Rocky Mountain Cold Cases

Start the New Year with a Canadian Killer.

January 04, 2024 Adam & Rachel Episode 20
Rocky Mountain Cold Cases
Start the New Year with a Canadian Killer.
Show Notes Transcript

Unlocking New Beginnings: Dive into a captivating podcast episode exploring New Year's resolutions, fascinating insights into global celebrations, and a gripping narrative unraveling a complex murder case with multiple victims. Discover the secrets, stories, and resolutions that will shape your year ahead in this intriguing conversation transcription.

This is Rocky Mountain cold cases. I'm Rachel and that's Adam.

I'm Adam, and that is Rachel. And when this episode comes out, it'll be the new year. Yeah.

2024. Yes. And if you haven't subscribed to this channel, please do so.

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Go find us there. You can find the link to the episode in that description there as well. Yeah.

For the new year. Do you have any New Year's resolutions? Lose some weight? That's probably. No, that's like, everybody's.

No, but I'm already trying to do that. So I don't know where I do photography and stuff. I don't know if the audience even knows that I'm not trying to plug it at all, even.

Wow, another shameless plug. No, I was just thinking, like, there are certain things I'd like to do at the beginning of every year, and one is start a lightroom catalog so that it's like a new lightroom catalog for the year. Okay.

Because then it keeps lightroom a little more clean and whatever. So your resolution is to start the lightroom catalog like you do every year. I haven't been great at it.

Yeah, it's been like, oh, I should have done that, and I didn't do it. It was something I was thinking about today. So that way everything that I take pictures of whatever throughout 2024 is in its own catalog.

It's a lot easier to pull through images and whatnot. Anyway, that sounds like a pretty easy resolution. You just make it new.

You just click like new. Yeah. You close one catalog and then you start opening.

Yeah. It doesn't sound hard. No, it's not.

I don't understand why you haven't been doing it anyway. So it's like one of those things that's like, in hindsight, I should have done this and I can start doing it now. Yeah.

Well, I have some fun facts about New Year's. Oh, yeah. No, just kidding.

No, they're fine. So goodhousekeeping.com has a 35 fun new Year's facts to brush up on the holidays history.

I shall read you all 35. All 35? I'm just kidding. Like, are they long, each one, or.

No, I'm not reading you all 35. Okay. All right.

This one here says over 50 tons of trash are left in Times Square after the New Year's Eve celebration. 50 tons of trash. Tons.

And this also goes on to say about 3000 pounds of that is just confetti. Wow. You know what's crazy? That gravity is a thing? No, I just.

I'm not trying to really dive into the politics of stuff. Oh, no. But I feel like I was just going to go like your red blues in your blue states.

Red and blue states. I always felt like the blue states are more environmentally sound or thought conscious or whatever you want to call it. And it's like your guys are leaving because New York is a blue state.

Okay. And they're leaving 50 tons of trash. Yeah, it's fine.

It's a lot of trash. They're so close to the ocean. Well, how dare them.

It's probably not the worst thing that we put in the ocean. Confetti. Yeah.

I don't know. We got a lot of plastics in there, you know, like the microplastics and stuff now. Yeah.

We don't need to be adding to it. Yeah. Okay.

This one. I really like this one. Okay.

New Year's is my least favorite holiday. Really? I hate it. It's stupid.

I hate it because I don't party. So I'm not going to these bars and stuff, getting super drunk and stuff. And I get tired by like 10:00 at night.

So I'm not staying up till midnight. And really it's to watch the clock. It's just a holiday to stare at the clock.

And I can do that at work and get paid to do it. I never really liked the holiday. I hate New Year's.

I think it's dumb. I think it's dumb. So when I find something I really like about it.

So the confetti, the 3000 pounds of confetti that's dropped in Times Square, they all hold little messages on them. Oh, really? Yeah. So the confetti and Times Square.

My bad. I made it like a bad thing. The confetti in Times Square has thousands of people's wishes written on them.

In 2015, wishfetti became a part of the tradition. People write their wishes for the new year and submit them to the wish wall in Times Square or online. And those wishes are turned into the confetti that falls over the crowd at midnight.

They're being showered in wishes. Okay, that's kind of. And I love that I want to be showered in wishes.

That's pretty fun. 3000 pounds of wishes. I'm all about that.

That might hurt. No, not if you scatter it well enough. Yeah.

Wish Fetty. Do they shoot it out of like a cannon? Genuinely don't know, because I hate New Year's. So I've never really paid attention to Times Square New Year's party.

Most New Year's resolutions aren't taken too seriously. Nearly 80% of resolutions made at the beginning of the year are forgotten by February. No, I believe that.

And I feel like I've heard similar statistics, like saying that most people, and I think this comes down to people that have no harm, no foul, if this is you or not, but whatever. But because you've waited till you've procrastinated, the goal already to wait till New Year's to start it. Like your catalog thing.

No, that's different. It makes no sense to start a new catalog in August. Well, yeah, and then you're like, your tax.

Because it's a business type thing. Your taxes started the new. Our book started the beginning of the year.

But what I'm getting at, though, is because sometimes if you have annual things that you need to do, but losing weight or doing those typical New Year's resolutions, why did you wait till New Year's to start it? Because it's like you procrastinated it already, so it must not be that important. And by the time February rolls around, you're just like, yeah, well, I mean, I procrastinated it for pretty much the last eight months to start it, and it really wasn't that important. So whatever.

It's like how people, when they start a diet, they're like, well, I'm going to start on Sunday, beginning of the week. And it's like, why? You can start any day. It's not like the diet is going to be more or less effective, depending on what day of the week you start.

Yeah, you can start it Tuesday afternoon. This one here. The first Times Square New Year's party was thrown for a newspaper.

The annual tradition of gathering in Times Square for New Year's started as a party to celebrate the opening of the New York Times building in 1904. Over 200,000 people attended. You don't like that one? Okay, fine.

I'm sorry. I was dealing with a little bit of heartburn in the moment. I was like, nice.

Yeah. Though the parties raged on, there wasn't a ball drop until 1907. The New York Times ball drop, which I always was like, why is there a ball drop? Fireworks were previously used to welcome the new year, but they were banned because burning embers were falling on the crowd, which I say, suck it up, enjoy those burning embers in the cold and watch your fireworks.

Yeah. Are you not paying attention? Well, I mean, burning embers floating to you. I mean, there's not a whole lot you can do to take a fly swatter.

I would endure the embers to watch fireworks, but that's just me. How close are you to the fireworks to get burning embers on you? Because. I don't know.

I haven't been. I mean, you go to a park. What I'm saying is you go to a park that they do fireworks at.

Right. Like around 4th July. Yeah.

Which I've had embers on me several times from those. Yeah. But I like to be fairly close.

You have to be pretty super close. And I want to say that. And the wind direction.

True. But I feel like. And I could be.

Was it reading Rainbow? Reading Rainbow? I think it was reading Rainbow. And he did, like, an episode or whatever. Laverne.

Yeah, he did an episode of. He did an episode where he went out on the boat with them or whatever to look at the fireworks. So they shoot him off on a boat in New York? I think so.

Maybe. Or maybe. I don't know.

Maybe it could be New Jersey. I don't know. Oh, my gosh.

You're just spitting out facts that aren't facts. Well, they're facts, but not accurate facts. Anyway.

Some not so accurate facts. It was some celebration. They were fireworks, and they shot them off on the boat so that the crowd would not be, like, right on top of.

Yeah. And anyway, so my thought is, if they can do it from New York, they might do it from a boat. And if they're doing it from a.

The. I don't know where the Hudson river is, but I think it's right there. What I'm getting at is, wherever they're doing it, if they can do it from a boat, how are people getting embers on them? I don't know, because I don't know that they're doing it from a boat.

Look, okay, go to New York and you tell me. I have no idea. If you want to let us know, comment on the.

You can email us, too. Yeah, email us. What's the email? Rockymountcold cases@gmail.com

I don't know. I didn't make the email. The Times Square ball's weight has yoyoed.

So the ball originally was made from 700 pounds of iron and wood. It was later reduced to just 400 pounds of raw iron before they switched to an aluminum frame in 1955. Do you want to take a guess on how much it weighs now was 700 pounds.

Then it was 400 pounds. What is it now? 287 pounds. Okay, you know what? Here's a weird thing.

The now 11,875 pound ball, it's heavier. It's way heavier. It's bigger.

I don't know if it's bigger per se, but it's way heavier. I bet it's bigger because it could be bigger. What did.

It was like 19? Seven. You said the ball started. Yeah.

That the ball wasn't for that many people in 19. Could be, but now it's made out of. So the now 11,875 pound ball didn't get its new look and materials until the millennium when Waterford partnered with Phillips lighting to create a shimmery led display.

So now it's got an led display. So then Waterford comes up with a new. Okay, I went down a rabbit hole after this because again, I hate New Year's and I never pay attention to the ball drop.

Have you ever paid attention to the actual ball? No. Because who know who does? I mean, unless you're there and plus the time zone difference. Or you stay up till midnight and watch the thing.

No, the ball drop in New York is filmed live, so you got to keep staying up because we're in a different time zone. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

I don't want to keep staying up, actually. No, it drops 2 hours before us. Yes.

I'm not staying up for my own new year's. Why would I stay up for theirs? It's still 2 hours. You could watch theirs.

I'm going straight to bed anyways. So the water Ford comes up with a new ball pattern every year. So the ball is not just like a glow ball that's the same every year.

It's different. Remember all those led lights they put in? Yeah. It's a freaking different pattern every year.

Why are you not blown away with this? I am blown away with this. I'm just wondering when they're going to do it with drones. Oh my gosh, we need to go see a drone show.

Yeah. Okay. But anyways, back to this.

So then I was like, what do you mean it's a different pattern every year? Really? And then I tried to google it and it was hard to tell all the different patterns. And then I'm like, what is a Waterford? Who is Waterford? What is this Waterford? So then turns out there's a website you can actually go to, waterford visitorscenter.com. And there's a whole section about the Waterford crystal and the Times Square ball.

The ball is made out of actual crystal, 2688 crystal triangles. That's why it weighs so much. It's a freaking crystal ball.

It's a literal crystal ball. Like, real crystal. It's made out of real crystal, Waterford crystal, which apparently is really good, high quality irish crystal.

Like, they mine it. Yeah. And I'm sure they mine it and melt it.

I don't know. Anyway, I have no idea how you deal with crystal and putting into triangle shapes. So, anyways, so then I was hanging out on their website for a while, and I was like, what? And they're currently doing a theme.

They're doing specific patterns right now that represent something. And it's called, like, the whole project is called gift of love. And so they're doing, like, a ten year thing, which we're, like, at the tail end of now, where each pattern represents a gift.

And so, like, in 2015, it was a gift of fortune. In 2016, the gift of wonder. On the website, it says, the gift of wonder provides fertile soil to nourish the seeds of knowledge and achievement.

Our fascination with the unknown and unexplored takes us to new vistas which ultimately awe and inspire. And look at this. Look at this.

And I can put it on some of these on instagram. They pick a different pattern. Oh, wow.

That's neat. That looks like a soccer. You know, the gift of harmony can look like a soccer ball.

I mean, look at the gift of fortune, though. It's, like, also a soccer. Oh.

And it's not even the gift of fortune. It's the gift of fortitude. So I thought that was amazing.

I had no idea about any of this with the ball. Yeah. You can go to the Waterford website and learn more and wish Fetty is super fun.

Oh, my gosh. You can do wishfetti at my funeral when we're having the dog adoption palooza. Oh, my gosh.

I want a dog adoption palooza. Okay, that's neither here nor there. Anyways, so, yeah, I learned some interesting things about the worst holiday ever.

Is it the worst? What's the more worst holiday? Valentine's Day. I don't love Valentine's Day, however. No, but here's the thing.

Valentine's Day, at least they come out with special candies. We did a whole episode about the candy hearts. Yeah.

And then you get those. The cinnamon hearts and the cinnamon bears. The chocolate covered cinnamon bears.

Valentine's at least has some decent candy. What kind of fun food thing do you get for New Year's that you can only get during New Year's? Yeah, I don't know. It's a stupid holiday.

You know what's funny? I just was thinking how hard it is for a skit episode sometimes. But yet there's a lot of people I hear, they're like, dude, I love listening to your fun fact. For instance, my dad, he's like, oh, your dad's listening to the podcast.

Is he our number one listener? Is he our only listener? Yeah, he's not our only listener because we've had, like, 70 downloads in the last three days. Okay, but the fun fact section is also my favorite section. If I could make whole episodes out of fun facts, I win.

But what I'm getting at, though, is, like, we just maybe have some fun fact episodes sometimes, because sometimes it's fun. I feel like the audience probably enjoys it, and even if they don't enjoy it, I'm still doing it because I enjoy it. I know, but what I'm saying is maybe we don't even have, like, a cold case or a murder mystery or whatever, and we just dump an episode in.

That's just fun facts. Maybe it could be fun. Put it on the brain.

I don't know why they wouldn't listen. We'll put on the brainstorming thing. Yeah.

All right, so remember last episode, we were saying that we might take little adventures outside of the Rocky Mountains? Yeah, we're still doing that. And during special event episodes, like holidays, I like to just do whatever episode want, whether it's in the Rocky Mountains or not. This one, basically every month there is national holiday.

No, not every month. But there's, like, I could figure it out. Yeah, I could figure it out.

There's like, national Cookie Day, and I could try to find a murder mystery in a bakery or something. There's a will. There's a way.

No. So I'd never heard this case. So it wasn't like one of those ones where I was like, I love this case.

So I'm going to tell you about it. This one I found on homicide for the holidays. Again, season two, episode eight.

I did look at news articles and stuff as well to try to get more information to supplement where maybe the episode didn't have a lot of information. Yeah, it's all the same. So I have no other links to sources because all the articles I read had less information than the episode.

And honestly, I like watching the episodes because you get to hear from the actual detective and you get to hear from actual family members and stuff. And if the victim survives, you get here from the victim. So I love watching those.

Anyways, when I read the description, it said that this happened in Edmonton, Canada. Yep. I drifted too far.

That's not that far. And actually, you know what? Edmonton, there's the Canadian Rockies. So you're not that.

Just Edmonton. Okay. And I'm like, that's probably.

I didn't even think about it not being in the States. So I'm like ten minutes into the episode and they show a license plate and I'm like, why is that a canadian license plate? And then they start talking about Canada. And I was just like, well, I'm already too interested and invested in this, so we're just going to stay in Canada.

My bad. No, I think that works because Rocky mountains and the Canadian Rockies and Jasper National park is not that far from Edmonton. I know because I was in that park in 2017 driving back from Alaska.

Well, I've never been to Canada. I do want to go someday, but I've never been to Canada. But we are now in Edmonton, Canada.

My bad. K. I like that area.

Did you know? You want to know another fun fact about Edmonton? Okay. That it's not in the US. Okay.

You know that they have the biggest mall in North America? It's bigger than the mall of America. Yes. Really? Yeah.

The episode did not mention this. They have a pool inside. And then it has inside that pool.

Like penguins? No, a big, like, pirate ship. Oh, even better. And that pirate ship is probably the size of like a big building.

Neat. It's almost like a normal sized pirate ship. Inside the pool.

Inside the mall. And that pool probably makes up an 8th of the mall. Wow.

Or maybe a 10th. I don't even know. It's huge.

Sounds exhausting. Takes a while to walk it. Do they have, like, pretzels, though? Yeah.

Okay, then. Pretty sure that's worth it. Can I get a pretzel like every so many stores away? Probably.

And then you could probably ride a one wheel if you wanted. Oh, yeah, I'm here for that. Eating my pretzel.

My one wheel. I'm not eating the one wheel, but I'll ride it anyway. Sorry.

Fun fact about Edmonton. Kayla's continue. Okay.

So on December 29 in 2014, just two days before new year, the Lou family had just finished dinner. Around 530. David Lou had just gone upstairs when the doorbell rang.

His wife Cindy and their twelve year old son headed to the entryway to answer the door. Immediately after answering the door, Cindy was shot in the head in Canada. Canadia.

I can't remember how old this episode is. It's not super old, but they said it's one of the area's worst murders. Wow.

Yeah. Shortly after starting his shift for the evening, Inspector Reagan, James responded to a 911 call of shots fired at a home. Upon arriving at the home, Inspector James sees David with his wife, who is laying on the floor in a pool of blood.

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With that said, let's get back to the episode. Upon arriving at the home, Inspector James sees David with his wife, who is laying on the floor in a pool of blood. David was crying and trying to stop the bleeding.

While Cindy was clearly dying, Inspector James noticed the family's three children were able to see what was happening and move the children to a different area of the house. Okay, back up. Pause.

Take a minute. Take a beat. Inspector.

Inspector. Not detective. We're not in the US.

That's what I'm saying. I even paused on the lower third. Says their name and everything.

I even paused to be, yeah, inspector. Inspector is a. I'm okay.

I don't know, something like that. It sounds like it. Inspector general.

When paramedics arrived, David said in the episode, he could tell from their expression that Cindy had died again. That's why I like the episode. You get to hear from the actual person.

He was so sad. It was still very painful for him. Inspector James questioned David about what had happened.

David told him he did not see the incident as he was upstairs at the time and ran downstairs when he heard a loud bang. It was David's twelve year old son who told his father what had happened. David's son kept telling him it was his fault his mother was shot because he was the one who opened the door.

Okay, that sucks. It was so sad. I was like, buddy, it's not.

Unfortunately, because the son was the one to witness what happened, he did need to answer some questions from police, including if his dad had done this. The son told police that when he had opened the door, an asian male with glasses had asked for their grandfather in vietnamese, and when Cindy had approached the door, the man shot Cindy. He then left in a dark colored sedan.

Despite the man asking for the grandfather, Inspector James felt that Cindy was an intended target due to the fact that it was a direct shot to the head and that the man left right after the Lou family was taken to the police station and Inspector James questioned David further because of how Cindy was murdered. Inspector James asked David questions about Cindy, such as if she was having an affair, any gambling issues, any enemies, drug issues, etc. David, however, could not think of any reason someone would want to kill Cindy and felt the attack was most likely a random attack rather than a targeted attack.

The police was then placed under police. The police was placed under police protection. You know how it be.

The family was placed under police protection and sent to a hotel to sleep. A few hours later, Inspector James is notified of another 911 call. The caller has not been able to reach her father, 53 year old Foo Lamb, for the last several hours.

It was so freaking annoying. His name is Foo Lamb and in the episode they like, 90% of the time referred to him as Foo Lamb, as if that was his whole first name. Oh, that's annoying.

It was so annoying because they didn't do that to any other character. I was just like, why? Anyways, she said he had dropped off two children at her house and said some strange remarks that led her to wonder if he was suicidal. Sergeant Patrick McCormick.

Such an irish name. And also, when I kept writing McCormick, all I could think of was the like, that's okay. I was like, oh, anyway, it is a spice.

McCormick is a spice. Anyway, not a spice. It's a spice manufacturer.

True, it's many spices. Okay. Sergeant Patrick McCormick is sent to the address the caller gives to check on the family.

Police knock on the door, but there was no answer and police couldn't see anyone through the windows. When Sergeant McCormick called the daughter back to let her know nothing appears wrong and there is no answer at the door, she kept persisting that something wasn't right. Because of her persistence, police continued to inspect around the home.

Police find footprints in the snow that had gone in and out of the house recently. In the footprint was a red stain. This made police wonder if perhaps the red stain was blood and something could be wrong.

Sergeant McCormick called up Inspector James to fill him in on what was going on at this house. Inspector James notifies Sergeant McCormick about Cindy. And Sergeant McCormick asks Inspector James to come see this new residence because it also involves a vietnamese family.

Do you follow that? Yeah. Inspector James comes to the address and they discuss how they can lawfully enter the home, which I feel like is a different rule than maybe in the US, because if they're getting no answers. Someone's made weird comments about maybe being suicidal, and they're seeing, like, bloody, potentially bloody footprints.

I feel like probably here in the US, they'd have been, like, reason enough. Get in there. But I don't know.

Anyways, so while at the residence, another call comes in to 911 of a man wanting information on his wife. He and his wife had had an argument, and he believed his wife was staying at Fu Lamb's house and he hasn't heard from her. So now we have two calls about this resident saying something's not right.

So police made the decision to enter the home, which was really easy to do because when they tried the door, it was unlocked. So no breaking and entering. They just walked in.

Upon entering the home, blood is everywhere. They showed some images, like, actual crime scene images, and there was blood everywhere. In the front hallway were blankets on puddles of blood.

And there was blood on the walls, on the tile. There were blood smear marks where someone had been dragged. And in the living room were three lined up bodies of clearly deceased people.

Three? Three. And they showed an actual image of it. And they are, like, lined up side by side, laying on the floor in the living room like they've been put there.

Wow. Yeah. Going upstairs.

What? Okay, continue going upstairs. Police find more blood in a bedroom where an eight year old boy is dead from a gunshot to the head. What? Yeah, but he wasn't with the three in the.

He's upstairs in his bedroom. Too far to drag. No, you'll find out.

Sorry. Plus, he'd be the easier one to drag because he's lighter, smaller. Yeah, like, just don't drag bodies.

It's a lot of work, a lot of business. It leaves more evidence. I'm like.

And it leaves more evidence, like, I'm helping out. Sorry. In other rooms upstairs, three more deceased individuals are found.

Police look to see if any of the deceased have a gun in an effort to rule out a murder suicide. So we have the three upstairs and four upstairs. Wow.

Yeah. No gun is found among the bodies, and based on the drag marks of blood in the house, it is determined that the three bodies in the living room were moved further. Inspecting the scene, it also appeared that the three victims downstairs were killed at different times.

What, like hours apart? Are we talking minutes? At what point? How do you determine how far apart they were? It didn't explain. And I wondered that, too, because I was like, well, if you're looking at this and you don't know what's happened, are you looking at. Based on how big.

The blood puddles are underneath each person, or how decomposed one person is from the other. But then they would have to be killed many hours apart to show decomposition differences. Right.

So I don't know how they initially were. Just like they were killed at different times. That's very interesting.

Unless you have different muscle atrophy type, whatever things that happen with. But they'd have to be killed again, like, many hours apart later. It explains a little bit in your initial investigation.

I don't know why they would think that in the initial investigation. Okay. And then based on the drag marks, it looked like all three were shot in the entryway as they entered the home and then moved to the living room, which means the killer sat and waited in the house while people arrived.

Again, they're just kind of figuring this out. So this is probably why they figure that people were shot at different times, because as people arrived, people were arriving from a place at certain. I mean, that's my best guess, but how would you know that? Because they don't have any information.

Still. They're just kind of looking, and they're like, well, it looks like he did this. Yeah.

I don't know. That's very interesting. I'm just wondering because unless you know that person X or person B or person C or whatever gets off work at X amount of time.

Right. You don't know that. Yeah.

Do you? I don't know. Unless your schedule is on the calendar on the. Or something.

Yeah. The bodies were identified as Foo's wife, Tian. She was upstairs.

Her eight year old son, who was also upstairs. Tian'sister and the sister's three year old daughter. They were upstairs.

And downstairs in the living room were Tian's parents and a male. What? Oh, okay. What? I don't know.

The way you said male friend, I was like, anyway, we live in a different world nowadays. It's so crazy sometimes. Anyway, so not that kind of friend, not among the victims, was fu.

Oh, you're not amazed by those? I was amazed. Police began to wonder if Foo was responsible for the murders. So when the police were canvassing the neighborhood, they found out that Fu's wife had a dark sedan that was missing from the residence.

They actually had a personalized license plate that someone in the neighborhood knew. He was able to give the personalization to the police, so police knew exactly what car they were looking for. Foo's daughter was questioned by police and told police that Fu and Tian had a volatile relationship.

Fu had assisted with bringing Tian's family from Vietnam to Canada. But he felt he got no financial or emotional compensation for this. Basically, he was feeling like his efforts were not appreciated.

Okay. What? He did this expecting more? I don't know. Can you not just do stuff out of the goodness of your own heart? Apparently not.

Apparently not. Okay. I mean, I don't know.

Cultures are different. I get it. You're going to have the way different cultures see things like, oh, you owe me, or like, things aren't anyway.

Yeah, well, it sounds like that is not something typical of their culture to be like, I did this for you, you owe me type of thing. So Fu and Tian had begun to argue more near the new year's, and Tien wanted Fu to move out of the home. Tien had also begun seeing someone.

He was identified as a deceased male friend police had found in the living room. Police began a search for Fu and did a background check on him. Through the background check, it was discovered that Foo was in a lot of debt, but that there had also been an emergency protective order placed against him.

With allegations that he physically and sexually abused Tian. Fu was also under the assumption that Tian had cheated on him years ago and that the eight year old boy that was dropped was not actually his son. It doesn't say why he suspected this, but he did.

So then he had a DNA test done that proved he was not the eight year old's father. Fu then assaulted Tien and threatened to buy a gun and kill the family. Wow.

Do you think Fu did it? Yeah. Why? Because he got super jealous and envious of the end that he went as far as making sure that the eight year old had a DNA test. I don't think you're ready for this jelly.

I don't think you're so bootylicious. For you, babe. You know something I don't yet iconically.

Oh, my gosh. Okay. Police showed David, remember who David is from the beginning.

Cindy's husband. Yeah. Police showed David a picture of Fu to see if he knew him, but David did not.

Police pinged Foo's phone and found him approximately 16 miles away at a vietnamese restaurant he worked at. A SWAT team was assembled at the restaurant while police tried to contact Foo, police were unsure if he had killed himself or if he was preparing for a gunfight. Eventually, police entered the restaurant and found Foo had killed himself.

I was going to say, in my mind, I was thinking, he's in the restaurant, but he's dead. He shot himself. He did.

Yeah, he did do that. Through further investigation, police find out what had happened at the lamb house. On December 29, Foo went upstairs and shot his wife, son, sister in law, and niece.

He then used his wife's phone to lure his mother and father in law to the house. When they entered the house, he shot them and dragged their bodies to the living room. He then used Tian's phone to lure her new boyfriend to the home, where he is then shot and dragged into the living room.

He then takes his infant daughter and another child to his adult child's home, the one who called 911 saying that she couldn't get a hold of him. They didn't say who the other child was or anything. But either way, for whatever reason, he didn't kill the other two kids.

So then it's just a matter of how is all of this connected to Cindy, since nobody in Cindy's family knew who fu even was. So the connection, which they did not elaborate in the episode, and I couldn't really find anything in any other source as well. But the connection to Cindy and all of this is that Cindy's father and Fu were once friends.

They stopped being friends after a family dispute, and Fu had come to kill Cindy's father, which is why he had asked, where is your grandfather? When her father was not available, he was actually out of town. Fu murdered Cindy instead as revenge. Wow, that's wild.

So I don't know what the family dispute was that needed murder as that's. That's really a little bit far out there. But, I mean, you've already shot your whole.

Yeah, and the episode was saying that, like I said, this is Edmonton's worst mass. That's horrible. Yeah.

Okay. Tally of that. So there's three shot in the living room.

Whatever. There was four upstairs and Cindy. Am I missing any? I mean, if you want to count foo.

So eight total, plus foo if you want to count nine. All because one guy went cray cray. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I want to go to Canada to get murdered.

I can call people hosers by what's his name? You hoser. Actually, Canada's pretty cool, dude. I've seen some pictures of some really pretty places in Canada.

Like Newfoundland. Newfoundland, yeah. Anyways, okay.

I just want to go to this place. Yeah. Thanks for listening, guys.

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