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S03E24 - Interview with the Vampire

Satellite 12 Season 3 Episode 24

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Louis! Lestat! Love! On the season finale of Strangers in the Alps, the Strangers bid adieu with a look into Neil Jordan's 1994 classic "Interview with the Vampire" starring Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Kirsten Dunst, Christian Slater, Antonio Banderas and Stephen Rea!

"Interview with the Vampire" is available to stream on SlingTv!

A reporter interviews a vampire, Louis, and we learn about his life and loves through his retellings.

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And welcome to another episode of Strangers in the Alps, a movie podcast, where every week we discuss movies in a fun, intelligent ramble. I'm Dan.

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Please allow me to introduce myself.

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Please.

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I'm a man named Travis. I'm Sam. I've come, I've been around. Okay, that's a lot.

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So that's Sam, and you are? Frank. Hey, Frank. And Travis, could you please read the back of the Are we still doing the VHS?

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This could have been on VHS. No, this was on VHS.

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Okay, read the back of the VHS. Oh, you're right. And let us and and don't tell us the name of the movie. Just read the description and then we'll guess. We'll all guess.

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Oh, okay. The movie we watched. Alright, hold on.

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Take your time. You know what?

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Oh my god, no, this is not the right movie. Take your time. Sam. Huh? This is the TV show. Oh, you stupid.

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Yeah, I was really surprised. I didn't even know about the TV show.

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I've seen a couple of things. And I think it's still on, isn't it?

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It's really good. They're on like a few seasons in.

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Yeah, they're they're like three seasons in.

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They have a couple of seasons in the same description. I could have just stayed.

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Go ahead and read it.

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It's it's short.

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Yeah.

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A vampire to interview with a vampire.

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I guessed it.

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Or, as the working title was, My two gay dads, the vampire edition.

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My two dads.

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On the Disney Channel? My two dads.

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Okay, go ahead, read it. I'm sorry.

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A vampire tells his epic life story. Let me try again. A vampire tells his epic life story. Love, betrayal, loneliness, and hunger. That's not a good story. That's not good at all because that's not.

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So we'll we'll kind of do a capsule of the plot. Go, do it. Um, well, first of all, okay. Interview with a vampire.

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That's not the full name.

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The Vampire Chronicles.

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Well, actually, we can discuss that.

SPEAKER_05

Is that an add-on? Or was that anything? I feel like it was.

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Interview with a vampire is the actual name of the movie. But the Vampire Chronicles was actually what it was taken from. Originally it was a short story in the mid-70s, and then sh it was very successful, and then she attached a few other vampire short stories to create the Chronicles. But this is the one the interview with the vampire was the one that was the most successful and kind of got right got the film right now.

SPEAKER_05

So when so it was kind of Anne Rice, by the way, that's the author. This is an example you always bring up.

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Yes.

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So so when the movie was originally theatrically released, was it like Raiders of the Lost Ark? Was it just called Interview with the Vampire? Yes. So this whole subtext, like Indiana Jones was added. Okay.

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When was it added?

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Probably when they did Queen of the Damned, maybe?

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Yeah, or even later, maybe. Maybe when the TV show, yeah. Or yeah, or maybe when they did a box set or something. I don't know. That's what it was. But it was the TV show?

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Yeah.

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That was not the original.

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Yeah, because when I saw that, I was like, I've never seen this movie, and I've never heard of that.

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Is this your first time watching it?

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Yes, it was.

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Yeah, and right. I'd never heard of that either, but I did see exactly the same thing you saw. But uh anyway, we could talk about all that. But the the general plot is taking from what we just read, um, or what Travis just read. So basically, uh, and I can't pronounce all their names, so I'm not even gonna try. Um Tom Cruise. Lewis.

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Lestat.

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Oh, is Louis, I think.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, yeah, no. No, Louis Brad Pitt. It's Latin.

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Tom Cruise is Lestat. Right. Brad Pitt is Louis. So they meet in like the 1700s, and the Tom Cruise character bites the Brad Pitt character, turns him into a vampire. Shocking. And basically, this is all about the journey of their relationship, of being vampires. Uh, a midway, kind of midway through the story, they bring in uh a young girl, they turn her into a vampire. Claudia. And she, Claudia. And we're just sort of transitioning from period to period to period, starting in the 1700s, going to the 1800s, 1900s, all the way until we finally get to the modern day. And the frame of the movie is Brad Pitt uh goes to a journalist who's played by Christian Slater, and basically that's how they he tells the whole story.

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He gives an interview.

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He gives an interview, and uh hence the name of the book, which became a movie. And I will just say that it was a really big deal when this movie was being made because the book was very big. Um, it was very it was I I never read it. I don't think it was that long. It was a short story. No, I said it was big, so but it was the most popular of hers. It was very popular, yes. It was the most popular. I knew lots of people who read it. Um and when the movie was being made, it was a very big deal because the books had been so popular, and um Don't you have a story about that? Yeah, I will I guess I can tell it right now. Tell it right now. So a friend of mine was uh coaching flag football at Laurel Hall, which is a private school in the valley, and he was it's like it goes from like kindergarten through eighth grade, and he was uh coaching like the seventh and eighth grade flag football team, and I went to see uh one of his games, and uh before, during, or after the game, uh there were cheerleaders there, and he said, You see that girl over there? I said, Yeah. So that's Kirsten Dunce. I said, Okay, and she just got cast in interview with a vampire.

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Oh crap.

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And I thought, oh my god, because it was a big deal. We all knew that Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt were in it, and I was like, oh man, that's huge.

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Yeah, she's about 10 million years old.

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But she was great. I'm gonna jump ahead and just say she was great.

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Um of the two best things about this movie.

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We'll get into that. Absolutely. That's worth talking about. Anyway, that's kind of the that's the plot, and that's my little background story. And now let's do uh those are also your pre-thoughts. Let's do some prethoughts. Um, I'll start. I saw the movie when it came out in the theater, and like I said, it was a really big deal, the making of it. It was a big deal having Tom Cruise. Not as quite as big a deal to have Brad Pitt, because he wasn't quite Brad Pitt yet. I mean, he was certainly he has certainly had game stardom, but Tom Cruise was was the major name.

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Was this before or after Top Gun?

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Oh no, it was after Top Gun.

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Because this wasn't Top Gun was 86, this was 94. Yeah.

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And then it was Meet Joe Black. This was well into his into his career, Tom Cruise's career.

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Pitt done Meet Joe Black yet? I'm not sure.

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I think Joe Black was like 98 or 99. Yeah, I think that was after.

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He'd done a few movies. He was he definitely, we all knew who he was, yeah.

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I think he understood.

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I mean Fel and Louise, when he did that movie, everybody went, oh my god, who's that? Because he was like a one scene or two scene.

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True romance. True romance. But Brad Pitt on he was the couch guy. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

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So it was a really big deal. And uh I went to see it. And that's all.

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Was it a packed house?

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Yeah. That went overing weekend. It was a it was a very, very big, big thing that movie.

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This is gonna be this is gonna be my shortest pre-thought movie. You say that every time. No. These are my pre-thoughts. I had heard that there was a movie called Interview with a Vampire.

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So my pre-thoughts I heard about it, hadn't seen it until I started really getting into watching movies, and then it became like something I needed to watch. So this is my second time watching it.

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Okay, cool.

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I didn't know I was saying the name of the movie wrong for years.

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I've said it wrong for years as well.

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Never said it right. I honestly don't remember when I picked it up. It's been a while. Um uh the first time I watched it, but I just I heard about it and I watched it there. I don't really I didn't really have a lot of pre-thoughts, but this would be my fourth or fifth time watching it.

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Was it a movie that maybe because I know you and I talk about a lot of this? Was it something that like your parents had rented? At some point how you saw it.

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Yeah, but I don't think I saw it with them. I saw it after when I was older. But yeah.

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Um it'll be interesting as we talk about the movie at some point to kind of discuss sort of and I think we should do it quite, yeah, but uh kind of what is the lasting effect of that movie in terms of like where does it fit now into Hollywood film? Because it was a big video when it came out. Yeah, but I mean I think we should discuss it.

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Yeah, before our prethoughts. Yeah. So before our prethoughts. How about before our prethoughts? I think we've got to. Right. What do you think, Frank? Before or after? Before.

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Okay. Okay, great.

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Um, just this is a little after prethoughts, that's why. But my god. My whole thing was up until this was my first time seeing the movie. Okay. I'm not joking when I say I didn't know Tom Cruise was in it. I didn't know Brad Pitt was in it. I knew I knew your I knew Kirsten Dunce was in it only because you had told me your story. For whatever reason. He did no research. That's interesting.

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He wouldn't know anything about this movie.

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I didn't know anything. The only thing I knew, and I thought it was gonna be a big That kind of says something of what I was asking a little earlier then. And it never mind sets it sets. I thought it played a major part in this movie because I remember like this was maybe in 2011 or 2011, one of my friends had seen it and she was like, Oh, I I because I think I had started playing the song uh Sympathy for the Devil by Rolling Stones, and she was like, Oh, there's the song an interview with the vampires and so I thought it was like a made a big I thought it was like a big thing, something that was gonna appear a lot in the movie, so that's why I kept thinking, oh, the movie must be set in contemporary or in the 60s, maybe. So when the movie was starting, I'm like, okay. We have we have like the shot which I like. Exactly. I'm a big I'm a big sucker for like you had your shots of like San Francisco in the beginning. I'm like, this is cool, I love it. I'm like, okay, they're gonna start playing the song, and then when they got to the time period, I'm like, whoa, they're gonna put like modern music in this period piece, and then we didn't get the song until the very end, and it was a really weird Guns N' Roses cover. Yeah, it was great. It plays, but it but it's a really it's a Guns N' Roses cover. It's not Rolling Stones.

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That's not the only song they ever covered, too.

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They did some No, they they did Bob Dylan knocking on Heaven's Door.

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They also do um Um Come Together?

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No, Live and Let Die.

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Who did Come Together? That was um Another hard like a metal band who did that. Uh um the one Which is actually a pretty good version.

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No, it's Aerosmith.

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Oh, was it Aerosmith? Yeah, they did some good shit. I love Aerosmith.

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Yeah, but and that tells you just how little Steve Tyler. But you're right, you're right. There was a bridge at the beginning.

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So interesting.

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Um But and then and then someone told me, because I was talking to someone today at work and they were like, how did you not know? Like, their name's all over the poster. I'm like, and then I was like, no, at the poster I see, it's like a little bit of a vampire. I was like, I didn't know that was Tom Cruise.

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That's not that's oh.

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He is the poster, right?

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He is, but I'm just like So if we didn't do this, you wouldn't have seen it for a while.

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Because I it Or at all. Unless one of you is like, hey, like, watch it or do it.

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It it's been on my list for really, but like I said, I knew nothing about it, so I didn't it does seem odd to me, and this is not a challenge, it's just an observation, that this is a movie you never got around to seeing.

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There's movies like that for some reason. I read it or not.

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Well But that makes actually more sense. Really? Well, just because the interview of vampire, and maybe that's why I asked that question how has it survived? Maybe it hasn't.

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But I feel like I button. Yeah. I feel like I'm the only one of the only people who hasn't seen it. Because I'll talk to people that don't watch horror movies. They're like, oh, I've seen that.

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I was like, Yeah, because even though it is a horror movie, it it way transcended when it came out. It was and I think because the book was so huge that everybody was reading, I didn't, but I mean, you know, like Joni read it. I mean, I you know, so it was not considered like going to see Scream or going to see that. This was considered a mainstream Hollywood movie. And Project Hillary was more hell of a lot of blood.

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Uh it was I think it was more seen as more.

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Yeah, what? It's that's good question.

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It's not like, oh, it I think it it kind of, even though there were horror hell horror elements in it, I don't think it was like, oh, it's a horror movie. I'm not gonna watch that trash. Yeah, it was like that. This was a little more, this was high art.

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This was this was like this was like and and that should transition into our next part of our conversation, I agree, which is discussing sort of the the whole way the movie was made, the look of the movie, the style of the movie, the cinematography, the music, the the tone, the acting tone. Because it was very specific. I am and really held on to it. I get you know how sometimes we talk about, yeah, the movie had sort of a a way, but then it kind of got off that track and then it became something else. This movie never left its tone. It stayed very true. And I'd love to discuss that. It was a melodrama from top to bottom. And I would love to discuss that. I love that term melodrama.

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Um, so one bit of trivia I do know about it is that apparently Anne Rice.

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She wrote the screenplay.

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Yes, which happened. Which really surprised me. Are you gonna talk about how she didn't want Tom?

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Yeah, she was furious when she found out Tom Cruise was casted. She hated it. We should discuss that. She we're discussing it now. So we should discuss what we thought about it. Have you heard about this?

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I have written down. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05

No, she was furious because Tom Cruise, because you know, I mean, it's no secret. The movie has a bunch of like, you know, homosexual overtones in it. She was like, Tom Cruise can't do this. I can't see it, no way. And then I think he like did a scene from the movie, or like she was something he was like, he is perfect.

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She saw the final, she saw the overall thing. Yeah, actually, good.

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She was like, I was wrong.

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Yeah, she had a whole list of people that she wanted. Who did she want? Jeremy Irons being one of them. Sure, I can see that. I can see that. Yeah, I forgot who else, but there were names I don't know. One of them was like I think a French actor of a chance.

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Someone in Texas actually having a French actor play a French guy.

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What a crazy idea.

SPEAKER_03

Right. She called it bizarre. Which is like a really like it's not the most insulting word on its own, but just to say that your casting was bizarre. It's like it's still bizarre. Yeah.

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Yeah. I mean, it was a Hollywood poll. Come on. He was his putting his name in that movie, right? Absolutely nail you a great first couple weekends.

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I think he like nailed it though. Okay.

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No, absolutely we can discuss that.

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I also think out of the two between him and Brad, I think Tom did a great job.

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Oh yeah. And out of the two of them, I would agree with you.

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Right. And then well, and then but I feel like Brad had his own um reason for not being completely in it.

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What was that? Well, because he said that he Was he was he going out with Jennifer Anston? No, not yet.

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No, I don't I don't think so. No, but because he said he was depressed. Oh, at night like 90% of the time. And then um Yeah, he just didn't like that his character was not as it was in the book. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, so what was different, do you know? He said he was just more of like just there. He didn't have any development or whatever. See, or he wasn't as in-depth, it was more focused on Cruz than his character, so he was like, I'm just here. But what am I doing?

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That worked because I kind of took it in the film like yeah, he was distanced. Yeah, phony it in because honestly, he didn't like I said, like he wasn't like unlike Kirsten Duncan, like Tom Cruise, like his like, I don't want to drink the blood of people, I don't want any of this. And he repeated a few.

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His character himself was feeling a lot of those. But it's just not engaging the way he does it.

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Which is all just so much brooding.

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Yeah.

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He was so, you know.

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Stuck in his ways. Yeah.

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Kirsten Dunst to me stole that movie. Agreed. Once she came on, just swiped it away from everybody.

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Her first mama, and then right swiped Tom Cruise's neck.

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Oh, that was great.

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Once she became a vampire and she was a brat, I just loved it, I couldn't get enough of her. And I had remembered child when I saw it in the original, you know, when I originally saw it, I remember walking out thinking, damn, she stole that movie. And I remembered that in my mind when I was starting to watch this. And when I when I when it happened again, I went, yeah, she really did steal that movie. She was great. Um yeah, I agree. Tom Cruise, I mean not Tom Cruise, uh, Brad Pitt just kind of was there. Yeah. But his eyes, he looked like deer and headlights all the time. He was a character. He had one note. And the movie could be could somewhat be guilty of that, generally speaking, outside of Chris and Dunce, because Tom Cruise also was kind of not one note like mono note. That's what Brad Pitt was mono, but even Tom Cruise's, you know, elevated, more m I don't know what what's the word. Eccentric. Eccentric for sure, but uh, you know, whatever. Okay, I'll think of it.

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He was up here. He had range, but he was always out of here. Always here.

SPEAKER_01

It always and he almost like the the word the lines always seem to float in the same way. Yeah, but like he never really changed much.

SPEAKER_05

Because it's weird, because it's like it was it was like almost like it was a it was a good place though. It was very over the top, but it like worked for super and it didn't come off as like super goofy. Especially since I think when the time period of when it was set, where they were kind of supposed to be like aristocratic, like a little bit, and they were all like wearing the wigs and wearing the attire. I think it helped, like I think if he was acting like that and it was set in like contemporary, I think it would maybe stick out a little more.

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And it wouldn't work.

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It wouldn't work, but I think it just totally fit in with the costuming, the production design.

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It it is weird how how in acting you can get away with and even in writing, you can get away with things in a period that we don't we weren't in. So we can't really question it. Well maybe they did act like that. Maybe that is the way people talk. And like you say, they're in these very, you know, they're they're their silk cost, you know, clothes and their fancy wigs. As long as it reads true.

SPEAKER_03

And you there's a there's an interesting inverse. I have a really big interest in like uh like uh ancient Greece, and so reading up on it, there's like an inverse thing where now when we see movies like that, especially like Coliseum scenes, it's all very like epic and grand. But if you were to look into the history of like the uh Olympics, the ancient Olympics, in between matches, they would have people come out and like market and hawk their wares. It'd be like, come and get like Antonia's olive oil, 10, like you know, like we see we would if you would see that in a movie today, you would be like, that does that's that's a little much.

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And the armor is entirely different, too. Like, like, like I was gonna say, this is gonna sound really dumb, but like it was something that like in period pieces, especially set when this is like you know, I think they're in like the so many cards I've never seen before. I was like, oh, is when they're at the party, they're at one of the first parties, and Brad Pitt, no, uh yeah, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. Like, I think Tom Cruise is with like the older lady, and they go walking and they're walking her poodles. Oh, yeah. I'm like, you never I never see dog walking like ever. That scene. That's a nice scene. When they were walking the poodles, I'm like, oh, that's something you never see in the 1700s. Like, we know people had dogs, you know. And they had to walk them, they had to walk them, but you never saw like the leashes and like the poodles and the poodles were all like crimped up and stuff. I was like, yeah, it was yeah, and that was a really cool scene too, where he like goes after the dog. Oh and then she's like, and then you would tell Chris's like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_06

Like, what the fuck, guy? Yeah. And then he ate the birds.

SPEAKER_03

Rats. And the rats. And the rats. He didn't like the rats. You know, I can always tell where you are, Louie, by following. I was gonna say, yeah. The Trail of Dead Rats.

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Moody.

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Mm-hmm. It's very moody. It's a very moody movie. You know who else we have to talk about? But Antonio Banderas. Who I forgot was in the movie.

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And when he showed up, I went, Oh, that's Antonio Banderas. I forgot he was in the movie.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't really get in the second half of it. When that movie came out, I'm not sure I was totally connected to him yet. What have you done? I think he had Desperato.

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He had done Desperado. See, which I never saw.

SPEAKER_01

See, I never saw those movies.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, they're so good.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sure they are.

SPEAKER_05

Who was the edge?

SPEAKER_01

It has written in the right. And I gotta read on the screen. Who was he? He looked familiar.

SPEAKER_05

He looked super familiar. The right-hand man. What else was he in?

SPEAKER_01

He was in Stephen Ray, huh? Look at yes.

SPEAKER_03

Look it up. Have you seen um Cry, uh, what's it called? Uh Crying Game? Crying Game. You've seen V for Vendetta, right? Yes. He's the he's the uh the TV host.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's why.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so let's just stop for a second. Did you see Crying Game? No one's seen it?

SPEAKER_06

I heard that's what he was known for.

SPEAKER_01

Can I heard it's great? Can I ask to put that on a list for us to watch? Why don't we watch it next time? I will tell you, this is a I think it would be a really, really cool movie to talk about. We can do that as our next one. Nobody's seen it. I saw it, but I only saw it once. I'd love to see it again.

SPEAKER_05

We can do it for our next one.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Totally worth it. This would be a really interesting conversation.

SPEAKER_05

Because it's the same director as this. Yeah, Neil Jordan.

SPEAKER_06

I've I mean, I haven't heard of much directors, so I didn't hear of this guy. So I looked up his stuff. The only movie I've seen of his was Greta.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I've never seen Greta. I remember the movie. It's a fun movie.

SPEAKER_05

I don't know if we'll cover it here, but it's actually a lot of fun. Uh really. Tom had let me borrow it years ago. It's one of his other movies called High Spirits. If anyone's seen it, it's it's a lot of fun. You should watch it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, he did Byzantium. Oh, yeah. A few years ago, right? Yeah. It was with um Yeah, I mean.

SPEAKER_06

Did you guys know Cheryl was attached to this?

SPEAKER_01

What? Oh, she was attached to this, yes.

SPEAKER_06

What? Because Anne Rice was like, well, this might be too gay for Hollywood. So instead of Brad Pitt, it was gonna be a chair. That's right.

SPEAKER_03

Right? That's right.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, and then she even made a song for it too. Can you imagine? Don't they still use the song? No, I think it was released. She would have been floating.

SPEAKER_01

I heard it's very good. But can you imagine if they would have Evelyn? Because that changes everything. Moonstruck 2.

SPEAKER_05

That's just floating.

SPEAKER_01

That just changes everything you can um think about.

SPEAKER_03

Do you think Bob Mackey would have done all the outfits? Absolutely. That would have been cool. And the hair headdresses would have been. I kind of want to see that.

SPEAKER_06

It would just turn into like a romance movie.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, so it's basically it would have been burlesque.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I was gonna say it would have been. It would have been uh Mamma Mia 2.

SPEAKER_06

Mamma Mia. Mamma Mia. Here we go again.

SPEAKER_03

How can I rejoice? I had it wrong. That uh Steven Rea, he's not he's the the police. I was gonna say that doesn't sound like wait, no, that's not him. Same movie, different.

SPEAKER_01

That'll be fun. Yeah. So Forrest Whitaker's in that, right? Yes. Oh nice. Very good film. So horrible accents. I was gonna say in this movie.

SPEAKER_05

So what did we think of that we've been talking about it a while?

SPEAKER_01

I don't even know why they bothered doing it. Why did they even bother doing accents? First of all, because this is the real leads had no French accents at all, and they were both French. So why are other people doing accents? No chemistry. No chemistry. That was always the thing, if I may just roll back to my childhood. Of course. That I thought was so. Has anybody ever seen the sound of music besides me? Mm-hmm. Okay. So you got the seven Von Trap kids, right? So you got Dad who Okay, so everybody's German or Austrian, rather. Everybody's Austrian. Dad has an English accent. Maria has an English accent. Okay. Three of the kids have English accents. The other four have an American accent. Okay. And all the nuns have American accents. However, the Germans who come and invade all have German accents.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's it's simple chemistry, Dan. If you take two British people and then three British kids, you get four other American kids.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's how it works. So er so I always think about that because then like what you're referencing is like, what's going on? Why are our accents all over the map? Why don't we just decide to do no accents?

SPEAKER_03

That's okay. Well, it's like that. Because nobody cares. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We only care when we start hearing certain people doing accents. Yeah. What do you mean, certain people? Are you talking about Antonin Banderas? That actually is how he talks.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Um that really is his accent. I think it's part of that whole like swords and sandals thing where like they're not gonna try, they'll just go with a British accent because it works. Yeah, the British kind of covers everybody. Yeah. It's the catch-all like accent. No, it's just the British accent.

SPEAKER_05

Um that's how they all talk back then. Dan or did anyone here ever see that Prince of Persia movie? Yes. That came out 15 years ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That was a movie that destroyed Jake Hill and Jill Jill Gemma. Helen Hole? That really hurt his.

SPEAKER_03

That had Gemma Adderton in it.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That hurt Jake's Byzantium.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, for a little bit, but then he like bounced back for sure.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he's good. I think he bounced back with Nightcrawler.

SPEAKER_01

That's a long time. And you know what's weird is I loved Nightcrawler. A it should have been nominated for Best Picture. He should have definitely been nominated for Best Actor. That movie got great big time. He's a wonderful actor, but he's not box office.

SPEAKER_05

I like him in like little easy like indie.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean? And and that's who is anymore? Tom Cruises.

SPEAKER_05

There is no more. Timothy Shallow. Tom Cruise is the last crash hit.

SPEAKER_06

Is he? F1. Kind of. F1.

SPEAKER_03

Killed it pretty well. I mean, but he did a better job in that than he did this, so.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I feel like he got better with age. I will. Not personally, but acting wise.

SPEAKER_01

I think Brad Pitt, the the early part of his career, he was a good actor, but they were I and I think part of his casting. He was they were very leaning in on the fact that this guy's just freaking really good looking. Yeah. And so he was getting those roles. Um like this one. I think exactly. I think as he matured and got a little more control over his career and his choices. I knew when to say no. And I think we got to kind of know a little bit more about Brad Pitt and his acting. And that's the thing. Not just being this really deep, great actor, but a lot more dimension and you know, a lot more interesting than what he was in his earlier roles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So, real quick, and then we'll go back to that. The reason I brought up Prince of Persia, what was the actress's name, Frank?

SPEAKER_01

Gemma Adderton. So this movie takes place in Persia. Wait, what's the last name? Gemma. Gemma Arditan.

SPEAKER_03

Arderton? Arderton?

SPEAKER_05

So point of the story is this movie set in Persia. You have Arderton. Jesus. Jake Gyllenhaal playing a Persian. And then you have Gemma Arditan. And she doesn't even she's speaking with a British accent.

SPEAKER_03

She's British. She was a Bond girl, too. Oh, it's right. She was a Bond girl. It's quantum of Solid. Strawberry Fields. There you go. Who's never named in the movie, like at all?

SPEAKER_06

The Bond girl? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

No, that's just that's they just call her Fields.

SPEAKER_01

But her name is Strawberry Fields, which is to be fair. Yeah. But let's be fair. Is it is it uh Goldfinger, the greatest Bond girl's name ever? Pussy Galore. Pussy Galore. Yeah. I love how Austin refused to answer. 1965, that's the her name. A lot of vagina.

SPEAKER_00

What did you say?

SPEAKER_01

A lot of a lot.

SPEAKER_05

I said a lot of vagina.

SPEAKER_01

A lot of power. That's still crazy to me. Every time I think about that, it was her name.

SPEAKER_05

Pussy Galore, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And nobody, I'm sure, I mean we all went, hmm? Wait a second. She doesn't have a cat.

SPEAKER_03

What?

SPEAKER_01

What's going on here?

SPEAKER_05

Um, so what did we think of like the production design? I think it was like one of the best.

SPEAKER_01

We should really talk about the whole art art direction and the way it's shot, cinematography, music, all that stuff. This was great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I liked it too because I think like obviously it was it had big set pieces in it, but I liked it too because I think for the most part, like it used its CG very minimally. Yeah. And I feel like what really stood out in the production movie, which is unfortunately you don't see it as much nowadays, is every room they're in, every castle they go in, every looks lived in.

SPEAKER_01

Are those all real locations? They're all real. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05

And not only are they real, it doesn't seem like soundstage list, they actually seem like they're lived in. Because you know, like sometimes when you watch like some shows or movies, it's like, yeah, it's someone's house, but it can be like anyone's house. Right.

SPEAKER_03

White wall syndrome, huh? White wall syndrome.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's like this movie just really everything just feels so lived in and like authentic and like I don't know the production. I it just made me really wish I had seen this movie in theaters. Because I'm sure it just would look beautiful. Like I think just I feel like the costume designer, productions, just everyone, like the whole team was just on that same stream and they were just all going together and everything tied in so well.

SPEAKER_01

I think it won awards in that. Okay. I think costumes won. I think art direction, makeup, things like that won.

SPEAKER_06

Dunce won.

SPEAKER_01

Don't see.

SPEAKER_06

Dunce got nominated for Golden. No, she won the Fangoria Award, but still that's like really cool. Yeah, no, she was great.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it won um Best Actress for Kirsten. Uh oh, here, Baptist. It won cinematography, which well deserved. Of course. Production design. Uh, let's see.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it won costumes too, no different one.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it won a golden raspberry for worse screen couple for Tom Cruise and Red Pitt. There you go. Well deserved. Oh, yeah. The most important one. That is M T movie war.

SPEAKER_06

Brad Pitt got MTV movie award, right?

SPEAKER_03

Best male performance. Uh yeah, I don't know about that one.

SPEAKER_06

Um the makeup was great, the special effects.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, because I think in some.

SPEAKER_03

The costume was Saturn Awards.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. I it's not a design comparison because I think it's it's like I know we had seen Twilight before and we talked about it. And we, you know, we had issues with it. But I think too, like the vampires in this movie, they do look a little over the top with the makeup, especially with the eyes. But like I feel like unlike Twilight Base, like it just it works in the story.

SPEAKER_06

I'd rather scary eyes than glitter skin.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, like it just like even with like the costuming and the way they move, how they're moving fast, and the way they're floating around. And like I never saw it, but especially in like the third Twilight movie, they're all wearing like the red eyes and the red. Oh yeah, the vultures.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I just but I feel like those are um I think they're they're not vampires, they're like the high rail.

SPEAKER_06

Like witches or something.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but I just feel like it's over-the-top costume, but I feel like go on, Dan.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just gonna just chiming in. I just think the vampires in this movie seem way more human. Yeah. They they really got away from that whole and they really and if you read about the the movie and the or Anne Rice and the storytelling, she really broke away from the the vampire trope. She really did not lean.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, some things, but he was watching the movie, Nasferatu in the theater.

SPEAKER_01

But not generally. You know, she presented vampires in a in a way more human way, gave them you know, personalities, gave them, you know.

SPEAKER_05

And I think especially in the end, it really sells it too when it's kind of like I guess like Christian Slater doesn't know why it is being told the story. And at the end it's like, well, it's very much a cautionary tale, in a sense, because it's like, I don't know if like Brad Pitt knows that like Tom Cruise is waiting for him.

SPEAKER_01

The ending is I thought it was cool that Tom Cruise is in the backseat of his car. I thought it was cool how it ended, but at the same time I will go, what's going on?

SPEAKER_05

But do you think it's what does this all mean? Well, do you think that's what I question? Well, do you think it's because Brad Pitt knew that like That's fine, but what does that mean?

SPEAKER_01

Well, as in-what that Tom Cruise was going to find him at the point of the ending of that movie with Tristian Slater, I mean.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I'm not I'm just saying I think I'm not saying I understand the point, but I'm thinking it's because remember in the beginning, because like I said, you know, you know, Christian Slater's like, oh, you're a vampire. That's super cool, because you know, everyone thinks being a vampire is cool, being immortal's cool, but Bradkitt kind of tells him it's like it's not all glamour, like it sucks. So I think, and that's what I think he wants Christian Slater to realize at the end.

SPEAKER_01

But isn't it weird? Like, I got that by the end. Why is Christian Slater saying, make me a vampire? Remember that for a moment? He was like, Yeah, because he's a kid. But didn't you just did you not go on the same journey? I just went on for two hours, and then I thought I thought was a weird thing. And I think that's why Brad Pitt play for me.

SPEAKER_05

And I thought that's why Brad Pitt got frustrated and left, and then Tom Good. And I'm not saying, I'm not saying it all makes sense. I'm saying that's just how I interpreted it. No, no, no. I don't know if that was the intention.

SPEAKER_01

I just thought it was all cool, but afterwards I kind of went, I don't really know what the point is. Not that I didn't find it interesting.

SPEAKER_06

Did I miss it? Did Brad did Louis ever get his like dark powers? Because you know how Lestat can hear thoughts?

SPEAKER_05

I don't think he I don't know, I don't know about it. Well he said pretty much that when Claudia died that like he was like, Oh, this is the end of my human, like I'm gonna start like eating people and doing it now. But it never says if he got his dark powers. I know he moves fast, he gets the fast movement.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he sure did.

SPEAKER_05

But I don't know if he's able to read. I mean, maybe he's able to read. I don't know, it doesn't say.

SPEAKER_01

I have a question. Um something maybe I missed, but the whole thing where she Who's she? Claudia convinces Tom Cruise uh to drink the blood, and it's a dead person, which of course, if you do that, that kills a vampire, right? And then she sliced his throat, but then he came back, and by the end of the movie, he was exactly back to being full-on Tom Cruise. So I didn't understand the whole lore behind all that.

SPEAKER_06

Saying that the the twins were just drunk, but they were actually dead, so he got poisoned. Right. Yeah, and then they dropped him off of the swamp, but he survived because he kept drinking blood of like reptiles and everything, so that's why he looks so haggard.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. I must have missed it.

SPEAKER_06

And he lived on that for so long, and then when he ran to Brad Pitt again, he wanted Brad Pitt to give him blood so that he comes back to normal and then they can rejoin. Brad's like, hmm, no.

SPEAKER_03

Rejoin.

SPEAKER_05

And and and that's why he wasn't.

SPEAKER_06

And then and then he drank Slater's blood, and that's why he lived on the blood. And that's when he got fully read- and that's when he got fully.

SPEAKER_05

That's when he got fully regenerated. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

See, I didn't that didn't For some reason that didn't read for me. I don't know why. I must I was probably distracted. Really good.

SPEAKER_05

I was scared. Because that's why, yeah, and in the ending when they meet in New Orleans, that's why too, Tom Cruise is telling him, like, oh, you can be my companion again, and you can get people for me.

SPEAKER_06

Louis Part II.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, so I can get blood and kind of regain off of that, yeah. Get my abilities back and regain what I how I once was.

SPEAKER_01

Now there is a sequel that nobody's in, but Queen of the Queen of the Damned. I've watched it, I haven't seen it. But there's no nobody from the bits of it, but I never I never's in it, right? It's not really a sequel to the story, though. Yeah. Wasn't there another part of her short stories then? That must be one of her stories. It is.

SPEAKER_03

It's actually um the the Queen of the Damned is the um the second one. She's the the the I think the source of all vampires. Okay. It's like a prequel almost? Yeah, I guess um, like I I can't remember I I haven't looked into the story too deeply, but I remember when I did a deep dive on the the books forever ago, um, what I gained what I like remember from it is that basically, like in ancient Egypt, there was two sisters, and one of them was cursed, and that's Akasha, the Queen of the Damned, and she is where all vampires come from. Oh wow. And so the the movie um was about her being reawakened um in like modern times or something. But um, I know it started Leah and it looked cool. I remember that poster was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it was a very hot topic. Yeah, the poster is actually really cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I I think there was one other um movie that they did that had Last those regarded as a good movie.

SPEAKER_06

I was gonna say, I think Anne Rice like completely owned it.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's not I wonder if I may now shift us for a second. You can, I guess. I wonder. Well, thank you, Frank. I wonder if you made the movie today, not remade the movie. They did. Let's let's let's no no. Let's pretend like I haven't seen the TV series. That actually that's my question. Because I was just saying, if they made the movie today as a first time, would they make it like they made that? It feels like could you do that now with that all that moodiness and all that sort of brooding and all that?

SPEAKER_03

I feel like it would have been a cash crab. Like they they I don't think they would have given it the um the care that they gave it in this movie in terms of the production value and actually trying, even though it is a melodrama. Yeah, it is a melodrama, big time. It's it's it takes itself like um like craft-wise, it's very they're serious about it. Yeah. And I don't I don't know. In in this day and age of like pumping stuff out, like I think it I think more than likely it would have been like just a cash grab. I think it would be a little bit more than a little bit more.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, I think it would have totally been made as uh young adult, yeah. I think it would have totally gone. They would have got something like Zach Efron tied.

SPEAKER_06

I was gonna say, I think they would definitely lean more on like the homo. Yeah, well, they do. They wouldn't be homo. They wouldn't be more, they wouldn't be as subtle as like this movie, right?

SPEAKER_05

Um from my understanding from the TV show. I think it's like topless half the time. There's like, yeah, right, Frank?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, this movie is like this, and then the TV show is like this.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's what again.

SPEAKER_01

Movie like the camera? Movie this, TV show this. Is the movie, is the TV show also very moody like this? It is. This is a rock star.

SPEAKER_03

It's very melodramatic.

SPEAKER_05

You've seen it, right, Frank?

SPEAKER_03

I've seen parts of it, yeah. I haven't caught up to the present day, but where I'm at currently, um they still haven't met Claudia.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, I always thought it was like contemporary, like what it goes back and forth.

SPEAKER_03

So, like um, they do the interview portion and the the past stuff, yeah, but it's just stretched out and much more detailed. Gotcha. And it it doesn't feel like weird or anything. I think they they catch up to the movie. Or no. What did I read?

SPEAKER_06

That would be kind of cool if that's true. What did I read? I thought three seasons right now?

SPEAKER_03

Yes. And technically, um, it doesn't follow the book in that um if I'm remembering correctly, this is the second time that the ki the uh the interviewer, the the journalist is interviewing Louie. Oh yeah, like he's much older, he's like in his 70s.

SPEAKER_06

The interviewer?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, and he has Parkinson's disease. Oh shit. And so it's like twist. It's a it's it's a part of why he wants to be like a vampire. In case he wants to, yeah. Yeah. That would make more sense. I would like to live forever with Parkinson's disease. Oh god. That would suck. He becomes a vampire, he finds out, wait, it didn't go away.

SPEAKER_05

In the same state.

SPEAKER_03

But um, you know, it's really good. It's very gothic and romantic and dark and uh a lot gorier. I think I saw someone's face ripped off in the first episode. Okay, I'm good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I didn't think this movie was romantic. I didn't also tell me you're straight without telling me you're straight. I also didn't think it was sexy. Meaning it wasn't finding like there are some vampire movies, like is it Coppola's uh Dracula? That movie's pretty freaking sexy. Gary Oldman. No, but I mean there's a lot of like sensual crap going down. Yes. Literally, I only saw it once. I didn't find it sensual because I found all the women to be just like, what? Yeah, kill her. That's fine with me.

SPEAKER_06

I think they're well, I think I read somewhere it's like the the when they're drinking blood, that's when it's supposed to be taking us like sexy. But the one scene for me was when the well I don't think was it two girls, but then like I like that scene, not because it's sexy, but I feel like I don't know where I'm going with this, but I did like the scene with two girls and then Brad Pitt was outside in the patio and then Tom Cruise was killing both of them. And then they he showed up during the coffin. That was a cool scene.

SPEAKER_01

No, I thought those were all cool. I never thought to myself, that's pretty sexy. No. But there is something really sexual about vampires.

SPEAKER_05

Well, in the very beginning, even as part of the logosi is part of the There's something is always this really Because that's what Tom Cruise wants back, because that's the thing too, when he was like No, is he says, because remember he was like, Oh yeah, like I could get anyone I wanted is like he's like no one can ever reject me, and then Brad Pitt's like Well I did. He was like, or something like that, and it's like so Dan, answer your question. The book, Interview with the Vampire, 368 pages, and it's book one of thirteen.

SPEAKER_01

Oh okay, so it's not a short story. No read no no, but look it up because I think it was started as a short story in 1975. It was originally released as a short story. Story and then she expanded into a novel.

SPEAKER_06

Because I think Queen of the Damned is a combination of Queen of the Damned and then another story. Something thief.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the body thief or something. I'm pretty sure it started as a short story, though.

SPEAKER_03

I think they did. I think the original like vampire chronicles was probably like the the first first story.

SPEAKER_06

What's the short story?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, because the the uh I think it was 1976, like you said.

SPEAKER_03

I think you'll be you'll be happy to know though that one of those 13 books is called Prince Lestat and the Realms of Atlantis. I think so. So it gets pretty spicy in there somewhere.

SPEAKER_06

A smut book, if you will.

SPEAKER_01

We're in Atlantis, right? God's sake. We're underwater.

SPEAKER_03

You're you're right, Travis. Lestat does become a rock mus musician. That's how he awakens the Queen of the Downed.

SPEAKER_06

With his music.

SPEAKER_03

With his rock music.

SPEAKER_01

Can you imagine if Brooke Me and Cruz had made like a franchise career out of playing that part versus doing that? Rock of Ages.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, so was Rock of Ages?

SPEAKER_05

So was Rock of Ages a secret sequel? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Who's hands up who saw Rock of Ages?

SPEAKER_05

Keep your hand up, Dan. I know you're the only one that saw it.

SPEAKER_01

I'm maybe the only one that saw it. Did you like them to? Period. Oh my gosh. Did you? Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05

Was it good?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I'm not understanding. Oh, I thought you loved it. It sounded like you loved it. No.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. I will say this. Uh-huh. As awkward and uncomfortable as Alec Baldwin was in that movie.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know if he was in that. I'm gonna look at the posting.

SPEAKER_01

Tom Cruise is the only reason to see that movie. He plays this like metalhead star and he does a great job. But the movie sucks. It's awful.

SPEAKER_03

Tom Cruise is just like really good. He's just weirdness.

SPEAKER_01

He's like, it's like it's like uh Tropic Thunder. He's the producer. Yeah. He's so good in that role.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, for me, I was I was going through all of the Mission Impossible, and I'm like, fuck, you're a good actor. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I remember well you're talking, you know, I love that that series. You know what? The AMC intro should all should have him too. Because the couple? No. No, I'm Nicole Kidman.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my god, what's the speech? Russell.

SPEAKER_03

Just wipe a little Vaseline off that lens so we can get a better look at her. Yeah. Did you see the trailer for Captain Zeta Jones is in Records?

SPEAKER_06

Oh, I haven't seen it yet.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they definitely put some Vaseline on that lens. It's a little uncanny, but it's cool.

SPEAKER_06

Crapical Magic 2.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Who has seen a trailer for sheep detectives?

SPEAKER_06

I want to see it.

SPEAKER_01

I cannot wait to see the detective.

SPEAKER_06

Do you know who wrote it? Okay, we've heard of it.

SPEAKER_01

You know who wrote it?

SPEAKER_06

Craig Mason. He did Last of Us. Chernobyl. Are you kidding me? He wrote it. I told you that.

SPEAKER_01

It looks like so much fun. I heard it's a good book series because I think they're not gonna laugh our asses off.

SPEAKER_05

I was telling somebody. Interview with the podcasters much. I thought the trailer's great.

SPEAKER_06

I don't remember the story.

SPEAKER_05

Basically, we saw the post. We saw the poster and I was so excited for it, and you thought you you all thought I was joking. Yeah, I really didn't know it looks good.

SPEAKER_06

And then I saw the trailer and I was like, oh no, Travis would like this.

SPEAKER_05

Travis would like you seen the preview?

SPEAKER_06

No. Oh no, you know what though? The trailer looked kind of fun. What's his name? Hugh Jackman. He wrangles two. And I think he was the one that died.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he gets murdered and the sheep were trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_06

He reads mystery novels to his sheep. What's the plural for sheep? Is it sheep or sheep? Sheep, thank you. So he reads mystery novels to his sheep. He dies, so then the sheep come together to solve the mystery. Is it live action or is it What the fuck? Yeah. So the sheep obviously like their mouths move.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So where are we at with this? At your house.

SPEAKER_05

We were talking about um Did you know that? Well, we were talking about the novels and we're talking about how it kind of relates to Queen of the Damned. Um, let's talk about because we keep saying we're gonna talk about it, but we haven't. What did everyone think of the soundtrack? Okay.

SPEAKER_06

Can I say my piece? It sounded generic to me.

SPEAKER_05

I agree. Okay. Thank you. It it it fit in with for me, it's something that I think worked with the movie, but I would never I would never listen to it on its own.

SPEAKER_01

I g I guess after just seeing Project Hail Mary, where I thought the soundtrack was phenomenal, tied into the movie. Yeah. Not that I hadn't heard all those songs a million times, but the way they tied it into the movie was just like, this is genius.

SPEAKER_06

Artistic.

SPEAKER_01

No, I thought it was very generic.

SPEAKER_06

It's like this uh very much.

SPEAKER_05

But like I said, for me it it it worked, it worked with the movie, but I like I said it didn't work. It didn't distract, but it's not it didn't distract, but it didn't like it. It wasn't enhanced. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But it didn't distract, which means generally speaking, it was forgettable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, okay. How did the movie survive in terms of like I asked this question earlier? You never know Tom Cruise was in it. And I don't mean that as a that's actually not an a a challenge. That to me is a statement about the film. No, I'm not saying it's bad. I'm curious though. It's a movie I completely forgot about until you guys said, Oh, we're gonna do interview with Vampire. Oh my god, yes, that was a huge movie.

SPEAKER_06

I think for me, it's more of like if you're into a specific type of movie, that's something you need to watch. Or you think you need to watch. I agree.

SPEAKER_05

And I think within the community of that people talk about it. But I I th I kind of see what you're saying, Dan. I think it's because like I said, I kind of have my blinders on a little bit because this movie for me, for all of us, has been out for 30 years. So I remember it being a movie. I remember it coming out, and I know, you know, in the circles that I hang around where we talk about movies, it's one that's worth up. But I think if you it's interesting now to think with general audiences, do they know what it did?

SPEAKER_06

I mean, yeah, I think like like for you, it's this floating around and it was reminded of it. Right there, but it's not something you're gonna do. Never think about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I'll probably never see it again. And it's not it's I don't I don't need to ever see it. It could be a background movie kind of thing, but not something you put on your I mean, I would watch it with somebody if they say, Oh, I've always wanted to see that.

SPEAKER_05

But you're not gonna be like, I want to watch it. And it's not one of those movies. I would watch Brom Stoker more Braum. Braum. And it's not, I don't think it's one of those movies that like revival houses are like playing the like no. You know what I mean? Like I said, I think it's there, and I think it's very much if you were to ask for someone's recommendation of it, they would say, Oh, you should watch it. You'd like it, it's good. And I think with that, I think that's kind of how it survived. Yeah, it's reputation right now. It's a everyone kind of knows someone that's seen it, or people will recommend it to you, but it's not exactly I don't know how well it's finding new audiences on its own.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think it's I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

Because it's one of those two that now that I think about it, unless I just completely forgot, like even growing up, I'm like, I don't really remember seeing this on TV.

SPEAKER_01

No, I wonder if that's the reason why they've made a TV series out of it. Yeah. Because the movie itself, you know how some things you wouldn't make a TV series because the film itself is just so gigantic, you would just be unless you're Scream.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But you know what I mean. I know what you mean, but I'm saying to meet up was always wild. Let's think of the you know, one of the sequel, like a movie sequel or something. Yeah, you wouldn't just do a sequel, you wouldn't do anything. But I think this movie, I mean, obviously she had such a ton of you know, writing behind all that that okay, yeah, we can make a series out of this, and nobody's thinking about the movie anyway. Yeah, it's not like the movie's in its way. Because I'm sure he's comparing it to the movie, nobody's even thinking about the movie.

SPEAKER_05

And I'm sure there's a good amount of younger audiences that saw it, maybe not knowing it was and that could draw, could lead to the movie. Yeah, or maybe or I think maybe I found something where some people found out about the show and they're like, oh, it's actually based off a movie. So then maybe they watched the movie, maybe they didn't.

SPEAKER_06

If I read correctly, I think her son wrote the script for the show. Oh, interesting. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I think they try to make the the a statue movie, but they didn't like the script, and then the son was able to take over something. So he wrote Are you looking it up?

SPEAKER_03

I am looking at it right now.

SPEAKER_06

Please find it quick. Because I'm talking out of my ass now.

SPEAKER_03

Uh he's an executive producer.

SPEAKER_05

Dan, that's a that's a question if that's what I'm I'm just stumped on to see with modern audiences if how known how in the cultural zeitgeist.

SPEAKER_06

I'm gonna look up letterbox, see what people are saying.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, it has a 3.6.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, but I want to know what the point is.

SPEAKER_01

I know, but yeah, I know what you're saying, but it it's interesting because it's not really a movie it's not I mean Tom Cruise has had such a prolific career, but that's not a movie you you ever would bring up.

SPEAKER_05

No, and and and that's that's what I'm saying, that's a good point. Like, like I said, I kind of have my blinders on it, but I can't I'm I'm a little biased on it.

SPEAKER_06

Why did Jed not like you? She didn't rate it. Um she said she liked it. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, honestly, risky business is still a big Tom Cruise movie. And that really is just a dumb weekend movie.

SPEAKER_05

And you know what's another movie, like another movie that doesn't get brought up a lot, but I think it probably does get out brought brought up more often than Interview with the Vampire is Legend.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I've never seen it. Yeah, it's cool.

SPEAKER_05

Tim Curry. Oh. Yeah. Where Tim Curry plays the devil. I am legend.

SPEAKER_03

Never mind. Did you find anything? Um Yeah, he executive produced the show. Um, I honestly I going back to the whole question about it being a cult classic and its staying power, I would disagree a little bit on it being like not being brought up in that same like it's it's not brought up as a classic, but I feel like it fits into that territory of a classic film. Not everyone's gonna watch it. You know, most people growing up in this day won't go back and watch a bunch of old movies. Like, I doubt anybody that was born after like 2014 is gonna be going back to watch like Risky Business or Dirty Dancing. That's true, Interview with a Vampire. But we consider those classics, and those are considered classic films. This is uh obviously a a bit more recent, but I would put it in that same category of it's a known movie, it's a known classic, but it's not something that drives like viewership or sales or anything.

SPEAKER_05

That's what we're saying, and I'm I'm not saying I don't think it's a classic. My whole thing, my whole I'm saying it, I'm I'm saying it's a classic.

SPEAKER_03

I think it's a classic.

SPEAKER_05

No, I'm that's what I'm saying, is I'm saying I'm not I'm I I wasn't saying that I don't think it's a classic. Oh, okay. Okay. For me, what I'm just saying is is I don't know how well the movie now I keep going this, I'm all over Sam's camera. How the movie now is finding new audiences. Yeah. I don't know how well.

SPEAKER_01

But I think Frank makes a great point that I think there's a lot of movies that are not going to find new audiences because it's just the way things are now. She detectives will not find when I was growing a new audience in 20 years. When I was a kid growing up, we were still going to movies and theaters. There still wasn't any other way to see movies. Yeah. And the only way you ever saw them again was when they ended up on TV and then they were cut over, you know, a million commercials. So I was being taken to old movies by my parents because that was the only way you were gonna see some Like It Hot. It's the only way you're gonna go see um, you know, any of those Gone with the Wind or any of those movies was in Revival Houses. So that's when I saw them. So my generation was able to hang on to the classics of my parents' generation. Now there's just it's like there's so much product, yeah, they don't even watch old all they do is watch streaming TV.

SPEAKER_03

It's so easy to get all this like like this torrent of different products, yeah. And if watching films and content and all that stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't even watch the movies anymore.

SPEAKER_05

Because think about this, because you said, okay, like, you know, when you were a kid, you know, and this is everyone, there were movies in theaters, and then a lot of times you can get to see them in revival houses. Well, think about like even when like VHS came out, how many movies were lost and never made it to VHS? Yeah, so the movies are gone. And then even think about even more how many were on VHS that never made it to DVD. That are now lost. I feel like with every format, like you said, we're losing these movies, and it's like, yeah, every generation has these movies that they grew up with, and it's like important now, like how often do they move to the next generation?

SPEAKER_01

I remember the the biggest thing that happened when cable first came out, right? When we all got our cable boxes, one of the biggest networks was American Movie Classics. AMC. And that's all they did was show old movies. They still I mean literally old movies. No, but when I was growing up, K Earth was playing classics, and that was from the 50s and 60s. K Earth is now playing classics from the 2000s. Oh, yeah, it's not gonna talk about that. I'm saying they've they so it's like AMC showing literally black and white movies from the 30s.

SPEAKER_05

Jack FM is now playing music from when I was in middle school. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

And KLOS everything just keeps evolving and changing, and we lose what's behind us. That's what I'm saying. And we literally lose it. Unless you are a student of it or you are someone who's seeking it out. Or a data hoarder. Or like you're really doing it, right? You're really doing the work to find that stuff. Yeah, you're not gonna find it. You're just not gonna find it.

SPEAKER_05

And that's the importance too. I'm gonna bring it up, turning into a PSA. Just kidding. The importance of like, I think, like, physical media in general, too, because it's like in the world now where it's like, you know, it's like, well, yeah, we have so much available digitally, but it's like that can just get pulled at any time. Like it can just be lost.

SPEAKER_01

I was flipping through forever channels the other night as I was going to find, and I was literally going boom, boom, and and I got I came to a channel, I don't know what what number it's on, and it said classics on or something like that. I said, I pop it on freaking Laurel and Hardy.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, whoa.

SPEAKER_01

Laurel and Hardy shorts. And I'm like, what the heck?

SPEAKER_05

I was convinced you were gonna say Shrek or Ratley's.

SPEAKER_01

So I started traveling through the the guide to see what was coming. Little Rascals, Three Stooges.

SPEAKER_05

Was it Little Rascals or Our Gang?

SPEAKER_01

Our Gang. All that shit from the 1920s, not 20s, 1930s, these shorts, and I'm like, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

What channel is this?

SPEAKER_01

Uh I'll find it when we're done. It's like not me TV, that's something. Oh, but it's one of those.

SPEAKER_05

It's one of those like something like 5.1.

SPEAKER_01

Like it's like for me on Spectrum, it's on channel like six or something. Six point eight or something. Some odd channel. But yeah, it's I'd read about that. The me TV stuff. Like the it's well, me TV is more like the 60s sitcoms and stuff. The Hogan's Heroes and F Troop and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03

I think they're doing like a Me Cartoons now, too.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I didn't know that. Or something like that, yeah. Sometimes I'll throw it on Me TV just because those are all the sitcoms from when I was a little kid. They're so bad. They're so not funny.

SPEAKER_05

You all remember the the uh the station TV land? Of course.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Of course. Yeah. That's how you hung on to Mary Tyler Moore's show. Oh, I know. All in the family and Bolden Girls.

SPEAKER_05

Wow, this is just this this contest has turned. Nobody's gonna be. Well, I think it but I think it fits. It does, but I'm saying we're talking about it. But what I'm saying is when I was thinking about stuff I talked about, I never thought we would get in this. It's pretty much.

SPEAKER_01

I just think this is now, this is gonna be me, and then we can wrap up. This is me get off my lawn, guy, and I don't really mean it to be, but it is sort of sad to think about the fact that hundreds, thousands of movies were made, like some really great movies, that are essentially are essentially gonna be gone. I mean, you're not gonna be able to find these movies, you're not gonna be able to find them anywhere on your TV, streaming. They're gone. And that's sad. Because there's a lot of really great movies. That's right. And maybe it's also good in a sense that we could just start stealing from them and going, let's just remake that movie that nobody's ever seen. Nobody's ever seen it. Right? Oh, so that's a great movie. Let's just steal that idea.

SPEAKER_03

It's called The Little Wascals. You've never heard of it before.

SPEAKER_01

That's great. We'll have little kids acting really cute.

SPEAKER_05

And we'll throw and Mel Brooks will have a cameo in it.

SPEAKER_01

It's just, I don't know. It's it's it's sad, but it's also just the way it is.

SPEAKER_05

We're just gonna we're just gonna be mortals and we're just gonna end up at one point where there's just no movies left.

SPEAKER_06

Alright, so final thoughts?

SPEAKER_03

The final thought.

SPEAKER_06

The last thought. I'll go first. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Um I wait, what happened? Uh before before we go into final thoughts, though, because it's related. Um, did you guys see what Oprah Winfrey said about? Oh my gosh, she walked out. What did Oprah say? So she walked out of the screening ten minutes in, and um, she had an interview scheduled with Tom Cruise, and she considered canceling it because, as she said, I believe there are forces of light and darkness in the world, and I don't want to be a contributor to the force of darkness.

SPEAKER_06

That's a very Oprah Winfrey thing.

SPEAKER_03

What why though? I don't know, gay vampires. Really? I think it's because it's gory and dark and I think it's just gory and she yeah. So was she not aware of the novel? Probably not. But I at that point there'd been way worse things.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Oh, for heaven's sake. But you can't look at that movie and have that.

SPEAKER_03

Well, apparently she did. Go Oprah.

SPEAKER_06

And then she had him back again and he was jumping on his our couch.

SPEAKER_03

For as revenge. Yeah, as revenge, which is cancel my interview, will you?

SPEAKER_05

Which Yeah, okay, sorry, go ahead. Um, I mean, I don't think I have much more to say on it other than, you know, it's a movie I will see again. I I would like to see it in the theaters. I think it would just Well good luck with that. I yeah, exactly. Um, no, because I think it's just some of the best production design, costume design, set design that I've seen in a really, really, really long time. Um, I really enjoyed it. I think it elevates the movie a lot. I think it kind of takes an average movie. It just lifts it. Um it it's saved by it. I mean, it almost kinda, you know, reminds me of just something that you would see like Del Toro doing now. Oh, that would be nice. With like Frankenstein, stuff like it. It was very reminiscent of his style. Um you know, it was almost like, you know, gothic fairy tale almost. Um I think it's but I I my rating, um, it was already brought up, the object, but I think it's funny. It's gonna be um I'm I'm stuck between like a 3-5 and a four, so I think it's like a 3-7. 3-7, 3-8, uh uh found rats leading to uh The Trail of Rats. Yeah. Leading to uh Brad Pitt.

SPEAKER_06

Louis Louis I'll go next. Louis Ditto what Travis said. Great. And then I don't yeah, I think I said everything I wanted to say, so I'm just gonna do my score. Okay. I'm gonna do three out of five blue veins.

SPEAKER_05

Ew. Oh, on forehead. The blue veins.

SPEAKER_06

Did you know they had the actress hung upside down for 30 minutes? No way. To get the blood rushing to their face so then they can trace it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Dan did that on an audition. It's not cool. I sure did. For your YouTube. No, for water.

SPEAKER_05

For water bottles or something.

SPEAKER_01

Went to an audition. Did you really where they and I was not given a heads up about this, so I guess I could have said, uh no, I'm not doing that. But I'm an actor, so I'll do anything if you book me in the job. They strapped me in and turned me upside down. Fun. For what? Uh it was a commercial where we're all upside down having dinner upside down. I can't remember what the product was. How long were they upside down? Long enough to go through the spot of you know whatever line or two I had. Because obviously they're gonna cut in like 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

But even so, when every all your blood is going this way, it's a very sensational, heavy because it's just this is not the direction it's supposed to be going in. No. That's weird. That was weird. Very weird. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05

It's in someone's basement. We don't know.

SPEAKER_03

We have five blue veins. Frank, do you want to go or do you want me to go? I'll go, because I think you're you'll close it out better. I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_05

Stand for the closer.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Well, I like this movie. If you don't like this movie, I wasn't going there. I was thinking about it.

SPEAKER_05

You didn't so incorrectly. You say this every time, but we're still gonna say it.

SPEAKER_06

We're still gonna say it.

SPEAKER_01

We gotta find it. I saw that with the first episode. No, it's it's uh second one. I'm fine with something ball. We just have to find it.

SPEAKER_06

But you saw it four times.

SPEAKER_01

We're boring Frank. Go ahead, Frank. Yeah, sorry.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's not four times. Four or five times.

SPEAKER_06

What keeps bringing you Back.

SPEAKER_03

The set design. And also just um the time period of like when movies like the the time period that the movie came out in is very specific um style-wise and you know the way that movies are made. 1994. And I really miss that style of movie. So it whenever I go back, it m you know reminds me of nostalgia.

SPEAKER_06

Growing up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Cheers to that. I agree. Um like it's it's not a perfect movie by any means. It's it's definitely flawed, and I think part of that is um because of the time that it was made in, there was a lot of restraint on a lot of things. But considering how good it came out in terms of just being an enjoyable movie, I think. Um and um the fact that like the acting is pretty good. I mean, you know, on average, Brad Pitt brings it down a little bit, but Tom Cruise and Kirsten Dunst are up here. Up here. Uh yeah, right here. Yeah. And then Brad Pitt's like down here. So like the average is like. Um I I'll keep going back to the well every once in a while. Um so with that said, I'm gonna give it four. Oprah Winfrey's walking out out of five. I love that choice.

SPEAKER_06

But you will not be walking out. I'll I'll be walking out towards the TV show to continue.

SPEAKER_01

She's changed her mind about the movie and 30 years and kind of went, I probably made it. Yeah, may I think I overreacted a bit.

SPEAKER_05

We didn't bring it up too, but the scene I like too is uh Brad Pitt with the sight. Oh, yeah, that was cool. That was cool. Yeah, cut some when all the bodies are on fire. We didn't bring that up. Surprising.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we didn't.

SPEAKER_03

That was a big action scene. Because we were talking about the future of films. There weren't a lot of things.

SPEAKER_06

We actually didn't talk about the movie itself.

SPEAKER_01

We really didn't plot it out at all. No. Um, but I feel like that's okay.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I liked what we had.

SPEAKER_01

I think it was funny.

SPEAKER_05

We had things to say. Um they're gonna listen to everything. I feel like people have seen the movie.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. If they haven't, then if they haven't, they're not going to see it. I don't think we've convinced anybody to not see it. Yeah. No. Um, so echoing a lot of what I've heard, I'll try to be brief. I agree. I mean, I think the set direction of I think the art direction and the cinematography of the movie is great. If you were just ranking the movie on that, I'd get as close to a five as I could. Also, just kind of missing that whole era. Yeah. The whole that whole look and movie making is you really when you see a movie like this, which was so well done in terms of uh technically, you really do go, man, some movies looked really good. Like the really good ones looked really good back then. Um my problem with the my I I think I had a bigger problem with the characters than I had with the acting itself. Yeah. I do agree, although I didn't realize until Sam talked about Brad Pitt and that whole sort of his personal issues with what was going on. Um I don't think there was a lot of range in these characters. And I'm I'm gonna say, I'm not gonna blame Anne Rice, but she wrote the novel and she wrote the screenplay. So it's not like somebody else took her writing and turned it into screenplay. I think it was Bill Jordan that wrote it, but then he didn't get credit for it. I thought he wrote the screen. I thought she wrote the screenplay. She wrote the screenplay.

SPEAKER_06

No, I think he wrote it, but then he didn't get credit for it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, because it on the list it has her.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, so it was she was given the credit, but he wasn't, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So in that case, uh I if that's what you're saying is true, then I I'll have to retract part of what I'm saying. But I just don't think the characters had much range.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

I I I think the most interesting character is Claudia.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, and part of it is just because it's a little girl vampire who's of that bratty age and is living in a very lush and lavish life, and you know, killing her piano teacher, and you know, I mean it it was just fun. I found her just such a breath of fun. Because the movie's not really fun.

SPEAKER_05

Did you expect them to kill her off?

SPEAKER_01

I did not. I had f actually had forgotten that. And that was the other thing. I found the whole mother reuniting with the mother very, very perfunctory, very brief, and all of a sudden the next scene, I don't really care about you getting killed because I didn't really know who you even were. But yeah, I was very surprised, and I had actually forgotten that that actually happened.

SPEAKER_05

Because that was me too, a little bit. I was like, because I was like, okay, I know Brad Pitts by himself at the end, but I'm like, is she just like waiting in the car or something? Yeah, you know what I'm thinking?

SPEAKER_01

Like, where was like her, she wasn't coming back. Um so given all of that, um it took me a while to warm up to Tom Cruise. I wasn't immediately taken by his performance, but but I got I got more into him and less into Brad Pitt. Yeah. Uh but again, limited range on these characters. I just I I would have loved him to be m deeper. I don't know what. I have no real suggestions. So did Lestap. Okay, and then we're going there. Um so I will say I'm gonna score it with a 3.3. Um again, uh I really love the way it looks, but I just wish it would have I don't know. These characters just weren't very interesting to me. Um outside of her. Uh but I'm gonna go real simple. Uh wine glasses full of blood out of five.

SPEAKER_05

Um drinking yet.

SPEAKER_01

Do I want what the hell, dude? Um I'll probably never see it again. Honestly. Yeah. But you will watch the TV show. And probably when I walked out of the theater in '94, I probably thought the same thing. Yeah. I probably walked out and went, okay, I'll never see that again.

SPEAKER_06

Because it was just ninety four and then now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And oddly enough, I didn't remember much of it except the general mood of it. I as soon as it started, oh yeah, I remember this very moody, brooding, cool looking movie.

SPEAKER_03

Do you think you'll think that the next time you watch it? When we do the reunion?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. No, when you turn on uh when you turn on channel 6.7 or whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You're like on BTV. Well, this was fun. And I hope if we are gonna do Crying Game, that would be cool. That could be a fun conversation. No, that's a laughing game. Well, see you later. Okay, well. So anyway, uh so glad to be back here again for our second reunion, uh second episode uh of this, I guess, this season. Yeah, we're probably we're probably gonna just like start a new season with the hell. Let's why not? Let's just keep having fun. Um please like us, share us, subscribe. Subscribe, please subscribe, follow, all the cool stuff. Please tell me that's no. Yeah, tell the people you don't even like. Maybe that's what you do. I hate you. Listen to Strangers in the Alps. Shut up and get you back. And one more thing.

SPEAKER_03

Because I don't think we we talked about it last episode, but going forward, our schedule is changing, remember? Yes, I don't know. Once a month? Yeah, so we're going back to once a month just so that we can focus more on other things because we don't like podcasting. Well, no, no. We don't like each other that much.

SPEAKER_05

I can with the restraining order, I can only see Dan once a month.

SPEAKER_03

Once a month. That's a really strange restraining order.

SPEAKER_05

But I signed off on it right away. It's true. It's in the Alps. That's how it works in the Alps. Yeah. That is the stranger things. That is, that is the stranger. I don't know. I'm gonna say Stranger Things in the Alps. I'm like, that's not the name of our podcast.

SPEAKER_01

That's okay. So we'll see you next time. And um I'm Dan.

SPEAKER_05

Travis.

SPEAKER_06

Sam.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm Freddy. And this was Strangers in the Alps, a movie podcast. We are gay. Oh really?