. Thank the movie.
Speaker 1There are only ever going to be one Blade. You want to talk about quotable movies? There are only ever going to be one blade. You wanna talk about quotable movies? There only ever gonna be one blade.
Speaker 2All three Deadpool movies are fucking quotable yeah, all the dinosaurs fear the T-Rex.
Speaker 1You know what? I hate that? Because there's two quotes from Deadpool 3. There ever only gonna be one blade, and when they're arresting Wade, whoa, whoa, whoa. Pegging's not new to me, friend, but it is to Disney.
Speaker 2I love the subtle homage when they were introducing all three of the variants and Wesley Stanton says I don't like you and it's like you never did.
Speaker 1You never did Well. Ryan Reynolds had to come out and say because there was a thing, for a long time they hated each other. He's like we didn't hate each other.
Speaker 2Apparently there's traction for Channing Tatum's gambit again now.
Speaker 1Oh God, yes, Yep, god, that actually was terrible it was bad, but it weirdly grows on you though, even though it's bad, like I just did it At Emmy level.
Speaker 3It's actually not horrible when you go down south. He actually is from there, he's from there, he was just doing his actual accent when he lived there.
Speaker 2The reason he went into breakdancing training is because he wanted to play Gambit and he got Magic Mike instead.
Random Packers and Football Banter
Speaker 1Oh my God, you know a funny thing when you think about fucking accents. This is the most random because you said accents and shit down south. This is the most random correlation ever to Gambit was because of accents. There is a football player that I just love watching his fucking interviews because you can Xavier Leguette from the Panthers. He has so much Southern draw you cannot even understand what the fuck he's saying half the time.
Speaker 3I think I've seen a few of those.
Speaker 2I just love sending people Namdi Asma. One have them try to say it. Namdi Asma, he was a cornerback for the Raiders and Eagles.
Speaker 1I remember Kabir Bajab being.
Speaker 3I still can't pronounce his fucking name right, His brother.
Speaker 1Oh fuck, Fuck. I know he has one. Oh fuck, what was it?
Speaker 2Well, akbar, akbar, kabajab being Miller.
Speaker 3That was a one-hit, were them two together a trap.
Speaker 1Bajo.
Speaker 3Big Milla, that was a one hit. Were them two together a trap.
Speaker 1I remember a lot of random ass fucking Packers that were like good for a good, was Gabir, was he a one hit wonder, like one year he was really good then.
Speaker 2he kind of faded One really good patch rush year, but he was around for a while. Aaron Kampman another random fucking Packer I remember he wasn't as random, he had like a good stretch.
Speaker 1Rand, the king of fucking random.
Speaker 2No, if you want the most random players, you want, like Sam Congato, that one's random AJ Hawk Cullen Jenkins.
Speaker 1Oh god Cullen.
Speaker 2Jenkins, corey Williams.
Speaker 1Random packers Alright, everyone, we're on fucking random football shit. We'll do a football one eventually. We'll work it in there.
Speaker 3You need an extra guest for that one.
Speaker 1We'll get it worked out. Oh, we got plenty of time.
Speaker 3Good, good, good, alright, everyone have a good night Signing off For a Sunday. This is very late Sunday. Sunday, sunday. Where's the monster trucks? So good night everybody.
