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In this episode, we dive deep into Ryan Coogler's masterful vampire film "Sinners," a period piece that seamlessly blends horror with profound social commentary. Set against the backdrop of the Jim Crow South, this film uses vampirism as a powerful metaphor for cultural exploitation while delivering genuine thrills and unforgettable characters.
We celebrate Michael B. Jordan's outstanding dual performance as twin brothers Stack and Smoke, each with distinct personalities that drive the narrative in different directions. The film's standout newcomer Miles Catton steals scenes as Preacher Boy Sammy, bringing both musical talent and emotional depth to his role. Jack O'Connell's portrayal of the vampire Remick perfectly balances charm with savagery—embodying the classic vampire archetype while adding contemporary nuance.
What makes "Sinners" exceptional is how it honors traditional vampire lore—invitations required to enter homes, garlic as repellent, wooden stakes as weapons—while using these elements to explore deeper themes of cultural identity and preservation. The film's spectacular dance sequence demonstrating how musical traditions evolve through cultural exchange stands as one of the most powerful scenes in recent cinema.
Beyond our "Sinners" review, we share our top ten vampire films, sparking passionate debate about classics like "From Dusk Till Dawn," "Blade," and "30 Days of Night" alongside newer entries. Our conversation highlights how vampire films reflect broader cultural anxieties and why certain portrayals resonate more strongly than others.
Whether you're a horror enthusiast or appreciate thoughtful filmmaking that transcends genre boundaries, this episode offers insights into how modern directors are reinventing vampire storytelling while honoring its rich traditions. Join us as we sink our teeth into the perfect blend of entertainment and meaningful commentary that makes "Sinners" an instant classic.
Hello, one and all, welcome to the Night Fallsville podcast. Well, technically, the return of the Night Fallsville podcast, because it's been a while, and it's not night, because tomorrow's Easter Yep, that's true, that's true, that's true, we're taking a rise, but this is the After the fall, the Ryan Coogler Sinners Review. That was a Jesus joke, yeah, yeah, this is our review for the new Ryan Coogler vampire film Sinners. I mean, we do search for eggs all the time. Yeah, Easter eggs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So the movie is worth all the hype it gets, Are we sure? None of us have kids Because we're just making dad jokes? Now I got one dad joke I can share on the thing and everybody will hate me for it. Are we going to be that cheesy just because we're sconsonites?
Speaker 2:Oh my god.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. Name one celebrity you would want to forge you a sword, like an actual sword. Name your celebrity that you would want to forge you a sword. Oh god, forge me a sword. Yes, I don't know. My vote is Will Smith. Guess why? Why, he's a blacksmith. You know the worst part about that is. Will Smith would probably actually appreciate that joke.
Speaker 2:Oh God, there are other Smiths out there, but I'm the only black Smith yeah, I told that joke on Friday.
Speaker 1:My boss told me to go home. I had a half day, you tell it. Right before the end of the day too, ten o'clock, we watched Sinners. I was going to say A day before Easter. Yes, we did.
Speaker 1:That's poetic in its own way, isn't it? Yes, it is. God damn you, ryan Coogler. You had this planned, but it was supposed to be in March, so they changed it, so that it did this, especially the message in the movie. They outsmarted us once again. This, especially the message in a movie. They outsmarted us once again. God damn it. Oh, we didn't let them in, we just joined them Almost. We're worst Him willingly. Oh my God, haley Steinfeld on their side.
Speaker 2:They got him. I was very, it only took a little flirting too.
Speaker 1:You see that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was very much Will Ferrell when they went to the door the first time and Sammy walked in and saw what was going on and walked away and then I went. But geez, that escalated quickly when they walked back and she was killing him.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised he didn't see that coming. Well, you got to start at the beginning, at the forefront. Even more than the vampire. It's a period movie. It's a period piece honestly as great as the vampires are. It's a period movie. It's a period piece honestly as great as the vampires are. They're kind of the second fiddle to the period piece stuff.
Speaker 2:They're the secondary plot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Deal with the Devil would probably be the top plot. It's almost like fucking Ryan Coogler was like. I have a period piece. This is awesome, but how can I spice this up?
Speaker 2:Let's throw some vampires in there.
Speaker 1:He's got multiple messages in this movie. Well, he's got the whole Jim Crow thing Very obvious.
Speaker 1:And then you have the whole family setting where you're not really I picked up. This is one of the biggest ones and it's subtle, but he used vampires. He put vampires in it for a reason. He put them in there as a metaphor for culture-vulching, stealing culture and shit. That's what I got In the deeper meaning. So, yes, I think he just decided how would I shoot from dusk till dawn? Yeah, not necessarily culture-vulching, but staying true to your own culture and having things that are sacred to you, with all these people doing this, doing that and trying to get in with this. Trying to get in with that. It's about keeping your culture sacred.
Speaker 1:I didn't see that I did, especially with the whole dance scene where they showed how music and every culture evolved from interacting with each other.
Speaker 1:I don't know. A lot of people have said that's what they got from it. So I kind of was, eh, I don't know, For the most part of that scene, yes, but then you started doing it into the Chinese elements and then it kind of takes off into a multiculturalism thing. So you were just I would agree with it more if they just stayed towards the history of blues and whatever. But since they kind of did deviate with they went everywhere. And it just stayed.
Speaker 1:It's on that track yes, but I think it became more multicultural with it. I only say that because I'm big on keeping my culture and shit. I like culture and shit, so I like. You know, meh, like, if anyone's trying to be Serb, that's not Serb. It's like well, shut the fuck up you dumbass, you don't even get the honorary Serb card from you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you get out of here, I'm dead. Hey man, can I have some Slevo? No, you ain't Serb, I'm just. I had the. That was mostly a joking statement, but there's a lot of messages in it. Shit, some and others. Shit if I'm white and I can enjoy the movie. Nothing's heavy-handed about it. That's historical Jim Crow South Shit. What the fuck you want it happened. Learn from it. I mean, the acting was all phenomenal across the board. There was no weak link to anything.
Speaker 2:The fact that the new fucking actor.
Speaker 1:they pulled out of nowhere the fact that first-time actor is one of the standout roles is funny. Like what the fuck? I mean, what was his name? Again the actor? I'm not sure the character was Preacher Boy Sammy, but I'm not sure Actor name. I forgot it was the first name and the end credits. I wasn't even really paying attention because I was waiting for the scene that apparently a lot of people left the movie before they watched.
Speaker 1:There were less ones in there again. Miles Catton I wanted to say Miles too. I kind of hope to see him in more. He did a great job that was his voice. He definitely had a voice For 19 years old and I'm kind of hoping. I hope that was him actually playing the fucking guitar too, because it looked like great finger placement to me. Actually, most of the instruments being played in that movie looked like good finger placement.
Speaker 1:I didn't catch that what. What was Sammy's love interest's name? I didn't catch that at all, yeah, that's why we didn't catch it.
Speaker 2:What they didn't say. Her name enough.
Speaker 1:What was her name? Pierline? Huh, her name was Pearline or Pierline, hmm, that Pierline or Pierline. That's what he named the club.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:That he was playing in as he was older. I didn't catch that. I didn't either.
Speaker 2:His band or club. All I caught was that it was freaking.
Speaker 1:70 years later that was in the 80s 80 years. He was 1992. I don't remember when. The first 1930. So 60 years. So he was probably in his 70s, 80s. Maybe he's an old man, but his band name was named after her. I didn't catch that one when we were watching it. That went over my head.
Speaker 2:That did?
Speaker 1:I suppose I didn't learn her name. All I did was learn that she had a button? I don't even know if they said her name more than once or twice in the movie. I don't even think they did. I'll have to pay attention when I see it again. I remember that she had a husband. She cheated on him and he quickly learned where her button was. Michael B Jordan is great playing twins. He gave them both their own character.
Speaker 2:They both had their own freaking personality.
Speaker 1:One was the stoic brother that protected you and thought about things on a serious note. The other one was about the entertainment and living life, and that movie put every twist and turn they could to make sure that they didn't have to share the screen multiple times and look at you the same way. Outside of the beginning they pretty much didn't. Had they not said the name, I would have been confused. Who was who? That dictates that goes against the point where the yeah, you play them all. They play differently when they're with each other. But then it was hard to follow who was who when you were not Just only a little.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just a little. When they first showed them it was like, okay, who's that? And then they had to say the name for me to. Oh, okay, I got it it was either when they were interacting with their girlfriends or but not. That was kind of the biggest issue there Because when Stack was on top of the stairs with Haley, which I forgot her fucking name too.
Speaker 1:Mary that one was easy and they were interacting. They were talking about money. I was like, hold on now. Is that smoke? Nope, because he's the one who cared more about the money. But he's the antagonistic. He's always the one looking out for the money and making sure everything's safe. That's why he was the one guarding the truck with the cargo. He's the protective one. Yeah, because Stack would have been fucking. Actually, that was one of my favorite parts of the movie. You steal it from me, poof and shoots the guy in the ass. And just because he's, you know you can't wrong the Smoke Brothers shoots. You can't wrong the Smoke Brothers Shoots the other guy in the leg.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come on, get up, let's go, he pays for their patchwork.
Speaker 1:Anyway, he did shoot the guy in the knee. That's probably not where he wanted to shoot the guy. You can shoot him in the thigh and he'd still have a limp. At least it wasn't an arrow. Well then, he's married. I know, I know that's what that means. That was just so. That was such a good period piece. The vampire stuff aside, to be fair, the movie had you and Haley Steinfeld said what, what I was like, oh yeah, you fucked me so hard. I just left. I'm like excuse me.
Speaker 1:I had a comment in my mind when she walked over. I was like Haley Steinfeld jigglebacked man, josh Allen, hitting that bro. You showed me such a good time. Technically, this movie would have been made before they were married.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:Josh Allen. That's relatively recent, that's January-ish. This movie was already done. Dean's been jealous. You know, actually they who wouldn't be. It's a fun fact. It's a fun fact. I did not know this. I had the background like check it to be sure. I'm not sure if it's grandfather, but Hailee Steinfeld has some black in her. Did you know that she does? I could not. She does my some black in her. Did you know that she does? I could not, she does. My issue is that I've been seeing her in roles since she was a kid.
Speaker 2:Had it been Grandfather.
Speaker 1:That would have been ironic as fuck. One of her Considering her character in the movie. I need to look what it was now, because she said her mom was half black. Or did she say Grandpa was half black In the movie Mary, I gotta Research time. Say Grandpa was half-black In the movie Mary, I got a Research time? Yep, a little bit. What the fuck is that? That's Haley Steinfeld in Ender's Game. That's the first movie I ever saw her in. I didn't even remember that. She's one of her best friends, one of his best friends, so I've seen her in movies since 2013. I was actually kind of sad that I did like the book a lot. Haley Steinfeld's mother. Her mother has Filipino, african American, british Isles and German ancestry, so yeah there's black in her which you couldn't tell.
Speaker 1:It's like, huh, okay, I just was wondering if that was true or not, and it is. I's like, huh, okay, I just was wondering if that was true or not, and it is. I was like, oh okay, that makes sense for a role. Then she's one of them. You couldn't tell, though. You can kind of tell if someone has black features or they're mixed. You can't really tell with her, unless you like gawk.
Speaker 1:Well, it works because in the biography she's like one-eighth black, she's dominated by every other gene. I mean, let's see what else we talked about the period piece stuff. We hit on every vampire trope that we know of. Yeah, coogler didn't change much for classic vampire lore. You said he doesn't change much. What did he change? He didn't change much for classic vampire lore. You said he doesn't change much. What did he change? He didn't change really anything really.
Speaker 2:The only thing he did was give them red eyes. You gotta eat the garlic.
Speaker 1:You gotta kill them by a stick. He gave them the red eyes. That's about the only thing he did. He gave them red eyes. Other than that, he kept everything. They didn't use crosses or nothing, but they did not have access to no crosses or nothing, really, there.
Speaker 2:I don't think.
Speaker 1:No, we could have made one with the yeah, but it's also kind of the hand-in-hand with the holy water, because yeah that's Preacher Boy did bring up holy water, so I'm assuming a cross would have worked.
Speaker 1:Well, he was a preacher. So he wasn't a preacher. He couldn't have blessed the water. He's a preacher by the. The only cross I see, I don't know Mrs Chow had a cross necklace. That's about it, because that is historical. Down in the South, during that time, a lot of Asian, a lot of Chinese immigrants settled there and they were Christian. I don't know if this technically counts.
Speaker 2:It's kind of sad the way she went out then.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it counts as a change, but technically the voodoo bag did operate as a deterrent. No, that's very self Okay.
Speaker 2:I don't know if a concert has changed. They believe in that shit.
Speaker 1:I just didn't know if it helped, and the only reason I learned that is because of what the fuck is that game called? Do you remember the game in New York where the guy gains powers through a fucking storm, or not a storm, a storm? It's like a lightning storm that put crystals all over New York that you could power yourself from.
Speaker 1:Infamous, Infamous, Infamous. Had DLC where you went to Louisiana and it was vampires. You had to save your best bud. It's the only reason I know shit like that is because it made me research it. I was like hold on a second. There's still people in the South that do Bayou voodoo bullshit. That's still a thing. But no, they kept vampire. It's a weird, interesting, freaking religious practice. He kept vampire, but again, vampires are steeped in religion too.
Speaker 2:No matter where you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, every country has a variation of vampires.
Speaker 2:They exist, talk about that they have very. What's your?
Speaker 1:favorite variation In Japan. It's like In Japan it's snake ladies are vampires. There's different Everywhere. Everywhere there's vampires. I just like creatures in general, but I just like that. Do you like the basic Romanian vampire or do you I like it? I like them, but I like a little bit of a change sometimes because the old that, that schtick, those are the ones steep, uh, steeper in romance. They sch no, he Coogler did good, he made no. Coogler did that line, rode that line very good about. With vampires. There's different depictions of them. Savage rode that line very good about. With vampires. There's different depictions of them. You got savage beasts, you got the fucking, really uppity preppy kind of type.
Speaker 2:he mixed them so well he kind of depicted them as Remick was so they're charming.
Speaker 1:Remick was charming, but when they started gnawing on people they were savage as hell. So I'm like I like vampires because they're so charring You'd want to be friends with them, and shit because they must have your mind like that, but they're also savage beasts at heart.
Speaker 2:So it's like I like that, I like that you kind of depicted them as a demon who takes over the body but imprisons the soul. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's up there. It could be my favorite vampire movie of all time. It could be. There's only one that's even remotely competing with it. Okay, let's put it this way Our top ten today. Would it make your list Mine? Oh, I already said it, it's one or two. Yep Rewatching it could overtake one easily. I could see it. I could see it. I don't want to be the recency bias saying it's one already, but it's above the other nine for sure.
Speaker 1:And I love it as limited as my list is, it's very high on mine. It definitely would have made mine. I just. Vampires are more in aspects as much as I just love horror in general. I'm a fan of classic monsters and all that shit. My normal other horror buddy is not here so he'd have a good yap session about this. I like monsters, like classic monsters. The thing about vampires you can do so much with them and they're so intricate to whatever culture and shit Different weaknesses, different this you can do whatever you want. Take something like a zombie. Zombies are pretty traditional. They're either really slow and stupid or fast. There's nothing you really do much with zombies and I love zombie movies.
Speaker 2:Vampires are a little more fun to play with, the only thing you can really switch up about zombies is how they're created Virus mushrooms, you know. Mushrooms.
Speaker 1:I brought it up, I didn't watch the first episode yet Season two. Technically, I didn't watch it. No, I watched up to episode four of the first season before you guys told me everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, it had a very oh. And the comparisons from from Dusk Till Dawn are very accurate, because if you go into there thinking it's not a fucking, if you watch no trailers and don't think it's vampires, you're like the fuck's going on. Well, it's, yeah, actually, you know what that is? What the fuck are these vampires?
Speaker 1:The fuck that's why it'd be cool to watch that movie blind. It'd be kind of fun. What? That is a very good comparison, because the only real way to beat the fucking vampires in this movie is to wait for morning. Mm-hmm Because otherwise they were pretty fucking invincible.
Speaker 2:The steak does kill them. It kills them yeah.
Speaker 1:But how the fuck you got? Did you see how easily they fucking spawned? Yeah, fuck, you got to see how easily they fucking spawned? Yeah, and here's the thing. Though that was funny, I was like everybody that left came back as a fucking vampire. They were so outnumbered too. So I'm like, fuck, you're fighting your asses off for being outnumbered like motherfuckers. Oh, that's the one, the one thing I nitpicked about the movie how they managed to hold on.
Speaker 1:I thought, it was like five people in there. Next thing thing I know I'm seeing a group of like eight or ten. Very true, I noticed that too. I'm like where are all these people coming from? They didn't have this many alive, unless they were hiding somewhere. Very true.
Speaker 2:Not even a. I'm not going to knock it for it, but I noticed it.
Speaker 1:Aside from the fact they never ran out of boots. Where are all these people coming from? One additional guy outside of the main cast that I had seen in scenes before, but they didn't really show him when they were arguing, but they were in the circle when they were eating garlic In that circle.
Speaker 1:I mean there was one. There was one other guy that wasn't part of the main cast, so I saw, and he was one of the guys that off to the side died. But there was somebody that got jumped on the bar that I hadn't seen before. There was another one that that got eaten. That I'm like. No, these people weren't in the scene literally five seconds ago. I'm wondering if that's just something they forgot to cut, probably, or they took out people in scenes that they weren't supposed to. And then, yes, there were more people in the bar than we thought. But when they start, I was trying to pick it apart and just say, okay, one, two, three, four, five, but hold, five, hold on.
Speaker 1:There was definitely one where they kind of show where they're reeling garlic. I knew I caught that that wasn't, and we didn't even see where he joined them.
Speaker 1:My favorite character, unk Delta Slim, delta Slim yeah, I call him Unk. I don't know why the fuck I'm getting that from, because that's all fucking TikTok calls older people is a hunk. It's just his character. He's trusting, he teaches you shit, he doesn't really look down on you. Give him a thing of booze and he'll tell you a good story. Didn't think you needed to cut him out self-open with the bottle, though.
Speaker 2:Oh, they'd have came to you regardless, ah.
Speaker 1:That was a step in the wrong direction. But he wasn't going to be able to fight off that many. I'm surprised you didn't call him low. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. That smoke and stack was a very good parallel. That's a very good me and low parallel, if I have to make it.
Speaker 2:That was good, I liked that one. But, you still died? No, I didn't.
Speaker 1:I didn't die. Yeah, you did, you gave in to the demon.
Speaker 2:What do you mean?
Speaker 1:I came in here looking all fresh, with a chain and my little coogee sweater and my Stacks fucking brass knuckles. The legend of Stack grows Over eight years. Oh that was magnificent. That was brilliant by Coogler actually, because I sat there like Where'd that go? No, stack and Mary Haley Steinfeld were the fucking two of the main vampires besides Remick, and I'm like you didn't even see them. Die Post credit Okay.
Speaker 2:There they are.
Speaker 1:There they are, and as far as post credit scenes go, though, I do think that the one at the very end of him singing the song is probably going underappreciated. Michael B Jahn Smoke Mowing Down the Clan was pretty classic. I was waiting for it. I knew exactly that it was coming. Because he sent him away, because he ain't staying here for this. He probably he may have. That's my human analogy. I guess he may have died a little, started dying a little too quick from getting shot in the stomach Little quick, little.
Speaker 2:That was a good scene, though he was losing a lot of blood.
Speaker 1:That was a good scene, though.
Speaker 2:Oh, come on, I'll pay you the fact that he just took it and went was nice that adrenaline was keeping him up.
Speaker 1:I got shot, whatever. So when everybody was gone and dead, he slowed down and that's when it was gone. That's when it got him. I do want we've touched on it a little bit. I want to appreciate Jack O'Connell with Remick though, because that was a top-tier portrayal of a vampire to me. I'll talk about it more in my top ten, but I have portrayals of how I like to see vampires portrayed. I totally didn't even pull. He was Irish until he started speaking more.
Speaker 1:Then you're out there doing a jig. Yeah, the Irish jig on top of the blues was like it's an interesting choice, but I like it His name is O'Connell, he knows how to do it. Jack O'Connell, his name is O'Connell, he knows how to do the Irish jig. Them all the vampires out there again. I think that's what reviewers are talking about their favorite song. That was my favorite shit in the movie.
Speaker 1:I'm like hey, hey no wonder I'd be out there with them. Hey, it was the fucking chest tap. The music was all very catchy. I'm like I'm not really a blues guy personally.
Speaker 2:I'm just like eh.
Speaker 1:I think my favorite part of the movie was when they were mixing the cultures.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think, and they went through the ages.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know why they had to start off with the Prince lookalike thing, though they wanted the opposite ends connect and then you go in between. They wanted the opposite ends connect and then you go in between. But again though, the best thing about this to me is that he chuckled too hard. When the Girl in the bar was doing the the twerking, he chuckled too hard.
Speaker 2:What the?
Speaker 1:fuck, no, I just. That's why I like Ryan Coogler's stuff so much. I'm surprised it wasn't a Megan Thee Stallion freaking?
Speaker 2:cameo.
Speaker 1:I appreciate when you have a message and stuff to say in your film but you never come. I know what horror movie we forgot when we were talking about the horror movies the Hymn movie, the football movie.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, that one got me like.
Speaker 1:The Jordan Peele. I didn't put that one in the phone. We'll remember it, don't matter.
Speaker 2:I can't remember.
Speaker 1:It's Marlon Wayans.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Talking about it.
Speaker 2:That's the one we're missing.
Speaker 1:yes, the Kugler reminded me of Jordan Peele. For some reason it's like oh yeah, we had the Jordan Peele movie, marlon Wayans, the football one, because it's a cult slash serial killer, yeah. But I was not expecting that at all, by the way, for Marlon.
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:But judging by the trailer, it's going to be good. Just the way he's playing that character, that guy. Where was? Was I still talking? What? Were we talking about Vampires? We were talking about Jack O'Connell right Beforehand, yes, before we got into the Appreciating Jack O'Connell and the music. Oh yeah, we were talking about the music. But again, I like too. When he started to take more damage, he started becoming more grotesque. That's a very vampire thing because they're pretty in ship. But then they start becoming more. As you start damaging, they start saying fuck it, we're going to be all massive claws, the more demon-esque vampire side of it started to show.
Speaker 1:And his death too, though with the fire tornado. I liked when Preacher Boy started reciting that prayer and they all started doing it. I'm like, oh, they're all fucking doing the prayer. It's just showing that evil's a part of life. No matter how much you pray to God, evil will always be there. You just have to be able to battle it yourself. I got no issue doing that. I kill it.
Speaker 2:My philosophy.
Speaker 1:You got way too many lights out there to be fixing, I kill it. Well, I tell them every time there's a flickering light, dean you're not doing your job, you work there too, you know? Oh, monster, supernatural, he's talking about lights anywhere to be flickering?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm making wee energy chocolate. Oh god, that's not on us. We sent them the parts.
Speaker 1:They just got to fix it. That's not I mean the parts, they just gotta fix it. That's not how it works. I mean it was well shot and, just like I said, I could see why people would say you gotta see that on IMAX like the biggest screen you can. That probably would be something. That bar fight scene. Definitely I did, like the whole music parallels to when the dude's getting beat up. They're kicking him and you just got the stomping going.
Speaker 2:In the background oh.
Speaker 1:I like when Mrs Chow had enough and she's fucking. They're trying to no, no, no, come on in here, you fuckers.
Speaker 2:And you get the shot of.
Speaker 1:Remick, just oh, I heard that I'm not going to lie to you. I wouldn't stay in that fucking you. I wouldn't stay in that fucking barn. I wouldn't stay in there.
Speaker 2:I'd have said come on in eventually. Just all right, my time.
Speaker 1:Come on now. Come on, let's go.
Speaker 2:I'd have said it too eventually, would you have been her husband, though?
Speaker 1:Walk out, start the car, never come back.
Speaker 2:No, I'd know better than that.
Speaker 1:I don't know vampires out there. I ain't going out there. They gotta come in here. I'll fight. I'm not going out there, I'm outnumbered out there.
Speaker 2:Here I got space, I was wondering does that count with cars?
Speaker 1:Can I come in your car?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:No, I like that. He kept that, though, because that's another one that people kind of laugh at. What do you mean? They can't come in unless you invite them. That's still funny. You can have so much fun with that.
Speaker 2:That's a trope that hasn't been in a movie in a long ass time.
Speaker 1:And the garlic. People usually fuck the garlic because it's lame, but he's like keep the garlic, fuck it. He pretty much kept all the same tropes Garlic. Ah, they were making weapons. This should be funny. You could have garlic around your neck. I'm like see if I can find that Putting fucking wooden stakes on the front of shotguns Low-key. God, that's got to be the most pain in the ass way to kill someone. Guns don't work. You got to follow that bitch around, come here, come here, come here. They didn't even hammer that shit in there, they just went. They had a lot of convenience too, because Smoke was able to kill his woman. Oh shit, I can kill my woman quick. Go to the other side.
Speaker 2:They left him alone and shit while he had plenty of time, they all held back.
Speaker 1:They didn't think he was going to do it. Damn, he did it. He did meet his girl and child, though that's when he might go to the other side. I did kind of appreciate that little sub-story to his character. He lost a child and that's why he went away. Yeah, that's concerning, hmm, massive garlic heist in Spain. Uh-oh, uh-oh, what. Uh-oh. Somebody stole a thousand tons of garlic. What'd they prepare it for?
Speaker 2:Uh-oh, somebody stole a thousand tons of garlic. What they?
Speaker 1:prepare it for? Uh-oh, that's concerning I better get ready.
Speaker 2:It's pain.
Speaker 1:That's near Romania, it's in the ballpark, it's a few countries away, but it's in Europe. Oh shit, anything in Europe is an issue.
Speaker 2:It's the count.
Speaker 1:It's the count. He's coming back to suck your blood. The Count. At least it's not the Bounce on it. No, I don't need that one. I don't need Nosferatu.
Speaker 2:The vampire Nosferatu.
Speaker 1:You must Bounce on it. That whole movie's ruined because it's so fucking sexually heavy. There's Nosferatu and this one, and Sinners was too. But that's how he died. You just had to get that piece of ass. I don't know. That's Nosferatu's scene of fucking.
Speaker 2:Of her talking.
Speaker 1:Cousin slash. Nephew, I'm not sure which one you were gonna call it. I'm not gonna interrupt him. He's getting it. And then Lo like I don't care what he's getting. Ah, he's getting eaten. He got his neck bit Knock, knock. Who's there? Who's there? Hello, do you have a minute to talk about Dracula? No wait, dracula. Yes, you're vampires. Yes, we have pamphlets. Vampires have missionaries. Where else would you, where else would new vampires come from? I assumed you bite people. There are many harmful stereotypes. May we come in? I can't say go home, we're at your house, come in, please, come in, please. Oh, I'm fit. Hell, no Hell no Hold on hold on.
Speaker 1:He can't test if we're vampires. I'll tell you what. If we lived in a world of vampires, I would just a little cut. I'd make a little cut on me every once in a while.
Speaker 1:No, you walked right in. I didn't invite you in. Eh, blood circulates, regenerates in your body. If we lived in a world of vampires, I'd make a little cut. I'd fill up some couple bottles of blood, keep it in the fridge. I'd be ready when they come. Oh, there's my fucking vampire bag. Get out, go, take this. Get out, go, go away. You know how long it takes to replenish a pint of blood. They come in. Oh, we're in the house now we're gonna.
Speaker 1:You don't have to suck on me. You don't have to suck on me or go. You don't have to suck on me If it's a woman. I mean that could be arranged. If a woman vampire, you and Jess would sacrifice the shit out of you, jess dead. He was dead. He's dead in the first act of that movie. He dead. Be out there Like what the fuck Take me Take me out.
Speaker 2:That's what it would be, and you know.
Speaker 1:You know what's funny. Though there was good action there, at the end there Horror there were some funny moments too. I was like look at Ryan Coogler sprinkling in funny.
Speaker 2:It had everything Actually.
Speaker 1:I've kind of noticed that about his movies. He's able to bring real-life comedy to his movies. It's not just like forced comedy, it's something you expect out of whatever character it is to say. I think he's directed all the Creed movies now too.
Speaker 2:I sadly he did the first Creed. I don't know if he did any of those I watched.
Speaker 1:Creed I have not watched the other two. I think he's done all three. I don't think he has.
Speaker 2:I'm going to hold on.
Speaker 1:He's had those moments too.
Speaker 2:Hmm.
Speaker 1:I want to see, now I should watch Creed 1 and 2 or 2 and 3, though Creed 2 is good. Creed 3 is alright, is it? I mean it's alright, but type of alright, or what are we looking up? Director is Stephen Cable Jr, but Coogler was an executive writer. I was going to say I think Kugler had a hand in all of them, but he directed the first one. Yeah, I know that Creed II was oh, creed III was Michael B Jordan.
Speaker 2:Cable.
Speaker 1:Jr, when he was everything with that one. Yeah, he was the director, speaking of which I got to tear in Sylvester Stallone too, on this episode. What Mm-hmm. I'll get to that one when we get to other movies.
Speaker 2:Tear in the we're on the.
Speaker 1:Creed thing. You might as well say you're Well, we're not done. Are we done? Talking about sinners? I mean, I think we've covered every aspect of sinners. I mean did we talk about the post-credits scene we kind of did, where Mary and Stack are still alive because they were spared? I thought that was a pretty cool thing Spared is a loose term. With that they technically ran away. I know Stack got spared Smoke. Let him go. He was ready to.
Speaker 2:Mary ran.
Speaker 1:Stack got spared. Leave it to the white woman to run. Bye, run faster than you, man.
Speaker 2:Run, I'm out, bye.
Speaker 1:But uh, people would call that sequel-based. I'm like how are you gonna? I mean sure, but Vampire in Brooklyn. No, it'll just be stack, oh my God. But okay, I mean it's. I don't. I tried to refrain from doing the 10 out of 10, but to me it was. I enjoyed. People said it was slow and I enjoyed the shit with so-called slow, so shit. It didn't feel like a slow burn in the beginning to me. It didn't to me because I was so invested I literally had to look at my phone.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're an hour in A slow burn to me is I'm not invested A two hour 70 minute movie A slow burn is something I'm not invested in, but I was still invested in the. How much shorter is that than Nosferatu? There were times I wasn't even invested in Nosferatu. I won't lie Like 45 minutes or an hour. No, what? What? Nosferatu is shorter what?
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:It says Nosferatu 2024 is 2 hours and 12 minutes. Oh, it's shorter by 5 minutes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought it was longer.
Speaker 1:I know that's how much it hurts. Okay, so Nosferatu is a slow burn. This was not no when you compare those two movies. No, I don't. Slow burn to me is you don't give a shit about the shit that's going on. Really no, but you had to establish the characters for the whole vampire stuff to mean something and people are kind of I mean, the back half of the movie was more so to vampires. People were like the vampires are only like 10, 20 minutes. I'm like that's a lie because you're just counting. If you're just counting the final fight, sure, but they were sprinkled in.
Speaker 1:We didn't meet a vampire until about an hour into the movie. If you don't count Remick running away from the Indians, I think that's almost an hour.
Speaker 2:That's an hour into the movie. That was still an hour in.
Speaker 1:That's when I checked my phone, because, as far as my understanding, they weren't supposed to show up until halfway through the movie, which they kind of did.
Speaker 1:They sprinkled or stitched Technically the first time we meet a KKK member, so you had an hour of character development and interaction, of giving you your cast, and then you had the vampire jump again. It's like advance the plot, advance the plot. That's my only minor little nitpick and it don't affect my 10 out of 10. I would have liked to have seen the Indians again. No, but they went home. It was nighttime, they dipped off.
Speaker 2:We gotta get back to our teepees.
Speaker 1:He's got too many powers at night. We can fuck him with them during the day, because he's weak man. They was on his ass too. They had the horses, the guns, they had the truck. They on his ass. It's like fuck. Well, he was starting to burn the fuck up. I don't know if it was from the sun or they were throwing shit on him. No, that was the sun. Probably the sun it was all on his back, or the sun was until he got on the porch. Then she goes in there.
Speaker 2:Makes me wonder where he was coming from her husband's dead.
Speaker 1:He's all better now.
Speaker 2:He'll wake up in a bit he's all.
Speaker 1:Why the hell doesn't want me a story with him. He's all better. Now what like a prequel, spinoff movie and just his van remick. He's been around a long time. He said it. Yeah, he said something about his people being shown you know the light by the. You know christians and shit. So I don't know where the fuck he came from.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Like if he was originally from Ireland or something and came to.
Speaker 2:America, every.
Speaker 1:I really want to ask him a question. I really do Me Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Me.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I don't know what popped into your head to ask. I don't know what it is, though I want him to make a choice, and it's going to hurt him. I want him to make a choice, and it's going to hurt him. You want me to make a choice? Oh no, I won't go on with the episode until you do it. Oh no. Okay, now you've got to ask him, because you've got us both curious.
Speaker 1:So, haley, Steinfeld or 1996, salma Hayek? What the fuck are you talking about? He'll take present day, salma Hayek. I know that is close. With all due love and respect to Haley Steinfeld that. From Dusk Till.
Speaker 2:Dawn.
Speaker 1:From Dusk Till Dawn had me.
Speaker 2:My goddess Salma Hayek, my goddess.
Speaker 1:And she ages like fine wine, fine wine. The only thing that fucks with me is Salma Hayek fucking, and she ages like fine wine, fine wine. The only thing that fucks with me is Salma Hayek is fucking. What the fuck's the movie? Fuck you, sacha Baron Cohen, fuck you, bruno, where he's getting waxed and he's like oh, this is nothing. My other guy used to wax Salma Hayek and you could make a whole mattress from what you. I'm like oh, fuck off, sasha, fuck that. So you remember that one line.
Speaker 1:It's like oh, God she's got to have a fucking jungle down there, I don't know, I'm just going off of Sasha Bercow and Sam. I'm like, see, now I'm just thinking of fucking Adam Sandler. Thanks, yeah, he'd trim it, don't mess with the Zohan.
Speaker 1:I can't tell if he was starting to choke on it yes, because whenever you say that movie the lines I make schizze with your mom one more time. Then we go that and fizzy bubbly, you want some hummus? No, I don't want no fucking hummus. One thing I don't understand they eat no Hummus is actually pretty good, ew, I'm having a fizzy bubbly right now. No, that's the fizzy bubbler. That's one of the dumbass movies that shouldn't be good, but to me it's just fucking great. He's got the bubbler. That's the fizzy.
Speaker 1:That's the residue honestly, palestinians and his oh my God, how fucking relevant Zohan is now. Uh-huh, palestinians and Israelis haven't made the sound in centuries. Fuck that movie so relevant. Now I'm done, Seeing, as we haven't done an episode a month. We were going to talk about other movies that we've watched recently.
Speaker 2:Are we still going? We're still going.
Speaker 1:We better still be going, or I'm going to be pissed. We better still be going. Are we still recording? Yes, okay, we're good. I'm going to be pissed, we better still be going. Are we still recording? Yes, okay, we're good. I was nervous for a second. We've lost episodes before people, so we've got to be technically only lost on the mic. Oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Or if we went over three hours. So what was other movies? Oh yeah, so we were supposed to do an episode for Novocaine, so we don't have any of our records of Novocaine on there. Yep, we have not talked about Novocaine on an episode we didn't know what the fuck we were gonna do with.
Speaker 1:Novocaine I mean it was just gonna be a bullshit movie talk. Ah, novocaine was just a fun movie. Sinners may be number one, now it's number two. Novocaine's number two, oh, novocaine's be two. The bar is low. Novocaine is currently number one until I put Sinners on it.
Speaker 2:I mean technically, what the?
Speaker 1:hell have we watched this year? I can't even read. I have the list Go over it. Denethrius is my number three.
Speaker 2:Denethrius two.
Speaker 1:That's hanging on. Wow, it's number three.
Speaker 2:That is hanging on.
Speaker 1:That is just. Wolfman is at the bottom.
Speaker 2:Flight Risk.
Speaker 1:Flight Risk is the bottom, never will Dead. Companions, that's upper. Love Hurts, that's more in the middle. Captain America 4. The Monkey I had Last Breath on there, which is the underwater saving movie oh shit, the movie has my fear, oh water. Mickey 17, which is the underwater saving movie oh shit, the movie has my fear, ah water. Mickey 17, which is lower because it did not do what I wanted it to do. And then Novocaine, and then we got the bunch of list movies that have come out that I was going to talk about.
Speaker 1:Right now my goats are Sinner's Companion, novocaine. Everything else was like, I mean well out of remember. I only have three, four I have seven currently, but, like I said once, I watch more.
Speaker 2:I'm at 16.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Uh, he's fucking doubled ours. I What'd I do? I get up. I get closer to his when I start watching he gets up. Yep, we already knew that. Yep, Uh, so Neville Neville's fun and good. I'm officially. You already knew that. Yep, so Neville Keen was fun and good. I'm officially thanks to this movie calling that's how he's gonna die. Oh God, Ah, I'm dead. Black Bag is the one you guys want to talk about. It is definitely an old school spy movie.
Speaker 1:It doesn't have action in it, Dean, so I don't know how you're gonna.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:It doesn't it really doesn't Shoot something. Wait, to be fair, the thing that might distract you enough is Cate Blanchett. Cate Blanchett.
Speaker 2:That might be enough.
Speaker 1:Is it kind of like oh fuck, what is it?
Speaker 2:It has two. You like Fassbender too. What is?
Speaker 1:that movie that has the end scene where the guy talks to a woman by the plane. It's real old. It was made in like the 40s. Nope the fuck. Not a chance, grandpa, you know what that movie is. It's referenced all the fucking time North by Northwest. No God, I'm just thinking of the whole ass movie Casablanca.
Speaker 2:Casablanca.
Speaker 1:It does have those kinds of vibes. I'm the one that says Casablanca, you would have been the guy. Thank you, casablanca, you would have been the guy.
Speaker 2:Thank you, casablanca. Yes, jj would have too.
Speaker 1:JJ would have, too, the one scene that's referenced all the time, where they're by the plane.
Speaker 2:Sorry, elsa, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Get the fuck out of my head, casablanca. I triggered his movie brain. Yes, I did no, because JJ would be doing the same shit, because he's like I've seen that too many fucking. I did not. I chose not to go see Snow White. No surprise, of course not who wants to watch that? Poopoo caca Death of the Unicorn is fun. You were saving that for later. Poopoo caca Death of a Unicorn was fun. I'm surprised I didn't watch that. My them being pretty throughout the movie Would have helped, because there's One scene where it's incredibly dark and it's very hard to follow. I'm sorry there's no lights in the scene. I'd be dead if I seen a fucking. So their entire thing is they're actually monsters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they look ugly.
Speaker 1:That fits with mythology. Yeah, it's true, but I would have found it more funny if there's a nice white unicorn with rainbows, just stabbing the shit out of. They're monsters that respect honesty. Nice white unicorn with rainbows Just stabbing the shit out of Did. You want it to have a cutie mark too? Yeah right, that'd be funny as shit. They're evil monsters that respect.
Speaker 1:That actually would have been pretty funny. Hey, a unicorn. I respect Stab stab. What word was that? Not lying? Huh, yep, telling people how it is, which is very much what Jenna Ortega does. They respect her character because she doesn't hold things in. She tells you how it is, whatever.
Speaker 1:I guess we're dying and you're not Dying, or not? Did you hear what he said about the unicorns? They're not going to kill you and you guys will eventually get a mission about that in D&D at some point. Oh, son of a bitch, I keep getting unicorn meanings. I gotta use them eventually. Unicorn, I'll be getting another one next Friday or next Saturday. Now you have a goblin horde Not exactly a horde, but you got real. Now the movie that I'm gonna get into, sylvester Stallone about A Working man oh boy, that Wait, wasn't that a?
Speaker 1:It was written and produced by Stallone.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:No surprise, very little surprise it's directed by David Ayer. David Ayer does some good stuff. Yeah, this movie wasn't Working man Low key. I'm not surprised. I watched my reviewer watch it. He's like if you're going for a low-hanging fruit, because I kind of felt like it was a copy-paste it's a basic action movie.
Speaker 2:With bad writing, with the story and everything With very bad writing.
Speaker 1:This action movie With bad writing, very bad writing. This movie is all over the place. I felt like watching that. While watching that trailer, I felt like things were happening just because.
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:I'll let They've retconned their own movie. In the movie oh boy, he sets up the entire first movie. In the movie oh boy, he sets up the entire first part of the episode or the movie where he's starting to look for the girl.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh Do I want to say that point first.
Speaker 1:Yes, I do. At the point where he starts to look for the girl. It's been three days, the Friday night the girl disappears. He comes to work on Monday and finds out the girl. It's been three days From the Friday night. The girl disappears. He comes to work on Monday and finds out the girl has been kidnapped. Saturday, sunday, monday yeah, he takes another two and a half days before he even starts to look for her. She'd be dead. Where'd she go? This movie is that paced out where it's like this just keeps going. Another day, another day. You didn't find her for like almost two weeks. It feels like in the movie she was still alive. Who the fuck was she? Kidnapped by idiots, which is actually true, because they were keeping her alive to sell her to someone.
Speaker 2:So to be fair, but she should be long gone from the city.
Speaker 1:How the fuck did the transaction not even fucking take place? Yeah, that's part of the point there. Then you get into.
Speaker 2:He starts going on one trail. Why am I?
Speaker 1:talking like I'm a criminal mastermind. You'd be a better criminal mastermind than anybody in this org. So then you get through the next part of the movie and then he goes to the bartender that is in on the entire kidnapping and he deals with him. Then the next hour of the movie goes by and it's like, oh, now I'm going to choose to look at the bartender's phone An hour later into the movie and that gives him the next step. With the movie Was there like a fighting or something going on?
Speaker 1:Or he totally fucking forgot about the phone. No, he was just following one plot point to the end. That plot point reached a dead end and he didn't get enough information. Now I'm going to move on to the next plot point. You know, sadly that makes sense to me. It's like alright, I'm going to follow this to the end and then I'm going to do that's very video game-esque me, but when you're in military intelligence kind of like he is you take every plot point and see if it connects at any point Convergence yes, and he didn't do that.
Speaker 1:That's just video game-y when I find a plot point. I want to finish that because I don't want something else to miss. Then you want to say the budget was incredibly low at some point because all of a sudden there's just a moon backdrop in the background and the moon's as tall as the girl. Like, the moon's never that fucking close, no matter what horizon you're standing on. I didn't expect Matt to tear that one apart. Well, again, the reviews I've watched are bad and the coup d'etat that sold this as whoever decided to do this. So the final scene takes place with him raiding where the girl is, in a house, in a farmhouse. Raiding a house, he does it with a fucking rifle. Who, what military officer, is going to raid an entire house with armed people in it with a rifle?
Speaker 2:You're saying rifle, hunting rifle, an M14.
Speaker 1:So it's an assault rifle, but it's not like the M15 assault rifle, it's an actual rifle.
Speaker 2:Military rifle Single shot fucking.
Speaker 1:Yes, it has a magazine, so it's like semi-auto, but it's still it's an M14. So he's not an assault rifle like normal. Yeah, so not like an AK or an AR.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 1:He had all those at his offer available. By the way, he chose the M14. I need this. Think of your simple single shot rifles, where you're just you have to pull the trigger and go Pull the trigger. Empty the chamber. Pull the trigger, empty the chamber Like my god, oh my god. M14 Modern. You'd recognize the gun. When you say rifle, that's usually what I think of. You're not raiding a house with that. You're not the first gun in the door.
Speaker 2:You can't turn corners and shit, you're not raiding a house with that. Yeah, you're not the first gun in the door.
Speaker 1:You can't turn corners and shit. You're not the first gun into any house with that weapon. No, that's more of an outside thing. Yes, you can be the back guy at the room and following in and getting. Now, personally, if you're raiding a house, you're raiding that bitch with like an AR or an assault rifle, but then when you get inside, I'm switching to like a shotgun or something.
Speaker 1:Shotgun or the interior weapon to me, but it was Jason Statham. He got into a knife fight. You remember Soulcom? What the fuck was that? My favorite gun in that one? P90? I think so. I never played Soulcom I never played Soulcom with you, so I'm going to allow you to ask me that.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I played in Austin.
Speaker 1:I might not have even been aware I was playing with you. To be honest, you didn't know who I was. Austin probably said this is my brother and then just played Okay, I'm like. And then I just saw the Amateur, which was compared to the Working man, had a better plot. The Amateur was the same type of movie, wasn't it? Freddie Mercury was in that Less because Freddie Mercury thanks for that, fuck you. Rami Malek very much plays the nerdy character really well. He basically took his character from Mr Robot or whatever. He basically took that character and put him in this movie.
Speaker 2:That's not bad. A lot of people really like that.
Speaker 1:He's a CIA techie. That's what his character is no, he's good. He played well. He was good enough to be a Bond villain, a lower tier Bond? No, he was okay, wasn't he the last Bond villain?
Speaker 2:Yeah, in no.
Speaker 1:Time to Die. He was arguably two. Yeah, Low key. Yeah, oh, no. Three, he's in contention for two. It's how you feel. Are you talking about Craig's movie? Just Craig's movie? Oh well, Javier Berdoux Silva's one. Well then you're arguing. Rami Malek and Christoph Waltz. See, it's what. I might have leaned him because I didn't like Spectre that much. That kind of almost put me to sleep. I didn't like Spectre that much. He's the only one that actually appears in two movies. True, True, True.
Speaker 2:What about?
Speaker 1:fucking dude Lachif. He's only in one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true, I'm going through my list of movies on Voodoo.
Speaker 1:He's also not really the main villain in one. I like Mads Mikkelsen. I got some Mads Mikkelsen vibes, well, thanks to. Bond. That's the only reason I know the guy. You ain't gonna know him from Doctor Strange, because that was one of his. Marvel and their villains. Kill them all off. Hey, now they're killing off the heroes too. There's your Daredevil born again thing. Ah.
Speaker 2:Well since we're there.
Speaker 1:You want to do that Might as well, because that's the one you want to rip apart for us. I'm not ripping it apart. I'm still giving it a 5 or a 6. I'm not giving it the 9 out of 10.
Speaker 2:A 5 or a 7?
Speaker 1:Holy shit, I thought 7. I don't think it's anything special. Oh oh, I don't think it's anything special. Oh boy, look at even Jay.
Speaker 2:I think it's standard.
Speaker 1:Even Jay is like damn.
Speaker 2:I call for a seven, the only thing that drops it down that low is that they use more money.
Speaker 1:I thought you were on eight or you say you're a seven or eight in that range. Seven, eight-ish, but a solid seven. Damn, I am the highest on it. Holy fuck. I don't know many people giving it a 9, dean. I haven't heard many 9s. I've heard people in his range Almost every review.
Speaker 1:The only reason I don't give it higher than that is because it didn't utilize everything at its possible reach. Do you guys not realize? I see blood and carnage? Oh shit, bro. You were sending me messages about you ripping your shirt off. That shit gets me going, man, I love some bloody action. Yeah, unfortunately, I know what your distraction is and the plot isn't as good as you think it needed to be to hold up to what I want it to be. I'm surprised you didn't pause the screen and send me a picture of Daredevil's ass hey, naked. I feel weird now because I thought it was good. You're not weird, it's your opinion. Yeah, I'm just Still with you on that that he ripped it apart. That much. Here's the thing, though. You said they could have utilized more. I'm such a big comic guy and I'm just trying to find what I look for in shit. Villain died off too early.
Speaker 1:I didn't mind the way they worked him into the story with his love interest.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That was fine. No powers when you're already introducing fucking mutants. Slash humans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they didn't get.
Speaker 1:No, I told you, muse is one of my issues with the show, because I loved him and wanted more of him but they killed him. And then we have the. But the problem is that Muse was never going to be the big villain of the show, because you had Kingpin.
Speaker 1:I don't want Kingpin anymore. I know that's kind of the other thing. I don't mind him being in the show, but if you're going to give him that much attention, give him his own show. He's been the villain of every fucking year this is agreement though he's been the villain of every fucking Daredevil thing ever Season one, two, three, no, kingpin, the original movie. I'm so sick of Kingpin. What Did you say? The Daredevil movie, the original movie?
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, no no, he's good, he's up there.
Speaker 1:But no, I get what you're saying. Oh, another thing, though he's less of the villain in season two, Yep. Another thing I actually didn't like, though, because my opinion changed a bit because of watching reviews. A lot of my TikTok people really liked it. I hated Matt's girlfriend in this. I hated her. I'm like go away.
Speaker 2:Go Psyche, Go away. I don't like you.
Speaker 1:It was a forced relationship Her I didn't like. That's my part number two. That's literally the second line I don't like her, and you're going to hate me for saying this. I also didn't like the Batman parallels. Huh, batman 89, you remember the therapist's girlfriend?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We all wear a mask.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we all wear a mask.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you not remember that line being said by her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember Matt and.
Speaker 1:Batman are not the same. I like the parallels of him wanting to be more violent and holding himself back, though yes, no, I love that bit.
Speaker 1:That's a daredevil thing. Punisher, do it, do it, do it. No, no, he's not worth it. The only gripe I have? I only have one gripe with Matt Murdock. For this entire season I only have one gripe with him. So you're saying it's not Daredevil? Necessarily no. Now that we've got out of the way our scores and how we sort of feel, let the way our scores and how we sort of feel, let him go over his fucking points, then we can debate. I can fairly say I mean factoring in my hatred for the last episode, fucking Uh-oh Message. Usually that's me Oddly Factoring in my um Because that's bias. No, not bias my hatred for because I did not like his psychiatrist woman at all. No, I did not. I did not like the fact that I can, I can fairly worker said the wrong person's name.
Speaker 1:He said ryan reynolds star wars. I'm like huh, I think he meant Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 2:Oh, I've seen that being teased and I was wondering what the hell?
Speaker 1:Just like I also seen a five-minute preview to the Mandalorian movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:How the hell are we going to have Jabba the Hutt I'm sorry, a Hutt fighting in an arena?
Speaker 2:Oh no, they literally do.
Speaker 1:They have this worm fucking thing going to have Jabba the Hutt.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, A Hutt fighting in an arena no they literally do.
Speaker 1:They have this worm fucking thing fighting, looking beefy as fuck in an arena, alright, Voiced by Jeremy Allen. White Alright, but no, we're on Daredevil yeah please Give us your points. I don't want to fucking talk about Star Wars.
Speaker 2:Kill him what I still think he's talking about the wrong person.
Speaker 1:Kill me yeah because we're talking about Star Wars, oh Christ, so I brought this one up before. I still have issues with that opening bar scene in episode one the fight yeah. The silent fucking no, it looked fake Because if they put the smoke, it looked like for some reason it was just giving me like. It doesn't look like everybody was in the scene. It looked like the scene was fake to me.
Speaker 1:Inside the bar and once they swing in through the window, the fight starts going on. It's like the smoke comes out and then it looks like they're covering things up people running around them. It looks like everything's fake around them it just didn't play off well. Choreography the choreography was fine. He told me that he didn't have much issues with the choreography. The entire opening bar fight scene was throwing me off. It didn't feel like Daredevil until they started chasing him.
Speaker 2:I got comedy out of that it was that up the stairs fight?
Speaker 1:That felt like old school Daredevil. Not necessarily fighting him in the hallway but chasing him up. That looked more like natural. For whatever reason, Get back here, motherfucker. To capitalize on the girlfriend part.
Speaker 2:Yes, I hated her. I ain't gonna.
Speaker 1:I don't necessarily care about any of the new side characters. I can agree a little bit.
Speaker 2:I can.
Speaker 1:You were using these to replace the characters that already did, and it's like I don't care about them as much. I cannot disagree with you on that one at all.
Speaker 2:I can't because I didn't get it. I don't know if you're like one of the ones you were talking about.
Speaker 1:Your new foggy was the girl, but you barely got any of her. The cop friend replaces the cop friend from the original shows, but you don't get a lot of him either. It's like Matt, don't do this, don't do this, that was actually the more I was looking online. That was a lot of people's gripes. Why did you replace him? He was actually a good guy, yeah.
Speaker 2:Why are we?
Speaker 1:getting this new one. Oh yeah, why are we getting this new CI? Mm-hmm yeah, new cop friend didn't do nearly as much. New lawyer doesn't even replace Foggy. New girlfriend feels like she just was kind of thrown in to be the love interest. I was happy. But, helping him grieve a little bit. That was your narrative 1989. Yeah, I was happy, though Karen's back, karen, karen and all outside of Vanessa, even including Vanessa for Kingpin. Kingpin's crew is our all Come on we had to do it, vanessa.
Speaker 1:But all of his crew feel like yes-men, or struggling people or just kind of struggling to be around him.
Speaker 2:All of his entire campaign crew.
Speaker 1:The only one I liked was Buck. Thank you, buck, no problem.
Speaker 2:I like.
Speaker 1:Buck and he's purely being used as device for the fucking person investigating him. I like Buck, the news reporter. Thanks, buck. I care more about her than anybody else, because she has you care about Bebe right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The news reporter. I'm only invested in her because she's the niece or?
Speaker 2:of yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm more invested into her. We actually introduced into the fact that this universe is a part of MCU because of the Incredible Hulk storyline that was hanging on his wall. Yes, I do remember that. Next couple points are mostly from the finale. I'm curious about this because the finale I was like I'm not saying it's not even. It's still probably the best episode out of the nine. It still probably is, and that's the very ending of who's Sitting in those Chairs. That will pay off in a second season, I think. I think they got a different army plan.
Speaker 1:Sure, we're hoping for better. We're hoping. Don't give me hope, matt. I wanted Jessica Jones.
Speaker 2:I know what we want. I want it too.
Speaker 1:We can't give you hope. You're the biggest Daredevil fan and you know who I really wanted, but he's in Sony's basement. I'll get to him eventually here too. So the concept of how Kingpin got out of prison I made that joke. He's in Zendaya's pants, that too. So the concept of Kingpin getting out of prison was because the FBI was corrupt. He's the reason the FBI was corrupt. They didn't investigate any of the FBI corruption to lead it to him. So we have one plot hole there. It's the same way that Vanessa used to get.
Speaker 2:Bullseye out.
Speaker 1:They even showed you the full article A drugged up Bullseye out. They even showed you the full article A drugged up Bullseye, vanessa, vanessa, vanessa. The need for an entire city blackout felt a little bit odd because he was basically just creating chaos at that point. That is one thing where I'm like, where the fuck's everybody I'm going to save New York by giving it to this city Go. Task Force where I'm like, where the fuck's everybody.
Speaker 2:What the fuck are the other?
Speaker 1:heroes doing I'm going to save New York. I love this city. Go task force. Go Go anti-vigilante task force. The biggest plot point that can blow up in their face is him declaring martial law. You know what's pissed me off. Though your cop never died, he'll get his. He had his time coming. Season two is coming. Get his. He has his time coming. Season 2 is coming. Or a Punisher special, it's coming, that's true.
Speaker 2:It's coming, even the Punisher, the cop that was sitting there mocking talking.
Speaker 1:He was a fan of Frank when they captured him. That's the one I want dead the most. I hate him. I want him dead Real brutally. So declaring martial law is a multi-pronged problem and could easily get him fired Just by declaring it, because it shows like you can't protect your city. And declaring it without any approval of a governor is also a problem. Yeah, so Because he's just the mayor. Yeah, oh, you're going really logistical, real world-ish, I get it.
Speaker 2:I don't have a problem with that, I get it.
Speaker 1:I get it, but I'm also like they live in a fucking comic book I get it, he shut down an entire city with no approval.
Speaker 1:He shut down the island, pretty much. He shut down Manhattan. And we don't even have a context of when this is taking place, like if this is taking place during Captain America and there's no president currently or whatever. They don't even tell you when it is, but there's still a VP that would have to go through all this too. And with as many superheroes in New York, yeah, it's like martial law can pay off temporarily. Ah, we have the boroughs of New York. Each borough has its own Like. For all we know, they were doing shit. Spider-man was stuck in Queens. So what was Frank's plan? Frank Castle's plan?
Speaker 1:When he marched into their HQ. Yes, that was legendary, though there was no plan. That's what I feel like. You have all this equipment in your thing and you're going to go in with a shotgun and a hatchet. He had that tomahawk Fuck.
Speaker 2:That's all he wanted.
Speaker 1:I know he was trying to show them. You want me? Here I am, I'm going to kill all y'all before you take me. Ha, tomahawk, tomahawk, you want to see me in action? Here I am. I was up. I was up, I helped you kill Frank. You motherfuckers. Hey, he got out though he got out, though he out there. So I just felt the entire season felt more like just Disney trying to repurpose its own shit, because technically they already did the Born Again storyline for season three. That was kind of where they were going.
Speaker 1:I get it, but I think they used the name Born Again, kind of like here's Daredevil, again he's back. They were using one of his plot points. It's the same way with Secret Invasion they were using Secret Invasion for the name more than they actually succeeded in the story. Now I think season two. I think season two has wicked potential, though I won't lie, depending on if they decide to bring the Defenders in, which will be a. I'll have a nerdgasm. You did have three less episodes for a season, because every other Daredevil season is 12. Season two is coming quick, though it's mid-next year.
Speaker 2:It's a quick turnaround.
Speaker 1:They could have had three more episodes.
Speaker 2:It may have helped your side characters a lot.
Speaker 1:Maybe develop a fucking white tiger more. I didn't like that. Oh, they just killed. He died of cancer, though the actor died, so they had to do something. That was a gripe my co-worker was bringing up it's like technically it was a gripe until I learned about the actor, About him dying. That actor died of cancer. Oh yeah, that's why that actor died Then. I was fine with it.
Speaker 2:I was like, okay, I understand, I wasn't thinking about it.
Speaker 1:You had to Chadwick him. Yeah, kinda, I guess that does make sense. I wasn't thinking about that. I didn't remember about that one. Okay, but how they killed him off was bad. Yes, yeah, it was a little ethical Because technically he does have a spider sense. Yeah, one of his superpowers is he does have a spider sense. And he was wearing the amulet the entire time, all he was doing was putting on his mask. Yeah, I can understand that Well. Actually, when they listed his powers in the court scene, that wasn't one of them.
Speaker 1:I know but that's the comic book variant. Also, netflix probably would have spent the entire season based off of Foggy's death. Meanwhile, it was basically Foggy's death, six episodes in between dealing with Foggy's death. That would have been the theme of that season is Foggy's death. Yeah, that would have been. The theme of that season is Foggy's death. But we didn't get dealing with Foggy's death until the very last episode. Pretty much Hector Ayala's niece was there, so there's potential for her to be new White.
Speaker 2:Diner.
Speaker 1:I know, it's just not who you want it to be. You know what, thank you. She didn't show up at all, did she All these fucking rumors? Stop dick-teasing me, you internet fuckers.
Speaker 2:Who got?
Speaker 1:your dick wet in Sinners. You leave me alone. I paid for it. I paid for it, didn't I? Yeah, but we had to sit next to you, oh.
Speaker 2:I didn't die, though I didn't die, though I'm still alive.
Speaker 1:You know, the sad part about that is we go to movies with him like this and we always end up sandwiching him in. I'm the meat. I didn't sit in the love seat with him the last few times. Huh, that's not our fault, how they're arranged. Okay, you can choose to be in the open seat, not the seat next to him. I sat down first. It's not my fault, that's your fault. You walked in first. He dropped his cheese curds coming back in. That pissed me off. I lost quite a few cheese curds.
Speaker 1:I lost quite a. You can definitely tell that they shot the entire season with the point of not having Foggy and Karen Because they were barely in it.
Speaker 2:They're going to bring Foggy back in season 2.
Speaker 1:I almost feel like that last episode. They were like you know what, let's bring her back. I feel like that last episode they were like you know what, let's bring her back. Let's bring her back. The reason for Frank. Actually, she called in, she called.
Speaker 2:Frank, she's the one that called Frank.
Speaker 1:But all of those scenes could be shot after. It's like, oh, we need to bring these characters in because we need some. Here's one thing I'll say for me, though, and I don't disagree with any of your points, and she's back. As for me, though, and I don't disagree with any of your points. I knew I probably wouldn't disagree with any of your points. It just matters how much shit matters to each individual person.
Speaker 1:I will say one thing for me, with a lot of shows, I know this for a fact, which is why I probably didn't some of that stuff, like you said, with the side characters low key, a lot of the shows I watch, I'm so laser focused in on the main Matt's story and Daredevil's story, or whoever the main title character is. Sometimes, what the side characters are doing don't necessarily matter to me. If that makes sense, we're good. Oh, I'm like shit. Okay, I thought we lost shit. I was about to be like what the fuck? No, I was just wondering where we were at. Oh, but does that make sense to you? I'm so laser-focused in on what Daredevil is doing.
Speaker 1:I know how laser-focused you are, but then you take your fucking shirt off and start punching the air, Because I don't really care. Now, if the sidecast stands out, I'm all for it, but I'm like they're not really standing out. So I'm agreeing with Matt in a way, but like, okay, I'm just going to focus on Daredevil then In a way. The final point was do you think the new Spider-Man movie is even going to touch on closing of New York? I want it to it better. I don't have any faith that they will. Actually, they have the easiest fucking time. You know they're villain, right, it's going to be Mr.
Speaker 1:Negative Not confirmed, but I heard that's where they were leaning. Now imagine the chaos going on in that movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we don't know where the movie is going to take place in time. I'm just saying, with as much chaos that was caused during that blackout and Mr Negative, taking advantage of that, turning people negative not just because it's New York, and of taking advantage of that, you know, turning people negative and you know, not just because it's New York, and, oh, the power's out, I'm gonna fucking rob a store. I just don't. Hey, you know what? The most, one of the most, one of the most fucked up things in Board. Again, I was like, oh my God, when that one kid was looting something and he just popped his ass no, that's a vigilante, pulls his hat down over his head. Everybody wanted him to wear a Spider-Man hat. They're like that should have been the one thing they did and Spider-Man was referenced. Spider-man was referenced he's active Because Kingpin said people wearing a spider symbol. He was referenced.
Speaker 2:So he's active.
Speaker 1:So those are my main points, but I also find myself downgrading series or movies. When a thing doesn't feel final, oh, because you know it's getting a second season.
Speaker 2:It's not because.
Speaker 1:You know they left us on one of the biggest cliffhangers ever. Yeah where it doesn't feel like. It's like you kind of, why aren't we getting the whole story? Yeah, you couldn't. You cut it off three episodes short compared to every other Daredevil season, and then you didn't really finalize your thoughts. Kind of it's like when a two and a half hour movie can leave you off on a cliffhanger. Two reasons they did that. One I didn't know until Dean told me we are getting a sort of Punisher spinoff, a one episode tie-in A special.
Speaker 1:So it's going to be something like Werewolf by Night, where it's probably going to be an hour or so, hour and a half or so.
Speaker 1:You're popular today. Just my co-worker that's going to tie in to season two of Daredevil and probably set things up for us. I, just like I said, I just find myself downgrading things a little bit even more. If it doesn't feel like you finished your original plot, I understand it. It makes a lot of sense that you feel that way. It did piss me off. It's like you're fucking kidding me and I have no clue how long we have to wait either. That's the other thing Mid-26.
Speaker 2:They basically shot all these back-to-back.
Speaker 1:Mid-next year.
Speaker 2:But they shot it back-to-back and that doesn't help their case. What do?
Speaker 1:you mean, oh, mid-next year, that's not that bad. They shot a lot of this shit already. Because it's fucking spoiled that Daredevil's getting the black suit yeah, because people seen the fucking Shot of it and I'm like, oh fuck, which? There are two. This is a theory I had. I've been seeing it from People on TikTok and stuff that discuss the season. There's two directions. I think season two could go here. I will full-on be disappointed and very mad at the show if they don't do either one of these. He talked about his army. They need that army. They had at the end there In the bar. Won't do it. That was poopoo caca, the uncorrupted cops. They got erupts. What at the end there In the bar Won't do it? That was poopoo caca, the uncorrupted cops.
Speaker 2:The two that were in there.
Speaker 1:You had one ex-cop that's his investigator now and one current cop plus a couple officers that we saw. What the fuck are they going to do? Was the lawyer friend in there? I can't remember. I didn't think so. No, she was looking at the deed thing. She's going to operate it more through the law than he is. But either you bring the defenders back, you bring Jessica Jones back. You bring and I want her back so bad. I love Kristen. Ritter, I just want her and Luke in more scenes.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I want them banging. That's what I want, but.
Speaker 2:I want Luke Cage back.
Speaker 1:I like my cult there as Luke Cage I really did. The only one we don't like is Iron Fist.
Speaker 2:Bring him back. He wants a redemption.
Speaker 1:Get him Well, give him a chance. Fucking, bring him back. It's not that I didn't like the actor. I didn't like the direction that his story went. I didn't like that he wasn't committed to the action sequence. That was part of the thing that hurt him. He wasn't into the choreography. Another New York hero. That's kind of weird considering the show he came from. He didn't do a lot, even in that show.
Speaker 1:It's Game of Thrones right, yeah, but he didn't do a lot of actual fighting in the movie. Well then he wrote a whole. He jousted. That shows, how much I fucking know though, because I never watched the fucking show so I wouldn't know he was there to be basically borderline love interest. Another New York street hero is Moon Knight. I don't know if Moon Knight fits in there, that good, but that's another New York street hero.
Speaker 1:No we just got the taxi driver and, as far as I know, he's still in Europe. You have a Chang Chi tie-in too, technically by any depth.
Speaker 1:And the elephant in the room. People myself she's hanging out with Wong, myself included Maybe need to give up hope. Everyone wants a Spider-Man cameo in season two. Marvel has to go beg Sony for that. I'm right behind you with that one, but I don't have as high hopes. I don't have high hopes. But if they would, I was right. It is Gosling, it's not Reynolds. I see him getting Miles before that because, as far as I know, sony doesn't have the rights to the character.
Speaker 2:What Miles? No, Sony's got him too.
Speaker 1:Sony's got the rights to. Sony has the rights to pretty much everything Spider-Man. They just share it with Marvel once in a while. Everything that Marvel helps Sony make the movies, the Tom Holland movies. They provide a lot of the story and stuff. But I think Sony provides a good chunk of the money. They split it and Sony still owns all of the characters. But I've said I don't want Disney owning all of Spider-Man. No thanks, no thanks, as much as I have a love-hate thing with Sony sometimes. No thanks, no thanks. What the I'm letting you guys argue.
Speaker 2:I'm taking the sodas.
Speaker 1:I know you guys aren't going to drink out of the fridge. We weren't arguing.
Speaker 2:We ain't even arguing nothing, though we're agreeing. I'm just going to the podcast.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying you're arguing.
Speaker 2:Oh, I was like what are we arguing?
Speaker 1:I don't need to contribute to this conversation. No, I was going to bring. Put it this way who do you want to see For what In this army? Oh, before I say anything, the other, before I say anything, the other route they could take, because the black suit is from Shadowland. I say anything the other route they could take because the black suit is from Shadowland Storyline from the comic. In that arc, daredevil Control was leader of the Hand. The other theory is him bringing the Hand to help him.
Speaker 1:That's the other possibility you know in the small conversation I had with him. Well, they'd have to work in how the Hand is still surviving in New York like the foot, because, if I remember right in the Defenders they took everybody out. They'd have to really spin that supernatural part of them and kill off everyone. Not really, but that's the two routes they go. One of them routes it's whatever I'd be happy.
Speaker 1:I would have to watch the Defenders again anyway. Well, I know Punisher's going to be a part of season two. He's fucking broke dude's arm. He had to fuck. I'm a fan, ah. Ah. My boss didn't see that. Give him peace.
Speaker 2:We both watched it on.
Speaker 1:Thursday night before going into work. I was actually so surprised that it was coming because I was spinning through the credits.
Speaker 2:And you're like there's a scene going on, Hold on.
Speaker 1:Boop, play it, look to see how much time is running left anymore. I'm like wait, did you put a scene? Well, they weren't going to let fucking you think they captured Punisher. That announcement came out on Thursday. Well see, I'm different because of Disney, because I never know if they're going to put the Not really an end credits thing but lead into the next episode sometimes. They'll usually do that for Disney Plus, though.
Speaker 2:Some of their shows Like Spider-Man.
Speaker 1:They did it a few times the cartoon one, so I would fast forward through it and just watch how many title cards is what I'm going to call it, or credit cards.
Speaker 1:That sounds wrong still, it is a credit card Credit tile, that's better. Credit card Credit tile, that's better. Credit scroll, credit scroll. Well, we were talking about DMV earlier. Hey, that's what. I'm Sorry, dean, I have to thank Star Wars for that one, for the opening scroll. Anyway, I fast forward until I see a picture and then I go back like 10 seconds and boom, I lead into it. That's the only reason I knew that there was an extra scene.
Speaker 2:You're like what the hell I got?
Speaker 1:excited when I seen him sitting down in the cell. Ooh, what's going to happen? Well, you knew they weren't going to let you think he's captured for good. He's out. He's out. I kind of hate how I say ooh now, because all I hear is ooh. I'm not trapped in here with you. You're trapped in here with me. I said that. I said Jon Bernthal is my Punisher. He was born to play Punisher Matt. You're lucky he stayed around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, after everything that happened. Yeah, he walked away. He walked away for a bit. Well, first he had the corrupt cops in real life wearing a symbol and they put it into the fucking show, and then he had Disney trying to mess with his shit. He's a very big source material guy too. That's one person I would love to wait in line at a con for. As gruff and mean as he comes off in all his roles, he is a very nice guy.
Speaker 2:As far as I can tell from everything Punisher he's done so far.
Speaker 1:It is very to the source, so I believe it. He didn't have to go far from a character that he had already played either to start playing Frank, who was the first First time I saw him was Shane from Walking Dead. Yeah, shane.
Speaker 2:He was, basically he was playing a cop there too. That's what I would know, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the first place I've seen Burnfall.
Speaker 2:And then he advanced into other things. Yeah, he was in the Amateur.
Speaker 1:The only time I actually started to even pay any attention to the Walking Dead was Negan. Negan, just where it started to go bad. That's my motherfucker.
Speaker 2:That's me and Nepali Well.
Speaker 1:I paid attention to it because of Supernatural characters. Yeah, now they're all on the voice. And then I got, and then I started liking Invincible and then I got that voice when he came back and beat him. So my boss had never seen the most recent movie remake of Dread Judge Dread. So my boss had never seen the most recent movie remake of Dread Judge Dread. Yeah, he hadn't seen it. My boss had never seen it, He'd only seen the. That one confused the shit out of me what the new one? The remake?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they put superpowers in it?
Speaker 1:No, they didn't. Psychics yeah Well, she was always a psychic. Judge Anderson was always a psychic. That was actually one of her things, she's a mutant.
Speaker 1:I never actually read the comics, I only had. I haven't seen a lot of them, I only had the one movie to go off of, but I had it, so I let my boss borrow it. Because I let him borrow it? Because Carl Urban's coming back as Judge Dredd for Amazon. Really, he's making with the voice producers, he's making a show for Judge Dredd. With him as Dredd, you're shitting Nope. That was announced on Thursday. I'm actually kind of excited.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:It's there With the voice producers. This is going to be some shit. Yeah, Okay, boys.
Speaker 2:We're still waiting on him.
Speaker 1:Johnny Cage. I'm waiting for that trailer to come out. I don't know how to look forward to him as Johnny. I don't. Here's Johnny. I know he can pull it off. I know that's not how I see him. After playing the games, watching the other movies, that's just not how I see him. I think the games watching the other movies that's just not how I see him. I think he's closer to the more recent ones than he is to the older ones. Lowell thinks it should have been me, by the way.
Speaker 2:Makes me feel good inside.
Speaker 1:No, because if it was you you'd die. Lowell said Dean should be Johnny Cage. I think he feels too old compared to how old Sonya is. That's the other thing. That's the issue. Don't worry, we know whose opinion matters when it comes to that. We know.
Speaker 2:He'll be on the podcast we're forcing him to go.
Speaker 1:Carl Urban, we know who will have the he's 52 years old.
Speaker 2:We know who will have the opinion Sonia's probably in her 30s or something.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna look Late 20s Watch and they also changed up Probably not because she was in the first movie. She's currently 36. Johnny Cage is gonna be the, I read. Johnny Cage is gonna be the main character in the second one too, From what I read that works for me. Johnny Cage is gonna be the main character in the next Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 1:I read that I read that they're not killing Cole or nothing, but he's a backseat now I'm okay with that. That feels better. That feels more. Mortal Kombat that's also very video game-ish if you think about it. I didn't like him that much. Those were my only two gripes with the original. I didn't like him that much. Those were my only two gripes with the original. I didn't like Cole that much. That will make Dean happy. He's catching up on all the Star Wars Celebration stuff. That one actually made me happy and the fact that they.
Speaker 1:What else I didn't like in the first Mortal?
Speaker 2:Kombat, who got cast as oh, they Cast as.
Speaker 1:Who Brent? Not Brent Revan.
Speaker 2:Revan, who are you talking?
Speaker 1:about who got cast as Revan. Is that where you were? No, not Revan In Ahsoka, the guy that he actually, oh, rory, yeah, huh. Vibed with Baron. No, balon's school, balon Rory from Game of Thrones, you can sword fight. No, I wasn't going to say oh, I didn't like that. I didn't like that. They made Reptile a fucking little grunt boy. I didn't like that either. They technically made every other character a grunt boy.
Speaker 2:What are you doing to my?
Speaker 1:favorite ninja. They made everybody except Sub-Zero, a grunt boy Including new Goro Kinda. That was probably my biggest issue with the original.
Speaker 2:I'm just happy. Shao Kahn Goro dirty.
Speaker 1:Do you think we're going to get Shiva then? Oh boy, I'm happy we're getting Shao Kahn though. We're getting Shao, or are we going to get Centaur, we're getting Shao that's all I knew, hey Kintaro and we're getting Baraka, baraka.
Speaker 2:What's the tiger version of fucking Kentaro?
Speaker 1:Kentaro, yeah, kentaro.
Speaker 2:Would you be happy?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, we'd get Kentaro before we'd get Shiva. There is a Star Wars horror movie in the works and a report of the zombie one or is it the fucking what's her name? It was like, oh God. There's a couple different horror aspects that they could go with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, comedy.
Speaker 1:Troopers was technically a book too, yep, but it may have something to do with Darth Maul. Really, that's what my coworkers were saying. I guess I'll have to check out the celebration shit. The Brian Gosling one is just codenamed Starfighter right now. That's what the movie.
Speaker 1:I don't like that, because there is a movie called Starfighter. It's codenamed Starfighter. That's not what it's going to actually be called. That's the working title, until they figure it out, as long as it's not X-Wing. How did we get here Talking about movies? Oh, we were on Daredevil. Then we went to, I brought up Judge Dredd, which led us into. Carl Urban, which led us into Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 2:No, I got lost. I got a little sidetracked.
Speaker 1:I had to look up Matt, because I've seen a top five or top three ideas for Star Wars horror and that's the one I want. I want that. I want that. That's what I want. I want that. I want that. That's what I want. I want that. I want that. That's what I want. I want that. Yes, I'd be in that movie like come on, star Wars, redeem yourself.
Speaker 2:Give me some horror.
Speaker 1:You just want that mouth, that mouth no they got it. One movie would who Molina? That's my bae. Fuck you, mortal Kombat. No, fuck you, mortal Kombat. No, well, it was a bullshit kind of episode two in between. So I won't lie, we kind of wanted to do this. Matt even said it. It's been a month we haven't talked about shit. Jason, you're like God, you guys. It's been a month we haven't done one. Forever.
Speaker 2:We didn't bring up the other thing with the Reacher.
Speaker 1:Oh, you have that. I enjoyed season three. Each one kind of feels like it's lesser than the other season. I won't argue that.
Speaker 2:Are you saying it's trending down A little bit?
Speaker 1:The one Alan Richardson wants to do, they probably can't do the next one, the book. Yeah, the next book they want to do, they probably won't let him do it Because I realize that each one is based off a book. Yeah, each series is based off a different book which is nice. It's a good. The funny part is that we've technically done five of the books now Five. Because, Was the first one, like a two book. No, because they won't. They won't touch on the two movies, the two Jack Reacher movies with Tom Cruise. Oh.
Speaker 2:I actually like the first one.
Speaker 1:I like the first one. They reference them in the shows Because he's meant I think we've talked about this before where they mentioned things that happened in the movies but they won't do. But since they happened, they won't touch those. They joked about it. They talked about the sniper dude. He owes him now in season 2. They talked about when in season 3, where he's calling the military base, he's calling to talk to what's her name that he helped rescue in movie two. So it's like they're referencing.
Speaker 1:I don't remember movie two very much so that's kind of sad.
Speaker 1:But they're referencing those, so they've already. They've done five books by definition, though movie two is on TV more than the first one. The one he wants to do is a kidnapping of the president's daughter oh boy, with an extremist group. That's not the one where he technically earns a pardon, isn't it? Might be, I don't know for sure. I didn't actually read the book, I just had, like some Wikipedia read, yeah, but that's the one, but it has to do with government stuff and that they may not be able to Technically, that's a book series, you'd probably buy.
Speaker 2:Preacher.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Currently.
Speaker 1:That's not even the name of the book series. No, there's a shit ton of them, though. I looked up a picture and had a whole shit ton of them. It's the same ton of them, though. I looked up a picture and it had a whole shit ton of them. It's the same as John Clancy. What is Reacher Like MP Military Police? It starts off as Military Police, and then it just goes sideways from there. Okay, because I like him, I like him, so I definitely would watch it at some point. I like him.
Speaker 1:Reacher why does trouble always find you? Because I can deal with it. What season I keep? Seeing that you know what I absolutely loved his fight against the big dude. I keep seeing how it just carried on. That was probably the most cliche fight.
Speaker 2:What a fight I'd like.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, you would absolutely love it. You know how big he is. Oh yeah, big motherfucker. So they hire a guy bigger than him, someone who technically should have been him. No, richardson's 6'2". When they wrote the writer. When he said Reacher's like 6'2"-6'4", oh, I thought he was supposed to be like he's always supposed to be physically intimidating bigger than everybody else. Okay, so when you got Pauly, which was canon, pauly was bigger than him and that's why they wanted it that way. Pauly, you would like Pauly. Actually, that guy, I think he probably He'll be in a couple other things.
Speaker 1:There was thing you wanted to do. No, there was a. I keep seeing this clip on fucking TikTok. It always makes you laugh the one where he's in prison, preacher's in prison or something. That's season one. That's season one and he jumps off the bunk. Oh, you're going to leave out of here in a bucket and they're yeah.
Speaker 1:That's funny, that's my house, pat, so get out of one. That's pristine. That's pristine. We have a weekly office meeting on Thursdays and before the actual meeting starts, on Microsoft Teams, they're always playing music, and my co-worker was mad at me for saying the opening song to Reacher Season One was playing as he's walking through the thing. It's like hey, alex, it's Reacher Season One. It's like how the fuck do you know that they use Microsoft? They use. It's like hey, alex, it's Reacher season one. It's like how the fuck do you know that? It's because they use Microsoft. They use Teams too. That's what we use Teams. I hate that program. I hate Teams. That's not fun. That's all we use.
Speaker 2:No, because once it's on the computer and you're signed in.
Speaker 1:We don't have it. It pops up and shit. It pops up on its own every time you sign into the computer and I've changed the settings multiple times, it's just whenever the computer goes through an update. It's there I just let it pop up and then click X. That's all I do. Yeah, but we have to sign in the computer multiple times a day Because it signs us out. I get around that by having Magic the Gathering playing Streams Blank on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have no control over that.
Speaker 1:That's mainly for office people and shit. We don't use the fucking teams, neither do we.
Speaker 2:We're team seeing everything.
Speaker 1:They try to invite us and then we're like no, this is going in at 4 o'clock, we're just getting our orders. That's how we get off of our office stuff. Most of the stuff is happening in the office building. We're three blocks away Most of the time, and this is actually one of the things Separate buildings or just a big building. I'm in the warehouse, which is three blocks away from the office. They're not connected. No, dean would probably Guess what that means Nobody ever comes over. I'd be annoyed as a bitch. Yeah, you would.
Speaker 2:Where Nobody ever comes over.
Speaker 1:I'd be annoyed as a bitch. Yeah, you would. Where's the office? People Walk a couple blocks out what I want to bitch at them. I'd hate that. He's got one person oh we have to write them emails. We still bitch at them. Now we leave that to one person. We do too, to be fair. Ay, yoy, yoy. My favorite, I created my favorite conversation. Hi, this is customer support. How can I help you? It's like yeah, we got books, we didn't order. Oh, do you know if you ordered anything?
Speaker 2:No, Cha-ching, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, is there anything else? Because it's top ten time. I thought it was going to take longer than an hour and a half To get through all that. We didn't pitch as much as we wanted to. No, because the Daredevil stuff, a lot of your gripes, were shit. That actually made. I said my points were fine. Shit. That made sense to me that I don't disagree with, but you didn't drag us down like you thought I didn't expect you.
Speaker 1:I said I might get it down one point. No, I didn't my fair rating if I had to really give an honest opinion me going off of Hype Dean.
Speaker 2:And I said eight.
Speaker 1:You might have dropped me a seven. Okay, I'll give you that. Hype Dean will probably stay at a nine, because Hype Dean was hype and pretty much there the whole time, Thinking of everything as a package. Calm down, it'd be in the 8 to 9 range. So kind of, but a little bit, I understand.
Speaker 1:So it's like things that were downgrading for me didn't have a finalized thought in my brain. I didn't think they did anything special that wasn't already done or used for any of the other Daredevils. Yeah, matt did bring up a point. That was true. He even said he didn't say it bad, but he said it true. It's like he was speaking from my perspective. He's like Dean, you're an action junkie, so a lot of the shit I'm going to harp about is shit that was probably off to the side for you. Anyway, there was something I did appreciate about the show the Vigilante thing. They did connect other shows to this one.
Speaker 2:Hey, it's Swordman, it's.
Speaker 1:Sword. It's the sword guy. Fucking Kamala's dad showing up was another thing. Him creating a personalized pop of her.
Speaker 2:That had me dead.
Speaker 1:That was funny.
Speaker 2:Hey a pop.
Speaker 1:But even that was just a standalone episode and it's just like you're giving us a little bit of. Yeah, that was kind of a weird episode because they double dropped that episode. They gave you two episodes, I'm like.
Speaker 1:My favorite part of the finale was just Matt talking to Frank in his home. Hey man, Frank had some bull, Frank had that one guy, you want some coffee? That one guy he had under the table. He just put like three in his head through a table. I'm like I also wasn't a big fan of the slow-mo of that fight scene. The talking no it goes slow-mo when it went slow-mo during the actual housing raid part. It's like for Punisher for Matt. It works.
Speaker 2:Punisher not so much.
Speaker 1:That's what makes Reacher better. Watching it in live is actually more intimidating than watching it in slow-mo. But slow-mo has to be used for Matt when he's doing the tricks. You know what's going to make me watch Reach your Knob Every time he uses that extended fucking hole. It's going to make me watch Reach your Knob as I fight with Pauly. You're like Dean, you're going to like that. Am I going to be up with the shirt off? In order to actually appreciate the character as a whole, I suggest you start start from season one. I mean, that's a lot of content, that's what I do, what is it?
Speaker 1:Because everything that happens in season three, Season three is Pauly.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, I'd have to get.
Speaker 1:There is a built up character from season one, pauly, no Reacher.
Speaker 1:Reacher you need to see everything Reacher has done to respect how difficult this fight is. Everything in season three is built up from season one and two. So you're saying it's a shirt-off manly fight? Oh, yes, oh no, it's a whole episode. So they're, am I gonna? They still fighting? Yes, by the time you're actually getting to, I'm gonna ruin one part of this fight for you. They fall into the fucking ocean and, actually getting to something, I'm going to ruin one part of this fight for you. They fall into the fucking ocean and they're still fighting. Yes, yes, literally. Get back here and guess what? I'd be dead. Guess what, what? They both get out and they're still going, and they're still going. You have Reacher walking damn near fucking naked back to the house to finish what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 1:I think you can remind me of two scenes. He was technically clothed, oh yeah there was. What? No wait, please finish this. I need there's an earlier scene where he goes swimming and he's only in his swimwear. I said the trigger word for it. Wait a minute. So he's the fight he thinks over. He's walking back and Paulie's dragging right behind him. He's walking back like I'm finished with the fight and all of a sudden Motherfucker, I'm not done with you.
Speaker 1:He's coming out the woods and he's like, hey, is it a me kind of fight?
Speaker 2:Yes, it is very you.
Speaker 1:He dies how Paulie dies, how he would die. Oh and this, that is a very Dean way to die. So do us both a favor Please watch Reacher. I could care less about Vox Machina myself, but Reacher, give every season a watch. No that I want to watch, that I do. I'm going to get to that. The funny part for a Vox Machina is it's literally anime which is one of his passions, and he won't watch it. That's the funniest part about it.
Speaker 2:He doesn't consider it anime. I know, but it's animation. That's the one reason I didn't say anime.
Speaker 1:I wanna get to both. I will get to both. I mean, I got vacation. I'm off Monday. I could probably start one. Wait, the first jab? No, oh no, you didn't. No, the first jab was not. That wasn't recorded Shit. No, that was literally right before we started recording. That was perfect. It was the silent jab and I still appreciate it. I'm done. I'm sorry, Dean.
Speaker 2:It's the gift that keeps on giving. No, that shit's just.
Speaker 1:You got me distracted now because all I'm imagining is thinking of fights over your call. I ain't done with that shit, hey, no, the thing you'll appreciate is how many times Alan gets full nude in this series. Oh my god, he's gotta sleep with someone every episode. Hey, he naked Because he's written as one of these characters. That is like James Bond. He gets the girl. Wait, is Pauly technically a bad guy? Yes, uh, oh, he's. That is like James Bond. He gets the girl. Wait, is Pauly technically a bad guy? Yes, uh-oh. He's got a fucking Gatling gun in his guard station. And you have a whole scene where them two are lifting weights and arm wrestling. Oh my god, just because, oh, and you know I like it, because I like fight, I like kind of down and dirty fights like Muse and Daredevil the first time. Oh, you, you know I like it because I like kind of down and dirty fights like Mews and Daredevil the first time, like, oh, you'll like this one. Then Watching the show will make you realize how good he would be at Batman.
Speaker 1:Okay, you're going to hate me for this, but I like this fight scene way more than any fight scene that ever happened in Daredevil.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:It's probably one of the better written ones. Okay, okay, it's one of the better written ones, and I said that for a reason. You're going to hate me for this because you were shirt off for Daredevil, so I can't imagine what you're going to be for season three of Reacher. I was shirt off for a lot of solo leveling episodes too, dude.
Speaker 1:Ah Both scenes with Beru fighting are saved on my work laptop Him against the S-Class Hunters and then his Jinwus fight against them. They're both saved on my computer, sanjewu. You haven't watched any of it yet, have you, sanjewu? I really need to re-read it up to the demon arc.
Speaker 1:Dripibu, that's the demon arc up, I mean. But like you said, though, you get a third season out of it. You're about done with solo leveling. But you have read it all at one point yeah, the season ends post-Juju and he's walking into that gate that the chairman asks him to go in right at the end. That's literally the last episode, last part of the season. He's walking into the secondary red gate. The biggest stuff in season three is going to be Thomas, andre, that's the season.
Speaker 1:Double dungeon. I mean there's not much that he'd notice that red gate anyway. Thomas Andre, double dungeon monarchs there ain't much left His own guild I don't know how if you can get two seasons out of it. I really don't. You might not be able to, unless they lead it right into Ragnarok. I doubt it. I don't think people know enough for that one.
Speaker 1:Next is the double dungeon, and then you've got the dungeon outbreak with his sister. Oh god, no, sister leveling is going to take a while, jenna. I don't know if that's going to have a lot of sister leveling.
Speaker 1:No, I'm talking about the abridged bullshit, I know, but I'm saying I don't think there's a lot of content there for the sister leveling. But you got that and then you kind of got him getting greed Hong Soo, hong Soo. If you can make that a season, maybe, but I don't think there's enough content for a season. That's when Thomas Andre pulls up. Apparently, the producer and Alex Leo always talk about how to draw things out, yeah, and then he sped run fucking too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, no, there are certain parts where they're not talking and Alex Lee is like hey, let's put something in there. I broke him.
Speaker 1:When he kills Dong Soo. That's about when Thomas Andre shows up in a fight, but I'm saying after that there's not a lot, yeah, besides the monarchs and shit. I do want to see him get Greed. I'm a little mad because greed don't do much. Funny because he don't want to use greed, because greed's design is flawless. I love greed's design. Everybody after greed he gets is barely used. Or everybody he gets after Beru is barely used. He gets fucking the Aqua one and Greed relatively close by.
Speaker 2:I also love.
Speaker 1:Jima Jima's the one. Beru basically becomes his lieutenant and does everything for him Until he gets until the final level, until Beru's like I'm gonna be Grand Marshal Belyon, no, you go away. Go away, baleon. Just aura farmed the shit out of Beru and that's hard to do you go, go away oh.
Speaker 1:You want to know the big debate in solo leveling? I'm still going. Are you paranoid, like me? I keep looking at it. I am getting paranoid. I am paranoid, I am glad to add, actually the way we do our top 10, we gotta get to it pretty quick.
Speaker 1:But no, my last thing, because we had a solo 11. One of the biggest debates right now for solo leveling currently like the strongest shadow is Belion. That's not debatable. It's Belion who's stronger, beru or Igris? You got people on both sides. Beru starts out as stronger. He's technically a higher level. A lot of people say Beru starts out stronger, but people say when Igris gets the sword and unlocks his full power, igris is stronger. I'm just saying that's the debate.
Speaker 2:It's a fair argument with the sword yeah.
Speaker 1:But Beru's always been a higher rank. You can understand both sides almost. And also, to be fair, Beru could heal in Ygris camp. Well then, the Ygris side brings up the statement that the Frost Monarch was scared of Ygris and not Beru. I'm just saying the shit they bring up. That's based upon power. Yeah, because the two strongest ones you have until he gets great. Think of it like Pokemon style. As much as I'm just saying there's a lot of people that think Igris is stronger than Beru.
Speaker 2:You'd be surprised.
Speaker 1:It's fair, because Igris is using a weapon from a monarch. He's using a demon monarch. I had to research though, because I told you, I'm actually hoping they do Ragnarok. Because of that I didn't. It's been a long time since I read any of it and I had to remember I still haven't gotten through.
Speaker 1:The baron that Jinwu killed? That wasn't baron, that was like a clone or something. That wasn't Baran. That was like a clone or something that wasn't actually him. For which one? The Demon King Baran? That wasn't actually him. Technically it counts, because he got the. He's technically the Demon Monarch. Oh, I read somewhere that that wasn't technically him.
Speaker 2:The original one is he got the deed of the Monarch from him, didn't he?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's technically him oh.
Speaker 2:It's weird he let uh Radish's.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, I said that wrong. Yes, you did, you've said it how Jinwoo says it every time yeah, I did he let her people take over?
Speaker 1:The funny part is that they changed it. Did you catch that in Ragnarok? She changed it to Radish. Yeah, she did. She did change it to Radish Clan, which is the funny part, but uh, no, uh, because she comes back and gets a power-up. Did I hear something wrong? Because some people tell me that wasn't actually like Baran, that was like a. I don't know. No, it should be him. I don't know. I have to see what argument it is to. It should be him. As far as I know, it was the physical being, because you never see him again. Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't want motherfuckers thinking I'm stupid?
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:I want to explain this without giving too much away of the sequel. But in the sequel his son only gets power-ups by recruiting the Monarch's legacy. So you remember the Beast? Yeah, monarch. He gets Rakan. Yeah, I know the shit.
Speaker 2:He looks it up.
Speaker 1:I think we've talked about it, which is why I said that one first. He gets the little wolf pup, yeah, and joins the team. It's like a power-up, it's a form, a transformation. So, yeah, as far as I know, the demon one is gone because he gets. You see him again when he's going through the devil dungeon. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's what people talk about. That's why I just want to. I'm just that's where I got that from. If something about that's wrong by that definition, yes, okay, I'm just.
Speaker 2:Maybe I here, I'll let you read it too.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm talking about. By definition. Yes, in the story of soul leveling the Baron that Jinwoo faces on the 100th floor is a clone, not the real Demon, monarch Baron, because he was killed by Ash. That's why In the storyline, technically that's true. You get what I'm saying though, because you get the flashback of it. Okay, that I understand. That's why I was, that's where I got that.
Speaker 2:That's where I got that, that's fine.
Speaker 1:Is that where we're getting technical? No, that's where I got that from, because the Baron he fights is technically created by the system. Okay, that's. That's all I needed.
Speaker 2:That is technically true.
Speaker 1:Did you hear him? Yes, and it also makes more sense than you know, because the system creates the monarchs. I couldn't explain it because I ain't read the shit in a while and I was like that's not Barrow.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I needed to see the argument. That's why I had to bring it up.
Speaker 1:You do know that Jinwoo is one right. He's the vessel of. Ashborn, he was chosen by Ashborn Jay's, like Jesus Christ he does. I told you I'm trying to let you enjoy as much of this as possible without me fucking ruining anything. I don't think you will, though I I I'm similar, because when I state something and you have to look it up, you're like what you mean, why I only had to bring that one up my knowledge because I was like did I hear something wrong from somebody?
Speaker 1:that's why I had to. No, you did. That's why I had to bring this. I was processing it differently than what you had there. I was just that, wasn't you get how it's how it was. At least he gets it, Okay, I know what you're saying. Now, that's what I heard. Like I said I needed to hear the argument on what they're trying to say. That's not the original Buran.
Speaker 2:That's not the original, we were just remembering it as the monarch was dead.
Speaker 1:It's like we don't see. I was starting to process it in between because the next time. The only other time you see him is when he's doing the flashback. You do see him there and that's where maybe my brain was starting to recall it. That's what I heard on TikTok discussions.
Speaker 2:They were saying what do you?
Speaker 1:mean that wasn't Baran. Then they go on a whole fucking thing about why it wasn't technically so. Was that created by the architect? The guy that's in the double dungeon, yeah, yeah, the architect, the entire system was created by him, me.
Speaker 1:That's the thing that made me that you told me about. You're like you, like your big statue, a god statue. He's not the big bad of that room, he's kind of he kind of gets no-diffed. The architect is, that'll be fun. You're actually going to very much love. Where this story leads into. It doesn't start to get lame and weird until you deal with only the monarchs. That's where everything kind of started to fall apart. Oh, I told him one thing who I wanted to voice? Thomas Andre, but he was already in the show. Can't do it, fuck, I was so mad. The only voice for Thomas Andre, but he was already in the show. Can't do it, fuck, I was so mad. The only voice for Thomas Andre to me is Frankie. He's already did a voice. He's Iron's voice, human, iron.
Speaker 2:And now he just gets to talk again.
Speaker 1:Yep, I was like fuck, alright, enough solo Get back to vampires. Vampires there's no vampires really in solo level. No the one I'm reading right now is the beginning.
Speaker 2:after the end Don't watch that anime. Poo poo caca.
Speaker 1:I'm caught up on that too. It's not poo poo caca, it's just it's weak, it's weaker. The animation style is too close to something that already exists, that the story fucking feels too much like what? Solo Beginning after the end.
Speaker 2:Why are?
Speaker 1:you so mad. I don't know why you hyped that one up, because technically it should have the same animation style as solo leveling.
Speaker 2:The way they do things With a slower build up Way slower build up, way slower build up.
Speaker 1:Actually, I can't even say that because I think in the second fucking episode we're already in the elf village. Three Three, jay says he thinks I'd like it, but he Are. We let's put it this way. He says he thinks I'd like it, but he reeled it back at oh no, tensei, you like that one, right? Yeah, but you wish they had dialed back the pervertedness a bit more, right? Not in the way.
Speaker 1:I think, Rudeus is just a little creep at times. This is like that same setting, but he dials it back. He's taking the complete opposite approach as Rudeus when, like he feels awkward because he feels like he's 30 years older than everybody else, versus.
Speaker 1:Rudeus he treats people like kids. Versus Rudeus is very much into the neat culture. This was a previous king who was secluded because he was too powerful, who goes to a world where he now has to learn all these new things and is trying to I don't want to use this term loosely dumb himself down to fit in so he can live his life.
Speaker 1:Because I was going to probably give it a shot, and I still might, but after he watched the episode he toned it back. I don't know if you're going to watch Watch what and watch that. The?
Speaker 2:only reason I say that is because the animation style is too much like the other.
Speaker 1:Like, if you watched it you would see frame for frame Mushuko you have to get to episode 4 before you start feeling his aura.
Speaker 2:That's when he.
Speaker 1:Before you see anything different, except for the flashbacks. The flashbacks is only where you get something different. The only other issue with it is Jay he said it jokingly, but it's a me thing he's like you're going to compare it to solo leveling right away.
Speaker 1:And comparing anybody you comparing someone to Drippy Woo is not fair. You honestly do need to compare it more to Mushoku Tensai than you need to compare it to Solo Leveling. To start Drippy Woo to start To start as soon as it starts, by the time he's trying to become an adventurer, is where it kind of starts to turn into Solo Leveling. And I've just read everything in a week. We should get that by episode five At our current pacing maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:My current we just got a little bit. My current We've got an hour before. I've switched off in the fucking A lot.
Speaker 2:My old guard is kind of my shit's ending.
Speaker 1:So the new stuff's coming in Like Fire Force is coming in. My Goat Windbreaker's coming in Like Fire Force is coming in. My Goat Windbreaker is coming in. I always thought of my Goat Windbreaker.
Speaker 2:I recommended. Lazarus if and when you wanted to watch it.
Speaker 1:Probably. I really wanted to watch it. I just couldn't figure out how I was going to. Shangri-la. Frontier ended giving me the middle finger, so I'm a little mad about that one. I told you you weren't going to be happy. What? What do you mean? You're ending it here? I told you I had a bad place.
Speaker 2:I'm like this is where you're going to end the season I had a bad feeling when they were like you're ending this season here. I missed where he said that Shangri-La, oh no. The most they end the season right in the middle of something.
Speaker 1:You have three episodes left, and now you're touching on this tournament. Oh, we're fucked. Touching on this tournament? Oh we're fucked. I could have told you they were going to do that. I'm like that hurt. Well, you watch that one too, or you just from here and there? Yeah, oh, I don't watch it religiously like you do. How the fuck you watch something here and there, or just an episode here and there?
Speaker 2:When he gets high where he's not dedicated to it like we are.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm pretty dedicated to a lot of shit. I can't lie. You watch things and I'm going to say this again religiously where it is in your set schedule to do Low key, I'm not that way, I know. Want to know what I am literally doing right now. I have Once Upon a Time on in the background and I'm fucking reading shit on my phone. I'm catching up on manga. There is an from the Mushoku Tensai artist Before that I was reading my comics.
Speaker 1:So all that shit that I had stacked just sitting is dwindling and I'm not helping that because I just bought another stack this big. I'm pretty sure the company that does Mushoku Tensai is doing Old Country Pumpkin turned Master Swordsman. I love that. I really like that one, his father yeah, that's why I'm making the joke. I'm pretty sure it's the same studio doing it because it's just the same artwork. I like that one.
Speaker 2:I have a feeling. I know what your favorite girl is doing, you know what's sad what? Is I?
Speaker 1:like that story better. Which one's my favorite? The redhead.
Speaker 2:How'd you know? You want to know why I started watching it.
Speaker 1:You want to know why I started watching it? Because I went on Prime. I seen the little picture. I'm like who that redhead chick I'm watching this? Yep, we'll get into her backstory later. That's the. But no, at least it isn't the show or the story where, uh, it's an old guy who pulls a sword from the stone and it makes him. The only way he can power up is by fucking chicks. Yeah, I know which one you're talking about but no, I wanted you do.
Speaker 1:I wanted to bring that up to you because I'm watching the last episode of the season of Shangri-La. On how many minutes are left? I'm like what is going you just what is going on? Why are you just starting this? Honestly, you want to know what this feels like. Is that the entire gaming convention is a movie? Honestly, that kind of feels what it kind of left it off as.
Speaker 2:It's like where you For a second there.
Speaker 1:I thought you were going to compare it to Daredevil.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I'm comparing it to You're leaving it here. I'm comparing it to Demon Slayer, because where it left off, and then you got the Muyan Train.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:Demon Slayer is just doing milks.
Speaker 2:now the last arc of Demon Slayer is going to be split into three movies.
Speaker 1:That's what Demon Slayer is doing now. The last arc is split into three movies. But that's the vibe I'm getting was like when you cut off abruptly, kind of where the season ended and they got Muyun Train as a movie and now it kind of feels like the entire tournament's going to be one I'm starting to love every character.
Speaker 1:I love Sun Raku. There's bias because it's Eric Vale. It's Sanji's voice. There's bias, we're almost there. We're getting there. Just keeping the screen on, he's going to laugh. Pencil Gun's almost my favorite character, like of course she is. She'll step on you too, yep. And I love Katso. I have biased the Katso because that's Brittany's, that's a fucking Rimaru's voice actress. So I have biased towards Katso. So how are we bringing in our top ten here? Anime vampire yeah, we haven't talked about it. Do we have an anime vampireire? Alucard?
Speaker 2:Castlevania.
Speaker 1:By definition, Circling back to. Yeah, that one is. He can't yell about that one. It's literally in the Anime tab for Netflix. But then again, if you put Fox Machina in Netflix, it would get there too. Just keep stabbing him in the back. Why don't you Circling? That wasn't intended. Circling back to vampires Our top ten for this episode is top ten vampire movies. Wow, that was just yeah. We go from Shangri-La Frontier to vampire.
Speaker 2:There'll be a lot of repetition here.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, big time, except for my low ones. Except for my low ones. Oh, mine are all over. There's going to be a lot of duplicates because of surprising lack of vampire films, at least quality ones. From the year 1990 till now, vampires have not been a very big thing, unless they were a part of romance. Fuck you Twilight. Oh my god, I set him up and he took it. What's a better love story than Twilight? Everything, everything. I want to see a worse love story than Twilight. I really do. I made the joke that there was one. I can't remember what it was for, though I did make that joke. Love hurts Nope, still better. He had to think for a second, because that was pretty bad, but he had to think. I liked the movie too. It just didn't make much sense as far as. All right, fuck it. Are we rolling again? Yep, okay, might as well, god damn it. Oh no, the dice are coming. We're going to be doing enough dicey rolls next week. It's not my fault. Actually, it is my fault.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:I was literally about to say what the fuck do you mean? Says the people that want to keep playing. Damn it. How do you fucking circle that on us? Because we don't actually want to roll the dice, we just want to play. Can?
Speaker 2:I, we don't want to do the math.
Speaker 1:We just want to play. I don't want to do it. It is kind of sad that every time we play, JJ just hovers over him to do the math for him.
Speaker 2:It's not hard to follow math.
Speaker 1:I don't know why you struggle with it. It's like the first column first and then you add everything. No, it's fucking serious. It's a problem because I know he can do it, because he's doing the math at work for me.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:What the fuck I. I don't do math fast like people, and I'm trying to do it fast, to move the game along.
Speaker 2:And here he is at work and he's just what the fuck.
Speaker 1:You just did that already before I even had a chance to try and figure out the math I wanted to do, Because I'm so used to them weird quantities. No, no, no, no 19. No, no, no no 19. 13. Nope, he's just Natural, he goes first, anyway, no hold on, hold on, you roll, let's see if you get. I rolled, I got a five.
Speaker 1:If you get a nat one. We double roll. Well, you rolled a five, I rolled a five. I didn't even see it. I rolled it first. God damn it. So is it me? Yeah, it's you. Oh, my god. It is vampire boy, oh yeah vampire boy. Well, yeah, you're the one who is a vampire Remember. Huh, oh, that vampire boy. Well, yeah, you're the one who is a vampire Remember. Come on Stack.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:All right, my number 10. I always kind of do this at 10. Everything else is whatever. If I had to pick which one, I'd kind of put two there just to yap about. The first one is going to be the one that I said is not necessarily a good movie. But Queen of the Damned, it is not a good movie. Never saw it, it's just sexy. That's the whole point of the fucking movie, and it's based on Anne Rice's novels and shit. I'm like this has nothing to do with the novels. Almost Holy shit. Isn't that the one where they're just wearing bikinis the entire time?
Speaker 2:That's what the pop artist that died was named Alea. Whatever the fuck her name was, I forgot her name. It's the one that has disturbed in the soundtrack.
Speaker 1:You'd know if I showed you the poster the only one. I know is Selena. Shit hold on.
Speaker 2:This is one I actually re-watched, yep you know that one, I know the poster but I never watched it.
Speaker 1:I actually do like that one. It is not a good movie. I'm sitting there watching this like, oh my.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know the top ten list he wanted for this one. The Guilty Pleasures? That'd be a Guilty Pleasure, probably. Yes, not again. I watched one of my Guilty Pleasures last night Don't tell us about it. No. Pleasures last night, don't tell us about it. No, but the one Queen of the Damned is tied with. That, in terms of a movie, would probably be better than I watched. Of course it's horror, so Stephen King's going to pop up somewhere. 2024 is Salem's Lot. That Max did, I had fun with it.
Speaker 2:That's your number 10?.
Speaker 1:Yep, salem's Lot. It's a tie between Queen of the Damned and Salem's Lot. But Number 10? Yep, salem's Lot. It's a tie between Queen of the Damned and Salem's Lot. But if I had to pick one to have an edge for 10, it would probably be Salem's Lot but I just wanted to yell out the Queen of the Damned, that probably gets you over in story. No, salem's Lot wasn't ridiculously amazing, but it's Stephen King and Salem's Lot's a very good vampire story. It's one a bright event, but, yes, yes, salem's Lot's charming.
Speaker 1:It takes place in like a little town and shit.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I ain't gonna yap too much about the.
Speaker 1:Lord's, here it's Stephen King it takes place in a little town. It takes place in a little town In Maine.
Speaker 2:Which I'm waiting for. Welcome to.
Speaker 1:Derry, welcome to. I'm waiting for that. I think that's going to be good, I'm hoping. All right, matt, I already kind of told you because I'm a detective, but by definition, my number 10 isn't a vampire movie. Oh God, it's supposed to be a vampire movie. What's that? I am legend.
Speaker 2:Is that supposed to be a vampire movie? It's debated.
Speaker 1:The book is vampires. The movie is not. The movie is just like zombies and shit. Basically, it's vampire burn but they hurt when they go out into sunlight. They were supposed to be vampires. There's people that what the fuck virus would have turned people into vampires? That's a more interesting spin than what we got. No, I'm going to. This might be a spoiler, but I'll touch on that later. It might not be on anyone's, it might be on his, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:Okay that makes me feel like a fucking. You guys are going all serious and mine starts off fucking hilarious and stupid. Well, you told us it was, yeah, the Little Vampire. I knew it was going to be the Little Vampire.
Speaker 2:I figured that one. Oh my God, it was in the back of my brain.
Speaker 1:I could watch that one, I repeat, when I was. Yeah, and I'm not talking about the fucking CG bullshit one that they recreated. I'm talking about the one that's live action, where you get the whistle and all that, adding sinners to this list. I've crossed off Nosferatu and now I have a new honorable name. You must bounce on it. Stop, you got somebody to bounce on it. Who Come on Stack?
Speaker 2:I think you died, oh God.
Speaker 1:You were lying on the ground, bro, and I was.
Speaker 2:You died, oh God you were lying on the ground, bro, and I was twitching.
Speaker 1:That's what's supposed to happen when she bites you. Is your number nine or do you have anything for Little Vampire? More Talked about it a little bit Time to think. Little boy who was struggling in life found vampires and ended up finding himself through it. He didn't have friends. It's a very relatable movie.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:You gave me that mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Number nine Me, nope One. I might be the only one who's seen this John Carpenter's Vampires. It is from 98, I believe it's John.
Speaker 2:Carpenter's take on vampires.
Speaker 1:I will look now, but I want to know when that came out. When did that come out? 98, that's right, it's a horror western Vampires. The main vampire is played by um, the guy that's in uh, the Third Karate Kid and Cobra Kai. Oh, terry Silver, the guy who plays Terry Silver's the vampire yeah, I can see that. But the main star is James Woods and James Woods drops. There's good vampire action in there. It's very bloody. But James Woods carries that movie with some of the shitty fucking says.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I can't see him as a vampire fighter after watching a scary movie, god damn it.
Speaker 1:But no, he is in John. Now imagine the entirety of that movie with that James Woods. Oh, it's a more serious James Woods, but he still has fucking iconic one-liners. Hey, because he's traveling around after his whole crew dies, he has a Padre. He goes. Let me tell you something, padre. Let me tell you something, padre. Vampires, they're dangerous. They're not what the books and movies tell you. They're not fags dancing around in formal wear. They're dangerous. I'm like I'll take that line to heart. There's a whole. There's a whole.
Speaker 2:Why did?
Speaker 1:a stereo pop into my mind when you said that Pocket sand, Pocket sand. But no, it's a good movie and it's very bloody for its time. Like God, you got this much people getting hacked in half in 1998?. Bigs dancing around in formal wear. That's a quote from James Woods in that movie. There's another one, but it's too long, I'll read it later. But yes, good movie, very entertaining vampire movie, but we're different so far. I said until I start to hurt you now?
Speaker 2:I don't know far.
Speaker 1:I said until I start to hurt you. Now, number nine I know it's on this list. Dracula Untold you, son of a bitch. I vibe with that movie a lot more than other people did that's higher. That's higher, just not higher for me, the most realistic approach to a vampire movie in a while. Vlad the Imp Okay, that movie made me so hopeful for the dark universe that just got it shoved under the rug, thanks to the mummy.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:You want to know why, mom? I'm telling you jokingly but there might be truth why the mummy movie failed people. Oh shit, brendan Fraser that's not Brendan Fraser that movie sucked. It was actually not a too horrible movie, and I'm saying not too horrible because it's something that was entertaining in the slightest To me it was I said the slightest my thing about Dracula Untold one of my favorite.
Speaker 2:What I didn't get is that the him turning into a mummy.
Speaker 1:It was like the entirety of the plot. Mummy Didn't make sense to me. Okay, number nine.
Speaker 2:Let's go with.
Speaker 1:Vampire Brooklyn, like it was a vampire movie, but it was, you know, modernized to a fault, not meant to be taken serious, Not really Kinda. I mean look at the main character, Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy is a vampire.
Speaker 2:That's who it was right. I'm not remembering that wrong.
Speaker 1:I'm not living in a fucking different universe. No, it was Eddie Murphy. It was Eddie Murphy. It was like Blackula, but trying to take it seriously, blackula, but trying to Tell me I'm wrong. You're not. That's why I'm laughing. I liked it because of what it was and what it was trying to do, but it can't go higher on my list.
Speaker 2:It can't.
Speaker 1:Which is sad because the movie the one that comes after it. We got number eight for you, dean. My number eight Yep. Probably way higher on everyone else's, but I got Blade at 8. Good movie, one of the best openings. One of the only reasons why the opening is the only reason One of the best openings to a movie ever. Them motherfuckers are just getting it on.
Speaker 1:I can still jam to that music. I'm like the fucking blood everywhere, the Daywalkers here. But no invoking franchise rule. Here I mean Blade 1, great Blade 2, great Blade 3 was poo-poo-ca-ca 3 is the one that, even if it does have its moments 3 is the one that lags behind. 1 and 2 were very good. 3 kind of, which is the one with Reynolds. Three, three, yeah. Three is when M2 had the beef. Oh yeah, and they mentioned it in Dead Pulver we get beef. I don't like you. I never did, I never did.
Speaker 2:I never did.
Speaker 1:Bling Blaine Higher on mine. That's what I said. I was like I'll put it here.
Speaker 2:Eight.
Speaker 1:Yep, another movie that hurts Dean Underworld. I put Underworld one that number eight. I knew that'd be on his list.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did franchise rules on that one. Do you have a favorite? I did one, I said one.
Speaker 1:I'd probably lean the first one, because that's a series that there's some. There's some poopoo caca in that series though, too there's some poopoo caca. There was a two or three that decided to do a prequel thing rise of the lichens rise of the lichens. Blood Ties was the one where they kind of did futuristic.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it kind of turns poopoo caca. That's where it started throwing me off. I was like what are you doing Again? I love Kate Beckinsale.
Speaker 2:They didn't know what they were doing. I love.
Speaker 1:Kate Beckinsale. There's a little bit of bias, but the movies were not. That's kind of me. With Mila Jovovich and Resident Evil, they're not as bad as Holy shit. This is a whole boy movie, but I'm still here, I'm still watching. It's 8.30. Why am I tired? Already? You two exhaust me. Ha ha Ha ha. I wanted to say it. You wanted to say it. So we're just working Feels like it some days For an excuse to hang out. That's your guys' fault, that's it guys' fault.
Speaker 1:I was supposed to say my next, eh, uh-huh, dracula dead and loving it. Can't take that movie fucking seriously at all. The comedy gets me all the fucking time, especially the sex scenes, or the intended sex scene. Until he said Blade, I hadn't seen any of your movies. I still haven't, really so Vampire and Brooklyn, I haven't seen.
Speaker 2:I've not seen any of those You've not seen. Little Vampire. You ain't seen Little Vampire you said that with 10. I thought you did see it.
Speaker 1:I guess I had seen it and Maiden were Queen of the Damned Salem's Lot reference and Vampire's, john Carpenter.
Speaker 2:You ain't seen none of those I've seen one of you a piece and only his is on my list.
Speaker 1:How are you with like Naked Gun style movies?
Speaker 1:I'm fine, I just didn't grow up on them like that. I watched Airplane before I watched Naked Gun. That's just like that. But it's Dracula. I knew there were those movies that existed. I just never got to watching them, For fuck's sakes. They have a Igor-esque type character in there. It's so hilarious. Fucks up on purpose and they keep it in the movie. Did you see the naked gun trailer? Yes, I did and I'm going. I'm actually kind of excited for it. I actually do like the legacy part that they put into it, Because I wasn't sure how they were going to do it. Were they going to reboot it or were they going to? Him being the little girl was the most cringiest part of it. It's like, oh no, this is where they're going to go with this.
Speaker 1:It just feels weird, you know what I like about that Is that they play so hard into it. It's like technology has grown, we're going to use it. They play so hard into that, especially the legacy wall OJ, everybody, I'm going to miss you. I'm going to miss you, pops. And then they hand over to him and they're like Seven. Seven for me is a new kid on the block, abigail. Very fun movie. That was one of the fun. That's one I haven't watched. That was a very fun movie. Again, takes a little bit to get to the vampire shit, but when it comes it's like, not as long as Sinners.
Speaker 1:Or my next one. It's something about a little girl that's a vampire and she actually acts very well. And Dan Stevens being Dan Stevens' nutcase, I'm starting to enjoy what's his name Kevin Durant in almost everything he does. So Gene Carlo has bizitos in there, the only thing that had me. What the fuck? When vampires die, they blow up. That's the most fun.
Speaker 1:I'm like boom, boom. What's this? Boom Boom, did I? Did I? Did I watch that myself? Or did I go to a movie with you and see it? You've seen it twice, didn't you? No, I saw it with him. You did see it with me. Yes, you did I recommend it. You wanted to see it and I said I'll go see it. I'll go see it again. Yep, you didn't work with him yet. Oh, but yes, vampire go boom. That's my favorite Vampire go boom. My number seven is Grim Dust. Hold On Higher. We know what's on mine. Yeah, I swear to God when I say it, I'm asking me like how much of this is Salma Hayek, all of it? I'll have him rant when he gets the rant. I probably ain't gonna rant that much.
Speaker 2:It depends, maybe a couple of top ones.
Speaker 1:Maybe I think you might actually watch this one, the Vampire Assistant. Not all of it, but I know which movie you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Is that that one?
Speaker 1:with John C Reilly.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Based on Zerk the Freak the fucking books. I know what that is. I actually would have appreciated it had it gotten a sequel or more. There was like 12 books to that. That movie must have flopped and tanked. It did not come out during the right time no out during the right time. Nope, nope, nobody's interested.
Speaker 2:Vampire's Apprentice.
Speaker 1:right yeah, I always thought that's the first book. Well, I think that's the name of the second book. I used to dabble in those books in high school.
Speaker 2:Might have been middle school, though 2009.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was my junior year of high school it was not appreciated at all. Yeah, that shit flopped Because I don't remember and that got no cred either. It came out and nobody gave a fuck and I was surprised. Them books were popular but then nobody cared. Nobody cared, nobody cared. And it sucks because John did a really good part in that movie and it took away. What was his name? Crowley Crowley yeah, I don't remember random ass names.
Speaker 2:It's that encyclopedia Crepsley. It says Crepsley.
Speaker 1:Something like that yeah, I know what you, oh Vampire, you're talking about fucking Zerk. The Freak Budget was $40 million, made $39.2. Oh, so it didn't even Nope. I really would have liked a sequel, though, because the story was interesting enough. You had the war between two friends taking opposite sides. That was kind of where this movie led up to. It was a prophecy that was never fulfilled entirely. They were going to make 12 movies out of that. I didn't expect 12 movies.
Speaker 2:I expected maybe three.
Speaker 1:There were 12 books. I only said 2 at best. I mean you gotta be like the book series to get every one of your fucking get a movie for every book. Harry Potter, I'm just laughing. Every single book movie. They did confirm Black Snake, by the way. So stupid, mm-hmm Harry Potter. Black Snake, by the way, so stupid, mm-hmm Harry Potter. There was a Harry Potter reference, do they do? I can't say shit, because it was JK Rowling and she herself is weird. Like you can agree with her on things. Then she says some weird-ass shit, just like why did you say that? I think you're all in Agree with her or not. She can say whatever the fuck she wants, damn near, because she don't give a fuck. I got money, she could care less, because I want to say the time period in which her books take place wouldn't really fit. That, especially where it is, wouldn't fit. But then I'm like you know, england has black people too. I gotta realize that you're a wizard, harry harry potter episode.
Speaker 1:I don't know many black guys that get rejected, like that.
Speaker 2:Not in Snape's character anyway.
Speaker 1:No, and fawn over the girl for the rest of her life. The guy who voices fucking Miles Morales, though.
Speaker 2:He wants to fight Josh. Allen Good luck with that. You're going to die. I had that out of my head forever.
Speaker 1:Next Six, oh six what?
Speaker 2:do you?
Speaker 1:got. Oh okay, my oldest boy, my oldest boy on here From 1985. Fright Night, fuck. I just rewatched it.
Speaker 1:I forgot about that I rewatched it a couple nights ago Fucking great and it's so fucking funny. It's charming. When I was talking about vampire portrayals of vampires, like I was talking about Remick and Sinners, the vampire's name in that is Jerry Dandridge and that is just one of my goaded vampire fucking charming, charismatic, pretty as all hell. It's like that's a fucking vampire. I just realized my one, two and three are not on his list. That's what I it was, so it was just bringing back. I was like I want to sit down with Jay and rewatch Fright Night Because I'm like Jay would appreciate this too, because there's so many, I remember there's so many, I forgot about it. It's about a kid who sees Jerry Dandridge Move in next door and he's doing vampire shit. He sees him biting women Through a window and doing vampire shit. He's like, hey, there's a vampire next door. He goes and tells the cops that they don't believe him.
Speaker 1:So, he goes to the TV vampire hunter who believes in vampires. He's like what the fuck do you mean a real vampire? It's just funny, it's serious, but it's so funny and wacky at the same fucking time. It's that 80s charm. It's that 80s shit man. Like when they're trying to get his friends to go over there and try to get him to help.
Speaker 1:they're like well I have an honorable mention that I have to bring up after you're done doing that, jesus Christ, and it should have been on my list. They try to get the vampire hunter to go help him, and his girlfriend at times is like will you help us? No, I'm leaving town, I'm not helping. No, no, I have five. What if we pay? How much? That was done. That took me out. What were you saying? Now, they did that in this movie. How much? How much are you talking? Cornbread, his wife.
Speaker 2:How much she's going to regret that now.
Speaker 1:I have an honorable mention because of that movie now and it just made me remember it. It is a guilty pleasure of mine. Jim Carrey movie.
Speaker 1:Oh God Once bitten, what the fuck it's about this female vampire who has to find a virgin boy to suck on slash. Fuck, I guess. What made you think of that one from Fright Night You're old, older, older and the fact that you brought up that they see a vampire next door. He had no clue she was a vampire. She was just hitting on him, got bit, didn't know he was turning into a vampire. The funny thing about Fright Night is that's one I don't know how big Matt is on watching older movies, but that's one Matt would like. I can almost guarantee Matt would like it. I mean, one Spittin' was campy as hell. Fright Night was a little campy too. There's a couple vampire movies that I should have watched. Fright Night is one of them. You know what it is, though there's two other movies that I should have watched I can't totally recommend One Spitten.
Speaker 1:There are two other major vampire movies.
Speaker 2:One thing about Fright Night, it's very Teen Wolf.
Speaker 1:One thing about Fright Night, though, a little quick thing it actually had a 2011 remake that actually fans of the original really appreciated, because Colin Farrell played Jerry Dandridge In that one and Colin Farrell did great. Colin Farrell does great with almost everything he does now. No, that's the one I didn't watch 2011. The fucking, they remade Fright Night and people liked it, just like they liked the original, and the guy who directed the original Fright Night was the guy who did Child's Play so shit. His name's Tom Holland.
Speaker 1:Yeah funny, but not the Tom Holland we all think of. Okay, fright Night. Oh, we're starting again. Fright Night's the beginning of my heavy hitters. I really love Fright Night. Where are we starting? Oh, yeah, we're getting there. Now, boy, my next one's Blade the Daywalker the Daywalker. Blade 1 is my number. You're actually going to say you're not no franchise rule, just Blade the first one. Blade's the only other one that I have a multiple. I have Blade 2 still on here, but you like Blade 2 more than what I like the villain better in 2. 2 is the one with the older vampire, right, the vampire king or some shit.
Speaker 2:No, that's 3.
Speaker 1:Him fighting Dracula is 3. 1 is his most known enemy. I just kind of enjoyed two plotline more than I enjoyed one plotline. Blade 1 still has one of the best opening sequences ever, though. Yep, I can still listen to that song on repeat Now. I already know Matt's best favorite opening sequence is probably Deadpool Wolverine. Now it's gotta be yeah. But when he hears the song he's probably thinking of you, son of a bitch.
Speaker 2:It was classic.
Speaker 1:It's in my tops. It's in my tops. I can't, I can't. I love Deadpool 1 intro too Good morning If I think of any of my friends that could potentially be in a boy band he's the only one that popped in my head.
Speaker 2:Don't wake up.
Speaker 1:Well, get your true religion in all that. He's also the only person I know that would start an OnlyFans. What's your point? Yeah, but he's not going to start it without pressure, under pressure, under pressure.
Speaker 2:No, you had to. Yeah, but he's not going to start it without pressure, under pressure.
Speaker 1:Under pressure, pushing that, no, you had to get to that line before you were like no, no, next Blood rain. Wow, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised to hear that from you. No, no. I did like the games too, voice by. I'm not the one who remembers that shit like that. Do I recognize the voice? Yes, but I don't recognize. Well, I know their voices, come on, but the names themselves of the voice actors I do not memorize like that.
Speaker 2:He's the one who does that, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he does it more for anime and stuff than he does for video games mostly. There's only one game I know of that he does the voice actor thing for, and that's freaking Metal Gear. David Hayter, david Hayter. Let's see here. Do I need to say more on Blood Rain?
Speaker 2:It's a female play.
Speaker 1:With more seduction, a lot of seduction, seduction, alright, it's weird. I think it involves more blood too. Next For me Yep, underworld and Nazis, nazis, underworld Again, nazis, underworld Again. The series is up and down, but it's Kate Beckinsale. I have Kate Beckinsale by us. She's got the double guns. She's a badass and I just like the concept of you got two of the most classic monsters Vampires, werewolves. How about they be fighting? And shit Hoovy. How about they be fighting? And shit Movie. How about they have an age-old, long blood feud and shit. I don't like you vampires, I don't like you werewolves. But yeah, ain't gonna go to a movie like that. Ain't gonna win no fucking Oscars, but it'll entertain you. I think that's the movie that put it in everyone's heads that vampires and werewolves don't like each other. Fuck you twilight. You just ripped underworld and I don't know. Maybe the books and I don't know. That'd be murky, you could maybe. I don't know what came first and shit, but then they did the whole underworld.
Speaker 1:Okay, because twilight did the whole twilight I know, underworld came out before the books did man? Even fucking twilight. Even twilight, when I think about they made the werewolves all pretty and majestic and shit. Why does everything gotta be pretty? There were supposed to be shapeshifters at that too.
Speaker 2:And the fucking werewolves, because they were based off of Native American lore. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's not how they were portrayed in the movie I mean Underworld. Second one I can have fun with Rise of the Lycans was me, because Kate Beckinsale wasn't barely in that bitch. Blood Ties was weird, the whole good daughter shit. There's only one movie I don't know in this top four. You're saying there's only one that I don't know. Sadly, my. It's the next one. Okay, okay, probably, probably. I had to look. He's expecting the other ones.
Speaker 1:Well, you already kind of told me these three are on the list. I just didn't know where they were ranked. So this is the only one I don't really know.
Speaker 2:My next one's Abigail Talked about that one enough in this podcast Surprising.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we talked. Yeah, yeah, that's my next one. What do we got for time? We good, oh, we probably good. I just like, who knows? I just like we haven't talked for an hour. This is going to probably be one of our shorter top tens.
Speaker 2:It is one of our shorter top tens, oh we fine. There ain't much to.
Speaker 1:We ain't going on as much side tannins and we're limiting our yapping about each one, and the fact that we got multiples is helping a little bit. No, because vampires fucked us. I think mythical creatures would have fucked us over more. It could have.
Speaker 2:I think there's gonna be a lot of I don't know Between me and him. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's also what You're also the differentiating on this list. I'm the repeater. Yeah, you are. That's the problem. It's going to be his new nickname for the podcast the repeater. My lists are simple. My lists are more simple than yours, don't because you're bringing in comedies. I don't have a comedy on here. Fuck you, because my next one. You've got three on there already, don't you One, two, or is this your third Three?
Speaker 2:four.
Speaker 1:Yeah, four out of the five I've said so far have. Yeah, guess what, guess what? Friday morning somebody posted on one of the things I looked like there was a list, a grid of 25 actors. If you could bring back no questions asked to a thing. Three of the first freaking names are people that I knew you would bring back. Robin Williams, he was a little bit further, but Are you kidding me? It was just a random Greg Bones.
Speaker 2:What else was on?
Speaker 1:there, john Candy. Okay, what's his name? The other fact-emitting guy that I know you like, I can't remember his name. It's escaping me at the moment. What's his name? Do you want me to get loud?
Speaker 2:Farley, yeah, chris.
Speaker 1:Farley.
Speaker 2:That guy in a little.
Speaker 1:As much as I love the guy, I couldn't bring him back. You got options of five. No, I'm just saying I couldn't bring Chris back because he was too heavily into drugs, so he probably would just break back and do it.
Speaker 1:Not to mention if I were to consult anybody, if I had the power to bring Chris back, I'd have to talk to Adam. Adam Sandler would be the guy I'd have to talk to. Hey, I got the power to bring Chris back. You want me to do it? No, no, let him rest. I'd hear that from him and I know it. But speaking of fucking comedies, since we're there, Wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Did you just go on a little mini-tandem about?
Speaker 1:actors you'd bring back and shit. Yes, he brought it up.
Speaker 2:I was thinking about you when I saw it, because it's a comedies thing John Candy, michael Clarke, duncan's very high on mine.
Speaker 1:He was on that grid too, because that's my dark side, that's always my dark side Dark Shadows. That's my number six, five, five Dark Shadows.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I lost count Four left.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a very interesting movie as far as vampires go. Nobody else turned into a vampire. Well, actually no, technically, one did. Oh wait, I know what all four of your movies are. Wait, wait, I figured it out. I figured it out. Your next one's on my list I don't think I've found a Tim Burton movie I haven't liked. I figured it out.
Speaker 1:I don't think I've found a Tim Burton movie. I haven't liked His live action ones or his stop motion CG. Anytime he's in a movie, it's not like you're not going to like it. Yes, do you remember Dark Shadows? I've heard the name. I have to Hold on. If you look it up, you know what it is Dark Shadows. Wait, is that fucking what's it? Donnie Depp.
Speaker 2:Whatever, donnie Depp, yeah, yep, I know what it is?
Speaker 1:Mistoffelees, that's what he calls McDonald's. Yep, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's McDonald's, because he's looking at the giant golden he's like Mistoffelees, it's McDonald's. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1:Yep, I like that one. It wasn't as funny as I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 2:I thought it was going to be laughing. No, it was just a fun adventure.
Speaker 1:Mistoffelees got me laughing more. Number four Mm-hmm. Now this one. Remember when you how interesting take is vampires being the virus? That's this movie. It's called Daybreakers. Oh, that's my own little mention. I completely forgot about that one. It's a mention. Oh, I was something like I might be the only one that has Daybreakers. This is just a rewatch of mine recently.
Speaker 2:Had.
Speaker 1:I taken my list more seriously, I might have made it. It was my number 10. Ethan Hawke great cast Sam.
Speaker 2:Neill the great, willem Dafoe, you don't have one of these on your list.
Speaker 1:Okay, but it's a world where vampire a bat a bat started a vampire virus and people are vampires now and they crave blood, of course. So the human population is down to like 5% and they're farming fucking humans for blood and it's just a perspective of kind of, and one of the vampires, Ethan Hawke, wants to help humans and shit because he don't drink blood. He's trying to make a synthetic.
Speaker 1:I remember it he's trying to make a synthetic blood, a proper Morbius Yep, it was just. It was a very good movie. I really liked it Very very brutal, are you? Laughing in your head because I just said it. No, Okay, and I'm fucking Willem Dafoe with a fucking crossbow. Just something clicking in my head for something we already brought up.
Speaker 1:Whenever, whenever there's a scene where he goes to meet with Willem Dafoe, he's a vampire because the sun, just the right amount of exposure to the sun, will cure you of vampirism. You become a human. That's part of the point of the thing is becoming a human again and shit, you're trying to find a cure. He's sitting behind a tree. You just hear his voice at first, willem Dafoe's. I'm like can Spider-Man come out and play? Every time he talks, I love the photo man. Every scene he's like I love the photo. Oh, come on, you love the photo too. There's only one movie he's been in.
Speaker 1:I was wondering if Matt would know that one. I was like it's newer.
Speaker 2:I think Matt would know.
Speaker 1:Daybreakers White House is the only movie he's in. I do not get.
Speaker 2:Do you see Daybreakbreak? Oh, you must have seen it if it's on your thing.
Speaker 1:Like. That movie is way above my IQ level. Sam Neill plays a good villain too. That's his top three in some order. My number four right, he's kind of got all over. I think I've got four left. Blade 2 is my number four, a little higher. Were you surprised for Daybreakers? Okay, no, daybreakers. I'm losing track of certain things. My brain's going already. But yeah, that was my own little mention. It got pushed down because of our movie. Oh, that was the number 10. Like I said, had I seen Sinners way before this list, it would have been on there. I've already stated where Sinners would be. It could be number one, honestly, but we'll see when we get there. It would have beat out my number one. We're in a very least tight end. I enjoyed my number one a lot, but I'm still going to put Sinners at one. We're in a very least tight end. I enjoyed my number one a lot, but I'm still going to put Sinners at one.
Speaker 1:I can re-watch my number one? I do. I watched my.
Speaker 2:A lot. I'm surprised I don't own it. That's the sad part. I own it, but four.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go away. I think you may have the same three, otherwise I'm going to beat you to a gun, your final gun, blade. Okay, I said it was higher, so we're not going to talk about that one more.
Speaker 2:We're going to have Dean say it one more time, scott.
Speaker 1:Best opening sequence. Best opening sequence. All right, three, three is your actual untold Okay.
Speaker 2:Oh hey, so I'm going to beat you to your final gun.
Speaker 1:Dean, I tied with you, so I'm going to jump the gun on your. I love the story of Draculence because it's because the history of vampires being tied to Vlad the Vlad Dracul is fucking great. I love that history, I love that region. Slavic over there, that's just King Slavic over there. Romania, serbia, that's King Slavic over there. If you love that they actually did. The origin, the full origin of his people, Is that One of my favorite armors I've ever seen in a movie?
Speaker 2:That red armor.
Speaker 1:The red, the dragon, the dragon. The only time I've seen something similar is the Shadow Dro armor in PG3. That armor I'm like, ooh, skyrim does a little bit good one too with Skyrim's got a.
Speaker 2:The thing, though, about that movie that I like, I played.
Speaker 1:Skyrim and I wasn't as heavy into as brutal as he was the real Vlad the Impaler. He was brutal. He impaled fuckers on stakes. He was brutal but he was just looking out for his people. He wasn't evil, but what he did created the legend of Dracula. For God's sake, the man lived his. He was sold into slavery by his dad. His dad sold him and his brother into slavery by the Turks and then after a while, he came back. This man offed his dad. He's like I'm going to lead you now and we're going to go to war with the Turks. Turks, fuck you, little ass country After learning in child soldier, slavery and all that type of shit how to be a proper soldier.
Speaker 1:That's how the Turks built up their army. They'd take people from different countries, they'd conquer and they'd turn them into soldiers. They're janissaries, where they're elite fighters. There's the word and Jay. What ethnicity was the most Janissaries? You're fucked up for that. Serbs. Fun fact your people are still bred to do that. Fun fact, I'm not. That is a fact that Serbs are your favorite people to take for to be Janissaries.
Speaker 2:Your people are still bred to do that.
Speaker 1:That's a fun fact. My grandpa told me that he even started the World War because of it. Is that the word you're looking for, janissary?
Speaker 2:Janissary is what I was looking for.
Speaker 1:I didn't want to say child soldier.
Speaker 2:I wanted to look for child janissary, right, right Because.
Speaker 1:I say the word child soldier. I'm just happy even Matt had that one on his, because the monster verse kind of failed. I think that's an underappreciated movie. I really like that movie. Who's the Luke Evans? Is it Luke Evans? I like Luke Evans too. Guston, he's live-action, guston Gaston yeah, I like the.
Speaker 2:I didn't watch it, that whole movie, though no.
Speaker 1:That whole movie. He refrains Don't drink blood. If you don't drink blood, the vampire's curse won't take effect. You'll be fine. But he has to bite her at the end to become a vampire and say ah, no, to save everyone. So I believe my number three is jumping the gun a little bit for him. Not sure if it's on your list, though 30 days of night Nope. Okay.
Speaker 1:My three tied with him, so I don't even have to say it. Yeah well, I didn't know if it was your one or two. I know it's his one or two. No, my number two is going to get some shit from him. Not surprised. No, because he wasn't In his clarification of a vampire movie. He wouldn't put it in. Huh, it's not. Wait my number two, We'll wait.
Speaker 1:You can say yours first, is it your number two? My number two, from Dusk Till Dawn. It's his number one. I'm assuming he's a knight. We'll see what's your number two there, sir, what was yours? You were Dracula, until. That's why we kind of okay, yeah we me look at that one.
Speaker 1:So my number two previous number one is the Monsterverse, without being a Monsterverse, ben Hussling, god damn it. It's in my honorable mention. I told you why I'm like you said it wasn't on your list so I knew it was. It was honorable mention Overall movie it's probably I like it better than some of the movies that are on my list, but full-blown. I know vampires were the main villains, but Frankenstein was in there and werewolves.
Speaker 2:Frankenstein was a good guy.
Speaker 1:I know Frankenstein's a good guy, the way he was conceived was great.
Speaker 2:He needs a modern remake. He really does. It needs a modern remake.
Speaker 1:The best part of that movie for me was the werewolf transformation. That was the one part of the CGI that actually looked good. All the other parts of the CGI looked the babies. The babies need an update. I mean, just the female vampires flying needed an update, oh God. When did that movie come out? That didn't need an update.
Speaker 2:That is Beckinsale, that is Beckinsale. When did that movie come?
Speaker 1:out that didn't need an update, no, that is Beckinsale Kate Beckinsale?
Speaker 2:When did Van?
Speaker 1:Helsing come out. That's early 2000s, lloyd. That's early 2000s, jesus.
Speaker 2:That was thousands.
Speaker 1:Why do we feel old saying that that's early 2000s 2004.
Speaker 2:Woo.
Speaker 1:Jay's like fuck, he's broken thinking about it. Oh no, because that makes a little sense. Directed by Stephen. Oh my god, what A 2004 movie. Had a 160 million dollar budget, but it, it probably. How much money did it make? It probably flopped it, flopped it, it flopped. It definitely flopped. It's kind of sad actually. No, it made money. It probably broke even $300 million.2.
Speaker 2:The funny thing about that.
Speaker 1:And it cost $160, you're pretty close to breaking even the funny thing about that, though I like their concept. You know the Abraham Van Helsing guy that's in the Dracula movie. That's kind of just the guy in a suit giving them knowledge. Let's make him a badass vampire hunter with weapons. When you got them little disc saw things I'm like.
Speaker 1:Dude, I haven't used that movie Movie based on Dracula, frankenstein and the Wolfman Van Helsing. They took in all three books. I like the no. I love the opening. I swear to God it was Jekyll and Hyde. He was hunting. Yeah, in the opening I love it's Jekyll and Hyde. Fuck, I could have put that movie in there Technically got vampires in it. Thanks for that League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Extraordinary.
Speaker 2:Got vampires in it. The one that had big ties to fucking.
Speaker 1:what's his name? The portrait Dorian Gray. That's technically a vampire movie. I wish I wasn't so bad with names. I can't remember His name's always fucked me.
Speaker 2:Number one, Dean.
Speaker 1:I gotta talk about two. It's from Dusk Till Dawn. That's true. I said what it was, but you didn't talk about it. I don't have to yet much. It's an adrenaline movie. You watched that movie? Yeah, I thought we talked about From Dusk Till Dawn. Enough, I'm not going to talk about. Salma Hayek too much.
Speaker 1:But, you said, the name was said and it got me off into imagination land for a second. But it starts off as a fucking goddamn heist movie. And they go to this fucking bar and shit. You got Cheech Marin fucking at the door with we got this pussy, we got that pussy, we got all the kinds of pussy and shit. I'm sitting there dying from that shit. Then they're in there chilling. Next thing everybody turns into fucking vampires. I'm like what the fuck movie am I watching? What the fuck?
Speaker 2:I like it, but what the?
Speaker 1:fuck and they kill Quentin Tarantino no, tarantino's dead and he licked his foot first and Dwayne's dad, yep. And yes, it has to be said that that is Salma Hayek's most iconic scene ever in a movie. That movie is just like it is. You think, salma Hayek, you just for dust of time? Damn. Well, no, thanks to you. Now, when I think of Salma Hayek, I'm thinking Magic Mike. Oh, that's unfortunate, it is kind of unfortunate.
Speaker 2:Who's the main besides Terrence, I think I hit a man's bodyguard before I even tried to think of it.
Speaker 1:No, the only reason I think it is is because I can actually see her moving that way. Who was the opposite of Tarantino? Clooney? I think it was George Clooney, wasn't it? Yep, george Clooney. It's the way she moves. It got deemed by the movie. For fuck's sakes, he makes the excuse I bought that for your mother to watch. No, you didn't. No, you didn't, you didn't. It's a classic. It's a classic. The only part that threw me off is Salma Hayek, when she morphs into a vampire. It's like ah shit, you're ugly, why'd you do that? No, your ass would have been smoky Put it on the bag, put the bag on.
Speaker 1:It was like fucking. It was like fucking Ragnarok over again. Take the helmet off. Okay, I hated that helmet, hated it. You remember me in the whole movie.
Speaker 2:All off in his decal Careful.
Speaker 1:She wants to retire. No, no, no, cate Blanchett, we need you. She can't do it, okay, oh well, give her some movies where she's just cameoing and she doesn't have to do a whole lot of work Okay. What was? Wait, I said from Dusseldorf Did Jake give his number? Two.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You did?
Speaker 2:What was it I tied with him? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. I was wondering, if that Okay.
Speaker 2:That housing.
Speaker 1:That's why I said shit. I've only had two, not tied Three, three ties. They've been a little I actually was doing really well. I think They've been a little more different than I thought. What helped was Daybreakers, not Matt cutting Daybreakers. You have actually been the star Having Daybreakers.
Speaker 2:As far as lists, I've seen a lot of Vampire movies, but Daybreaker him cutting Daybreakers.
Speaker 1:As far as lists, I've seen a lot of vampire movies, but Daybreaker him cutting Daybreakers helped a little bit. I am probably the most out there list Because you got the comedies Alright, number one Mine. Yeah, I'd wrap it up in 14 minutes, oh, 30 Days a Night, as figured. Okay, quite literally the most barbaric vampire movie I have ever fucking seen.
Speaker 2:Them fucking things. Yeah, I don't want to be caught in fucking Alaska. Them things are fucking scary.
Speaker 1:Holy shit, them fucking things. I seen that really young them motherfuckers just staring at that boat and shit. And they're living in that frozen boat and shit.
Speaker 2:Wait, did they?
Speaker 1:have yellow glowing eyes in them.
Speaker 2:Not really that boat, and shit.
Speaker 1:And then, fucking, they're living in that frozen boat and, shit wait, did they have yellow, glowing eyes? Not really, they were just I think their eyes were black. I think damn near that's what it was.
Speaker 1:It was straight black jet black and that motherfucker always plays the villains in there and he's just like, oh no, you just exist to be our food. I'm like bro, fuckers were evil man and I'm like, I'm in, I'm in, Like it's barbaric. They just like ten of them are just chomping on people. I'm like remember I seen that really young, so that's an impressionable movie. Like fuck, dude. Speaking of impressionable movies, you're going to understand my number one. We even talked about it at work Like holy shit, and there was good action and it was Josh Hartnett. They'll do shit no more. No, no, he's making his comeback now because now he's been in Oppenheimer. He just did Trap and now he's getting his airplane movie. He's getting an action airplane movie. I love how Matt's not disagreeing when I'm saying how barbaric and gruesome that fucking movie is.
Speaker 2:I was leaving it for you to talk about, To use your term every movie on your list has kind of been a banger.
Speaker 1:Not Queen of Damn, ain't no banger, that's just sexy. That's just sexy. Okay, and guys movies, guys movie. But Jesus Christ, we don't need to talk about number one. We spent 45 minutes on it. I forgot the bald guy. I like the bald vampire in 30 Days of Night 2. He don't say shit he literally just fuck. Whatever number one was, it's there. You remember the bald? It's a better movie, plot-wise, than Van Helsing. What do you want from me?
Speaker 1:You remember the bald guy in 30 Days, the bald vampire in 30 Days of Night. That don't really say shit. He'd just be staring at motherfuckers like they're food and shit. Van Helsing didn't have a story, it was a culmination of every story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do appreciate those, I know.
Speaker 1:That's why I like the League of Gentlemen. So much, jay's going to take a trip to Alaska. Oh, we got a nice little Alaskan fishing village.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not going there during the fucking winter.
Speaker 1:There's just a boat that's in cave over there. You're like I'm gone. They probably have vampires in there you.
Speaker 2:I'm gone. They probably vampires in there, you should check that shit out.
Speaker 1:No, them fuckers are fast too. I've never seen vampires haul ass. Germany. I'm not going to Europe at all because of you. Vampires be walking, sometimes walking slow and ominous, or they be teleporting, it don't matter them fuckers in three days' night, just haul ass. They just haul ass and fly and shit. It's like bro, fuck this dog, I don't want to be laying there half alive. I got ten of them. Fucking. Fuck that You're still alive while they're eating you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like ah. Well they're not eating, they're just drinking my blood.
Speaker 1:It's like fuck, fuck. He said his number one, did you hear it? What was it? He's still on barbarianism, barbarianism. I'm done. Now I'm off. We don't need to talk about my number one. We spent 45 minutes on it, sinners. Oh, I should have known that already. I was part of the fucking. I'd known that already. He was saying the whole time it was gonna go to one. So I pretty much it took one for him, my one. I'm curious if you even remember when I said it. Oh, it worked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talked about it. Lost, boys Yep.
Speaker 1:That was one that I knew was good and haven't watched yet. It was tied with Fright Night and I was like I had it tied with Fright Night. I was like, yeah, I'm going to leave it, I'll let Jay get it. The other one is Interview with a Vampire, tom Cruise that is the original Interview with a Vampire. Queen of the Damned is a sequel to that. Technically, interview with the Vampire is Queen of the Damned are Anne Rice books. It's the Vampire Chronicles. They're books, the main.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't have thought that at all.
Speaker 1:The character in Interview with a Vampire that Tom Cruise plays, Lestat. He's the vampire in Queen of Damned, but it don't follow the books very much. Well, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Just because a vampire has a similar name I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1:fucking. Lost Boys has what I call impressionalism. I watched this movie just because I'm sitting there with my mom and it's something that's hot. But it has this type of story that just draws you in because there are relatable kids in there and they're dealing with these situations that you yourself never feel you would ever be in. And then they add in this whole I don't want to say horror aspect of it, but it does get kind of. I don't want to say horror aspect of it, but it does get kind of. I don't want to say Not gory, gory's not the word I'm looking for, we're okay, horror.
Speaker 2:It does get a horror vibe to it.
Speaker 1:The vampires are trying to lead him into doing all these things. Yeah, A young Kiefer Sutherland. He's the main vampire and the leader in our little group. It's one of the main reasons I want the pop where he's got the noodle peck One little snippet. I do gotta say on this last little thing Out of all the movies I said, vampire movies are meant to be horror movies.
Speaker 1:None of these scared me. The only one that gave me to creeps was 30 Days of Night. Fuck, dude, that's the only one. God damn these fucking things. I can tell you, none of the movies on my list creeped me out. 30 Days of Night. If you watch that young, it's like God. The whole town we know Alaska's got them long-ass nights and shit 30 days a night. No, fuck that dog. I'd go out Fucking. Eat me bro. Fuck this shit. I'm not dealing with this stress for a month. Fuck that. The only movie I can compare Lost Boys to is another one of my mom's favorites. What mom's favorites? What the fuck is the movie with the greasers? Grease, Grease, Not grease. The Outsiders, Outsiders. Why am I just pulling these movies out my ass, please? This is the reason why I direct it towards him.
Speaker 2:The Outsiders. The Outsiders Do you know the?
Speaker 1:Outsiders cast. You got Patrick Swayze. Rest in peace young. Ralph Macchio and that bitch Emilio Estevez, young Tom Cruise, it's the fucking cast Matt.
Speaker 2:Dillon, it's like that same kind of vibe and genre, but it's vampires, I read the book in high school.
Speaker 1:How did I SC Hinton? You know how they say required reading, never read. But I was still surprised. I didn't even read To Kill a Mockingbird.
Speaker 1:My school is a big requirement of mine. A lot of kids read Great Gatsby in mine and you guys said we didn't read Gatsby, but a lot of people read Great Gatsby in mine. I read Call of the Wild. Those were one of the other ones I read Okay, in elementary school it was Call of the Wild I. I read Outsiders in elementary school. It piqued my interest. In high school I got like Frankenstein and Gulliver's Tribals and all that stuff. I would have loved that. That was high school. You know what my elementary school books were Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. More Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. Even more Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. That's kind of sad.
Speaker 2:you still only got one movie in that.
Speaker 1:They confirmed a sequel. I one movie of that they confirmed a sequel. I don't know when it's going to come, but they confirmed one. I love that movie. We better wrap it up.
Speaker 2:Do we have anything to say?
Speaker 1:No, I don't even know what our next episode is. Thunderbolts Is it Thunderbolts? Thunderbolts, which Matt could have to bring up some Marvel criteria. We dapped about Daredevil already. Unless we record a D&D session, it's Thunderbolts. I'm not recording a D&D session, oh come on Never. I don't even have to pause it when JJ goes out. We still yap. Never gonna happen. It's like we still yap, we still fucking yap. Well, so the only thing we have for our fans if we have any the Philippines to look forward to is the Thunderbolts and Harry Potter will happen at some point, not anymore.
Speaker 1:Why not anymore? You're still teasing him. Oh, now he's done Potter will happen at some point, not anymore why? Not anymore. You're still teasing him. Now he's done. No more Harry Potter. He watched Harry Potter and then he's like no, are we doing this? Are we doing this? No, killed it, I was ready. No, he's the boy who lived. Depends on which mythos you're believing in. It's Harry Potter, he lived. Harry Potter, he lived.
Speaker 2:Harry Potter.
Speaker 1:Alright folks, alright folks, we're calling it here, Calling it. Have a good night. Matt's dying on us anyway. Literally he just went quiet, the silence. Have a good night, everybody. I've always been dead inside.
Speaker 2:Aww.
