Lynn & Tony Know
Lynn & Tony Know
"Nobody Wants This" Episode
Have you ever wondered why so many TV shows glorify toxic relationships? Join us for a refreshing perspective as we dissect the new Netflix series featuring Adam Brody as a charming rabbi and Kristen Bell as an endearing shiksa. We promise you'll uncover why this unique romantic comedy stands out with its healthy portrayal of relationships, mature communication, and stellar performances. We'll share our own personal stories and cultural insights about the term "shiksa," making this discussion not only entertaining but also deeply relatable.
What constitutes a platonic relationship on TV? In one of our segments, we tackle the often blurred lines between friendship and infidelity, focusing on the ethically ambiguous secretive friendship between a married man and a single woman. You'll get to know our thoughts on the broader themes of appropriateness and practicality in such relationships. Plus, we’ll throw in some laughs as we discuss the hilarious performances of Kristen Bell's on-screen parents and the evolving arcs of supporting characters, making for a well-rounded critique of the show.
Lastly, we shine a spotlight on the portrayal of Jewish women in media and the impact of these stereotypical images. You'll hear our candid thoughts on how the show balances humor with cultural sensitivity, especially through the character development of Rebecca, who transitions from a neurotic stereotype to a deeply committed community member. We also explore the broader themes of cultural identity and relationships within the Jewish faith, contemplating the future dynamics of the characters. Tune in for an insightful, unfiltered look at one of the most unique romantic comedies on Netflix.
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Hey, welcome to the Lynn and Tony Know podcast. I'm your host, Lynn.
Speaker 2:And I'm Tony. We are both wellness coaches and married with kids.
Speaker 1:Join us as we talk about all things health, wellness, relationships, life hacks, parenting and everything in between, unfiltered. Thanks for listening and let's get into it. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2:Welcome back.
Speaker 1:This is a spontaneous one.
Speaker 2:Emergency episode, if you will. Nobody wants this, nobody wants this Nobody wants this episode, nobody asked for this episode. Nobody asked for it, but here we are. And why are we here?
Speaker 1:Well, we watched the new Netflix show. Nobody wants this, everybody's talking about it and I have a lot. We have a lot to say. So if you haven't, OK, if you haven't watched the show, go watch it Then Okay. So if you haven't watched the show, go watch it, then come back to us. If you did watch the show, we're going to talk spoilers, so make sure you finish it before coming back to this episode, because we're going to talk everything about it.
Speaker 2:So what's the show about? Give like the 30-second synopsis, All right. Broad Strokes is a Adam Brody plays a young, charming, handsome, hot rabbi. Adam Brody plays a young, charming, handsome, hot rabbi and Kristen Bell plays a very stereotypical shiksa. What is a shiksa? A shiksa is simply, in the broadest of terms, a non-Jewish woman. In the more narrow scope, it is exactly who she is Like blonde, bubbly, fun. Whatever girl, that's a shiksa. Shiksa is, to my understanding, more or less a slightly derogatory term.
Speaker 1:It's not though it is and it isn't I understand.
Speaker 2:But like it's not a term of endearment, it's in Yiddish. Yeah Right, it's more like a beware of the shiksas and I'm a male shiksa, by the way.
Speaker 1:Yes, you are.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so that's so many people message me because obviously I'm very out there with my being a proud Jew and also marrying the male version of a shiksa, in a sense, and people ask me you know what did I think about it Now? Overall loved the show. Overall thought it was adorable, like rom-com.
Speaker 2:Well cast, well cast Like I wanted more good banter comedy.
Speaker 1:Acting was phenomenal. Adam Brody is oh, what a mensch.
Speaker 2:He'll always be Seth Cohen to me.
Speaker 1:He's the best, overall awesome, but there were definitely a lot of things that bothered me Okay, and we'll talk about that, and also a lot of things that I really truly enjoyed.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So what are we starting first?
Speaker 2:Let's start with the parts that we liked. I want so We'll do a compliment sandwich.
Speaker 1:So, specifically, what I really loved about the show is I feel like you don't really see a lot of healthy relationships on TV and in movies.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Toxic relationships are glorified and this whole like passion and like falling in love and like fights and and one you know, or it's like a shitty marriage and one person is not happy and the other like, and there it just. I feel like in movies and shows, love is portrayed in a not healthy way and that could, you know, give people mixed messages. Oh is, is that what love needs, to feel like it needs? To be like chaotic.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:What I really loved about this show is you see two people that are in their thirties I'm assuming late thirties.
Speaker 2:Well, not in real life. I think they're both over 40. Kristen Belch.
Speaker 1:Right, but on the show I would assume let's say late thirties, early forties. Right, and you see two adults and they both clearly have their own traumas, working through their traumas, communicating. You know, you see Noah hot rabbi just addressing a lot of her insecurities head on and whereas, like what you would see in real life is a guy saying you know, if a guy catches a woman looking through his stuff, it's like, oh, you're fucking crazy, you're insecure, I can't be with you, or like some big blow up.
Speaker 2:Right, in his case, he validated her, he holds immense space for whatever she's going through, and there's several moments throughout the series where you think they're setting you up for that traditional tripping point, right. Well, this is going to be the thing. This is going to be the thing, this is going to be the thing. And up until you know the whole series so far, and obviously they leave us on a wild cliffhanger, None of it does Like. He handles it.
Speaker 1:He, he can and so does she, and so does she she responds in kind right, like they're both like actively working on being better people and partners, learning from their past mistakes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is which, like you said, is not very typical in TV. I was in shock.
Speaker 1:I was in shock at how healthy the communication is, how healthy the communication is and, like you said, all these different tipping points that would ruin a relationship and that we're so accustomed to seeing. Right, like she gets the ick from him. Right, it's literally the episode. It's called.
Speaker 2:The Ick she gets the ick from him.
Speaker 1:You know he was wearing a sports coat. He shows up with flowers and she didn't like the flowers or something like that.
Speaker 2:So it was the episode where he's meeting her parents right and he as a, you know, a traditional Jewish man, rabbi, with, you know, fundamental family values, recognizes this as a big moment and he didn't know it was coming. So then he tries to go above and beyond to impress her family. So he does a couple things that are above and beyond that she starts telling herself she's finding very unattractive, which, you know, the ick is hilarious. First of all, the phrase is just very funny. I didn't hear it until Love Island. I feel like it hasn't been around that long, but it's a, it's an eternal thing that has always been around. Once you catch that, that whiff of like, oh, this is something that I can't get past.
Speaker 1:It's very like in dating, as you know somebody who's experienced the ick. Once you experience the ick, it's almost impossible to go back.
Speaker 2:And maybe our listeners will correct me, but it feels like a uniquely female experience. Yes, I don't personally, and I could be wrong. Right, somebody tell me if I am.
Speaker 1:That's fine, I don't think it's Men get the ick, but it's not characterized as the ick. I don't feel like I've ever really had the ick.
Speaker 2:I don't know I've ever really had the ick, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It feels more of like You've never been like turned off by, like a chick.
Speaker 2:Not like in a where there's a thing that she does, where I'm just like, like she has like funky toenails or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, there's nothing like that specific, like bad breath or I don't know like nothing. That like comes, like you know well, into a relationship and then it's like, oh God, I can't get past this thing. I don't think and maybe my I'm looking at all my past relationships with rose colored glasses, but I don't think so. It feels like a more of a female centcentric thing that happens, but in any case she gets it and then he just busts through it, because reportedly this is something that once you catch, you cannot get rid of.
Speaker 1:And he calls her out on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in a lot of cases it feels like there is some self-sabotage at play when you get the ick, like you're looking for it almost, or it creeps up on you in a moment where you're like not sure you're having doubts or whatever you're getting scared because it's getting too real. And then you find a reason to get the ick and in this case he addresses it, he explains it, he validates what she's saying to him and then she just he busts right through it, right, and he's like I like you and yeah. It evaporates.
Speaker 1:And his way of doing is by being was by being vulnerable.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he took it and it was like in such a manly way, like I. That's the thing. If there's one thing that I, I w I would love people to take away from the show especially if you're single, how it's dating is supposed to be, whether you're a man or a woman, this is how you're supposed to communicate. This is how you're supposed to like, not push each other away. We all come into relationships with different traumas and bad experiences and we tend to project that into our new, our new partners, and so you can either push each other away and it doesn't work out, and then you're just going back in that cycle and going back to dating and the same shit happens over and over again, or you are in a healthy relationship and you work through that stuff Exactly, and they both seem to have done it in a very healthy way, which I loved.
Speaker 2:They really did. Let's let's go through some of the other parts that we really liked about the show outside of my healthy relationship the way that's portrayed beautiful chef's kiss the other parts that I really like about the, the, the show or the secondary characters. I think they're so well done. They get a lot of exposition and, um, a chance to to develop in in cool and some not so cool ways, but they're all interesting and one of the more interesting characters is Noah's, who is Adam Brody, his brother Sasha.
Speaker 1:Right, I love Sasha yeah.
Speaker 2:Who's just this giant bumbling like Kind of a dummy. Kind of a dummy, but also very sweet and probably a little bit smarter than he lets on, but feels like he's kind of comfortable being the big doting, like I'm the less achieving brother to the hot rabbi and has just some brilliant one liners in like every scene. But he also seems to develop this weird relationship with Adam Brody's love interest, Kristen Bell. Right, Kristen Bell has a sister. They both have a podcast together and his sister, or her sister, is kind of Her name is Morgan, yeah, Morgan kind of a neurotic older sister.
Speaker 1:Also hot shiksa tall.
Speaker 2:Yes, very blonde, but also kind of the second fiddle to Kristen Bell, just as Sasha is the second fiddle to Noah. But they end up with this weird relationship, right.
Speaker 1:Which is in my opinion and I told Tony this because at first it seemed like it was just like friendly and not flirtatious, and now, like they alluded at the last episode, that it's becoming a little bit more in in a way. They both acknowledge it, Right.
Speaker 2:They, they actually acknowledge what we're all thinking, which I thought was great, because the whole time they kind of teeter on this edge of like, are they going to hook up? Are they like going to really cross the line here, or are they just writing this in a way that is, that is a little over the line and we're just not supposed to care? Yeah, but then they address it. But like we're talking FaceTime, he's FaceTiming her behind his wife's back, acknowledging that he's hiding from his wife, while he's FaceTiming the sister of his brother's girlfriend and it feels very inappropriate, friend, and it's it feels very inappropriate. Fortunately, in my opinion, for the writing, they they do bring that to the surface and address it, but the whole time it was weird.
Speaker 1:It was just and right away I told you I'm like you realize this.
Speaker 2:This is inappropriate, okay, so like on that note, do you think men and married men and single women can be friends?
Speaker 1:Can married men and single women? Can a married man be friends with a single woman?
Speaker 2:A married man can be friendly with a single woman. If you're just like our age and have a single friend that you're like you go hang out with by yourself with, it's a little bizarre. Ultimately, for me it just doesn't even seem practical. In the first place, I barely have time to see the friends I would want to see, let alone would I create time to hang out with another female by myself like that. I I don't think it's blanketly wrong. I do think that it's I don't know the word. Yes, I do think it's possible.
Speaker 1:It's just she's miming no to the camera right now, for everyone listening I don't think it's appropriate you don't think it's appropriate at all unless you guys have been friends since like childhood and there's a clear you're not. There's no clear that there's never been a hookup, there's never been an attraction. I have friends, guy friend, I guess. No, none of them are single, you know like my friends, that I went to high school, that I you know that I was friends in high school. None of them are single.
Speaker 2:None of mine are. None of my friends from high school are single either, sorry, but again, I like I.
Speaker 1:Why would you hang up? Hang out with this person, with a single woman?
Speaker 2:That's not the same as being friends with somebody day to day, where you're just like hanging out like randomly, or you're going out like hey, I'm going out with my friends tonight and you're yes, it's a bit odd. I want to be able, I want to believe that there's space for that to exist, let's just say, 90% of the time it's probably not a good position to put yourself in Right.
Speaker 1:But I don't want to just like paint with a broad stroke and say that it's no way that's possible. Yeah, I'm sure there are some guys that are married, that have long friends from childhood and they get along with the wife and the kids and it's great. You know there are exceptions, sure, but I think generally, generally, I would stay away from it.
Speaker 2:Like if you're in your late thirties and you're married and you just make a new friend that happens to be a single female. That's probably going to get you into some hot water.
Speaker 1:I mean, clearly he had, you know, bad intentions, because he didn't. He was doing it behind his wife's back.
Speaker 2:I don't think he had bad intentions that I would disagree with a little bit. I don't think he had bad intentions because, ultimately, most of the things that he was doing behind his wife's back was in an effort to find out what was going on with his brother's relationship and ultimately end up saving his the two sisters relationship with each other because of the information that he got with all of his inappropriate communication. Yeah, so it like it worked out in a way that was beneficial to everybody, but it was still bizarre and it would never be a situation that anybody approved of, and on the show it kind of goes that way as well.
Speaker 1:Okay, so who else did you want to talk about?
Speaker 2:I mean. All the other characters are great. Kristen Bell's parents are hilarious.
Speaker 2:I won't go into it just because it's not necessary, but they're really funny. They're just funny characters. Sasha Adam Brody's brother, brother, his wife is also a great character and goes through like a pretty significant arc in the in one season, going from like the really mean uh, overbearing jewish wife, which we'll get into, to becoming more humanized throughout the season, like in terms of like okay, she has her reasons for the way she is and it's not just her just being a bitch all the time.
Speaker 2:It's like you know, this is. This is more complicated than that. She's obviously the other pieces. She's best friends with Adam Brody's ex, who is Jewish right, and friends with all of their friends. So they break up in the first episode, setting the table for him to meet somebody else, which happens to be Kristen Bell. So the extra layer there is his ex almost fiance funny opening scene is a friend of everyone involved and she's, you know, doing a little meddling throughout, that that doesn't turn out so good. But yeah, all the characters just wonderfully developed, well-written. Doing a little meddling throughout, that that doesn't turn out so good. Um, but yeah, all the characters just wonderfully developed, well-written.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about the obvious things that I guess disappointed me, but like I'm not surprised at the same time.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Um, it's how they portrayed Jewish women on the show. Yeah, and again, love the show overall, but I feel like why are the Jewish women in shows on TV, in movies, always portrayed the same, like in this case overbearing, marriage, obsessed, unwelcoming to people outside of you know the circle right Neur. Outside of you know the circle right neurotic. You know what I mean, all these different things. And then the shiksa is like this shiny blonde fun, funny, you know make hair, you know podcast and sex.
Speaker 1:Like like I'm jewish, I had a pod, you know, sex podcast. Like like you know what I'm saying. So like it's just like I understand what the creators of the show wanted to do is kind of show that that you know, I guess joanne is this like fun and different type of person and that's why what he was attracted to, but it it just continues this like, just continues this. Like, especially as a Jewish woman, it's just like this continuous thing, like since I'm a kid is like you know Jewish men, you know they, they want to end up with the Jewish woman. But the shiksa is like the, the. It's like the shiny toy, the shiny toy, right, you know. And it's like, oh, am I, am I not good enough for you? Like, am I not?
Speaker 2:And, to be clear, this is based on a true story. Right, right, this is a.
Speaker 1:It's loosely true story. So the creator of the show, her name is Erin Foster. She has a podcast with Sarah Foster. She actually converted to Judaism. She met her husband, Simon, like at the gym. He's not a rabbi. He's not a rabbi, he's like a music exec and it's based off of that.
Speaker 1:Okay so that is just literally that Right so the reason and I actually heard an interview with her on a podcast and she said that she was writing the story and they needed to up the stakes because having a rabbi ups the stakes, because it's having a hot, you know, a rabbi ups the stakes because it's not just his religion, it's his whole life, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it makes the decision a lot harder. It makes it makes the the. It adds to the conflict Right Now. If it was just a Jewish guy, it's not like he. Yes, marrying a Jew is could be important, but it's not like a huge life decision.
Speaker 2:The consequences are way lower, way lower, and especially in the case of Adam's character, where he literally right. As things are starting to get real serious between him and Kristen Bell, he gets promoted to head rabbi of his synagogue, yeah, which now the stakes are not just for him, it's for whoever he marries, because, as the head rabbi, that sort of passes the torch to him explains, they represent the synagogue. It's not just him, it's his family Like whatever family he creates, represents the congregation as well.
Speaker 2:And people look to that example as how to live their lives, and, fair or not fair, that's the position that he chose.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing. He made a choice, right? He made a choice he wanted to be a rabbi. He wanted to serve his community. Right? It's not an easy decision.
Speaker 1:Like you become a rabbibi, like this years of Torah study, studying, assuming, right, like that's it's a life dedication right and part of it is marrying a Jewish woman is is, you know, a Jewish woman that could be a Rebetzin, that can also serve the community, right? And so the opening scene, we see Rebecca, rebecca, his girlfriend, and you know she did something crazy Right and, like the first scene, you're like oh, wow, she, she did that, like she. So she went through his stuff and found the engagement ring and didn't guess, you know, she got tired of waiting for him to propose and she started wearing the engagement and she's like, yes, but you know, like let's not make a big deal out of it. And he freaked out and like they ended up breaking up, which is, I understand, which is understandable, like I, you know, as a divorced woman, I would never tell people to jump into marriages. If it doesn't, it doesn't work.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Now, from the get like on the first episode, you're right away you're like, oh, you're Rebecca's painted as this crazy woman, this crazy girlfriend, like you know, overbearing, but we don't really know. You know, and, and I felt, and I I had, that was the impression I got. And then, after hearing her speak in, like one of the other episodes where she talks to Joanne and said, like, like you know, you're going to have my, the life that I want. I want to be married to a rabbi, I want to serve my community, I want to, you know, serve the temple and and do all these things, like that was my dream. That's when I started feeling for her, which was the point, because, because not only does she love Noah more than anything, she also loves being Jewish and she loves her community. And that broke my heart in that second, you know, because what? What's going on? Bronx?
Speaker 2:is farting.
Speaker 1:Okay, good time to fart, but you know what I mean. So I felt for her because, like, and I was kind of upset at, like, the fact that I was like ew, like I got like the like ew, she's a crazy bitch. And then I realized no, she wasn't, she had a dream, that's good writing. It is very good writing.
Speaker 2:That's what they wanted they elicited the initial response to her and got it out of you and then later went back to the depth.
Speaker 1:It's very good writing, but let's talk about the way they portrayed Jewish women.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I mean, what did you think?
Speaker 2:So for me it felt almost cartoony to a point, to the point where it's like, okay, I see what they're doing, like it felt transparent that that's what they were doing, that they were playing out, especially with his mom like Bina, like they went overboard with the overbearing Jewish mom thing, but also in a way that kind of made sense right, like even you were saying I kind of see myself being this way, but they, they really amp up those those sort of characteristics to a point where I felt like it was like okay, this is, this is playing on the stereotypical, like Jewish American family, jewish American family it's hard for me to say, because this isn't something that I grew up with.
Speaker 1:The thing is, I wasn't offended. It gets tiring and I think if I were to watch this show at a different time maybe pre-October 7th, pre-antisemitism, pre-all the stuff that we're dealing with maybe I would have been like, okay, tongue-in-cheek, that's cute, whatever. But now, like we're so uber sensitive with everything going on and how we're, you know people portray us and almost in a character you know, portray Jews like as caricatures, and to see another show do that is exhausting. It is, and I know many women reached out to me to ask me for my opinion and and they loved it, but they had these feelings of like I wish, I wish it wasn't so like caricature cartoony you know, and here's the thing we're, we're Jews, aren't?
Speaker 1:we're 0.2% of the population, right? And if every single movie and tv show portrays us the fucking same, you know what I mean? The bagel jews, yeah, right, so you don't really see the other mizrahi jews, you don't see that like the rich cult, the ethiopian, you don't see like that and and it just plays into the tropes and and we're in the media fighting that we're like no, we're not just white, we're, we're this, we're that. You know, we have a rich history and we're from Judea, like all these things that we're struggling right now is because constantly in Hollywood they portray us the same. Do you know what I'm saying? And I think if there were, if people had a wide view of what being Jewish is, that it's just colorful and and and complex.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And not so focused on the bagel Jew aspect of it.
Speaker 2:The. Thing is.
Speaker 1:This show is not about.
Speaker 2:Judaism. It is, though, but it's not. This show is about the complexity of relationships and, ultimately, what it means to be in a healthy relationship. Judaism is a vehicle to propel the conflict, to propel the tension, to propel all of the things that make it hard. Right, that is a vehicle, a vessel for it, and based on a real life experience. The messaging is not to, in my opinion, is not to be, a representation of Judaism as a whole. In my opinion, is not to be a representation of Judaism as a whole. It is literally just this specific example of it, based on somebody's real experience, right, so I also have to believe this was written before, well before it was yeah, Right.
Speaker 2:So I understand why it, why people Jewish women would have a complicated relationship with the way that's portrayed. But I also believe that, like, judaism is a part of the show, but it's not the part of the show. It just feels like a larger part of the show because of the time that we're watching it in. But I completely understand why Jewish women would take exception to that style of portrayal.
Speaker 1:But if it's based on real experience, real life, it's like it's not so like she was saying that she loves her mother-in-law so much that she didn't. She had to make up a whole, you know character. You know what I mean. So, like, bina is not really based on on anything, right.
Speaker 2:But without Bina? How do you drive the conflict more it, how do you?
Speaker 1:drive the conflict more, it's true. Like you're kind of confined to the, to the, to the body of work that you have, and it was so crazy because the whole time I'm watching it, like you, I wanted to root for them, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But there's a part of me that wasn't rooting for them.
Speaker 2:And go on.
Speaker 1:There's a part of me that was like just let the shiksa go and I married the shiksa. So like I'm not a rabbi, I'm not a rabbi and also, according to Jewish law, my kids are Jewish.
Speaker 2:No matter what.
Speaker 1:No matter what Right, but when a man marries a non-Jewish woman, the kids have to, the woman has to convert or the kids have to convert. It's a whole, it's a whole thing. It's a mess. It's much harder, right, right, and of course, I think, if, if, if a kid has a Jewish father, I think they're Jewish, but again, of course it's not. That's not how it is according to Jewish law, right? So you see a man like a rab, you know, and you see hot, adam bro, and you know I'm right If I'm making this person into. Of course it's just a show, it's not real life. But I'm thinking at, you know, adam Brody, hot rabbi, great guy, just great fucking guy. Would be an amazing husband, amazing father and and it's like, oh, he's wasting that on on a non-Jew. We need Jews. We need Jews Like we're right now in this. Like survival, we have our survival incident. It's like I can't even explain, like there's no logic behind me thinking this way.
Speaker 2:No, here's what it is Now. You know what the fans of the Cleveland Cavaliers felt like when LeBron James left Cleveland to go to Miami.
Speaker 1:Babe, I don't know sports, I don't know sports, I don't do sports. I'm telling you, okay, well, I don't.
Speaker 2:It's like having your best player being traded to another team. Exactly right, so?
Speaker 1:you see this, this, this mensch of a man, and you want him to have a ton of Jewish babies and he wasted on like a blonde chick. We don't need another one of those. There's plenty all over the world. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's not many good Jewish men, so it's like, ah, single Jewish men. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not the majority of Jewish men aren't good, it's just there's not very many of them.
Speaker 1:There's just not. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So, you see this guy and you're kind of like, oh like, you know what is she going to help the community? You know what I'm saying. How is she going to help the community? And uh, and the other thing of what that pissed me off, like the last episode where he decides to leave being a rabbi for this woman, and that's that pissed me off. You made like, like you decided to be a rabbi, you made a vow to your people, to your temple, right, and it's something that you wanted to do, that you were passionate about doing since he was a kid.
Speaker 1:It's not like, oh, I'm an accountant and I'm going to leave accounting, this is a rabbi, this is like he. He, he had the ability, he got promoted to be head rabbi, which is all he talked about the whole season, and then suddenly Kristen Bell decides she doesn't want to. What's her name? Joanne doesn't want to convert and he just like says he's going to quit. Like how is that going to work in five years when, after they're out of the honeymoon phase and he's going to wake up and he's going to be working a shit job, like a job that's not fulfilling going to wake up and he's going to be working a shit job, like a job that's not fulfilling. You know what I mean? Like he wasn't, he's in a spiritual position and he's going to. What is he going to do?
Speaker 2:I don't know. We have to wait till season two, which is no-transcript.
Speaker 1:And I love the healthy relationship aspect and they had such good chemistry and such good banter. But the underlying thing is that maybe I don't want it to work. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 1:You know, maybe I want him to marry a nice Jewish woman and stay in the temple and have a bunch of Jewish kids and help, you know, continue our survival.
Speaker 2:Hashem has other plans.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, do you think I'm a hypocrite?
Speaker 2:No, I think you're allowed to feel that way. No, I think you're allowed to feel that way.
Speaker 1:Listen, like you've pointed out, there are a lot of differences between what he's doing and what you did.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? You're not a rabbi. You didn't choose to be a spiritual leader of your people and accept that position and commit your life to the word of God in that way and lead a community where he did. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And also, like I changed a lot post-October 7th and we talked about it on the last episode.
Speaker 2:Rabbi Noah probably has different feelings now, post-october 7th as well. Who knows?
Speaker 1:And yeah, I mean, we talk about you converting sometimes.
Speaker 2:We talk about that. It's in the ether, it's in the field. See where it goes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Listen. Overall, the show is fantastic.
Speaker 1:I can't wait for season two. Oh my God, season two.
Speaker 2:And honestly, the whole time I'm watching it, I just watched it as a continuation of Seth Cohen, like that's Seth Cohen's journey.
Speaker 1:He's so cute, this is just the post.
Speaker 2:Oc Seth Cohen.
Speaker 1:I'm obsessed with him Like I love him he plays the exact same character.
Speaker 1:And what's like amazing is the way and like one thing that I loved about watching the show and seeing Noah and the way he communicates with Joanne and the way he talked to her and the way he, you know, still Like had that he communicates with Joanne and the way he talked to her and the way he, you know, still like had that masculine energy but also had that like sensitivity. It reminded me of you and I was like, oh, that's what it's like.
Speaker 2:That's what it looks like.
Speaker 1:I think you could be an amazing rabbi, actually 100% You'd be an incredible spiritual leader. But I'm just saying, like the way, like like I look back on the beginning of our relationship, like we both came with our own traumas but we really communicated in a healthy way and a lot of it came from also you holding space for me and not, you know, getting scared when I, let's say, looked through your phone. You know.
Speaker 1:Hypothetically looked through your phone. You know hypothetically, no, I definitely looked through your phone, like, so there's one scene where he's like check my phone, and he's like and she holds his phone and he, like, gives her the password. Literally the same thing fucking happened when me and tony started dating yeah he gave me his phone, he's's like this is my password.
Speaker 1:And I was in shock because, like you know, in previous relationships, like the guy would hide the phone or like you know what I mean, like all kinds of shady or like turn off notification. I've listened, I've dealt with every fucking situation and so when Tony gave me his phone and gave me his password, I was like I felt like hot coals, like I didn't know what to do with it. You know, and that's exactly like that scene, and and it, it and you saw her like suddenly she was like oh yeah, I can trust this guy.
Speaker 2:Like through with this now.
Speaker 1:I don't want to.
Speaker 2:yeah, I don't want to look at it.
Speaker 1:I don't want to look at it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so strong recommend on that one.
Speaker 1:Of course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good show.
Speaker 1:Of course it's great. Like I said, love that. Obviously, there's things that bother me about it.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I think, I think you too, you know you can. There are two things can be.
Speaker 2:Definitely.
Speaker 1:Truth right, like I'm looking forward to seeing if there's going to be another season and how they they develop that. And, yeah, I think a lot of women like me, jewish women who saw. So it's funny, cause I spoke to Jewish women and I spoke to a few non-Jewish women who were curious, like how I felt about it and they're like, oh, we loved it, it was super cute. But I'm curious, like you know, with everything going on, how you felt about it. So I could see that if you're not jewish, you could see it and not see it as like problematic or offensive in any way. Right, and that's just this cute thing. But but having still that awareness that, yes, it could offend some people, you know what I mean, yeah, yeah, because jew, jewish women rock. We're awesome.
Speaker 2:Cover broad spectrum.
Speaker 1:You know, we, we, and there's some, some blonde Jews and and spicy Jews, and I had a sex podcast and I have tattoos, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got tattoos.
Speaker 1:I got tattoos Um so yeah.
Speaker 2:Cool, leave anything out.
Speaker 1:I think that's it.
Speaker 2:All right, there you go. Surprise podcast Nobody wanted this episode.
Speaker 1:Nobody wanted this episode.
Speaker 2:All right, catch you next week. Peace, peace, thank you.