Announcing REGENERATE Melbourne Health Summit April 21, 2024

On Sunday April 21st, the holistic health summit is coming to Melbourne with an epic event held at the iconic Fitzroy venue, 75 Reid St.

REGENERATE connects you with the most innovative speakers on health optimisation though Circadian & Quantum Health, Carnivore & ancestral diets and Regenerative Farming in Australia.  Featuring a powerhouse line-up of speakers including :

Dr Anthony Chaffee – Neurosurgical registrar, PlantFreeMD, Carnivore diet educator & advocate.  @anthonychaffeemd  

Dr Pran Yoganathan – Gastroenterologist, gut health expert, regenerative farming & decentralization advocate.

Dr Max Gulhane – GP registrar, Regenerative Health Podcast host, circadian/quantum health practitioner.

Dr Jalal Khan – Oral physician,  Quantum health practitioner, specialist orofacial development.

Natalie West – Metabolic psychotherapist and carnivore practitioner.

Charlie Arnott – bio-dynamic farmer & advocate of regenerative agriculture practices. 

We're connecting the dots between the food we eat, the light we absorb, and the soil that sustains us, crafting a narrative that goes beyond the plate, straight to the heart of what it means to live well.

Don’t miss your opportunity to see the most innovative health speakers live in person.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 4:12

So maybe I'll just quickly start. So the regenerate event was an idea that we had to really connect people to speakers and to an experience that's in person and a lot of things that we talk about Dr Anthony Chaffee talks about, and it can sometimes be a little bit isolating. It can be a little bit abstract and removed when we're just kind of maybe listening to podcasts or following videos on YouTube and implementing things in our lives that are quite radical and compared to what most other people are doing. And this can be challenging if you're doing something so different to everyone else. And everyone might have had conversations with family members who don't really understand or get the purpose of maybe adopting more extreme in him medical commerce lifestyle measures, like only eating meat or like wearing funny orange glasses whenever the sun sets and the lights the artificial lights get turned on.

Speaker 1: 5:24

So one of the reasons was to provide an opportunity to meet other like minded people and really connect with other people in a way that is beneficial and feeling like you're not the only one. So I hope that is a big reason why, or a benefit that people can get, and that was definitely something that we found after our Aubrey event, which was the first regenerative event in August last year was that people found that simply meeting other people who were also on this health journey was incredibly beneficial and helpful. So that's a big facet of it and along those lines we're in August and in. So in April in Melbourne we really got a big two hour break so that you can meet other people and really connect and form some in-person connection to kind of help you through and support you through the journey. So please, anyone comment any questions that you have so that we can answer them throughout this Q&A. Simon, maybe give people an overview of what they can expect on the day.

Speaker 2: 6:50

Yeah, sure, just to expand on what Max was saying before in describing why we created Regenerase, there is a massive problem that some are more aware of than others and that is the rise of lifestyle disease and many diseases and issues like autoimmune conditions, hormonal issues, mental health problems, skin issues that have become commonplace now and people think they're either part of getting older or they're just part of living. But these things really weren't present before the rise of modern industrialized food systems, life inside life, separated from nature. Before this new modern evolution, which has brought so many good things, these modern health issues weren't present and weren't such an issue. Dr Max and I and others, we all have a version of what we think is a solution, and the essence of the solution is getting back to nature and living the way humans are designed to live, we think, and that extends to ancestral diets, carnival, low-carb, meat-based diets. That extends to circadian health rising with the sun, minimizing artificial light when the sun goes down and it also extends to how we produce our food, and regenerative farming really provides a solution for producing decentralized, highly nutritious, quality food. That also improves the common, as Jacob would say, so it improves our common resources of water and soil.

Speaker 2: 8:46

Max and I found that there's. We would love to go to events where top doctors, top health-focused holistic doctors, came together with incredible regenerative farms. Bye, we couldn't find events that really did those things while also providing an engaging, relaxed and entertaining environment. A lot of the other events that are out there are quite sterile. Max and I have created a generate which we don't think is sterile. We think we've got natural life, amazing meals, a good atmosphere, a bit of liveliness, almost like going to a held festival.

Speaker 2: 9:27

I think Max agrees that we've created something pretty special. We're looking forward to seeing those who can make it join us in Melbourne.

Speaker 1: 9:39

That's a great point, simon. Thanks for giving your perspective on that. I really agree. We've looked at previous health events and sterile is a great word. It's like there's, it seems, very not only speaking to people, speaking to doctors and speaking in a format that's still very much professional and speaking to a kind of health professional context, but we want to help make this something that people without formal health training can engage with and can participate in in a way that feels very accessible. It's part of this greater movement that I think is necessary, which is what we're both doing in terms of promoting, which is greater health understanding and empowerment Through the regenerative health podcast, which some of you might listen to.

Speaker 1: 10:39

That's a key goal of mine, which is to really allow you, teach you and help you to learn about your own health so you can be the CEO of you and no one is going to make I mean, you're making health decisions. Everyone is just simply even doctors. Whoever you go and see, if you see naturopaths, if you see physios, everyone is giving you advice, but at the end of the day, you have to make those health decisions for yourself. The more, in my mind, the more information that we can provide you and the more accessible that information is around. Things like diet, light environment, light diet, food diet and food sourcing I think the better decision that you can make for your own health and your family's health. So that is that's very, very important to us and that is another kind of reason why we think regenerate is such a useful event.

Speaker 1: 11:40

The other point I wanted to make, and again it's about why these three fields and maybe people can understand okay, yeah, I had a great benefit from carnivore, but what's to do with the light or what's to do with the farming?

Speaker 1: 11:53

And I think that the reason is because it's not only we're trying to help things on a whole societal type level and if you get one facet right, that's great, but there's really more to it and a lot of people and Simon helps people, really a lot of people in the how to carnivore challenge with Dr Chafee and they find immense benefit on excluding all foods for 30 days and eating meat.

Speaker 1: 12:26

And then I help people with circadian health and this idea that, well, it's one thing to improve our food diet and people can get 60, 70, 80% of the way there, but for others, the light environment, the light exposures, is a critical part of health and then tying that together with the societal level facet, which is food growth and food production, because anyone who's been to a farm or been to an industrial farm or seen the process of industrial farming and you kind of, can get an inclination that this isn't a natural process. So tying those three pillars together is our way of giving you or providing you with the tools to kind of optimize or achieve health in multiple different ways and to kind of give you the most robust health into the future and those tools to optimize your longevity and live the healthiest life into the future.

Speaker 2: 13:30

So and I just wanted to give that background- so what can you expect if you come on to a journey in Melbourne? Well, I'll give you guys sort of a bit of a run sheet on what we've got by hand.

Speaker 2: 13:44

So the day runs from 9am to 5pm. We've got six speakers, so Dr Max is speaking, dr Anthony Chafee, dr Jalal Khan, dr Pran Yoganathan Kanlub or Psychotherapist Natalie West, and the sixth one is Regenerative Farm, charlie Armit. Each person is going to give a brand new speech or presentation that they haven't given before, on a topic that they're really passionate about right now. So it will be timely and they will speak for about half an hour and then, following their talk, will have a Q&A. So you'll get the opportunity to have the stimulus come in of their presentation and then ask these people the question in open forum. And if all real last year is in meaning to go by, these Q&As are really insightful and you get some incredible knowledge out of the presenters.

Speaker 2: 14:37

In the middle of the day there is a two hour lunch break, so I don't know if you can think of any seminar or function or conference you've been to with a two hour lunch break.

Speaker 2: 14:49

Normally they don't do it, but we're doing two hour lunch break, a feast of beautiful strength that you may have all prepared in a way that is carnivore seasoning spices and that was a real highlight last year and with two hours, the idea is that you will get around and chat to people.

Speaker 2: 15:08

So you will get around and you will speak to the presenters, you will make friends and connections with the people who are sitting around and other people who are at the event. This is an opportunity where we're bringing health conscious, farming conscious people from all over Australia together and this huge melting pot where you'll get to mingle, make friends, swap numbers, whatever you want it to, but it's going to be a really valuable opportunity for you. So the three sort of key points I suppose is a lot of learning, six incredible brand new presentations followed by Q&As. We're feasting on really high quality Australian grass for grass, finished produce. And the third one is we're connecting with the presenters but also with each other and you know you're going to make, hopefully, connections for life and if you ever go to an event?

Speaker 2: 16:03

and you feel awkward eating carnivore or being particular about your dietary needs. You don't need to worry about this event. It's very satisfying to be able to just go up and eat, you know, quite normal, like everybody else, because you know we're all in it together. Did I miss anything, max?

Speaker 1: 16:24

No no, no, no, no, no, no. That's it, and the venue is in North Fitzroy. It's a place called 75 Reed Street and it's a. It's an old building. It's an old brick building that's basically been renovated for Auditoriums, for events, for speeches, for weddings. It is an amazing venue and I was touring it recently and it's gonna be a fantastic day and Everyone is in close. It's not a Distant, it's not a Kind of events based where people kind of far away from each other.

Speaker 1: 16:59

In this stage. Everyone is going to be packed in in a very, very Intimate venue so you'll be able to see that speak is. You'll be able to. You're not gonna be far from Dr Anthony J Feet when he delivers another powerhouse discussion on what, whatever he decides to speak on. But this is gonna be an amazing atmosphere and I have a feeling that there's gonna be some very important and very actionable and very relevant health and lifestyle advice and information Given in in this. In this location there's also the Edinburgh Gardens. The park is nearby, so last time in Aubrey we had some people taking issues off grounding during lunchtime. Definitely encouraged that. So it's in a lovely area. It's a great location, so I think I'm a really, really good place to To really have this.

Speaker 2: 18:06

And Andrew just asked a question. He said how many numbers can you accommodate? So you can accommodate 300 people and not a person. So there are 300 tickets available class, which means that it's a. You know, it's quite an intimate event and with 306 speakers, you will get access to this because you will get to connect with people and it will be an incredible communal meal when we, when we break it lunchtime, I Wonder, max, maybe we can do a little bit of a tick, tick tack Whereby we kind of talk about each of the speakers will just do like a sort of one-to-two minutes feel on each one.

Speaker 2: 18:55

I'll start off with Natalie. So Natalie West is is one of our speakers and she is a carnivore and a psychotherapist and she's also a good friend of mine. She Trans, you know she's spanned across the two worlds of nutrition and mental health and she really hits home the fact that proper nutrition, which includes plenty of nutritious food but also eliminating alcohol, a lot of toxic plants and other things that can cause mental health issues, those two approaches Really really benefit how you feel about yourself and how you see the world. She does generally does private consultations that are really in depth with clients. She's fully booked out and she's a really incredible speaker. I haven't heard anybody bring together the world's nutrition and mental health as well as she does, and there isn't enough discussion about mental health and a lot of. When there is discussion, the thought is you just need to deal with it. You can do. Natalie offers a real solution which is refreshing, and guess what? It's not medication, it's. It's free. You just have to eat healthy, live a natural life and look after yourself.

Speaker 1: 20:19

So I yeah, so I mean that's such a great point.

Speaker 1: 20:26

I I have, in my clinical experience, come across people who have changed their diet for one reason They've perhaps done a low carb or carnivore specifically for, maybe, weight loss reasons and then come back and said to me you know, I've had, you know, troubling and and intrusive thoughts for you know, two decades and Now that I'm eating this way and my, my mood has improved out of sight and my intrusive thoughts have gone away.

Speaker 1: 20:53

And it just speaks to the this kind of Unappreciated point that you're mentioning and that that Natalie, and maybe guys like doctors, like Chris Palmer, who's really spoke on this topic, and Georgia Eid, and that that what we're eating can have a massive effect on our sense of well-being, in our mental health, so that this idea of metabolic psychiatry or and is what it's kind of being called, and in terms of a new, a new field, it's incredibly exciting and that is definitely a point that that the centralized advice it just doesn't include and no one is routinely getting dietary advice when, when they come in with anxiety or depression. But what the work of Natalie is implying, and from what I've seen in my clinical practice, is that that isn't absolutely what we should be talking about and Because it has the such a massive potential for improving people symptoms and making them and feel a whole lot better.

Speaker 2: 21:57

I would be sad. Max, did you want to intro another one of the speakers?

Speaker 1: 22:02

Yeah, I'll talk about Jalal, Dr Jalal Khan, and I'm very excited to see Jalal and to speak with him again. So Jalal for those who follow the Regenerative Health podcast, his podcast was the fourth most downloaded out of close to 50 episodes. So Jalal is a Sydney holistic dentist and a quantum and circadian health practitioner. So Jalal has one of the pioneers bringing this quantum biology and circadian lens to health in Australia. So he has throughout, for the past four or five years, in addition to working full time, he has been studying and learning about quantum biology and how to apply that to health, and what he's come up with, or what he's developed, is an incredibly holistic way of thinking about health that is fundamentally based on life and how light interacts with our biology, how light affects our mitochondrial function, and this is it's extremely exciting stuff that he talks about. So listen to my podcast with him if you're not aware of his work yet. But he is a very, very intelligent and accessible, very nice guy. So more recently he's also been working on holistic dentistry and quantum dentistry, which sounds a little bit interesting, but essentially how to influence facial shape, facial development, tongue position, all these critical parts of optimal face structure and breathing upper airway anatomy that seems to be static, but it can actually be changed even later in life and he's applying that and having massively beneficial effects.

Speaker 1: 24:03

So what Jalal offers is this really light focused approach to health and even though he is a dentist, he also has a very holistic mindset or holistic perspective. So he is also having and helping people with a range of other problems medical issues, things like fertility, which are amenable to light therapy and to change our light environment, those, just like animals in the wild, who essentially respond to the changing day length by the light that gets sent through their eye that influences their fecundity, their ability to or the propensity to reproduce. Similar things happen with us, and if we're blue light toxic, if we're not having an intact circadian rhythm and if the signals that go into our eye are wrong or confusing, then that is going to be confusing for our hormonal systems. And things like infertility, post-hysicotomy risk syndrome, even endometriosis, can be a result or a downstream effect of a bad light environment. So I'm very excited to hear what Dr Jalal Khan has to say.

Speaker 2: 25:18

Awesome, yeah, and, to reiterate, he's a super nice guy. A lot of the technical biology that he goes into definitely goes above my head, but he has some simple measures that I've adopted to do with getting sunlight in your eyes in the morning and minimizing artificial light at night, which made a huge difference for me. So, no matter what kind of scale you're on in terms of through really technical, medical, or if you're more of a sort of layman like myself, you will get a lot out of what Jalal's been talking about in his message. He's very generous with his time, so if you go up and ask him a question, he'll be more than happy to help. I'll do a little intro for Dr Chafee.

Speaker 2: 26:03

So many of you will know Dr Anthony Chafee. He is a neurosurgical registrar. He's a normal critical organ player and he's also a long-term carnivore and a massive advocate for the carnivore diet, if not one of the biggest in the world. Dr Anthony Chafee, he is extremely well read. He has very thorough arguments that he backs up with hard facts and he delivers it in an extremely engaging way, as you will know if you're going to watch any of his videos.

Speaker 2: 26:36

One thing that I think it would arise that Don Shaffer is that he has a lot of knowledge of that kind of all, but he also has a lot of knowledge about history, politics and economics.

Speaker 2: 26:47

He really is like a sponge and he's developed his really both broad and deep knowledge base and it's quite incredible when he opens up and he shares this information with you. So I can recommend anybody who is either a fan of Dr Chaffee and wants to meet him in person or is a carnivore and say curious to learn more about him. I recommend they come along and we tend to bring friends along that you think might be interested in Dr Shaffer in carnivore, because he's so generous at the time and he's so engaged, he's such a friendly man that it really is inspiring and he's a great role model and he doesn't pull any punches. His talk at last regenerate was all about how our nutritional guidelines have been corrupted and he was not afraid to call people out. He says it how it is and really, really engaging and refreshing to say that honesty. So I'm looking forward to seeing what Dr Chaffee produces and, though it had come up, I think he will really blow you away.

Speaker 1: 28:00

Yeah, that talk was very, very raw, to say it, and what he came up with and what he processed was a lot of what Belinda Fetke had talked about initially. But his presentation was very hard hitting and just the reality of the fact that the Dietrich guidelines have such deep influence from religious groups like the Seventh Day Adventists. It's something that people need to know about and it's become second nature that everyone starts their day. For the past three, four, five decades. You start your day with a bowl of wheat biscuits, you eat an oak bar from Uncle Toby's at Morning Tea and then you have some more grains for lunch or sandwich at lunch and then dinner has a big side of grains. But what Anthony talked about in that speech and you can really watch it and maybe, simon, we can refer people to our growing YouTube page, the regenerate YouTube page you can actually watch the historical videos from our Albury conference. But what he emphasised is that this common practice of eating all these whole grains simply reflects a bias that's introduced by the Seventh Day Adventist Church, who have a religious ideology that makes them insistent that other people they and other people eat vegetarian and plant-based diet. So really, we really recommend people watch that video if they're trashing their heads after listening to what I just said or disbelieving me, and please watch that video.

Speaker 1: 29:44

Listen to a couple of my podcasts with Blinda Fakie or Matthew Lachat to learn more. So the next person I'll talk about is Dr Pran Yoganathan. Now, pran is a gastroenterologist, so he's a doctor of the stomach, of the bowel. He does colonoscopy and gastroscopy and deals with problems of gastrointestinal tracts, so that makes him an expert on gut health and, unlike any conventional gastroenterologists, he's branched out of simply just doing procedures and writing prescriptions In a way that is very, very much more holistic. So, whereas maybe you might have in another situation with another clinician, you might have just had a scope and got a script for nexium or proton pump inhibitor Dr Pran has really put the effort into understanding what else is going on and his clinical practice in Sydney really emphasizes holistic health and dietary, low-carb type diets as well. So he's really trying to piece the puzzles together to improve people's health holistically.

Speaker 1: 31:07

He posts prolifically on Twitter and Instagram and he's a very big advocate for regenerative farming because he sees that if we as a society are using herbicides like glyphosate to essentially kill her, basically we eat in our paddocks, what effect that this potentially having on human health and the fact that this herbicide is simply acting like an antibiotic for the soil. That is what glyphosate is doing and what happens to human health if we ingest food that is inevitably contaminated with glyphosate. Residue or roundup, as you might know, is massive and it is incredibly injurious and deleterious and harmful to our gut microbiota, which many of you know is an integral part of health. So Pran talks about that. He's a massive advocate for getting back to regenerative systems, getting back to fully organic systems that don't require inputs from toxic chemicals that came off a boat. He's about really promoting this connection between what we eat and how it's grown and human health.

Speaker 1: 32:31

So Pran has also got some very interesting philosophical takes and if you follow him on Instagram and Twitter, you will be provoked into thinking what is going on, and he gives a very unique perspective. I think one of his tweets when we announced the event was that he will show you the way out of the Plato's cave, but obviously he can't drag you there. But what that basically means is he is his job to simply show you another way and or open the door, so to speak, and it's obviously up to each and every one of us to walk through that door, and basically a metaphor for once you have the information. It's up to us to do something with that information. But I believe that's the best type of teacher, which is not someone who pushes anything on you or forces anyone to change, but simply presents options, presents information and lets you, as the individual, the CEO of you, make a decision about how you want to live your life. So extremely excited to hear Pran what he's going to say and deliver another very, very interesting talk at this conference.

Speaker 2: 33:50

Thank, you now very much. The only thing that I would add is that he's totally fearless and Pran, like the other speakers, has really put his career and his medical license on the line by speaking the truth, and he's been called out by his peers over and over again People saying that he doesn't know what he's on about.

Speaker 2: 34:12

He's making a big deal out of nothing, calling him names or what have you, and Pran has definitely stood his ground and just kept this feeling of truth, which is very admirable. The next speaker who I'll do a little bit of talk for is regenerative farmer Charlie Arnett. If you're not following him, jump on to Instagram and search Charlie Arnett. Charlie started out life as a traditional chemical, so his approach was maximum chemical fertilizer in to try and get the biggest yield possible out of this product, and that sort of broke him down. After a while he started to wonder what's all this for? Is it just to sort of drag more out of the soil every year? There has to be more to it.

Speaker 2: 35:11

And without telling his story or sort of giving you a bit of an insight, during a release of the drought in Australia, his course was on sale and it was called Profiting from the Drought and he said, oh, that sounds like a joke.

Speaker 2: 35:27

That's got to be a laugh, but I'm not doing anything, so let's go on to it.

Speaker 2: 35:31

And he went on to this seminar Profiting from the Drought, and he learned about rotational grazing, regenerative farming, and then you can really care for the land and actually get an incredible output from, while making it more robust and more resilient and more fertile, and that completely changed Charlie's work.

Speaker 2: 35:55

And then he went down this regenerative farming rabbit hole and he is now what may would call the godfather of regenerative farming in Australia. He seems to know everybody in the space here the incredible podcast called the Regenerative Journey and Charlie speaks on a range of topics from the environment, from regenerative farming to raising kids in a modern world. He has a sort of relaxed and friendly, approachable way about it, while at the same time he's very curious and he did you an incredible course which is all about biodynamics, which I've actually done in Western South Wales, and he is an incredible teacher, very engaging and somebody that, for anyone who's a bit interested in farming or where their food's coming from, the opportunity to meet Charlie, be a talking person and immerse yourself in his world is something that I highly recommend. So it's certainly something I've been wanting to.

Speaker 1: 37:00

The analogy is incredibly interesting, which is, just like doctors and just like farmers, we both have to challenge the structure or the intellectual and educational framework that we got educated in to really get to a solution that doesn't involve chemical. And in that way, charlie has done the same as what a lot of doctors have, which is realized that there's a way that we can promote the system of the health holistically without simply just throwing a chemical into the mix. And his journey of essentially weaning himself off these monocropped methods and adding a whole bunch of fertilizer and herbicide into his growing mix and moving past that model into biodynamic, holistic, regenerative practices, it's very interesting. It's very similar to what a lot of doctors have to do or eventually do when they have a health problem or when they have something that prompts them to think about a challenge, the way that they've been taught and the way that they've been doing something. So, yes, charlie's a great guy and we're really looking forward as well to what he has to say. So, and then I guess I'm the final speaker and there's a lot that I have been thinking about what I'll talk about for this event, but I think that what people are interested in and what everyone needs to hear at this point is a story about life and how that is impacting health, and I think that artificial light at night and this idea of everyone's exposed to lights that exist after dark that we would never have previously been exposed to this is a major, major health problem that no one is very few people are giving adequate air time to. So I think I will be discussing how that affects our biology and how that affects things like obesity, things like diabetes, and this idea that you can be prevented from losing weight by your light environment. You can become fat just by the light that you're sitting under, and it seems almost a radical or kind of improbable idea that simply light can make someone fat.

Speaker 1: 39:37

But when we understand things like the natural sunlight spectrum and what I like to call the light diet, which is it should be a nutritious, balanced light diet and but what I mean by that is there should be ultraviolet, there should be visible and there should be infrared light, which is what we naturally get from the sun, but what the reality is that most people are simply under artificial light all day, and that is a massive problem. So the LED lighting, the compact fluorescent lighting lamps they emit visible only light and nowhere in history of our species was we exposed to visible only light. So it's both, basically both a nutrient deficient light diet and it's got a junk light, because the blue that we get from the sun is always balanced, it's always present with some red, it's present with infrared. So and what we're doing to ourselves when we go into work and turn on the artificial lights and sit in front of a computer all day is fundamentally harmful. And you know, I've been in the last clinical practice I was in and the administration staff were sitting in the middle of the building and we doctors were around the perimeter, so at least we had some opiate filtered light through glass. But the poor admin staff were in the middle of the building and there was no windows at all and they're just sitting under artificial light all day and cooking essentially in this very, very profoundly toxic light environment.

Speaker 1: 41:25

So what that can lead to is a disruption of all our hormonal axes and doesn't happen overnight. And it's the same as kind of eating. You know, if you eat one dish of deep fried food, deep fried in the canola oil, not going to kill you, but if you do a day in, day out for 20 years and it's no wonder in my mind that chronic diseases arise and something like things like breast cancer. So the epithelial cancers breast, prostate, bowel, lung have a very, very clear epidemiological link to artificial light at night and disrupted circadian rhythms and won't go into the exact mechanisms or reasons why. But it's an established scientific fact that, again, people aren't really realising in. And, unfortunately, when new buildings are being built, when hospitals are being built, when childcare centres and schools are being built, no one is considering the fact that we have these deeply fundamental needs when it comes to our light environment that are not being met, and what we're dealing with in terms of children's behavioural issues and maybe even problems with dementia and care resident and homes with behaviour, and how much of it could be fixed by giving people back what they needed, which was infrared light during the day and darkness or absence of light at night.

Speaker 1: 42:59

So that's something that I am passionate about. That's what I've been focusing on recently with my recent podcasts, so I'm excited to be talking about that at the Regenerate Conference. So if anyone has any questions or would like to make any comments, then I will address them now. Otherwise, head over to the website, which is wwwregenerateoscom and you can buy your tickets, and we're also going to include a link to the YouTube. We're going to add the link to our growing YouTube page where you can view the previous and years' recordings. So if there's no more questions then thank you everyone for tuning in to this live Q&A and this Regenerate preview and, I hope, summer, I will hope to see you there on April the 21st in Melbourne, fitzroy, melbourne. So thank you very much. Have a great evening.