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Superman's Rebirth featuring Krypto
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James Gunn's Superman resurrects the heart and soul of DC's most iconic hero, striking a perfect balance between small-town humanity and cosmic superhero adventure. David Corenswet breathes fresh life into the Man of Steel, embodying both the godlike power and humble Kansas upbringing that defines Clark Kent's dual nature.
The film centers on Superman three years into his heroic journey, still finding his footing in Metropolis while juggling his life as reporter Clark Kent. When Nicholas Holt's brilliantly unhinged Lex Luthor creates Ultraman—a twisted clone of Superman—the hero must confront not just a physical equal, but questions about his own identity and purpose. What makes Superman heroic isn't his extraordinary abilities, but the very human values instilled by Jonathan and Martha Kent, portrayed with authentic warmth as the emotional anchor of the story.
What sets this Superman apart is its willingness to embrace both spectacle and intimacy. Explosive action sequences where Superman battles his doppelganger stand alongside quiet moments at the Kent family farm. The Justice Gang—featuring Mr. Terrific, Guy Gardner, Hawks Girl, and Metamorpho—provides perfect comic relief and expands the DC universe without overshadowing the main character. Meanwhile, the chemistry between Superman and Lois Lane forms the emotional backbone of the narrative, reminding us that even gods need human connection.
Visually stunning and emotionally resonant, Superman captures the essence of hope that has made this character endure for nearly a century. The film doesn't shy away from Superman's extraordinary nature, but it understands that his greatest power has always been his humanity. For longtime fans and newcomers alike, this is the Superman we've been waiting for—a beacon of light in an often dark world.
What's your favorite moment from Superman? Share your thoughts and join the conversation about the bright future of DC's new cinematic universe!
hello all, welcome to the night falls. Well podcast. Superman review. Slash DC revival edition to rebirth. Whatever you want, rebirth, we don't need to bring it up again. Well, not if you do. We don't have a giant blue monster swinging his dick around Dr Matt. Well, I have no idea everyone's opinion of the movie, but I will say I his dick around Dr man. Well, I have no idea everyone's opinion of the movie, but I will say I, me and you, loved it.
Speaker 1:We want to hear your gripes. I loved it because that did, because so far we figure you're the only one with gripes. Ryan probably has a couple, but I would. That was a good movie. I sat there thinking I think Ryan would like this. There were problems. There were problems.
Speaker 1:Shoot, he probably wrote a list. He always writes a list what it's got a paragraph on it. I mean most of these weren't necessarily stuff. I noticed they were also internet gripes. Oh, the internet, he does that a lot, but it't necessarily stuff. I noticed they were also internet gripes. Oh, he does that a lot, but it's nice, we can get our opinion on internet gripes. I mean the result there's always going to be a war on James Gunn's humor. Yeah, I thought you had a problem with Black Dynamite.
Speaker 1:Mr Terrific was legendary. Fucker was awesome. Especially, his name is Crypto. Don't start fencing, dude. I thought he was cowering because the dog was coming running towards him. That floored me. I was like don't do that stereotype, please don't do that stereotype. Oh, he's going after the ball. Good, he's going after the ball. The Crypto was a change to a degree because it did change the breed. They wanted it to be its own crypto. Yeah, that little stuff, I won't say. He's also always been more relatively well-mannered. In most of his adaptations he was more well-mannered.
Speaker 1:This one was raised by a drunk Supergirl, so it's understandable. Which is a Supergirl we're also not experienced with. No, we are what? Red Sun Supergirl? She wasn't drunk, she was just rageful. That's kind of different. Again, you, you, female, you, oh, you, okay, female, you, oh.
Speaker 1:I was like huh, I thought the humor was balanced. Well, there was a lot of I got all. If I got feels moments, then it's. I know James Gunn would put his humor in there. I knew he would, but I got the feels. I got some feels moments. Out of that, I got plenty. What else we got? That was where a lot of it was going. Was it too humorous? Yeah, that was that. It didn't feel too humorous to me. No, to me it felt like it had just the right amount For Superman. Yeah, to me it felt like it had just the right amount For Superman, yeah, yeah, the biggest issue that I'm always going to have is whether Jonathan Kent the Jonathan Kent being alive.
Speaker 1:That one is always a little if and or, because you can always go one of two ways, but most of the time he's usually dead. He's dead by the time. He's, at least mostly into Superman For most adaptations, but there are ways you can do it for both, so that one wasn't really. They gave you a timeline at the beginning of the movie. He's officially been Superman for three years. Usually Jonathan Kent's dead by now In most adaptations.
Speaker 1:Dude, why do you want to kill off Pa? I'm not saying you should do it, I'm saying it's way he can have parents. What the hell, man? It's just usually Martha. Fuck you for that, martha. He did that during the movie and I hit him. His parents were amazing. Those actors did great. I love them. Those were Kansas parents, right there. That's what that was. I'll get your boots. Pa said just the right words to remind him of who he was.
Speaker 1:And I understand now the controversial thing they did with Jor-El, even though I'm like that took me from. Like you made Jor-El. It's not my favorite adaptation of Jor-El. No, I don't know if Russell Crowe's my favorite Jor-El. I'm hoping they don't do the Doomsday Clock variation of Jor-El, because that's the only variation that I know of that said something like that. Hmm, to my remembrance slash knowledge Speaking of which, we do have a guest on the podcast.
Speaker 1:We didn't really announce that at the beginning. Yes, we did. We invited another DC stand, mr Ryan. Hello, it's another DC, it's another DC opinion. So I was like, yes, and the lights go on as soon as we introduce him. Both the darkness with the DC Universe, or at least the old DC Universe. Oh, hey, hey, hey. James Gunn turned the lights on with this one.
Speaker 1:We're going to have tones for each hero. Culp with Superman that is his personification. We definitely got that. Outulp was Superman that is his personification. We definitely got that out of the super. Here's how I described it when me and Dean were talking, because we didn't go as a group this time. This Superman personified everything human about him, whereas Cabal Superman was just god mode, super fuck things up kind of guy.
Speaker 1:I do not disagree with his thing. That is a preference thing. I still prefer Cavill slightly, even though I like Corn. He loves the aura, I love the human. He hated me because in rankings I put so far because he's only had one fucking movie and it's kind of hilarious that they each only have one really relatively solo movie.
Speaker 1:I can't even do that because Cavill got a solo movie, man of Steel, yeah, and then every other movie afterwards is a team-up movie. It was solo slash, not solo. So it kind of sucks. It's sort of solo. I would count it as solo Because they didn't really have the Justice group, the Justice Gang yeah, that's a cool name You're in. That's a cool name You're in, that's a cool name You're in. It wasn't really that much of a group thing. So there were side characters. I would, I would too. It showed other characters like Mr Terrific was the one that they showed the most. That's Black Dynamite. I'm going to continue saying that. That's who that was to me, every scene he was in, especially when he was dancing while fighting. Yeah, that choreograph was just fucking amazing.
Speaker 1:Anyway, between their solo movies, I view James Gunn's version higher than Cavill's and he's like hold that sack of shit. I worship Cavill Superman Just because it's Cavill, no I like. The thing is, cavill wasn't Cavill until after that movie. That was his second movie I ever saw him in. He was still Cavill. Wasn't Cavill until after that movie. That was his second movie I ever saw him in. He was still Cavill. I'm surprised.
Speaker 1:This is only the second movie that I've seen Cornswede in. First one was Pearl. The second movie I've seen Cornswede in First one was Twisters. Yeah, he was in there, okay. So, third, I forgot he was in there, he? So, third, I forgot he was in there. He doesn't have a big, big role. Wait, he wasn't a guy that died at the beginning, was he? No, he was the teammate of Anthony Ramos Once they changed organizations. Yeah, let's see. So we're talking about Superman a little bit.
Speaker 1:I like the interpretation too, that is, there's not really a wrong answer. Who you prefer? I think with Corn Sweat and Cavill, no, you, corn Sweat could. No, I don't think so, because I love Cavill a lot, neither. But I do like Corn Sweat a lot.
Speaker 1:Neither version of Superman was wrong. I just prefer it's different aspects. I love the human aspect too. That's why I like Corn Sweat. But I also like the edginess that Cavill was. He wasn't.
Speaker 1:A lot of people's issue with Superman is A lot of people. That's what you're here for. A lot of people's issue with Superman is the ultimate Boy Scout thing. They don't like the Boy Scout thing. Corn Sweat was kind of a Boy Scout. Cavill was not a Boy Scout. Well, here's the thing he was fictitiously a Boy Scout because he was basically surviving on his own. For how fucking long? I've watched it, re-watched it last night to try and Cavill's a man of steam. That's why he wasn't a Boy Scout. He didn't actually grow up in Kansas, he grew up in Antarctica. Son of an ass Sounds like a hole.
Speaker 1:So what do we think of the Justice Gang? I thought they were good for that point. Okay, everybody that was on that Hall of Justice mural I want to show up at some point. I don't even remember the mural. It's because it flashed by like that. The only reason I know of it is because somebody on TikTok decided to pause the movie and take a picture of it for everyone to see. There's Dr Fate Wildcat. There's a lot of people, be Wanna Beast, yeah, okay, they have quite a few of the Justice Society. That's awesome. I really miss that. And let me quote Hawkgirl Screech. That threw me off the entire fucking movie.
Speaker 1:For some reason she said she was pulling inspiration from the Justice League cartoon the voice actor that did that show, and I could hear it in her voice. But once that screech happened I was like what the fuck? All I heard when she was doing it was the heartbeats from Baldur's Gate. That's all I heard. I never gave him a chance to screech. I do want more, though, but there's also a little bias. I love that actress. That is Lola Isabella. Yeah, you're like the last of us Law. There's the. I know that's the one. Yeah, she was also in Madame Web. She's been in so much already. What franchise can she be part of next, next to Star Wars? That's all about the movie.
Speaker 1:Well, you know who also I ended up liking, just because he was a joke character, for no reason at all. Nothing like his comic counterpart, in my opinion. Metamorpho he was great. Yep, kryptonite. I was like where's Kryptonite going to come? There it is. He's not anything like his comic book counterpart, because they kind of just threw him there for his start. Yep, I highly doubt we're going to get the Red Hood and the Outlaws type of storyline when Metamorpho, clayface and a bunch of the old villains come together. Yeah, I was just looking it up, but there is in Comic Con I don't remember which one where Mr Terrific and Metamorpho were on the same team too.
Speaker 1:I've heard of it, I remember it. I can't remember the fucking name. No, it escapes me. I thought I would hate Guy Gardner and I, like Guy Gardner. It's hard to hate Nathan Fillion in general at this point. That's fair.
Speaker 1:The internet pissed me off. How have you ever heard of Mr Terrible? No, well, it's a show that was on way back when, and Nathan Fillion, neil Patrick Harris and I forget her fucking name. Wait, have you never heard of Buffy the Bellfire Sing along? Nathan Fillion was on there. Forget her fucking name. Wait, have you never heard of Buffy the Bellfire? Yeah, nathan Fillion was on there as Captain Hammer, captain Hammer, and he did this singing thing, and every mannerism was just Guy Garger. It's here's what you know Every time. You want to be right, guy? I think that's the name Mr Terrible, mr Terrible, mr Terrible. Yeah, mr Terrible. It was an unlocked memory.
Speaker 1:Thanks to TikTok, I had one of the songs on my iPod. Really, which one? It's not Mr Terrible. That's why I'm not recognizing it, dr Terrible, dr Horrible. Hor's why I'm not recognizing it Dr Terrible, dr Horrible, horrible, fuck. Yes, jamie, just messed up a name. I live in an alternate universe. Yes, I know this one. Hey, man, if I don't get the name exactly right, you should still have some wires crossing in your brain. Yeah, I didn't watch it, but I know what it is. You should watch it. I know what it is.
Speaker 1:I liked when Superman was going through a little state and he's yapping with Lois and Justice Gang's fighting that nymph in the background. You just see the back. Thank you for that. How'd you like that, matt? That's an interdimensional nymph. They can handle it. I did like it. Mr McPicklick, mr Mixpicklick, yeah, how did you like that? That fucking bang in the.
Speaker 1:James Gunn answered what other superheroes are doing while others are all fighting shit While having a serious conversation. Yep, everybody else is fighting shit. What was Spider-Man doing in New York while Daredevil's fighting in his? What the fuck is going on? Oh, he's probably just in his living room enjoying a hot cocoa, chatting with his girlfriend. That doesn't remember who he is. Yeah, hey, he might have a new one. It's his high hopes. It's gonna be Black Cat, that fucking bat, that fucking bat. Background was fucking. That bat was great. It's just slowly coming down on us too, and Dunn just pans back and it's like you just see all that going on in the back while they're having their fucking.
Speaker 1:Just another day in Metropolis you got rifts opening one day, you got kaijus the other day, then you got fucking nymphs. What was that issue for you? What? Following the comic, there's always something going on and then people are just like oh shit, here we go again. It was very comic-y and I loved it, especially the fact that Superman, we can find another way and then they just kill the kaiju anyway.
Speaker 1:There's a writer's problem in it, but I won't delve into that because I'm not enough of a writer to explain it. What problem? That would require a context video to show you to understand what I'm talking about. Oh god, it's deep. It's deep.
Speaker 1:The best way I can describe it is through transitions in a movie, your plot point shouldn't be read as and then this happens, and then this happens, and then this happens, and that happened a lot in this movie. It's supposed to be. This happened. Therefore, this happened. That's a writer's critique of it. So that was all, lex. It was explained.
Speaker 1:But the transitional points of letting the no, it did that fucking before and after thing and then he's all of a sudden a gigantic tall. It's transitions like that. Well, you want to do him? Explain how the fuck him eating shit made him huge. Yes, boom, I mean he's a kaiju. They literally just said he's gonna get bigger. Boom, I mean. They literally just said he's gonna get bigger. Yeah, he's gonna get bigger. I guess I'm not the one to explain how it's supposed to be working. I'm just saying that is a writer's critique. So we oh well, his name was brought up, so we should talk about Lex. Lex has been Holtz.
Speaker 1:Lex has been divisive not divisive, but talked about a lot. I thought he was pretty good. That's divisive. There's some people I don't like about him. I've seen some that don't like him, but I thought he was pretty good. He delivered on everything except for his voice. Everyone wants Lex to have a little more growth. It was too high-pitched for me and it was sad because he had every mannerism down. That's fine, especially his speech at the end. You know what my favorite thing was when he kept dropping the pens, pick that up, since we brought up the two man of Steel versus.
Speaker 1:I thought he was a better villain than Zod. Zod I can see the aspects of, I can agree. I thought Zod was thrown in way too quickly when it came to Cavill. Yeah, as I told Jay last time, I'm more of a fist like fighting villain kind. Lex is more of a brain guy unless he's in his battle armor. But I do understand that. I don't disagree. That's just like a.
Speaker 1:Well, you got your clone. Yeah, I got Bizarro Damn, near Almost kind of Bizarro. And for Zod being thrown in early, he's a big enough villain where you knew that was going to be a villain, where you wanted. And also you spent the first 15 to 20 minutes of the movie showing the Krypton backstory. If you weren't going to use him, then you weren't going to use him at all. Yeah, that's true, that's just how you wrote the story. Well, like me, a second or third, and it never got one. They gave him the god level of fight a Kryptonian.
Speaker 1:Your first movie, snyderverse, was set up to fail from the beginning, which is technically what they did for this movie. Have him fight a god first. What the hammer? Who was Ultraman, who was his clone, and me and Jay perked up when he said he's dumber than you. I'm like bizarre. You know what the internet's actually clever about. Bizarre when that mask is taken off and his hair is all long. Yeah, he's got the long hair. That's Anakin Skywalker. Wow, that's just corn sweat with long hair. Come on, guys.
Speaker 1:Then there was the other star, the star the best boy. He's not the goodest boy. You smiled when he's just sitting there running chasing squirrels in a dream, chasing the super squirrels. You know what one of the dumbest arguments people on the internet were bashing in a dream, since in the Super Squirrels, yep, you know what one of the dumbest arguments people on the internet were bashing? Corn Sweat Superman. You should not be saying ouch when Crypto's jumping on him. Crypto's a super dog. I've heard the argument, but that's just haters. That's when people start really pulling, because they don't understand super dogs. Like Jesus, they don't understand super animals. Have you thought about it, though? For fuck's sake, jamie and Wayne's got a fat cow, who Ultraman was, though, if you, I picked up on it pretty quick when they got into the Fortress of Solid. I'm like he's got a clone. Or that's Superman's DNA. That's classic. They or that's Superman's DNA. That's classic.
Speaker 1:They spent too much time reacting like how did you get this opener door to not realize something was up. My first question when that door opened up where's the key? We're going to be more golden age. Where's the key? The key made of it opens up by his DNA. Well, that's fucking wrong.
Speaker 1:One thing I like that they did, as Lex was the main villain, but his underlings were cool too. Ultraman was cool even though he didn't talk. Jinir was actually pretty cool too, with how she fucking turned her whole body with nanites and this shit. That was cool. There was only one scene she was in that I didn't care for, and that's when she backflipped for reason and it ended up being upright. Oh yeah, I was like why the fuck would you even do that? Fucking 180 your body? Yeah, if you could already do that, I could have swore Engineer was a superhero, though I thought she was an alien Lower tier.
Speaker 1:She was like a lower tier. She was a normal person, her version. I actually just looked this up this morning. She in the comics was actually the second engineer. She inherited the title from her friend that was the engineer and died and it's all nanite technology in her bloodstream. Nope, I can't have that version. That's the movie version. That's the issue, biggest issue I'm having.
Speaker 1:It's a lower tier character. It's a character that's not like a big character. They took a smaller character and made it. That's what they did, because you got to really search, shapeshifting, advanced technology, flight control over technology force fields Through a combination of her own technological expertise and the legacy of her previous engineer. On his death he had all of his files transferred to her. Where's the previous engineer? There isn't really anything I know.
Speaker 1:Let's see what was. I'm trying to think of Villain, let's see Action sequences are all pretty good. I was entertained at. Think of villains, let's see Action sequences are all pretty good. I was entertained at all the fights. Cg was pretty good. I hope Gunn would be pretty good with CG.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, before going into it, that was the one criticism. I heard that there was parts of the CG that were bad and I didn't see. I didn't see much. I'm like, no, this looks pretty good. A parts of the CG that were bad and I didn't see. I didn't see much. I'm like, no, this looks pretty good.
Speaker 1:A lot of the stuff that looked the most weird was him flying. They still didn't fix it. Now that looked a little. That was the part where it was like something looked off slightly. It was just his head on the CG body. That's the only thing I could tell about it and that's the only problem I have. Otherwise it looked alright to me as far as final cut. Every other time he was kind of If you're just going to fucking watch the movie and you're watching it for the movie and you're not sitting there like what's wrong with this? What's wrong? Why is that off? Something in my eye is just I like that's where do you tell cgi is good or bad? It's like something looks off as I'm looking at it. I've already shown him flying around in the trailer, so it's like that doesn't look right for something. I do like that gun.
Speaker 1:Skip the origin though, and just kind of put pieces of the origin there's. There's bad with it. I know what. Do you want? Smallville again? No, there's three characters in comics. You never need to show their origin because most, even the common normies, know it Batman, superman, spider-man. You don't need to show their origins. The good news is you can expedite going into things without the simple explanations or whatever. The bad news is you don't get the character interacting with each other. Like when they threw Spider-Man into Civil War and they gave him his movie, they skipped over his origin. But he had already had two origin stories before that, so they were probably like we're not doing his origin again. There's parts you can skip, but there's also parts you should not skip.
Speaker 1:With him, like with Superman interacting with his parents, you kind of want more of that because that helps develop him as a person and gives him a little bit. They gave just enough of that. Just enough. They did it when he came back to his house or when she was speaking over the speakerphone. I loved that. I loved every bit of that. You got just enough with his parents.
Speaker 1:The one I probably have the biggest issue with is him and Lex more. So. I seriously turned to him and I was like that's my grandma right there. Well, I can see what you're saying, because the movie just started. Lex already is like I don't like you. I don't fucking like you. That one requires a little bit more backstory into how much and why he hates him. It's just like other than him just being. To be fair, even in the comic books they didn't really explain too much why Lex hates Superman. The only show to ever touch on that was Smallville. Justice League never did that and that didn't even start out bad. No, they started as friends sort of the fucked up thing. That's a lot of people's favorite Luthor, because he saved his life From Smallville. Actually, I believe he made a cameo in a movie somewhere. He was the voice of one of the Raptors, was he? Thank you, wiki, which was awesome.
Speaker 1:We haven't had a non-big-name actor not play Jor-El Fair. Who was it in Reeves? Was it Brando? Yeah, it's Mark Brando in the original, then it's Russell and now Bradley Cooper. For this one, russell, I don't remember if there was an actual. I don't remember. I'm not going to count Smallville technically. There's not as many big name actors in the show in general To begin with oh god, smallville, that's fucking the biggest actors. Not as many big name actors in the show in general to begin with oh god, smallville, that's fucking the biggest actors. Do Jonathan Kent when that show was basically being made at that time?
Speaker 1:I, uh, I like the. Not really a gripe, just a cosmetic thing. What'd you think of the suit for Cornswine? It was okay, but people might give. I still like it. I love Cavill's suit, even though everyone gives a shit for being skin-tight, wet. Yeah, no, I liked Cavill's suit. I did too. I didn't Corn Sweat's suit. It looked kind of cheap in a way.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to were going for I think they were going more for the Golden Era and it did make it look like the Golden Era. I did not hate it, I just was like huh, it looks kind of. But if they're going for that, then I understand they were kind of going for the Golden Era. Yes, I have an issue with that one. Isn't that isn't Terrence Stamp? Also the original Zod? Yeah, it was a part of the storyline. Yeah, if I remember right, they did bring people back for all of his shows because his mom is literally Lana, yeah, so let's see, she wasn't in long, but just the look.
Speaker 1:I actually love that look for Supergirl. I was like I like that. That is very comic book Supergirl. I like that. Even though she was drunk. I didn't get a good look at her costume, I just saw mostly the trench coat.
Speaker 1:What's her name? Millie Arlock? Millie Alcock, alcock? Yep, I've only ever seen her in one other thing. At this point I was like I like that, then she gets. She's in the most recent HBO Game of Thrones stuff. Oh, so I wouldn't. That would make sense why I haven't seen it. She's been in other things. That's just the only thing I've ever seen. She's younger in that too.
Speaker 1:Thanks for watching him, bitch. I don't know how to feel that. That's the first line you gave me as in Thanks for watching him. That's the iconic line he first says to me Thanks for watching him, bitch. I feel it's right in line with the villain she's going against Her first villain that we're getting in her movie not necessarily first villain, but the only villain we know about for sure is Lobo. I don't know if Lobo is the main villain, though, because on the wiki it says Momoa's going to cameo. I don't know if he's the main villain of the movie. Watch him be a part of the bar fight. Oh, if there's a bar fight, he's going to be in it. They're guaranteed.
Speaker 1:I actually thought Lobo would actually be a good villain for Supergirl, but they'll do something else. Do you think Momoa's gonna do like the macho man type voice, or is he gonna do his own thing? Well, actually, because he is Lobo. Well the thing, though, about speculating for the future Gunn don't have as much laid out. He's got Supergirl Girl. It's horrible. No, he does this on purpose and I actually kind of like it, like the fact we didn't get a fucking end credit scene. Like I said, the Supergirl introduction at the end kind of felt like the scene to me, but they didn't do an actual, legit one. But you got Supergirl on tap. Supergirl on tap. Smoothie is coming up On tap, batman Brave and the Bold somewhere.
Speaker 1:I don't even know if that has a release date yet. I do not understand that one really. No, I'm going to post a version of it. Okay, yeah, that fits. I shouldn't say that. That looks like DC. That looks like Supergirl TV show. That's pretty close. Like we said at the beginning, it was explained and I actually like Supergirl TV show. That's pretty close. Like we said at the beginning, it was explained and I actually like Supergirl TV shows. I thought Melissa Benoist was a very solid Supergirl. I'd love if she made a cameo or something Any of the Supergirl TV shows.
Speaker 1:If we ever get to Elseworlds in the show you could see Cavill again. Fair too. James Gunn already wants to recast Cavill in something. But the problem is a lot of fans are like oh no, he's gotta be Batman as a fucking ironic fucking turn. That's not who we want as Batman, though. We want Reacher. Ah shit, he does have the build, he's got the build and he's done enough Reacher, where you can see him being the detective part of it. What the hell is his name? He's gotta be the billionaire playboy Bruce, though, too, but I think he can do that. Just do we want him as another DC character? He's been two already, why not? He wants to do it. Momolo's gonna be two. Yeah, this would be Alan's third.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, the one I keep seeing now is Brandon Skelnar. I don't know who that is. I don't know what he's been in, but everything they put the Batman song from Pattinson's movie fits with everything he acts with. He looks almost like fucking Scott Eastwood. God damn it. Why Are you going emo on us? What you got to put him with the facial hair? That's where we fucking know him from. He's the love interest in drop.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, the movie we didn't see, yes, no wonder I didn't know, because the trailer ruined it for me. I hated the trailer so fucking much. You were right with us. It was so bad that damn phone viper. The problem is, the movie is actually probably decent, maybe a good. It was so bad that damn phone vibrate. The problem is, the movie is actually probably decent, maybe a good side, something to watch, but the fucking trailer.
Speaker 1:Were you the one that didn't even notice it until it was pointed out to you? What the stupid? No, I noticed that right away. The first time the trailer played, I thought it was my fucking phone. I looked at my phone for the first time it did the err, because you know I always put it on vibrate and shit, and then it just kept going. I was like this is fucking stupid. Yeah, I was talking to you about it and you said something. Was it Nate that said the trailer looked good and they didn't notice the vibrating sound. I'm just like how can you not notice this? I don't know what the fuck. It played the shit out of me every time though. Oh, it's so bad, it makes me not want to see it ever. It was a poor choice. Luckily, you may not ever have to. Good, I don't want to see the upcoming movie this week Just because there's no good movie upcoming this week.
Speaker 1:What is your new choice? Our choices are Rihanna, smurfette or I Know what you Did Last Summer Rebirth. I Know what you Did Last Summer Jennifer Love Hewitt, or, I think, hey don't forget. You also have Pretty Prince yeah, he's. I think the hey don't forget. You also have Freddy Prince yeah, he's. I think the other option is so you have Freddy from Scooby-Doo and you have Jenny, because I'm I don't have a good name for her as far as everything she's been in. I know what you did last summer. I know what you did. The other option was A tuxedo. How about that? No, the Tuxedo, like Jackie Chan's tuxedo, she was the love interest last co-worker. Yeah, that works. That works for me. The tuxedo, the robot.
Speaker 1:Movie number two I can't remember Megan, megan 2. Oh God, please, no, yeah, please, no. Force him to go to that, just so he has to listen. I didn't see one Oops, so it's even worse. See, there's a movie where I didn't mind a soundtrack being played in a movie. Oh wait, who was he? Eddington? I don't know if he's actually seen the. Me and Dean are all about the A24 movies and it's Ari Aster, the guy who did fucking Midsommar.
Speaker 1:We can go re-watch Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse, because now the new one's not coming out until 2027. They pushed back that far. Again, sony's doing their stuff. They want to make it perfect. We've got Jujutsu Kaisen movie.
Speaker 1:Go see the cash. Go see the money milk. That's a money milk. I asked him about that yesterday. I said, well, hold on money milk. It is the retelling of the first part of season 2 in movie form. I don't want to go see. Elio is also an option, but I don't really care for that one either. So I know what you did last time.
Speaker 1:Horror movie it is. That's a slasher. I wouldn't. Yeah, it's not a horror. I've learned nowadays to differentiate them.
Speaker 1:Slasher and horror to me are different, because slasher movies are never scary. Most of the time we're just laughing at the death scenes. Depends, because the original Halloween is technically a horror slasher. Yeah, that one you can. Well, they just get campier the more they go on. Yeah, they do. How can we get a bigger death scene? And now it's not even about horror, it's about how many jump scares can we put in them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what did you think of the, uh, daily planet? I like the daily planet cast. I thought they were all pretty good. I like that lois, hey. Hey, I don't know at all. I love jimmy. Jimmy olsen. What's up jimmy. He thinks I'm jimmy.
Speaker 1:My biggest issue with him is like I can't picture him not be younger, because he's literally Sean from Psych. That's Sean from Psych. So that's where my brain immediately goes. He's child Sean, but by the end of Psych he was actually pretty grown up. So he actually looks almost like he did at the end of Psych. You're fucking with my brain there, because I didn't realize that. No, you didn't. No, he rarely ever draws conclusions. Here's the question. He's not an original child Sean.
Speaker 1:They did change Sean from their first couple seasons. I think it was between first and second season. That wouldn't make sense. Here's the question what Lois Superman dynamic do you like better? Corn Sweat and his Lois, or Cavill and Amy Adams? This one was better. I kind of think so too. I don't think Amy was the correct choice to be Lois. She didn't do a bad Lois. No, she didn't do bad. But I think I agree that this hey, her Jimmy died. So did, according to Schneider Cavill's Crypto. So I'm just going to leave that alone. Now we know why his universe failed. You killed the dog. John Wick came and destroyed him. That's actually what Wick is on here.
Speaker 1:For another different quote I don't know if they would have gave Schneider time. I think Justice League's Snyder Cut is a great movie. All of his second movie was Batman v Superman. Even the ultimate cut is not. They tried. There's too much in that movie, I think.
Speaker 1:I still think his timeline was rushed. Yes, just like Guns is going to be slightly rushed. He keeps canceling scripts. He was like no, this isn't good. He was handed a Swamp Thing script and he said no, this isn't good. Like he was handed a Swamp Thing script and he said no, this ain't good, that's coming. They're doing a Swamp Thing.
Speaker 1:He still has green lit shows and stuff, but he hasn't accepted the. I need it. Him working with Warner Bros has a bigger chance, especially with his TV shows, because HBO is known for its shows. You can put a ton of shit and produce. That's what I was actually talking to him about. You know what I need from James Gunn? I need more shows, not necessarily like the Green Lantern show or something like that. I just need smaller shows. Give me a fucking crypto show.
Speaker 1:One question I was curious about Jay, of course, said Parallax. I'm like where is Hal? Hal is in the show. He what he's going to be in the Lantern show. He's going to be in the Lantern show. We were talking about that because, because Guy has the ring, hal was a poor guy. From my understanding, to be fair, hal does disappear, that's true. There's a big reason why Hal disappears.
Speaker 1:I get gripe. Hal's my favorite Lantern. A lot of people it's. No, that's actually divided. It's either people like Hal, raynor or Stuart. I like Hal, I'm a Hal. Stuart is great, but Hal is number one, you right. Yeah, I sometimes get flack for that, because a lot of people say you know, like I love Raynor, I just like Hal. Hal's cool, raynor's number three. Yeah, damn, he's got Raynor. Who's two? Stewart, stewart, damn, you don't want to know what's sad about that photo. Okay, that's your Hal and John. Okay, you want to know what's sad about that photo? That that is a great. Jon Stewart, though. I'm like, yes, he's in the talks to be the next James Bond too. Really, yeah, he's one of the people being sought after. Well, ryan might be able to help me out here.
Speaker 1:I was always wondering where Hal was, because it was always under my understanding, because I have not read Lanterns in a little bit. But that ring is Earth's protector. Ain't there only one, or is there multiple? You know what I'm saying. If Guy has the ring, it's one ring per sector and if Green Lantern is out of the sector, a ring will come to replace it. Okay, so Hal might be out of and we can pass it down. Yeah, okay, so, okay, that makes sense then, because I like Lantern lore, I love it. That's like, wait, okay, there could be a couple different things that happen to Hal. One is when he was going through his grief, yeah, and he was seeking out the different colored rings Because you can't go off of the comic order Alan Scott, hal, then Guy, and I'm like where's Hal?
Speaker 1:I know Alan Scott they probably never touched. Another one is when he became a specter. No, I'm just saying you never see Alan Scott Gay and has an alien daughter. But the Flash, you'll see Jay Garrick, though they show Jay Garrick. Jay Garrick was one of the guys that did Flash on the mural, one of the original originals that actually gets loved. Alan Scott will be chairs. It's fucked up. Flash of Earth 2.
Speaker 1:I'm actually excited for the Lantern show because, like I said, I love Lantern more. I'm hoping the Lantern show actually gives us more than just the Green Lanterns. Greens are not my favorite color. Guess my favorite Lanterns. Right, it wasn't very hard. No, it wasn't. Your MTG decks are based off that Rage Hell. Your next favorite lanterns is probably black.
Speaker 1:I like the black lanterns. I like all the lanterns for different things. I love Lara please. Yeah, I know, lara please. What's mine is mine, what's mine is mine, what's mine is mine. I'd love to see Lara please. What's mine is mine, what's mine is mine, what's mine is mine. I'd love to see Lara please. That's actually the worst fucking name for a lantern ever the Black Lanterns. What color light do you show? Black, black, those were. You have white ladders and black ladders.
Speaker 1:That would be a story. They'd have to have a lot of pieces. They'd have to have a lot of pieces to do Darkest Night, but that would be a great movie. That would not be one movie. That would be fucking great. I love Darkest Night. I love Darkest Night. And Brightest Light is like all of fucking DC that you couldn't get, not to mention you'd have to kill Batman. You could get away with it. Sort of kill Batman, that's just a clone that ends up being a lantern. At that point in time, batman's back in time. He's fighting his way through time. I think at that certain point in time he was a pirate. I'm back.
Speaker 1:Get away with it being a Green Lantern movie part one and then being it like a Justice League part two. Technically you could probably get away with it that way, where he starts it off in Blackest Night, starts it off with it as a jump. It was a Green Lantern story, yeah, blackest Night starts it off with as a Green Lantern story, yeah, blackest Night. Either way, you could start it off that way and then have the end of it be a Justice League-ish movie. There's ways to.
Speaker 1:It's more than just Justice League, though. I know that was a huge event. Yeah, it was all-encompassing. Dc has a ton of huge. Think of it like a crisis, but only universe spanning. I thought it was across universes too. It encompassed us. It didn't actually reach across the universe because the fucking monitor tipped in. I thought it was across Earth 1 and 2.
Speaker 1:I wonder who Gunn's gonna be. I wonder who Gunn's going to build. I thought it was MCU built the Thanos. I might be wrong. I wonder who Gunn's going to build to for his first big bad Any monitor Darkseid. It's not going to be Mon-El, yeah, and Warworld or whatever the hell that's called. Yeah, I'm just wondering who's on.
Speaker 1:Is there one that they haven't touched on yet in any live action? Trigon, brainiac, brainiac, I don't know if I I don't know if Brainiac can be considered the first big bad. Oh yeah, he might be the first Justice League. I guess I can't say Trigon, because they did touch that with Titans. Yeah, please, god. No, because they technically as bad as it was, they technically did anti-monitor and monitor and CW. Oh God, watch it be Darkseid, watch it just be Darkseid. Me Technically didn't. You know what, though he didn't even do that. You got it in the Snyder recut, but you didn't get him in the original.
Speaker 1:If we do get Darkseid, I'd love them to introduce the new gods first. The Marvel fans hate me. They give me flack for this, but I like Darkseid way more than Thanos. I think Darkseid has more aura than Thanos. Darkseid kills Thanos. What's your point? Coronary Death Battle yeah, I'm going to boom tube you out of your universe. So the gauntlet's useless Celebrate Death Bow. Oh, my god. If anyone's wondering what the crackling and the Rapper sounds are Buffalo cheese. We're cutting cheese guys. Well, like I said, it's kinda nice, but it's only one movie.
Speaker 1:He didn't lay no seeds to where the hell? No, he laid plenty of seeds as well, as he's going to do anything with them. I'm like, where are you guys? There's plenty of spin-off points in this entire movie. Well, he shipped off his clone into a black hole so that could somehow make that into a mess. Lex fucked with me, man. I created a pocket universe. No, no, no, those are fucking boob coops. Shut up. Okay, I had the monkeys as his internet trolls. Hey, look at it, that's absolute gorilla Grodd. The Thing that I've talked to him about Was Superman's whole thing is not killing people, right?
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure he kills his clones A lot. Was Superman's whole thing is not killing people, right? I'm pretty sure he kills his clones A lot. Yeah, mostly the clones' fault. There are two clones, two, three clones that I know about that. He has not killed Superboy Connor Kent. Yeah, superboy Prime, because he fucking can't. That ends up being Superman Prime. And is it Steel? Is Steel a clone? No, steel's not a clone, that's just a black guy who admires Superman and ended up creating a super suit better than Lex's. They actually did a wonderful job of making steel in the Superman and Lois TV show for WB.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, oh, okay, he's. He is a clone. I don't think he's Superman's clone. No, okay, cause that was a story I read about it. Hell, that's also crypto. He is a clone, but I don't know if he's Superman's clone. He is a clone, but I don't know if he's Superman's clone. That's a type of bizarro. Yeah, that motherfucker was dope.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like, does it not count as killing somebody if it's your clone? No, it's like jerking off. Are you? Are you having sex? No, if you jerk off your clone, are you having sex? What? I think that would count as a sexual act. If you're jerking off your clone, are you having sex? What? I think that would count as a sexual act. If you're jerking off your clone, yeah. If you're doing it to yourself, yeah, that would be self-sex, self-cest, self-cest. You know it's kind of sad. That's a thing on the internet, that is a thing they have a name for it. It's fucking sad, okay, yeah, it's killing. Okay, if there's self-haste, there's, bless you. Yeah, at least it wasn't a super sneeze. Yeah, it's supposed to be gone in half the block.
Speaker 1:How he got away from the black hole. I'm surprised Matt didn't have gripes with that. My friend had a gripe with that he breaks physics all the time. I flew around the planet to turn back time in the original Superman. Even worse than that In one of the original Golden Era comic strips he blew away the fucking solar system of planets by sneezing. So he can propel himself away from a vehicle. I'm loving the fact that Gunn is actually using Golden Era shit like the hypnoglasses. Did you know? Well, I know now. Thanks, guy.
Speaker 1:Why are you telling all these people this? And then she just gets on Clark. It's like he's too damn trusting. Mm-hmm, what if I didn't know? But Superman, superman is too trusting. I think the only person he didn't trust outright was Bruce. To be fair, it's Bruce. Yeah, are you talking about Clark trusting Bruce? Yeah, hey, man God, which one was it?
Speaker 1:Which animated movie was it where they break into? It was Doom, where they break into Batman's computer and get all the Justice League weaknesses. Yeah, at the end of that movie, clark gives him the kryptonite bullet, like, okay, I trust you with it. I'm like, hey, clark does trust him a bit. He gives him the kryptonite bullet, not knowing that he already had like 14 in his back pocket. I got plenty, I got plenty of those, just in case I got to shoot you Just in case, bruce, always ready, oh I need water.
Speaker 1:I said this, though. I hope Gunn actually revitalized a lot of DC's animated work, because DC had such great animated movies Still does. That's one thing Marvel don't fucking do. They don't care. Their Crisis movies were fucking amazing. My coworker said the most recent ones weren't that good though. My coworker said that he wasn't a big fan. He didn't like what they did with the lab. He didn't like how they ended the animated universe with Crisis.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I didn't watch either of them so I wouldn't know exactly what it was. One of the coolest ones they fucking did was Batman Ninja. I don't care Seeing all the comic characters and fucking samurais and shit. You know there's a part two to that. Right, I know, I know I gotta watch that. Yet Batman, yakuza, yeah, but yes, I want more. No, it's fucking seriously what it's called. I know, I've seen it.
Speaker 1:That's one thing Marvel don't care about anymore. They don't do no animated films. And I'm like Marvel. Why do you not? Come on, man, I miss it. One of my favorite Marvel animated films is a legacy film. It's, uh, next Avengers, where they had the kids and Ultron's, the fucking villain and you got old ass maestro looking Hulk here trying to fight him off. Even when Marvel did animated movies I don't know, there is something DC focused on a lot DC's were so good, they were so good. The last good animated thing I remember from Marvel was the old X-Men, which they just brought back. Son of a bitch. I've never rewatched it. What 97? 97 was phenomenal.
Speaker 1:They did one thing I don't like and I'm still mad. They made Rogue not caked up anymore. I was mad. I'm like where's the cake? Where's the cake? For whatever fuck reason, they're no longer curvy. Oh piss now. So Rogue lays on the ground and she got nothing. I'm like oh, it's the chest too. How are they going to destroy Rogue like that? Still got her voice, though Still got her voice. How are they going to destroy Rogue like that? Still got her voice, though Still got her voice. Still, I need her to come to a con somewhere around here. She calls me sugar. I'm going to melt. It makes me think about the whole.
Speaker 1:It wasn't Funimation, it was the whole From Japanese to American animation thing. They censored a lot of stuff in the translation. They censored signs, people's, figures, a lot. China has lost the need for peace in Japan, but because of Germany, we're like, oh yeah, no, we can't. You should see how China censors anime. It's fucking terrible. They cover up all the cleavage and the blood is white, so everything just looks like cum.
Speaker 1:Fortress TV, who used to do a lot of the oh, the worst one was One Piece. I gotta go. I'm not doing a rap. Sounds like that's what happened to X-Men. Yeah, it was a great show though it was, I was just like what? No, they got the story there. That's the thing. The guy actually didn't. They fire the fucking director that actually wrote most of it. That was because of Inside Stuff. Really, it wasn't because of how we did the show, it was because of Inside Stuff. That's sad.
Speaker 1:Speaking of my one Marvel thing, I'm going to be upset if, like, because Matt was telling me there's going to be probably inklings of it in Doomsday. But I want Avengers vs X-Men so bad. And you're like, you're probably going to get pieces of that. And I'm like, oh, you're going to fucking sandwich that into something. God damn you. Yeah, like they do. I love Avengers Like every Hulk storyline ever.
Speaker 1:She's not butthurt at all. She's not butthurt. What's there to be butthurt about? Favorite character not getting anything. To be fair, he had his own movie series, nice, that kind of.
Speaker 1:I liked them, but they kind of flopped. So they were just like eh, I don't want to be this guy, but when it comes to comic books, there's like three people. Unless it's Marvel and Gunn making Guardians really popular, why the fuck do you use his villains in other comic hero movies? Because they're there. If you're not the leader for Captain America, yeah. If you're not Spider-Man, batman, superman, you gotta have something good. Or people are like those are the three that just because of name, oh, we'll go see it. Everyone else. James Gunn, seems to do fine. Get writers like him, yeah, but now he's the CEO of a company, yeah, there's other writers like him. Taika used to be. Thank you for bringing that up.
Speaker 1:I wanted to bring that tangent in at some point because I want I don't know if Ryan knows about that's Judge Dredd, yeah, yeah, he's Taika's gonna direct Judge Dredd, which is a DC property. I don't know how to feel about it either. There's a lot of people that are the same way. It's what. Why I have to say, I have to say quiet, I have Taika bias. I gotta say, yeah, mr. Love and Thunder, damn right. Good soundtrack, damn it. I have no issue with Love and Thunder except Bored and you him Opportunity.
Speaker 1:When that fucking credits hit and the riff for Sweet Child of Mine played, I'm like, oh, stop it. What are you doing, taika? Oh, speaking of soundtracks, you know one thing that I for some reason appreciated about the Superman movies it didn't need a soundtrack to be a good movie. We noticed that when we watched the credits. There's like three songs in the credits. There was no, there was four songs, and one of them was only for the credits. There were three songs throughout the entire movie. It was only for the credits. That one end panel where he's watching his parents and all that, damn it. Oh, that was good.
Speaker 1:I thought they were going to actually create a song for the made-up band in the movie. What the fuck were they called Coldbug? The made-up band in the movie, what the fuck were they called Cold Bug? I don't know. They had that song Really. Yeah, that was the Ed and Fred one that was. Is that an actual band or am I fucked up in the head? It's an actual band. Okay, I'm going to have to listen to something else.
Speaker 1:Speaking of, that was one of the big feels moment at the end Showing the video of his parents. It soothes him. It's the Kents. God damn it. Is it just me or can Ellen voice anything? The fucking robot. He's multiple fucking characters in DC right now. Oh, the goddamn fucking robots. He's still going to be Clayface, if I remember right. Oh, he's going to be Clayface. No, he's not. No, that's going to be a horror movie.
Speaker 1:One of the big things I heard all throughout when the trailers were out before the movie was people were just like why is the sun hurting Superman In the starting scene? It's like bro, he healing, they still don't get it. It's like let's see, you get your entire ribcage put back together and ended. He had a punctured liver all at the same time. It's like healed in 30 fucking seconds. You're only 80% healed. It's okay, I'm okay.
Speaker 1:Like what do you think it feels like to do that? Hey, man, metamorpho had an aura moment. I couldn't believe Metamorpho. Of all people. I can't make an actual sun, but I can make something like. One Continues to do this fucking ultimate. You know everything that's in the sun. One Continues to do this fucking uh, ultimate. You know everything that's in the sun. I mean the sun's composition is actually known. Hey, his baby was something. Do you have every element memorized? I'm not the elementalist. Yeah, see, look at that guy dude. Hey, his baby was something. Where's Jack? It's green. That was one ugly looking baby, jack Joey, joey, it was Joey. It was like I'm with Jay Joey Clayface. Hey, I love it. Why does that look like a Skyscrapers? That's not.
Speaker 1:I recognize him from something. He looks, he looks recognizable from something. I'm not arguing that Clayface. So is he going to start out as an actor and turn into Clayface or is it a different Clayface, because we have three different Clayfaces? Yep, he was in an episode of Doctor who. Yeah, oh yeah, I probably remember him from that one. I kind of feel like talking that off-tangent. Oh, I know why, dean, we know him.
Speaker 1:What he was in the Gentleman? Uh-oh, he was the girl's boyfriend that was trying to keep her from staying. Oh, yeah, that's where I recognize him from. Yeah, when Hunnam the Gentleman right, yeah, when Hunnam goes to get the girl, god damn it, he's the guy that doesn't get pushed out the window. There's a scene in there that lives rent-free in my head, when he's going to get the phone from the kids. I know you're all proper naughty boys. Give me he just pulls. Fine, oh, I was thinking the wrong movie. I know exactly the scene you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Now there's a lot of gentlemen, charlie Hunnam, ask him about Green Arrow. No, it's not going to happen anymore. It's dead, as bad as we want him to be Charlie Hunnam as Green Arrow. He said the man just looks like Oliver, the guy that's in the scene with the glasses here. Pacific Rim, the main guy with the glasses here. I'm like he'll know Pacific Rim Sons of Iron man, the main guy from the first Pacific Rim. I think he would make a good Oliver. That is Oliver. That's been a thing forever and I'm just beating it like a dead horse because apparently it's dead, it won't happen, but I'm just beating it.
Speaker 1:He said no, damn you, let me talk to him. But he's not Garfield. No, let me talk to him. Garfield says no, I'll believe nothing. He says I mean I still die on the hill that the person that when redo casting for Aquaman.
Speaker 1:But I think the perfect Aquaman was the guy that played his brother. He looked more like Aquaman traditionally. No, garfield's on my shit list. I don't disagree. Andrew Garfield's on my shit list again because someone recently, as a joke, interviewed him Are you in Spider-Man 4, brand New Day? No, I'm not. You lie, he lying. I didn't even lie. I don't believe nothing he says. But my current hope for Aquaman is Glenn Hall. That, my current hope for Aquaman is Glenn Hall. That is the only one that I can see. It's like close, I can think of his. Oh damn, I might be the one weirdo here.
Speaker 1:It's like all right, quit giving me name actors. Quit giving me people who can only stay on and work for so long. Go find somebody who's in their. Then we can't have Richardson as Batman. Yeah, I'd be happy if he did, just because it'd be a lot of things that are gonna happen. He seems to be going for less knower names so they can stay on for things. You can see that with James Gunn watched Perlin. He's like he looks like a pretty good Superman.
Speaker 1:We didn't know anybody in this movie coming into it. The highest paid actor in this movie is Nicholas Holt, because of how much other shit he's done. Yeah, lex, yeah, remember, I don't know names. You know one role. See, that was what I was going to say. I thought Holt was a great young beast, but the problem is whenever a beast is like that's a beast, I don't care, oh fuck, he came back. I know he did in a terrible CGI scene, but I want him back. Beast, he's gonna stay out.
Speaker 1:Holt's been in so many different things. Yep, he was just in Nosferatu. What he was in Nosferatu, yeah, that, yeah, it's better than a gay porn you keep trying to show me. I mean, I'm surprised he hasn't brought up Furiosa Furiosa Well, he technically is not in Furiosa, he's in Fury Road.
Speaker 1:You know how often, speaking of, you get really good castings and like kind of movies that were like, like, for example, new Mutants. It was meh. But Anya Taylor-Joy is a great fucking magic. I would love her to, actually, and she probably won't ever come back as that. No, which is sad, she was a good magic. Yep, outside of Jimmy Olsen and I guess now Nicholas Holt, probably the character that I've seen the most in this movie outside of this movie is Perry White. Yeah, because he's in the Jack Ryan, the counterpart in Jack Ryan the entire time. You know what's sad about watching him? I almost feel like he's playing himself. Now.
Speaker 1:That was one of my favorite scenes too, when Metropolis is panicking and everyone in Daily Planet is running and they're just sitting there. Alright, tell me, they're just sitting there, they're used to it. They go up in Mr Terrific's ship and write the story. Poor dude don't got a chair. I don't have a chair. You didn't watch Jack Ryan, for some reason. I just watched the first three episodes and stopped. I don't know why. He's very much like Dean. If it doesn't draw his attention, he'll forget about it after a while. Me too. Locke's mocking up. Yeah, I swear to God, we almost taped his eyes open at the hotel just so we'd watch it, and that's probably why the fire alarm went off. Oh, his brain was smoking.
Speaker 1:To be fair, I am literally just catching up to Invincible. So to Invincible, invincible, it's alright, they'll have their fifth season working on fourth season. Fourth season, yeah, fourth season is being animated, fifth season is being voiced. Oh, okay, that's how they're doing things. Fifth season should be the last season, though.
Speaker 1:Cool, I was watching it and, shit, what's his name? Cecil, he's literally Cecil's just. Uh, the actor that plays him? No, um, what's her name? Uh, suicide Squad, I'll go right. No, what's her name? Suicide Squad, I'll go right. No, I was talking about the one who puts all the bombs in people's heads. Oh, amanda Waller, yeah, waller, she's literally just Waller. Yeah, it's literally With more of a heart. Maybe Because Amanda Waller don't of a heart? Maybe Because Amanda Waller don't give a shit? Nope, somebody did point out, not even for her own daughter, apparently.
Speaker 1:Remember Peacemaker? Yeah, no, speaking of I loved his cameo in Fuck you there 2. I don't know who was giving that interview. I didn't see him. Wait, what? The Peacemaker, peacemaker, I did the. He did the Mephisto meme.
Speaker 1:Like Matt made a joke, I wanted Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn back, so bad. And Matt's like nope, you get Peacemaker, you keep Peacemaker, you can do an underwear again. The you get peacemaker, you keep peacemaker, you can do an underwear again. That that's the bit, the continuity. Now it's gonna get weird now, though, because we don't know what, all, what all.
Speaker 1:Peacemaker season two, august. I'm so ready, I'm so ready. He's keeping peacemaker, but does that mean everybody in his suicide squad movie is eligible to come back and that's like all? So that's what it's supposed to be, that's how we think of it, but we don't know anything yet. Or an eligible peacemaker, suicide Squad movie? Yeah, basically, margot Robbie might be. Margot can come back. That is my heart, which means we also might be keeping Driselba. He's not dead. I feel bad for Polka Dot man. Still, that's sad. He overcame mama. He tried to overcome his mom. Good movie man.
Speaker 1:I'm so mad it was during covid and it couldn't be a huge box office success, but I read it missed huge streaming success. So it succeeded somewhere. That was a good movie. I even hate the eight or suicide squad. It was just they chose the wrong villain and it was weird Back when CGI was still bad. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I agree, I didn't. I was entertained.
Speaker 1:I'm one of the weird defenders of Leto's Joker because I think they could have gave him more time. I didn't like the look more than I hated the look. Oh, I can understand the look. I can understand people's gripes because it was a very modern tatted.
Speaker 1:Every Joker has to hit one aspect of his character, otherwise it doesn't feel right. We have an actual storyline in the comics called the Three Jokers that amplifies that. Yeah, the clown, the comedian, the psychopath, but, um, yeah, he did not hit for Joker for me. I loved him at the end of the Snyder Cut, though for Justice League. I thought he had great lines. I loved his lines there. I was like, yes, he wasn't psychotic. I really liked Joaquin's take on Joker, but Joker 2 kind of almost killed Joaquin's take on Joker. But Joker 2 kind of almost killed Joaquin's Joker, literally.
Speaker 1:When you watch the end of that movie it's like what was the point? What was the fucking point? The point was that Joaquin's Joker wasn't the Joker. Yeah, because of the reaction to the first one, the director took it that way and it's like why make this movie then? That was so fucking. I'm sitting here like, okay, I see why people didn't like this.
Speaker 1:Think, out of all of the the real or live action batmans, leto's Joker is my least favorite. Again, I that. What about that's counting the? No, I'm. Lettles Joker is my least favorite. Again I, what about that's counting the? No, I'm forgetting his name and it's pissing me off. Dean wants to see more of him in Pattison's. Oh, barry Keegan, I don't know if we've visited enough of him to correctly analyze that one. We have. Did you watch the deleted scene where he's talking to the messed up Joker? I like it. I'm like that's fucking death of the family Joker. Look how fucked up he is. Yeah, I like it. That was my least favorite. And then you got.
Speaker 1:If you want to know why you got to watch this movie called Salt Burn. Oh, I've seen Salt Burns you have. You won't watch it. We tell him how weird it is. It's weird, he's continuously a dick. For that he egged us on to watch it and he didn't fucking realize it, unintentionally egged you on. He didn't make you guys watch it One of the funniest lines in that movie because Jay said he's gonna fuck that dirt. And he fucked that dirt. He's just standing over it. Come on, ryan, you had to be watching that movie. Like, what are you doing? Why are you licking up that man's bathwater? Oh, my god, he liked earning his red wings too. Oh, my god. Oh, and the ending. No, the ending.
Speaker 1:Him dancing around naked and shit, because his whole plan Look, it's Dean. Shut up, his whole plan. Nobody's home, so he's walking around naked. He can't be Dean. He'll never have that much money. Damn, I want that much money. We don't know what his plan is, unless he's selling all his pops at once. He wouldn't do that. No, he needs a house big enough to display them all. Yeah, oh God, I fear for your mom and dad's life now Because that house is big enough to display all the props. Yeah, I'm going to start moving props everywhere.
Speaker 1:God hey, this is the longest we've talked about a movie, though For the most part we Did. We. We tangented the movie. I can't bring this back, but we talked about most of the points though. That's the thing, not really what time are we at? Currently An hour, so, so yeah, we spent 30. We're fine. I lost 60 bucks the last night just for us to go to six hours again. Well, unfortunately we've had too many issues to talk about.
Speaker 1:The other movie. What other movie? The one we didn't get to do an episode on? Oh, jurassic World Rebirth. Yeah, we can talk about it a little bit if you guys want. Does it need to be talked about? I mean it needs to be categorized as, like it's one of the worst, or at least best of the Jurassic Park movies I liked. It Doesn't mean it's one of the best. It should not have been a Jurassic Park movie. That's where I stand on that.
Speaker 1:He hates the family, which is justifiable. They had no reason to be in there. Everybody agrees on that. They were completely pointless to the storyline. They actually brought the storyline to not make sense. Matt called my bias on it. It's like Dean, it's Scarlett Johansson bias, that's why you're like it.
Speaker 1:It also had crewmates that died for no reason at all and according to Dean, it also had Idris Elba. I kept calling Mahers. It also had Idris Elba. I kept calling Mahershala Ali, idris Elba twice. I'm like I mixed them up.
Speaker 1:Yet he remembered to call him Blade and he's never been Blade. There's only going to be one Blade. Yes, that's not his fault and it is not his fault. It's not his fault. Maybe we will, because Marvel now plans to adapt Midnight Suns and we need a Blade. Yeah, and Marisha Lula was asked about if Blade was still on the table and he didn't comment one word.
Speaker 1:Oh, so he's Garfielding us. No, garfielding us. I'm coining that term now. Anytime, somebody can't tell you the truth, but will tell you the opposite of the truth. Considering all you said was Garfield, all I pictured was an orange cat, andrew Garfield. I can't say Andrewing us, I'm just saying a lasagna.
Speaker 1:I like seeing the Mosasaur Agging us. I love the Mosasaur In fucking Rebirth. I love the Mosasaur. I have Mosasaur eyes. Ooh, a snack.
Speaker 1:I didn't know about the symbiosis between the Spinosaurus and the Mosasaur and the Derpasaurus. The Rancor the Rex Looks like a Rancor Combo Dino, are you talking about the Raptoterradon? Or are you talking about the D-aradon? Or are you talking about the D-Rex itself? The D-Rex, the D-Rex. It's official name is D-Rex.
Speaker 1:It literally had no purpose for the movie. No, it didn't, he was just there at the end. Hi, I'm here. Yeah, they started it with that. He was the reason why my biggest problem with that movie. You see how fucking huge he was right.
Speaker 1:There's absolutely no change to the ecosystem of that island. Yeah, especially with the titanosauruses. I mean, they at least got the planes. Don't go into the long grass. I didn't think there was enough vegetation to feed that herd of longnecks. No, the titanosauruses no, there wouldn't actually be enough nutrients inside that vegetation to feed them with our current atmosphere. Yeah, which is why they made the point of saying dinosaurs are dying off because the only area on the planet that they could survive is the equator. Yeah, and it's all summed up by life finds a way. Yep, yeah, no, the D-Rex literally was pointless. Well, I guess it's dying.
Speaker 1:Superman is number one at the box office, but there's Rebirth at two. Still holding on, it's gonna make money, dinosaurs Money. How's it doing box office-wise now? What Superman? Yeah, hopefully good, I hope good. I really hope good. This really needs to. Yes, yes, it does. I don't want the fucking Cavalier. $337 million worldwide currently. It's not pretty, because it needs to make at least $700. Yes, so it's only halfway there. Well, they're laggy with updating the international. Today's numbers aren't in there. They update the domestic really quick, but international legs. So this is the start of the week. Monday will have a clearer figure, but it needs to approach almost five to even have legs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even if it's not a better movie, fantastic War is going to eat it, and that pisses me off. The very sad part about movies now is that they have to make their money back within a month of being out, otherwise it's not going to make it. Matt, bring up a good point. It pisses me off. Fantastic Four is going to come and eat it. No, go away mid-movie, not eat it. You're a dick. Get into it. It will eat into it. I know it. Galactus, you didn't have to say that. Eat it, ryan. Okay, what is your opinion on Fantastic Four? We are all in agreement it's going to be a mid-ass movie that is mid Me.
Speaker 1:It has Pedro Pascal and a role I don't see him as. Oh, my god, I was just about to fuck. He gets a magical kid. Damn you. You, I was going to say it's not Pedro, he doesn't have a magical. Yes, he does, he's there. We've only seen him in Roll and Roll, where he doesn't have a magical kid. I no, we get another one, especially if he's Instead of going to see. I'm not seeing Eddington, oh, why not? He doesn't have a magical kid in that one. Oh man, I wanna see what that I to see what that fucking machine gun's all about in that fucking trailer. I'm like what the fuck is, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Bearded Thing is still fucking with my brain why it happens. You watch your brain fuckwood, watch a movie called Bull is Afraid. Your brain will be fucked with. Don't like how the Thing looks in this. He's really thrown off. Yeah, say the Thing. Say the Thing. Is the thing too shiny for you? No, his face doesn't look right and he's not big enough. It doesn't have enough emotion. Yeah, do I got to be the one to say it? No one will ever top Michael Chiklis. No, you want to know why? That is Practical effects. Yeah, he was in a suit. They made him look real. I'm just hoping they don't.
Speaker 1:My hope is because Johnny's one of my favorite Marvel characters. I hope they don't ruin Johnny, because they all said how his hair cuts off. He's not going to be a womanizer anymore. I'm like, don't ruin Johnny. He flirts with the Silver Surfer. What'd you say? What, matt? Yeah, you did. They're ruining him. That's literally his character. Don't ruin Johnny. There's ways to make him less womanizing. But he still has to be kind of flamboyant and flirty. He's the youngest of the group. Be kind of flamboyant and flirty, that's kind of. He's the youngest of the group, not that flamboyant. They aren't flamboyant. I mean, they made Stark a womanizer at the start of the first Iron man. Why can't they just do that for Johnny? Because Disney's above all that now, fuck that.
Speaker 1:Did you see the? You probably didn't, because it was one of those shows, ironheart. They turned the hero into practically a villain. I think I told you that this is not a hero origin story, this is a villain origin story. What the hell? No, seriously, she took a deal with Mephisto. We do have live action Mephisto, to be fair, lots of people do that. Yes, but it wasn't in the Hero of West. Well, I think Spider-Man, doctor who.
Speaker 1:The only redeeming factor about her character is her feeling guilt for things she's done but she never learns from it. And she has one of her villains, zachariah Stone, which I love that they brought back Brought in, not brought back because he didn't fucking exist in Iron man 1. Yeah, they didn't know they were going to get this far when they did that. Hey, who openly said you don't fucking learn from your mistakes, graduates college at 16 years old, is still there working and doing everything and doesn't learn a goddamn thing.
Speaker 1:The worst thing about Sasha Barricone as Mephisto as good as it was, the fucking memes are already just going to town. They dress Borat up like the devil. I go to the MCU. No, he completely redeemed that show. I go to the MCU. Actually, I shouldn't say completely redeemed the show. The show was. The show was fine, I was okay.
Speaker 1:But Mephisto at the end kind of carries it and holds it up better than it is. It gave it its pedestal to stand on. It doesn't mean it's not that high. The show by itself it's okay, it's alright. It's nothing special, but it's okay, which is how I feel about this movie. What movie, superman man? That's just because you're wearing a Batman shirt. Do you think that wasn't planned? I can't say shit. I'm wearing a Sony shirt today. Well, we got the flash over there and then we got crypto.
Speaker 1:So I'll ask you, since you watched it, how many black stereotypes and situations were in this show? Way too fucking many. What Ironheart? Yeah, I watched it too. Oh See, the thing is they tried to hit that as well as go above it. But the problem is, once you do that stereotype and you say it, you don't level out. You're just always going to be right there. Cochlear was involved with it. That's one thing. It's not a saving grace. At this point I tried to explain to Dean how it wasn't forced, but every time it was brought up it was, but it wasn't the main aspect of the show.
Speaker 1:The other thing was the Stark bashing. She wasn't bashing Stark. People did not like that. That one was overplayed. I saw what you were saying. She wants Stark bashing. There was a lot of because she wants to be better than Tony Stark. And there was like Tony, she needs money, she needs this, that to be better than Stark, and everyone comments Tony built his shit in a fucking cave. This, that to be better than the start, and everyone comments Tony built his shit in a fucking cave by terror. Her opening, her message, was Tony wouldn't have been Tony if he didn't have the money. Yeah, people, that was the opening message of the show. Oh, ryan's like huh, it'll catch you off guard. You're setting off on a bad Tony. You're too bad for our God. Tony, every single RDJ fan what the fuck are you talking about? Tony didn't need all that. First movie said so yeah, so that wasn't a good and I don't think it was complete bashing.
Speaker 1:The other issue is that she proceeds to not have all this money and build a fucking better suit with her friends in a garage Almost unlimited amount of grant money to build the stuff that she was having. So she had the money. She wasn't supposed to be building the suit. That was the problem with her grant money. They didn't want her to do anything with the Iron man stuff. They wanted her to create the tech that she was gonna help the world. Her Iron man tech wouldn't help the world. Iron man tags are already out there. I mean, we don't. However, her whole not having to use a arc powered suit, how she powers her suit yeah, that could help the fucking world. Put that out there. Yeah, but none of that out there, yeah, but none of that has ever touched us.
Speaker 1:Marvel already knew this thing that this wasn't going to get any positive notoriety based on the release schedule. They didn't fucking advertise it until a month ago. Here's three episodes ago, yeah. So their entire concept for how their metrics goes is minutes watched per, and so by putting out more episodes you get the watch count up. That is their goal, and they release three episodes in three episodes to try and pad the count as much as possible.
Speaker 1:My favorite three TV shows Marvel ever did is still Falcon, winter, soldier, loki and Hawkeye. I thought those were all good shows. People probably like oh and Hawkeye, I thought those were all good shows. People probably like no, you didn't like She-Hulk. Yes, I liked She-Hulk, but the show was kind of stupid. You're not putting Punisher and Daredevil in there. Oh, I love, don't bring up Born Again. Don't bring that up. We are already debating that shit. I loved it. I touched on that. Matt had a lot of issues with it and I actually really like Born Again.
Speaker 1:My main question for that show is where the fuck are all the other heroes? That's why I said it. The shoot was doing a show in New York. You actually answered that question. Spider-man, I'm off today. To be fair, they were in a different universe To start Until this Daredevil bit just happened, so there might not have been others. I did like that in Born Again.
Speaker 1:When Fisk said vigilantes wearing spider logos, I'm like I was fucking DiCaprio. I don't care, born Again can be so good. This is where half the time he actually does have a drink in his hand and he's pointing at the TV like this did you watch Born Again? No, I don't have a pointing at the keyboard like this. Did you watch Born Again? No, so I don't have a Disney film.
Speaker 1:The only wasted part about that show was Muse. Muse was great and they wasted him and the ending was the biggest bullshit ever. We have an army. What army? Hell? Yeah, let's see the fucking Defenders. I want Spider-Man in there. Oh, it's a bunch of fucking cops. To be fair, every other Daredevil villain throughout the Daredevil, born Again and Daredevil shows has been a throwaway villain outside of Kingpin, and I'm sick of it. I love Kingpin, I'm done. Thank you for bringing that up, because when me and him were watching the Electro part, I damn near turned off the TV. Uh-huh, especially when she died. It's like why are you doing this again Because once isn't enough? No, no, and it was all for the setup of Defenders. That's basically all that ever was. Does Elektra die like Every time? Yeah, yes, a lot. That's her character arc, and then she somehow gets brought back. She's Daredevil now. She's female Daredevil now. So that's why she died.
Speaker 1:I did say, though kind of my hot, because I went back because I told Jay I was like you know, we're not going to get no, it was a Superman comment. One of what? No, we're not going to get that, no, one of my. I said Superman's probably my comic film since Spider-Man. No Way Home. That's my favorite comic film of all time. It'll probably never be touched.
Speaker 1:I went back to that. Only gives you what? Three, four years? No, because I went back and looked Do you like no Way Home better than Into the Spider-Verse? He does, yes, okay, that's my childhood. It's the fact that he got all three. That's fair. They gave me what I wanted. It will just. Andrew got his Sinister Six without having to fucking have his movie. I don't think they're done with him. They're going to bring him back again. I don't think they're done with him. Yep, they did the meme, whatever, but, um, no, because I went back, because I said no way home. So I went back and seen okay, no way home, favorite comic film ever.
Speaker 1:Superman is. It's in a tier, but I still love no way home way more. So I'm like superman. I went down the list. I'm like, yes, I like superman better than than all of these, the only close ones. I like deadpool and wolverine, so that and superman are close. I like superman way more thunderbolts.
Speaker 1:I think that was depression. Of course you're gonna like Superman more Depression. Hope always is higher than depression. Inspiring hope. And yet Superman is either beaten up or frustrated the entire movie. He always gets back up Where's the dog? Where's the dog? Lucida, you know one of my favorite memes when you're an introvert at a party and they have a dog, shows that scene. Where's the dog? Where's the dog? You're not an introvert. I just laughed. I just laughed. It was funny. Are there any more points on yours? I only have a James Gunn comment Uh-oh Left, uh-oh Before or after release of the movie. Well, it's actually bringing up what we thought was going to happen before and hasn't changed how we feel about afterwards. I don't.
Speaker 1:I accept him writing the script for it. I don't think he was the director for Superman and my biggest case for it is the fact that the Justice Gang didn't need to be in the movie. I like them, like you could get Sub-characters. They were too involved in the plot and you can tell that's where he feels the most comfortable with his shit, with his groups. Yes, I disagree, just because if they didn't have them in the movie, they wouldn't have been able to do the two separate things happening.
Speaker 1:I think there's a way you could have With Superman inspiring hope and saving Metropolis. There is a way you can write the story where, watching him overcome what the message is going, the American military steps in and stops the thing, but then that would have brought in the whole America and then the movie wouldn't have been able to. America has already said no, that is our ally, we do not fuck with our allies. But versus military. There is a way to write it. You're not going to like this. It's going to be a bit political. Oh great, it was a fucking parallel to real life. No, we already said that, we already did.
Speaker 1:I just think there's a better way to write the script where you didn't need it, because I think they're only in it because that's where James feels most comfortable. I need my groups. I need my groups. I mean they wanted to hit all target audiences abroad and if they would have brought the American military in as the saviors, they would have lost a lot. It definitely would have lost a lot. Yeah, save Palestine. They kind of almost got it anyway.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying that's not where he wanted to go with that. He didn't want to force agendas. Gunn's not like that. That's why I like Gunn. I don't care if you want to put a little message. He wanted to write his comic movie and he got as much as he could. Here's a perfect example to what I'm saying there. Take someone like Coogler, ryan Coogler with Sinners. Sinners has a lot of messages in it, but they're not heavy-handed to the point where someone is just going to watch a movie and is going to be distracted by it. Did you see any of the red carpet stuff that had James Gunn in it? No, they were openly bragging that Superman was an immigrant. That was the red carpet to the movie. I was talking to him about that. To be fair, he is. I'm not going to say it.
Speaker 1:They've been putting political aspects onto the movie from the beginning. Yeah, I didn't feel it though. I didn't feel it though. Well, that's because there are comments outside the movie. Anything can be said outside of the movie, but as long as it's not in the movie itself where it's forced down your throat like this is all the movie's about. And here's the thing. I tell this all the time, just honest to God. I tell people all the time Hollywood is not really in line. I am a very center right-leaning person politically and Hollywood's very left. So I should have always. But for the most part I just bury that and enjoy the movie. You know, for the most part, so shit, unless it's ridiculously in my face and they're just fucking shoving that shit down there and I'm like what was it, fred? But of course, to the gun point of it.
Speaker 1:Technically Superman also didn't beat either of the big plots in the movie. Hmm, the gang beat the subplot with the military aspects of it and technically Crypto's the one that beat Lex. But I'm just saying that he only beat his clone who was the muscle for it. You ripped things apart. I'm just saying you are that fucking rupture in the dimension I was having a week after seeing the movie where my brain goes. He beat the clone, but then he also got there. He led them into it, but then to stop Lux from getting away and then Mr T stopped. Mr T stopped the rupture. He's got so many nicknames. The best one I've come up with is Black Diamond. Yes, but he also could have just used that worker that was saying I can stop this, which? Why did Mr Terrific need to be in the movie? Because you could have had Superman into doing it. They wrote it in and then changed their mind with it. Yeah, that's why I'm saying Gunn could have written the script and it would have been fine.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure he was the director for Superman. That's all I was trying to make. You're really down on my move, man. I like the discussion. You're taking that home and I'm still calling it a good movie. I'm still calling it a good movie. It's in the positive. You're really bringing me down to Gotham's level, bro. At least you're not in an alley. Oh, you just confused me a little bit because I was like Gunn directed it. Unless you're making a, I'm saying he probably wasn't the correct director. Oh, okay, he's trying to shoot me in an alley. Did you hear that? Oh God, he's trying to have everyone. You're lucky you're not wearing pearls.
Speaker 1:They did need the Justice Gang. I kind of am, because they were the comedy. Also, superman was having a hard time with Lois. Who would have thought that? But you didn't need that much comedy with the Superman movie either. None of the other ones were that funny, but they had humorous moments.
Speaker 1:You had Crypto. That was your humor, yeah, but Crypto was humorous because of his interactions with Mr Triff. If we had a regular Crypto, he wouldn't have been funny. Yeah, crypto's a good boy, not in this movie, he's a Boy Scout, not this Crypto. That's me.
Speaker 1:Crypto, that's Anklebiter Crypto. No, you, that's Valion, that's Valion. If you don't understand, no, tally on if you don't understand. No, that's what I said. You don't understand? No, we've witnessed this. Oh God, well, now we're all wait. Besides Fantastic Four yeah, they were done with Super Movie. Fantastic Four is it? And again, like I said, I hope Superman has legs, because that we know of Currently.
Speaker 1:Have you seen the Mortal Kombat trailer yet? I have not watched it. I know of it. So it seems like they're moving in the right direction. They're actually trying this time around. They're not doing their own thing Based off of the trailer. Do you feel like Johnny's the main character for this one. Yes, okay, just wanted to make sure that wasn't the one In this trailer I saw. Don't quote it, he hasn't seen it. I forgot his name, cole. Yeah, cole, holy shit.
Speaker 1:There is one thing I didn't like. There is one thing I did not like Jade. Why is she bald? Hated that Her character, the actor's playing her as, yeah, I'm like, no, you destroyed my queen. How can they make Jade bald? I don't like it. Her actor and everything she's in is bald. Give her a wig. Give her a wig. I don't know if it's in her character or whatever. She won't wear a wig. Everything she's in she's bald. She's in Wednesday. I love that. Ryan is 100% agreeing that Jade no, jade's bald.
Speaker 1:Jade's Entire character is her hair and her suit. That is her. They're supposed to be sisters. They're supposed to look alike. Yeah, she don't look nothing like Katana. Katana's fine. What the fuck Ryan's like no, why? Thank you, thank you. Her sliding up and down the pool ain't gonna look nice now. No, she's just gonna look like a Ew. Why did I just imagine that? Hey, that's more gay porn for you, though. I'm just happy Ryan agreed. That was the only thing about the trailer. I that, hey, that's more gay porn for you, though I'm just happy Ryan agreed. That was the only thing about the trailer I'm like. I don't care if they've changed race or anything, not really. At least make the character look like the fucking character.
Speaker 1:I have questions. Yes, I have questions outside of it, but I can't say anything until you've seen the trailer. That's why I had issues with Starfire and Titans for a while. No, my fan favorite character is back and I don't know how. What Scorpion? No, I know how he's alive. Noob oh, I know how he's alive. Shao Kahn's in it. I'm happy, shao Kahn, that was always going to happen.
Speaker 1:Goro no, that was the one character they didn't reveal, but he's not dead or not alive yet. Character they didn't reveal, but he's not. But he's not dead or not alive yet, because we didn't see him in the thing. We didn't see Goro again, he was supposed to die in the first one. No, kano's alive, I don't know. Does he have more cybernetics? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Hey, I seen, I swear to god, I seen Kung Lao in the trailer and I thought. I thought Kung Lao died. He does. He got his soul snatched, didn't he? The thing is, I think the scenes where I saw him. I think they're in the Underworld, so there's context for it. Kano was in scenes outside of the Underworld. That's why I was confused. Okay, we're excited for it. Or it could be zombie Kung Lao.
Speaker 1:It's a movie to add to our fall um nerdy movies, kind of, because now we got something else with predator, thank god. I'm like god, it's only predator. Shit. You at least got another special guest for that one, unless Ryan wants to come on too. Oh, I forgot to tell his ass. I'm buying four tickets to Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 1:I sent him the teaser trailer that came out the day before the trailer. I sent him the teaser trailer that came out the day before the trailer. I sent him the full trailer. He's like yeah, I'm fucking ready. He didn't respond to me. That jackass. Okay, he does that. See, he didn't respond to me. It's only him. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1:Well, we know who the favorite is. The Hobbit only responds to Bilbo. Why is he Bilbo? Why is he Bilbo? What? That's the first thing that popped in my head, sadly.
Speaker 1:Sam, yeah, you're Sam. Oh, no, he doesn't garden a leaf. I don't eat potatoes. No potatoes. To be fair, sam's the best thing that came out of the Lord of the Rings. He is the girl. He doesn't accept it for some reason. Dude Sam, there was literally no reason to have Frodo. Sam was the main person. Sam literally carried Frodo to that damn volcano.
Speaker 1:My favorite thing about Lord of the Rings is still fucking the absolute aura-farming design of Sauron that I see for two minutes, never seen again, and he's an eye in the rest of this shit, yeah, which is why you should never watch Rings of Power. There it is again Every time we mention the Rings of Power. He hasn't even seen a single episode of that and he shouldn't, and he shouldn't. No, matt low-key killed that because he knows how much I love the Nazgul. I watched the first season of it and I'm discussing it with him. I don't like it, but I still want to see where it goes. And then the second season came out. Oh my god. He still didn't tell me why. I don't understand how this is the most expensive show ever produced. I still don't understand how it earned that title. It makes no sense. The main reason I don't want to go and see it.
Speaker 1:I've seen images and stuff of comparisons of the armor and weaponry used in Lord of the Rings movies versus the show and it's like what the fuck did they spend all their money on? It wasn't the CG, I'll tell you that, the armor. So I've watched things where it's like armor crafters and blacksmiths. They probably bought an island, because that's the only thing I can explain. They bought an island. They bought the New Zealand island. They shot on and then burned it down. Yes, yes, the armor crafters in Blacksmiths were just like this isn't the armor that would have been used. Some of the armor stuff was literally just cloth print. They didn't even make armor for the characters and they were main characters, yep.
Speaker 1:And it's like what the fuck are you doing? When does the power take place? It's before the movies, right Way before something Like a thousand years. Well, it's the foundation of Middle-earth, basically. So so it's all before. For fuck's sakes, gandalf isn't fucking Gandalf, this is fucking Gandalf.
Speaker 1:And then he told me about the inconsistencies in. I was concerned about something, because he knows my favorite things about Lord of the Rings, sauron and the Nazgul. And he said don't watch Rings of Power. I'm like what does he mean by the Nazgul? The only good thing that came out of Rings of Power is that other fucking wizard introductions? Yeah, you got the other wizards you never really got to see. That's the only good thing. Oh, maybe the origin of the fucking hobbits? I don't even like that. No, actually, you told me you didn't like that. The fucking traitors and cannibals on the origins yeah, what'd they do to my Nazgul? What'd they do? Smile and pretend they don't exist.
Speaker 1:This cheese is so much better than I thought it would be. It is pretty good. I only had one piece, but it's pretty good. I thought it was going to be spicy, by the way, I saved that one for you.
Speaker 1:You need the title too. After you see the picture. What's weird is you can actually smell the buffalo spice. Yeah, wow, what did you just do to him? Look at the picture first, then the title Sweet hey, my brother, are you okay? Oh, I love how you're rubbing your arm right now the exact arm that's gone.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, I think what happened to Mina when she got turned into a dog chimera. Fuck, damn it. So many people are doing shit with that and it's not okay. No, they're fucking with everybody. You know what my dumb ass would do, though. I'd still go up there and pet it. I'd get shit for it too, because, for my goddamn luck, it's probably like a 13 or 12 year old that's cosplaying. Oh god, no, then my motherfucker, then my motherfucker, scar Damn, put you out your misery, oh my god. Well, what do we want? At least it's not father. What do we want? Let's see. What do we want from this new DC universe? Batman, everything, batman, everything.
Speaker 1:I want to see more of the less known characters which James Gunn is doing. Yeah, so that's. We just don't know if we're going to get. Not all of them deserve feature length. Hey, I did hear I'm getting my Blue Beetle. He's coming back. The movie was okay. The movie was okay. However, we're probably getting a Ted Kord Beetle. Okay, because James Gunn really wants to do a Blue Beetle. Booster Gold or not? Booster Gold, yeah, booster Gold. That Booster Gold, yeah, booster Gold thing. That would be cool. It would be awesome. I really like that. He's doing stuff with the lesser known characters. It's better for him. I loved the thing that Matt doesn't like Group movies. Yeah, it shouldn't be the first movie that you're doing out of your universe either.
Speaker 1:We weren't going to get a solo movie, no matter what, because people were already too butthurt about Cavill and Snyder and everything else that happened. I didn't feel the movie as much as there's a lot going on. I was worried about it being overstuffed. I didn't feel it was overstuffed. The movie's shorter than man of on. I was worried about it being overstuffed. I didn't feel it was overstuffed. The movie's shorter than man of Steel. It was never going to be overstuffed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when we heard the runtime we were scared. I'm like all this stuff that's happening in there, what the fuck? Then we watched the movie and it was actually well-placed. Well, that is one of the things that I was confused. That's the armor comparison. Jesus Christ, an armor crafter ripped the pirate captain's armor apart. None of it is what would have been worn. It's just so bad.
Speaker 1:Keep in mind he is the leader of the army of Aragorns. He is supposed to be basically Aragorn of this era and he's wearing a cheap-ass breastplate that doesn't look like anything. Nothing fucked me up more than when I seen fucking Aragorn's magic card. What. It's still funny. He's black. But some people have told me they don't describe Aragorn really in the book. They don't describe a lot of the characters. He's described as darker of skin because he's sun-soaked. That is the only context of him. So he's tanned. Magic, let's make it black. But, to be fair, vigo is tanned in that movie Because he's been Sun-soaked the entire time. Now he goes fishing While Wendy's not on the set. I'd go fishing, I'd watch, I don't know, I just wanna.
Speaker 1:The next movie is a Supergirl. We're getting the Supers Super at the start. Supergirl is Brave and Bold. Batman's on the slate somewhere. I don't know if that even has a date yet. As far as my understanding, supergirl is going to introduce us to outer space, which, based off of her one scene, makes sense. Yes, it was confirmed that Crypto was going to be a big part of that movie too. I did read some. Oh, she did. Crypto went with her. Yeah, he's just going to be the mascot.
Speaker 1:Did they say anything about any of the other characters besides Lobo? No, not really. Okay, so we have nothing and there's not even confirmation, like I said, that Lobo is the main villain. He might just be a cameo. For all I know, that might be the movie that they introduced, mon-el or Mon-El. There's a female version of Mon-El.
Speaker 1:Huh, mon-el, I think, was the yeah, where both Lobo and her get stuck on War World and they have to team up, and that would be cool, because, like introducing Lobo as a villain, he's not really a villain. He's a villain. He's a force of nature without being a force of nature. Yes, that's just because he's cursed and he can't die. That motherfucker can regenerate from a single drop of blood and shit, not worse than that. Actually, it's kind of sad. He's molecular. That motherfucker can revive from an atom. What the fuck Revives from a clock. They're looking at Wonder Woman stuff that's on the docket. Yeah, he can't figure out who he wants to cast as Wonder Woman, because he wants to cast somebody who's like 6'2 or more. I'm on board. Who's the cast in actual Amazon?
Speaker 1:I'm on board with Momoa's fiance. I'm on board with it. Really, yes, I've not seen Momoa's fiance. You have seen her in movies, have I? Yes, I don't know her name well enough. I don't have it memorized, that's for sure, or the way she looks. You do know who it is, though, because I've shown it to her before. Is it her? Yeah, I'm for it. Have I seen her? She doesn't look familiar.
Speaker 1:She was in Blink twice. Oh, yep, yep, yep. I know who it is. I followed her. She was the only one. She was hot With the one that disrupted Dana. She was the athletic one. Yep, I followed Yep. You've seen her in other things too. She was technical, maybe it's because she was high. The entire movie I didn't recognize her. She's also one of the characters in Belko Experiment. Do you remember that one? So you're saying she has the same thing as Dana? I knew she was in that movie.
Speaker 1:That's one movie, because at the end of the year we do our top 20 movies of the year. That is one movie Matt told me to check out late was Blink Place. Like Dean, you watch that because you will like it, and when it gets to the reveals I'm just like oh my God, they're just drugging these women and making them forget. They're raping them all. Oh my God, I love it. But that and Channing Tatum's the bad guy, holy shit. I mean, if you want me to bring back unpleasant memories, she's technically a love interest in Morbiots. I don't remember that movie. No, that's fair, he was dancing in it. Fuck that fucking system. God damn it.
Speaker 1:How come every doctor, who doctor, comes back as either a villain or somebody who you can't take seriously? Tenet was a man, a man. Tenet's great in everything he does. You can't see. Tenet's the only one who the rule does not Matt Smith she's never been a big role in all of these movies. Eccleston you had Thor Dark World. He was the elf. She's also the engineer in the second Pacific Rim.
Speaker 1:Smith Morbius, david Tennant we already ruled out. The Thinker from DC. Suicide Squad was, oh god, yeah, pauly. That's all current era. Next thing we know we're going to have shit. What was her name? Nobody cares for what. The doctors, the female doctor?
Speaker 1:I stopped at Capaldi. I didn't. I still watch. Yeah, I love the show too much to just quit it. I have to see where it's going. Here's the thing. I didn't like Capaldi that much as the doctor Capaldi grew on me Because I started to understand more of his character the more the arc went on.
Speaker 1:I didn't understand why they went old like that right away. This isn't turning into a Doctor who thing. You two are going to shut up then? Damn right, I've got nothing positive to say. We need more Doctor who pants. You're in the wrong group. I think you would like Doctor who pants. You're in the wrong group. You're wrong. I think you would like Doctor who. I think I would like older Doctor who. Tenant's still the best. It's actually kind of sad. He's not wrong about that. We could tell him hey, man, you could watch Modern who and be fine with it, but the only who he would actually like is Tenant, which is the best.
Speaker 1:I'm positive on Matt Smith too. Smith is good. Smith is good. He got a lot of the better campier stories. Eccleston was good, but his was too short For reasons. Good reasons the writers were dicks.
Speaker 1:Tell me a story I don't know. Eggleston was good, tennant was the best, and then Matt Smith was good and then, like I said, I fell out. I'm fucking pissed off that I can't remember her name. She came back for the gutting. Isn't it like Jules, julie Judy Could be? I know it starts with a J, judy, judy sounds. I know it starts with a J, judy, judy sounds right. And then also, what's his name? Magneto's actor was also a doctor, ian McKellen Fossbender. Which Magneto, I don't know. The older one, mckellen, I don't think. Was he a doctor? I don't think.
Speaker 1:In the crossover movie? Oh, it is a J, it's not Jules. Jodie Fosman, jodie Got the Jodie. It's Jodie. There you go. Jodie Whittaker Got there. Eventually. I usually do. It's all up there. It just takes a while to come out. I'm not Wikiman, that's okay. Wikiman doesn't bat a hundred either.
Speaker 1:Mr Idris Elba, of course he was just currently thinking about Idris. He was looking more forward in that situation he was still looking forward to the movie we were going to go watch than the movie we just watched. I was pissing myself off too, because I was watching Shadowforce and I was like that's not Idris, what the fuck is his name? Shadowforce, which was the it was a movie that just released on the slide. It's not horrible, it's probably it's an action movie about a family Movie that just released on the slide. It's not horrible, it's probably it's an action movie about a family.
Speaker 1:And oh, this one, it's very generic, this one. That's part of reason I almost had no interest. I like him. I like that actor. Yes, you know who he played for me Lupin, okay, on Netflix.
Speaker 1:I actually really like him. If he gets more roles, I'd be excited for it because he's a good actor. I've seen him in a lot. Well, lupin's the first thing I saw him in. I actually want another season of that, but I don't think I'm going to get it. You sure, lupin's the first thing I saw him in. I actually want another season of that, but I don't think I'm going to get it. You sure Lupin's the first thing you ever saw him in. Pretty sure, if you'd label something off, I might have. He was technically in the first Jurassic World and Jurassic World 3. He's Chris Pratt's friend and helper in the first Jurassic World. Yep, okay, yeah, I just pictured it. No, lupin was still first. I mean, it's not, but it's one you recognize and know him most for, because that's six years difference.
Speaker 1:I know him from a Bradley Cooper movie. That's the first thing I saw him. In. Which one was that when Bradley Cooper is a chef. That does not narrow it down for me. I have the movie upstairs Because the only chef movie I can think of offhand is Ratatouille. It's definitely live action. Yeah, bradley Cooper plays the live action king chef from Ratatouille. Oh, yeah, bradley Cooper plays the live-action King Chef from Ratatouille. We have Ryan and Burnt Burnt, burnt with Bradley Cooper. That's a great chef movie name Mm-hmm, because Bradley Cooper is burnt out. Do we have anything else to add? Not really. He's trying to get me and Ryan back involved. I think he's fan casting right now.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to find out who the doctor was in that crossover movie, but I can't find it. It's very rare, but I can't find it. It's not. It's very rare Because it was a crossover movie that brought Tenet Matt Smith and the War of the Doctors. I thought that was it.
Speaker 1:But the guy who died on us two years ago, that Doctor, the Eighth Doctor, the War Doctor, yes, wasn't he? I don't think he was in Marvel. I'm kind of pissed off because I should have his name memorized, but that should help you figure it out. Look up the War Doctor, john Hurt. So I was misremembering. Oh, yeah, we know him from a lot. He's dead. Yeah, sadly. Why did I think he was Magneto? To be fair, I'm not going to argue with that based off of here. Here's better Hellboy yeah, okay, he was a dad. Yep, if I remember right. Yeah, he's been in so much. Wait, he was in Spaceballs. Yeah, he has been in a lot. All right, dean, since you're such a justice league dark fan boy and you know that james gunn is actually a fan of that too you've already had your dr fate and you will stand as him. As dr fate. I love pierce brosnan's dr fate, I really.
Speaker 1:Who would you cast as Zatanna? Ha ha ha. Okay, that's an open conversation right there. Let's see who the internet thinks. You know you didn't like it, but you know who gets a lot of fucking. Um, her name from Scream, opposite Ortega Most Barea gets a lot of.
Speaker 1:She doesn't have the. Barea gets a lot of. She doesn't have the. I can understand. She gets a lot of Four, six. Barea gets a lot of. Do you remember the main girl from Abigail, the vampire movie, melissa Barea? She gets a lot of.
Speaker 1:Yes, cast for Zatanna. That's who you would like. You know who I want as Constantine. I think she would do good, as you know who I want as Constantine, though I don't care. Dan Stevens, to be fair, I have a better casting for Constantine. Somebody who's already done it and wants to. Matt Ryan, no, keanu. Keanu has said on record multiple times that he still wants to do Constantine, and Constantine has been older in a lot of the comics. Yeah, but I also think he wants to do Constantine and Constantine has been older in a lot of the comics. Yeah, but I also think he wants to continue off of his. I don't think he wants to merge in with the same guy. He's actually supposed to be able to do a second movie for his original. I didn't like that movie because it wasn't as much comic.
Speaker 1:Constantine and I'm like I don't hate the number one fan casting. I really fucking don't the number. I don't hate the number one fan casting. I really fucking don't. I don't. Let's see if our big buddy right here loves it. I don't hate it.
Speaker 1:Based off of her new show where she's a witch. I don't. What do we got Alexis Daddario? I don't hate it. I don't know if I like that as Hatana. I've heard her speak backwards, so I'm actually okay with it. Number two is probably a long shot on Adoramus. That's probably a long shot at this point. Number four definitely isn't going to happen because she's Ratcatcher. Yeah. Elizabeth Giles is another one. That's number. That's top, I can see her. Yeah, I don't want Camila Mendez, that feels awkward. The the one from Scream I like better than Barea to Dario. Barea gets got a lot, gotten a lot of. And Dan Stevens is getting a lot of Constantine fucking cast too.
Speaker 1:Let's try Constantine. The internet's fancasting for Constantine. Yeah, the internet fancasts for everyone. They literally have websites. Hey, number one, dan Stevens, let's put together your team here. You have your Zatanna that you like. Yeah, you have your Constantine that you like. Who else do we need. You need Deadman Swamp Thing, etrigan. Okay. Who do you cast as Jason Blood? Hmm, why are you laughing after I say that? No, don't, you have horrible timing. Number two is Matt Rice. They want him back. Number three can't happen because he's currently the Penguin. Alan Farrell, really, that's not him as Constantine.
Speaker 1:I don't know, these would be interesting choices, but we have Ewan McGregor. Oh God, he's gotta be a Brit. He's gotta be a Brit. That's his accent. He doesn't have to change it up this time. I don't hate it. You can start to see it as he's starting to age into Obi-Wan Kenobi. He's trying to start selling it to keep his hair short.
Speaker 1:Mcavoy, don't hate. I could actually see that. I think McAvoy can play just any role because he's fucking. That is true. He has that range. I was watching TikTok the other day and somebody tried to fancast him as the Joker. I think he could. Mcavoy can do almost anything. For fuck's sake. Split, yes, with the movies he's kind of being typecast now into that role. The villain, yeah, psychotic. The psychotic villain.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've seen it, but they remade it. It's called Speak no Evil. I love that cowboy in that. I loved it. It's built like a brick ship. This picture may sell me more on it, but our current gladiator because he's smoking a cigarette in the sky, that may sell him. He's more. Isn't he more Irish than British? He is more I'll more than he is. Yeah, which that would work for me. I don't care. Oh my God, is there any other character we should be looking at? Dean named him off.
Speaker 1:You need Jason Blood for the human aspect of Intrigan Intrigan. You need Deadman. Deadman Swamp Thing, but comes in and out of the Justice League dark. He's in there, then he's not. He's in there then he's not. But the mainstays is usually Constantine, deadman, zatanna and Etrigan's always fucking there. That's why I said you definitely have to cast his human aspect. Deadman's pretty much there a lot. Richard Madden as Jason Blood. I don't hate that. Richard Madden is Rob Blood. I don't hate that. Richard Madden is Robb Stark, who we also know for Eternals. Okay, the one that is actually bad at manipulating everything. Yeah, that's basically just Superman.
Speaker 1:I was trying to remember who his character's name was. He's in that room. I don't hate it. Jason Isaacs is on here, but he's on the older side. Yeah, that one wouldn't necessarily. You know Malfoy's dad from Harry Potter. He's super old, I know. That's why I said he's on the older side that one doesn't make as much. So for Jason Blood, it doesn't matter whether he's young or old. I know, because he's gonna be. He's possessed by a fucking demon, yeah, and all he has to do is say one line and there it is. I mean, I'll do this one for Ryan because he's gotta come in at some point. For fuck's sakes. Dean will probably cream his pants if he ever heard that line in a movie.
Speaker 1:Since they just did Barry, do you think they'd go straight for Wally? They're probably going to absolute it. I could see it. I think they would do Jay before Wally. Wally is the bigger Flash that people know more of. We're going to get Bark first.
Speaker 1:I was going to say, as much as I love berries I'm always a fan of a lot of times I would say WALL-E is more popular. Wall-e is the powerful Flash. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. Wall-e was the Flash in Justice League, the unlimited TV show, and shit. It was WALL-E, right? Yes, that's. Everyone knows WALL-E. That's why the number one fan casting for Flash you're gonna love.
Speaker 1:Number two Grant Gustin. Number two is Grant Gustin. He's perfect for the Flash, lucas Till is number one. He most run as MacGyver, as the new spinoff of MacGyver. I don't think you've seen that. Still, for me, barry or Wally I just typed Flash.
Speaker 1:Oh, I could see that. I could see that. Looking at him here, I could see that and I know who he was. Okay, I know, I just don't have a good picture. It didn't give me one. Okay, you know him from X.
Speaker 1:He was in the new adaptation of X-Men. He just looks like a flash to me. That's just a flash, depending on what Wally. He could be Wally, he could definitely be Wally. Yes, I need Wally to be blonde, slash red. I can see him doing it, though, but I don't like it Actually. No, he has to be a redhead. Uh, no, because Depends on the adaptation. Honestly, yeah, it depends on the adaptation. Because Wally West? No, because I really like the relationship that you get from.
Speaker 1:Have you ever watched the Young Justice show? It's a cartoon. So, yeah, I know. So Wally sacrifices himself and Arsenal. Him and Nightwing all grew up together. Well, they're adults now. Nightwing's putting together a team and he calls Arsenal for help. One of the lines that Arsenal, or rather the clone of Arsenal, says to Dick is. You're just looking for another redhead, aren't you? You're trying to replace Wally. The next ones are kind of. I can see one more than the other. How would you feel about Mace Runner being in? Dylan O'Brien yeah, I'll pull that name off my ass, dylan O'Brien he was in the running for Spider-Man.
Speaker 1:It's not a favorite one, but the one I actually can see characteristics of it is Jack Quaid. That's my motherfucker. I love Jack Quaid. There's aspects to it. I can see it, especially as the human side. There's aspects to it. I can see it, especially as the human side. Okay, there's aspects to it, but it's not perfect. That also depends on which. Flash, yeah, but there are aspects there, but those are the big ones. Are we building our Justice League now? Kinda, we did Wonder Woman, we've done Flash.
Speaker 1:How about Martian Manhunter? That one's going to be more voice at this point. You need a black guy, it's fair. I cannot accept Martian Manhunter being a white guy after fucking the Justice League. This needs to be updated because number one is currently dead. Lance Reddick is the number one from the last thing. That would have been perfect. Martian Manhunter, that would have been perfect. Ohia Manhunter, that would have been perfect. Oh, I just looked because he was the one we didn't do. You know who was the top fan cast for Deadman for Justice League Dark? Alan Tudyk. That's fair, he would have fit Deadman's funny, especially when he possesses people. I have faith Gunn will actually do Justice League Dark at some point.
Speaker 1:The number two option is her favorite sorcerer turned evil that they haven't revisited in a while. What Joletta Ejiofor? Very mortal, very mortal. I mean he was just in that motherfucking dip. Doctor Strange, sterling K Brown is an option too.
Speaker 1:I don't hate that one. Who is it for? Reddick was for it. I said personally I was like I will not accept it. This one's for you, omar Sy, who you want more in Speaking of due existence here, I want to tell Ryan this I'm curious about Ryan's.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I've ever Ryan's Get the actual voice actor to actor because he's actually done shit. I don't remember if I've told Matt this, but my perfect he's dead now so he can't never do it. But my perfect cast for a Darkseid live action Michael Clark Duncan. But he passed away. I needed that. I don't hate either Three Mile. That's Darkseid. If he was still alive, that's Darkseid. That's a good one. If he was still alive. That's Darkseid. Just think of his kingpin portrayal. But Darkseid, that's Okay. Yep, that is, he's got the voice of God. Give him back the cat. I know that took our sins. Give him back the big two for Aquaman. Okay, now we're on Aquaman.
Speaker 1:Alexander Skarsgård, I'm not Mr Tarzan. Yeah, he's got, he's got, as long as they do Stuff with his hair. I he's growing it out with Tarzan. They don't film it completely black. He's had short hair and long hair in various movies. So there's aspects there. That was my issue with Tarzan. Why the fuck is everything so dark?
Speaker 1:I can't stop Alexander Ludwig, who we've seen in multiple different movies. Did you watch Vikings? I'm not even familiar. I know of it. Is he one of the mains? It's his oldest son? Yep, but he's been in so many different things. Oh, aquaman you're doing, yeah, yeah, let's see how it looks. Ludwig, it sounds familiar. Yep, we've seen him in so many different things. Yeah, no, he would definitely work for Aquaman and he's in that age range. Yes, I think he would more work for the Rebirth Aquaman too.
Speaker 1:We have our Superman. We fancast, we fancast the Batman, we fancast the Warner, but technically I didn't see the number one option on here. We have all Our preference. What Batman? I didn't look up the fancasting to see what it would give me. I was just going through the list here. We did Martian Manhunter, we did the Flash, we did Green Arrow, didn't we? Technically? Yeah, I mean the number one is Jensen Ackles For who? Dean Winchester For what who? Not Sam Dean Jensen Ackles. Batman, yeah, as Batman, that's been wanted for a long time. No, jensen Did Zatanna, although technically Zatanna's not part of the Justice League. You are right, though.
Speaker 1:I looked up Wonder Woman. Momoa's fiancé's very high on a lot of people's things for Wonder Woman. I mean, if this was Well, it's fun to fancast because a lot of these ain't cast yet. So I mean he's talked about certain things because a lot of these ain't cast yet. So I mean he's talked about certain things. He knows half these people doing other various roles. I mean I'm going to do this just because who would take their turn as Alfred? I just want to see what the internet says as a new Alfred.
Speaker 1:Alfred Pennyworth he's probably too big to do. Pennyworth, ralph Fiennes Still don't know names. We're in the same boat, don't worry, 28 years later. The doctor he was also in the King's man. Yeah, I know he's kind of too big. You mean big of an actor. Yeah, think of how many people have done Alfred.
Speaker 1:I didn't know him outside of what he did there, but I was also a kid when those movies were coming out. The biggest one was Michael Caine. To me, that was a good Alfred. I think Circus was a good Alfred too. I'd take Charles Dance. Well, shit, we already have our Maxwell Lord, so that's a thing. He's too old, but he's supposed to be old. Hey, just enough. Bring this up.
Speaker 1:What do you think of Sean Gunn as Lord at the end, as Superman Fucker killed me with one thing he's recasting his brother, isn't he? One thing liberals and conservatives can agree on Lex Luthor, I'm like we would love every second of this one. Hugh Lowry House as Alfred's girlfriend. We'll love every moment of it. He's got the sarcastic. Yeah, he does. You know what's so funny? You wanna know who my favorite Alfred ever was. My favorite Alfred the fucker from Gotham, that's my favorite Alfred. You might find that surprising, but I loved him. He wasn't bad, master Bruce, and he'd fight too. He can get down and dirt Ian Jane would be fun too. He got an origin story Winston from John Wick. He'd be fun too. I love Winston.
Speaker 1:It started from watching fucking American Gods. He's been in a lot more than that. I said Michael Caine was the biggest one. I was forgetting about the Batman. I was forgetting about Andy Serkis. I was forgetting about that one. When I did it. He got hurt.
Speaker 1:What it would be if they just did Michael Keaton as Alfred, yes, no, as Alfred, yes, no. He's saying Alfred. Ian McKellen's on here. He looks kind of sad. He could actually pull it off right now. An underrated one, christoph Waltz. That would be funny too. I don't know if I could see him as I could, but it would just be fun. That would be more fun than actual, correct? Yeah, oh, capaldi's on here too, on the lower end Capaldi. Yeah, I can see Capaldi over the last one you said he's probably better at. It would be a better Alfred.
Speaker 1:He doesn't like to change up his looks anymore, though. I mean he did for the thinker in Suicide Squad. No, he can't, because he's already in the Suicide Squad. He's the thinker, and that should be canon. They were talking in the Suicide Squad, he's the thinker. So we couldn't do that if we wanted to anyway. And that should be canon. They were talking.
Speaker 1:If they're doing Brave and the Bold, that means they're doing Damian Wayne, right? I believe, yeah God, they're going to just start Batman right there with the oh boy, start him here. Boom. You know that was my issue, right? Why are you fucking starting out right there? I Start a mirror, boom. You know that was my issue, right? I said why are you fucking starting out right there? I have my issues with Damien. I have my issues. There are stories I like Damien and there are stories he's a little cuck, yeah, I mean. So Brave and the Bold, which is usually, you have your Batman and your Robin. You should have started out with Dick or, at the very least, jason, and they're just starting out with Damien. Uh-huh, are they going to have Nightwing? I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 1:Did you see that they're casting live-action Zelda stuff? Did you see those casting announcements? I saw some of them and I wasn't happy about it Because they're like can who cast a trans character? You still got to do costumes and all that stuff. That's not as bad. As I remember, this was his wife. That is way better than the original casting announcements. The trans actor, hunter Schaefer that was the bad casting. That's what everyone was pissed. Why didn't you cast this person? They were perfect.
Speaker 1:Well, they went in a different direction. They wanted to actually have male and female roles. Sorry, outside of Anya, you were going to play Anya Taylor-Joy for Elvin Features. You weren't going to get much else, but she's also kind of too big and too old at this point. They kind of went younger. Yeah, they wanted characters who could grow. Yeah, that casting isn't bad. Yeah, I barely know who any of them are.
Speaker 1:But I just saw that and was like okay, from my understanding they're trying to do the Majora's Mask or not Majora's Mask. I was going to say I don't think that they would do Majora's. I'm afraid of time. Majora's is like the because of JJ. Majora's is like Nintendo's Black Child or the child that they don't want to acknowledge. Oh, they're remaking it. What you want to know how everyone knows. They're remaking it Because they redesigned the kid, the Moon Kid, to be an added character in Smash Bros. The Zelda's live like gonna be a live-action movie. Right, they got a whole stage dedicated to the moon drop. I'm wondering what their plans are for Mario and shit. I keep hearing Smash Bros movie rumors. So I'm wondering what they're doing with that. Mario 2 at some point.
Speaker 1:Smash Bros they already had that map, the map. Well, they didn't have Moon Kid or whatever the hell his name was. I don't know if that correlates to anything, because they had a lot of characters. They're not making new Game Watch and they still have Game Watch in there. Actually, they have made plenty of Game Watch stuff. They just didn't make an official game. It's just like Tomogachi things.
Speaker 1:They went with Easy Money versus Skull Kid. Is who we're talking about? Skull Kid? I'm like I had to look that up. That does not seem right. I'm like Skull Kid. I had to look that up. I was like Skull Kid Okay, it's one of JJ's favorite villains. Sounded Antagonist. It's probably a better name.
Speaker 1:Matt's ready for the top 10. I mean, we're getting to that point anyway. We know when we start getting into shit that almost has nothing to do with like Zelda, then we're like okay, we're starting to go away from comics. The lowest roll goes first. I might be starting. Why did you say fantastic? You know what goes right to fantastic Four? God damn it. No, I rolled a one, so Fail. Oh, two ones. Oh shit, we're going to roll off again. Do I go with another dice if we didn't roll above a ten. You got two ones. Now I'm supposed to have seven. You have how many dice? Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 1:I see numbers on Ryan's list. He ranked them. No, there were numbers originally. He just didn't do anything. He numbered it to make sure he had 10.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anytime, you see numbers next to my stuff, ryan, basically all we do is say the name and yap out why. That's all we do, and the fun part is seeing who's on each other's list. Oh, come on, you have to reroll too. No, who went through one's roll? Hey, that one didn't roll above 10 either. An 8. Wow, I was getting ones. I only roll good during D&D.
Speaker 1:He's not fighting. Yeah, I'm not fighting. He's not fissing something. He hasn't read his list yet. Oh my gosh. Oh, yeah, I forgot. You're second, unfortunately. I got the highest. Yeah, but clockwise, counterclockwise. No, it should be because you were second, because that's the order. Yeah, it's going counterclockwise On the second roll. That's why I said we already rolled. That's not how this works. You're number one, mr Ones. Well, number ten is always kind of my cop-out position, but I can give you a fucking. I can give you a. Who did I? Who did.
Speaker 1:Now, 10 was kind of, uh, there were three characters vying for it. The one I ended up going with was black canary and here it starts. Here it fucking see. I told you he didn't start his list. That that's a horny pick.
Speaker 1:I like Black Canary, I like her dynamic with Oliver all the time, and the ones that were Hawkgirl was also in contention for 10. I actually tied him Hawkgirl and the weird one. That's kind of Without the screech. Without the screech, I didn't hate the screech, I was just wondering what the fuck are you doing? No, fucking Nova. But, um, you have the weird one in there, though that probably either black Canary or this one is a weird one Artemis. I love Artemis. I loved her from the Red Hood and the Outlaws run, a big, strong, red haired woman. What else do I got to say? Diana's rival was Wonder Woman for a time, then died. That's about it.
Speaker 1:Okay, I will say you're gonna think my bottom list is a cop-out, but it still is. No, they are DC characters. Oh my god, they are a part of DC. Why are they this low? Because they are just childhood favorites. Blue, falcon and Dynamite. Okay, that's right. He's trying to think of how or who I remember Dynamite. I don't remember Blue Falcon. Did you watch Scoob huh, scoob, oh god. Scooby Doo movie? Yeah, they were in it. Mark Wahlberg, oh, and disclaimer, disclaimer, because anyone disclaimer.
Speaker 1:There is no Watchmen characters on my list, because ain't no heroes in that fucking shit. They're all kind of pieces of crap. It's our own way to be fair. I like Dino Mutt more than I do Blue Falcon. Yeah, that's that's why I remember Dino Mutt more. I couldn't remember, but yeah, no, that makes me. Had nothing to do with the show. After a while it was just Dino Mutt. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, no, that makes me. It almost had nothing to do with the show after a while it was just dynamite. Yeah, no Watchmen characters. I know they're all kind of pieces of crap in their own way. So there's no heroes. I don't want to have to talk about dick or sex. There ain't no heroes in Watchmen. They're almost all pieces of poop. Love that movie.
Speaker 1:My number 10 is James Gordon. I mean, it works. He's got the signal. On Gary Oldman yes, I loved it. It was great Every iteration.
Speaker 1:There hasn't really been a miss? No, well, so since I had 12. There hasn't really been a miss? No, well, ah, well, so, since I had 12. No, we have about honorable mentions at the end, right? So basically, what you can do is talk about those up until your actual 10.
Speaker 1:Well, I didn't have them in any order, though. That's the problem. Go with your gut, but my 11 was already James Gordon. You can start there. I'll just start with Go with your gut, but my 11 was already James Gordon. Okay, you can start there. I'll just start with the.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's conflicted. He's trying to actually list it out, but it's tough. I'll start with Static. Static yeah, okay, he's super underrated. Oh, yes, he is. Yeah, he is Static Shock. I'm glad I left him off this time.
Speaker 1:Superhero Static Shock, dude, you can't even think about him without thinking of the theme song. It wasn't even a favorite childhood show of mine, but the theme song. Whenever it's Static Shock, I always got a. I can't remember. If there is one movie I would love Coolidge to be attached to, it's Static Shock, because he needs to team up with Jaime Blue Beetle At some point. I can't remember what show it was, but something brought that Static back as an adult and he was overpowered as shit. They did Old man Static and Terry McGinnis' Batman. It is Batman Beyond and he was overpowered as shit. They did Old man Static in Terry McGinnis' Batman. Yeah, it is Batman Beyond. And it was also Justice League. Okay, I'm probably remembering Justice League. I know they brought him back in Beyond. Justice League is actually the one that did the Batman Beyond send-off, where you got the realization that Terry McGinnis was Bruce's actual son biologically. So you might be thinking of the Justice League version, probably.
Speaker 1:Nine Might be controversial because I bet she is higher on most other people's list. Nine is Wonder Woman for me, not on mine, not on mine, not on mine, she's not mine. Nine is Wonder Woman. It's iconic. She is probably the greatest female hero ever. She's the one little girls want to be like and shit. I got to put her on there. She had some good stories. Big strong woman. I'm always going to say big strong woman, that's just me. Big strong woman. I'm always going to say big strong woman, that's just me. Big strong woman. I don't vibe with her as much as other people, but she's still 10. I'm surprised they're like, no, she's not on ours. Okay then I'm not.
Speaker 1:As Read her new run Wonder Woman Laws of Truth. Be fun, I can't ever have that put on me. That's bad, you don't need it. I don't need the last switch. I mean it ain't any more exposed than Power Girls.
Speaker 1:One confession I think was in a comic book. It's like where are you going after this to masturbate about you? That's right in a comic book. Oh shit, you don't need it. I'm still surprised. That's one of the Trinity. Nope, not on ours. Only one of the Trinity is on my list. Really Okay, he's wearing it. Yeah, yep, he's wearing it. None of them are on mine. I like this kind of though. They are on mine. It's your turn. It's a tie. He's got a tie Again. I got no more. Space Ghost and Johnny Quest Rip Space Ghost.
Speaker 1:What do you think of the voice actor? You were throwing me for a second there. I was like what do you mean? It's not that narratively recent, damn it. Another show ruined by a family guy. Cutaway gag for me Because Stewie wouldn't let Haji on the plane. Haji, no, you can't, bro, you're the pug, haji.
Speaker 1:My number nine is Booyah Cyborg, honorable mention. I like Cyborg a lot. He's in my arm. He's so handy to have around. Cyborg is probably my second favorite Titan, if people can't guess my first favorite Titan, it's first favorite or character favorite, titan, let's see. Well, she nevermind. I know Walt. Walt, that answered my question because I thought you did like Beast Boy too. Beast Boy, honorable mention. There you go. Okay, so I'll push my number 9 down to an honorable mention, since you already hit 11.
Speaker 1:Okay, so number 9. Again, not in any order. Just because I was at the bottom, lobo, I guess Lobo fits Because Lobo's anti-hero-ish. I told him anti-heroes were good. I said this, though I left Harley Quinn off mine because she is basically hero now but she still kind of teeters all the time. So I'm going to leave Harley off. If it's just DC characters, Harley's top three. We all know this. Most of mine are hero, but some of them are also villains in different universes. When I made the list I was like God, I forgot Harley. I'm like no, I'll leave her off because if it's overall characters, she's top two or three. I got one who's definitely a dick. Every time he shows up, stuff falls already. Oh, mr McQuickook, close, very, very close. Number eight Eight, dr Alec Holland Swamp Thing.
Speaker 1:Here comes my Justice League, dark shit. Did you ever finish my comic books at all? I finished the regular ones, not the art. You gave me the original ones back in the day. Yeah, so I have not finished. I've always liked Swamp Thing's designs and I've always liked the fact that he's basically just a god. I'm the god of fucking plant life, yo the green. Him and Poison Ivy are just soulmates. I don't care, even though she likes Harley. Oh shit, swamp.
Speaker 1:I told you my list is a little obscure at times For DC. Marvel I'm very. I'm more normal because my favorite characters in Marvel is Spider-Man, number one and Ghost Rider. But DC there's a lot of obscure ones. Dc's got a lot of obscure characters. I like that ain't going to be on most people's tops. Yeah, I've definitely gone obscure. I mean Matt with the heavy sigh and I'm trying to not say that joke, bad family, come on.
Speaker 1:But next and this is me right yes, scooby-doo gang. I mean you have to drive him home later. Yeah, I know. Hey, you wanted me to fill out 10? I filled out 10. Scooby-doo Just wondering how much I've already played. Based off of the way your list is going, I know one thing that has to be on your list and I'm waiting for it. Oh boy, oh God, let's go for it. Do you want me to explain how much I like Scooby-Doo, I can't read that Chicken scratch. I can't read that chicken scratch. Oh, let's see if I floor him.
Speaker 1:Nine number eight is dead man. I was going to put him. I was surprised he wasn't on there because I knew you liked him. I avoided two of yours I knew were on there. I was surprised he wasn't on there because I knew you liked him. I avoided one of two of yours. I knew were on there, that I knew I liked, but I avoided it.
Speaker 1:Just because I'm not going to go in order, I'll also say one thing. One of the things about him, though, is he is a villain in other worlds. Yeah, there's a reason why he's. Yeah, oh, yeah, there's a reason why he's often portrayed as a horror character. I also like the fact that, because Marvel, because I believe Swamp Thing came first. How Marvel just ripped him when they made man Thing One month prior man Thing, because the two shared a fucking room. But I love man Thing in Werewolf by Night, love man ThingThing.
Speaker 1:We're supposedly getting more of that. That's some bitch's. No, call him. Yeah, I was like what the fuck? Oh, my god, we're at my seven. Yep. Yeah, it's Michael I was looking for. I didn't remember seeing the name on your list. I don't have to say much here. Matt's going to be like there. It is the princess of Tamarand Starfire. Matt's like there she is. Look at him, cross it off. He's like I knew it. There's, I knew it. No, he knows what. I'm keeping track of Starfire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, let me say big, big, strong woman and she's got so many good moments, especially in the animated. Oh, come on, I know your favorite one. No, I like when she opens the door, undressed for Barbara, barbara's like oh my god. And Dick's like, yeah, what's up? Barbara's like I'm leaving you, like I can't compete with that. You can't compete with six foot four. And wow, the Titans movie where they're talking on the phone. No, I like when they're in the middle of a fight. When they're in the middle of a fight and Dick's talking about the moves and she's like, oh, dick, those moves, I don't think they can see those. Well, they even suggest that right now. And the fact that whoever came up with the idea she has to kiss someone from the planet to learn her language, and shit. I'm like wow, okay, fucking, fuck man, starfire is great, that's work. It's just like wow, I get the bait with that, because I might be in a minority, because most people like Raven more. I do love Raven, but I like Starfire a little more.
Speaker 1:Ron, what universe are we going to now, jay? We're still in DC. What the fuck are you talking about? I know, but we're To be fair, most of his has been Scooby-Doo Pretty fucking close. It's been Hanna-Barbera. Wacky Races is next. I should have just the fuck with you. I should have, because you know they do exist. Yeah, I know, I should have said Penelope Pitstop, just to fuck with you.
Speaker 1:Robot man Okay, okay, he's got Doom Patrol. So Brendan Fraser, the one I thought was a part of Umbrella Academy yes, really love his character and I swear to God, it's only because of Brendan Fraser that I like his character, because every other iteration of him is not like that. It was great. Doom Patrol was good. Yeah, he thought I was crossing Umbrella Academy and Doom Patrol in my brain. Yeah, he thought I was crossing Umbrella Academy and Doom Patrol in my brain. He was like the robot from Umbrella Academy. I was like there's no robot in Umbrella Academy. Are you talking about the chimp? I was like what?
Speaker 1:Who had put on my list, my number seven? Ryan called him underrated. But I have a minor staff shock. You guys are making me pissed that I actually didn't have him on the list this time. I've had where we've done this list before, but it's been so long I wanted to hear some of your favorites so we just kind of ran it back. I I think my list is almost identical. I've had Static Shock on lists yeah, many lists. I mean now we're at the point where my characters are from the list. I only had great three names for this. Yeah, from characters. Yeah, okay, I'll just go in order again.
Speaker 1:Booster Gold Ah, he was a literally normal person and then stole a bunch of shit and went back in time Just become a hero because he knew what happened. A hero for hire, yeah. And then he actually became a good person, yep, through being friends with the oddest people, ted Kord being one of them, batman being another, and Superman and Superman, yeah, so those three changed his life. That is one of the shows Gunn has talked about doing. He has talked about doing a Booster Gold one. That is cool Because he's a highly wanted character. Ever since his debut in live action on Superman or Smallville, people have wanted him, see him. He's still a lesser known character, though, which is why James Gunn might do. The only show to actually give him credit and do him like his comic is Batman, brave and Bold, the cartoon, which is hilarious because we are actually getting a Brave and Bold movie, so he might be in there. You never know.
Speaker 1:Judging by Superman, we may just get it, which means Matt will have issues with the movie. Why is it? Another gang movie? A gang movie, just as bad One. I'd have it. Okay, be doing it because of is Batman, because of the Bat Family? That's one I wouldn't have an issue with. Yeah, but we're introducing the Bat Family in. That's one I wouldn't have an issue with. Yeah, but we're introducing the Bat Family in the wrong order, which hopefully means that the other ones already exist, as their old three goes. Yeah, if they have Nightwing, they probably might do Red Hood or Red Mask.
Speaker 1:I'd prefer the Red Hood. He needs to be scared of crowbars. Yes, I love it every time. No, yeah, I love it. Okay, martha, nice, give me the crowbar. Yes, damn my joke. My favorite joke off that is still the Godzilla one with Mothra. It still fucking is. It is still the best thing.
Speaker 1:Ever Won't die. No, ever Won't die. No, she can't die, she rebirths. She's a phoenix but a moth. Six, let's see what Matt thinks. Let's see six.
Speaker 1:Oh, kara, zor-el Supergirl. What the-. Oh my god, which version? Wait, supergirl or Power Girl, supergirl? I love Power Girl too. She kind of, maybe Specifically, likes Kara. You can kind of mainly put them in the same thing, but it'd be Kara Supergirl. It's kind of the same things for Superman, the whole Hulk thing and all that, and of course, me being the horny fucker that I am. But she's also a part of one of my favorite DC stories ever Red Daughter of Krypton, where she became a Red Lantern. I adore that story so much. That was one of my favorite things Move 52 did. Where she has somebody from Was it an alternate Krypton, one of them? Little cities they got it's almost like a Brainiac city Stole her life who's becoming Supergirl and she has to take it back. That's her new current run. She's on.
Speaker 1:It's a really nice story. It's decent, it's pretty good. It's only got three, only three issues, three issues right now. Okay, the art's okay. I love for the little girl that's fucking masquerading as her. That artist drew her so ridiculously cake-up and thick it ain't even fucking right, I'm like bro.
Speaker 1:Not every time we have the Supergirl comic come out, they end up giving him one here. Ryan, this is a funny thing At Lost World. When they're picking my cover, they argue what cover will Dean like? It's got sexy ladies on it. We don't know. Well, this one's got Black Cat on it. Dean loves Black Cat, that's true, but this one's got all the Marvel ladies on it. This one, they argue over what color. Matt's over there checking off my list? Like Jesus Christ, I'm not checking off your list. This is a horny ass list. There's all these. You'll find out at the end. No, my, my number six. Here we go, and it's going to be weird hearing this from me, because it's usually him doing shit like this is another tie, because I couldn't decide.
Speaker 1:He's already been mentioned. We have Kyle Rayner. I just like his imagination. I wanted to be a cartoonist and draw things for a living, so him being one of my favorite Green Lanterns is a given wait. Actually, that reminds me the. The thing I hate with him, however, is a brand new character, trinity, wonder Woman's daughter, who has been trained as Bat Family. Fuck, I didn't think about that. Obviously, wonder Woman and also trained Superman, which is why she got the name Trinity. There's also the fact that in her current story she's a fucking time jumper, so she ends up helping herself. Throughout time. She's met her child version, her teenage version and adult version. I know he's delved to that far. I don't know if he's delved to that far. Are we talking about me or him? Yes, what's wrong with me? You'll find out. I can't say it until it happens. This reminds me. I'm happy you said Kyle Riggins reminds me.
Speaker 1:Did you watch Death Battle Raider vs C-Mobile? Yes, it was so good. I'm happy. You know what we're Gernlagen boys. I was like Seymour. Yes, well, you know, canonically, that's Raynor's favorite show. Yep, it is and they mentioned it Kind of sad that he lost to his favorite character. Seymour's imagination and will was just the way they do math. You can argue with Deathbat all you want, but the way they do math sometimes that's the one I told you. They needed a new power scale Because it was literally ridiculous. Man, the ending to that fight was Chef's Kiss. How about you grit those teeth? It was great. I'm happy.
Speaker 1:Seth wanted that For some reason. I'm happy that I wanted that. I was like, for some reason, I keep forgetting. I have Ryan on Facebook. I can't be sad about that. I can't be sad about that one. The next three on my list will all have to play off of my childhood.
Speaker 1:But my number six is Starfire your same horny reasons. I mean, I liked Starfire in the original show, that was the. I liked it in the original show too. But then you go read comics it's like, yeah, I got introduced to her because of the Teen Titans. I've got four out of the five Teen Titans on here. That's fair. I technically have two. I've said two, I've still got two to go. Starfire, sister Three, if you count. Another Starfire Sister, bad too. Oh, blackfire, she bad too. She got her co-op. She gonna drag me, teach me a lesson. I'll just go off of that and say Raven. Raven is my number five.
Speaker 1:I was going in the tangent, but I wanted you to say it. You know why Teen Titans work so well with the females Ravenstarks, just such a contrast of dark and gloomy and bubbly. I don't know what you mean. It's Princess Twilight. No, we're not talking about Go. Go is no, thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm making a joke because it's Tara Strong. I hate that fucking show and the fact that Raven canonically likes the pony show. Yes, but Go is still. I'm just so happy. Was that a Beast Boy reference? No, they're not going for it. They're not going for it because of their relationship. That fucking Not many show. I'll say a show is bad, but no, there is a fucking magical pony show in the Teen Titans. I get it, but it's still an underlying Beast Boy reference. Raven's just Not many. A beast, not many.
Speaker 1:Who did she fight in the NFL? She fought two. She went against somebody from my Little Pony. She went against Pinkie Pie, didn't she Family? No, pewdiepie. Different person, different pie. Did she go against Scarlet Witch, phoenix Phoenix Force? And she stomped the Phoenix Force. Scarlet Witch did fight somebody, but that was more. Scarlet Witch fought Zatanna. There you go, and again, dc does not lose. I was like Zatanna won and I don't hate Scarlet Witch, but you know me, zatanna Damn. I'm splitting my list. The only thing that helped Scarlet Witch in that battle was probably her reality warping. Zatanna does it all the time. That backwards-ass shit Five.
Speaker 1:I just um, um, let's see. I just said Supergirl, so Her cousin Kal-El, I do like Superman. You know what? I'm gonna put it down what? Because of Cavill. Yeah, put it down, that meme won't die. I'm sorry, argyle, although I noticed Cavill before Bryce Dallas. Oh hey, cavill Dean, there's Bryce Dallas. Oh shit, he noticed Cavill's ass before Bryce Dallas. Oh hey, cavill Dean, there's Bryce Dallas. Oh shit, he noticed Cavill's ass before Bryce. Damn it, you bastards.
Speaker 1:Superman's got classic stories, kingdom Come, death of Superman's. In my upper echelon of stories. I say this all the time, though, for Superman, the whole Hope thing I love, but there's like three. Feel free to add characters, but in terms of like the definition of like, hero and shit, there's three characters to me that are just the personification of hero, and that's Superman, spider-man and Cap. Those are my three, always, unless it's a mutant, ryan's probably like I could throw you could throw a couple more in there Like I won't throw Batman in there because he says it all the time I'm not a hero. If I remember correctly, the death of Superman was the number one most purchased comic of all time. Yes, because you killed it, you're killing Superman, one of my favorite DC villains.
Speaker 1:Doomsday Gone. Come on, get it going. Start cooking Doomsday up, isn't General Zod? Isn't General Zod? Yes, I'd like more of a Krypton Doomsday.
Speaker 1:Doomsday's a test tube baby. He's made up of a whole bunch of shit. He's a test tube baby. Kill, kill, kill, kill. He has all the best Kryptonian DNA. You gotta throw this motherfucker in a phantom zone to contain him. Then he gets out Seven Tony in DNA. You gotta throw this motherfucker in a phantom zone to contain him. Then he gets out Seven-five.
Speaker 1:Yep, batmite, batmite. He was wondering where my dimensional imp was gonna come in. That guy just fucks with everything, but he's just a super fan of the Bat family, so much so that he even had a buddy who became Nightmite Nightwing. Yeah, nightwing has his own dimensional lamp. Oh Okay, it's fucking hilarious. Most of the Bat Family actually has their own like thing. It's hilarious. Superman has Mitzel Pistolick, but he doesn't team up with them, like thing. It's hilarious. Superman has Mitsubishi, but he doesn't team up with them like Batmite does with the Bat family.
Speaker 1:Wait, well, there it is that cop too. Keep writing things on the side of his. I'd like to know what the fuck this is. He's going to hurt you. I'm actually giving actual reasons this time around. I'm not just saying a name and you have to figure out why I like him. It technically could be on that too. Alright, teacher, I'm taking a note. Well, my number five was already said. It was Raven, off of his, so you're number five. Come on, noah, you can tell us why you, like Raven, try to be less horny than him. Trigon Okay, dad, the whole Trigon family.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do I want to go in order or do I want to go with somebody that was already brought up? Eh, zatanna, is that your next one, or is that higher? Okay, we've got much higher. There's only four other Zatanna names that can be higher. Zatanna has been stated by people in the Justice League that she's been stated by people in the Justice League that she's literally the strongest person in the Justice League. Who would be a Zat? One of the only people to actually hear Batman sing. He's the best. It would oddly be poetic if Richardson was cast as Batman Because Smallville Zatanna was the love interest in season 2. Yes, beyondly boy.
Speaker 1:Oh, I might actually have 13 people, because it wrote number 5 twice for some reason. Yeah, you do have 13. Right, the same shit I do. I go notepad on my phone to make my list. I traditionally go on notepad. Since I don't know how it messed that up, though, because you just hit enter and it does the new number. Did you take a break? No, that's weird.
Speaker 1:4. Now 3 and 4 are very interchangeable, but the spot has changed a little bit. 4 is Dr Fate. I won't put that one up there. Oh, pierce Pierce Prowson, come on. I've always loved he came on screen and Dean just went, and it wasn't because he was once a Bond.
Speaker 1:Dr Fate, I've always loved his design. I'm talking about Kent Nelson Fate. I've always loved his design, the Egyptian aspect to it. But I love the dynamic between Kent and Naboo all the time, cause that's one of the few people in the pool even you know. That's one thing we did not get in the uh, black Adam, black Adam, not much in the book. We didn't get no Naboo. Oh yeah, we didn't. There was no Naboo, it was just Dr Fate. But that's one of the best things about Fate is because Kent is a good guy, but Naboo is good, but he's ordered To be fair for Black Adam.
Speaker 1:They didn't delve into a lot of the characters all that much. As far as we could tell, kent had full control of the helmet. The biggest backstory, which I believe he does later on, later on in life, which as old as Kent is, makes sense. Yes, out of the heroes in Black Adam, I think the only one that got any major backstory reveal was Adam Smasher, and that's because you got Henry Winkler as the original. Yeah, I still love that. Yep, it was the most backstory we got. Another thing too. I always tell people that ate my brain. He said Henry Winkler's name.
Speaker 1:I wasn't thinking of a scene out of Black Adam. First thing that came to mind was him being swarmed by bees From Adam Sandler's Little Nicky movie. Hey, cover Winkler with bees, you can do it, god dang. Hey Nicky, why Cover Winkler in bees? He's just making a cameo. I like when they pull up with the Popeye's chicken.
Speaker 1:That fucking Goddamn Big Gilmore 2 coming soon. I hope that movie actually is. Oh, it'll be, I think it'll be good. And Little Nicky 2, because that was just greenlit. What the fuck? Yeah, adam Sandler can just do dumbass fucking movies his whole career. That doesn't need a number two though. No, it does not, but he's doing it Arguably. Happy Gilmore didn't need a number two. People wanted it. Yeah, but nobody wants a little Nicky number two. That movie was good wrapped up. Say Mr Beefy. Say Mr Beefy. Say Mr Beefy. Why can I do that voice? He just wants another little Nicky so that he can see Boobhead man again. Oh God, and the fucking Yeti thing fucking Bro on the head. As much as Adam Sandler, as much as Sadler's movies can be so dumb, they're so good at the same fucking time. Oh my God. Oh.
Speaker 1:One last thing about Dr Fate. I always tell people, as all powerful as Superman is, dr Fate can fuck with that man and you people ignore it. Magic Big Daddy With him growing up, especially overloading Yep. One thing about Billy Madison Back to school. I think that one's fine, it was fine where it is. But if you're gonna give something a sequel that doesn't need a sequel, best thing, because then you can at least give it a legacy. That fucking penguin in Billy Madison they kept chasing. The only thing that's gonna suck is you don't have Norm. Oh yeah, I'm glad I called that guy. The only thing that's going to suck is you don't have Norm. Oh yeah, I'm glad I called that guy. Oh, norm was the teacher, right? No, he was just a drunk best friend. Oh yeah, no, the teacher was the fucking creepy, fucking border fucking. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:The wrestler yeah, the crusher, I think was his name or something. Number five, four, four for five, four, four for me. You have two fives, remember. Yeah, okay, I'm crossing them off as I go. I'm going to have to combine. Like I said at the end, it's always the Apple Honorable Magic. That's a good pick.
Speaker 1:Beast Boy's my Honorable Magic. He's always been my favorite. I love his ability in general, as just being able to turn into any animal it seems more fun than just having the abilities of any animal like Animal man. That's fair. He also had a really cool fucking storyline where his powers were given to the world and it was fucked up. Wait what? Oh yeah, there is a story arc in the DC universe where people get infected with his blood or something like that and they all start turning green and turning into animals and shit. I'm happy. He turned into a dragon for our. He turned into a dragon our. He turned into a dragon for Dark Knights of Steel. I've been dabbling in that. He told me to check it out. It's fun. They combine so many stuff.
Speaker 1:Good, yeah, obviously it was from Teen Titans that I loved the guy. Well, here's the joke. I will finish then. Then I will. Obviously, it was from Teen Titans that I loved the guy. Well, here's the. Here's the joke. He kept growing. I will finish off Teen Titans Nightwing Finishing him off like Starfire or hey, only for him.
Speaker 1:Or are you just going to smack him on the ass Because apparently he is the Captain America of DC? Yo man, that'd be bullshit. There'd be a lot of comics tonight where they draw him caked up and ain't right Dead ass. I don't know why. Why are you looking at him that way? You can't not notice. I mean, technically, he becomes Dead man.
Speaker 1:Injustice, oh Fucking injustice. Always my favorite Robin, though Always my favorite Robin. He is the Robin, he is the Robin, he is the Robin. No, I'm going to tell you, though, nightwing's design is cool, but in terms of what they went on to be, jason Red Hood's design is too peak. I love Jason Todd as Red Hood. That design is just All right, thank you. So you take your killer's persona and make it yours.
Speaker 1:My number four is Dr Fate. What is going on? He's just over here vibing with your whole list. When I saw his list, it's like there's gonna be some overlap here. I mean, I am a Justice League dark fuck. That is my one project from God. So what do you like about Dr Fate? Or have we heard it from you already because of Dean That'd be similar, but he kind of talked into it some of it. I like the dynamics, cool, I like that dynamic because Naboo's kind of a prick. Naboo's a prick, yeah, he is. No, I mean, the old gods are all great, yep, yep, but Naboo, the world's going to blow up and everyone's going to die. That is order.
Speaker 1:One of the most interesting aspects of DC are the gods. Oh, the lore of the gods in the DC universe is fucking amazing. Some of so many of them, some of them I don't know if you have Netflix or not and you delve into watching this shit. Sandman, I've not. You know how. Marvel has the one above all. Yeah, well, in DC they just call him the one. Oh, yeah, yeah, where he is God. He is literally the Christian God. Yeah, that's where we get Lucifer, that's where we get everything. He is the one who created DC and Centauri in the original continuity. And then we have fucking Dr Manhattan doing his thing and fucking with it, although I thought there was three gods, so it wasn't just the one, there was two others. He was the one who wrote the main. That's how they did this Before we had the Amaglam universe, where there was that memory between the two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there is. They're not as mentioned, as much though. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's the one and then the two others. I don't remember them. That's the problem. I can't talk about them. You're not wrong, I still just. It just makes me think. Whenever I'm surprised Wicked man over here can't counteract me, he's like hey, here they are. He got me thinking.
Speaker 1:Now, just because you said Dr Manhattan again, how genius New 52 was at the end. It's just, dr Manhattan made this, he's the villain and he's like I fixed it, you dumb fuck. I fixed it. No, seriously, because New 52 actually was great, and then we got Rebirth and Doomsday Clock, and where are you fucking going with your continuity? Like I said, watchmen is just, and now we got James Gunn trying to fix everything exactly. I just think Kent and, like I said, watchmen is just, and now we got James Gunn trying to fix everything Exactly, but no to Ryan's.
Speaker 1:I just think Kent and Naboo's dynamic is sometimes comical With the helmet on, they're just arguing the whole time. But Naboo, thousands, millions are going to die. That is order. They are meant to die. They're meant to die, order. You're on number three. I just imagined Kent like God, you're on number three. I just imagined Kent like god, you're a stubborn fucker. Three, three, zatanna. They are very her and Fate are interchangeable. But I've been reading Zatanna's comic run so she, Dr Fate, ain't had much lately. So Zatanna meet Frogman.
Speaker 1:I keep trying to find more Zatanna. She's got a new run going right now. There's six issues, don't you only have one more issue of that left? That just ended, though. I think it's a mini-series, but she does have a new run going. I gotta go find that. Yes, she ends up getting her own series, but it only lasts for like six issues. Yep, they always find her here.
Speaker 1:New Zatanna run Dean time. I'm damn fishnets in that goddamn fucking magician hat. No, it's just funny. I love how she talks backwards. I love her stories. I like her dad too. Giovanni's dope as fuck too, whenever they use him. Giovanni Zatar no, I'm sorry. Unofficial Second Dr Fate, giovanni Zatar.
Speaker 1:The funniest thing, though, about I just told this at Lost Road about my Zatanna comics Whenever she's casting it's backwards, I'd be sitting there, I'd have flipped the comic. Okay, it's great, although she can cast spells, not backwards. Yeah, they're more powerful that way to her. Yeah, it's yes, but that's because of how she feels towards it. A lot of her magic is emotion based. That's what I like. She's mad. She only speaks backward, because that's how.
Speaker 1:She just had a moment in the new run that I loved and you'd love it too. She was casting a spell and I got all fucked up and then you see I turned a page and it's blank and she's running across it. It got all fucked up and then you see I turn the page and it's blank and she's running across it and she just looks up. Sorry about this, hi, thanks for reading and she jumps back in. That reminds me, since we have already covered Swamp Thing and Zatanna Yep About her being the strongest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those two together remade the entire fucking universe, remade that shit In one of the things Love it, love it. Do you know how many DC characters have the fucking power to? Just? I tell people they have the power to destroy them. Not many have the power to remake them. Yeah, and it was literally nothingness. I tell people all the time DC in most circumstances outscales Marvel like that. Oh yeah, that's why in all of the death battles they don't really lose.
Speaker 1:You want to know the funniest one, one of the earlier death Spider-Man versus Batman, spider-man 1. That's one I think you cannot fault that one. No, I love it Because I love Spider-Man, but I also love Batman. Batman has lost a lot of his death battles, yes, but I think three. Dc has only lost three death battles, and Batman is the one. He's lost to Captain America. He's lost to Spider-Man. Didn't he fight Black Panther too? No, I thought he did. That was a fan one. And Lex lost to Iron man. Didn't he fight Black Panther too? No, I thought he did. That was a fan one. Oh, it was a fan one. I don't believe Death Battle. And Lex lost to Iron man. Yeah, let me see. For some fucking reason I couldn't remember the reasoning behind that one.
Speaker 1:I think their strongest suits were the Difference Banker. I think that was it. He lost to Spider-. No, he fought Black Panther. Oh, did he? He beat Cap. Batman beat Cap, he beat Cap. I can't remember about Black Panther, though I think Black Panther won. Pretty sure, black Panther won. Black Panther's kind of broken.
Speaker 1:So out of all of the DC ones, it's Batman and Lex that is lost. Yeah, the most human of main characters, and they literally put Batman against super-powered heroes. That's the main characters, and they literally put Batman against super-powered heroes. That's the funny thing. And it wasn't like a no-diff loss, to be fair. Batman vs Spider-Man, that's.
Speaker 1:I don't know why they did that. Even with prep time you could make a case, but Spider-Man really has no one because it's too popular. Spider-man has no prep time. Spider-sense Spider-Man has no weakness for Batman to exploit. Really, that was one of their first ones, though, wasn't it? So they were doing it off of popularity. That's terrible. You laugh your ass off at that meme too. But um, and Spider-Man's holding back all the fucking time. He's got ridiculous feats. He just don't like hurting nobody. And he's strong as shit. Yep, like, oh, what's another? Oh, the proportionate strength of a spider. They got um.
Speaker 1:One time Beyond beat 2099, though in Death Battle it was close, but Beyond was able to beat 29. Now, but again, you're carrying the MCU. Well, yeah, he's fucking Atlas right now. The one thing, god, I can't remember Jay's not a big fan of Death Battle, because I don't think Hulk's won one. Hulk's been in two and he's lost.
Speaker 1:He lost to Doomsday and Broly Yep, I mean Broly, broly's Yep, I mean Broly. He's like Broly's fucked up, and Doomsday is literally made to not die, doomsday. I argued with him forever. I'm like no Doomsday wins.
Speaker 1:Doomsday I gave him because, at the current iteration of his comics, hulk can die. He doesn't. Yeah, even with the whole maestro and him living to the ends of the universe thing doesn't give him enough mathematical feats to overpower Doomsday. However, now with the current Immortal Double Hulk and all that shit, he should have beaten Brawley. Okay, I love how he said not Doomsday, brawley, I can understand it, though the second one, yes, no, because Doomsday would have fucking found a way to beat him. That's just who Doomsday is. That is his character. It's literally why he has his name. Mm-hmm, doomsday there is. I love the fact that they gave him as much as they did going against Doomsday, but I don't fault them for having him lose.
Speaker 1:I hated it when I first seen it. Yes, I'm pretty sure that was a close one, though. Right, it was close, but Doomsday won because of his whole surviving a fucking black star and all that shit. He's literally made to survive and kill shit. That's his entire purpose. It's to the point where, well, doomsday is not completely dumb, but he kind of he learns and evolves. It's to the point he became the master of time. Doomsday comes back. Superman's like bro, what you want now? No, I don't want. No, bro, go away. How about the time where he came back and asked Superman to kill him? You kill me, bro. I'm sick of this shit. I'm bored, bro. Literally he became the master of time.
Speaker 1:I always loved Doomsday's design too. He's got like a beard of spikes Spike beard. That's the only Doomsday design you didn't like. He's fucking super skinny. And he's like fuck this. I'm like where's big Doomsday? What the hell is this? And then Batman v Superman happened. I'm like oh no, that's not Doomsday, that's a turtle. Alright, three, three. Red Hood that's a good one. There's only one aspect of Red Hood I do not like, and it's fucking made fun of too much. Crowbar I fucking love it.
Speaker 1:You don't think he has a way of getting over his PTSD. You fucks. No. Joker's put on that horizon. Well, he's proofing. He can't, because he becomes Joker in turn. I guess I can't. I'll just become. I can't get over my fear.
Speaker 1:One of my favorite Chipping his head. Going one of my Call back to one of my favorite and chipping his head going one of my call back to one of my favorite animated movies. You got dick um under the red hood. Do you ever see? Do you ever see Ryan Easton under the red hood? An animated movie under the red hood? Yeah, that was good. I loved that one.
Speaker 1:Bruce, I understand you saving all these other people, but why him open his door? Joker's just in there, can't get over his fucking trauma, yet he captures fucking Joker and puts him in a closet. Batman, you don't understand. And the greatest Bruce answer ever why, bruce? Tell me why you wouldn't understand. Yeah, sometimes, bruce, there's actually one thing I never really understood about Red Hood.
Speaker 1:Red Hood slash Jason Todd Ra's, al Ghul's decision to bring him back. Then he's like oh, I fucked up, I should have brought him back. He wanted to make it up to Batman. Hey, I bring your son back. Oh, he fucked up. Though, yeah, later down the line, when his daughter and Batman have an actual son, he's fine with him dying.
Speaker 1:I like Talia, he grooms him to be the best assassin in the world. He's fine with him. You're talking about a fun dream dynamic, talia and Bruce. Oh, there's you again. I don't like you. You want a bang. Yeah, okay, now we're done. I don't like you anymore. I love it. They're like why can't it be that simple. I'm so glad he brings it up. I almost thought he was going to bring up the worst Talia ever. Shush, if you bring it up, he's going to Quick number three. Alfred Pennyworth, right number three. Yeah, that was it, master Bruce, alfred Pennyworth, master Bruce, and he was my honorable mentor.
Speaker 1:Batman comics are still not the same. I don't know he's. Alfred's not there Ever since Bane killed him. It's not the same. I don't know Alfred's not there. Bane killed him. It's not the same. That was Bruce's downfall. Seriously, he lost all his money and all that shit. And now Damian Wayne's currently teaming up with the guy who killed him In a very bad story. That's not very good. What is up with Hush? What is up with that? Every time you tell me about it, it's just shit. It's not, it just is a lot of shit.
Speaker 1:They got a guy writing it who's been out of touch with Batman forever, hal Jordan, green Lantern, before he became, you know, a lunatic. Parallax Before Parallax Into a god. Yeah, before the Ten Rings. Well, I meant the god part was after that. Wait, no, he's had like four instances where he's gone fucking nuts. Yes, you have the Ten Rings, you have Parallax, you have. I think the first time he's gone white, or no, the first time he decided to put on every color ring. And then when he stole all of the Green Lantern rings, yeah. And then when he became Spectre, he actually.
Speaker 1:Spectre brings up memories because when we did our draft and make a team of DC characters, I said Spectre, no, you can't choose Spectre. I did, I chose Spectre. Now here's the thing. Guy Gardner is that guy. You should have fucked with that way, but they left him alone. Ryan told me he's like. You chose Spectre in your draft. Yes, come on, he was a god, he was a fucking dick. I chose the most fucking human team. Here I am Spectre, dr Fate. I thought I was being strategist as hell. And then, no, dean just pulls out gods. I have gods. We didn't make no rules, it was just draft a team Spectre. We should honestly do that.
Speaker 1:Matt had one achievement, though, because he felt the need. He's like I'm going to take Zatanna to 15 off once here. Hey, in the draft. Yes, that's something he does. Well, drafts, exactly, even though Spectre's a god. I think Zatanna is stronger than Spectre. You could make the case. Yeah, that's just because he works as another Naboo. Jim Corrigan, he's not supposed to. Oh, I said the original one. Oh, he does. He's not supposed to, but he does. Okay, number two. Now my one and two can kind of be interchangeable, going for circumstances. If you're going by who I read more, he's one, but who I like more, he's two, batman's two.
Speaker 1:I read out of DC. I read the most Batman. So many classic stories. I do as much as you can make fun of Bruce's whole philosophy, because I've seen so many people tear it apart and it's kind of funny. I can't be like my villains. Yeah, bruce, but you killed them. Five villains. You've saved how many thousands of people. I thought it was just funny. Martha, oh, my goodness, you thought I was bad. It's his mother's name. Why'd you say that name? Well, I can honestly tell why you two are friends. Why'd you say that name? Stories are there. I can't tell which one of you is the reverse, not to unquote Captain America from the playground to Finn Childhood.
Speaker 1:Another thing I hate about Batman funny thing my favorite character in almost all of fiction, favorite character in all of DC for sure, is heavily tied to Batman and that's Joker. So I see Joker in Batman. So whenever there's a Joker Batman story. I'm like shit. He doesn't even fucking care. I want Joker in every fucking movie and Jay's like Dean. Give Joker a rest.
Speaker 1:No, number two. Number two is technically tied with three, but he has, for the past ten years, grown on me a lot. Lou Beadle, and that's the Honeydew Bayes version. I for some reason love the. That's the best one, I think Not according to a lot of people. That's my favorite. More people love Ted Kord over Jaime. The only reason Jaime gets more hype is because he's young. His power sets are based off of technology. Jaime has that youthful vigor and he's like Spider-Man. He has the Spider-Man thing. That's the other thing. You're growing with him. Yeah, the only thing I can comment for Jaime is he's got the best card in DC he does. He's got one of the best cards in the DC card game that fucking defense card.
Speaker 1:You played the deck building game. I probably still have it somewhere. He's got all the expansions. It's like it has what. I don't have, the last four. It says it died out with us Speaking of. I would love to play it with you. No, ryan probably knows. But Ryan, I'm ready. There's a Spider-Man.
Speaker 1:I had an ulterior motive, potentially, if this podcast ran short. I'm like Ryan didn't know. I told him Spider-Man's coming for the magic and I'm like, if this podcast somehow ran short, I was going to appease to Dean because of what he's been asking for for years what Boats, boats, boats. Oh damn, he's been wanting to. No, no, I've never lost that game. I've never lost that game. He never has. It was fucked up. It was too late. Now there is a possibility of it. You see him and him just fucking leapfrog me. I'm pretty good too. I've won a couple. I've won a bunch. I think in our last game I almost doubled somebody. No, there is one fucking game, one fucking game that needs to be brought out of his house in retirement so he can no longer be Redbeard.
Speaker 1:It's a pirate game. It's a really cool pirate game. You basically have to take over the ocean and you gotta fight people and you can grow. Next to a ship, another person, it's only four players and you can roll the dice. Whoever wins, you take their gold and shit. I won once. I'll never play it again because I'm Shanks. He gave up. I stayed as long as I could.
Speaker 1:Jj was just the dick. Jj was fucking following him around the whole fucking map. Attack again, attack again, attack again. The game was starting to feel like Mega man. I like the Mega man game. It's fun, but You're the only one that doesn't. I like the game.
Speaker 1:But if you keep doing everything you have to do, it takes your ass away. You move across the map and you place these little jewels all over on little islands, and you also gotta sail around and go to these ports and pick up jewels. Jj's not doing none of that, he's just stealing other people's shit the whole fucking time. I'm off. He's being a pirate. He's being an actual pirate. Yeah, he's not.
Speaker 1:He was pissing me off, though, because he was only coming after he wouldn't go after. No, this son of a bitch. The man in the lead Wouldn't go after him. This son of a bitch Would roll. He also killed him, though. The bastard he made Matt give roll two because you have to engage and attack. Then you gotta go away. He'd roll a two to move away from Jay. Then the very next turn, he'd roll like a three and go right back to Jay because Jay didn't move that far away and attack him again. I was in tears Because you've seen me roll in D&D. I was in tears. I was in fucking tears Like what are you doing I'm attacking?
Speaker 1:My number two starts with Justice League Unlimited, but the CW made him fan favorite Green Arrow, charlie Hunnam. God damn it. We don't all live in your dream world. I know you don't want to be in there. Unfortunately, I'm already there, one foot in, thanks to his ass being my friend and working with him, so he's already in the dream world. I was going to make a fluffer joke. Oh no, that's even worse because he did ask. Alright.
Speaker 1:So my number two is John Constantine. I'm in tears now. I'm in fucking tears. You're in tears because of John. That's my one. Yeah, I knew it was his one. I don't. I read more Batman, but I. I want to read more stories, but I can't give him any and it's so old now I have to buy them off of Amazon or something like that, because our store doesn't have the rest. I have number one. Yeah, that's it. I don't even have the second runner. No't have the rest. I have number one, that's it. I don't even have the second runner. No, I have the second run.
Speaker 1:Every single time we go to the comic book store, I look for fucking Constantine books. All they have is Hellraiser. 1. Have you ever been to Lost World? No, they have some there, but I think it's just. They do have a big run. They even have the Lucifer, because I bought that. He had a small run in New Fantasy 2. The other thing they will do is, if you ask them to order something, they will actually do it. Oh yeah, most of the comic book stores do that, but I always forget. Also, if you come in there with him, you're in the comic book shop. Lost World is technically the farthest one away from him outside of. Look at this Unofficial. Uh, it's not the end of the show. It's not the end of the show, but, um, it's Constantine.
Speaker 1:Well, I was just gonna kind of piggyback off of Ryan, but like, I like that, he's just, he's a prick. I like that, he's a prick. I like that, he's a prick, I like that. He's a prick, pretty much. He has all these flings with Zatanna. I love that. He has all these flings with everybody, everyone.
Speaker 1:Still, king Shark, it's kind of Constantine in ways. He's just everything, everything. Yeah, jimmy, no, it's not no, everything. I like his cool design. It's his nonchalant demeanor. Are you talking about Harley Quinn? No, and then you just see King Shark wink at him.
Speaker 1:I love the occult and he's always fighting demons and the occult and shit. That's what I want fucking Marvel to delve into. Maybe I'll get it now. He's strong but he doesn't fight that much. No, when son of a. No, when he's in the justice league dark. Yeah, don't distract him. I gotta cast. And he's doing all this shit. Go, go, go, do something. Even though how many times? Zatana, can't you just do this? No, can't you just fucking do this? I don't want to. He's lazy. I know you don't want to do shit. Did you read? I know he don't want to do shit. Did you read Zatanna and the Ripper? I think I probably did.
Speaker 1:I got this actual book, this thick of Zatanna. It's like a collection of issues, of stuff and little stories. It was a webtoon and then they published it. Is that a check? Yes, okay, but Justice League Dark is also probably one of my favorite animated movies DC has done. Like I said, dark is a check. Well, because I'm pretty sure he stared at a picture of Constantine where he's doing a Jeff Goldblum pose from Jurassic Park. Well, no, and um, older, just price, you shouldn't even try Park. Well, no, older, just priced, shouldn't even try. You know older Zatanna Run. It was funny why, like Constantine, there was the Zatanna Run. I was reading before this one.
Speaker 1:He pops in, he meets at a burger joint and then time flashes forward to the very next page. Oh shit, they're naked in bed. This motherfucker a dog. I love this man. He's a dog. In one of the last Constantine animated movies he literally fucked the state of California. Yeah, I mean, you can't get much more California's already fucked. You can't get much more fucked than California. He literally fucked the state of California. Did he get that off Earthjohn? Yeah, no, I'm thinking of an adult swim show called 12-ounce rat. I'm going to tell you right now.
Speaker 1:I did not expect I'm so happy Ryan and me would be like you're Justice League Dark Boys. I knew Satano. I knew all of them were going to be on there, all of them, number one. Number one is the Trinity. I cannot, oh good lord, he copped out, cop out. You're calling it a cop out, but I read every single one of their things. I can beat them bitches. No, I don't give them bitches. If you want me to put a top above the three themselves, it'd be Batman, because I have more attachment to Batman, but the Trinity is number one Batman, superman Because they influence damn near the entirety of my list, by the way near the entirety of my list, the influence, by the way, since the way your list was going, me and Ryan wrote down things that could have been on your list.
Speaker 1:So, power Rangers, not DC. We teamed up with DC yeah, that was just a crossover, though, but they're not owned, which also corresponds to Kaiju. You wanted me to go DC, heroes, dc, so I specifically went DC. Now, if you wanted me to do things that had I'm saying the way your list was going, the way your list is going, let me start my list then. Godzilla Extension. That's definite, right there, he beats everybody.
Speaker 1:I know who your number two should be. He's legally licensed. I know who your number two should be. Yeah, yeah, he's like I can't fault you for that because they have an excellent fucking movie for that. Yep, they should be getting for that. Because they have an excellent fucking movie for that. They should be getting a 2 because they have a Batman, teenage, ninja Turtles 2 series. Same thing with the Batman, teenage Ninja Turtles, power Rangers crossovers. Are you talking about the fucking Batman and Ninja Turtle movie? Oh, that shit fucked me up as much as I liked it.
Speaker 1:There was so much shit in there that threw me off, like Batman kind of struggling with Shredder, because Shredder's throwing these fucking little smoke bombs and shit, and I'm like Bruce come on, man, smoke bombs and using chi attacks. Come on, bruce, you dealt with this shit. Come on, what are you doing? Shredder using chi attacks, threw me off. Bruce is all lost. And shit Smoke, holy shit. I've never seen smoke bombs.
Speaker 1:My number one, to very little surprise, is back. I wanted to do it, but my voice can't go that far. I'm Batman. Well, I don't know, do you technically have to go that low? You could have just went like this I'm Batman. No, my favorite. All you had to do was gradually get there. It makes you different than us. I'm not wearing hockey pads. Fucking. Bale's voice is forever memed. Every Batman tries to do the same thing. No, yeah, that didn't really. He kind of talked and grizzled, but that was his own voice. Still, my favorite live-action Batman Kill me, I don't care. Technically, by the time he was dressed as Batman, he was wearing a helmet, so his voice was muffled. I said this the other day. My favorite scene from a live-action.
Speaker 1:Batman is still that warehouse fight in Batman v Superman. That was just. Why are you poking me? He bleeds. Okay, I'll come all bleeding, ryan. I'm still all bleeding. How am I talking about bleeding? I don't know. Apparently, you bleed into bleeding because you're wearing red.
Speaker 1:It's well, technically number two and number one because of the way your list broke down. My list broke down and had 13 people. That's okay. Barry Allen and Jay Garrick. Barry Allen and Jay Garrick. Barry Allen and Jay Garrick. I'm not. I made full-on Trinity. It's like oh yeah, no, wally doesn't actually get to my three.
Speaker 1:I like Jay Garrick but also damn it, barry. He came to Thing Only because of the show. Damn it, barry. It's everything Barry's fault. Every fucking thing is Barry's fault. I'm so sorry, but don't forget we are the Flash. I hated that concept of the show. We are great. We are Team Flash.
Speaker 1:Everyone here is the Flash. No, was I trying to think of any honorable Hal? Hal Jordan is an honorable mention. Hal's my favorite lantern. I'm trying to think of anyone. I didn't say Power Girls are she was brought up that girl. I like Barbara. I feel bad because I'm just going to toss a name out there and see if you know Big Barda, that's a big bitch.
Speaker 1:Also, why Jay Gehrig's up there? He's the reason why Earth-1 got into other dimensions, because him and Barry met. That's literally the reason why. I'm going to tell you, though, one thing I do like about Flash Doesn't he also have ties to Earth too? Jake Eric is from Earth too, which is why because he traveled between them and met the Flash Top Earth. You know, it's one thing that always confused me about DC is their numbering of worlds, because they do have a prime Earth now. Yeah, thanks to fucking Convergence. Yeah, I think it was Convergence, which was another fucking odd-ass story. Brainiac, brainiac. Yeah, it was Brainiac.
Speaker 1:So, dean, if you didn't figure out what I was checking off here, I've got a horny count on here. Oh shit, it's a horny count in our on here. Oh shit, the horny count. Yep, get down Cavill for horny count. Is he 10%? Because of our guy? You recognize him as an asshaker Fucker. So you've got 2-9 on your horny count. 9 out of 10? 9 out on his rankings. He also did put an effort to mention Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy, so there are a plus 2. On Son of a bitch, we got 11. He cranked it up to 11. But these go to 11. We did put Pierce Brosnan on the Because of it was fate. Oh Cherry, mine. Well, okay, what I was going to say? How many dad jokes are there I wanted to bring out? Just because he always makes me laugh.
Speaker 1:I do love the villain, just because of how fucking petty this man is. Because he brought up Flash, I love Reverse. Flash Is your number one villain. That son of a bitch Is your number one villain. Specifically, he might be that son of a bitch. That's where I would. I'm gonna go back in time and fuck up your life. I don't like you. He is the deal of DC. It's so petty. It was me, he doesn't. He don't like Barry, I don't like you. I'm gonna fuck your life.
Speaker 1:Nothing beats the terrible voice, the fucking voice overs. There's this one. They voiced over fucking Flashpoint. I still forever. Barry, remember that time you were jerking off. I went back in time and jerked you off at super speed. You didn't know it was me. I'm like stop it, stop it, stop it. You know what would work.
Speaker 1:And the funniest thing about Flashpoint as cool as he is how he died here comes Thomas Lane with a sword. Don't get that. You didn't see it coming. He stole it from Wonder Woman. Yeah, they're fucking fighting. I love that story so much Because Wonder Woman and Aquaman were fucking fighting off each other.
Speaker 1:I like Flash. Funny thing Flash is what I had him in my honorable mentions, but Flashpoint would be in my upper echelon of DC stories I love. I'm still kind of sad you didn't get him because it would have been. I love Thomas Wayne, batman. I love that Batman. It's funny how whenever shit becomes so fucked up, they're always like Barry, just rewind time, rewind time Again. Why can't Superman do it? Oh, because he's fucking evil this time around. Well, uh, justice League Dark. Can't Superman do it? Oh, because he's fucking evil this time around. Well, uh, justice League Dark. They were one time after all of it, oh, another funny thing too. Another point to Flashpoint there's a big. The end is just a big feels moment for me because he gives Bruce the letter.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, which animated movie was that when Constantine puts a spell on Flash to kill Darkseid and fucks with the entirety of the timelines? Was that Dark? I don't think that was Dark. I think that might have been one of the Crisis movies. It was Crisis. That's how't dark. I think that was. I think that might have been one of the Crisis movies. Might have been. It was Crisis, that's how it started.
Speaker 1:Oh well, crisis, because for some reason, darkseid is a linchpin in the universe of DC. He has to be, so. When he dies, a new universe fucking starts. It's actually hilarious because he's the entire reason we have the absolute universe right now. Huh, he's the reason we have this fucking badass Batman that doesn't need money and a Joker that eats kids. Oh my god, yes, a kaiju of a killer croc, a fucking that doesn't need money and a Joker that eats kids. Oh my god, yes, a kaiju of a killer croc. A fucking, well, bomb Bane. I actually do not like that design much, but I do get it. It's too much like fucking the Bane from that Ivy movie where he's just Bomb. You think darkness is your ally. Fucking Mr Freeze, god go. It's just Enderman. Huh, he's this black, fucking tall ass mass that just freezes shit. Okay, then he's not the empathetic villain that he was or used to be. The absolute universe is really fucked up.
Speaker 1:Wonder Woman was raised by Cersei. Huh, in hell, that's the absolute universe currently. Oh, you know the gripes about. Is she just Hela? No, no, no, not Hela Hell, no, she's basically just Hela. She was raised in hell, I know, but I'm making a. She had to fight her way out of hell to live on Earth.
Speaker 1:So Dante's Inferno, yeah, superman. Remember how it was a big thing politically? Oh, he's an alien. He's an immigrant. Oh, they leaned hard into that shit in the Absolute Universe. He landed in South America, oh, as a teenager, and was raised there, oh, and has this new power set where he has fucking fire, fists and shit. So they went hard in the edginess.
Speaker 1:In this universe, best power they gave Superman is still the goddamn Susanoo. They gave the motherfucker a Susanoo. He's probably going to have that. Yeah, motherfucker Susanoo. Oh, and the Flash is Wally, because Barry's experiment to make the Speed Force, which is how it started, he killed himself, oh, shit. And Wally is the one who ended up with the powers. Guess who his best friend is, though? It's a monkey called Grot, I don't know. You would hate the new Flash line.
Speaker 1:Martian Manhunter isn't much better Because it was a dead guy possessed by a Martian now. So it's Deadman instead of Martian Manhunter. I know it's kind of a cross story wise, I flip through Martian Manhunter. I hate that fucking art. He doesn't like the art. It's too 60's psychedelic. It's like a fucking acid trip. Oh, it is. Oh, hell yeah. But I for some reason love it.
Speaker 1:And the Green Lantern storyline Absolute Martian Manhunt yes, that is some shit. Absolute Green Lanterns. Hal, john and Guy all exist, oh God. But the new Green Lantern is a fucking female. I haven't read three yet, so I don't know why it chose her. But the weirdest fucking part about this is Hal Jordan. What the fuck? He has the power to death. That's the Martian Manhunter. Yes, yeah, and I'm an art Nazi. That's the Green Martian. I'm an art Nazi. That's the Green Martian. I'm an art Nazi.
Speaker 1:Wait, is that Constantine? It was Constantine. Behind him, it's a trench coat. Who do you think it is? You want to know the funny thing about that Constantine? No, don't ruin Constantine. Multi-dimensional, that's all I'm going to say. I don't Multi-dimensional. That's all I'm going to say. It's your Constantine, just not your Constantine. I mean, it's Constantine. That makes sense. Well, for fuck's sakes, darkseid died and now we have this universe. You're going to see Constantine. I'm waiting to see DC do more stuff with. They're probably not going to, because Neil Gaiman and all his bullshit Pre-order a Samsung Z Fold.
Speaker 1:Oh, such a beautiful day. Horny, horny, horny. Just Dean's brain on it. Yes, I mean, you fucking did a horny counter. You went to 11. I know, god damn you, this is spinal tap.
Speaker 1:I do recommend Absolute Universe because it is a great read. It is something different. Okay, it is something technically new. I say something different. Okay, it is something technically new. I say technically new to DC Read the download. So we can yeah, I love how I'm whispering. You don't need to whisper that, you can say that out loud. There's a store you can go to to get it. Yeah, lost World of Wonders, best store in the Milwaukee area.
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