Welcome back to Season 2!
WE ARE BACCCCCK...with brand new episodes, brand new studio and sort of the same us, but never really.
We catch you up on what we've been doing this summer, the joys and challenges of our parenting journey. We talk about making the difficult choices and putting yourself in intentional discomfort.
We have so much to talk about!
As always, thanks for coming back and thanks for being here.
Your hosts: @lynnhazan_ and @tonydoesknow
follow us on social @ltkpod!
Welcome back to Season 2!
WE ARE BACCCCCK...with brand new episodes, brand new studio and sort of the same us, but never really.
We catch you up on what we've been doing this summer, the joys and challenges of our parenting journey. We talk about making the difficult choices and putting yourself in intentional discomfort.
We have so much to talk about!
As always, thanks for coming back and thanks for being here.
Your hosts: @lynnhazan_ and @tonydoesknow
follow us on social @ltkpod!
Hey, welcome to the Lynn and Tony Know podcast. I'm your host, lynn.
Speaker 2:And I'm Tony. We are both wellness coaches and married with kids.
Speaker 1:Join us as we talk about all things health, wellness, relationships, life hacks, parenting and everything in between, unfiltered. Thanks for listening and let's get into it. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2:Welcome back.
Speaker 1:Season two episode one point two one point one or one point two, because we attempted to record our first episode a couple of weeks ago, when our new space was under construction, and, for reasons that we don't know, it just didn't pan out because of technical difficulties.
Speaker 2:I literally record two copies simultaneously for that exact reason, and both of them were, it wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 1:Now we are in our new space. As you can see, we are no longer in our bedroom, which was a vibe. By the way, we were postpartum and it just made sense. And now we are, you know, nine months postpartum, post-post and podcast and season two, and we're in our basement and Tony worked really, really hard to elevate our space and this is exactly looks like that image on our vision board of what we wanted our podcast studio to look like. So thank you, babe, you did a wonderful job it was a lot of fun, honestly.
Speaker 2:You know it was. It had a purpose and I'm excited that it's done and I'm excited, quite frankly, that the first episode gets to be with it under relative completion. Yeah, that's what was called in for us, I guess, was just hold your horses exactly Get it done and then you can fire away.
Speaker 1:Brand new season, brand new space and yeah, and we have a lot to catch you guys up on, so this is a solo episode. We're just going to talk through things. We've been doing, what we are summer. Noah is officially nine months old. She turned nine months like a week ago or so.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, yeah, week and a half now, do you want?
Speaker 1:to tell people what's going on with her and where she's at. Yeah, I mean in her journey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she has reached enlightenment. She can meditate for three days straight yeah and yeah, no. So she was born very small. Obviously, you're very small, so it's a byproduct of what had to happen. When she was born, she was in less than the 20th percentile in weight and at her last checkup hit 85, 85th percentile. So she's growing like an absolute weed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think since the last time we caught up with you guys, she just started solids, so that's a whole journey into her eating food and she's loving it. She's such a foodie and it's really a lot of fun. She eats literally everything.
Speaker 1:If you're in the thick of it with your bait newborn. I think that's so much fun when they get to that point where they can eat with you and you can sit down and have them enjoy different tastes, and that's been a real fun journey and she loves to eat, which is great, and she's starting to crawl and she has this really fun little personality and that's also been exciting to see. I feel like the first season we talked about the newborn life and we were just really in survival mode.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I think after the six to seven month mark things start getting a little bit easier. You start getting into more of a routine. It's still hard in its own way. Some days are definitely more challenging than others, but you kind of know what you're doing, you know your baby and you know that tomorrow is going to be another day and it's going to be fine. But I feel like when you're in that newborn stage you're not sleeping and you're like when is this going to get better?
Speaker 2:It's also just more fun.
Speaker 1:now, quite honestly, she's got a personality and they laugh at you and they react to you and they smile and they're just communicative in that way. They babble, which is like the cutest thing because they have, like, their own language, but it's not quite English yet.
Speaker 2:No, she yells, she yells. She doesn't scream so much she yells. When she has an opinion on something, she is very vocal about it. Right, that's you right.
Speaker 1:That's me. The thing that I'm struggling with is that she's upset. It's a strong, it's like nice, but it's also a struggle. She's obsessed with me like literally obsessed with me, like whenever and like it's fun. It's almost to a point where every time she like like leeches on to me, I'm like I keep singing her the Mariah Carey song. Like why are you so obsessed with me? Like it's just like, because it's just like I can't leave the room without her. Like begging for me.
Speaker 2:No, if I'm playing with her in the room or I'm doing anything, like the other day, I'm feeding her and everything's going fine. You come into the kitchen to wash dishes, she whips her head around, sees you and it's game over. I'm like babe. You either have to.
Speaker 1:She has like a total meltdown.
Speaker 2:You have to feed her or you have to leave, like those are the two choices. She cannot just sit in the same room with you and not have you interact with her Right.
Speaker 1:That's an order for me to get stuff done. When somebody else is with her, whether it's Tony or like a sitter, I have to completely, like I have to leave, like I have to hide. I have to go, maybe in a different way in the house so she doesn't see me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to like travel. You have to circumvent her area.
Speaker 1:It's a nice feeling, but it's also like kind of exhausting yeah, so like. I think it's the stage where they get a little clinging. They're kind of aware that you're a person, you're separate of them, whereas before they probably didn't realize that. Now they realize that. So that's been really interesting as a mom, because I did not have that with my first kid. Mia could not care less. So that's the updates. With Noah we had a really fun summer.
Speaker 1:The last time we spoke it was for my 40th birthday special and which was around the time where I swore off alcohol.
Speaker 2:Again, let's talk about it. Yeah, the hard stuff.
Speaker 1:The hard stuff.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about it, okay.
Speaker 1:We had it. Well, we had an episode a couple months ago where we basically talked about our sober living and that I stopped drinking before I got pregnant and I just, obviously, while I was pregnant, didn't drink. And then a lot of people asked me if I was going to start drinking again after giving birth and I took a while, but I started slowly having like a drink here and there and having a glass of rosé here and there, and on my birthday we went out to Kima. It's this like party restaurant, like it's like a supper club kind of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like I'm turning 40.
Speaker 1:I want to party with my friends and family, my sisters in town. Let's like, invite our closest friends. Let's go to this restaurant. You know I'm going to get dressed up, look hot, let's party. Because I was like you know what, I feel like we haven't party In a while. I had a baby. I haven't been out. Like, let's do this, Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want to party and dance and come on to right and we go to this place and I have like, right away it turns into a party, like it doesn't even give you a chance to like sit and talk and eat. It was like full on and it was like too much.
Speaker 2:There was no buildup.
Speaker 1:It made me realize like okay, I'm officially, like I'm officially 40. I'm officially old, because this is too loud for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:This is when I knew, like I knew it was like. That moment I was like, yep, officially I want to be in bed in my pajamas watching Love Island, like I'd much rather, but it's my birthday, we're having fun. So I had two drinks, these Moscow mules, and I was on an empty stomach and I got completely schmammered, like shmammies, like just it was fuzzy, like everything was like, you know, like those old school cameras where everything's just kind of like blurry. That's how it felt, like I didn't know what was going on. Thank God for Tony being sober, that he could just like make sure that I was okay, which he did. Was I acting like a crazy person?
Speaker 2:No, you weren't crazy. There was just like moments of it was like that classic, like sort of like drunk girl, like every emotion is going to migrate to the extreme end, right, oh yeah, and I started hold on.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, we did all that and it was fun, like I had a fun night. But what I don't like about drinking alcohol is that you're not present, like you're not experiencing the experiences, like you're just like somewhere, kind of somewhere else. You are, but you're not, like you're half there, half not, and I feel kind of like oh, I didn't get to really, you know, connect with my guests and my friends and my family, because I was like just drunk and like I didn't know what was going on and it was like so super loud, like couldn't wait to get out of there. And then on the way home we got in back in the car and on the way home I start crying. Why was I crying? Like you know the drunk girl crying? Yeah, I was just like I don't do this kind of thing.
Speaker 2:You really don't like.
Speaker 1:That's maybe the only time I've ever done it out of like the four times ever that.
Speaker 2:I've seen you drunk.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And one of them came to like there was an issue with how we were. Everyone was going to pay and it became a big ordeal and something I didn't see coming, and it just became, like you know, going out with a bunch of people and trying to figure out exactly how to split the check.
Speaker 2:It was a whole thing and ultimately just ended up I paid for everything. And then we, we got everybody to pay us back individually and it was not a big deal, but like you felt, like you took that very hard Right that moment.
Speaker 2:I don't know why you were upset that it well because, because you're so you want, you're such a caretaker that any wrinkle in the in the fabric of the evening becomes a little bit more than you can handle when you're drunk, right Like that was the thing where oh no, I've caused discomfort for everybody because of my birthday party and you got you got emotional about it, which I get.
Speaker 1:I get it Now. I remember that.
Speaker 2:But that's, that's what it was the other part. That was really funny and I hope this person is listening to the listens to our podcast, but somebody recognized you outside of the restaurant.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so then you got into a conversation on the street with this, this woman or this girl and her friends about you know she's explaining to her friends who you are and also trying to interact with you at the same time. And I'm just like man, she is not in the most pristine condition to have this conversation, but it went. It went perfectly fine. The girl was so.
Speaker 1:I didn't embarrass myself, not at all, not at all and I looked really hot though. And if she, if she's listening just please send me a DM and reassure her that she did not embarrass herself.
Speaker 2:No, it was not crazy at all but it was just like one of those moments where randomly somebody recognizes you with, which happens every now and then. And that particular one, I was like, oh no, she's a little she's going to have a meltdown every any second. No, I wasn't worried about a meltdown, but I didn't want, like you, to feel like you'd said or did something, so that's the last time I'm going out to party no, I'm kidding, it's obviously not the last time.
Speaker 1:It, just like it, made me realize how much I've changed and how my priorities are so different. Like 10 years ago, yeah, I would have been out drinking and partying and and all the things. Even five years ago, like Lynn pre pandemic.
Speaker 1:like yeah, I had a lot of fun like going out. But like, yeah, but I think I think just things have changed. I mean, that night made me realize like okay, yeah, I'm happy being 40. Like I'm happy hanging out at home with my family and having low key nights with my friends and doing like maybe dinners that aren't so loud, where I can actually talk to my friends the play, that everything but the volume right, the volume was a lot, it was club, it was club level volume, but you're eating dinner and trying to mingle.
Speaker 1:Right so, and every run around us was like in their 20s. Very young. Young Like yeah, Very young.
Speaker 2:But it was I. Honestly, I look back on it and was like that was, that was I had a great, but honestly I had a great birthday the next day sucked.
Speaker 1:I was really hungover. Of course, tony. Tony had to go to work and my family from Israel is visiting and, out of all places, where do they want to go the day after my birthday, where I'm hungover as shit and I'm alone with two kids?
Speaker 2:It's 95 degrees.
Speaker 1:And it's 100 degrees out, the armpit of New York City. Yes, you guessed it Times fucking square. No, thank you. It was awful, it was literally hell, it was hell on earth. It was payback. I was, yeah, your parents. I.
Speaker 2:Your parents were like you. You made us eat dinner for your birthday in a club.
Speaker 1:Well, it wasn't even my parents that wanted to go there Like, like my parents weren't even with us, they were just like we're not like we met them later but we're just walking. We're walking through and I'm just like with a baby, like an infant I have, you know, mia asking me for things and like it's hot and there's thousands of people everywhere, like on a weekend in the summer. It was just too much and I was like I am, I text Tony. I'm like I am never drinking again.
Speaker 2:Never that, really.
Speaker 1:That being said, what doesn't count is Rose, which we call mommy juice. It's like it just gives me what I need. It doesn't like I don't feel bad the next day. It doesn't give me anxiety, like I don't go down, like I don't spiral, and it's my mommy juice. It's like a once a week thing.
Speaker 2:I you know it's the most Midwest thing about you.
Speaker 1:Really Rose. Yeah, Rose is the best.
Speaker 2:Drinking Rose and calling it mommy juice. I feel like it's such a like it's perfect. Just such a mom's note. No, this is like affectation.
Speaker 1:It's my little like treat at the end of the week.
Speaker 2:I get it.
Speaker 1:You know it's like nice and you know, fruity and delicious, makes me feel like I should be like at the beach somewhere. So that's the thing, that's my new thing. So once a week, rose, mommy, slash mommy, juice cup for me. Then we celebrated our one year wedding anniversary.
Speaker 2:We did.
Speaker 1:We've been married for a year.
Speaker 2:Married for a whole year plus now. I mean yeah it's crazy because it's like yeah, we just celebrated our one year anniversary, which was now several months ago. We are well into year two.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And how does it feel it?
Speaker 2:feels amazing, like it's just like one of those. You know there's so many parts of our life that we can, we can question and we can go. Are we doing the right thing or this and that and like being married is never one of them. Like that is just something.
Speaker 1:It's the best so sure about. Like, I love being married.
Speaker 1:Not a second guess this time around, listen the most important decision you will ever make in your life, Besides the job you know. No, it's not the job that you're going to take, it's not the college you're going to go to, it's not the home you're going to live in or the country you're going to live in. It's who you're going to spend your life with, the most important decision ever. It's the person also that you're going to have kids with, Like if you decide that you want kids, like the person that you choose to have children with. That is a very important decision to make and I am very grateful that I chose you and you chose me, because we're killing it. You know they say that the hardest time in a marriage is right after having a baby, and I think it's been, you know, the best year of our.
Speaker 2:You know, I mean we also it's in the first year we kind of like, packed it in with the with that part. So it's like OK, well, the first year is going to be, theoretically awesome, right, no matter what, and you just slide a little baby in there and you'll never know, but it's hard, it makes it makes it harder when you have a baby, and for sure.
Speaker 1:We saw glimpses of the baby. When you have a baby, and we saw glimpses of that through the exhaustion and the sleepless nights and just managing taking care of a baby and everything else that we have going on. But we nipped it in the butt and we, you know, were able to grow from those experiences 100% yeah.
Speaker 1:So but yeah, yeah, I could see how it could be a complete shit show if you don't have especially if you have, like cracks in the communication and and just certain issues before, because having a baby will exasperate whatever issues you have before, like if you have any issues before you decide to get pregnant, like definitely try to fix those, because anything that annoys you about each other is going to come out tenfold after you have the baby. When you're like exhausted, like it's really it's, it's easy to resent each other. It's easy to just like fall into really negative habits because you're, you're just you're running on steam, you're not, you know you're not. Sleep is everything Like you're not sleeping, and if you're barely having time and your whole life is keeping this little thing alive, that like doesn't could tell you when they need anything Like that just adds, makes things much difficult.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, that's just a marriage tip for you guys. And we went to Montreal in August for a couple of days to visit friends. If you don't know this, I was born and raised in Montreal, Canada, and I don't really have family there anymore, Like it's just my friends from like high school. And we went back and it was really a lot of fun to bring Tony and Mia and to show them where I grew up and where I went to school and have them meet some of my childhood friends who now have kids and it's just so crazy. Like you know, I see my friends like once every couple of years, but it's just funny for me to see them as parents because, like I did like delinquent shit with these people and you know I know who they are at their core and who their inner child is. Like I know who they are and seeing them raise kids is really funny to me.
Speaker 2:It's probably the same for them, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really funny and it's like, oh yeah, like I've done some crazy things with you Like and you're like with full dad full dad mode and it's, it's cool and it's it's funny and, like you forget that we're all in this stage of life, like yeah but you're always that inner kid, that kid, you know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, montreal was great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did you like it?
Speaker 2:I did. I thought Montreal was a really cool place to visit. They're a little hyped on Maple everything.
Speaker 1:I love Maple, like it was so like it was funny to me. Give me all the sugar.
Speaker 2:No, it was like it was cartoonish. How much Maple stuff was there Like At first? Well, it's not necessarily my thing, I didn't grow up with it necessarily. It's certainly not like you did Montreal, apparently but there was maple everything. It's like going to the Jersey Shore where they literally fry everything you can get fried, whatever you can get a fried shoe if you want to eat it. It's like that with maple syrup up there and it was like comically overdone.
Speaker 1:I like it. I have no complaints about that, it's a true we ate very well.
Speaker 2:It's your culture.
Speaker 1:We ate very well and the kids were great. But the best part.
Speaker 2:The best part.
Speaker 1:Was. We went to a festival called Oceaga. It's a music festival, it's every year and we went with the intention to see Billie Eilish because my Mia, who's 11, she's a big Billie Eilish fan to an extent that we didn't realize.
Speaker 1:Not quite, I mean quite a lot and we were so excited to take her and it's just like one of those moments where we created this core memory and really in that moment and I'll explain to you guys what happened in that moment I really was just happy being a mom and I was like, yes, this is the stuff, this is-.
Speaker 2:Why we do it.
Speaker 1:Why we do it and we deal with the hardships of being a parent. Because here's the thing I am in the obviously I'm a mom, I have two kids. But I totally understand the different points of view of people who don't want to have kids. I totally understand that point of view and I totally understand the point of view of people who-.
Speaker 2:Make it their life's mission. Make it their life's mission is to be parents.
Speaker 1:I totally understand both sides. In some ways I was on both sides you know what I mean. Like when I was a single mom, I was fine with just Mia being my only child and not having any more kids and that sort of thing, but I always knew that I wanted to be a parent. But I understand why it's not for everybody, but those moments are like are the type of moments that I don't think anybody you cannot be replicated in any sense of the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't manufacture those moments. You can't manufacture them, they just happen organically and they're just the best Right.
Speaker 1:So what happened was well, we go to the festival and we're having a great time, like we're. We got, like these good tickets when we're able to be like pretty close to the stage. And then Billie Eilish comes out and my daughter got so emotional and the look on her face. She was so happy and she had tears in her eyes and she was so excited for this moment. And I remember Tony and I looked at each other and we got like teary-eyed yeah, waterworks.
Speaker 1:It was just this overwhelming like happiness and this overwhelming love and joy, and just excited because she was going through this, through this.
Speaker 2:Like it wasn't even us, like obviously I love Billie Eilish.
Speaker 1:She's dope but, like you know, just seeing my kid like react that way and being emotional and that was just everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the first time we got to experience, mia, being a fan of somebody in person.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Like the first time she's, you know, had this idea of an artist that she loves and being able to witness them live Like it was an all time thing. We were both of us.
Speaker 1:Tony and I were both like, literally looked at each other. Do you remember that moment?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:We were just like oh my God.
Speaker 2:Like are these goosebumps thinking about it again? This is amazing. It was so cool.
Speaker 1:It was so cool and she was singing all the songs and she was taking videos and photos and she was just like she had like the best time and she still wears like the concert.
Speaker 2:Still got her wristband.
Speaker 1:Concert she still wears a concert, wristband, and it was just like such a beautiful moment for all of us and it was just like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:This is the stuff. This is the stuff.
Speaker 1:This is what I love about being a mom is these moments that I get to experience life through my kids' eyes and experience their joy, and it's just like experiencing their joy is a hundred times more than me, experiencing joy of something Like I can't even explain it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, your joy is residual of hers. Like you can create more joy just by experiencing her being happy than you can by doing anything, and I feel like since then I've been chasing it. Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1:Like chasing the dragon, which is so fucking crazy to think about that. I want to like it could do more things.
Speaker 2:So like how do we get that again Get?
Speaker 1:that again. You know, there's only a handful.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Like I can't foresee it, we couldn't foresee that. Like the only times I can think of that it's actually happened are not things that I would have predicted. It's like oh, she'll really enjoy this, but you don't really know to the degree until you're in the moment Like there was the Christmas tree. Her first Christmas tree, that was one where she was just like, oh my God, like the most epic reaction to that, and I like who would have known that?
Speaker 2:that was what she would think this was definitely one of them. Even this past weekend, surprising her with a Jenedi was like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, her friend that lives in Tampa who she hasn't seen in a while. Like visited her for her birthday and it was like such a also like such a beautiful surprise for how they spent the weekend together. Yeah, I mean, these are all things that are like really wonderful to witness, and if you're the type of person who's kind of like I'm on the fence about having kids, if that is something that sounds like amazing to you, you know there's your why.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Whereas if you're like I don't, yeah, I'd rather just travel the world and experience joy for myself.
Speaker 2:That's great too, Like there's no, you can't miss what you don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I've always known that I wanted to be a mom and I do.
Speaker 1:I do love it, as hard as it is. And some days I'm just like, oh my God, like I need a break, or I just want to escape, or I just want to like not deal with these kids. I'm just like, fuck them kids. Sometimes it happens, I'm just like fuck them kids. There are days, but then you know, I get. Sometimes I wake up in the morning and I'm hanging out with my baby and Mia comes in and says good morning and it's just like. It's just so much joy and happiness, Like I feel like very fulfilled and full you know like that, no money or traveling in the world.
Speaker 1:could like give me that?
Speaker 2:It's true, I would 100% agree. I can't wait to like travel to more places with them and experience more things like that like just through travel Experience?
Speaker 1:yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:That'll be a good time.
Speaker 1:So what else? Oh so for my birthday. Okay, we need to talk about this. This is the most important, because I'm sure you all, like, are tuning in, because you want to hear more about this specific thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:When Tony surprised me for my birthday with this wonderful gift, he got me a cold plunge, and we are cold plungers now. We adopt it as aggressively a personality trait as a vegan, as a crossfitter, what else? I think those are the two, that's it. Those are the ones.
Speaker 2:I mean, those are the obvious ones.
Speaker 1:By the way, I've been both. I've been a vegan, I've been a crossfitter, because I like to adopt lifestyles and talk about them all the time.
Speaker 2:Experience the lifestyle and then tell people about it yeah. It's kind of what you're. One of the pillars of who you are is in a very good way. It's literally why we are sitting in these seats talking on microphones in so many words.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Tony got me a cold plunge Now before we dive into no pun.
Speaker 2:Before we plunge into our next topic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of people have been asking us to talk more about our setup. Like, what did you buy? Like, be as specific as possible, because I know I get this question all the time and people want to know, like, because you can go, like it could be very expensive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can go quite high. It could be expensive as fuck Like or it could be Seven, eight grand, or you can DIY.
Speaker 1:Like the, you know you can start obviously with cold showers. You could start there. You know, if you don't have like a bathtub or anything like that, you definitely get benefits from taking cold showers. So at the end of your shower just put it to the cold water and just like chill for a minute. You can start with 30 seconds and then build up to a minute and longer if you can do that and that definitely has some benefits. I find the showering a little bit harder because you're just like, oh, you know, like it's hitting you.
Speaker 2:You're kind of in, kind of not.
Speaker 1:Kind of in kind of not.
Speaker 2:The cold shower is a great way to start your journey with cold exposure.
Speaker 1:Like that's a good place to start.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I used to do it, like for years, like many years ago, and it'll have some benefits.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. And the next step is, obviously, if you have a bathtub, you can fill it. And this is what I used to do in my old apartment when I felt like I was a little bit anxious and I was spiraling a little bit, I knew that like just a little bit of cold would have zapped me out of it, and that usually helps. I would fill up a bottle of a bathtub with cold, the coldest water, and I'd add ice to like a bag or two of ice, and would it get like super cold enough for it to be like? You know, to make a difference for sure. But I wanted to go kind of a step further, and that's where we are.
Speaker 2:Yes. So what I got was like a package deal that you know, after doing some more research. After the fact and I'm in a Facebook group of cold plunge enthusiasts who, many of them, diy with freezer chests, which is one route to go it's a little bit more expensive to go that route than what we did, although it's probably a more long term solution to it. Basically, we just what I have. What we have is just a cold, a cold plunge pod which is just like a semi inflatable, pulled rigid, pulled tub Right, and then the other component is a like a, an aquarium chiller.
Speaker 2:So you literally the aquarium chillers, like three hundred forty bucks. The cold pod, the pod you can get on Amazon for like a hundred and thirty bucks. You can do this whole thing for less than five hundred dollars. What we have. So that, granted, that's not cheap, but when you start talking about bags of ice and how much ice it takes to get cold and all that, like it's the most economical way to go about it, for sure. And then, obviously, there are actual cold plunges that you can buy with bigger chillers, with more control over the temperature, with better filtration systems and all that. So there are definitely different levels to this, but for what we are doing right now, what we've got is perfect and it works out great for us.
Speaker 1:And that could be under five hundred dollars Under five hundred dollars you're all in Very simple, right yeah. Yeah, and we've been doing it now for almost two months.
Speaker 2:I want to say we're at two and a half.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We're at this point, but we're deep into it now and with the turn of the weather, a little bit, we're also getting to colder territory, yeah. So not by choice, but also at a good pace, like it's felt like the right step down in temperature for us and where we are with it. We're right at 40 degrees typically now with an overnight temperature and we started.
Speaker 1:We were in the mid fifties.
Speaker 2:Mid fifties, which is recommended.
Speaker 1:So we do. We started in the mid fifties and it's it is recommended to start gradually, especially if you don't have any experience with, you know, cold plunging. So we started in the mid fifties and we do it for three minutes. You can start at one minute, depending on your comfort level. It's okay, it's it'll, you'll still get the benefits from it, for sure. And we do three minutes and we do it every day, and we take usually a day of one day off a week to, because the cold plunge that we do have Still requires us to change the water every couple of days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can probably even do better with that Like and not have to change it as much as we do but at the same time like it, you know it gets muggy.
Speaker 1:After a couple of muggies, a little wiped down.
Speaker 2:And ours isn't so big that refilling it is a thing Like some of these people that are doing their DIY builds their their gallon tank like it's huge. Like refill it as a whole process and cost money to refill that much water all the time. So, like, our situation is a little bit, um, a little bit different in that we can change it a little more often, so, yeah, and we'll definitely have an episode dedicated to cold plunging.
Speaker 1:We'll bring in some experts to talk more about it. We are, you know, just in the beginning stages of our journey. I definitely feel a difference when I cool plunge. I will say that, especially for like increasing your metabolism, it definitely helps, like I was kind of hitting a plateau when it came to like my you know, losing the post baby weight.
Speaker 1:And again, I'm not like into dieting, I'm all about just like you know lifestyle and working out and eating, you know whole foods and also enjoying myself, like, if you follow me on social media, like I like to eat out, we'd like to go out, we'd like to eat a new restaurants, and it's really all about that balance. So I was going, I was hitting a wall where I wasn't losing any weight and I didn't want to you know diet, you know eat less or work out more, cause it just doesn't make sense for my, my lifestyle. And as soon as I started cold plunging, I felt like my metabolism like revved up and if anything I was able to, I'm able to eat more and my metabolism is really like it's like a machine, like I feel like I'm a machine, like I've kind of what crushed through that wall and now I'm able to, like you know, really like I lost like two pounds since we started.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I didn't change anything in my diet or my working out If anything, like I was working out a little bit less cause I'd just been really busy and it also helps with inflammation and helps with your sore muscle soreness, so you recover a lot faster and yeah, that like I feel like I've noticed a lot of changes in that sense. What, what kind of benefits have you?
Speaker 2:So for me and I would agree with you on the metabolism thing, because there have been moments, stretches, weeks of time where I'm like recovering from, like some sort of soccer thing, soccer injury where I haven't been able to work out a ton and I've maintained my current, my current weight, without doing anything.
Speaker 2:I mean, not much has been going on as far as working out and I've been able to keep it at that same level. So I think that it's it works very well in that regard. And also there's the psychological benefit of intentionally putting yourself in a place of discomfort first thing every morning and just winning, winning the battle. So I mean, obviously we're going to come up against things all day, every day, that are going to be like, ah, do I want to do this, this sucks, like I don't want to do this whatever. And I find that starting your day with that picking that battle with yourself and winning it every day is just changes your outlook on what you can tolerate and what you're able to accomplish. So those are the two most notable things for me right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's so many different benefits and again we'll have a whole episode dedicated to all the benefits. And it's really good for you, for longevity, for your immune system, weight loss, for your skin, like I feel, like my skin is like glowy and like just healthy.
Speaker 2:I feel like you do other things with that.
Speaker 1:I do other and we'll talk about that'll be another episode too, which we'll dedicate to that now. Another new habit that we started doing is this meditation.
Speaker 2:Oh Bob prokken.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want to talk about that, yeah, yeah, so it was lion weight. Was it Lionsgate at the end of August?
Speaker 2:I want to say it was a Lionsgate portal and if you don't know what, that is welcome. We don't really know it's a it's an a strong base baseline. It's a powerful day for manifestation Right. And you were kicking around the living room and like we need to do some intentions today. We need to do some, we need to manifest today, and so I was like I took that as a cue to like go all in and I started lighting candles. I was like I'm going to find a cool meditation.
Speaker 1:I love this man, like you know, like I'm so lucky that I listen when you come to attracting like your partner, you need to match energies, like you know, like I just talk about, like this is cuckoo stuff. Well, to some people could be a little cuckoo and Tony is just like let's do it, like let's roll with it.
Speaker 2:He starts lighting cat and I like even going a little bit above and beyond what I was, I was like, let's just meditate or whatever, and he's, like you know, doing this whole setup and like literally, look at this, like you said, let's we should do a podcast, and like this is the vision Like I want it. Like. If we're doing a podcast, I want it to be like super polished and well done, so when we're meditating. I guess that's kind of where I went with him.
Speaker 1:And he randomly goes on YouTube and searches for abundance meditation and we do this meditation by this. His name is Bob Proctor. Canadian gentlemen and he's a manifestation like, or he was he passed away.
Speaker 2:But he was in the movie the Secret and he also wrote a book called you Were Born Rich which we should definitely read yeah apparently it was like it's a best seller. It's like a go to for a lot of people.
Speaker 1:So he finds his this meditation and we do it. It's like a 20 minute meditation. It was great. And then, like at the end of the meditation, he's like you're going to want to do this meditation every day for 30 days. You will have the desire to do this meditation every day for 30 days and as soon as I was done, I was like I look at him like we're doing this for 30 days, right, because like we're annoyingly stubborn when it comes to like our habits.
Speaker 1:Listen like if we, if we, if we're, if like a meditation guru is telling us to do something for 30 days. We got to do it.
Speaker 2:Some guy is going to challenge me beyond the grave to meditate to him for 30 days. Like who am I to say?
Speaker 1:right, exactly, and so we've been. We're on. What day are we on? This will be 28, I believe, so we have two more two days left, wow.
Speaker 2:Three, and can I tell you though, you know, if you're.
Speaker 1:If you're wondering if these things work, I think they absolutely do, because a few days after our first meditation, I put the first step into something that I've been kind of sleeping on for a long time is starting a new business.
Speaker 2:I think you haven't been sleeping on it. You've been. You've been marinating, I've been marinating. You were in a different era.
Speaker 1:I've been doing actionable steps.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now you've got the ball right.
Speaker 1:I've got the ball rolling into dragging your feet.
Speaker 2:You can, I feel like I have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right, that's a good point, but and you also took an entire holistic nutrition course.
Speaker 2:Over the course of your pregnancy, I was dragging my feet, All right Well for me. I think it could be.
Speaker 1:I know, I know I absolutely need to give myself some grace and I put a lot of pressure on myself because I there's things that I want to accomplish in this lifetime and the postpartum. This postpartum period was very difficult for me because I had to force myself to slow down, which is not an easy thing for, right, somebody who wants to, you know for, who has an entrepreneurial spirit, and but like, at the same, it's like it's like you're going kind of back and forth between two different energies and, yes, that being said, I do feel like the meditation has helped me put actionable steps towards things that I want to do and things that I want to change Like and also, yeah, we'll put in the show notes this meditation we recommend doing it.
Speaker 1:And it's a new habit that Tony and I are doing every single night, and sometimes it's hard like we. I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2:It's man. Sometimes the vegetables suck. Yeah, I want to eat them, but for us it was like yeah, but these two new habits are are really great for us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the biggest ones.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's one of those things where it's like you want to do all these great things in your life but you can't dedicate 20 minutes to folk literally just blocking out all the noise and focusing on that, like when you put it in terms like that, it's like how can you not? You have to be able to make that time in order to want the things you want. So that's kind of yeah, that's kind of how it came into focus there.
Speaker 1:And okay. So we caught up mostly. And then we also both of us went on solo trips. I went on a solo trip with the girls to Florida to visit my parents, and Tony went on a man on fire retreat. So you talked about man on fire, one of our previous episodes. So go check it, check it out yeah for those you know just listening now, like can you give a little quick synopsis?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, so I've been a part of this community. It's a men's community for all, going on seven years, six, seven years, and now, at this point, I'm a, I'm a coach in the community, and this was we are. Our signature event is a four day immersion where we, just all men, come together. Some are already part of the program, some are brand new, and then you, we just dive into what's going on in your life. It is also paired with somatic respite, respiratory integration, which is different breathing exercises that allow you to get with whatever emotions are coming up. So it's about really connecting men into their heart, is the best way to put it, and I was one of the coaches, as part of the team for this four day, four day retreat in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1:And how was that for you?
Speaker 2:It was incredible. I've gone to several of these as a participant, where the energy is on me, like I'm focused on myself, like, yes, I'm also focused on all the other men there, but it's about what I'm doing in this moment and for this one it was about, you know, focusing, bringing the energy to all the other men that showed up for themselves for this thing and supporting, like our top coaches, in the process as well. So just having this like broadened awareness of taking care essentially of everyone there, and it was really cool. I also crossed eight years sober at that event. On the last day or Saturday I think, I don't remember now, but it was on the 26 was eight years of being sober.
Speaker 1:Congratulations, my love.
Speaker 2:I'm so proud of you yeah.
Speaker 1:How's it feel?
Speaker 2:Um, it's. It always feels great, it's always um it's. At this point it's just, it's almost a non event. It is so far removed from my field of awareness like I'm not compelled to do it, I'm not, I don't think about it. When other people do it around me, it's just such a non-issue for me at this point that like the anniversary is just kind of like coming, go and I'm, I notice it and I'm like oh yeah, that's a long time to do something, to commit to something, and now it's just how I live. It's not even a thing anymore.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm very proud of you, thank you. Not as proud as I am of surviving a weekend trip with two kids, no kidding.
Speaker 2:Six segway.
Speaker 1:It was very challenging, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1:It was a humbling, humbling experience and I think the biggest lesson that I came back with was just going into when you're traveling with kids or doing any sort of activity with kids multiple kids you have to really let go of expectations.
Speaker 1:You have to just kind of know that like go with the flow. Whatever happens happens. And I think I had certain expectations of how I wanted the trip to go. I thought I was gonna be able to handle it, I was gonna sleep really well, but it didn't quite go like that and nothing was really wrong. It just I think it was emotionally hard for me to be away from Tony and being alone with the girls on my own and even though my parents were incredibly wonderful and helpful and let me sleep in a couple of days, it was still really really challenging of doing it on my own and I really beat myself up over that and I think, like just having more patience with myself and just being like, okay, you know that like I did the best that I could you know I always do, and that's what it comes down to it's like.
Speaker 2:Obviously, releasing attachment to expectations is the name of the game in most parts of life, but especially when you're going into something that can be as challenging as riding solo with the kids on planes and getting through the airport and managing both of them and their emotions and all of that, that's a lot.
Speaker 1:I will say one tip I do have for if you're ever traveling with your kids or alone, try to book flights around their nap schedule, because if they miss a nap and you're on that plane and you know it's really hard for babies to fall, especially if they're not. They're like over six months and they're off their schedule. Yeah, you're fucked.
Speaker 2:What's better to do? You think to book during like a nap window or outside of a nap?
Speaker 1:If it's a short flight, then With the nap. No, like having them nap before the flight.
Speaker 1:Yeah like, if you're, let's say, your nap time is at noon, try to get a flight for like 3 pm so they can like either nap in the stroller before getting on the plane. But yeah, it's smart to try to calculate the nap situation. Obviously, if it's an international flight, definitely fly at night. I think that's obviously the easiest way. It's getting the red eye and you can get them to sleep at night. But during the day it's a little bit. I think we're just in a tough, in a weird age right now where when Noah is off her schedule she's just off her rocker, literally Like, just like. And I didn't think I would be that parent because with Mia I was like so relaxed and like she'd miss a nap and be like fine, like she wouldn't melt down. But I think Noah is a different baby.
Speaker 1:And if we take her off her schedule like it affects her. It affects her greatly and affects her night sleep and affects her daytime routine and it's just something that we have to consider like whenever we do trip. It does absolutely. We've become those parents. We're like, oh my God, we can't go out, like she needs to go to sleep. So, anyway, we're gonna end on a story.
Speaker 2:Can we at least address what's going on for us in this in real time, right now?
Speaker 1:What is that?
Speaker 2:Because I am like seeing stars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are hungry, we are fasting. It is Yom Kippur is a high Jewish holiday.
Speaker 2:We probably shouldn't be even talking to you but Technically not falling in line.
Speaker 1:Every Jew has like different degrees of how how they practice. How they practice and for us, the non-eating is the way we're doing it. We did have coffee this morning, which is again the degree to which Tony's not even Jewish.
Speaker 2:He doesn't even need to be doing this.
Speaker 1:He's an honorary Jew. He's doing this because I'm doing it. Yes, we are hungry. Thank you for reminding me how hungry we are. Our last meal was like 6 pm, 6 pm last night, and it is it's delicious. It is 2.18 pm, so we have five hours and 12 minutes to go. And yeah, just part of the deal.
Speaker 2:You're powering through right now. I mean it's almost necessary that we're recording this right now just to knock out an hour of this fast without and make it enjoyable, because this last stretch is about to be.
Speaker 1:You just gotta stay busy, but it's good for you and I wanna have an episode on fasting and intermittent fasting, because it's really good for you and it's another way to hack your health a little bit when it comes to fighting disease and weight loss.
Speaker 1:All the longevity doctors are all about intermittent fasting and of course, for women it's a little bit trickier. We have hormones, but I learned some things and as long as you go with your cycle, you can still intermittent fast and do those things without affecting your hormones too badly. So we'll dedicate an episode to that. But we are fasting today. I do feel good, though, like I do feel like I have energy, like I'm focused. I am hungry, but I still feel good, like I feel like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're body's in autophagy right now. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna end this episode with a story about doing things outside of your comfort zone.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I did not know where you were going.
Speaker 1:You were hoping I wasn't gonna bring this up.
Speaker 2:No, I don't absolutely, I just didn't know. I was like oh she's very, very much ramping this up into something. What could it be? I was along for the ride, just like everyone else.
Speaker 1:So when was this?
Speaker 2:A month ago.
Speaker 1:A month ago, yeah, yeah, yeah so every month, the Liberty Science Center in Jersey City has a adult party, LSC After Dark and it's obviously 21 and over and they have theme parties every month and it's a lot of fun. They've been doing it for like seven plus years. When they first started, I was actually the LSC After Dark ambassador and it was like a really fun time in my life and every month I dress up and go to theme park and we love dressing up and I attracted a man that loves doing the same kind of weird shit that I do, which is great.
Speaker 2:Stim's from Halloween. Right Like Halloween is my jam. My birthday is November 1st. It's always been my time. We love dressing, but we love we were always down for a dress up party.
Speaker 1:So we saw that they were having a Barbie theme party and we're like, yes, absolutely Gotta go to this Barbie theme party, love the movie. I wish we were recording the podcast while the Barbie movie was trending, because I have so much to say about it. Anyway, go watch it if you haven't. Just such a good movie. And I was like, oh, this is such a good opportunity for us to dress like Barbie and Ken.
Speaker 1:We got a sitter, we got our outfits in check, we looked hot. We both looked hot. I looked hot, tony looked fucking. He was like abs out, like you know, shirtless, looking real good. And we were ready to go to this party. And I was like we need to enter the costume cause I knew there was going to be a costume contest, cause there always work costume contest at the science center or wherever there's theme parties, and I was like we have to enter the costume contest, I want to win a prize. I just want to enter the costume contest Like I'm feeling good, I'm postpartum, like this is my night out, like let's do this shit, you know. So we go, we have the best time, we're dancing, there's a drag show and it was just wonderful. And we have the best time Amazing party and anyway. So.
Speaker 2:So we get entered into the costume contest and I'm going to say quote unquote costume contest is a little foreshadowing. And so Well, they're picking everyone right, they're taking volunteers and at one point I don't remember which which one of them Picked me to be in the in the costume contest and Lynn's like no, no, no package deal. We're both going, and for me that was like a non-negotiable she had to come with me.
Speaker 2:I was not about to do that, yeah, I wasn't gonna abandon him either, you know so we go out and there's six of us, I think, and we were the last ones, maybe, or whatever it was and and so they get us all up there, lined up and in mind you, the Liberty Science Center is a big place. It's three stories like. We're in the center on the first floor, and there are three stories of people hanging out looking down on this. There's a ton of people in the on the main floor and we're talking about like I don't know if there was a thousand people there.
Speaker 2:But it's so many people, oh my god, people and they're giving instructions on what to do and they're like you know, give us your best, catwalk up and back and you know that's it. I'm like, all right, we can handle that. And then what happened?
Speaker 1:So the first person goes out and literally Like starts doing the splits, like who knew that? This person was like a professional dancer. She starts twerking and she was serving, she ate and left no fucking crumbs. Like I was just literally my jaw was like dropped to the floor. She was twerking and doing the splits and like working the crowd. She had a cowboy hat, she was working that and I look at Tony, I'm like I'm sorry, I Did not know, I had no idea and.
Speaker 1:Tony's just like standing there having a like a Intermental breakdown a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. I was just like this is not what I signed up for, this is not what I want to do.
Speaker 1:I do not want to, like, do a dance off right now, like, and like don't get me wrong, like I used to do dance offs, like I do like to dance and have fun and I used to like love being the center of attention. But I'm in a different place in my Life now where I don't want to do those things anymore. I just wanted to do a catwalk and win like a prize that was been in fine with third place, like Get some photos and videos and that's it.
Speaker 1:Like I didn't, I did not sign up to do a whole like Dance off and then every contestant after that same thing deal they're break dancing, they're doing the splits, they're twerking, they're doing, they're working the crowd and I'm like are we the only schmucks here who don't know how to.
Speaker 2:Do a split. It's like they all got together beforehand and we're like this is how this competition is gonna go. We're all gonna break it down and they didn't tell us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they didn't know. And it's funny because, like I reached out to Kimmy some money, who was the the whole the Drag queen host, and I was like dude, like dude, I didn't say to. It was like, hey, like you didn't tell me this is gonna be a whole Dance off and he's like I had. No, he's like it wasn't supposed to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it just kind of morphed into that which would have been great for everyone watching like I was just watching it, I was like, oh, this is what a fun little thing, right to be there, and like be up next.
Speaker 1:So tell me, he's just like was stressing out, and I was like, okay, we're just gonna like, you know, do a catwalk, and I'm gonna, and you're gonna, stand there and I'm gonna like dance all up on you like you're a can, and then you know, we'll just we got this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now you like could have just been like fuck this, I'm not doing, like what was going through your head.
Speaker 2:That was part of it, yeah part of me was like we could just bail on this. I know that you're going to take it poorly if I do, because you you'll feel bad, like you got me into this, and like you know, I already did.
Speaker 1:I felt so bad already did.
Speaker 2:But that was gonna make it a thousand times worse If I just failed like and I didn't want to do that to you. It was more about that at that moment was like I didn't want to make you feel worse than you already did for putting me in that position, which, when we're talking about it's like not that big a deal, like yeah, like we get up there, maybe we look like fools and who cares? So a bunch of people that we don't know it doesn't matter, right, and the other way was to just lean in, do the best we can and have fun with it, which is the route we ultimately chose, and I ultimately chose, and we we did it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was fun, it was scary, it was like it was so scary. It was so scary and we just did it and like on the once we were done and got out of there it was like holy shit, what just happened, right. But we did it together and it was a fun thing that we got to like experience all the way through right all the anxiety, all and we did great.
Speaker 1:You know like we yeah we didn't post the video or anything, but of course the next day, because I'm a master's sleuthing.
Speaker 2:It's a. Thing.
Speaker 1:I found a video that the Liberty Science Center posted. They didn't even tag me, what the hell and I'm kidding, I love you guys and they put I'm glad they didn't tag us. They posted it and I like I was able to screen record it and I don't remember Anything, like I blacked out like yeah, like I do remember feeling like the song they gave us and the amount of time was very long. Yeah, the song was just not a good song either. Like I did, did us dirty on the song.
Speaker 2:I feel like I don't remember the song and but we did, we did our thing.
Speaker 1:Like, yeah, we didn't do the splits and we didn't win and we didn't get the most like cheers because like listen weren't again.
Speaker 1:We weren't the best like, weren't the best like she like I said, she ate and we'll post a video, but she did her thing like damn girl yeah damn like I wish I could move half like that Nah she would killed it like yeah, yeah, they all, did they all did a great job and we did our thing and and it was cute and we it was a moment that we overcame together and that we stepped outside of our comfort zone and and you know those like little you know like butterflies in the stomach, like that you get when you're a kid and like you're experiencing something new. It was kind of like that and it was kind of exhilarating, honestly and it's a fun story to talk about of something we, we did together and that you know we came home and we like laugh we still laugh about it like we still talk about it and like it's very funny and I hope we put ourselves in more situations like that.
Speaker 1:Sure, we will it's like the cold plunge, you know, you just like do it.
Speaker 2:It was intentional though, like that was yeah, I decide, I get that.
Speaker 1:I get that, but it's good to put yourself. Situations especially with your partner, like, especially do things with your partner, that that you can kind of bond because it's a bond. It's like a moment like we were laughing after and we were we. It's something we experienced together and hundred percent. Yeah, so, but we will not be entering any no more dance competitions.
Speaker 2:I think, we're gonna hang up our dance competition shoes all we want right now is a bagel. That's it.
Speaker 1:It's all we want.
Speaker 2:I want bagel and have a killer season too.
Speaker 1:Let's have a killer season and thank you all for being patient with us and, if you're new here, hope you can stick around. Obviously, we would love for you to subscribe, like our show. Follow us on social media. We're doing this for fun and we hope that it grows into something more, because we really truly enjoy this, and if you have any Suggestions or any guests that you think would be beneficial to come on the show We'd love to hear more just send us a DM. We respond to all our DMS and, yeah, we're really looking forward to this season, yeah, and our new space.
Speaker 2:Cheers see you next episode. You.