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High-growth founders are leaving Dubai to build a sovereign AI stack in El Salvador.

In this episode, we chat about how the Bitcoin Standard is attracting elite builders who are abandoning fiat luxury for true proof of work. Amir Starks (@starks_arq) explains the strategic transition from the Middle East to the volcanic energy of El Zonte to secure his agency's future.

The disruption of legacy entertainment is accelerating as independent creators move to fire Hollywood with 21 million sats and generative AI. By leveraging open-source models and narrative consistency, small teams now out-compete the massive budgets of Disney. This shift represents a total liquidation of the old gatekeeper model through decentralized film production and a new content strategy for the digital age.

El Salvador is positioning itself as a future tech hub by integrating Nvidia Blackwell into its national infrastructure. This technical evolution goes beyond simple Bitcoin adoption, creating a physical base for compute-heavy industries to thrive without IMF or state-level interference. The collision of sound money and computing power is turning the country into a digital fortress for the sovereign individual.

Building a sovereign creative agency requires a radical departure from standard visual arts and fiat-based business models. Amir shares how ARQ uses Bitcoin to maintain a low time preference strategy while mastering creative direction outside the master’s house. This approach allows builders to operate beyond the censorship risks inherent in legacy platforms.

The future of storytelling allows authors to turn a book into a short film using AI for a fraction of traditional costs. As El Salvador proves the viability of the Bitcoin Standard, the rest of the world must choose between stagnation and the frontier. This conversation is the blueprint for anyone ready to stop building on rented land and join the decentralized media revolution.

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Browse through this quick guide to learn more about the episode:
00:00 Intro
01:59 Moving a tech startup from Dubai to El Salvador
06:46 How Generative AI is disrupting Hollywood studios
11:17 Building a Sovereign AI business with Bitcoin
18:19 Marketing a Sovereign Nation using AI film
25:13 Decentralized media and AI narrative consistency
37:07 Bitcoin Beach grit vs Dubai fiat luxury culture
44:41 How independent AI creators out-compete Disney
54:04 Nvidia Blackwell: El Salvador as a global AI hub
1:03:44 Turning books into movies with AI storytelling

Live From Bitcoin Beach

Amir:

What's in El Salvador? Something else in El Salvador, there is hope. There is proof that you can turn one of the most dangerous places in the planet to a place that's as safe as this place is now. And no one knows, like we know that it's actually safe. And that hope alone, that combination of by doing that the people that came here, it's not that I do not feel like low quality people are even attracted to this place. It's very It sounds it's very niche. It's as if, if you know, you know that type of place...

Mike Peterson:

Hi guys, today is going to be an interesting one. I'm kind of a guest in my studio because Amir is here with his team. They've actually been living here in Bitcoin beach at my house for the last month, and so they're letting me visit today. So it's, it's kind of funny to come in here. And, yeah, have to have to walk in through my front door. But I'm glad you guys are having, sounds like you're having an amazing time. This has been getting the creative juices flowing, being here in El Zonte, the natural beauty and all of that. So introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about your history in AI film, and then we'll talk about what's brought you guys to El Salvador. You've done some cool films already. There was one released, I think last year on on El Salvador was, I think, the first AI film I ever saw. So, so yeah, give us, give us a little bit about your background.

Amir:

Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I'm Amir. I am 23 years old, and for the past month, I've been staying in your house. It's been absolutely amazing. Like you said, creative juices flowing, and we found what we were looking for absolutely so thank you for that. An introduction. So I am the CEO and founder of ARQ, and ARQ is AI film studio, basically. And the reason we chose for the name ARQ is because it's supposed to serve as a safe haven for the soul, where AI allows anyone to create anything in a second.

Mike Peterson:

Hey guys, you know, we don't do commercials here at the Bitcoin beach podcast, because we want to keep it focused on what's happening here in El Salvador. But we have something special that we're promoting right now because we have the stay at Bitcoin beach project that's just been launched. We've always wanted to make sure that when Bitcoiners come to El Salvador, they have a truly Bitcoin through and through experience in their accommodations, in being able to stay at a place that mostly has other Bitcoiners. And so we came up with this idea, and I actually found my buddy Peter here to take the bull by the horns and then make it happen. So Peter, tell us what you got cooking for us.

Peter:

Thanks, Mike. Stay at Bitcoin beach com. This is the website and the brand that we started that it will host a growing number of Premier properties that we have, both in Punta Mango area and here in El Zonte. The first is punto mango villas, which was the original place that Mike you and I bought 16 years ago, and it's been newly remodeled, six villas that sit upon the best break, my opinion in the country, but it's stunning. The pool has been redesigned. We've got a bar on the cantina. The full restaurant. Casa guafria is a small, little cabin in the same area, and it sits right on the Agua Fria Beach, a little bit more intimate. It's great for families and they want to go out and kind of get away. And then here in elsonte, there's three properties. First, it's Cita Del Mar which Mike, you put your heart and soul into. We're sitting here now in the podcast studio that has two main houses overlooking the the break of El Zonte, beautiful infinity pool gym just got a first class place to stay, and then a new condo that just got released in the Barefoot project that's On the other side of the river, fifth story, overlooking the ocean. Again, beautiful, two bedroom and then seven suites that we're opening up called Bitcoin beach suites. That is really close to where a lot of the Bitcoin beach story started. So when you come, you can use Bitcoin to book your stay. Right on the website. You also can use it for transportation, for food, for all the services that we continue to add to to the business. So we'd love to have you please go to stay at Bitcoin beach com. You'll see pictures. You'll see all the different descriptions and information of the properties, and you can hit us up either on our webpage or on Instagram, and we'll get back to you. We'd love to have you out. Please come to stay at Bitcoin beach.

Amir:

The most important thing becomes the ID and the effort behind the ID. And we've we've seen this. We've seen there's this term called AI slob. And AI slob is something that is effortless, content that's easy to create. My take is more that we've always had slop content. We have people promoting gambling with people promoting all types of content that slop and effortless. It's not AI that does this. It's more the human behind it, right? So...

Mike Peterson:

AI maybe just makes it a little easier.

Amir:

Yes, exactly. So we created the ARQ And I mean, the story of that is interesting. I'm sure we're going to go into that more. But we, we, we always wanted to make films. My brother, my younger brother, a co founder of ARQ, he was always writing scripts from when he was 13, not me taking it seriously. I couldn't care less, to be honest. But when we saw these generation models come to life, and we saw, hey, you can make an image now, maybe it will be possible to make a video soon, and then a month or two later, a five second clip was possible.

Mike Peterson:

So when just, just to give people a little history, what kind of timeline are we talking five years ago? that come along.

Amir:

I think I'm now 23 I think three and a half years ago, chatgpt came out, and that's the moment where I was like, Whoa, technical revolution. It felt like, Okay, this is the new internet wave that we had in, like, the 2000s we're gonna have now, again, now for my generation. And I always wanted to just be part of something like that, right? I never really wanted to go into E commerce or these, these, what I saw as small, like hypes. I wanted to really be part of a new technical revolution. So I remember calling my dad. I was like, Look at this. And I show him chat GPT, and he's like, Oh, you're onto something. Here was super awkward, still, but it but it worked. And from that moment, I stopped with school. I moved from Holland to Morocco, and there's a beautiful moment where I was like, a dad,

Mike Peterson:

so did you grow up in Holland?

Amir:

Yeah, born and raised and but my weird family is

Mike Peterson:

from Morocco, absolutely.

Amir:

And then I just told my father, like, Hey, I'm earning like, $500 a month now. I don't really know why I'm here. I'm gonna leave. And he was like, Okay, well, great, but take your brother with you, and he was 16 at the time, and we did that super beautiful adventure, basically, and that's where it started. So we left, and my brother really grew up with these tools I was 20, but he was like, 16 years old, and he doesn't know anything else than chatgpt and stuff like that. And then the first image generation models came out, and then the first video generation model came out. It was really bad quality, but we could see that it was going there. And then we just made the decision to go all in on learning about those tools, on translating his scripts that he had already like, his passion projects, and turn them into short, 20, 30/42, things and see what would happen. And I think that went that went on for around, like a year, that was still really bad, and you couldn't, like, sell this. It was just nothing to do. And then the first video model came out that allows you to turn any image into a five second video, compared to now, still super bad quality, but you could now officially stitch together five seconds, five seconds until you had something of a minute. And that's when we just started to do that every day. We tried to push out a minute video, and our our thesis was, if we do one video a day for a year. It's going to be fine either way, right? Because this is compounding. We learn, and something's going to happen is going to be fine. And that's actually what we did. And then I think six months later, we were like, Okay, we have to found, like, an actual company, because we saw the rise of AI slope, and we saw the rise of the AI haters, and we're like, okay, there's a beautiful opportunity for us to make a sense. And that's what we did. Founded the ARQ and,

Mike Peterson:

when was that, that you founded the company?

Amir:

Six months, six months ago?

Mike Peterson:

Oh, just six months ago.

Amir:

Yeah. Really, this is so fresh.

Mike Peterson:

Wow.

Amir:

And. It was a year ago that we were actually doing like one

Mike Peterson:

when, when was it that you guys did the release the El Salvador video? That was more than six months ago, right?

Amir:

No, no, we released the El Salvador video in the 12 December.

Mike Peterson:

Really, okay? I thought it was, I'm getting old my time. I mean, my timeline blends together,

Amir:

but for me it feels like months too.

Mike Peterson:

So that was just a few months into the company.

Amir:

Yeah, we were we our strategy was the following. We had zero following on social media. We kind of realized, okay, we need personal brands. The biggest CEOs in the world started to create Instagram accounts. So a personal brand is obviously necessary. So we started this. If you look at my Twitter, you will see it's a six months old account, also zero followers. And we were like, Okay, how do we, how are, how will we make sure that we can charge for this video? No one knows us. How do you do that? So we just picked, like, the high, most hyped tech startup at the moment, with the most like social media presence. It was, clearly, they just raised like$15 million and it was what, clearly was it called Yeah, most hyped small tech startup in San Francisco that did really well. And we were like, Do you know what? Let's make an AI commercial for them.

Mike Peterson:

And with that, without them knowing,

Amir:

just, just for free, just Yeah, and then in the hopes that they retweeted on Twitter, so that we get this kickstart of followers and somehow authority, so we can charge, because if we can charge like $500 for a video, we do that four times a month, and we can keep this company alive until we become actual filmmakers. And we did that, and in 24 hours, we made a video, we put it live, we woke up to 250,000 views, and 1000 followers gained, and the entire company retweeted us, and that's where we closed our immediately, our first deal. And we're like, Okay, this isn't working. You know, for us, was just fun, yeah. And then we did second commercial, third commercial, fourth commercial, fifth commercial, until we got invited to the Royal

Mike Peterson:

and were these commercials you were still just doing on your own, or were these ones where now actually people were coming to you and contracting you

Amir:

after clearly, we started to get paid, and

Mike Peterson:

that's pretty impressive. After one, obviously, there was a lot that went into it before that, but that that gave you that?

Amir:

Yeah, absolutely, I kind of try to sell it also in terms of like to the communities, like it is possible in just one video, yeah, you kind of have to make like a smart move. Is it lucky? I mean, I just understood the market at the moment, but it's always kind of possible. And then you the only luck is them appreciating it. Yeah, right. And then we got invited to the Royal Opera House, the first AI Film Festival in India, in Mumbai, there was very like, Lucky. And the guy saw, like, a video that we did, and they were like, Hey, we fly you out. And there's this contest of like, 1010, teams or whatever. And that's where we were able to finally make an own film. So not a commercial, not tight Tool Company, but something that we wrote from scratch, and seeing that on the big screen in the Royal Opera House and the responses of the people, that's when we were like, Okay, we want to stop doing commercials, actually.

Mike Peterson:

And was this one of your brother's scripts that he had Yeah, done before, yeah,

Amir:

this was one of his IDs that was born, like, seven years ago, or something like that, that he was, like, he just grabbed it out of the fault because, I mean, necessary. And we made the video in 12 hours from a hotel room in Mumbai. And it was amazing. And that is November, right? And if you compare like that video to the videos that we can make today, the technology is doing it's doing that. It's going so fast. It's like what was possible now wasn't possible two weeks ago. And then you can track that down two weeks and two weeks. It's every it's

Mike Peterson:

gotta be so hard to keep up with almost you're trying to do your own project, but you're trying to keep up with all the advances.

Amir:

And it's actually come to a point where sometimes you work on a project for a week and you have to redo the entire project because the model that came out makes everything that you did bad, right? So this is the the space that we're in, and then in Roy Opera House, we obviously did it like in 12 hours. And then we came back, we were located in Dubai at the moment, and we came back from Mumbai to Dubai, and we were like, Oh, we got to go out there. We need to meet more people. What we did in Mumbai was so efficient. We made films, we met people. We actually leverage our character and our story. And in Dubai, we're not meeting anyone. We're here

Mike Peterson:

really not anyone. So Mumbai had a much more thriving, yeah, in the AI space than I would think Dubai, there would be a lot of people there.

Amir:

And so. It's not you would think so too, and I believe that maybe there are, but I feel like we were just grinding 16 hours a day from the apartment and leaving the house. You do this is so flashy. It's not really people actually grinding it out. And the people very

Mike Peterson:

sterile environment there in Dubai, yeah, everything very clean, very organized, very

Amir:

Everything that you need, except sometimes what you actually need, it doesn't have that grit. Yeah, so that's when the El Salvador story came in play. Me and my brother literally spent six days walking around the house being like, what are we going to do? Are we going to keep making AI commercials, and then other people are going to make AI films, and they are going to be aI filmmakers, and we, because we were too scared to get out of this commercial loop, what are we going to do? Where the What was hard about this situation is you're one of the first so there's no one that laid down a road for you to welcome. You're quite literally writing history with every video that you are making, because wasn't done before, and we really weirdly felt that weight on our shoulders. It was like, Oh, what are we going to do? Because we knew that we could do way more crazy things than we were doing. And then we made the list, where can we be the first in? Okay, we can be the first in a 60 minute production, but it's too expensive, and the tech is a little bit too like, not, not good enough for 60 minute production. So let's, let's wait with that. What else? And we made a list and a list. And then we had, like, Okay, the first AI short film for a nation came on, and we looked at each other, we were like, Okay, that is awesome. What nation? And I am on Twitter, and I see the president getting these b3 100 Blackwell in video AI chips, first sovereign country to get them right. And I walked to my brother, I'm like, Come on, man, this is too good of a sign. And we literally book a ticket and fly the next day, really? Yeah, we fly the next day. We were like, We don't know. That's not a short flight. And we were like, we don't need to know anyone. We're just gonna tweet. We're gonna go to El Salvador make the first AI short film for a nation. Anyone wants to meet us there, please reach out, because we can use any help we get. And we arrive, we sleep Intercontinental Hotel in San Salvador. And do you know murph's life? Yeah, yeah, amazing guy. And we tagged him in the post, and some other people that we were like, Okay, if those people reach out, we kind of have a first boost where it's like, okay, it's worth it to do this. And we wake up and I have a DM from him, and he's like, hey, I can today, but I would love to meet, but today is to pack them at an AI conference. And, like, AI conference, I mean, I want to go to the AI conference. Where's the AI conference? He's like, Ah, well, I don't know if you know the hotel's Intercontinental Hotel. And I'm like, Intercontinental Hotel. And I look around and I see, like, the cars, what we're in that and then there we saw, okay, things are also coming our way, so we might have made the right decision. And we go down with the elevator. There he is. Then we meet him. He shows us around the country for two or three days, and we had an amazing time to

Mike Peterson:

go out to his property where they're held in the hotel,

Amir:

absolutely beautiful. Wow. And what an inspiring story, also, right? And, yeah, that's where started. Rural people started to understand that we were here. So we started to get more people reach out. And we spent two weeks learning about the country and the story and translating that into a film. And after two or three days, we started to realize what an emotional story it is, a country going from such a dangerous place to having something that should be normal, peace, safety. And then how do you translate that from how do you translate that into an eight minute short film where the people are not real that you're gonna generate, but the people creating it are 100% real, right? I mean, it's so

Mike Peterson:

so let's Paco, can you? Can you pull that up and we'll play a clip of it, because I'm curious as to, like, did you need to be in El Salvador to do this, since it's AI, I'm assuming you don't, but you tell me what the process is. Yeah, I

Amir:

think it would have been a little bit disrespectful if we didn't come here. And yeah, it's like, it was proving the point of a lot of the AI haters. It's like, you, actually don't want to put effort in. You want to tell the story of a nation. You do not, do not even go there, okay, you do not take the entire crew and do it with your little computer, but you do not go there. And that's really we wanted to have respect for the craft also, because I believe it was going to be, it was going to be a bad film if we did it from Dubai, from Dubai with our Taliban. Orders that with our cheesecakes that we can order in a second, and then making such a film with so much weight.

Mike Peterson:

Yeah, can we? Can we roll that Paco?

Unknown:

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Mike Peterson:

All of this is AI generated. None of that's real,

Amir:

like, real shots in there

Mike Peterson:

and, and you just tell the AI what you want, you want to show, like, MS gang members on the street sitting, like, like, how much work goes in the like this.

Amir:

And I think, very useful for people also to know, yeah, this is why, on our website, the main thing is, AI is going to replace everyone except humans. And it's really true. So how does this work? The number one thing, and the only thing that, no matter when or how much AI progresses, AI won't be able to replicate is the ID. AI will just not be able to write the script. It is obviously able to write a script, but not with the way my brother does it. Yeah, or

Mike Peterson:

you don't think AI will ever be able to replace that human creativity at that level, never,

Amir:

because how my brother always says this beautifully. He says like, how much electricity your brain runs on and how much electricity is needed to get that AI running. They're there. They're not figuring, yeah, the craft of God out there, mimicking God to a certain extent, but you can't. You can only get so far right. But it's the idea that the number one thing that's going to it's the mode. Now, anyone that can come up with good ideas is 100% safe, and it's actually like, arguably the only thing humans should be doing anyway. No one should be packing packages and doing this automation work. People should come up with ideas and way to inspire each other, tell stories, etc.

Mike Peterson:

So that's very interesting to me, because my thinking about AI was it was going to replace a lot. It was going to replace the writers, the authors, the creatives. And to me, that was really sad. But you think it's actually going to be the opposite,

Amir:

the opposite, it's going to allow a lot of people like us that had zero resources, zero opportunity to get into Hollywood, also who wants to get into Hollywood, to make movies that compete with the quality of Hollywood. Because you can, you can, you can have such a good story to tell, but if it's packaged in a way that's just ugly. It's very hard for people to consume. It's hard for me to watch a YouTube video with bad audio, because it's just very hard to go through. Doesn't matter what's being said. So you need a mic, right? And who has money for this stuff? And with AI, we get the opportunity to make things with very low cost, and all of our effort and human creativity in there. And I feel like with El Salvador, this what we did. It's like we we had a really, it was a rough trip. No halal food. That means we had to live on pupusas for two weeks. We really, like almost didn't sleep. We traveled around. We tried to really feel the entire country. We put effort in it. 29 hour flight. 29 hour flight back, you know, leaving your your very cozy apartment in Dubai behind. And then, yeah, step one, the ID generation. And then, yes, there comes to me with first script, and I read it, and we were sitting around the table, I'm like, no, no, this is not it. This is not what Jose faljesus told us yesterday. This is not the guys coming onto the street and knocking on the window with the gun and ask you to give the money, right? This is we have to emphasize more on the problem before we show people the solution. The script was very fast going from problem solution, well, you need problem, problem problem to show people, oh, it was bad, and then salvation, right? So that was a fun process. I think we did five versions of the script until we had a version where it's like, Oh, nice. And then it's, you start, so

Mike Peterson:

you do so you you make sure you're good with the script before you start doing any AI generation,

Amir:

such anything, before the script is done. And then, and then you have, like, the actual narration script, the thing that you hear. Around the background the narration, the guy that talks and visual script. So the narration script is the actual words that he says. The visual script is the shots that you will see based on the things that he says. So in once

Mike Peterson:

and these are all human creations. You guys are not using AI to produce this aspect, though.

Amir:

We really come up with it ourselves. So example is living side by side with contradiction. That's one line. That's not a visual script. That's the actual line. The visual script was showing the 666, tattoo, and then cutting to crash, zoom in of Jesus Christ. Unlike the statue living side by side with contradictions. So it's like it's an art where we actually grab the narration script and try to turn it into something that makes sense when you're watching it, because you can say side by side with contradictions, and then just show a road with someone driving on it, something that absolutely doesn't make any sense what AI would have done, right if you just try to automate it in any way. So that's step one and two. And then you go into the generation process. And AI is like this, if you want to maintain consistency over your scenes, you cannot use text to video models, text to video models, you can say, generate me a man walking on the street, and you can run it 10 times and 10 times, you will get a different video. Well, if you generate first an image and then you use image to video, you can maintain consistency in your scene. So what we do is we build an entire storyboard with images, and then we turn those images into videos separately. So it's all five second clips, 10 second clips, five second clips, stitched together. Okay, and that's very easy, explained. The process ID, visual script, image generation, video generation, and then editing is also something that happens.

Mike Peterson:

And is this something that you guys learn just by like trial and Eric, I'm assuming this is so new, you're actually having to invent the craft as you're going along.

Amir:

Yeah. And I think one of the most important things is AI is trained on actual knowledge. AI is not trained on your opinion or your context, or the way you feel. AI is trained on 180 degrees orbit, angle that the terminology is not it's not trained on, yeah, can you please move the camera a little bit like this? Ai, then it's not gonna listen. It wants it performs best if you talk to it with the terminology of the craft. So for us, that was a slap in our face. We were like, Okay, well, we have to go back to the books and actually read about lightning, composition, angles, camera movements and shadows and all these things. And when we and then it's just trial and error. What do you say? What do you get back? Input, output, input, output, and the higher quality or input, the higher quality or output. And along the way, you actually learn this terminology, and you actually figure out how to do it. I feel like

Mike Peterson:

I'm assuming when you first started, it would take just, say, 50 different prompts or trying to be finally get it, but then you get to the point where it just takes a couple because you kind of,

Amir:

okay, absolutely, that's exactly how it went. Obviously, the models get better, yeah, but we also get better. So it's kind of a combination of two entities moving forward, and that's really, yeah, it and then,

Mike Peterson:

And within your team, do you guys have different specialties? Or, how does that? How did the team come together? And how, how do you guys? Yeah, make that now they turn into a film.

Amir:

Now that we're making, like, a little bit of more, more money, we're searching for more experts in certain fields, because we are self taught, 01, you guys are so young, yes, right? So it's like, it's for us now, really the point where we try to reach out to traditional filmmakers and then learn from the actual OGS, but our team is very funny.

Mike Peterson:

It's why I love how I love how young you guys are, and you just did it, yeah? Like most people be have all these reasons why it wouldn't work, but you guys

Amir:

just weirdest, right? Yeah, and, well, it's funny, because it's always, Oh, you were so brave or whatever. And for me, if I have to be completely honest, I don't know, for me, it was very logical, hey, we have this technical revolution going on that means that it will be very easy to make like very it's not even about the money, but have big impact, because where friction happens within that friction, that energy, you can always gain something buying Bitcoin and $1 right? No one does it. So this friction of the unknown. The known, like, it pays off, yeah. And then I felt that really, really heavy, and I was like, Okay, now one plus one is two. Let's stop with school. Why would it be in school? Let's go all in AI, and it's going to be fine. And that there wasn't really that. I felt like there was any courage involved. Obviously there was, but it was so logical that it was just jumping in, right? So the team is a really do it yourself team, a DIY team. It's actually all people we grew up with. It's obviously me that kind of made these very big swings and risks when I was when I was younger. But eventually everyone kind of did. It's my brother and then our main generator, the guy that knows the models. He breeds the models. It's as V is talking to to a friend when he's talking to the model. So he's the guy that, when we have an idea, we send it to him, and he could, within six hours, give us, like a video back if he wants to. And then we have more of an operator that makes sure that everything flows, and that is like, actually a group of four, like a wolf pack that's responsible for the creative side of things. And we also have, like, some developers that we hired a few months ago because we wanted to develop our in house tools, because nothing out there was really satisfying our needs as creators. And it clicked for me. I was like, Okay, let's create tools that we need, and then probably we will attract other users along the way. And that worked out completely fine. So we have developers. Those are not here. Those are remote and amazing guys too. But our creative team is like group of four very young guys at 2424 23 and 20 my brother and literally figuring things out as we go. Yeah, no, no formula. It's just going.

Mike Peterson:

So you guys released the film on El Salvador. It was received very well. I remember seeing it and being like, wow, that's, that's, that's nice, amazing. What happened between then and when you guys came, because you left El Salvador after

Amir:

we went back to Dubai, yeah, and I got into a huge dip that I didn't understand. I understood why it's Mumbai, El Salvador, and now you're back in Dubai. What's going to top that? What's going to be because you're kind of getting addicted to the first off being something. And a mentor of mine was like, he kind of warned me for this months and months before that. He was like, sit down and execute, execute, execute. Do not try to chase too much these highs. And he was right, 100% however, El Salvador was 100% necessary to do was like some the ROI there, and also the reach you can't get that anywhere else, was once in a lifetime opportunity, but I did have this dip, and I didn't know what to do with it.

Mike Peterson:

We were back in Dubai during this time,

Amir:

And like, huge dip, like, just emotional dip, where it was like, oh, and now commercial, but money has to come in. You have to pay the bills, so you have to make commercial for like, $7,000 or $10,000 that for a company that doesn't deserve your attention. And it's not about the company. It's not, oh, we are so good that company doesn't deserve the attention. It's really that our like our ideas, deserve our attention, not the ideas of someone else. There's other commercial companies for that. It's not us that are supposed to do that. So, yeah, it was, it was, it was weird. And I'm very like, a religious man, and I prayed a lot, and I was fasted, and I tried to pray and fast more, and I was like, I don't know what to do with this. And then I made a list of things that I want to achieve. I made a list of things that I had to, like, figure out with myself, like bad habits that I wanted to get rid of. I felt like there was a door being held close before I could move on. I had to clean everything up in the room. So I did that. And it's very simple, things like, Do not order too much food. I there was very bad habit of mine. I ordered so much food I threw away every day. And the day I write this thing, these things down. I put the notes down, I pin it, and I'm like, Okay, nice. I sleep. I wake up next morning. We get a first deal. First, like, movie deal, first, first deal that was interesting enough for us to look at. Where we're like, okay, because you

Mike Peterson:

had had commercial, like you'd done commercials that

Amir:

was such high demand, but like, doing that was only gonna bring us down. This was really something that was like, okay, cool, yeah, this was something else was different, working together with traditional artists for the first time, and literally from that moment, I post our Mumbai video again onto. Twitter, I don't know, I felt this urge to do that, and I posted again, and from that old film, not something new that we posted again, we got so much people reach out to us, so weird. And we we had Plan B here in El Salvador that was coming up, and it was aligning that we were coming back, that we were feeling that we were like

Mike Peterson:

you already had it in your mind that maybe we should go back to El Salvador.

Amir:

Yeah. And now we actually have people to meet there last time we came blank. And now we are coming and to actually meet people, okay? And momentum started to build up. Momentum started to build up. And then we flew back Plan B, met with the tether team, and

Mike Peterson:

Was that here in El Salvador? okay,

Amir:

Rumble, Saifedean Ammous, the writer of the Bitcoin standard, gold standard, and Stacy and William of the actual Congress, and that was so sick. There was one week where it felt like everything was aligning perfectly. And I just never went back to Dubai, really. Yeah, I thought

Mike Peterson:

that was you came here on a temporary trip

Amir:

just to come for a week to meet and set up like and you never left. We never left. I called the moving company. We emptied the entire apartment, and we moved the company here because that it made too much sense. Then it was like, Okay, what do we want? We want to actually make AI films. Okay, now we have the network. We actually have the network now to be the first to make actual AI films. We feel like this is our responsibility to do so because we are fighting slob are

Mike Peterson:

so so I think, and I don't want to distract you, but I just want to circle back on one point, because I think a lot of people will be kind of blown away by this, but it sounds like you're saying you felt like there was more potential for network and contacts in El Salvador than in Dubai 100 which most people, I think, would think the opposite.

Amir:

Yeah, this is, this is cool title, also, because this is what you hear, right? People moving to Dubai. I mean, I've been living I lived in Dubai. I've been going back and forth out of Dubai for two years. I lived in Dubai for six months straight. Do I have anything bad to say about Dubai? No. Is it safe? Yes. Is it supporting me? Is it? Is it, is it pushing me to become a better businessman? Absolutely not. It is supporting me to become a better husband. I mean, it's nice to go out with my wife and eat something out good space, yeah, but that's it. It's like nice to walk around the Burj Khalifa with my father and talk about how impressive it is that they turned it from a desert into that conversation. But no, no, what's in El Salvador? Something else in El Salvador. There is hope. There is proof that you can turn one of the most dangerous places in the planet to a place that's as safe as this place is now. And no one knows like we know that it's actually safe, and that hope alone, that combination of and what by doing that the people that came here, it's not that, I do not feel like low quality people are even attracted to this place. It's very It sounds it's very niche. It's as if, if you know, you know that type of place

Mike Peterson:

well, and it because it's not easy, yeah, like, there's still a rough edge to it, yeah, you have to be somebody with some grit.

Amir:

Yeah, you have to see the vision and say, Okay, we're going to exchange, like, some things in return for being here this early on. And I have, I've not, like, I've been to, like, now, like, obviously young, but I did travel, like, see a good portion of the earth and the people that I've met here, the five and the actual speed of execution that you can sit on Monday have a conversation and be executing the idea of that conversation on Wednesday, while I've been in contact with The Government of Dubai and about like, education, etc, emails, is six weeks going back and forth, and you do not even have anything so and here it was like I arrived. No one even knew me, and I was in the room with Mario and Stacy A week later, right where you're actually having a conversation about, what are you going to execute? What are we going to do? Right? What do you need from us to do what you want to do you? And this attitude, this is next level, and then you are attracting people like us. You're actually saying, Hey, we are going to provide you with personal attention. We believe that you are high quality person. You have something to add to the content. Three here is just our number. If you need anything, reach out that alone is already customer service on a level where I would like to say, okay, then I will pick this place over that place, right? I didn't go back to pack my stuff out of Dubai, so that says enough already, right? I just didn't want to go back. I was like, 29 hours. Let's just stay and let's just spend here. Now we've been here for a month, a full month, and we've never been this creative. We've never felt this free. We are enjoying the people a lot. We do not really leave the house, but obviously we have people coming in and out the house constantly, and I do not really see why leaving is even on the table, right?

Mike Peterson:

So that's and do the the other partners, the rest of the team, do they feel similar, people are homesick, or is it, I know it's, you

Amir:

know, yeah, I mean, it's when you're when you're for me, I'm very used to not seeing my parents for eight months, right? So if you, if you leave that out of the equation, these people are absolutely amazed, yeah, by the fact that this country is the way it is, but also that we are now, like, working on a video, and I'm like, have a podcast with Mike Peterson. And here the convenience of it, the flow where else, and that's that's that we do notice. And we're linking this success in this very interesting times that we're in right now, also to the country now. So for us, in five years, El Salvador is going to be this nostalgia that's going to have this this vibe over it. And I feel like it's very good position too. We need some equipment that's not available here. We fly to Miami two hours and two hour back, and you could do it in one day, in theory, right?

Mike Peterson:

Yeah, very easy. And there's some some some convenience to being on the same time zone as the US. It's 100 business

Amir:

wise, it's 100% better. So there is, there it is. It is beautiful. And I do also feel like that as a businessman. There is an opportunity to just work on your business, and along the way, without any pressure, figure out some sort of a offer or solution for the country. And then you end up working with the country and actually help rebuild this place, or like for us, for example, it's like teaching people how to generate films with AI. It is valuable, especially for kids that schools nothing, not really. For them, they don't really like it, and they have a story to tell. I mean, these kids have stories to tell. You give them these tools. You teach them how to do it. They can all make five to$10,000 a month. They can all do that. Yeah. I mean, we did it. We made one film and, like, two minutes video in 24 hours, and we charged 5k after that, like standard rate. So, like it is possible, so you can figure out how to package this education for the people from El Salvador. And it is without pressure. You are doing these things. You are building education material, and then you figure out a way to pass that on to the country and actually help, like, be part of this place. I mean, this is for me. It's a no brainer, literally.

Mike Peterson:

So as you guys look at the future of your company, like, what are you focused on? What is your market, if there's people even watching this, that that have an idea, what are the type of like projects that you guys are willing to take on, or are you only doing your own films at this point? Or explain to me how the business model works?

Amir:

I think now we are. I think we want to be like a new generation Disney or something like that. It's like a studio that has its own in house technology has his own in house creators, his own in house workflows and IPS characters that we came up with really a Tony Stark right?

Mike Peterson:

So you see there being that, like in a future of that there will still be a role for characters.

Amir:

100%, it's gonna, I think world building is gonna be one of the biggest things in the future, because there's gonna be so much room to spend time on world building. Because, I mean, I don't

Mike Peterson:

know, explain to me what you mean by world building?

Amir:

I mean, the best example is you've seen the trilogy avatar, the with the blue, blue aliens. Uh huh. It is the, I think, the only trilogy that did a billion dollars gross every, every movie, one, two and three. And then you ask why? It's because of world building. It's because James. Cameron created an entire world that goes so deep language fruit, way of speaking, way of like that. When people watch it, they forget that they are on earth. Is Lord of the Rings. Is the same Harry Potter. When everyone can generate anything, the biggest thing becomes the world that you build behind it. So there's going to be so much time, because the rest of the process is very easy, or not easy, but easier than traditional filmmaking to build worlds, to spend time for a director to sit down and create a language from scratch, because that's what they did with Lord of the Rings, right? They created an actual alphabet and an actual language. It is what attracts people. It is what, what the effort behind it, right? So for us, it's, it's, we are going all into world building, and then how we make money is, obviously, by creating a fan base of people that want to watch our creations. And what we stand for is create films that our children can watch. I do not feel like there's too much content being created at the moment by Hollywood, Disney, Pixar, or anyone of content that I would feel comfortable with letting my little sister watch or my kids. So I would love to do that. I would love to make content for the intellectual people, the people that want to watch something and actually watch it, finish it, and then sit down with their wife or the entire family and have a conversation about what they just watched. Give give families some some food to talk about, some nurturing the brain. That's the type of content that we want to make. And if we I don't mind partnering up with companies, as long as the companies. I mean, we did a music video for tether UCT, and the Ask was there for

Mike Peterson:

like, hey, they played that at the conference, right?

Amir:

No, it was after we released it a few, a few days ago. The question here was, hey, we're this huge company. We're humans. We are actually trying to do good. The entire reason for our company is to try to do good. But because there's so much money behind the company, people just hear the money and they're like, must be evil people, right? So how do we make this company human? We were like, I mean, that's that's what we are for. So we sat down, we wrote an entire song, and we produced it completely from scratch, and we made this, and you release it, and you see the responses of people, people actually getting shivers and feeling something this I'm 100% willing to keep doing, as long as the company that we work with or the people that we work with have a story to tell, right? But for me, the most attention is going to go to actual films, 60 Minutes, like 90 minutes,

Mike Peterson:

actual and and monetization of that will be, do you see this is like going forward Netflix and those things, they'll actually, they'll be buying these films. These will replace a lot of the traditional films of what people are consuming.

Amir:

Yeah, I think if the quality is high enough, no one's gonna care to this AI anymore. Yeah, it's really in this transition period where people are gonna be like, there were people, can you imagine that said no, who was gonna use a phone? Who's gonna do online shopping?

Mike Peterson:

I remember thinking, why would you want a camera on your phone? I remember thinking that stupidest thing ever, and now it's like,

Amir:

it's the normal thing ever. And same with online shopping. It was a huge group of people that said, online shopping. Why would I give my credit card to this computer thingy? And now no one ever even goes to shops anymore. So it's this transition period where people want to have an opinion about, oh, AI was just like CGI. CGI came. I'll replace someone. Okay, fine. That happens. It's technical revolution. But do people now have a complete new category in at the Oscars for CGI films, or is it just part of the creation process? Yes, it's part of the creation process. So maybe there is going to be an separate like section for fully AI generated films, but I am 100% sure that in five years, there's going to be films where it's 50% AI, no one's going to even be able to tell Yeah, no one's going to be able to tell, 80% AI, you won't be able to tell. We're going to get to a point where 100% AI, you won't be able to tell. And then it it's again, reset the levels, and it comes back to taste. But people just want to watch something good, if it's AI or not AI. Just you want to watch something good. You want to spend your money on something that is worth your time, and if that is with AI or without AI,

Mike Peterson:

do you think there will still be a huge premium on the creative aspect of it, but maybe the actors and actresses and that part goes away over time,

Amir:

yeah, but also maybe even do. This is very hard to predict, but there's also a future where maybe actors become more valuable because they become so scarce. And one thing is for sure, is human labor. The human is that value is going to skyrocket, like someone that actually knows how to play violin in 100 years. So now it's okay, but like, in 100 years, it's like, oh, you still know how to play violin. So I do feel like the human is going to become more valuable while the robot learns how to do most of the things the human can do. So the like you have the you have this guy, very famous guy on Tiktok. He works at Papa John's. He makes pizzas. You could say there's gonna be a robot that's gonna make that pizza one day, but the way this guy makes the pizza, how he flips it, and how he builds his brand around, like the way he screams while he's flipping the pizza, it's the human and that that that part of creativity that's going to be so valuable. So I don't know, like, if actors are completely going to be replaced. What I do know is that it's a headache to work with people overall. And someone said this very, very smart, smart man, I don't remember who, but he said, like, when you do season one, and season one is a big success, then that same actor that you got for X amount of money comes and now is, I want more, because it was a success, right? This is very hard to deal with, very hard to deal with, because the movie becomes less profitable over time, because everyone's value grows, but you as a director, apparently do not grow for value. With AI is different. You own the character. You quite literally say, You prompt it, and it does whatever you want. Has no soul. You can tell it to shut up and shut up. Like, yeah, this Yeah. So I do feel like there's going to be some slightly autistic, like directors that really do not feel like working with people too much, that are going to take this to their full advantage. They're going

Mike Peterson:

to be Yeah, because they can implement exact vision and their dream and not have to deal with the drama of anything. Yeah.

Amir:

So I feel like there's going to be very interesting new types of people also that couldn't really exist before that couldn't shine is maybe a better way to put it, and are now going to shine, yeah, because they do not have to deal with people anymore. So it's interesting. I try to predict only very small things, like aI film is going to be a category. That's something that a year ago, I made that like logical connecting the dots type of thing. And if actors actually going to be valuable, I know that humans are going to be valuable. How actors are going to play in it. I mean, the actors that are well established now are going to be like a very rare Pokemon card, right? It's not going to be made anymore like that. It's just going to be different. I mean, I'm an actor. I act. We have this feature that's called motion control. You feel me, and I actually perform the scene, and we motion control it so that I can put like a bunny or whatever, that does exactly the movements and the lip sync that I do, right? That's acting. I mean, that's what they did with the Avatar the dots and the that's motion control the traditional way. So you're going to have a lot of those type of actors that have way less anxiety because they know that's not even their face. It's going to be on there. You just put another face on there, so they are going to be more expressive and insecure people that are going to have a chance to shine too. So for me, it's like complete positive future, to be honest, this is the Soviet future I do not see. I see that that's what the Movies Taught us, how they tried to shape it. But I think is going to be awesome, actually.

Mike Peterson:

So I'm, I'm curious for you guys, and I don't know if it plays much of a role at all for you guys or not, but you know, we're here in El Salvador. Obviously it's, it's Bitcoin country. I know you guys are familiar with Bitcoin because you, you paid me in Bitcoin, and I know that was a lot easier for you, because Vermont and said the place you were renting before didn't want to be paid in Bitcoin, and it was a big hassle. So so I'm just curious as to your take on on Bitcoin, where that comes in, and how that is synergistic with with AI, and then what you see in El Salvador, the fact that they've adopted Bitcoin, how that plays into the story here?

Amir:

Well, I think personally, that the philosophy behind bitcoin is what attracted me to crypto. Like, very early on, and I think in 2000 like, for me early 20 or something, like, where. So Young, and I was like, this makes so much sense freedom, being able to transfer something without having to check it with a third party and stuff like that. Perfect. I feel like there's a lot of people making trying to take advantage of this in the I mean, the crypto space is quite weird. I feel like, I feel like, the only like token that's like, standing like, it's like, Bitcoin is Bitcoin, right? I feel like where it comes to play is, overall, just blockchain, the ownership of blockchain. I feel like, especially now that AI is able to, you can copy whatever I create in a second. When I when I created this beautiful character. I prompted it, or whatever, and it's really an ID that came to life. You can copy, paste it, slightly adjust it, and you own it. I feel like that's where the blockchain comes in play, where you can actually, like, find a new way to own your videos or creations in terms of the payment things, and the financial side of things, I feel like, slowly but surely, it's getting adopted by a lot of people. I mean, you see the five in El Salvador, you see how how easy it is, and that it was 100% the right choice for the country to do this, and a good risk, I guess, as a government to adopt it for me, as AI filmmaker or filmmaker, I didn't come across a day to day use case yet, where, besides paying for the house and paying salaries or whatever.

Mike Peterson:

What about when you guys get paid from from people? Is that,

Amir:

for example, yes, right? This is very easy to get paid in Bitcoin, and then we do get paid actually in Bitcoin or in usdt, or whatever. It's like, mostly crypto, actually, invoices is outdated. No one really does that anymore.

Mike Peterson:

So in that, especially you guys are kind of moving all around. It's yeah, best. You don't have to worry if you have a bank account someplace or

Amir:

whatever it's, being able to move around and take it with you everywhere you go. It's the best. So in terms of that, I am a daily user constantly. If it would be taken away from me today, like I would have, I would have to change the entire company structure, basically, but I do feel like there's a very big technical use case too that makes a lot of sense that has to be explored, or is being explored as we speak, and we have to See how that plays out overall, I think marketing wise and strategic. Wise El Salvador did a really great job at doing this. At the end of the day, building a company is also just like building building countries also just like building a company, right? You have to market, yeah, and I think it attracted the exact right people by doing adopting Bitcoin in the way that, I mean people like you is perfect, and I'm interested to see how that plays out in the coming years.

Mike Peterson:

One you're seeing, I mean, like your company, like bringing in here, like you see so many unique individuals that are Ron and El Salvador that you know, it's not because they have the best infrastructure or, you know, the best education system, but they have this openness to new ideas and this embrace of future things of the future. So it makes people feel like this is a place that's not living in the past, yeah, but we're moving,

Amir:

and that's the that's, that's, that's what, what attracted us in the perfect in one sentence, country that thinks about the future. And they did this with Bitcoin. They showed this with the invidia beat 300 Black World chips. They showed this with the x ai partnership for the education and here on seems like on every aspect, they are doing something that is putting trust into what just wanting to be here so you're safe.

Mike Peterson:

Yeah. So is there anything else that we that we forgot the cover. I want to end with you being able to talk more about your company, and if potential people that would want to be involved or bring projects to you, or that kind of stuff. But is there anything else that I think we covered? Yeah, we did for this was fascinating for me, because this is amazing an area that I knew very little about, and I feel now like I have a, you know, obviously not the nitty gritty, but like at a high level, I feel like I have a grasp of where things are going. And I love the fact that you think it's going to actually help the creators, like the creative mind, because I, I would hate to see that lot like, that's something very human, the ability to be creative. Of and you see

Amir:

it with us. I think we're the it's not really just talk. It's the perfect example. I tweeted about this yesterday. I was like, AI saved our life. We I have no idea what I would be doing right now. There's nothing where I felt like home. Ai literally allowed us to do whatever we want. I don't have to do anything else but create ideas the entire day and manage around my people and be like, maybe there's a better workflow to do this. That's That's the hardest thing about my job, and I do not see like it. Maybe it is frustrating for the people in Hollywood that are like, Oh, we built this empire, and we own this empire, and now some 20 year old will be able to compete with us. I mean, I would be a bit annoyed too, right? But at the end of the day, and this is maybe very important thing to have here, and just say, Edward Bernays said motion picture can standardize and shape the ideology of a nation. He understood very early on that motion picture was going to be the biggest propaganda machine ever, because it's very first time that you can put something on screen and make it move. What the effect that this has on the human? For us, it's normal back in the days, well, there's like

Mike Peterson:

it creates that emotional connection,

Amir:

yes, and then your brain can't actually separate something that it deeply imagined, deeply imagined, from something that it actually experienced, right? So when you watch slightly sexualized content or pornography, your brain makes the same hormones and the same it simulates the same feeling as if you are actual sexual intercourse, and the same with if you're watching a series and someone dies that you formed an emotional connection with, you are actually making the same hormones, right? So this is motion picture so important. What a weapon actually? Yeah? And this has been in the hands of the same entity for 100 years, yeah? So I am extremely happy that it's now being rolled out to people like us that are not going to make porn with it.

Mike Peterson:

Yeah, right. No, I love that. I love that it's decentralizing that power and and because it has, it has been weaponized, and it has been controlled mostly by people with a certain agenda, and it's had an impact on impressionable young minds, 100% through that.

Amir:

So we've suffered from, yeah, so I think that's a good way to at least end the topic. And, yeah, and now I have to sell myself,

Mike Peterson:

Yeah. So tell us what, what type of projects should people bring to you? What type of services? Yeah, obviously, as a company, you need to make money. So of course, please explain how that works. And and hopefully we'll get some people reaching out to you.

Amir:

That would be amazing. I mean, if you throughout the podcast felt any type of like connection with us, and you have a story to tell, you can reach out, and then we can make something work. So I think that's the basic thing. And then in terms of, like, very specific use cases, the one that the ones that we are exploring right now is working with authors, people that wrote book. No one really reads books anymore. That doesn't mean that what you wrote is invaluable. It's very valuable, but respected enough to put it or package it in a way that can reach people like us that do not really read books anymore, but consume motion picture we're now exploring this, this working together with actual authors and making movies.

Mike Peterson:

I love that. I mean, I could see that being a huge market.

Amir:

Super huge use case, and for authors, it's the most inspiring process ever, because they spent so much effort on writing something with their hands, and then we can turn it into a movie. So I feel like, if any cool author is watching and it's like, okay, that's something I would like to allocate any or invest invest in. I think that's a project very important.

Mike Peterson:

I'm just curious, and I know it would vary, and obviously this is not a figure we anybody could hold you to, but what would that cost for an author to take a book and and have that turned into a film.

Amir:

for under $20 million No, I don't know. It depends on the if they want a movie, or they want, like, episodes or series, right? So it really depends. It's hard to say a number, because it

Mike Peterson:

was obviously a fraction of what it would cost. Using that

Amir:

tradition, that's the most important thing. So where it would cost 5 million, it's gonna cost like 5% of that. But the most important thing for us is more, as like, when you work with us, you're more paying for our time than for the tools or anything. Because we are allocating our time, we're very small team and. Um, it also just doesn't. I can't hire five more people and then take two more extra projects, because it's our bottleneck, and it's the ideas generation, and that's not something that someone else can do. So how much it would cost, but it depends. I can give, like, a general number of like, what the market stands at. And I think, like, you can get something created for like, I think you can very easily get something for like one and a half k a minute, right? So, so like that, let's say for five minutes. You would pay like 5k or $6,000 something like this, if you would get the top of the top quality with that. I'm not completely sure, but it's also what you want. Maybe an author with almost zero budget is watching. I mean, you can start small and see where it goes out, but for authors that are well established, it's also an opportunity. Now, I feel like, because there's going to be a lot of attention, just because it's aI people just want to know, right? And the AI haters want to have an opinion, but it's funny because it's completely different format. What does an AI editor gonna say against an author that didn't write his book with AI? Yeah, he's like, I want this. Whether Shut up, man, it's what I want. So I think that's, for me, at the moment, the most interesting use case, to be honest. Then obviously, if you have a very cool company with a nice story behind it, we can, we can try, however, it has to have an actual story. If it's just like a very simple product or like I would personally not work together with, like a e commerce brand that's drop shipping, toiletry or whatever, right? It's just not what we would like to do. But if there's a company with an actual story, I mean, like Bitcoin Beach, for example, has an actual story. Doing a film for Bitcoin Beach is an interesting project for us, and anything of that, like magnitude. So that's it. And the thing I don't really like to sell myself, but whatever, when you want to work with us, what we do is we just make sure that we do everything in our power to translate whatever vision you have into a film, a short film, or music, or whatever. And the most important thing is that the limitations are completely removed. So it's endless. You can whatever you have in your mind. We can do. So I think that's it.

Mike Peterson:

Yeah, I love it. What? What is the best way for people to reach out? We'll put some stuff in the show notes, but, but it's always good for people to be able to hear it audibly to what's the best way for them to get a hold of you. .

Amir:

There is join ARQ is for actual creators. Higher ARQ is for companies. If you click on higher ARQ, you will get a form, and you can fill in the form. And I and there's a

Mike Peterson:

and this is, this is from your guys web, his website, website. And what is the actual website?

Amir:

arq.live

Mike Peterson:

arq.live, okay,

Amir:

perfect life. And I have like, a Twitter account where I'm super active, so anyone reaching out to Twitter's should be fine.

Mike Peterson:

And what's your Twitter account?

Amir:

Starks, lower, lowercase. ARQ okay, lower, like the I was it called

Mike Peterson:

like, the underscore,

Amir:

yeah, on the lower underscore, and then ARQ, okay,

Mike Peterson:

So Paco, let's put that in the show notes too, so people can find that.

Amir:

That's basically it. It's not too hard to find, me to be honest.

Mike Peterson:

Okay, awesome, awesome, awesome. Well, I'm, I'm excited to see what comes out of this. And you guys, being here in El Salvador is obviously, I think, a huge blessing for the country. And I love seeing young entrepreneurs that are hungry and coming in and creating and seeing El Salvador is the place they feel like they can do that the best. Thank you so much. Thank you for having us. Yeah, it was my pleasure. Hey, Bitcoin family, we want to kind of end the podcast this month with a special tribute to our dear friend, Andy, as a lot of you guys know, Andy recently passed away after battling cancer. And Andy was was really the heart and soul behind this podcast getting off the ground. He was the one that kind of helped convince me to do it, that designed, the studio, that came up with the format, and, you know, did the great intro that we had and and has really been the the energy behind it, he brought Paco in, and kind of trained Paco to take over the daily production. But, you know, Andy still always had his kind of fingerprint on what was going on here, and so we just asked you guys to really be keeping his family in prayer, his wife, Suez, and his daughter Maven, as they kind of struggle through this time. And we just want to give a shout out to Andy and just what an amazing friend he was. He was the guy that everybody loved. You didn't find anybody who didn't love Andy. And so rest in peace, brother.