S03E17 - TRYP

The Strangers are back! (minus Dan, this week) for a Post-Mortem discussion on their latest short film, TRYP starring frequent podcast guest Camille Falciola. Camille joins them to talk about the development of the film and share fun on set stories. So sit back, grab your favorite fizzy drink and enjoy cause the Strangers are back!

“TRYP” is available on YouTube here:

https://youtu.be/gKXeQt5YT6s?si=h29ABWbiLj0M21SE

When a woman suffers a minor injury, a latent fear manifests in brutal fashion.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:33

You're a real actress now. Whoa. Thanks. We have with us today, we have Camille.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

I don't know. And there's also two other people here.

SPEAKER_04 0:43

We have, and then we have, yeah, and then we have Sam, we have Frank, and we have I.

SPEAKER_02 0:47

Are we really ever even here?

SPEAKER_04 0:49

I'm never here. I'm here, but I'm not here.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Here is your house.

SPEAKER_05 0:55

Here in my house. My house is here.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

And here is Imagine if I had like a tripophobia like trigger photo. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 1:04

I wish you were there. I wish you were there for that. Um the interview was like we were doing tripophobia testing. Disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Yeah, no, that does sound absolutely gross. Horrible.

SPEAKER_05 1:14

I was crying.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

I literally just pulled up like when I was looking at the photos a year later, and there was a photo of the scars like on the table, and I looked at it and I was like, no.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

You did that. That was you. No, I know, but I mean you like.

SPEAKER_05 1:33

Overall, you did that. You did that. You did that. I I have only one leg now. All for the art. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:40

I was like, I still have the photos. No. I still have the skin flap.

SPEAKER_05 1:46

Oh, I don't know. I do, but I don't know where it's. Oh, do we have it? I do, I can't.

SPEAKER_04 1:49

I thought it wasn't specifically asked that we can. Listen to me. I said I don't know where it's at. I thought they shipped it to some lab somewhere. Just to test it out. And it's gone. Bacteria. I don't know if things are growing.

SPEAKER_05 1:59

It's probably still moist when I put it in the bag.

SPEAKER_04 2:02

It's probably in the back of your freezer.

SPEAKER_05 2:04

I think it's in this cabinet somewhere. It's gonna be put in the shadow.

SPEAKER_04 2:08

It's gonna like multiply into like more.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

More holes.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Four.

SPEAKER_05 2:13

More.

SPEAKER_02 2:14

Well, yeah. Speaking of holes, we filmed a movie. A short film. A film.

SPEAKER_05 2:20

A film we filmed. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

It was lots of fun.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

It was.

SPEAKER_05 2:24

As you can see, we wouldn't think of how to like end up.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

It's off the cuff. But also organized.

SPEAKER_05 2:33

Well, Camille, have you ever heard of Tropophobia?

SPEAKER_02 2:37

Good start.

SPEAKER_05 2:38

Maybe a little bit. Did you for do you know if you like fear holes? I patterns.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

I never really thought about it until like it started being more prevalent in my life. Like people were talking about it, and then like there's just certain things that would come up where I was like, oh yeah, that is really uneasy, and that's kind of gross.

SPEAKER_04 2:58

Now you notice it. Now you see it everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

It's kind of like you don't notice it until somebody points it out, and then you can't help but see it everywhere.

SPEAKER_05 3:06

And then did you notice more after filming?

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Yeah, a little bit. Especially like the weeks after filming. And then it kind of went away. Good. But now obviously the next because we're talking about a year later.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

It's like the game.

SPEAKER_04 3:20

Yeah. So I think Frank. Oh. I've been going like two years strong, maybe third.

SPEAKER_05 3:26

I saw this meme where it's like you're officially done with the game.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

So I'm gonna go with Frank, even though you both remembered the game.

SPEAKER_04 3:36

No, I don't know what you're talking about. So, Frank, you initially uh brought the script to Camille and talked to her about the project.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Yes, that is true. That is a fact. Um actually, well, okay, so the end of the podcast. Yeah, we're done. Thank you. That's it. It's been a while.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

It's been a while.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

It's been a while. Um, but if I remember correctly, you had mentioned the script or the story first forever ago. Eons ago, ages ago. And I liked the idea, and I was like, wait, that sounds kind of fun. I want to do that. Mostly because I felt like I could up it and torture you, but also because you have. You've achieved.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

Because it was like friends are for Frank's words were our friends.

SPEAKER_04 4:20

Frank's Frank's words were Sam, and this is like verbatim. Sam, if I don't gross you out, I have not done my job.

unknown 4:27

That's true.

SPEAKER_05 4:28

And Frank as a whole person does gross me out. It's a lifelong project.

SPEAKER_04 4:33

Yeah. And it was interesting too because I remember we like we guys were talking, we were like, oh yeah, we should like do this. And then it just suddenly ended up being our next project.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Well, initially it was supposed to be like, so I had I hadn't at the time that we started talking about it directed anything like over 10 years, and I really needed to do something. So I was like, hey, can I direct it? And you're like, yeah, sure. Whatever. But literally, that's cool with me. And I was like, okay. Um, but uh our location, um, the location we were gonna film in kept on shifting.

SPEAKER_05 5:09

Where were we gonna where were we gonna film them?

SPEAKER_02 5:11

Well, at one point we were gonna film at my sister's house. But that became interloper, period. Yes. So what happened is that um the dates um for even just trying to get like the that kept shifting, and then we had a makeup artist and uh he dropped out. So we were like, okay, what are we gonna do? We have no makeup, but I want to do something. So that's what led to doing Interloper. It was like, hey, let's let's do something that we can do like in a day.

SPEAKER_05 5:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

Yeah, and that turned into a year.

SPEAKER_04 5:43

A year and eight days. Now that you've seen it, you've seen the film, because the film is out now and we just showed it to you. Um, so how do you think the climax turned out with you tearing the skin in the film?

SPEAKER_01 5:57

Oh, it was so gross. It was so gross. I loved it. Um, it was really fun to watch it because I I had like such vivid memories of filming it, and I remembered like little parts about the movie, and then like when I saw it, I was like, oh yeah, I remember doing that. That was a lot of fun. And the makeup I thought turned really it turned out really good. Yeah, like it read on camera, so congratulations to you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 6:19

Sam's first time. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:22

Um really quick, because we used a real knife and it was the sharpest of my collection. So when we picked that, and then I was I realized what you were actually gonna do, I was so freaked out. And every time I watched that cut, literally, I was like, oh my god. I remember it so I'm like, oh I hope she doesn't actually cut her leg. Because it was so like close. Yeah. But it it was so good.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

You were so because we only had one prosthetic, so like if we shouldn't have to be like, you know, the leg, whatever. That's more important.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

It'll grow up now. It's funny.

SPEAKER_04 6:52

No, but I just remember how crazy because I remember we were like this, we were chatting right before the scene started, and then you were about to start it, and you were like, Okay, hold on, like, I need a second. And it was just crazy. You just in an instant like transformed, and then I got nervous. I was like, Sam, um, I was like, I'm gonna go stand outside.

SPEAKER_05 7:11

Well, okay, because I was waiting going back, it wasn't the cutting part, it was the right before. Yeah, yeah, the crash. So it was part where you're doing the charcuterie board, you were like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember because we filmed at like 6 p.m. We made sure it was sometime between like people were coming home, but right before they were going to bed. Because it was on a it was on a weekend.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Yeah, I think that was on a Sunday.

SPEAKER_05 7:30

Yes, that was the last day of shooting. And then I remember yeah, you and I were like, Okay, what can we do? And then go ahead, what were you gonna say?

SPEAKER_04 7:36

Yeah, no, and then Camille, like it was great. You really turned up the performance. So then me, I was like, I think I'm gonna like stand outside because I was getting concerned. I was like, I was like, I know Sam, like in her apartment, like not really loud, and then suddenly their neighbors on both sides are gonna hear screaming. I was like, I was like, okay, I was like, I don't, you know, I mean, cool on the neighbors if they call someone because they're concerned, but I was like, ooh, like, yeah. But not right now. Yeah, I was like, not right now. So I was like, I was like, okay, let's do it, let's get it done now. And then I was like, yeah, I might just go stand outside or be around in case something. But then I was like, but then that also might be kind of sketchy. Some random guys. Like some random. Then I was like, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 8:21

You know what? Let's just all we'll like, it's not fine.

SPEAKER_04 8:25

And you're like, no, we'll see what happens. And we got a great performance.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

I think I remember some mommy in the near.

SPEAKER_04 8:35

You open the door and throw it at him.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

Leave.

SPEAKER_04 8:38

They're gonna the door's gonna open up the door's gonna open the place like, and you're gonna be smashing stuff on the counter.

SPEAKER_05 8:43

And it's like five of the people just staring at her back here. And I'm sitting on the couch. Um, yeah, so when you got the script, what did you think of it? Was there anything that stood out that you're like, oh cool, I kinda wanna try this.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

I remember reading it and like there was no dialogue, and I thought that was really cool, that it was all just action. And I remember Frankie telling me about that ahead of time, being like, There's no dialogue, it's just you. And so I was prepped for that. But as I was reading it, I was like, Oh, this is kind of cool. This is just like a quick, like, oh my god, she's descending into madness, and it was really cool to see the visuals written down, and then kind of like picturing like how I saw it in my mind, and then seeing how y'all saw it in your mind, and it was really cool to see like how together we could like make that character just definitely like go insane.

SPEAKER_05 9:29

Yeah, when you were watching it, your reaction was my same reaction with the dream sequence with the um scratching.

SPEAKER_01 9:34

That looked so good. Right?

SPEAKER_05 9:35

Because when he wrote it, because he wrote that section, I was like, I don't know how that was gonna film. And then even when filming it, I'm like, I don't know how you can are gonna cut it, but I love how it was lit at the time. And then seeing it put together, amazing. I remember when you were scratching it, like I it was loud. I remember cringing in the first when we did the first cut. I was like, oh, I don't like the sound of this. That was our first scene. And you're like, is it okay? Like, no, it's fine. Just add more blood.

SPEAKER_03 10:00

Right? That was the first scene. That was the first scene.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

Well, no, it was in the bed.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Like the Kyla Redme. But more, more, more.

SPEAKER_04 10:09

Yeah, that was like that was like in the first three. Because I remember the first things we did was the bedroom. All of that was like the first stuff we did. It was very early.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 10:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Because we did the bathroom and the bedroom scenes, like I think day one.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

And then because we had split it up into um day one normal, and then day two, all the crazy stuff. So day two, I think, actually, if I'm remembering correctly, we did that scene first.

SPEAKER_05 10:39

Get out of the way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Because we were like, okay, once we're done with this, we're never coming back to this room again. You're right, you're right. Me neither. And I have not been back to my room. You sleep on the couch.

SPEAKER_04 10:49

The camera's still in there. Yeah, everything.

SPEAKER_02 10:52

I think we could have used more blood.

SPEAKER_04 10:54

The blanket of blood's still there.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

I'm gonna judge Lucas it.

SPEAKER_04 10:57

I'm just gonna add a whole bunch of You're gonna throw in like a CG like Jawa like in the corner. Singing. Just someone you're gonna have in the scene where Camille's like having a meltdown, you're just gonna have someone randomly singing now.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

Yeah. Um, but I do remember, like, like you were saying, the lighting of it. I also wasn't entirely sure how it was gonna look the day of. I just knew what I wanted in my head. And uh, I talked to him about like him as in him. Him at him as in him, him as in him, but also Houble H IM. Um I talked to him about um how it was gonna look, and um well what were you thinking about like how the scene was gonna sh play out day of, like filming-wise.

SPEAKER_04 11:47

Well, I know we we talked, and that's kind of how we split it too, because I know our initial approach was we wanted the first half to kind of almost feel like kind of whimsy, almost like Wes Anderson style symmetry with any everything, and then the second day kind of turns into like Rosemary's baby a little bit. So I know with that, that was our one of our first decisions. We were like, Okay, well, now when we start doing this scene, everything kind of has to almost follow. And I think we did end up. I remember we put the bed in the center of the room so we can put the lights, and we were just like, Well, if it's a dream, when you're dreaming, she's only gonna see the arms and her wrist and her hands. So I think we kind of just played off that, and I think a lot of it, I mean, I don't want to say like lightning in a bottle, but everything just kind of clicked in place really well. And I remember we were taking pictures, and we're like, This is actually like pretty fucking crazy. Pretty cool. It's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

Those came out really good.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

Oh, yeah, those photos were amazing.

SPEAKER_04 12:54

Yeah, so that's just kind of how it started. I think, you know, just everyone just working together, everyone just everyone everyone knew the vision.

SPEAKER_05 13:03

Yeah, Joao and Michael, that was the first time they were on our set, and I remember their first job was to put up the garbage bag to cover the window, and they were just on it.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

Yeah, they were like this. When I did that for Interoper, it took me like an hour and a half to the heat.

SPEAKER_05 13:18

Right, yeah, because it's just you.

SPEAKER_04 13:19

I remember I was just like, it doesn't have to last a century, but it can't fall down. Yeah. I was like, because they were like, we were going, we were like trying to put, I was like, and then I think we ended up having to like triple padding because they were like oh here. I told them, I was like, okay, we're good, it's enough.

SPEAKER_05 13:33

And it just like why is it suddenly so bright in here? Yeah, like just like sunlight filling the room.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

But um going back to that scene specifically, how was it how was it um having to do the like the heavy makeup? Like because oh not heavy makeup, but you know, it kind of like pinches your skin a little, right? Like those.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

Yeah, it was like a weird, um, it was a weird pinching. And then I think it was, it was absolutely and I think then like I think the worst part for me is that when I f when we filmed this, I had pretty long nails. Oh it was like constantly in between scratching and everything. Like, I think I have to do it. I hope I got this right, we don't have to do it again. But I remember being like, as I was scratching, I was like popping off the little pieces, and I was like, no, I'm popping off the makeup, and you were like, it's fine.

SPEAKER_04 14:26

Yeah, it looks good.

SPEAKER_05 14:28

Yeah, I remember that night, like every everybody left. I was going to bed, and I still saw like bits of flakes on my on my counter, and I'm like, It's real memories.

SPEAKER_04 14:36

It's better than you waking up in the middle of the night.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

That's true, scratching my own arm. Put them in the box. Memory. Yeah, there there was um so originally in the script, the sequence was even worse. I think it works the way like the way it looks now. Cause uh originally she was just gonna tear off little pieces of flesh.

SPEAKER_05 14:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Um and then reveal. But I like the uh the bloodier way we went.

SPEAKER_04 15:00

And then doing all the jump cuts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Yeah. Which which is kind of like a um, you know, when when you when you hear other people talk about, you know, behind the scenes stuff where they they had to change something about the movie Day of. Right. And then they just liked what happened better. Like, it was basically that for us, and I I really liked um getting to experience that. You know, it w it was like not a not a a Eureka moment, but it was like a oh, this is what that's like. That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 15:29

Yeah, because that also happened again, because I remember Frank, you and I specifically wanted to shoot the knife scene towards the end. Yeah. Because we were like, any time we have left for the day, we just wanted to get like coverage. Yeah. And I remember Frank, you and I were like, because I was supposed to go cut, and you were just there, and I just kept going and going and going. And then we said cut, and I remember you, Frank, you and I looked and were like, we're done. Like that's it. It was so good the performance. I'm like, I don't want to cut away from it. Yeah, like at all.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

I I did the uh the Jack Nicholson thing.

SPEAKER_04 16:09

I was like, because we just kept looking at we were like, Camille, we were like, that was great. Like, I don't we have it.

SPEAKER_05 16:17

There was this part, it was during that part where you're on the um floor and you were in the zone, and I was on blood patrol, but the blood was so thick that it couldn't go through the syringe, but you were like in it, and I was like, oh my god, I'm wasting my time. And I was crying so hard, but my hands were also covered in blood, so I couldn't grasp the syringe. Yeah, and it was thick, and I was like, Oh my god, she's still crying. I need to hurry up.

SPEAKER_04 16:40

But yeah, in that scene too, Camille, you pointed out we were laughing at it when you watched it. Was the big inside joke that came from the movie was the salami. On the deli meeting, it was the salami. Anyone who's watching this know now, you'll never unsee it. There's a piece of salami on when did we notice it?

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Oh, I feel like I had it, did I have it on one of the photos? Because I remembered it pretty early on.

SPEAKER_04 17:06

Yeah, I remember, yeah, I think it was in the photos, and we just called it. Yeah. That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

It's just it was on the air freshener thing.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

Yeah, on the air freshener. So every time we just smell salami now.

unknown 17:25

No.

SPEAKER_05 17:25

Every time we sorry, every time we do like an edit, we just always freeze that frame and we're like salami. Without fail.

SPEAKER_04 17:33

It was so much of a joke that like we just said, oh, that's gonna be our security title now. So every time we delivered any assets, it was just like deli meat.

SPEAKER_05 17:41

Even our group chat's deli meat.

SPEAKER_04 17:43

Our group chat was yeah. No, I think it was Joao who said it. He came up with the name deli meat. We were watching it because we had known it was there, and then Joao saw when we were watching, he looked, he goes, Deli meat.

SPEAKER_02 17:55

He's like, I got it.

SPEAKER_05 17:57

But then the cleanup was so good, spotless. Oh I know, that was spotless. I was like, oh my gosh, you guys. You were like, I'm gonna get in so much trouble.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

To be honest, we've been getting really good about cleanup, like really good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

I feel like we managed to keep it contained enough. Yeah. Like it didn't go all over the place. No.

SPEAKER_05 18:15

I mean the crash out was great. That was all coordinated by Queen. Yeah. We were like little minions.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

Yeah. It was good. I it was it was the it was a lot of fun. I can't wait to do it again.

SPEAKER_05 18:29

Oh nothing. Another trip. You're like trip to this time it's for real. Trip again.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

It's the other leg.

SPEAKER_04 18:38

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

Wrong leg shit. Wait. So was there anything that you thought like that you felt uh before coming in that might be a little not difficult, but uh a bit of a challenge for you to do or or or that you just never got to do before, and you were like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

I think the whole thing was a challenge for me because I hadn't been like a performer for so long, especially on camera. Like I hadn't done it in a while, and so it was really fun to be on this side. Um, but I think like the whole thing, I was like, okay, how did I do this before? And it really realized that like you never it just never leaves you. It's kind of something that's always there, and so that was really cool. Um the part where I had to like not crash out and throw the charcuterie, but like the part where I was cutting my leg, that's the part where I was really nervous. Because I remember we had conversations, you know, like this whole moment, it rides on this moment, and I was like, oh my god, no pressure. But literally, I was like, oh my god, what if I mess this up? Oh my god, I can't do this. Oh my god. So I was like, it's fine, I can get through this, just remember why you do it. And so it was like that. It was fun to hang out with you guys and make some movie magic to get a day.

SPEAKER_05 19:56

Um, so then my next question actually um did it help that we knew each other prior to filming?

SPEAKER_01 20:02

I think so. Um I think I think it made, especially for this type of short, it made for a smoother process. Um I think it I mean it was it's a short easy I don't want to say easy to make, but it was like it was a two-day thing. So it was like really easy to just be like us and kind of just get it done and not I don't know how you guys would have felt if it was like somebody that you didn't know to maybe like you have to tiptoe around, but this it was just like Frankie'd say, get on the bed, do whatever you want, and I'll be like, Okay, great, I'm gonna scratch my arms now. And it was just like I felt like we matched pretty well on film day, so that was really cool.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Yeah, it was it was a pretty smooth not not to say that our past projects haven't been smooth, but um it kind of felt like the first time that um we we did a project, uh, and it was semi-complex, you know. We had it's one uh one location, but it's different areas of the location, multiple setups. Like I think day two we did like 27 setups or something like that. One one weekend. Yeah, you know, to go from like previous projects where you know uh we'll kind of wing it, or you know, uh there's been times where oh shit, we forgot something, you know, at this place, we gotta run back, or you know, we ran out of battery, somebody go to the store real quick. To come into that, uh to go from that to you know, Interloper, which was like seven days on day one. We got two setups done out of maybe six or seven hours. It was a crazy, like terrible, terrible time. But then as as we went along, you know, learning experience, you know, to to now do two days, twenty plus setups both days, smoothly going back and you know, and then having to do the makeup and and all that stuff, it was yeah, because we were multitasking and that was like what we needed to like get into the habit of.

SPEAKER_05 21:58

Yeah, and we also had Two more people who were eager to like help.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:03

And like they were taking care of like the more um labor-ish kind of thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

And it was like that was like when you guys were setting something up, you were doing makeup on my leg, and so it was kind of just like everybody was like you know, running on all cylinders.

SPEAKER_05 22:19

And it was fun, right? When we were doing the makeup, like Frank, come check it out. I'm like, okay, add more yellow, make it more blue, like bruise-ish. That was cool. That was really fun.

SPEAKER_04 22:26

By the way, we're using a real knife. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:28

I don't know if I told you, we're using a real knife.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

We were like a real knife and then we tossed to that, or we're like, I feel like room sharp.

SPEAKER_05 22:33

Oh that once, okay, so we noticed in the cut um when you went to grab. Do you remember when you grabbed the knife and it like kind of lost a toe? Yeah, I was about to reveal.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

I forgot until just now. Yeah. You reminded me.

SPEAKER_05 22:49

So when we every time we saw the cover, we're like, oh God. A lot of cringy moments.

SPEAKER_04 22:59

Don't worry, that footage is deleted. Don't worry, neighbor. Don't worry, neighbors. That scream's real.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

That one's real.

SPEAKER_04 23:06

That one's real.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Oh my gosh, I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

That was cool.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

You losing a toe. Yeah. Fun story.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

I have nine other things. Day of scary.

SPEAKER_05 23:19

Mm-hmm. But now we can laugh about it.

unknown 23:23

No.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

Um say that to my toe.

SPEAKER_05 23:27

Listen, buddy. So we're working on this other short, and the director that's in charge of this one actually reached out to me about character breakdowns. And I know we didn't do that one with this one, but how did you prep for your character without like a character breakdown?

SPEAKER_01 23:43

Oh man. Um I remember it was reading the script, and then I kind of just imagined, I kind of like made my own character in my mind. And it was like, okay, well, how would I see this person? Like, obviously, this is she listens to metal, she she burns her leg and then she goes insane. What kind of person would do that? And it was kind of just like how if I was this person, what would I do? kind of thing. And so I kind of just like took that and was like, okay, this girl, these are the issues that she has, and these are her fears. And so I kind of just put myself in that position. But yeah, it was kind of there was no real guidance.

SPEAKER_05 24:24

I was like, alright, let's just be this person. Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

And yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

And you did. I originally we did have well not originally, at some point we had um talked about maybe making her like an influencer of some kind to give a little bit of background.

SPEAKER_05 24:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Um ultimately we didn't end up doing it.

SPEAKER_04 24:47

We didn't end up cutting it because we had I think we had a little more of a beginning, which is kind of why the beginning tone, like I said, it was kind of quirky and then it switched over. Because it was supposed to be like, oh, you know, she's now in this new place, she's moving in, getting everything together.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Yeah, but it it did ultimately feel um just right, not doing too much in that you know, like it would have been nice to do some more character work beforehand, but um, I mean the fact of the matter is Did you really need it?

SPEAKER_04 25:20

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Yeah, I mean we you you did it. I I would have liked to have um talked more about it just for that background, but I I ultimately, you know, as you can see on screen, I don't think it was necessary.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

No, I think for the movie itself, like you know, it was like character was brought to life. You you kind of just went in not knowing who this character is, and I think it kind of almost adds to it because you're like, okay, it's some girl. Oh no, she's going nuts.

SPEAKER_05 25:50

But I was and it helped also that, like, again, we all know each other, so it's kind of like that comfort level we have coming in. Yeah. So I feel like right if we didn't know the actor, that would have definitely helped out.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

I think, yeah, I think so. And like I said, Frank and I had already like discussed this prior to when the first time you've approached the script to me.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Yeah, we chose the right actress for the job. I don't know why we're being modest. We did. We did.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

And we're done.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

And um is there anything that you would do differently? Should I like rewrite the whole thing?

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Don't cut my leg. Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

No, I mean, I not do differently. I remember the one part that I I felt, I don't know if it came out on camera. I don't think it did, but it was just me being short. I felt really awkward with the charcuterie board so high. That was the one thing where I was like, I feel like I have three raccoons in a trench coat right now. No. No. Yeah, remove a step stool.

SPEAKER_05 27:01

We did have to make it higher, so it was easier for your own. That's right, I remember it.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Because it was getting it out of the box, and I was like, oh, I can't get this.

SPEAKER_05 27:08

Why am I just like, why am I so short? So I just went on the stage, just push it. And then that's why we did it.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

We pushed the night and then I pushed the box.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Oh yeah, why did we push the box?

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Because it was too short.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

No, that's not the only thing. You guys don't remember?

SPEAKER_01 27:23

No.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Originally, we were using a smaller charcuterie board that fit the box.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Well, that's right. And this one.

SPEAKER_05 27:29

And then we used a cutting board.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

Yeah, because somebody, I don't know who, didn't measure the box. So what we ended up doing was we used a bigger charcuterie board that doesn't that didn't fit in the box. So we had to cheat it and be like, yes, this giant ass charcuterie board fits in this small box. That was the plan the whole time.

SPEAKER_05 27:49

Don't give up all the secrets.

SPEAKER_04 27:51

I don't think you can tell though.

SPEAKER_05 27:52

No, no.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

That was a great blocking for sure. Yeah. Watch now, it's gonna be on Cinema Sins.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

Box too small.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

It's gonna be like nobody's gonna be able to unsee it. It's like the salami.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

We're literally just giving out all the secrets.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Yeah. Yeah. But that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

You know, it's not real film.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

It's what's fun about it. Like doing all the little um um like problem solving. Yeah. Day of, I think that's my favorite part is um, oh shit, this doesn't work, let's fix it. There, now it's add some duct take to it.

SPEAKER_05 28:26

My my favorite part aside everything else was um the set design of just this one thing. It was the the dish rag. Because we start out with checkered, and then once she got starts going crazy, we switched over to to the holes. Polka dots to the polka dots, which I still use both. Um so yeah, I hope people people like pick that up. Yeah, and if they don't, they will not.

SPEAKER_04 28:52

The poster in the room by the books is slightly ripped.

SPEAKER_05 28:56

It's not ripped. It's not ripped, and I love how you always bring this up and it's just bad for it. So I bought this poster at the Broad. It was like a Roy Lichtenstein kind of thing. And it it it's it's a mirror, but it's dotted. And we're like, oh, this is a great addition to like the set design. So I had gone, I think I was doing makeup, and I came back and I was like, oh, this is great, but I saw how bumpy it was. I was like, let me just touch it. And I was like, how much fucking tech did you fucking use? And I turned around, I was like, what did you do? He goes, It's okay. I'm like, it's fucking not. But yeah, that's fine, it's not ripped, it's just very wrinkly.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

You're good. Nobody'll notice.

SPEAKER_04 29:36

Now we know the movie's out, everyone knows.

unknown 29:39

I'm good now.

SPEAKER_03 29:40

I'm excited. It goes missing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:43

And I wish we had seen the one with the music, because oh, the scoring is it's great. Joao did it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:48

But hopefully by the time this is released, oh yeah, you will have seen it. We'll do a podcast again just for the recording it on March 25th. And uh we're gonna release it. It's gonna come out. We said in a week after. Yeah. So about it's like a little post mortem.

SPEAKER_05 30:09

And you'll see it, but he did a nice version of this corn. Oh, cool. Okay, it sounds very much like it.

unknown 30:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

I was lost. I was like, huh? And I was like, oh, the song.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Oh, corn cut.

SPEAKER_05 30:21

Yeah, corn. I was like, was this a marketing thing I didn't see? Yeah, yeah. Well, speaking of which, how did you feel? Have you seen any of his marketing stuff?

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Um the infomercial. What you think? I thought it was really cool, and it was really funny because I was trying to explain. So on the way here, um, I was talking to my boyfriend and I was explaining to him kind of like the short, and and he was like, and I was like, Yeah, and the marketing was really cool. And then I realized I was like, wait, hold on, I have to backtrack because based off this character that has nothing to do with the short film, but it was like, and so I was telling him about this, and he was, I don't know, he's probably like, you know, like the Julia Roberts meme connecting the connecting the dots with all the math, because I was like, Yeah, and there was a Southern script, and there was this, and blah blah blah. And so I thought that was really cool that you guys connected the Roger Garland stuff with um that short, and it was like the infomercial for the knife.

SPEAKER_04 31:15

We're big on infomercials, it seems we are, and it's funny too, because that we grew up on infomercial. We did. It was actually a last kind of second change too was putting some of those clips in there.

SPEAKER_05 31:26

It was supposed to play as a straight infomercial. Oh, really? Yeah, and then he's like, Oh, well, we have a different cut, and it's like with your stuff, and we're like, Oh, actually, this is really nice. I made it really eerie and creepy.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

Yeah, because I was like, it'd be cool if it just like kind of cuts away halfway.

SPEAKER_05 31:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

Yeah, they turn out cool. Yeah. I th w did we have an idea for another infomercial that we just never did, or am I I'm sure. Am I tripping?

SPEAKER_04 31:50

Alright, well, everyone take a trip if you haven't already. Oh, are you cutting the short? Are we done? I'm just kidding. Are we done? No. We're cutting something.

SPEAKER_05 31:57

I don't remember because we did the the PowerPoint, the info, and then the interviews. I think that was pretty much it. I didn't see the PowerPoint. Oh, it's on our Instagram. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

The the knife info?

SPEAKER_01 32:10

The knife commercial, yeah. And you just dropped the interview today. Yeah. We got a chance, yeah, check out the infomercials.

SPEAKER_04 32:16

We're kind of cursed with that because when we were doing the infomercial too, I think the knife almost went flying. Yeah, at one point.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

We had it on a lazy season.

SPEAKER_05 32:26

Oh, bit it! We were being gentle, and then someone was like, just do it. And I was like, okay. And I went kind of hard and it just flew off.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Somebody gets stabbed.

SPEAKER_04 32:37

So I think we have to somehow now put that knife in all of our productions going forward. It's our easy. Somebody's gonna eventually someone will lose a toe one day. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

It's like Russian roulette at this point.

SPEAKER_05 32:52

Literally. And I I remember just being on the spray bottle duty. Oh, yeah. Just to make it look sweaty. That was cool.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

It's to make the tomatoes look sexy.

SPEAKER_05 33:02

Sexy tomato. Exactly. Um I mean, like for I f in my for me, I feel like when it comes to indie films, especially like things that we're making, I don't feel like we need to go that hard into marketing, but it's like fun. Especially that we have social media now, it's just fun to like tease and then keep everybody entertained. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 33:23

And it's an opportunity, you know, like to try different and new things that you otherwise wouldn't see. But it's always that like weird, not weird, it's always that like line where it's like, well, we don't want to be too obscure because then people won't know where it is or will lose people's attention. But at the same time, we don't want it to look like you know, if someone's scrolling Instagram, they'd be like, Oh, this is something I've seen a hundred times. I'm just gonna like skip skip past it.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

But you also have the world at your fingertips now. Like at first it was like you think of like big Hollywood movies, and all this marketing was kind of I don't want to say gate kept, but the regular person didn't really have access to that kind of those kinds of resources, and now you really do. Like you can make a movie on a phone and things like that. So you do have access to all this marketing, especially with social media. You can put your stuff out there, and so I think that's really cool that you guys did some marketing for it.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Thank you. We have some more stuff coming. Has we a shirt? Ooh, perhaps. Perhaps. I just need to actually make it.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

But we have the design, we have it ready.

SPEAKER_05 34:25

So can you show did you show her yet the the poster? Let's do a live reaction.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

I didn't. No.

SPEAKER_05 34:31

It was done yesterday at what, 2 a.m.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

And I won't. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 34:34

And we're done.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Oh, cool. With the oh nice. Okay. Yeah. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

And then we'll have a fairing. It'll be it'll be up. I don't I don't even need to show it because it'll be up.

SPEAKER_05 34:45

Yeah, like why are you showing something that's already up?

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 34:47

Sorry. Yeah. Anything else you guys want to add?

SPEAKER_02 34:52

No, I mean I think this was pretty pretty cool little, like, you know, like I personally, formally, I think I'm done with Trip. I think what you're just done. I've done all that all that I can.

SPEAKER_05 35:06

Yeah, it's in Jamal's hands right now. It was it was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

And I'm I'm I'm happy to um put it out there and have people just watch it and be like, yeah. I'm part of part of that. Yeah, I was part of that as well.

SPEAKER_04 35:22

What a trip before and Camille, thanks for coming by. It was cool to like reminisce. You reminisce a year later exactly where we filmed it in the room. It was very intentional. We were like, Camille's gonna sit right here. Right where it all happened.

SPEAKER_05 35:36

By the salami. Yes. I should have put a salami on the freshman. It's still there. Oh green and moldy. Like it's okay, Mom. Just leave it there. Don't clean it. I thought it was fake. I'm just gonna miss.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

Those are memories.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Thanks for having me. It was really like I said, it was a really fun time, and I'm glad that we did this a year later. Yeah. But I hope you guys had good memories. Of course. Yeah.

unknown 35:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:59

You're like, I'm done. I don't want to talk about it every time. No, I guess it's a good idea.

SPEAKER_04 36:04

It's a good way. It's the we're never done. You just run out of time.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

And the time has run out. I think that's that's that's what it feels like.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

I think you have to give yourself a deadline because it's not like you'll just give you never put it out.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

Tweak it to infinity and beyond.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

I mean I'm excited to see it. I'm excited for the public to see it because it's a fun short and it was a lot of work and a lot of heart and soul put into it. And I'm proud of it. So am I?

SPEAKER_05 36:30

And I think it's like it's a first feature where or a first short where like I feel we have a good team. That's it. Done.

SPEAKER_04 36:40

Done. I'm done. I'm like Frank. I'm putting it. No. Yeah. No, it was good. It was a good experience. And it was, you know, like we talked about before, but it was the box of the back. It was and it was cool, interesting. And the fact this is the first thing, and I think the first thing too, Frank, we had ever like co-directed together. Well, it's the first thing I'd ever co-directed ever.

SPEAKER_05 37:02

So I remember when you guys approached me with it. You guys were like, hey, have a seat. Oh, you're like, how do you feel like this? Yeah, and I went sit down. No, because originally it was Frank that was supposed to do it, and then you somehow snuck in.

SPEAKER_04 37:14

Because Frank, no, because Frank and I kept having ideas, and we were like, oh, we should do it this. And we were like, why don't we both? And your first reaction, I'll never forget the Sam. It was at Dance House, wasn't it? It was at Dance House and you and you said, But Travis, I don't want it to be funny.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

And I was like, I remember that.

SPEAKER_05 37:34

I could do Mother John bro. Because okay, the thing is, you do all of the Roger Garland stuff. For context for people that didn't know. So I remember you're like, hey, if we have to tell you something, just let us finish talking first, and then you can say whatever you want. And then you're like, how do you feel? And I was like, fuck.

unknown 37:49

You're like, no.

SPEAKER_05 37:50

What do you want? What do we code? I'm like, nope.

SPEAKER_04 37:53

Because it takes me forever.

SPEAKER_05 37:54

That's not a comedy. She's not cutting her leg off for comedy.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

Yeah. But it all worked out in the city.

SPEAKER_05 38:01

I trusted you. After the fact.

SPEAKER_01 38:03

It turned out really cool. I have a vivid memory of just like me being on the ground and just you and Frank. Like the two of them, like almost like next to each other, just like staring.

SPEAKER_04 38:17

And that's when the police walked in. Well, we did have plastic tarp on the floor, too.

SPEAKER_05 38:23

We did.

SPEAKER_04 38:24

Nothing to see here.

SPEAKER_05 38:25

Yeah, and then yeah, you were on a ladder at one point.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

Yeah. Right? But that was fun. Yeah, no, we were like, we were sitting on the floor. Like right over there. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good time. It was a good time. It's always time. Time was ahead.

SPEAKER_05 38:39

We'll not do it again. Not in here anyway.

SPEAKER_04 38:42

We have other stuff. So trip two. Another trip. Without Sam.

SPEAKER_05 38:48

Not in Sam's house. No. No, a dance's house.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

No. This time the trip goes global.

SPEAKER_05 38:54

International. I was gonna say international. Let's do an international trip to Spain.

SPEAKER_04 39:01

Like that movie wreck. The airport. Terminal. Trip two terminal. Same trip, new location.

SPEAKER_05 39:08

Trip one terminal.

SPEAKER_04 39:09

I can't do this anymore. Or just trips. Alright, how do you wrap this up? This is where we fade out.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

Oh, we're just talking.