Walkable Cities, Smarter Streets, and the Future of Safer Mobility

A walkable city changes your brain for the better: you stop planning your day around parking and start noticing streets, storefronts, parks, and people. We kick things off by challenging a popular “walkable vacation” list and making a clear case for Boston as a place where you can truly ditch the car. From there, we size up what makes destinations like Key West, Savannah, Chicago, New Orleans, and New York City work on foot, and why smaller towns can deliver an even better walkable experience when you choose the right main street and the right stay.

Then the tone shifts to pedestrian safety, and the stakes get real. In 2024, 7,080 pedestrians died and 71,000 were injured in the United States. We break down a deceptively simple mobility technology: front brake lights mounted inside the windshield that show oncoming road users what a vehicle is about to do. Amber indicates braking, and white indicates maintaining or accelerating. If pedestrians and cyclists can read “vehicle intent” faster and more accurately, that gap could mean fewer tragedies at crosswalks and intersections. We also talk about the hard part: cost per vehicle, regulation, NHTSA testing, and why aftermarket adoption may be the bridge to wider change.

Freight gets its own spotlight with a “road in a lab” at Argonne National Laboratory, a giant treadmill for Class 7 and 8 trucks that lets engineers test engines, fuels, and drivetrains under repeatable conditions without risking lives on public roads. 

Finally, we look at the EV market after tax credits, why some automakers pivot to hybrids, and why Kia still bets on an affordable EV3-style entry point as gas prices remain painful and total cost of ownership matters more than ever.

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Seven Walkable Cities For Trips

SPEAKER_02 0:18

I'm Ken Chester. On the Docket, Seven Walkable Cities, How Front Brake Lights Can Save Pedestrian Lives, and the U.S. builds Road in a Lab to test trucks without highways. To add your voice to the conversation, be it to ask a question, share an opinion, or even suggest a topic for future discussion, call or text the Tech Mobility Ontline, that number, 872-222-9793, or you can email the show directly talk at techmobility.show. Before I go any further, I want to tease you with a little something. Last six months or so, I've been working on a project, and I'm really excited. It's almost ready. What I'm going to do, I am going to make sure you find out first. I'm going to give y'all first chance, first crack at it when it's available. Not ready to tell you what it is yet. It's not quite done. But I promise it's going to be in the next couple of weeks. And like I said, you will be the first to know. Because you know I got you like that. And I think you're going to really find a lot of value in that, particularly if you're an individual thinking about starting a business even though you're working full time and your plate is full. That's all I'm going to tell you about it right now. I don't want to give away too much. But trust me, the wait will be worth it. Next couple weeks. We talk about all kinds of mobility on this program. We've talked about space travel. We've talked about ocean travel. We've talked about trains and planes and automobiles, trucks. You name it. We've talked about it. I want to come back to walking. Walking. The first and primarily main way we get around. Whether it's room to room or block to block, we walk first. Whether you walk to your car, your your transportation, upstairs, downstairs, we walk. I don't think that walking gets the appreciation as a transportation mode. I'm looking at an article here that was written by a person uh in the Washington Post, and it talked about seven walkable cities where you don't need a car to have a great vacation. Before I even mention her cities, I got a bone to pick with this article because one of the major cities that should be on their list isn't. And it's a city I walked around a lot, and that is very walkable. So let me put my two cents worth in before I even start with Boston. No, Boston's not on her list, but it should be. You walk everywhere in Boston. And where you can't walk, you can catch public transportation. Even with all the challenges that the T has had in the last 40 years, it is still by far the most effective way to get from point A to point B within 40 miles of Boston. Whether you're taking commuter rail, whether you're taking the green line, the red line, the blue line, whether you're catching a trackless trolley, whether you're catching whatever, a bus, a regular bus, all of that makes it relatively easy that if you live in Boston, metropolitan Boston, you ain't too far from a bus stop or train station, which means you can get around. And that's great for getting around and seeing the many historic sites that are in and around Boston. From the HABA to the airport to Faniu Hall Marketplace, Haymarket Square, all of that. Easy to get around. Matter of fact, and this is some time ago, I didn't own a car in Boston. Didn't need one. And got around just fine. Still can. You don't need a vehicle to get around in Boston. But they talk about some other cities. But I wanted to get kind of get my New England on and get my Boston on a little bit because they start with San Francisco. I've been to San Francisco. I like it a lot. However, I would disagree. I would not necessarily walk in San Francisco. Primarily from the airport, first thing you got to do, you've got to drive. Although there is train service, I think BART does go out to the airport to SFO. But I've never traveled public transportation in San Francisco. So I am not as aware, although I've been in San Francisco and driven around. And driving around's not nearly that bad in San Francisco. In Boston, it's impossible. Another city they talk about. They talk about Chicago. And you can go both ways in Chicago. You can drive if you want to, but again, it has a very extensive public transportation infrastructure. And it gets you to the lake. It could get you north of the city, south of the city, a little bit out in the western suburbs. You can get around. You can indeed get around. And again, traffic. Chicago traffic is like Boston traffic. And we reported it here. Two of the worst interchanges for interstates in the entire United States is just outside of Chicago. And fun fact, both of those interchanges are interchanges that when I come into Chicago, I go through both of them. I didn't know. Who knew? But yeah, downtown Chicago, my daughter, my oldest daughter loves Chicago. And they get around. They park the car and they get around. They've been to Chinatowns, they've been in the museums, and they walk. Not necessarily have to drive. New Orleans. I've never been really to New Orleans. But they say if you're in town for a quick trip, you may not venture outside the you may not have to venture outside the historic French quarter. There's so much to feast on. And I didn't know. The French Quarter is actually 85 city blocks. I had no idea. They said it's plenty to do, all sorts of stuff to have fun in. Place that I want to go that's on her list, and I understand this, is Key West. Key West is like two miles wide and four miles long, and yeah, you park your car, you walk. And that makes total sense. And I that's on my bucket list. I definitely want to go to Key West. They talked about Savannah, Georgia. I'll say it like this here. I've been to Savannah. If you have never been to Savannah, Georgia, add it now, right now, on your bucket list. Add Savannah. Historic Savannah. I don't have words. It's beautiful. It's amazing. It is steeped in history. And it's worth the trip for no other reason to go through the historic parts of Savannah. It's an amazing place. Totally down for that. They say New York City. Um, that's a toss-up. Because no matter how you try to traverse, you can walk it, you can try public transportation, of which is a lot, but there's a lot in New York City. There are 9 million plus people in the five boroughs. There's a lot going on. Which means you're going to have to be strategic about where you go. But like Boston, yeah, you want to park the vehicle. Vehicle, yeah, not such a good idea. Walk or public transportation. But again, New York, whether you are in uh the village, whether you are in Soho, Chelsea, Manhattan, Queens, Central Park, there's a lot going on in New York City. And you don't have to wander far to get into it. There's a lot of beautiful parts of New York City. People don't talk about it. Now, there are two on their list, there are two places in Maine. One is Bajaba, and I've been to Bajaba, and there's a national park up there. And then Portland, Maine. And I'm trying to think, I've been interior of Maine. I may have driven through Portland, but I haven't spent a real lot of time in Portland. But let me sum it up like this. These are big cities. Obviously, I can name a handful of small cities right here in Iowa. Pella comes to mind immediately. And if you've never experienced Pella, Iowa, Dutch, one street, six different bakeries, you gotta go to Pella. Hotels right there, you can walk around. We just came out of Tulip Time in Pella. It is worth the trip. And it's one of many small towns where if you don't want big cities, but you still want something walkable, throughout the United States, we have these amazing towns. It just takes a little bit of research, a little bit of online looking, maybe even look for a bed and breakfast, which gives you a different aspect of what's going on, you'd love it. Automotive safety continues to evolve. Could front brake lights be the newest best technology? This is the Tech Mobility Show.

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The thoroughly redesigned two hundred and fifty horsepower Saturn view.

Front Brake Lights Save Lives

SPEAKER_02 12:38

For those of you that are not of a certain age, General Motors used to have a division called Saturn. They called it a new kind of car company, and it didn't exist that long. It came into the public consciousness in 1989, and GM ran that division until 2009 through their bankruptcy. In that, and this commercial would have been from 2006, they had developed a small crossover called the View, V-U-E. And that's what that was. It was talking about the redesigned Saturn View. And you may have never heard of it. In fact, you may have never even seen one. But trust me, there was a car brand called Saturn by GM. There were Saturn dealers, this whole thing. But it went away about 17, 18 years ago. Which is why, if you are just now getting your license, you may never have heard of it. Or even if you're in your 20s, you may not even remember it or have faint memories of it. But those of us who were there, we do. And it might even be a few of those running around. But in case you wondered, it was made by GM and they actually had cars, they actually had crossovers, they even had a little uh two-door coupe. It was fun. It was definitely fun. And final fact the first vehicle of what would become the Chevy Traverse, the Buick Enclave, all of those, the GMC Arcadia, was the Saturn Outlook, was actually the first one long before Chevy or GMC or Buick. It's cheap, easy, and in theory, offers a very real solution to the problem of pedestrian death and injury. They are front brake lights, an enhanced front brake light inside the windshield that is attached with a silicone strip that shares with pedestrians, cyclists, and oncoming traffic information conveyed by the back brake light. Imagine. This is topic A. Technology continues to evolve. The center rear, the high stop rear center brake light was mandated by Congress starting for the 1986 model year. Prior to that, you didn't have one. You just had the regular taillights, and those actually were required by the government because early cars didn't even have one or had one taillight way back in the day. The issue is how do you let folks know if a car approaching what the car's intent is? Pedestrians and cyclists are real bad at trying to figure out if a car is braking or accelerating or what. They have no idea. None at all. This is a way to help folk be safe. And I want to give you some numbers here. I want to find these numbers because it blew my mind. Here you go. Let me give you some context because you know Ken loves context. In the United States, 7,080 pedestrians died, and 71,000 were injured. That was just in 2024. 7,000 folk pedestrians. And 10 times that number were injured. To give you further context, every 74 minutes, a pedestrian is hit by a motor vehicle and killed. I'm giving you a minute to process that. Every 74 minutes in the United States of America, somebody is hit and killed by a motor vehicle. Wouldn't it be wonderful if pedestrians, cyclists, and the like had an idea of vehicles that are approaching them? Are they slowing down? Are they speeding up? Statistically, they can't tell. We do a really poor job trying to figure out if a car is speeding up or slowing down coming towards us. So we don't have any idea. But what they're talking about with this system is that when a motorist applies the brake light, that that same light which is facing rear, facing people that are behind them, will also notify people in front of them. That yes, this car is slowing down. You would tell that because that strip would be amber. If the car was maintaining or accelerating speed, that strip would be white. And you could look at oncoming traffic and know what was going on. To get an idea, if they're slowing down, you know it's safe. If they're speeding up, you know to stay out the way. Imagine. Imagine. Right now, the folks that have invented this are having conversations with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration about doing testing to get data to find out. In their own tests, they said that 36% of the time a cyclist, a pedestrian can kind of figure out what an oncoming vehicle is doing. With their system, it's over 86%. That difference right there is the difference between a bunch of lives and a bunch of death or injury. Now the challenge we have is automakers are constantly under pressure to get the cost per unit of every vehicle they build down. And when you look at it, they're looking at, on average, in the average vehicle, anywheres from 10 to 15,000 different parts, from anywhere from 750 to 2,000 different suppliers around the globe. Cost containment is their thing. And if you want to get a project planner in an auto plant riled up, yeah, tell them, oh, this is gonna only cost$10 a unit. Yeah. That$10 a unit is$2.5 million in his plant that year. It adds up really fast. Back in the 1960s, before four-way flashes were standard, you could buy them in the um aftermarket. And my dad, he had a pre-1968 vehicle, and he actually bought a flasher and wired it in to his car. They anticipate that this type of technology for the front brake lights will happen the same way through aftermarket kits by early adopters like my dad was. Now the following year it became standard, but back then it wasn't. They need numbers, they need case histories. They're not just gonna do it because it's the right thing, and it is, but perhaps AutoZone or some kind of aftermarket company can offer kits, and that would help the adoption. It would help the adoption and make our roads safer and give pedestrians a fighting chance. It's a giant truck treadmill, a road in a lab to test semi-trucks without highways. You are listening to the Tech Mobility Show.

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A Road In A Lab

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Did you know that Tech Mobility has a YouTube channel? Hi, I'm Ken Chester, host of the Tech Mobility Show. Each week, I upload a few short videos of some of the hot topics that I cover during my weekly radio program. I've designed these videos to be informative and entertaining. It's another way to keep up on current mobility and technology news and information. Be sure to watch, like, and subscribe to my channel. That's the Tech Mobility Show on YouTube. Check it out! Researchers in the United States have developed a facility that acts like a giant treadmill for trucks. The big rig class seven and eight behemoths that haul tens of thousands of tons over the nation's highways and byways each and every day. But in this facility, these full-size vehicles can be pushed to their limit without ever leaving the building. This is topic B. Imagine a place where you can take this big 10 to 12-ton truck and subject it to all sorts of conditions in order to deduce its limits, in order to design a safer truck, in order to find out how to maximize the truck's performance in ways that does not risk the safety of the driver or anybody else on the road. We have such a place. Researchers in the U.S. have developed a facility that acts like a giant treadmill where these full-size vehicles can be pushed to their limits without ever leaving the building. Backed by the U.S. Department of Energy and built by engineers at the Aragon National Laboratory, the so-called heavy-duty dynometer test dynamo test facility aims to accelerate progress in advanced freight technologies while cutting both time and cost. Because when it comes down to it, time and cost are the two things that if you're in trucking, in addition to the cost of fuel, are big deals. This first of its kind site uses a dynamometer, a precision device that measures force, torque, and power to simulate real-world driving conditions in a controlled setting by applying load to a vehicle's reels. This road in a lab allows engineers to test Class A trucks. Now we're talking about heavy-duty vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating exceeding 33,000 pounds, or 16 and a half tons, if you're measuring, under controlled, repeatable conditions, while accelerating the validation of engines, fuels, and drivetrains. We've talked about the commercial trucking industry. We've talked about that right now, they're in something called the messy middle. They're looking at everything. Everything. And with the current environment and the fact that truck that diesel is over$5 a gallon and depending where you are, over six. And that these vehicles, if they're diesel powered, are getting a maximum of five miles to the gallon. Well, you do the math. And you see the cost. And you see the importance of facilities like this because they're looking for ways that, okay, can we do it this way? Can we do it that way? Can we modify the fuel that it's used? Can we change and test an alternative powertrain? How would it hold up under the stresses of big rig trucking? And we need to do it in a way then safe. We don't need it failing out on the highway and endangering lives. So they're looking at all this stuff. They're looking at battery electrics, they're looking at hydrogen, they're looking at other things. You name it, it's on the table. They're looking at streamlining. Can we get more miles per gallon if we aerodynamically change the truck? Everything is on the table. And that is how they do it here. They subject all of that and then they push it to the limit because they need to know. Truckers are trying to figure this out because it depends on the load, the distance, the duty cycle, everything. A company that specializes in overnight delivery with runs of less than 250 miles a day per truck is a lot different situation than a trucker driving from coast to coast with a load and a time requirement. Weather, condition, type of load. And we haven't even begun to talk if you're talking about a hazmat load or a tanker truck. All of these have different requirements relative to load and condition and what is required. Large and small fleets are trying to assess what makes the most sense for them. Again, that overnight delivery where they're always going back to the same yard every night would lend itself to maybe battery electrics. If you're an over-the-road trucker running coast to coast on time delivery, and you're running 500, 1,000, 1,500 miles, hydrogen may be a better bet, particularly if it's a route that is supported with hydrogen refueling stations, which we were in the midst of a build-out of sorts. Not sure where that is right now, but that was something on the table for some major routes. And then what about all this autonomy we're talking about? How does that even factor in everything? All of this is on the table in real time. And organizations like this and test facilities like this are more important when the price of diesel, when one of their major inputs gets that high, then they're looking for any solution that they can find. Can we run a diesel fuel that is more um diluted with uh ethanol or other um additives? Cut down the price. How will that impact the truck? Are we running biodiesel? Is it B20? Can I run B25? Can I run B30? What does that do to truck performance? Uh, what does that do to truck maintenance? What does that do to truck safety? And can I even get it? They're looking at all of this. All of this. Particularly now as they're dealing with regulations, the costs, and deadlines to stay competitive. Everybody's looking for an edge, everybody's looking for an angle. You would be surprised at just how much technology goes into the movement of freight in the United States, particularly when it comes to trucking. If you didn't know, trucks move over 75% of all the goods in the United States, 75%, it's delivered by truck. So this matters. It matters. And if a small fleet can't figure out how to get a handle, not just today, but tomorrow, next week, next year, with respect to their costs, does it make sense for this fleet to look at going autonomous? Does it make sense to this fleet going battery electric or hydrogen for the routes or the lanes that they serve? What does that do to their bottom line? How much will they have to commit? What kind of regulations will they face and can they meet them? That is what facilities like this explore. Brutally, brutally, brutally important. Because if they didn't have them, then we would be at much more risk. Because when you look at it, it's also a security feature. Having our trucking fleet at its best, at its safest, matters to everybody. Because everybody is touched with regard to trucking, commercial trucking. Whether it's local, long distance, it doesn't matter. Whether it's overnight delivery or heavy hauling. Facilities like this will help the industry get a handle as it tries to navigate all of these unknowns in the next few years. Somebody's got to help them. And this is just one example of the many things that they have to consider, that they have to look at, they have to think about. We are the Tech Mobility Show.

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Kia Doubles Down With EV3

SPEAKER_02 32:35

Did you know that Tech Mobility has a YouTube channel? Hi, I'm Ken Chester, host of the Tech Mobility Show. Each week, I upload a few short videos of some of the hot topics that I cover during my weekly radio program. I've designed these videos to be informative and entertaining. It's another way to keep up on current mobility and technology news and information. Be sure to watch, like, and subscribe to my channel. That's the Tech Mobility Show on YouTube. Check it out. If you are a global manufacturer of motor vehicles, you got long lead times. You commit billions of dollars years in advance for programs that you hope that when those vehicles do get built, that there'll be a market for them. The challenge is that the world doesn't always cooperate relative to timelines. And you can see how in one country, one major market, a change there could really mess up your bottom line. But I think Kia and by note their their parent, the Hyundai group, knows something that the rest of the industry hasn't really fully embraced. So what are they up to? This is topic C. The end of EV tax credits caused a realignment in the United States for a lot of manufacturers who are about to go all in, not just this year, but for the next five to ten relative to EVs. A number of those automakers have actually changed their tune. In the case of Honda, Honda took a$15 billion write-off as they shelved the Aphila joint venture with Sony, as they walked away basically from a number of EVs that they were either trying to build or in the process of building, they stopped building them and paused and pivoted to hybrids. Other automakers have done the same for its canceled number of programs, but not everybody has pulled out of the EV market. As a matter of fact, even after the end of tax credits, Mercedes bringing out an EV, BMW bringing out an EV, and KEA after deferring their smallest EV, they're now coming to the United States, not the rest of the world, the United States. They are bringing their smallest EV here. This is topic C. How can I say this? Sometimes, no, sorry, strike that. All the time. If you're in the auto industry, speed isn't always on your side. Right now, in certain parts of this country, regular gasoline in certain parts of the United States right this minute are over six dollars a gallon. There are other places it's close to five. And in everywhere else is over four. I said this a few weeks ago. And I said that if I was an automotive dealer right now, I would be hoarding every single used EV I could find. And it was a hedge. It's a gamble. That's business. And the gamble told me as I looked at the landscape that there is money to be made if you have used EVs to sell even without the credit. He is going one step further. He is saying, not only are we doubling down because we make the EV6, we make the EV9, but we're bringing our smallest EV to the American marketplace. An affordable EV. We are bringing it here, even now, especially now. You don't get there easily. You don't get to turn a switch. The auto industry is not the kind of industry that you can change on a dime. You've got contracts and you've got suppliers and you've got designs and you've got lead times and you've got factory space and training and all of that that has to happen years prior. And when the market changes on you, like it did for automakers these last two years, it takes a certain amount of intestinal fortitude to say, you know what? Still building this vehicle is the right thing to do. And we're gonna go all in. Now bear in mind, this is not their top and high profit. This is their entry-level electric subcompact crossover, and it's coming. And Kia is aiming at entry-level buyers, even as the market's contracting. What does that tell you? Kia's looking at the world. They're not just looking at the United States. They already sell the EV3 elsewhere. So for them it's incremental. But for a U.S. consumer who cannot afford$4 and$5 a gallon gasoline and maybe be able to buy this competitively priced, which means less than$30,000, about the price of either Chevy Tracks or a Chevy Trailblazer, I'm sure. Because I haven't heard prices, but I guarantee you it's gonna be in there. Because Kia said they didn't disclose pricing, but they said it would be its most attainable electric model. To do that, it's gonna cost less than 30 grand. And honestly, the sweet spot would be$24,995. They came in right under$25,000, they'd sell this thing all day. Can you imagine? You could tell poorer households you don't have to spend$50,000,$60,000,$70,000 owning an EV and being free from the chains of fossil fuels is within your grasp, within your reach, and we'll be glad to sell it to you. That's planning, folks. That's that's long-term planning and sticking to your guns. Because here's the here's the inconvenient truth. China builds more EVs than anywhere else in the world. There are tons of manufacturers and EVs, heavily government subsidized, and they're growing into Europe. Kia sees this, and they know if they're gonna be competitive, they got to have a product. They also know that there's a window of time. They can establish a beachhead in the United States right now. The planet's aligned for them. And the EV3 is gonna probably be the smartest move, even if gasoline falls and it's gonna take a while. They can tout that this vehicle. We don't know what range is, we don't know what cost is, but if it comes in, it's gonna come in at over 200 miles. Better if it's 300. Aim it is an urban vehicle or commuter car. Make it possible that it charges quickly and doesn't cost that much to run. No gasoline cost, no fluid cost, the cost of operation is lower, which means the total cost of ownership is less over time. And if you're pinching pennies, that's exactly what you need to hear right now. Sometimes being in a hurry is not the best idea. Because sometimes the market turns your way even in the midst of it. And those people who are prepared because they got a long-term plan and they're looking at the big picture. And the big picture, whether you like it or not, is affordable EVs, whether they come from China or somewhere else. Because that's what the world wants. And there is a market for them, and they will sell.

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