The Mick & Pat Show - When Systems Fail

Richard High, a detective with Buffalo's Special Victims Unit known online as "Angry Cops," has uncovered something deeply disturbing: officials at Buffalo Public School district are allegedly obstructing police investigations into child abuse, sexual assault, and attempted kidnappings. When teachers and staff learn about these incidents, they're being instructed to keep quiet rather than fulfill their legal obligation as mandatory reporters.

This case exemplifies a larger problem we explore: how systems meant to protect the vulnerable often fail due to incompetence or corruption. We discuss the Peter Principle – how people in hierarchies tend to rise to their level of incompetence – and question why teachers, those with the most direct educational experience, are typically prohibited from serving on school boards.

The conversation takes a surprising turn as we examine the mysterious total blackout currently affecting Spain and Portugal. Some theories suggest this could be related to Earth's magnetic poles shifting, a phenomenon scientists believe occurs every 300,000 years with potentially devastating consequences. Unlike previous shifts in Earth's history, our modern civilization's dependence on electronic infrastructure makes us uniquely vulnerable.

Whether facing institutional corruption or natural disasters, preparation comes down to more than just stockpiling supplies – it requires developing practical skills, building community, and maintaining the belief that survival is possible even when the odds seem insurmountable. How would you prepare if you knew systems could fail? Join us for this thought-provoking discussion on resilience in the face of uncertainty.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:48

Have you heard about Angry Cops and his whistleblow of the essentially cover-up of abusive children in the Buffalo, New York school districts?

Speaker 2 1:03

No, I have not.

Speaker 1 1:05

Do you know who Angry Cops is?

Speaker 2 1:07

No, is he a YouTuber? He?

Speaker 1 1:09

is. I'm pretty sure you know or seen videos of him, but like his, his name is richard high um, is he?

Speaker 1 1:15

a cop, he is a cop but he's also a reservist in the army, okay, and there's been a lot of youtube videos of him actually like a couple of them as a cop pulling people over or making arrests in new york, and a couple of him like, literally in uniform, coming home from work and like detaining a dude in his military uniform until police can arrive to arrest him and he just like he's just a dude who's honestly like your classic, I would say.

Speaker 1 1:45

You know guy in the military becomes a cop, has a pretty successful career and also, though doesn't like, uh, doesn't hold, hold any anything back, right so he's definitely had quite a few what seems to be like uh retributive investigations, uh, compared to most officers, and it's likely because he just is pretty blunt and he's also got quite a bit of a prolific online presence. But he's finally come out and he says I got to talk about it because things aren't happening and the city needs to be held accountable, but he's in a special victims unit. He's a detective for the special victims unit which, for those that know special victims unit, is primarily crimes against children or women. Almost predominantly, special victims units are crimes against children or women, the honestly level of, I would say, stakes and publicity and uh items like that around a lot of those crimes and those crimes being victims, who usually are often not getting justice right. Like special victims units are focused on crimes involving sexual assault and non-sexual crimes that require very highly specialist handling.

Understanding Special Victims Units

Speaker 1 3:18

So, you might need an actual child therapist on the team to talk to the children to make them feel comfortable to actually say what happened. And then you now need someone who's good with child forensics and can get an accurate swabbing of DNA and stuff. Anyways, all I said. He's a cop who tries to protect kids, right, and his whole motivation for being a cop right now and being a detective is staying up for kids. And he found out I don't know how recently, but he blew the whistle that Buffalo Public School district officials are intentionally obstructing police investigations into child abductions, child abuse, child sexual assaults, attempted kidnappings, and have failed to act in their like law law enforcement, like sorry, not law enforcement legal requirement to be mandatory reporters. And so that's essentially like if a teacher is made aware that a child's being abused, or a teacher's made aware that a child's been sexually assaulted by another kid or someone at home or whatever, or if a kid has been kidnapped or someone attempted to kid, kidnap them and they don't report it, that teacher could go to jail.

Speaker 1 4:35

Right, mandatory reporters are like in their job, they are required to report these things to law enforcement and they are not reporting it out of fear of, uh, punishment from the school because the school doesn't want the perspective and publicity of. You know, this isn't a safe place for kids, or the school district, right? And so the police have put in subpoenas and FOIAs and the school is straight up just like not assisting with it and like just refusing to cooperate and not answering phone calls, calls, and the police department's not doing anything. Because the school district intendants and the board are like essentially greasing the police, weird wheels to like, hey, just help us, sweep this under the rug.

Speaker 1 5:22

And parents, dude, parents, are not being told when they go to pick up their kid and like, hey, why'd my kid piss himself. The teachers are like, oh, we don't know, even though the kid just told the teachers at at lunch today a man attempted to kidnap me and I got away. And another student is verifying what this child's saying. Right, you know like it's not like unvetted claims right in the school just being told like. Or the staff at the school is being told like do not tell the parents about this at all, like keep, keep stuff quiet. And so uh and uh, they've all. And then they've also used the buffalo police department school resource officers to write reports that had their influence over those officers. So they're using, like they're putting pressure on, those officers that are school resource officers to kind of help cover things up and obscure information from the special victims unit and they're denying allegations of course.

Speaker 2 6:21

Surprisingly yeah.

Speaker 1 6:23

No kidding, right, but isn't, isn't that nuts man? And if anyone's interested in this, you can watch the what's it called Unsubscribe.

Speaker 2 6:33

Unsubscribe podcast, if anyone's interested in this.

Speaker 1 6:33

You can watch the um, uh, what's it called? Unsubscribed, unsubscribed podcast. They just had this like episode where it's pretty much just like 30 minutes of uh, uh, angry cops, richard high explaining the situation and, dude, he cries a bunch in it like he's pretty fucked up, like he's. You can tell he's he's having a hard time understanding and like processing like what's going on with these kids and that he's pretty much powerless to do anything about it. And he's actually now suing the city because he's essentially getting like career punished.

Speaker 1 7:06

And they, he believes like essentially they're telling him he's not qualified to be promoted, because he's, of course, trying to get promoted so he can freaking also squash his stuff. And they're like no, you're not, you, you don't, you can't be promoted. And they're opening up a bunch of different like new investigations on him. People are like yeah, he was drunk when he like stole weed from me and it's like what? Like it seems like kind of convenient you know reportings of like officer misconduct all of a sudden when he's you know whistleblown about the school and the police being corrupt, but pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 7:40

Right it is, it is crazy and I mean, yeah, the you know yet to be seen on. It's hard to you know pull and prove evidence on stuff. But you know, I think it's honestly. I'm just looking at pictures of like these people and on the school board who are talking and like the school board meetings I'm like it just looks like a bunch of people who are classically incapable school board members. I mean, the more and more I see you know like and I'm sure there's lots of good school board members out there too, well-intended also but the more and more I see, like you know, videos come out of like you know these meetings where, like parents are coming and like bringing concerns and like the school board members just like sitting there, just like kind of like stone-faced and like just straight, like uh, not engaging at all that person who's coming up there and they're just like either you know one forcing them to leave or be thrown out of the meeting or just like or running to arrest or getting into a the loop of.

Speaker 2 8:51

They're just like a verbal loop of, like you know, just denying or saying you know, or like changing the subject and like, just like you know, some of these people hold these positions. You know that are important positions and you know, unfortunately, lots of these types of positions. The people who should be in those roles are just uninterested in dealing with it or being in it. They got other things and better things to do and they're more successful, more intelligent, more motivated.

Speaker 2 9:27

And it's like you know, typically, and I feel like in government, especially small government, the people who get in the spots are the ones who and I feel like in government, especially small government, the people who get in the spots are the ones who are just willing to like basically their best qualities.

Speaker 2 9:40

They kind of kind of show up for work and oh yeah, and just like they have a pulse and just gray man it to the top or complain it to the top, or you know, or they suck, and so then they, they basically get rid of them in that position by just moving them up the ladder and like, because then it's the type of person who will sue. You can't fire them because they'll sue you because of whatever marginalized thing they want to say they are, and then they're going to make it to the top. That way it's like. And so I don't know, I haven't personally engaged with like a lot of this and obviously, like, those videos I'm seeing are the ones that like I'm sure there's lots of school board meetings out there that are just super boring and people squared away getting it done, you know whatever.

Speaker 1 10:28

No, parents are there because they don't care, because everything's fine, right, and so the ones.

Speaker 2 10:33

I'm seeing is definitely of a select subject group, but it's like I mean just looking at these.

School Board Corruption Analysis

Speaker 1 10:39

A couple of things on that Before we lose track, because I want to keep you focused on two things. One, the Peter principle is, I think, the effect of a lot of school boards and working for city or local governments, which is, uh, in a hierarchy this is by dr lawrence j peter from 1969 uh, in a hierarchy, every employee tends to rise to their level of incompetence. Yeah, and so it is that thing of, like you, you or you will be promoted up until you are incompetent and cannot get past the challenges in front of you and there, and then you won't get pat, then you won't be promoted any further, you won't rise up any further, which I think we often see in government quite a bit. It's like you're wondering how in the hell do they find some of these people at the DMV? It's like, well, they're there because that is their level of incompetence. They can't go past that, right, their level of incompetence, they can't go past that right. Um, and then, uh, the other thing, like with this too, um, right, is I find it crazy that we would let someone govern, say, our local education system.

Speaker 1 11:46

A school board for local school district, uh, that has no experience, or almost no experience being the people facilitating the education which is teachers, like most school boards. I don't know if you noticed that most school boards do not allow like cities do not allow teachers to be on the school board. Isn't that insane? Think about it. Yeah, like that. That's mind-boggling to me. Man, like you know who gets to make the laws People who work in law enforcement that have worked their way up to like district attorney level, right, and they get to decide, like you know, enforcing laws and like which ones are discretional or non-discretional, and they also usually work their way up from attorney general to governor or senator, right and helping sign laws in office.

Speaker 1 12:34

It's mind-boggling to me that most school districts ban teachers from being on the board, like the school board. That is unreal. Like who else would be better fit to help kind of decide the direction of that than the people who are working with the students day in and day out, right, which you know one? You could say you're like, well, there's a lot of teachers nowadays that I don't think are good teachers. And you're like, yeah, well, you know, you kind of would hope that the school board ran by teachers who are aware of the quality of other teachers would eliminate those teachers. You know what I mean, but I don't know, I find that crazy. It's like imagine there's a board of engineering for a city and oh yeah, by the way, if you're, you know, a civil engineer that works for the city, you're not allowed to be on the board that's on.

Speaker 2 14:56

That would make no sense, you know yeah, no, I agree, and the it's funny I was. I was actually just looking up our local like school board stuff, just realizing how much I don't know about stuff here. Um, and the two words just pop up so often the word board and committee. Yeah, I hate the word committee. Anything that has word committee. I'm like I'm uninterested in it. I'm like this is a place where nothing gets done. I don't know. It's just I think you know, god bless the people who are in it for the right reasons and really like work hard at stuff. Like work hard at stuff, but, oh man, just like meetings and agendas, board policies, committees, 2025 committees, levy questions these are all things that all these things are things that I have zero like they.

Speaker 1 15:57

They instantly make me be like I don't want to ever I'm not going to pay taxes anymore, or just it's like I don't want to personally have to do any of these things that these other people have to do so, but that's the issue man is that no one wants to be involved in these I stand by, and that's just so I'm responsible yeah, the people that are running these things are the worst people to be running them, because the people who have vested interests aren't making time to run it, which is I have a buddy who just got uh onto uh a big city here in colorado. It's a city that you know, you and I would be impressed with, but he just got onto their uh finance committee oh wow, like for the city, and he's got on there specifically he's ron swanson-ing them.

Speaker 2 16:40

Yeah, like he's like this, is it like?

Speaker 1 16:44

bring it down. I'm really proud of him, dude, and uh, I think, like you know, that's kind of honestly what we should all be doing, like we're so sick of stuff and like local government I think is so powerful that, like you should get involved in your local government so that way you can like fix the crap that's going on and kind of seed out the cesspool sorry, weed out the cesspool yeah, definitely, and the I had a.

Speaker 2 17:10

My dad taught me a good lesson about this through his action once, which was and people always complain about.

Speaker 1 17:16

He said it like as he lit the molotov cocktail and burnt down city hall. He's like remember. You remember little pat you can make a difference no, the uh.

Speaker 2 17:29

You know people complain about their hoa and stuff and it's full of karens and full of freaking crazy people and blah. It's just like it's horrible. Yeah, so he was sick and tired of it. All this. I mean, it's just petty bullshit and just hoa stuff and just like just ridiculous and like nothing's getting done and fees are going up and nothing's getting done.

Speaker 2 17:43

it's just petty bullshit, HOA stuff, hoa stuff, oh my gosh, just ridiculous. Nothing's getting done and fees are going up and nothing's getting done. It's just all just ridiculous. So he went down there and was just a part of the meetings for a while and he, just, he just was there until he became the president.

Speaker 1 18:00

No way, yeah, dude. And then he like gutted it.

The Peter Principle in Government

Speaker 2 18:05

Yeah, from the inside out. He came in there and he just made the like, the changes he wanted to see happen. He got in there and made the changes, got it to happen and, like you know, uh, had to deal with all the, the people and, and you realize too, at that position you can't keep everybody happy either. Like, yeah, even you're like, all right, I'm gonna get in here and make it right, but it's like can't get everybody happy. But at least like, if you want to see change and you're complaining about it, well, go to the meetings, become the president and change it. You know it's like, yeah, and it was a good lesson you know to see, see, you know that play out, because you know, yeah, yeah, you're complaining about stuff never changes anything.

Speaker 2 18:46

And so that's what you got to do, because the the other methods aren't an option.

Speaker 1 18:55

My plan is to become governor of Colorado and fix our our stupid gun laws, um, but anyways. Uh, I was really encouraged cause I made a joke recently that I was gonna run for a mayor of our small little neck of the woods yeah, and a couple dudes were like dude, I'd vote for you.

Speaker 1 19:13

In a heartbeat I was like, okay, yeah, but no like for real. And they're like no dude. I would because, like, I'd vote for you over, like someone who has no like pulse on like issues that are important to me and I was was like oh, okay, All right. Well, maybe I will do that. Yeah, maybe I'll put Billie Jean through that hell, and you know, be like all right, honey we gotta go do a photo shoot.

Speaker 1 19:35

I know you're going to stress about your makeup and hair for like four hours as we go for this photo shoot that only like three people are going to see, but it's for my mayor campaign.

Speaker 2 19:45

I like it. I mean hey, I think you should do it, I'll make for mayor. Dude, make for mayor man.

Speaker 1 19:53

Here's the issue If I win and then I announce it here, people are going to know who we are, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 19:59

It's going to be wild yeah.

Speaker 1 20:03

Oh my gosh Dude. Uh, one thing I do really want to do, though the more I've been looking into it, is, uh, uh, expand on the marvin hemeyer case. Oh, I guess, before we get to that, do you have any other thoughts on this, like whole school district stuff and how you'd feel like what would you do, pat? You sure, here's the thing a lot of people I feel like have the perspective of you from this podcast. You're pretty like, walk with a big stick and don't say a bunch of words. You know what I mean. Be like a quiet guy. I think we'd hear about it in the news if you found out someone had tried to kidnap your little Pat's little Patricia in the school, legit started deleting video evidence, cover up and didn't want to tell you like what would you do, man?

Speaker 2 20:49

oh yeah, I mean, that's where I mean I would I, I feel like I'd get, I feel like I'd get called by your wife I feel like mason would be like can you come get him I? Have. I have put some safeguards in my life of different things yeah so that you know. Be like micro example would be like if you take your kid to the doctor and they had a broken bone.

Speaker 2 21:14

yeah, this and this, this happened to here's. I'll go through a story, quick story. That happened to one of my, uh, an acquaintance. Uh, their new baby broke their leg but like, like, they got it out of the crib, they don't know what happened. They don't know what happened. Take it to the doctor. Doctor says your baby has a broken leg and the doctor said the only way this can happen is from abuse. That's insane.

Speaker 2 21:41

And these two people, I mean like hand to God innocent, I mean it's like they're like what and so they went into a huge CPS thing. I mean it turned into a huge months and months long thing, all this stuff. So anyways, for instance, in a case like that, where, as you'd be expected, your emotions would be very heightened and you'd want to, you know, you want to protect, it's like you got to have safeguards in your life or you just got to have a buddy you can text or whatever hey, come pick me up. We got to leave. You know we got to get out of here and, unfortunately, fortunately, fortunately and unfortunately, you can't handle stuff like it's 1824. In a case like this, similar to the story I just told of my father going during the HOA. Becoming the president, it's like it would become my life's mission to tear down that establishment alright.

Speaker 1 22:43

Well, it looks like I'm the new gym teacher.

Speaker 2 22:45

Exactly, yeah, exactly Through like, just like the through the through the right ways, and you can be very shrewd, you can be very you can, you know, not take not physical violence, but you can take violent action you know of, of, you know, um, as far as, like you're, you can be very shrewd and you can maneuver. You can call lawyers, you can call your buddies with money. You can do so many things and put so much pressure on people through a legal means that you can ruin their life. And now that can be hard to do and there's also, like, there's, implications for that too.

Speaker 2 23:19

You're not just allowed to do that for no reason, but you know it's flying off the handle and taking, like you know, going good old boy, matters into your own hands. It's going to be a very short term solution. It's not actually going to have the outcome you want, and so I would, I would take an approach that would be. It would be I'd put a lot of pressure and and-physical pain in these people's life until they relented, they resigned and or came clean, you know.

Speaker 1 23:53

I'd want it to be something that my son or daughter shares on the internet one day about like. Let me tell you the story of how my parents gutted this city school system from the inside when they found out that the school was covering up child abuse.

Speaker 2 24:13

Yeah, it's called the legal vendetta. It's like you're like, you stay within the. We have a system. It's the same thing like you could get into a conversation of like tax code or whatever. Yeah, hey, some big dogs out there. They don't pay no taxes and they're not breaking any rules. Yeah, Right.

Speaker 2 24:32

There is a structure that's put in place and you have to operate within that structure. This isn't, you know, not a moral conversation. This is a hey, what's the structure that's been put in place and how can you work within that? And it's been based off of morals to a point. But like, yeah, the um, I would be very upset and I would, I would take action and uh, and I think generally, like it's, it's like 99.99% of the time, staying within the lines, you can actually do a lot more damage to to your enemy.

Speaker 1 25:15

Yeah, I'm trying to think of the word it's like. You know, it's essentially like it, rather than just saying like nonviolent violence, but it's essentially. There's a term for it and it's often used those lines of like you're essentially, you do everything above the board, but each of your actions is slowly chipping away at the like institution or integrity infrastructure of the institution and, uh, there's nothing you've done illegal and there's nothing you've done that is physically harm.

Speaker 1 26:03

So but, at the end of the day, like your actions or non actions, will essentially help cripple this institution, and I can't remember what it's called, but I want to say compliance violence.

Speaker 2 26:15

But if this gets your blood going, you might have to read Count of Monte Cristo.

Speaker 1 26:21

He's in jail.

Speaker 2 26:25

He's in jail briefly and for a very long time, yeah yeah, just like Andy Dufresne. And the uh. Who's that again? Shawshank, oh, yep, yep, okay, yep, yep the uh. But hey, the Count of Monte Cristo, he, he gets it on in this manner Really, oh yeah, non-compliant. I mean compliance, violence, whatever.

Speaker 1 26:43

Like the Count of Monte Cristo, he gets it on in this manner, really non-compliant. I mean compliance violence yeah, the legal vendetta. You know he gets after it honestly though this is kind of unrelated because you know we're talking about, like you know, seeking justice through accepted means that are not physically violent, which which should be called the justice system.

Speaker 2 27:07

But since we don't actually think that's like maybe like a great structure, like you gotta, you gotta have a more broader, I don't know here's my thing man bring back duels, bring back duels, dude you gotta, I'm so down. Okay, you gotta read the count of monte cristo dude this is your.

Speaker 1 27:21

Bring back duels like like here's the thing Everyone's happy to run their mouths, Everyone's happy to be like yeah, well, I'll call the police for assault. And everyone uses the word assault all the time.

Speaker 1 27:30

When I poke my finger on your chest, yeah, or whatever. And they run around and they yell he's hitting me. They try to get a mob of people to then kill this person. I'm just like bring back duels, like because then then then it all goes out the way. It's like all right. If you're gonna falsely accuse me of hitting you or assaulting you because we're having a disagreement, why don't we just why not go all the way, dog?

Speaker 2 27:55

yeah, let's go all the way.

Speaker 2 27:57

Uh, honor, true honor, has been lost in our culture big time, and it's uh I think that's something that we struggle with here and then, when we hear these types time and it's a I think that's that's something that we struggle with here and then, when we hear these types of stories, it's like that's why, you know, it gets to the point where it's like wanting to bring back the duel, you know, because it's like and I'll say this I haven't, I don't think there's anyone I've met in my life that I would challenge to a duel.

Speaker 1 28:19

I don't think there's anyone yet in my life that I've been so angry and felt so wronged by, you know, through libel and stuff like that. There's been people who I feel like have totally hurt my reputation with their lies at one point or another, but not to the point where I'm like, all right, let's freaking settle this. But I will say like I think if duels existed, everyone would have a little bit more like maybe I shouldn't lie about this and, like you know, they like they'd hold their tongue a little bit more consequence for their actions.

Speaker 1 28:52

Yeah, yeah, no, I mean because if they're like, you can't prove that I'm lying, the court's stacked against you. Be like, fine, I challenge you to a duel. Yeah, if you speak truth, except, surely god fate in the universe will take your side, right, I'll be dead with a grease bullet through my abdomen. But if you're lying, yeah anyways. Hey, I say that like I guess that's why I want to clarify.

Speaker 2 29:18

There's no one I want to kill, but I do think duels should come back. I think there'd be. There'd be like there could be. Think duels should come back. I think there'd be like there could be. If duels came back, there'd be like less road rage kills For sure. You know what I mean, because you'd have a what's the quote about polite society.

Speaker 1 29:36

An armed society is a polite society.

Speaker 2 29:38

There's that one, but the other one was I'm mixing that up with basically like, is that one? But the other one was I'm mixing that up with basically like something along the lines of like, if, like, uncivilized, violent people are like much more like gentlemanly than gentlemen, it's like it's this like better.

Speaker 1 29:57

Are you talking about the warrior gardener one?

Speaker 2 30:00

not the warrior gardener no, it's like I'll have to find it it but the basic quote is that you know, if there's risk of, you know, loss of life, you're going to be a lot more respectful and polite and honoring of each other versus, like you know, no consequence for your actions.

Speaker 1 30:19

I will say you know, you definitely see for sure in Road to Rage videos where a dude gets out waving his hands around, walking up with his bat or his gun to the car and you know for sure that guy has not thought one second about repercussions. But if we were in a society where people could just duel on the median and then get back in their car and leave afterwards, a lot of people would stay in their cars, they would have kept driving and they'd say I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 30:44

Good day, sir, Good day to you. You cut someone off.

Speaker 1 30:46

And then they get freaked out and they walk up to your car and cut you off and you're stuck in dead. Stop traffic. And they're like you're a damn idiot, Get the fuck out of the car. You're like I will, sir, Step over to. I'm like oh wait shit.

Speaker 2 31:02

No man, it's good, I'll just get in my car Carry on Daddy though. Yep, it's, it's I. I have like so much to say, I can't even say any of it. I keep looking at this picture Of this school board and just thinking I bet a lot of and just thinking I bet a lot of them don't know.

Speaker 1 31:28

I bet a lot of them wouldn't be willing to duel.

Speaker 2 31:30

No honor, no honor, no, you know. And so you know. And then back to the piece of you know and, and I don't, I haven't looked into it, I don't know anything about, like you know the, the, you know allegations from you know, uh, angry cops on the school board, but I'd say the I wouldn't be surprised if he's 100% right. You know what I mean.

Spain and Portugal Blackout Mystery

Speaker 1 31:58

I think there is because there's other whistleblowers from the school that are corroborating. Someone in the tech department of one of these high schools made a copy of the video for one of the attempted kidnappings and copied it and saved it before the school had them delete it and they submitted that video evidence to the attorney general for investigation. So like there's other people in the school district that are like kind of helping him make the whistleblowing case, you know what I mean. But yeah, no, I get what you're saying. Like it's one of those things of like it it's likely true, but like until, like, court and stuff is all settled out, like it's hard to say one way or the other.

Speaker 2 32:45

Oh, I found it robert e howard. I don't know who that is, you should probably look him up. But the uh, civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skull split as a general thing. Yes, you know, yes, that's that's true, has you heard that one before?

Speaker 1 33:06

no, but I've, I get the essence of the concept.

Speaker 2 33:10

Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 33:11

I think the concept and essence of that is very much. You know the the like, uh, powerful men, like truly powerful and great men like you, can't be great if you don't have the capacity for violence. Right, it's a classic, like psychology, of a argument from Jordan B Peterson, right, have you heard this? I think so. Okay, right, but yeah, for people who don't know it's, it's essentially like in order to be great, requires you to have the capacity to be not great.

Speaker 2 33:47

And what?

Speaker 1 33:47

would be not great is if you, as a man, went silverback grill and started ripping people's limbs off and beating them with them. You know what I mean. What would be not great would be, you know, if you had the capacity to do insane harm and did it. To do insane harm and did it. So if you don't have the capacity to do a lot of harm but, essentially, are living with this concept of like well, no one else does either, and so we can say and do whatever we want without any repercussions or consequences then you're not a great individual. You're actually not a good individual, if anything. You are sometimes not evil, but that doesn't mean you're actually not a good individual. Like, if anything. You are sometimes not evil, but that doesn't mean you're good. In order to be like a truly good and great person, you need to have the capacity to actually hurt and harm and the ability to not hurt and harm when that is an option. You know it's essentially like the concept of like.

Speaker 1 34:41

What makes a good husband? Well, you could say a lot of things, but one of the things that makes a good husband is a husband who never lays his hand on his wife. Right and well, if you're a. If you're a dude who, like this, is going to tighten up some britches, but if you're a dude who doesn't have the capacity to harm your wife cause you're kind of a wuss, yeah then like you and your bad husband. You're a bad husband. You don't have the. You don't like you there.

Speaker 1 35:08

You're not great because if you're like, well, I never hit my wife, and it's like well, of course you haven't your wife would break you in half you know what I mean and like it's one of those things like that doesn't, that isn't something counted towards your greatness of like being a good husband, right?

Speaker 2 35:22

yeah, yeah, just because it's a yeah, the uh, you got to have the capability and you, I'd say you're not. It's not like you have any restraint you know, exactly. It's not like you have any.

Speaker 1 35:34

Yeah, it's the um which is also like I'm not here to say, like I'm just walking around constantly like, oh my god, I just want to beat her, but I won't like you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 35:42

Like, yeah, like the example of like maybe the n cell christian kid in in high school who's like I'm, I live a pure life like bro. You couldn't get any if you tried, but yeah, you're just desperate.

Speaker 1 36:00

You've had no option, you have no example, or you've had, you've had no, no, you know no chance for it.

Speaker 2 36:06

Um, but yeah, the uh. It's something there's some definitely said about that the capability for whatever it is, and then the wisdom, discipline and self-control to you know, have the reins on yeah it's.

Speaker 1 36:22

It's also like in the same philosophy, I think the same field of philosophy of like what is truly a better life? To be born good and remain good and live as a good being, a morally right being and you were born that way or to be born evil, into evilness and through discipline and self-control, overcome your evil ways and eventually become good, like what is a better life worth living and you know what is more righteous, right.

Speaker 1 36:53

And it's like well, of course, that's easy, like it's the second one for sure right but that's the one that, like we, would never pick for ourselves yeah, and it's hard to like.

Speaker 2 37:04

You also wouldn't like pick it for your kids?

Speaker 1 37:05

Yeah, I want my kids to be good, born into a good thing and always only experience it. You know yeah exactly that's.

Speaker 2 37:13

That's like, that's like the classic, like uh, like uh, when you get people get asked to tell their like testimony at like church or something, and it's like uh, it's funny, like you, always, it's the it was on the guy who was like you know, he was a hell's angel, yeah, you know, and uh, there was lots of cocaine and like things you know, and then like uh, like you know, a road to Damascus moment.

Speaker 1 37:40

Versus. Like you know, like scales fell from my eyes, yeah, exactly. They're like well, I guess I was just always a Christian. I know it's like hey, that testimony's good too. That's a praise Jesus for the life you have.

Speaker 2 37:55

It is funny, like I've been asked to like share my testimony, so like there was some rather large things it was like 300, 400 plus people and they're like hey, give them a share of your testimony. And you're like, I'm not going to do that, you need to find somebody else.

Speaker 1 38:10

It's like you don't want me. I'm proud of my testimony, but you don't want it.

Speaker 2 38:15

You know what I mean, right? Oh yeah, it's not what you're looking for here. It's not the sales pitch you're going for. Come on, let's get, let's get savvy. Here, folks, we're winning souls, but the um.

Speaker 1 38:28

I will say, though, I would take someone's honest testimony of you know what I've always felt like Jesus was a part of my life, and I've always like you know, felt him in my home I felt, you know the Holy spirit guiding my parents and I'm thankful for that.

Speaker 1 38:43

And I just want to take the next step with my own willingness to declare I'm a follower of Jesus and like that's my testimony, rather than people who get up there and they're like they just got to make they like they, you know spend hours creating and fabricating or like, like you really want to know my deepest, darkest stuff. Sure, let's talk about it, but let's get out the search history. What do you want to know? Yeah, you don't want to know.

Speaker 2 39:06

You don't want to know it's not going to help, okay, you know, but I do agree actually, actually, something that was actually really freeing and for me to like tell my testimony to people was that point. There were, um, an older guy in my life who I see is like just very like strong, humble, wise man and like a and a manly man. I was like I want to be like this guy. When he talks about his testimony, he's like, oh, like I've, just I've, you know. He's like when did you become a Christian? And he's almost like he was like I, I don't know like thing had just been. He's like I couldn't really tell you. I could tell you when I really started, like you know, started certain key parts of my faith and my walk and things, but he's like what he says. He's like, oh, where are you? He's like, oh, my mom raised me in the ways of the Lord.

Speaker 1 39:52

Yeah.

Speaker 2 39:53

He's just like that's the thing, and he has plenty of middle school and high school. He was a hellion and had like, yeah, he did. He has plenty of bad choices, whatever.

Speaker 1 40:04

Has this guy been on the podcast? Yeah, yeah, okay, it's one of those names up there. That's what I figured.

Speaker 2 40:12

But also the piece of that being too. I think that if you grow up in evangelical evangelical like whatever, maybe like like crowds there is, I think that it's like this thing where, like they're, they really don't want like a, a faith process to come out. What they want is you prayed the prayer and now you're a believer, like you know, like this, like you know, like pretty like you, if you've ever done like street evangelism or done like you know missions or whatever you know, it's like hey, here's the prayer, you know, you accept jesus as your lord and savior and like now you're saved, you know, and so we don't. And we and that gets emphasized a lot and versus like um, and I'd say also to like, in that moment it was a switch was flipped and that's I've never, I never went back to those old ways and I've just been this way ever since. And then that that, what that unhealthy part about that is that it lends people to go. Well, I guess I, I did that, I accepted Jesus, but I it kind of that didn't happen. For me it's been a pretty like long process or I've, or there's been times in my life when I've like like moved back this way or the other, and and not that you shouldn't see fruit in your life. But I think that we've like um over time. What happened recently is we've put it into a an equation of, just like you know, pray the prayer, soul saved, change forever. Versus like coming to faith. Coming to faith doesn't have to be, it could be in two seconds with somebody who shares the good news. Coming to faith could also be a very long, drawn out, lifelong process. That's viewed through like you know, yes, there's salvation and there's also deeper. That is like a sanctification of your life throughout time. So it's like the um.

Speaker 2 42:10

I think that the overemphasis on, you know, praying that one prayer versus exploring what does a journey following where, like jesus, didn't even say to his like first disciples, like all right, hey, like sign the paper and you're good. He was like what'd he say to the first guys he went to? He said come and see. That's what he said. He said come and see and then, through walking with him, they, they found, each of them in their own ways, found their life with him and some of them not even up until like the point of, like the cross, right, yeah, to go like when, or like that last last night before in the upper room where they go oh, surely you're the messiah, and so like there wasn't even the guys who actually walked with the dude, so anyways, um, yeah, this is a little tangent there, but yeah, I think it's good yeah that I think that, uh, there's a lot more to be had around the journey of coming to faith versus you know, there you have the Paul.

Speaker 1 43:07

Was it a brutal, dark testimony? You know what I mean and I guess you don't get it. You don't. What was it? What do people talk about it? When they say it Like you know, it's like not counting scars, but it's like you know, I don't know. It's basically equivalent Like Ooh, my sin's worse, so my testimony is better. Jesus redeemed me more, you know, which.

Speaker 2 43:26

I don't really believe that's like anyone's intention, but I do think that is a slope you know, people can slip into and I think the way we talk about it's led people to that, whereas, like, I think maybe the easiest way to bullet it's going to be the peter version or the paul version. Yeah, you know the paul version, that's the. He's killing people, he's a little angel biker and he's on an active mission against jesus until on his way to somewhere, yeah, met in the road, blinded, you know, spoken to versus peter's with jesus for three years and he's like oh, he's like, you know, he's like hanging out with him. And then jesus is like get behind me, satan. And he's like dang it. Or he's like you're gonna deny me again, man, he's like dang it, you know. He's like hey, pick up that sword and follow me. Then he uses the sword and Jesus is like what are you doing? Don't use the sword.

Speaker 2 44:12

And Peter's like what he's like I don't get it, you know, and then, whatever it is, and then even after, like jesus's ascension, you have, uh, similarly like peter, like he's only hanging out with like the circumcised dudes or whatever, like, and like it's just like he had a.

Speaker 2 44:31

That's two very different versions of people you know or like and their story and they're coming to faith, and I think one of those probably should be like spoken about or addressed more so that people can understand that, because when, um, yeah, I think it lends itself to really be hard for others, especially like people who are like. I talked to a guy the other day and he was like man, I just want to believe but I just like don't think I can, or whatever. It's like you can kind of, you can just like kind of start.

Speaker 2 45:04

Yeah, you know, like just start walking down versus like you don't have to just make the make the change like, hey, just say I want to start following, I want to start figuring out, and that will lead you to crazy places.

Speaker 1 45:17

Yeah, I've always. I've always been a huge advocate of the like it's not like.

Speaker 1 45:22

Uh, you know, you don't have to drink this semi-truck trailer of water down today you know, you start, you start believing me when I'm telling you there's water in there and you start having a cup of it. And you know, as you go on, you know you'll get more and more, and I've kind of always viewed it that way. Like I pretty much have always just challenged people Like, yeah, man, but what if we just like pray about it, like let's just start with a prayer today and let's just see how God works through prayer, and if that spurs your interest in more, let's dig into it more. You know, and I can't tell you how many guys I've seen go from like no interest at all or like I can't even. I can't even like wrap my head around this and get grips with it.

Speaker 1 46:09

Oh, you know the how can the bible or god say homosexuality is wrong? I know homosexual, homosexual people that love each other. How can the bible say the world was made in seven days? That's, you know, ludicrous. How can you know god be good if he told people to go and kill everyone in this city? Yeah, it's like hey, man, those are great questions.

Speaker 1 46:31

Let's, though, if you actually have any interest, like we can debate and if you want to debate, happy to sit with you and talk and debate, but if you have an actual interest in like seeing and experiencing, then let's focus on like some baby steps here and let's just start with like what can we see for real in your life today? And then, once we get to the point where you're like all right, now I need to make sense of the things I have a hard time with rather than, oh, making a case against it. Let's start tackling those one at a time, and I've seen that work through and through plenty of times. Right, because if you just start with like all right, well, you know all those people in uh gosh, what was the city? Um, that joshua marches around jericho? Jericho, all those people in jericho were evil sinners that were sacrificing babies. And you know monsters? They were evil monsters to each other. Or Sodom and Gomorrah, you know there was, like it was essentially just a city full of men raping and eating and murdering other ones.

Speaker 1 47:33

Back to the start of the conversation there and then like, if you say that, though, then like people like that's not going to do nothing for them, that. And then like, if you say that, though, then like people like that's not going to do nothing for him, that's not moving the needle an inch for him. But if you're like, hey man, let's pray about you getting a job. Cause if someone's really stressed this was one I just remember working with this dude was like I really need a job, really bad. I'm like, well, let's pray about it. He's really like, yeah, let's just pray to god, help you get a job.

Speaker 1 47:57

What job you want? Like, uh, anything really at this point. Just, I need money. Like all right, cool, prayed about it next week he had a job. All right, what's the next thing we're gonna pray about? And that worked out really well you know what I mean to get him to the point where he was ready to then start grappling with like actual, like, okay, if I'm gonna be a christ, what's it mean, rather than just passive prayers to God, right, right. And so I thought that was pretty, pretty sick.

Speaker 2 48:26

No, it's good, and I think that that will be so, so helpful for so many people. Because, yeah, that's you know one. I think that in our infinite wisdom, as little tiny humans who yeah can't just spur creation at the, you know, at the, at our whim right or whatever like we have to have some form of humility to go. I don't know why he told him to kill all the women and children, yeah, but I don't know, man, maybe I can, maybe I can get there you know yeah, and then like and I have to, or like you know how is it classically, how could god be good?

Speaker 2 49:09

or already kills him, whatever, like you know, it's like I don't need to know that yet, and maybe my own like, just because my heart feels like that's bad. Is it bad? I don't know, maybe there's like, maybe I don't know everything. And so there has to be, obviously there has to be. People have to be at a point where they're, you know, willing and humble to accept and go forward. But in many cases, yeah, it's got to be gentle, nudges and asking, just through relationship, people to engage it yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 49:46

Speaking on that note, though, have you ever seen this old school video of terminator going back in time to save jesus from judas? No, it's incredible. I don't. Uh, we get, we don't have to watch it right now, but I'll show you later but it's honestly just a skit of Jesus at the Last Supper, or maybe I think it's actually more than that. It's not just the Last Supper, but it's like throughout Jesus' life Whenever someone wants to kill him, the Terminator is trying to stop them.

Speaker 1 50:15

And just straight up, pulling out a shotgun From his robe and just blasting Roman legionnaires and the assassins sent to kill Jesus when he was a baby away and like then, like Jesus is like in the last step, where he's like surely I tell you, one of you will betray me tonight. And then like he's like it's Judas, it like shoots him and Jesus is like how many times have I told you I need him to kill me? And he, like he like puts his hand out. You hear like a choir sound. And then judas is like he's like alive sitting up on the table and the turd is like no, I must protect it like shoots judas again and like sends him further down the table. Is that actually arnold?

Speaker 2 50:55

no, it's not an artist. The guy looks like him. Yeah, it's a good cast.

Speaker 1 51:00

Dude, but it's so funny man. Jesus is like I've told you. He has to it's destiny, it's fate. I have to die for this.

Speaker 2 51:09

It's a man, he's like it's in my programming that I must save you, jesus. It's so funny, dude, I'm scrolling through it right now it's pretty.

Speaker 1 51:18

It's a very, very, very old skit, but it's so funny it's like at least 15 years old.

Speaker 2 51:23

Yeah, down the thing. It says it this is recorded off of a television. Says the bomb. Says star trek, the next generation. Tonight at eight from mad tv oh man, the greatest action story ever told. That's what it's called. That's hilarious, oh, that is. That is some good clean, good clean fun right there.

Speaker 1 51:46

Yeah, and it's like it does it like in a very wholesome way, Like I don't even think it ever shows any blutter like that Like it was like made for. It was probably made for a youth group church, you know know it was like made out of church budget, um, but anyways, uh, dude, okay, all right back to the news, though.

Survival During Pole Shifts

Speaker 1 52:03

Oh to the news um, have you heard about the blackout in spain and portugal? No, okay, do this, do this whoever, whoever's listening to do this. Now Look up satellite photo of Portugal, spain blackout. It's unreal how eerie this is. The whole country, whole nation of Spain and Portugal, which is about the size of Texas, is experiencing total blackout right now and we don't know why.

Speaker 2 52:33

Right now still, yeah, still. Oh, my goodness, is it video? Let's see Satell's see satellite photo.

Speaker 1 52:42

I mean, you can just look at a picture yeah, oh, wow, wow, wow, that's crazy looking yeah, like total, complete blackout, like the only people with power in spain and portugal right now uh, and a little bit of france, I guess um are people who have generators or solar, which?

Speaker 1 53:13

doesn't like, doesn't look like very many no dude, the whole whole nation is dark, um, but isn't that insane? Uh, a lot of people, though there's a lot of like congested, like contested information coming out, and there's definitely some misinformation, but a couple of things that some people were saying was that there it was caused by a solar flare, which we've talked about solar flares before on here and like how they uh like the biggest one was the 1859 one, um, that you know was an insane blackout throughout, like, uh, new york and canada, um, but uh, we haven't like one, electronics are way more insulated and protected nowadays from solar flares. We would not probably see that happen from a solar flare today, even a powerful one. But two, there's no detections of solar flares going off, so we don't think it's a solar flare thing. But this is one of the weird things that so far people haven't been able to disprove Pole shift. That so far people haven't been able to disprove.

Speaker 1 54:21

Poles shift and some people are out there theorizing like, hey, if the grid is weak enough in some nations we could be experiencing like the vibrations are right from the North and South poles shifting, like which they genuinely like they? And historically, I guess, if you observe Earth's history, there's evidence that the poles have shifted and flipped. But before they flip, they shift pretty egregiously before. It's kind of like the way magnets work right, like as you're getting magnets closer and closer and closer and closer together, uh, there's a moment where you can feel the force building before they slip out of your fingers and snap together. Or you're pushing up, uh, you know, same pole like positive, positive. And there's a moment where, like right before you can get them to touch, they like switch and pivot and spin around to to attract um.

Speaker 1 55:18

A lot of people are theorizing like that you know this could be a result of pole shift and that we're looking at like a total pole swap in the next like year or two. Is that because spain and portugal have not had very good power grids and, like it, actually their grids have been compared to like third world ones? I believe just because of the infrastructure is so old and not like properly sustained by the government?

Speaker 2 55:42

and what do they even do? I don't know. Like what do they? What is spain and portugal?

Speaker 1 55:46

I mean meaning like they give money to millennials to come live in their country, right?

Speaker 2 55:51

now, that's what I mean as far as like how do you keep up an infrastructure? It's like you haven't done anything since like 1942.

Speaker 1 55:57

Yeah.

Speaker 2 55:57

Before I mean 1492. Can you?

Speaker 1 55:59

imagine if you told, like the Spanish, like what the empire would become. You're like no one knows what you guys do anymore. Yeah, you're tiny, yeah.

Speaker 2 56:09

Okay, when we're talking pole shift, are we talking like you know? We're talking 180? Yeah, Wow.

Speaker 1 56:18

Yeah, and like there's actually some. What do flat earthers think about the pole shift? Well, it's just like the coin flipping over, yeah.

Speaker 2 56:26

That sounds worse. All the water's going to dump out.

Speaker 1 56:29

Yeah Well, no, we'll move over to the water on the bottom side.

Speaker 2 56:34

Hmm, I see.

Speaker 1 56:36

No, you can see graphics like 3D renderings and stuff. Let me look this up. 3d renderings of Earth's.

Speaker 2 56:47

Oh man, this isn't even from some random, this is from NASA.

Speaker 1 56:51

No, that's what I'm saying. They believe it's happened before and they have actual GIFs animations.

Speaker 2 57:02

They think it happens around every 300 000 years. Yep, wow, what would that do, uh?

Speaker 1 57:06

it'd annihilate the world, apparently, according to some yeah, like what's the.

Speaker 2 57:11

I mean that's definitely like possible, but what's like the, what's the, what's the more medium temperature swap? It's just.

Speaker 1 57:20

Here's the thing. No one has any freaking clue. They don't know, it's before recorded history. There's not anything in the Sumerian texts that are like, yeah, and passed down over the generations was the story of when the north was once the south and the south was once the north. Wow, and also maybe it's just a buttload of bunk.

Speaker 2 57:43

Yeah, you know what I mean yeah, makes the mason dixon line feel very, uh, unimportant. Yeah, that's as far as the growing up where I was from, that was the. That was the most important thing about north and south, the old mason dixon line. This is. This is a whole, nother, whole, nother issue.

Speaker 1 58:04

We got going on here yeah, have you really never heard anything like talks about like the pole shift?

Speaker 2 58:08

I think I like now that you bring it up, like I have heard of it, but it's just something that I just so often have been like same thing with, like I've heard that you know what a sun turns into a red giant. You know what I mean, but just I'm also like yeah but like we'll be way gone, Exactly yeah. Just be kind of like, yeah and well, balls, you know, what else can I do?

Speaker 1 58:29

On livesciencecom. They say that let's look see here. Scientists say it's the weekend between phase that would be roughest on earthlings.

Speaker 2 58:42

Earthlings.

Speaker 1 58:43

Yeah, it's like the week in between phase when we don't have a north and south gradient Supercomputer models here. This is actually horrifying. Do we blow up?

Speaker 2 58:53

Does our blood boil. What happens, dude, I'm going to show you this. No wonder that freaking alien autistic guy is trying to get to mars right now, dude, he's like. You mean elon musk. We said alien autistic guy.

Speaker 1 59:09

I legit went through like four or six people I've seen on youtube recently. I'm like.

Speaker 2 59:13

Which one is he talking about? He's trying to get to mars. He's like we gotta get to mars people. I've been telling you it's important.

Speaker 1 59:20

Well, mars poles can't reverse because Mars has no polarity, hence why there's no atmosphere to protect, like there's no atmosphere because the solar flares from the sun have stripped it away, like the polarization of those flares have pulled away the ionization of the atmosphere. So you need poles for there to be an atmosphere and the poles of Earth we've all seen.

Speaker 1 59:46

They show the loopy line images of how the poles create these loops around Earth that slowly get bigger and further out and further out, and when solar flares come they bend around those loops and then, like you know, go around the other side, and so if you look at, uh, you know when we're, when we're in between reversals, right and uh, you know we're looking at like there's clearly a north, clearly a south, and like that helps, you know, with the currents and the atmosphere and uh, both ocean currents and atmospheric currents, but also our magnetic essentially protection from positive and negative charged ions in space coming towards us that would usually destroy us. And then there's the image of during the reversal, what it's going to look like, and it's just freaking spaghetti.

Speaker 2 1:00:35

I'm looking at that right now. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 1:00:38

It's just like so just take that up and, like you know, shake it up in a bottle, uh, and every.

Speaker 2 1:00:44

There's like dropping. It's like this, like a bottle of coke on the shelf at walmart. Yeah, it's fine, drop some mentos at that bitch and see if it's fine after that. Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 1:00:58

No, it, no, it's pretty bonkers. Some people suggest that the continentals, like the platonic shells, would shift. There's a lot of talk of, like, you know, there'd be big earthquakes, there'd be tsunamis. Of course, as a result of those earthquakes, there'd be massive volcanoes going off because of essentially, the whole idea is, if these shifted the crust of the earth, you know what makes up our continental shelves would move, and then all the stuff that comes from that would happen. So earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis.

Speaker 2 1:01:30

Yeah, Like any any apocryphal text.

Speaker 1 1:01:35

True, true, true.

Speaker 2 1:01:39

Oh, my gosh and uh. So how come we're always like the meteors, knocked out the dinosaurs? What about this? Yeah, no, dude. If this happens every 300,000 years, it seems like you could.

Speaker 1 1:01:56

That's the thing is right. I think the reason why they don't think this would happen is like because if it was happening every 300,000 years, dinosaurs have been around for you know millions, hundreds of millions of years and so it was like, because that's also the thing is like if you follow the scientific theory of Pangea and how we have our carnage today.

Speaker 1 1:02:17

Originally Pangea Pangea wasn't the first landmass. The concept is that essentially right before the dinosaurs boomed into existence, all the landmasses were just still floating around and then they shifted together into Pangea, kind of scrunching up, and then we saw the first really really highly complex animals on Earth come into existence. And then there was the essentially like Pangea breaking apart into Cretaceous, and then Pangea breaking apart into no sorry, was it Trassic, then Jurassic, then Cretaceous, which is why there's dinosaur bones in Antarctica, because Antarctica used to be actually a tropical climate much further towards the equator.

Speaker 2 1:03:03

So if the people who are saying this could happen and then everything's dying, the scientists, the scientists.

Speaker 1 1:03:18

Right, dude. Imagine you got to be sorry. Let me just say before this is a quick thing imagine you could be a scientist about something that's not been proven at all to be real at all, like you're. Like, yeah, I'm a scientist about the polar shifts, and you're like, yeah, but like science didn't exist then yeah, it's like yeah, but we're pretty sure it's real.

Speaker 2 1:03:37

Like it's just kind of crazy to me that this could be your whole career, and just to be like, and I don't want to be right, but I really think I'm right, you know, yeah, okay, so if it happens every 300,000 years and it's deadly, are they saying, is the thought that it wipes out humanity because of our, how much we care about technology and how much we rely on it? Or are they saying like it's a full, like just a full wipe?

Speaker 2 1:04:09

no on nature, because because I'd say then that I'd mean like, how did if, if the same people who are saying this could happen are also the same people who also then are going to say you know, 100% ascribed to, like evolution.

Speaker 1 1:04:24

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:04:24

It'd be like well, those weak ass monkeys would have died every 300,000 years. So how do we get you know so they, if it took millions and billions of years to get to this point? Is the shift that big a deal? So, is it what's going to this point? Is the shift that big a deal? So, is it what's going to kill us from the shift?

Speaker 1 1:04:41

I think what I think the big thing is that, like, like, the theory is that it's not a global mass extinction, it's that it's just a wipe of human civilization.

Speaker 1 1:04:51

Right, like it's, like, it's like we're not getting ground shaking and oh there's tsunamis on the coast, Right, but it's not, like you know, it's not actual like America splitting in half Right Now. There's kind of like a little bit of a thing where, like you know, people are saying it's kind of like quote unquote, like almost 2012, because in the movie 2012. Did you watch that movie? I can't remember. Dude, the 2020 2012 disaster movie where they're like it's the Mayan calendar that predicted it. No, you're thinking the day after tomorrow.

Speaker 2 1:05:23

Yeah. With the super storm with Jake Gyllenhaal and Dennis.

Speaker 1 1:05:26

Quaid Burn all those books.

Speaker 2 1:05:27

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:05:28

Yeah, yeah, that was a good movie. I liked that one a lot.

Speaker 2 1:05:32

I didn't watch 2012.

Speaker 1 1:05:33

We should watch 2012. It's like it's like it's worth it for woody harrelson's performance in the cgi, like it's one of those one movies where you're like, damn, this is some good cgi, like that's what the money was spent on, not the script, but uh, the. The whole thing with that one is that the polls reverse, they flip, which was predicted by the mayan calendar, which is why the mayan calendar ends in december or whatever 2012 it was.

Speaker 2 1:05:59

It was it was may 21st 2012. Yeah, whatever it was. Yeah, just because I remember the Mayan calendar, which is why the Mayan calendar ends in December or whatever 2012. It was May 21st 2012. Yeah, whatever it was. Yeah, Because I remember that was my high school graduation or something was near there and I was getting ready for it.

Speaker 1 1:06:09

Oh yeah, I remember I bought some water. I was like, well, in case it goes wrong, I got two cases of water in my car. I was a high schooler. I was like I'll live in the apocalypse, baby. That's the biggest thing about being a high schooler is just like you're like I'll survive.

Speaker 2 1:06:25

When we get to the end of this. I do have a question for you. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 1:06:28

But anyways. So that was the thing. And like what happens in that movie is Yellowstone goes off because of the polarity.

Speaker 2 1:06:35

I was just about to ask about yellowstone going off from this, so that's like the big thing is like they don't think that it's the pole shifting.

Speaker 1 1:06:43

That would be usually like a mass extinction event, but because of the other things that are synced up to go off, for sure it could be a mass extinction event. Now, in that movie one of the things that happens is overnight the ice shelves melt away from Yellowstone and the earth is completely flooded and everything is shifting tectonically. And now the tallest mountain in Africa is an island sticking out of the ocean, and that's where they're like, like we got to get to this island and it's like this all happened in like two days, and you know what I mean. And like, of course it's not, it wouldn't be to that scale, probably from like what people are saying, what scientists are saying, anyways, that's, that's the big thing, right, is like, is the pulse shifting?

Speaker 1 1:07:34

Uh, end of the world event? No, but it probably, every single time it happens, causes some tsunamis that are going to be, for sure, a huge headache and stuff, but what's never existed on Earth before a civilization entirely relying on electronic infrastructure that is very much sensitive to polarity. And I think like that's a big thing, right, it's like we'd go back to Stone Age stuff for sure. Like it wouldn't end, like that would be the quote unquote mass extinction for humans, right, it'd be like we'd go from a 7 billion and something population to a 2 billion in the matter of a year because of just the damaged infrastructure and isolation and starvation. So, all right, ask your questions so one.

Speaker 2 1:08:26

I'm pretending to have the answers. I just asked chat gpt where's the safest place to live during a pole shift?

Speaker 1 1:08:33

chat gpt says your mom's basement, yeah, it'd be like I'd I won't care it's like I have no stake in this. I'll be dead.

Speaker 2 1:08:44

Upload yourself to me, um, let's see. It says hypothetical safety criteria for a pole shift one high elevation, but not volcanic, um to avoid tsunamis. Example Example eastern slopes of the Rocky Mountains. Hey yo, colorado or western Montana. It's obviously not factoring in the Yellowstone issue. Yeah, because we're dead in like. I think we're dead in like three and a half seconds.

Speaker 1 1:09:12

No, no, no, it's fast, bro, you dummy. No, dude, it's fast. No, it's not that fast, it's fast as hell. No, it's not that fast, it's not that fast, it's instantaneous bro. Oh my gosh bro, no dude, that's actually dude. You gotta watch the movie now, um 2012 there's literally like a scene where they're out running the ash cloud at like an airport and it's awesome bro, it's so sick.

Speaker 2 1:09:34

Regardless of timing, it's just like we are dead If the Wyoming theories, if the Yellowstone, well, yellowstone's not in Wyoming, yellowstone's up in Montana, along the edge with Montana, and you mean. Yellowstone National Park.

Speaker 1 1:09:48

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:09:49

It's in Wyoming.

Speaker 1 1:09:51

Oh, is it? Yeah, I thought Yellowstone was Montana, idaho.

Speaker 2 1:09:54

Well, the Yellowstone, so Yellowstone National Park's Wyoming, but then you have the Yellowstone River and the Yellowstone is a larger area that does encompass Idaho, wyoming Montana, but also you want to get inland away from fault lines.

Speaker 1 1:10:19

I'm telling you, dude, we're dead.

Speaker 2 1:10:20

In1, 2.1 nanoseconds. You're just dead. Your eyeballs come out like you're in.

Speaker 1 1:10:24

I'm going to ask Chad GPT now.

Faith Journeys and Testimonies

Speaker 2 1:10:26

In the, when they opened the freaking Ark of the Covenant, indiana Jones, face melt. So get high, get inland, away from fault lines. Three a stable climate and with freshwater access. Four, low population density. Five stay away from nuclear facilities. Oh, come on, chatgbt. We knew all this stuff already. But hey, close enough. And then summary ideal safe zone is a well-elevated, inland, geographical stable location with reliable water, all right, such as the Southern Appalachians. Dude, the Appalachians Would be sick. Dude, they're going to live on. They're just going to Abandon these hollows and all the fire and brimstone, like revelation preaching, that's been going on in those mountains for years. It's just going to be proven to the top. They're going to be proven to the top. They're gonna be like we've been telling you, been telling you, um, okay.

Speaker 1 1:11:23

so my question would be from it, you know, all right.

Speaker 2 1:11:34

So six to twelve hours, six to twelve hours you dinghies to go from the yellowstone national park to den Colorado Still dead Bro six to 12 hours.

Speaker 1 1:11:41

We've got plenty of time to leave. I need a plane.

Speaker 2 1:11:46

You should watch the movie. Okay, a point of pride and a reality check.

Speaker 1 1:11:56

When the polls shift. Is Mick going to survive? Yeah, exactly, there's no doubt in my mind that this is not a problem for me. Yeah, dude. No, I've been slowly chipping away at the prepper supplies, right, I mean, what are we talking about? How long? How long does it survive? I don't know 24 hours, for sure, six months.

Speaker 1 1:12:21

Probably a year, I don't know. Man, that's a lot of walking to the local lake picking up buckets of water walking. I might be like after a year I might be like, man, dan, this is a lot of work. I'm just going to go fight some kind of mutant bear.

Speaker 2 1:12:40

Just go out into the woods and not come back, and that's where I feel. I know it's not true, but I know that if I was butt ass naked in the woods and a grizzly bear came after me, I'd win. I know I'm wrong, but in my heart I would win and I think that is I would lose, if I was butt ass naked.

Speaker 1 1:13:00

I would lose in R&B.

Speaker 2 1:13:02

I know, but there just has to be that piece. There's just like this little thing in me you gotta have that dog in you. It is the reason why, after so many polar shifts, we're still here, baby we didn't get knocked out.

Speaker 1 1:13:17

Our monkey ancestors went. I don't give a f dude.

Speaker 2 1:13:18

We're still here, baby. We didn't get knocked out. Our monkey ancestors went whoop, whoop, whoop. Yeah, I don't give a F dude, I'm making it through this, they rediscovered fire again. Just that, not even a will to survive, but just a belief you will survive. There's something in there and, like I said, I know I'd be dead.

Speaker 1 1:13:33

I know I'd be dead. Well, you don't know.

Speaker 2 1:13:34

I'd be dead. I know I'd be dead.

Speaker 1 1:13:35

Well, you don't know, but I also know I would win.

Speaker 2 1:13:39

It's a predicament, it's a conundrum in my brain, it's the acceptance that it's okay if you die.

Speaker 1 1:13:44

It's like, yeah, I mean, if I die, I die, right, you can't change the fact of death. That's what I'm saying there's a hundred but also the mentality of like, but I'm going to, I am going to live because I'm not going to roll over. And I think that's like one of the most tragic things about being married is accepting that all wives will die, because all wives believe they will die.

Speaker 1 1:14:10

I've never met anyone whose wife was like, oh yeah, I'd live. Like every one of my friends who, when we've had this conversation hanging out all of their wives and Billie Jean have said like, oh, I'd be dead so fast and it's like okay, but like, could you not? Could you have a little bit of initiative here, like I'm putting in a lot of effort to make sure you don't die.

Speaker 2 1:14:29

And what's wild is? They won't die.

Speaker 1 1:14:32

I will die, but I don't think I'll die.

Speaker 2 1:14:36

Making sure they live. No, get infected, kill gangrenous and die out in the corner crying with a man cold.

Speaker 1 1:14:43

That's what I'm saying. That's why I need you to specify time. I will live the first few months but, I, will get sick and die.

Speaker 2 1:14:51

I will live on. I will repopulate the earth single-handedly.

Speaker 1 1:14:56

I don't think Mace Windu is going to be all for that. Wait, how can you repopulate the Earth single-handedly?

Speaker 2 1:15:02

We're going to have to get creative with the tools at hand.

Speaker 1 1:15:06

We're going to have to adopt.

Speaker 2 1:15:10

It can be reversed, I don't know, with sticks and stones, as I'm saying in a post-polar shift world. In a post-polar shift world.

Speaker 1 1:15:18

Imagine I have a book and I'm just opening the bioclinic guide on vasectomies, when you're just letting me take a sharp stone to try to undo this.

Speaker 2 1:15:32

I think we could do it, man. Hey, macgyver did a lot of stuff with a paperclip. Get some fuel tubing, get a fuel line off. I don't think Guyver ever had sex. I'll take an old that was McGruber. He had no chance. Take a fuel line off an old Toro lawnmower, take a little piece of that, reconnect the lines. We're back in action, doing what you need to do for the human population. You know, I've got a duty, I've got a duty to uphold and, like I said I, there's no way I will live.

Speaker 1 1:16:09

I will not but in my heart I know I will okay, but come on like legitimately, realistically let's talk about like like if it's not if it's not truly end of civilization and it's not like all your neighbors are just dropping off like flies. You know I mean we're talking like, oh yeah, you know. Billions die because that's where majority of people live, are along the coastlines, and when there's no planes flying and no cars working, it's going to be hard to get out of the coastlines before the tsunami catches up and no ships bringing you food.

Speaker 1 1:16:41

Yeah, but let's say like, predominantly, if you're not living on the, if you're not within 20 miles of the coast, you're just like all right, I got no power and now I need to live. So it's like we're talking starvation. The number one thing that's going to go away is food and clean water. Good thing we have structures that are pretty hardy. Here's the thing. Look at even cheapo apartments or townhouses, those things. They're going to be up there for a long time. Your 10-story, 20-story skyscrapers probably not as much because of the level of maintenance they need every single year. And that's not even like I'm not even talking about like poorly built ones, like a lot of people don't realize how much infrastructure gets replaced in a skyscraper every year. But you know you can live in your cave, which is currently your home or townhome home, for probably the rest of your life without that structure coming down on you. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 1:17:43

So your your six weeks, your biggest priority is going to be food and water. So, pat, you're a hunter. You live near some fresh water, some of the freshest water in the nation. What do you think? Are you staying? One, I guess. Are you staying where you're at? And two, are you? Are you thinking you're going to? You're going to make it.

Speaker 2 1:18:04

I think I'd say I honestly don't have good infrastructure in place. On a personal level. Now, I think I'm better set up than most. For sure, for sure. But uh, the um. So excuse me. That being said, there is a, there is a the the plan is the compound which would be at old dad's place, your dad's dude.

Speaker 1 1:18:35

You know what that's a journey it is I also think that's kind of the journey Mace Windu and I would take, not to your dad's place, but to, you'd take my wife to my dad's place.

Speaker 2 1:18:44

What you said, mace Windu.

Speaker 1 1:18:47

Oh, no, no, no, sorry, I'm just kidding, that's a play that Billie Jean and I have as well. Billie Jean's not my lover no, billy jean's, my lover, I know, but we're also heading south in that direction in that neck of the woods.

Speaker 2 1:19:02

I just quote michael jackson oh yeah, that's why I call her billy jean, I know okay, anyways, the yeah, so I mean because I, from a the comms, have gone down perspective. Okay, next step is to circle the wagons, which would be, um, everybody in the family goes to dad's place.

Speaker 1 1:19:20

Everyone, every family will just become the Hatfield and McCoys again. It will become tribal of.

Speaker 2 1:19:29

I'm a McCoy and you're a Hatfield. If you want to live, you need to become a Mormon, or get friends with a Mormon, because they're stocked, bro, they're ready.

Speaker 1 1:19:39

They're the primary purch, bro, they're ready.

Speaker 2 1:19:42

They're the primary purchaser of the bunker homes. They make preppers look like jokes, dude. They're like what are you talking about? We've been doing this since day one. They are prepped out the yang.

Speaker 1 1:19:52

It's not because they're even worried about the apocalypse, it's just expensive to feed 11 mouths.

Speaker 2 1:19:57

Yeah, I know They've got to have somewhere to keep all that Costco food, but actually a big, big part of it is they're post-tribulationists.

Speaker 1 1:20:05

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:20:06

So they believe. You know that they got to stick around after the second coming.

Speaker 1 1:20:15

Do you think that too?

Speaker 2 1:20:16

I think there's a stronger argument for pre-tribulation.

Speaker 1 1:20:22

Like we get taken up Right and we don't starve. Yeah, no, no, I don't want to sidetrack you, I was just curious.

Speaker 2 1:20:31

Now I do Like in high school I was like I think it's pre, but I kind of hope it's post.

Speaker 1 1:20:36

I hope it's post. You know what I mean. I hope it's post. I hope it's post. You know what I mean, I hope it's post.

Speaker 2 1:20:41

This is back to the conversation of the. I think I'll survive the. The survivors Like I'm like. I hope it's post.

Speaker 1 1:20:46

What's there to lose? Post tribulation, I die, I go to heaven. Exactly, you get to find tribulation.

Speaker 2 1:20:53

I don't even get to test it. I don't even get to use all this crap. I bought, dude, exactly. I bought so much crap for this. It better happen.

Speaker 1 1:21:00

Let me see if my water filtration works.

Speaker 2 1:21:05

But yeah, no, the plan is to get family together and then from there, you know, I don't know, do what you can, but it's like the Grow potatoes.

Speaker 1 1:21:18

Potatoes grow good in Coloradoado. Man, they do, they do. Corn is a waste in colorado. That's one of the crops that is like I just don't get when people grow corn in colorado.

Speaker 2 1:21:28

We grow unless you're out east towards, like nebraska and I'll say this on potatoes we grow potatoes in our tiny garden which is literally um, let's say, 20 square feet. Yeah, sure, that's generous. We grow potatoes in that Pretty much year-round, right, not year-round, we don't grow them year-round, but when we grab them. The big thing about potatoes is they won't necessarily grow well year-round, but they last so long also.

Speaker 1 1:21:58

I know that when and when we were growing them, we left them in the dirt.

Speaker 2 1:22:03

I'll come back the next year, yeah you didn't, we didn't have to like replant. And so I will say, from a 20 square foot area, we, um, we fill up like half a milk crate with potatoes, which. So if you put that on a larger scale and not most people don't have this like capability, but if you could plant an acre of potatoes, holy smokes that would. That would get you through feed your fam, you know yeah, have you ever.

Speaker 1 1:22:35

What is? What is that called the, the Hebrew potato, or the?

Speaker 2 1:22:39

Israel, potato Israel, yeah, those, ones are even hardier. Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:22:43

They taste more like dirt, I guess, but they're even hardier and they grow in sand. And I'm like that's freaking bonkers to me. No, man, I agree too. Yeah, I think if we're talking like full on, like zombie virus, 99% of humanity is gone. I don't know, man, I don't even know if I'd try to stay alive at that point, right.

Speaker 2 1:23:05

You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 1:23:06

Like I wouldn't be suicidal but I think I'd be going like blaze of glory stuff, like I don't really want to see people eating people.

Speaker 1 1:23:15

But if you know we're talking like a pole shift and the only change is like now there's no money and it's like bartering with you know, gold or bottle caps and uh, you know it's finding a community, or just like accepting like this is your community and you're probably, no, never gonna leave the town you're in currently for the rest of your life. That's one thing why I really like where I live now, where we live now, I guess because we have such a good, like I would say, natural infrastructure for like survival. I do think the most brutal thing would be winters, right, but I do I think that's just solved with building viking lodges, you know. I mean just be like all right guys, everybody every single day for winter is sleeping in this giant lodge. We're all just getting together to drink beer until we sleep through the winter and we'll work through the spring, and I think that would be. I think that would make a big comeback in colorado for sure you know I mean viking lodge.

Speaker 1 1:24:22

Yeah, because what are you gonna do in the winter anyways?

Speaker 2 1:24:26

that's true. If there's no power, I might still go skiing. You know, you gotta, you gotta do something for fun, maybe that's so many calories to burn.

Speaker 1 1:24:35

It's true, it's uh, so many taters.

Speaker 2 1:24:37

Jerusalem, artichoke jerusalem artichoke yeah, that's right, but it's basically an israel potato israel potato, you know jerusalem artichoke.

Speaker 2 1:24:45

No, yeah, I think. Uh, it's funny, like I. I think my general plan is which this will make so many people who like actually try to get ready for stuff so mad is like my plan is to figure it out once it's time now. That being said, part of that's because because there's so many unknowns and you don't actually know how it's gonna, what's gonna be affected. It's like um the classic. You know the plan a is only going to be good for about 10 minutes.

Speaker 2 1:25:20

You know, like type of thing, and so I think the ability to figure it out is important and, yeah, you could you know, prepare and do whatever you can and have like all your things together, but then ultimately it's like the, the knowledge skill and knowledge is like is paramount compared to uh, I'd say it's equal to, if not more important than, um, like supplies, preparedness, you know, and at least in the longterm, I agree for the most part.

Speaker 1 1:25:53

I do think there are some supplies, though, that can just be like universally beneficial. Um and a big, like one of those I can just be universally beneficial, and a big one of those. I'm just going to say it. We're not sponsored, of course. We're not sponsored by any of these things, but these are things that you can find on.

Speaker 1 1:26:11

Amazon through our links. Fidget spinners H2O Go. It's called H2O Go. What is that? It is a small device that fits in your pocket of your jeans, fits in the pouch of a fanny pack or in your backpack. You put salt in one side and then you put water in the other and it automatically, when you presses the button, uses its onboard power to generate enough uh, essentially bleach to purify two liters of water, and that's as much as it generates. So you just let it generate it and then you just let it drip into your water and it lasts forever.

Speaker 1 1:26:56

Because the amount of salt and water that it takes to generate that little like tiny bit of bleach is so minuscule. You just leave it topped off with salt. And then also, all of them are built in with solar panels on the back of them. Is it like? It just never dies? You just leave it like if you're cleaning water, just leave it with the panel up, so that way it's charging. You can clean more water tomorrow or later on today, and it's so clutch. It's easily the best water purification device that exists and I think big water is just like or big prepper, you know, is just trying to censor it Because I just don't understand why it doesn't get more coverage.

Speaker 1 1:27:37

It's like you read the reviews and it works flawlessly. Yeah, it's like no one's ever had it breaking down or failing them in, like you know, when they need it for camping or whatever, um, and yeah, it's not gonna purify your gunky, muddy, disease ridden blood, ridden gasoline. Uh, you know tainted water, like you're still gonna have to filter that out through some charcoal and you're still going to have to like filter through some sand and boil it. But this, this will actually kill like all the bacteria in it. But it's not going to do anything for like the impurity, like physical impurities, like mercury or lead or something like that. You'd still want to do a boil drip process to leave those behind. But all I said, it's like one of those things that's like if I'm in like a hurry and I'm like looking at this river water, I'm like, damn, I need some water and I know that if I'm in a survival situation, I'm not fucking worried about lead poisoning 20 years down the road. You know what I mean. I I'm like, I'm like I'll deal with the fucking, I'll deal with the lead and mercury in this water. Uh, what I need is to make sure I don't have, you know, diarrhea for the next three days Cause I've drank some water out of a river and this works to cover that. Right, and it's so mobile, uh, but it's called H2O go.

Speaker 1 1:28:54

It's so easy. You can find them on Amazon. They're great. I have one. It works really good. You don't even taste it when you put it in your water, mm-hmm. So anyways that. And then food is the other one. Like I think I mean you're a big hunter. You know what I mean and I think that's like a big thing in and of itself is just having the know-. But the other stuff is like it's so easy, man, to just like buy an extra like six bucks worth of canned food that is high calorie and just start stocking that up. Like you can honestly just buy like canned fruit and the calories in canned fruit because of the natural sugars and stuff is just so high.

Speaker 1 1:29:34

Yeah, it's just so high.

Speaker 2 1:29:37

Yeah, and I think the canned way to go is going to be like hunting is important in your skills to procure food, but what's wild about wildlife in America? It is so heavily protected it will be wiped out in a year oh, dude, the, uh, the what was it?

Speaker 1 1:29:58

department of energy, I think, when they did their official study and report on what would happen with a uh total blackout in america if the grid just went down, whether from a solar flare or not, any mp strike. Uh. They said that uh 99 of the native deer population in America would be gone within the first six weeks.

Speaker 2 1:30:24

From people shooting them.

Speaker 1 1:30:25

Yeah, from people just going out and hunting deer, a lot of people don't have the understanding that if whatever happens doesn't wipe out a lot of people right away, you will never see a deer, an elk, elk or a rabbit again.

Speaker 2 1:30:41

yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 1:30:42

I mean like, like those will be gone within the first year, for sure yeah, yeah, it's like it's a.

Prepping and Future Planning

Speaker 2 1:30:46

It's pretty wild, like the you know. Go back to daniel boone days. Like the population density wise compared to animals. Like yeah, you could go out and just like the world was your oyster and forage and hunting stuff. But like at this point, if we didn't have like extreme rules in place, there would be basically no wildlife besides some squirrels and birds and in america and well, which into that case, too, it's like.

Speaker 1 1:31:15

The argument is, then like also, though if we don't have a scenario where a mass amount of people, like majority of the population's, wiped out, then you're in a scenario where you probably don't need to hunt that much, because you're in a scenario where majority of people are still alive.

Speaker 1 1:31:28

you just don't have power right and, like you, don't have a government. So therefore, you just make your own little town and keep your, keep your pigs and cows alive, keep your chickens alive, and then you don't have to go hunt a ton. Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 2 1:31:43

I mean, you brought up the having the salt piece and I was like, man, that's great, but you don't got no salt. What are you going to do with salt? And then I was like I was looking up, like you know the a map of like where all the salt mines are in america. Yeah, it's just funny, like, because it's just the things you don't think of like we forget that entire salt expires though no, no it doesn't.

Speaker 2 1:32:07

but you can have it for a long time. But like we forget that the whole world used to go to war and fight and stand up huge companies and build entire ships and have camel trains go in places yeah, just for spices.

Speaker 1 1:32:23

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:32:24

You know like. Same spice you know, just for like those things.

Speaker 1 1:32:28

Give me that cardigan, not cardigan. What's that spice called Gardigan no LB out.

Speaker 2 1:32:36

I don't know. I don't know what you're trying to say.

Speaker 1 1:32:40

There's a spice that sounds like cardigan, but it's not cardigan. Fuck, give me that paprika.

Speaker 2 1:32:49

Oh man, there's one near us, we can go get that thing.

Speaker 1 1:32:56

Anyways.

Speaker 2 1:32:58

Yeah, the it's as far as the polar shift goes. It's funny too, I mean, where it is all like theory, you know, and but who knows? Until it happens, we don't know. And if it does happen, good thing. You've been putting into like a 401k or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1 1:33:17

Yeah, yeah, see I, I that's my, that's my two hedges right? Yeah I prepare for, not the end of the world by taking wheelbarrows of my income and putting them in investments. I prepare for the end of the world by taking the other wheelbarrows of money and buying canned food and mres. Yeah and uh, I live poor now, but gosh damn it. The world doesn't end. I'll be rich when I retire and gosh damn it. If the world doesn't, I'll be rich when it ends. You know what I?

Speaker 2 1:33:50

mean, oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Oh man, I think, uh, it's, I think, the prepping thing. I feel like I always feel like I need to do more and at the same time, I'm like if I go all in, I'm going to lose my mind. I'm going to be doing the full.

Speaker 1 1:34:16

Who needs their mind Just going full bore on. Yeah, I'm going to be, you know, like doing the full, like you know who needs their mind.

Speaker 2 1:34:20

Just like you know, going full boron yeah but come on, pat, who needs their mind?

Speaker 1 1:34:26

What's your mind ever done for you?

Speaker 2 1:34:28

I know I know, but we'll see how it goes when the polar shift happens here and for Spain. I mean, uh, this, this article saying it was induced by atmospheric vibrations yeah it sounds like pole shifts to me. That's pretty broad, but yeah, oh man all right.

Speaker 1 1:34:51

Well, hey, this is a pretty eclectic episode. A lot of a lot of topics covered. Oh yeah, I hope that it was uh of entertainment and interest to you, hope that you got some cool information to go look up, seek out and kind of follow up on. But uh, as always, ken, we appreciate listening, we appreciate your effort to support us, whether that's uh on our patreon to see making Pat feet pics, whether that's on our links right to support us through primary arms or Amazon and all that stuff. We appreciate you all. It goes a long ways. Ultimately, though, we're just thankful for you for listening. Like. Comment. Subscribe, dislike. Leave a comment. Let us know how much we suck whatever. Just give us the feedback so that. Let us know how much we suck whatever. Just give us the feedback so that way we know how we're doing.

Speaker 2 1:35:46

Pat.

Speaker 1 1:35:51

Till next time. Sweet, I got a piss. I think I was thinking of coriander, coriander. I'll leave this in there for the end, so that you're redeemed, it's coriander.

Speaker 2 1:35:56

I'll leave this in there for the end, so that you're redeemed it's coriander.