Ever feel like you're the only one feeling the pinch of societal pressures? You're not alone. In this episode Courtney coaches Glo, a vibrant 30-year-old woman from the Dominican Republic. Glo has a deep desire to be a wife and mother, but unfortunately her life is not moving at the pace she wants. She's battling cultural expectations and constant societal pressures to conform to certain milestones, which turns into discontent and feelings of envy.
Embrace the power of perspective as we dive into an intimate coaching session, guiding Glo towards contentment and shifting the lens from a place of lack to one of gratitude.
Let's spark a conversation about the impact of social norms on self-perception and explore the liberating power of finding our identities in Christ.
Ever feel like you're the only one feeling the pinch of societal pressures? You're not alone. In this episode Courtney coaches Glo, a vibrant 30-year-old woman from the Dominican Republic. Glo has a deep desire to be a wife and mother, but unfortunately her life is not moving at the pace she wants. She's battling cultural expectations and constant societal pressures to conform to certain milestones, which turns into discontent and feelings of envy.
Embrace the power of perspective as we dive into an intimate coaching session, guiding Glo towards contentment and shifting the lens from a place of lack to one of gratitude.
Let's spark a conversation about the impact of social norms on self-perception and explore the liberating power of finding our identities in Christ.
I'm Courtney Markley, and this is the Heart of Money. Talking about money can be really hard and uncomfortable, but it doesn't need to be. The problem is, we're taught to think about money in terms that are too much like science, with rules and regulations, and not enough like psychology, with emotions and nuance. Join me on my mission to change the way we talk about money, one conversation at a time. Hello everyone, and welcome to the Heart of Money podcast. I am your host, courtney Markley, and with me today I have Glo.
Speaker 2:Welcome, glo, hi Courtney. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1:Yes, we're so glad that you're here. So during our time today we're actually gonna be doing a real coaching session. So you are someone we met actually through a Bible study and I love your heart and I love your heart for Jesus. And recently I just reached out and said hey, Glo, can I coach you? Like what would we talk about? Are you interested in inviting us into your life a little bit? And thankfully you didn't run away screaming. You said yes and so thank you so much for inviting our listeners into your life and into our money conversation today. I really appreciate it. And just to start setting the tone a little bit, the backstory for our coaching session could you tell us just a little bit about yourself?
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course. When you asked me if I wanted to be coached, I immediately responded yes, because I need coaching in so many different areas of my life and, specifically, money is always the one that is hardest I feel like to ask for help for, and to know who to ask for help to is very difficult, so it's one of the areas in my life that I probably am not the most comfortable and vulnerable with as much as I am with other things. So, with that being said, I am currently in school, finishing my last year of grad school, so I'm switching over from working in public relations and customer service for a few years and I am gonna be a teacher. I'm 30, I'm single, I live in Columbus, ohio, hoopoo, and I have been here for a few years, but originally I'm from New Jersey, so moved a lot and I've been here for the longest.
Speaker 1:Very good and, if you could, what's your favorite thing about living in Columbus?
Speaker 2:I really like how people here are just so much nicer Aw.
Speaker 1:And the Midwest. Sorry, New Jersey and the Midwest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sorry. The Midwest is just people are generally kind and say hi and that's just not what I'm used to. I remember I thought it was really weird at first, Like I did not trust it. And now sometimes I walk around and it's still a little weird, because sometimes I'm just like in a bad mood and I like want to walk around and just be alone and then I'll run into someone being extremely friendly and kind. I'm like dang it.
Speaker 1:So, like you look like you need a hug. What's your name? Yeah, I love that. I love that so much. Well, very good. So you are 30, you're single. You're about to graduate from grad school. Like you know, the whole world is in front of you. It's a good time to be glow, it seems like. So tell me, what problem could we solve together today? What's a question that you want to invite us into?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, with being the age that I'm in and I forgot to mention my family is Dominican, so I come from a Hispanic household where my grandmother got married when she was 14. My mom got married like in her early 20s. Like being 30 and single is not something that is generally like accepted or seeming as okay, and it's definitely something that I am frustrated about because I'm like, okay, god, like everyone's married, everyone's getting married, everyone's having kids. Like my little sister is 23 and she's pregnant and she got married last year. Like it just, you're my little sister, what do you mean? You're getting married and you're having a child. Like it's just, I'm the one that's supposed to be doing that first.
Speaker 2:And it's something that I don't like to talk about because I should be happy, I should be content with where my life is, because I know I also have a lot of great things in my life, that I'm very fortunate to have an education and to be pursuing my career and I have a lot of great things in my life. But for some reason, I just always look at the lack and, specifically in my life, just seeing everyone get married and have children and buy houses and I want that and I struggle a lot with envy and I know that's definitely not something I'm proud of, but it is real and it makes it very hard to appreciate my life. And, like you said, I mean it is a good time to be glow, but like I can't seem to find that joy right now.
Speaker 1:Hmm, thank you so much for sharing that. I know that's hard Sometimes. It's hard to just even say it loud, right Of like. This is my thing, this is the thing that I'm struggling with, and it's not always good, but it's real. We want real right, because we all have our thing, and so I appreciate you just bringing it to the table today. Tell me, how is this affecting you and you're in your day to day living?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think I try to just push it aside. And one thing I like to remind myself to is like I have to be the best me that I can right now, especially for my kids. Like I'm student teaching right now and I'm in a classroom in the morning and then I go to work and then I have class. So like I'm constantly, I have to be around people all day, every day, and I have to be my best self and I have to take care of that. So I'm someone that I don't hide my emotions.
Speaker 2:So if I'm having a bad day or if I'm feeling sad or if I'm feeling down, like people know and it's an issue and it's something that I definitely need help with because especially the kids I went to a conference recently and one of the things that they said that has kept ringing in my ear was like the most generous thing you could do for them is to take care of yourself. But I'm not really doing a good job at that, to be honest. It's just something that I know I need to do, but taking care of me has been the last thing on my to do list this semester.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm, sure, you said that you wear your emotions on your sleeve and so when you're having a bad day, it's kind of a problem. So tell me a bit more, give me some more specifics, if you could expand on that a little bit.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm not someone that like yells or like extra in that way I am extra, but I'm not going to like as she flips.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to raise my voice, I'm not going to be this stereotypical Latina that's going to be like screaming and yelling Sure, sure. I just get really angry and very like quiet and people notice because they ask me how I'm doing and I'll just be like I'm here or I'm not well, like I'm not going to be like oh yeah, everything's great, like no, I'm struggling. I did not wake up feeling my best today and I mean this is like the overarching issue that I have. But there's also other things that just kind of happen and things that are unexpected in my life, like my best friend passing away unexpectedly in September.
Speaker 2:That's something that also I'm carrying with me and it's just like God, like that's another thing that I question him to because like she was 30. She was single, she wasn't married, she didn't have kids, like, and then she just passed away and I have that feeling too, I will. What makes me feel like I'm entitled or that I need that or I'm going to get that if she didn't. So that's something, too, that I carry with me and sometimes I just step away and I cry. I go to my car and cry. I've been doing that a lot lately because that just seems what I have to release, what I'm feeling in some way, and I don't want to like take it out on someone who doesn't deserve that.
Speaker 1:It does impact my everyday in some way, like mm-hmm, sure, thank you for sharing this glow and my heart is heavy for you, especially with your friend passing, because that is very sobering. Right To say, we were the same age and if you just, you know, looked at our lifestats, if you went on a piece of paper, you know we looked very similar, right, that has to be very, very sobering. And they say you go to your car, you cry. Is that solely to do with your friend's passing, because that's absolutely understandable, or is there other things that you're bringing into that too?
Speaker 2:I think that definitely is usually one of the biggest reasons, but I think for me too, it's just been like I felt very alone and she was like my go-to person and right now I'm not really doing well with reaching out to people when I'm feeling down or when I'm feeling like this.
Speaker 2:I've been trying to go to God because this situation has really forced me to and has also shown me, like how much I thought I was okay with God, but like when stuff got real, I felt like so shattered and so broken and so alone I'm like I guess I wasn't as close to God as I thought, because this feels unbearable, like this feels like I'm not going to get through it and through that I've realized that God is always there and even if it had to be a horrible situation or a sad situation, like I'm grateful that I still have a chance to talk to Him and to reach Him when I'm feeling like this. So I've just been going to Him and giving Him my emotions, giving Him everything, because if I'm not going to hide my emotions to people, like I'm definitely not going to hide my emotions to God, you're going to get it all.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's really good. So, if I'm hearing you correctly, especially with your friends passing, it sounds like maybe that has put a little bit of a magnifying glass up to this underlined feeling of I feel alone and potentially also recognizing that God hasn't always been as close. You don't feel as close to Him as you have, and so this has created more of an opportunity for you to draw closer to Him. Is that right?
Speaker 1:Yeah absolutely Good, good. So tell me, what specific thoughts and feelings do you have right now, especially at the beginning? Struggle with being content and single and I'm struggling with envying people. So tell me a bit more. What are some of those triggers that you're having throughout the day that might spark that feeling of discontentment or that feeling of envy?
Speaker 2:Well, yesterday actually, it came up and it called my friend because I was having a bad day, I was feeling really overwhelmed, and she told me that, well, at first we talked about that, and then she told me that she had like a pregnancy test that she wanted to take, and then she just proceeded to take it on the phone with me.
Speaker 1:She found out she was pregnant. What are best friends for you? On the phone with me, I love it so much. Okay, yes.
Speaker 2:It was amazing and I am genuinely happy for her because this is something that we prayed for and it's Like she thought she wasn't going to be able to have children and I literally have in my phone in my notes, like praying for this person for this reason forgot to open up her womb, and it was just such an answered prayer and I genuinely was so excited and happy and it literally made my day, made my day go from me my pity party to just being happy for my friend.
Speaker 2:But at the same time it just reminded me again like after that, not in the moment, because in the moment I was really happy for her, but then, like later on that night, I was like hey, someone else is pregnant. I'm still not, I'm, there's still no prospect for me. And then that also triggered some feelings of just knowing that I have that longing in my heart and it's just not been met and just feeling like kind of defeated. And at that moment I was like, ok, god, like here come the tears, and I just cried out to the Lord I'm like I just need you to be enough, because I'm so broken, I'm so hurt, I'm so alone and you're all I have right now. I know there's nothing that a human being can provide me right now that will make it better, or say anything that will make it better, like I just need to know that you're here, and that was my prayer, and then I wanted to sleep.
Speaker 1:It's a very raw, very real prayer and I feel like so many single people have prayed right. I just want God to be enough. I don't want to have to feel this pain.
Speaker 2:Like I don't want to feel emptiness, Like I don't want to like live being single and being miserable being single.
Speaker 1:Tell me let's dive into this a bit more, if you're OK with that. You mentioned at the beginning that you're a family from the Dominican, and this is somewhat of a cultural expectation, right, that you're going to be married really young, yeah, ok, so tell me a bit more about this. Was this something that was verbalized to you as a child growing up, or was it something that you just witnessed when you're looking at you know aunts, uncles, you know cousins, grandparents, parents. Tell me a bit more. How did this thought really become ingrained into you?
Speaker 2:Well, there's this term I don't think that there is an English term that can translate, but it's basically a woman who is older, who is single. Ok, there's like a derogatory term that is used for that Sure, and I've been called that before not by my like immediate family, it's more like extended family or they're worried that I will become that. I haven't been to the Dominican Republic in a while. I've been visiting other places because I know as soon as I go there, my aunts are going to be like what is wrong? Like what are you doing? Like you're 30. This is unheard of, this is unvaluable. And family friends, like it's just like the older generation. Every time I catch up with them, they're like oh yeah, how are you doing? Oh, you know, I'm in school, I'm about to be a teacher, I'm going to graduate, and they're like well, where's your boyfriend? Like where is your husband? Why don't you have one? Why aren't you dating? That's another thing.
Speaker 2:I don't date because I don't want to. I don't believe in that. I want to do things God's way, not the world's way. So I don't join any apps or do anything like I really am just trusting the Lord. But at the same time, then I also get criticism for that. Well, you're not doing anything to like make this desire happen or make it real for you. So it's just a lot, because if I don't do what the world wants me to do, then I'm criticized. But then if I'm doing what I feel like God has told me to do, which is just wait on him, I don't feel content with that either, and I'm just questioning it and questioning God and questioning if he's good, if he's really here, if he's going to fulfill my desires. So I'm just kind of like in that weird space right now too, with singleness.
Speaker 1:Yes, you're hearing from extended family, from people in your culture, basically looking at you and saying, like what's wrong with this girl, right? What's she missing? Why doesn't she have this yet? What's going on? Does it make you question yourself at all?
Speaker 2:I was just about to say that, yeah. And then when I hear that I also look internally and I'm like, well, what areas in my life are just so unappealing Like? What about me? What about my personality? What about my character? Is keeping this from me?
Speaker 1:Okay. So what about? My character is keeping this from me. So really it starts to spiral more into like this self doubt oh, what's wrong with me? Why haven't I you know, everyone else has this figured out. What's wrong with me? What do you think God would have to say about that? I know.
Speaker 2:God loves me and I know that he would not be okay with me thinking that of myself, because he doesn't create people who are not in his image. We have value, we have worth. But I guess I would hope that he would understand that I'm trying to like just be the best person that I can be, and I'm not perfect. I do have flaws and I really just want to I wouldn't say fix my flaws, because that's not ever going to be perfect, but at least be aware of the things that I can improve on, without doubting myself or without thinking that I'm not enough. I don't know, to be honest. I don't know what he would say, just saying things, but I don't think he'd be okay with me feeling like this, or he is okay with me feeling like this.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this, and it might be hard for you to imagine, just based on your life experience that up until this point, but let's say, you had grown up in a different culture, where all of the women were expected to go to college and earn their degrees and they're not getting married till 35. Okay, but that's a culture that you grew up in. Alright, I'm transplanting you for a moment. How would you be feeling about yourself then? Would you still have this like deep longing, this need for a husband, or would you be saying to yourself you know what? I'm actually right on track.
Speaker 2:So if everything was the same, I still felt this way, but then my culture was just different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's say that you're still 30, you're still glow, you're still about to graduate school, but instead of having a family, that's, you know, all women who have married very young and started families very young. It's all women who have first set out to have careers. They, you know, want to get a bit more established, a bit older in life and they all are kind of setting the standard that you know what? In our family, we get married at 35. That's the standard for these women. Would you still be feeling the same way? I don't think so.
Speaker 2:No, I would have a way different outlook on everything. Yeah, I wouldn't be comparing myself to anyone, because everyone is in the same place as me or has a different mentality.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember it when I was much younger and you know I got married super young too. I was 19 when I got married and I worked at a bridal salon at the time in Chicago, and all of the brides that I was helping at the time they were all 30 plus. Most of them were like Brian, that's sweet spot, like 35 ish, and they would look at me and they'd be like what are you doing married? You're way too young for this. You shouldn't have done that yet, you know, and it was funny because I always got like the opposite comments of like what are you doing with your life? You know, because it was just a different culture, that's all it was.
Speaker 1:It was just a different culture with people who grew up with just different you know things that quote unquote were normal, right, most of the women that I was working with, they all had, you know, very good degrees and you know they were doing all these things for their career and like, absolutely not. Do they have kids? Of course not, absolutely not. Had they, you know, had time to get married yet? That wasn't a thing yet. So it was just funny, just being, you know, translated for a moment in this other culture and being like oh now, I'm the odd one out. That's really strange, right, and it just depends on who your family is and where you grew up. Right For what we consider to be quote unquote, normal right, yeah, yeah, wow, that would be great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wish I had that job.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm just telling you that there are places in the world where you would go and you would not be looked at twice. You know what I'm saying? Like no one would think like, oh, what's wrong with that girl? She's not married yet. They'd say, oh, look at her, she's doing so great at life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be great, I think my culture and my surroundings definitely have a big impact on why I feel this way. And also, something that just kind of came up too is just thinking about like womanhood compared to what the Bible says, to like what the world says. I'm not someone who considers myself a feminist, but like in the feminist world, this is like the ideal thing, like oh, you're unmarried, you have a career going for yourself. Like you don't have a man, like you don't need any of that, like women that's not what defines being a woman, and seeing being a mother and being a wife is actually seen as like old school and like that's not expected. So I don't align with that view. But I also feel like I'm the perfect like token for that person right now and I don't want to be I don't want to be the ambassador of the feminist movement.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's so funny. I get that. I absolutely get that. At the same time, you know, when we're reading scripture and we want to be careful not to say, all right, our sole purpose in life is to get married and have kids, because it's not. Our sole purpose in life is to, you know, live a righteous, holy life in obedience to the Lord with whatever he's blessed us with. If that means having a family, great. If it means not having a family, great, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we have to kind of recenter, because there are plenty of women who haven't ever found that right person and so they just choose not to get married because they haven't found that person and so they haven't had kids. And does it mean that their life is any less valuable than mine or yours or anyone else's? Right? Yeah, that's very true. So I think we put a lot of these burdens and a lot of these stresses on ourselves because of this society that we live in. Right, because of the people who we surround ourselves with, you know, our families and people who love us and mean really well, right. But God is saying he's looking up, saying like I never put those burdens on you, I think keeping my mind focused on God is what gives me purpose.
Speaker 2:And I think to myself too. Like even if I did have these desires in my heart, if my focus wasn't God, I wouldn't be able to steward it well. I would be freaking out every chance I got, with all the things that come with having children and being a wife. Like if God wasn't centering me, if my purpose wasn't to be righteous before his eyes and him alone, then how can I serve them? Like I would be a hot mess. And that's not really something I think about when I'm just like why me God? Like what's wrong with me? Like I don't necessarily think about how I would actually be in that situation.
Speaker 1:And it's good to think about because you know, I've seen it so many times glow of where you know someone's been praying for something forever, right, maybe it's a spouse, maybe it's a child, or you know the dream job, or whatever it is. And then, as soon as they get it, it's like there's this brief moment of celebration, there's this brief moment of gratitude, and then we almost immediately move on to the next thing. Right, like, oh Lord, thank you so much for giving me this husband, but like, now I need a baby. Why don't I have a baby? Okay, thank you so much for giving me this baby, but now I need a house for my husband and my baby. Like, why haven't you given us this house yet? Right, and do you see how we can continue to just kick the can down the road? A bit of like, but now I don't have this, but now I don't have this, and so you're right.
Speaker 1:It's all about the mindset going into it of he hasn't promised us anything necessarily in terms of you know specifics Are you going to own a home? Are you going to have a spouse? Are you going to have a thousand babies? He hasn't promised us anything specific in that area, but he has promised to give us enough. Whatever we need is enough. Those more are we in tune with here, in our father's voice, or we in tune with his heart and recognizing that what we have is enough to serve him? He's not going to ask us to go do something that we aren't capable of doing or something that he hasn't provided us to do.
Speaker 2:I was reading something about that the other day, about how God doesn't promise us these things, and I mean, I've heard so many testimonies of God revealing people who they're going to marry one day, and that's actually something that happened with my sister, and I've always heard that my surroundings, like God, told me who my person is, I just don't know when, and it's like I don't know. It made me think, and you saying that now also makes me think of that too, and it's like does he just not promise it for everyone, or does he promise it to some people, like how does that work?
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. Yeah, Well, let's back up a little bit and reframe and say you know what is your purpose in life? I know that's a big question, but what do you believe your purpose in life is?
Speaker 2:It's a good question. I thought I knew, but right now I really am just trying to take it day by day and do whatever I'm supposed to do that day and not think too much about big picture. What I'm supposed to be doing with my entire life, mm-hmm. But God, what do you need me to do today? Mm-hmm, because this is what I got. I don't know about tomorrow.
Speaker 1:He's not asking us to have it all figured out. He is asking us to come to him and say right, this is what I got today. You're doing it. So I think the question comes down to is that enough for you? Is God enough for you? Can you be content with that If every day, you show up and say God, here's my open hands, this is what I have for you today, what do you want me to do? And you continue to walk in obedience and walk close with him? Is that enough?
Speaker 2:It needs to be. I want it to be. I think if it was, if he was enough, it wouldn't matter what's going on around me. The whole world could be getting pregnant. I would be in all those weddings, that's right. That's right. But I would be okay because I have everything that I need and that is that's what I want. That's my prayer is. I want to genuinely be there for my people and not allow envy to take away from the relationships that I have. That's good.
Speaker 1:I think that you're in this season. I think it's a really gracious season. I think this is a big gift that you've been given to really lean into the Lord and ask Him okay, who am I? What do you see me as? How do you see me as being valuable? Tell me who my identity is. Who am I?
Speaker 1:Because I unpack this with a lot of married moms. It's very easy to lose yourself when you're a mom and forget who you are. But I remind them that you were you before you ever got married. You were you before you ever became a mom. Your identity has not changed. Your self-worth has not changed because you have a baby or because you have a husband. So I think you've been given this really beautiful opportunity to really embrace that and come from this place of confidence to say this is me, this is glow. One day I might be glow with a baby or I might be glow with a husband, but my identity doesn't change. My mission in life doesn't change. The way that God sees me doesn't change. Do you feel that? Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2:And honestly, you just saying that reminded me of because obviously I've been single for a long time, like I've never been in a real relationship and just been waiting on God. But there was a point in my life where I wasn't sad about it. I was just like this is my superpower, like this is a good thing, this is inspirational. I can be strong and be happy and be myself and not depend on someone else. Like I remember I had such a different outlook on it before and I think as time progressed and I was like okay, I'm not 19 anymore, this isn't fun anymore.
Speaker 2:This isn't a caption on Instagram, or back then it wasn't my space.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, exactly. Oh, you're aging us. Glow, you're aging us, I know.
Speaker 2:I remember I had my status when I was like I'm on my space as single and not interested. That's amazing and I want to have some of that again, maybe a little bit toned down. But I do want to be someone who is genuinely just happy with where God has me right now. And I know people who are like that and I'm just like are you really like that? Because this is hard. But I do want to become that and I don't want singleness to just be something I'm getting through or praying through Like it's like a burden, because I know I'm not the only one and I don't want that message.
Speaker 2:I mean, I want people to know like it's hard because it is. It's not something that I want to hide, but I don't want to be miserable and I don't want to send that message that this is okay to be this way because it's not. I don't think it is. I don't think God wants us to be that way. But I'm here, but we're here because I know I'm not the only one. How can God be enough? How can we have a different outlook than what we currently have?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I just encourage you to lean into that more in your prayers and recognize well, one of the promises that we do have from the Bible is that God is enough. He's already told us that, so it's a matter of all right. What do we maybe need to let go of in order to make him enough? You know, is there something that we've put above him? Is there something that we've been pursuing more than we've been pursuing him Right? So maybe let's lean into that for a moment before I take you off the hot seat for today. You know, is there anything getting in your way of just absolutely pursuing him with everything that you have? Anything that you maybe need to let go of?
Speaker 2:I think I've been holding on to this way too tightly and I do need to let this go. And if it's God's will, then it'll happen, and if not, then it won't. But I need to not allow this to continue hindering my walk with God, my view of God.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I just imagine you going into your prayer time or maybe it's in your car, right, when you're having those moments of just lamenting to him and you're just open hands, right, and they're saying, like Father, I'm giving this over to you Because we have to remember that the enemy is really, really smart, unfortunately, he's really good at knowing just how to attack us when our moments of vulnerability, right, and so in those moments where he's like you know, glow, your life would just be so much easier if you had a husband, or you know, everyone would just value you so much more if you had all these babies with you. You know, that's if it's a lie, okay. And let me tell you, marriage is just as hard I'm pretty sure, I don't know, maybe harder because you now have another person with a whole, too, you know, set of issues, right? There's no perfect married person. Let me tell you that I just want to make that clear of.
Speaker 1:We tend to make these things in our head like very ideal, like like everything in my life would be perfect, everything in my life would be so much better if I had this thing. And then we get it, and then we're like why don't I feel more fulfilled Because I thought this other person was supposed to complete me. And I'm still feeling a certain way about some stuff, you know, and it's again, it's like oh yeah, it's because I also married another broken human being and we're trying to now mesh this life together and it's hard, it's really, really hard. So I just want to, like, speak that into you a little bit of like, also recognize if that temptation or if that voice ever creeps in, you know that discontentment that says you know your life would just be so much better if you finally had this. Or you know God must be mad at you because you don't have this or this or this, like those things are just flat out lies, okay, do you feel that?
Speaker 2:I do. They sound real, they sound true, but they're lies.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He knows how to say, and he knows how to say it to get me to believe it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So when those things start happening, when you start hearing those little voices in your head, you know whatever it is like. Just ask yourself, like can that be found in scripture? Is that actually true, or is that just a lie? That the enemy's feeding me? Okay, that's good. All right, my dear, tell me what's a takeaway from today's session.
Speaker 2:I think what you said at the end is what I really am going to take away from this is there's no perfect marriage and it's also hard, and even in those moments I will have to go to God. So I have to make a habit of just letting go and giving it to him Like that's. What I need to do is just let go and let him be enough and fight those lies.
Speaker 1:Hey man, girlfriend, and my prayer for you, Glaw, is just that you begin to really see yourself the way that God sees you. Okay, I need that Because you are beautiful and you are special and you are unique and you are an incredibly valuable daughter of Christ. Thank you, absolutely. Thank you so much, glaw, just for inviting us into this conversation. I know it's not an easy one to have, but I believe that you are just voicing what so many people are feeling right now. So thank you so much for just being bold and being brave and showing up the way that you did.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for allowing me to have this space, because I needed it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Anytime, and thank you, listeners, for walking with us today. I just so appreciate you guys leaning in listening to Glaw's story and as you're listening and as you're reflecting on today's session, I would just encourage you to pray and ask God. You know what is something in my life that I've maybe been holding on to too tightly that's been stabbing me from just chasing after God with all that I have. That is my prayer for you all. Please reach out to me if you want to talk. Have a good day. Thank you for listening. If today's conversation has blessed you, share our podcast with a friend and if you have a money question, email me at Courtney and margleycoachinggroupcom. I'm Courtney Margley and this has been the Heart of Money.