Harmonizing Talent and Technology in the Heart of Africa
Jan 25, 2024
Brian, Epoch, Jenny, Lido, Block Jock, Noodz
Embark on a captivating journey with Sunny from SoundRig, as we uncover the power of music to transform lives within the Kokuma refugee camp. Our latest conversation explores the creation of a music studio that serves as a beacon of hope and independence for refugee artists. Together, we tackle the myriad of challenges these artists face, including the unsustainable nature of commuting to far-flung studios and the pressing need for a platform that amplifies their voices beyond the camp's confines. Sunny's insights into SoundRig's role in fostering ownership, skill development, and breaking away from the legacy music industry model underscore the transformative impact of this mission on the artists' lives.
Witness the inspiring alliance between the University of Nairobi and Kokuma camp musicians, culminating in an EP and documentary that echo the soul of music born from adversity. This episode peels back the layers of the 'forever giving tunes' model, showing how NFTs and social media are not just buzzwords but vital tools in marketing and sustaining creative expression. The discussion illuminates the intricacies of setting up a community staking pool, offering a glimpse into a future where studios not only flourish but become a legacy for nurturing talent and ensuring artists' financial empowerment for generations.
Lastly, the episode celebrates the synergy of education, technology, and community, highlighting the partnership between the Cardano Foundation and the University of Nairobi that is forging a new path for blockchain proficiency. We share a vision of a world where music and technology intersect, empowering individuals with verifiable credentials and connecting African rhythms to a global stage.
Embark on a captivating journey with Sunny from SoundRig, as we uncover the power of music to transform lives within the Kokuma refugee camp. Our latest conversation explores the creation of a music studio that serves as a beacon of hope and independence for refugee artists. Together, we tackle the myriad of challenges these artists face, including the unsustainable nature of commuting to far-flung studios and the pressing need for a platform that amplifies their voices beyond the camp's confines. Sunny's insights into SoundRig's role in fostering ownership, skill development, and breaking away from the legacy music industry model underscore the transformative impact of this mission on the artists' lives.
Witness the inspiring alliance between the University of Nairobi and Kokuma camp musicians, culminating in an EP and documentary that echo the soul of music born from adversity. This episode peels back the layers of the 'forever giving tunes' model, showing how NFTs and social media are not just buzzwords but vital tools in marketing and sustaining creative expression. The discussion illuminates the intricacies of setting up a community staking pool, offering a glimpse into a future where studios not only flourish but become a legacy for nurturing talent and ensuring artists' financial empowerment for generations.
Lastly, the episode celebrates the synergy of education, technology, and community, highlighting the partnership between the Cardano Foundation and the University of Nairobi that is forging a new path for blockchain proficiency. We share a vision of a world where music and technology intersect, empowering individuals with verifiable credentials and connecting African rhythms to a global stage.
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Speaker 1:
Oh, snacks. Welcome everybody to Cardano Over Coffee. We got a great show for you today and remember, you can join us live on X Spaces Monday through Friday, 9.30am EST, 2.30pm UTC. Wow, we got a great show for you today. Joining us is Sunny from SoundRig. Soundrig is a music experience platform. They're on a mission to create a more equitable music industry. They want to treat artists with respect. Listen in to some of the amazing things that they're doing inside the Cardano ecosystem. Welcome Sunny, aka SoundRig. It's not that he wasn't already here.
Speaker 2:
That was a wonderful, wonderful introduction. Thank you so much, everyone. I think I can still say happy new year. I haven't spoken to you guys in a while and it's still January, so fuck it. Happy new year guys. Happy new year everyone.
Speaker 3:
I have my Santa hat on, exactly. I look at that all the time, and Sven's does too.
Speaker 2:
So you still got Santa hat on, I can still say it, it's all good. But, yeah, it's really nice to be here. A lot has happened since we last spoke and I'm sorry I don't get time to come on here, but everything is really just full on, and in a good way. Of course, everyone knows what happened in the last vote. Right, it was game to bits again and I guess we weren't really surprised and some people were hoping that it wouldn't be. We were one of them.
Speaker 2:
But then we were like, okay, that's not going to stop us, because there's people out there in Kokuma refugee camp who have been given promises before and unfortunately, sadly, they've been left broken hearted, broken dreams, broken promises, you name it, and I was determined not to be one of those groups, of one of those people or entities or whatever you want to call them, that had done that. So actually, jenny here, do you guys, and Broder, you might even remember as well, it was in this space where we were talking about what was going to happen and it was Session who asked the question and it was a very valid question, and he said why don't you guys just like give him $2,000, $3,000 and like just send him to a recording space, do you remember?
Speaker 3:
And you said that you did right and I was very expensive or something.
Speaker 2:
Well, yeah, so this is what we have been working on for the last two, three months, let's say, and that was, like I said, a valid question. So we wanted to test the hypothesis right, because I had never really known, you know, like, why can't we just do it? We can't do that right, but in my heart I knew that was not sustainable. But I think it was a fair question. So let's put it to the test. So after the vote, we were obviously stuck we, you know in the same financial position and still looking to build out Sound Rig as a platform. You can hope to onboard and build these studios all over the world, but if you don't give them a platform to reach the outside world, which is what Sound Rig is, then the whole thing doesn't work. Hence why we've got two proposals right. So we'll get into that in a bit later. So what we did was we put the plan to action. We got eight of these guys. Six of them are artists. One of them is a Betty who's been there from the start and he's going to be the studio manager. He's at the mentor. He bought them all up. He's the guy who was bought up in the refugee camp but never left and never left the kids behind. So he became like a social worker there, and then one guy called John and he is the cameraman and he was a fly on the wall, so to speak. So we got them a trip to Nairobi. They spent seven days there. It's an 18 hour drive in a bus to get there. They stayed in some apartments, we got them studio time and they also managed to have the opportunity sorry to perform at the University of Nairobi, who are also our partners in this endeavor, and this is an experience that they'd never probably gen for. I mean, they told me they had never dreamt that they could do this and, as a result of this exercise, we did prove their hypothesis to be completely unsustainable. First of all, who can pay? I mean, it costs like around $3,500 to actually just get them to a studio, give them board. Nothing was luxury, it was just nice, right, comfortable. I was certainly inexperienced for them because better conditions than where they live, and it was just everything we wanted to do as genuine as possible in terms of like realistic right. So, but it still came to three and a half grand If you look at all the mixing, the mastering and the studio time and the productions a lot. So we're like, okay, well, this clearly wouldn't work if you're going to give them three and a half thousand and then wait for them to make their money back for them, and then whoever invests in that has to make their money back first, because that's how business works right, unless it's given to them no-transcript.
Speaker 2:
Even if we did that, where is the skill? Where are the skills that are to be learned, like, where is the ownership of this location that they can call their own? Where is the? Isn't that the legacy system? There you go, thank you very much. Right, this is the something that we're trying to get away from, and blockchain is the vehicle. Right is the is the journey towards that freedom.
Speaker 2:
So I was like well, this is clearly not worked in the past and and and nobody really tried it because of those reasons. So, like, this is why we need a studio in a refugee camp. This is why they need it in their backyard, so they can book a time whenever they get inspiration and go and record, and for those that want to learn the skills of how to be a sound engineer or a music producer or a film producer, because these studios would be multi-disciplined There'll be music and film and art right. So there's something for everyone there. But music is the, is the vehicle that's the love of the music that's, you know, brought us to them. So that's what one of our proposals are. So, as a result of this exercise, they've now got a six track ep, which I'm very excited. I mean I could play a track for you guys if you want. Um, a little bit later.
Speaker 1:
I do yeah, and I don't care what anybody else six track ep.
Speaker 2:
Two of those tracks were donated by Our community, actually, um. So we've got a new artist up and coming, artists from, I believe. He's from new jersey and philadelphia, grew up in both places. Now he lives in north carolina. His name is dollars rage. D o l l a z please follow him. He's amazing, uh, dollars rage, and he's coming to sound rick soon.
Speaker 2:
And then there's cavalli white, which I'm sure you all know, and odd shape shadow. So odd shape shadow wanted the opportunity to um To try his first ever afro beats, so he smashed it out of the park with that one and I'll play that track for you after. And cavalli donated the lyrics. And and then odd shape shadow also Donated. It's time to do the mixing and mastering because, uh, there were six tracks and you know we couldn't afford to get all of them done, so so, yeah, so there were six track ep.
Speaker 2:
But In addition to that and this is what we're really, really happy about is that the fly on the wall, who is john, who filmed everything, um, while they were there, like the road trip that he did the interview before there and it just documented the whole experience, right, um? And then the university of nirobi team also Gave us a film crew, and this is where the whole symbiotic relationship comes into fruition, because what we did was we had signed an agreement with the university of nirobi to say that any students who partake in projects with the refugees In in the studios when they're made, we'll be able to put that, put that real world experience, towards their university credits. It's never been done before. This is like a world first in that respect. So so they, because when they Well, these students in particular I'm not sure about the, I mean, I'm the us and the uk you probably do get opportunities to like, go out and do something.
Speaker 2:
For them is all theory and you can't really hope to become a film um producer or director or an editor, whatever if you don't have real world. You know experience, right, and a portfolio, even when you're coming out of university. That's vitally important. So so we've, like, picked all the unboxings, so now they're gonna have, uh, their own work that they will be be able to reference from us to say that they worked on this project. That project will go towards the university credit, so towards their degree, and also the the music artists, uh, we'll be able to use that content towards the social media marketing their, their tunes. You know the sound re experience, so some of it will be locked and only available for the people who support their nft drops or their tunes drop and and that is the first time we've been able to test that relationship and it's worked wonderfully.
Speaker 2:
So we've got a six-terrain EP that's just being completed last week and we've got a I think is 45 minute to 60 minutes top, about at least 45 minute documentary that's going to be coming out In the near future I don't want to say when, uh, because we don't really know. Like this is down to the students. So they're doing all the work, they're doing the editing, everything, um, but you get a chance to see their journey. Basically, like, you get An opportunity to see the life in the camp where they're coming from. The need for this white white is important, that we are doing this Um and how it will affect them Going forward and the opportunities that it will create by bringing cardano into the refugee camp by way of creative outlet and a community staking pool, um, and so that would be the way that we create this self-sustaining studio so they'll be able to sell the music from that's created in that studio and 10 percent of their revenue will go back into the, the running of the studio. So that will be one half of how we can make it self-sustaining, and the other would be to, um, do an what I'm calling and tell me if this is easy or not, but I don't really care anymore, but it's gonna stick. It has to.
Speaker 2:
Like it's called forever giving tunes and the idea is that we use CYB 68 is a way to create a certain amount of tokens that people support is that is like a donation, basically. So they buy this, they get a CYB 68. This is a dynamic NFT, right? So All of the, the, the, the life, all the experiences of the people using that studio, they will, you know, occasionally, regularly, update that NFT with the content so they can say hello, they can say, you know, messages of thanks, whatever they want, and the people who have supported them by buying those NFTs as forever giving NFTs will be able to see where their money is going and the sale that 100% of that so standard, obviously will not take a single penny from that.
Speaker 2:
But All of those NFTs, whatever it generates, will use that to create a staking pool for Kukuma refugee camp. So that you know, you can put this is delegated a certain amount of. These are 50,000 or something. So whatever we raise, we put there. And then those artists who start, who are making money from selling the music or film or whatever, they will be able to earn a data and spend it and or save it and, by the case of it, by staking it in their own pool, so that they're saying the pool, they get rewarded from the pool, but the money from that pool goes into maintaining the studios that they're using for free for life, and in that Model, I believe it can be truly self sustaining and and allow for future generations to continue using that space. So that's why it's very cool so who are you?
Speaker 3:
So you're teaching them how to the tech side as well. Yes, you're teaching them. Yeah, what? What part like for the state for operation, for example?
Speaker 2:
I like to work with partners rather than try to do something that I can't do.
Speaker 2:
There's no point in me doing that like so. For example, we're team up with the Cardano Foundation and they are helping me bring together the educational side of doing that, and the University of Nairobi are in the works of kind of creating it like a, an additional course. It's a course that the students can choose to do, is not compulsory, but you know, when you go to college and you do these extra additional courses that you do for For the enjoyment of it, right, or to add to your, your whole educational experience. So the idea is that we will. Whatever we do, the University of Nairobi will also be accessible to people in the refugee camp and it's going to be like a one year syllabus that takes them through the basics to being able to do all the technical stuff, and I believe the delivery of that education should be passed over to the partners already in Cardano who are already specializing in that. So this is like that's pretty cool, simba right. So to impact through business alliances, that's the whole idea.
Speaker 3:
so Now I just want to, like before, like, ok, so you're partnering with foundation which, the foundation, which is really cool, are you do you have plans on using? You know they just recently developed that identity wallet as well. And then, do you know, like, whatever they learn, are they going to be earning? You know, things to prove that they're actually getting better at this, not just within their own circle, but be able to show to the world what they, you know the skills are acquiring? You know, just yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:
I mean all of that makes logical sense to do right. So I think the need for those things will reveal themselves as we get there. But, jenny, that's like quite far away.
Speaker 3:
I understand that. I'm just saying, like, if you want to show the bigger picture, for people to actually see the valley of, you know, like when you do this proposal is right and you have the value for money, I think that it like it's important for people to understand what can grow from this right like what is like, what's really out there. What can this lead towards, instead of just being always not just. A lot of people have and you know this, being in the music world, this is my life it's, you know, people taking music seriously and what I can really bring to people and the importance of supporting this kind of projects. It's not just like, oh, this is for music people, it's not like that.
Speaker 2:
No 100% not. It's for people you know what I mean and it's for the people that need it the most. Right, and it all goes back to the original whiteboard video that made me believe that this is the chain, this is the community for this type of project and for addressing these kinds of issues. And ever since we heard that Cardano was gonna be a Tala Prisma, I believe, was gonna be in Ethiopia and do the whole university students IDs and all that stuff right. I'm not sure what happened with that, but the technology is there and it's been developed a lot more since then. So it would be logical to combine that with the course. So once they pass the course, yes, they get an NFT, which is their certificate and proof of education and completing that education.
Speaker 2:
Absolutely, I'm all for it and I would love to meet the people and I believe the Cardano Foundation will support me in finding the right people right.
Speaker 2:
So that's what they're best at doing. They already reached out to me and saying put me in a telegram group and say, sunny, if you need anything, whatever you need, just let us know and we'll do it. So I've already said to them guys, I need someone to help create a course for Cardano education from the basics to intermediary for the first year, let's say, and we wanna deliver it to the 84,000 students a year coming to University of Nairobi and remember that's one university in one country and they've got 84,000 potential Cardano community to learn about it and then leverage the opportunities that the blockchain brings them right, and especially Cardano. So imagine that replicated all over Africa like it's exponential growth. And so the whole point of this exercise I mean these proposals is let us go and show the whole community how it can work and then you know, everyone can get involved now if they want to. I'm all the more than open, but I just wanna make this really work and then we can just take over the world, basically in a good way, in a good way.
Speaker 3:
And I know we have a couple of people here with hands. I just wanted to ask you about the promoting of the once you record and all that stuff. Do you have any plans for what it is promoting the music, the talent and helping them get their music out there?
Speaker 2:
Yeah, absolutely, jenny, and I would love for you to come on this Saturday's show. So we've started a new space. It'll be the third episode. So, in short, we've got a podcast, which we normally do just when an artist is releasing, but we're working out something with the team in Rwanda who've got a media hub and they wanna be part of this. So we're gonna do like a global podcast where you've got artists in Africa in their studio and then we are inviting artists from around the world and we basically share the experiences so they can share their stories. We listen to the music, the artists in Africa in the studio there can perform live and it will be just be a really fun space, right, and that's like the video element of it.
Speaker 2:
We've got the space X faces, which we've just started with Robin Charles. Robin Charles is the youngest daughter of the Ray Charles who signed Georgia. You remember Jamie Foxx played in the biopic and she's part of the team now as well. In fact, we signed her yesterday. She signed on as the chief communications officer, so that's a big win for us, and she's co-hosting the spaces and we're calling it African Music and Beyond, and the idea is similar to the podcast, where there'll be at least one unknown upcoming African artist on the space and then there'll be one other artist from somewhere around the world and they will come, we'll play the music, they will tell their stories and they will share the experiences and the community can get involved and then they'll be told where the music is gonna be released, when it's gonna be released, et cetera.
Speaker 3:
It will be cool if that can have their radio station within the.
Speaker 4:
You took the one.
Speaker 3:
Have you heard of La Colifata? It's a first radio show that comes the airs from a psychiatric hospital in Buenos Aires and it basically gave, they basically brought tools for the patients and patients there that live there to express themselves through those radios, and then it's been running for years and years and it has been an amazing experiment that turned into a real job for people. So, just taking that, I think like well, this is refugee camps and they have all this equipment and they're learning. It will be great if they have their own way to put themselves out there as well, instead of relying on other people to play them and shut the light like have that opportunity within their own compounds. I guess you know, but anyway, 100% of the time, jenny and.
Speaker 2:
I do wanna get to these hands, but let me yes.
Speaker 2:
So we partnered with about a month ago and they're actually co-hosts of this space that we've done, african Music and Beyond, and they're called GOA Radio and GOA stands for Gods of Africa and they actually have the Binance Chain. They've got their own token and everything. But the reason why we joined with them is that on Binance they don't have any decent form of music outlet for NFTs, for their artists who make any revenue. So I said, look, why don't you bring your artists to the Cardano community? We've got the huge and growing space here. People love.
Speaker 2:
The music is another opportunity for African artists to make revenue, but through their own app, which is like a listen to earn model. We'll be playing those artists on their radio so the viewers or the listeners, get more and more content to listen to and they earn while they're doing that. I don't know how their model exactly works, but the artists will do that. And going back to the studios in Kukuma, remember when I said it was a multi-disciplinary studio. So the idea is to have music studios and a space for them to do filming so they can create the extra content and in that space would be like a podcast space, for example. They can put, they can rearrange it modular style however they want, and they will be able to create their own podcast from their own, like live space recording whatever they want. Essentially, the idea is to show them that creative and artistic freedom comes from your soul, your heart and your imagination. Here's a space to do it, here are the skills that you learn, and then go ahead and do it and make whatever comes to you.
Speaker 3:
I wonder how much of a cost to get them syndicated. I don't know. We gotta get the hands. I don't know who was first. Was it Cardi? And Overview?
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I think it was Cardi and Overview and the A I love. I'll see you, brother, you're next.
Speaker 4:
Hey, how's it going? Can you hear me okay? Yes, perfect, thank you. Yeah, I was having some issues earlier, but anyways, yeah, I'm also a artist as well, and I put out a couple of songs last year and then we released some of them this year one of them at least this year and I just signed up to Soundrigio and uploaded myself. I'm wondering how long it's gonna take before it's available for people to listen to.
Speaker 2:
That's an excellent question, cardi, and Overview. So what we have right now is still the MVP right, and this is directly connected to the second proposal that we've got, and we can't hope to onboard artists at speed and scale like you can on Spotify if we are stuck in MVP. And I put in as much as I can and I've worked on it and all my finances have gone into maintaining it and keeping it up, and so right now, in answer to your question, this process could take up to about two weeks, and the reason why is this I would you completed the application form right, the artist application. Is that correct?
Speaker 4:
Yeah, right now, while you were talking, I went to the site and I uploaded all the files and everything.
Speaker 2:
yeah, Awesome, all right. So this is how the user journey works currently, right? You would get that. When I see the email, I would look through all the information you've given. If everything looks good, I would send back a welcome email and then in that would be a calendar invite. Then what would happen is you would book a time in and we would talk, and if you're new to crypto, the first few things I would ask you is like you know what's your experience?
Speaker 2:
Obviously, you are not new to crypto, so we would probably skip that part and go straight to the music and experience you want to create, because the product that we've got is called tunes, and tunes is a multimedia music experience, and the idea is that we're doing for music what DVDs did for film the content that you want on there to be locked as in. Only for the people who supported your music we can encrypt that. The only place that decryption key exists is on the player, by the way. So we create this experience, right, so it could be behind the scenes, could be you having a jamming session with your band, whatever you want, and then, once we've created this experience well, that is then comes back to the artist, like, do they have the music ready. What do they want to create? Normally that takes about two weeks to a month, depending on the artist. Some of the artists especially the ones in Africa who don't have access to the studios well, they've been waiting six months, eight months for this right, so they're back to the journey. So once we've got that, we upload the music, if it's brand new, to something called Unchained Music and it's a Web3 DSP. They send it over 220 streaming sites. They also collect all the revenue in one place so you can pay out for free and they're Web3s. They also track the ISRC codes and the USP codes on Web3 as well as Web2.
Speaker 2:
We use, we partner with them because we're like well, they already exist, they've already done all the hard work and it makes sense to do that so we can focus on the artist and the social impact side. That normally takes 10 days. And then what we say is look, let's just do a 10-day to 14-day marketing thing. So we set a date two weeks after that, roughly, and then that's when we will have you on Sound of the Future podcast, where you come and we, you know, share your music and share your story, your journey and everything, and then we'll have you on the Spaces Also. Our friends at the Listening Room also always are very kind in letting any artist that's releasing sorry on Sound Rig to also join their Spaces as well. So, and then we've also got our New Space, which is the Africa Music and Beyond, where you would be featured and then we do this promotion run and then release your music on Sound Rig as an experience, as a limited edition experience.
Speaker 2:
Oh, that makes sense, I think she said something, but I might cut you off.
Speaker 4:
I hope that makes sense. Oh yeah, I'm saying, yeah, cool, cool, yes, it does make sense.
Speaker 3:
All right, ai, what's up, my friend?
Speaker 5:
I love what you're doing sound red man, the initiative dealing with the people over in Africa, you know, highlighting those artists and utilizing blockchain technology to help facilitate and improve the well-being of people's lives. Man, this technology is here to serve as a disruptor and you are helping to facilitate that at a high end and through the industry of music. And yeah, man, so I look forward to definitely chopping it up with you. I know last time we spoke, I'm always coming with some bombshells, so I got some new things that I've been working on and I would love to see what sound red and lovers labs might be able to conjure up here shortly. Man, in the future, is that insider out?
Speaker 2:
You dropped something hot there. Man dropped it like it's hot. I've been waiting for that response for a little while now, but I know you've been busy and we had the whole holiday season and all that. So 2024 has started off crazy for us and I want to keep that momentum up. So yeah, make sure you get in touch quick, quick.
Speaker 3:
Sunny, I am excited about this project. You know, I've been since the beginning, so I really hope that people get to see it and vote for your proposal and, like I said before, this needs to be something that happens. Whether you know, catalyst understands that. Now Just keep pushing it until you know, even if it's a slower pace. So you know it's hard to get, and I just say it because it's the truth. Like catalyst has so many proposals, and I mean I, now that I've been doing moderation, I've been getting so involved in a lot of different things I get to come across so many amazing of proposals that I it's really hard to come across them, so many of them, and so please don't get discouraged. I say this because you know we're getting ready to start voting on these proposals and we just have to find the right ways to shed the light and the proposals that we believe in, and with each iteration we learn. So I wish you the best, my friend, and I really mean it. I think that we should.
Speaker 3:
Um, I was just reading right now about, you know, the the radio use, and I think we should explore into this. Whether you know, of course this proposal is already up for voting. But, um, I'll be more than happy, by the way, to to sit down and and and bounce ideas, you know, with you, but it looks like radio in in Kenya and it's it's, it's what's up, right, like they use especially rural areas. It's all about the FM receivers, it's all about the airways, and I think it will be really good to explore the possibility of licensing to make sure they get to. You know, this is where they need to go, they need to be listened by the people around them and and also it opens up the possibility for them to be able to get sponsorships and and expand.
Speaker 3:
Even Cardano, you know, can, can have some sort of. You know we can, we can have projects that, that they can spread the word. You know you have Lido Nation with education and things like that, uh, and in queso agilí, english and espanol, and and they can, you know, put their little, make, make themselves known locally and use that as a as a form of expansion. Right, start from local out, so, which I believe is how things work.
Speaker 2:
So exactly that's what we we're doing, jenny like we're starting there and we're going to expand from there and show them what the world I mean. Show the world what exists there, the talent that exists there, the hopes and dreams that exist there and what can happen when you support them. And I'm glad you touched on the sponsorship thing because we've had, we've got contact with people in like pioneer, for example. Uh, we've spoken to people who said if you can just get past this bit, we will support you. So what they're trying to say is they want to. They don't want to be the first movers, but they're like saying that we will support you if you could get to that point and and that's where we kind of are right now right, so if you can get to that point with the Cardano community, I I genuinely feel that when the, when we progress, the people that they will remember, the blockchain that they will remember and the one that they will stick to is the one that genuinely helped them from the beginning.
Speaker 2:
And there's no other competition.
Speaker 2:
I mean, we don't have competition in terms of the blockchain space, because no other blockchain has a community like ours.
Speaker 2:
They don't have a leader like Charles, who did these whiteboard papers and videos and spoke from the heart and said, this is what Cardano is going to do, right, so we have no competition in that sense. So why shouldn't we get behind projects not just ours, but anything like Empower and all that that are doing? These things that are going to help people because I mean the majority, the vast majority of the world, if you ever like it not are in developing an underserved and underprivileged nations. Right, they're the ones that need the blockchain more than they we do in the west, whereas the technology is kind of stuck here and it's not getting over there. So we need to support the projects that are helping to do that and that is going to bring the the one billion that Charles was wanting new people, not the same people that are going from chain to chain to chain brand new people who will use the technology for the benefit of their communities, and then, obviously, that will make the whole world a better place, I would hope.
Speaker 1:
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