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Martyr: What Is This Card? | All I Want For SNAPmas | Annihilus In Review | The Snap Chat Ep. 56
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Is Martyr even worth playing? How good is Annihilus? What are the top 10 archetype defining cards? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.
Is Martyr even worth playing? How good is Annihilus? What are the top 10 archetype defining cards? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.
What's going on guys and welcome back. Martyr comes out on Tuesday and what the F is this card? Today we're going to break down Martyr. Our thoughts on possibly one of the worst cards to come to Marvel Snap, but does she have a secret use? Possibly. We're going to break it down today. We're also gonna be talking about the top November performers in terms of win rate, play rate, and me and Alex's personal choices on cards at every cost that made a huge difference this season's ones that you guys should be playing as well. And then lastly, guys, we will be wrapping up with all I want for Snapmas is these features coming to Marvel Snap. This is our wish list to come in the next month and beyond to make Marvel Snap a better game. And there are some things like series drops that we absolutely have to break down. We'll be talking about that all today and more on this episode of the Snapchat. And as always, I am joined by Mr. Alex Coccia, and Alex he sprung this up on me. I love it. I noticed you've got some new glasses. I couldn't even go right into Marvel. So you look like you're paintballing. What, what do we got here?
Alexander Coccia:Yeah. Okay. So this has been something I've been trying to figure out for some time. Essentially, these are prescription, screen gaming glasses. I know it's like, they look like the gunner cringe yellow things, but apparently my doctor was like, you know what, these will actually help your eyes. You're spending a tremendous amount of time in front of lights in front of the computer streaming for like 24 hours, nonstop. And we do the Twitch drops and stuff. And they're like, this is going to be a big deal for you. So why don't you. So here we are, I'm using them. I know it's kind of like, it's a bit much. I know it's a bit much.
Cozy Snap:No, I like them. Dude, you could coach my paintball team, 100%. Like, there's no, no question. I would trust all of your paintball advice. But anyway, man, so we just finished Thanksgiving over here in the U. S. We had a crazy snap week with Annihilus. Dude, I don't think I have seen since High Evo, maybe like Loki and stuff, right? But like... It was nothing but a Nihilus Dex for the entire week. I mean, absolute, brutal, junk week what we thought it would be as well. How was your week in Marvel Snap, bud?
Alexander Coccia:My week's been fun. I've been playing with a ton of different stuff. As you said, I've been playing with a lot of Annihilus and we'll be talking about that shortly. But overall, like, I think that like, there's a lot of, it feels like the game's pretty balanced. I feel like there are a couple major cards that feel a little overtuned, but as a whole, it does feel like any deck can win and like when the game feels like that, I feel like brewing becomes more possible, cooking feels more possible, because like, you can be more competitive with a variety of different archetypes and a variety of different decks.
Cozy Snap:I mean, we always talk about, right, like, the villain of the month or whatever, and now there's like, multiple villains right now. I feel like the great divide is like, Pro X, Alioth, and Loki. And there's the two sides of each coin, right? Like, people hate them, people see them as like a counter card. And there's this divide, right? An absolute divide. So, it's gonna be curious. I know if you guys are just now listening. Some news and notes before we get started. We are getting no OTAs. Till the new year. But we do have the patch coming up. On the 5th of December. This upcoming really what just not, not, not long away. Here momentarily. But that's gonna be the last time we have any kind of... Card balance as the second dinner employees go and take their breaks. Did that surprise you? Or like, are we good with that?
Alexander Coccia:Yeah. I mean, they, they're people too. They need to take breaks. I think that is something that we need to learn. Maybe you and I should take a break. Honestly, not with the Snapchat, maybe with everything else. Life is busy as a, as. Fathers and you know, just life gets crazy for us, of course. One thing I will say though, is like, I'm really hoping this patch hits. Like, it's not just about balance. Like, I don't care so much about the balance of the patch. I hope they include like the systems they've been talking about with regards to like that prestige thing. I hope they, maybe we're going to talk about, I don't want to ruin the, my snap miss requests, but I hope a couple of them are in there.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, no, absolutely. I feel like the January patch is going to hit for sure. They always nail it coming out of the holiday break, you know. Glen's just sitting there, sipping on cocoa, just like, writing notes. He has a month to do so. So it's gonna be an interesting meta. This time last year, we had to deal with the leader. Leech meta for like a month straight. And then Silver Surfer. So like, will we see it again with Alioth? We'll have to see when it hits. But anyway, you guys know what we're talking about here on this side. A lot of craziness with Martyr. Alex, what are we talking about on your side of the channel?
Alexander Coccia:We'll be discussing Annihilus in review. It's been a wild week and Annihilus has been a huge part of that Cozy and I can't wait to have that discussion with you. We're also going to be talking about the top 10 archetype defining cards. Now this is a brand new top 10 we've never done before, but essentially we're going to be ranking the cards that we feel not only define their archetype the best, but also provide those archetypes with potentially The biggest bang for the buck and then we're going to be discussing the snapchat mailbag. That's right We're making the snapchat mailbag a weekly thing going forward in The Snap Chat.
Cozy Snap:Dude, let's go ahead and get started We got a lot to break down on this side And you know alex, I gotta say I think out of every time Every we've reviewed almost every new card going all the way back to january coming out on the snapchat here We've talked about them all And this is the least I sat down, I was like, alright, let's write the notes down for Martyr. And I was like, oh my god, I really have to stretch to even talk about a lot of ways that she works in Marvel Snap. I mean, it One cast can be like that, like Nebula, you know what I mean? There's not all these decks you can break down all the time. Martyr is I mean, I think the title says it all. What the F is this card? This is probably the worst card, quote unquote. From what the community said, no spoilers, maybe we say that too, we're gonna say that. That we have seen released in Snap, and we're gonna talk about where she does fit in our overall impressions. And let's go to kickoff like we always do, and talk about the spotlight week first. Now, just to add, like, dude, this is classic, like, you would think Second Dinner would pack this week full of bangers on the spotlight, right? Because they know the car's not that great. So you would think, monetarily, you know what I mean? Like, I thought they were gonna be putting in all the hot, you know, maybe an Elsa, whatever. Nope, we got Jean Grey in Spider Man 2099. Jean Grey, this is her 10th go around, Spider Man 2099. This is his, like, 5th, and he's not a good card. So, Alex, I don't know, I don't have a lot of great things to say about the Spotlight Week outside of, Hey, save your stuff up, save those keys up, you know?
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, no, this is definitely a skip. It's truly unfortunate that it's as bad as it is. You're right, it's like, usually there's like, a weaker card, and then like a banger set of spotlights, but this week they're like, you know what guys, let's just, let's punt. We're punting here, man. This is more than a punt. In NFL terms, this is like taking three knees and then punting. Like, this is so far gone from being a decent Spotlight Week. It's so bad. Yeah.
Cozy Snap:They're just like, we're making too much right now. We need a week to kill the revenue and just report the losses. But yeah, if you guys want to know those that are listening... Martyr is a one cost. She was a two cost in which she would've been a lot better, but she's a one cost four power card. Wait for it. Her, her ability. It's a slapper. At the end of the game, martyr's gonna move to a location that loses you the game if possible. Alex, my god almighty. So let's talk about martyr and let's talk about first of all, first impressions, right? Alex, I'll give you the floor.
Alexander Coccia:My first impressions, I mean, on my notes, I wrote three words, dog sh card. But I mean, honestly, it can't be that bad. It can't be that bad. There has to be something to it. So while I'm joking a little bit, I'm also not, because I don't think we're that high on it. But what I will say though, is that like, think about what 1 4 is. And like, I compare that to like, okay, it's Hawkeye, like you can bounce Hawkeye, like Hawkeye is not seeing a lot of play, but it has way more ceiling and it won't lose you the game. And then you have like Titania, is Titania just always better? Like you never run zero to zero Martyr. Like, why would you ever zero a Martyr when you can just zero Titania or zero an Ebony Maw? Like, so like that doesn't make sense, Cozy. So I'm like trying to like figure out like, where do I play this? Is it just Professor X Flodder?
Cozy Snap:Yeah, well, I mean, I ran out of toilet paper at the house, so I used mortar instead. Like, I mean, what is the star rating that you're giving mortar?
Alexander Coccia:Oh man, this is, this is like a 1 or 2, right? And this, it has to be a 1 or 2.
Cozy Snap:A 2? Even, I think a 2 is just... There are cards that come out that aren't that great, right? And, and somebody out there on Twitter or something wants to be the... You know, the hot nut, and just be like, Hey, yeah, man, I use this card all the time. It's great. I don't know how many apologists there'll be for the Martyr card. Now, we'll break down why. This is a one star for me. If we can give out half a star, it's probably, probably even that. She's Series 4, so there you go. But you did bring up some great points that we're going to go into, so you'd give her a 2?
Alexander Coccia:No, I'd give her a 1. I was, I was saying 1 or 2 just because I was like, just trying not to be so negative. I literally led with dog sh card as my intro, so like, obviously, I really do mean 1. But like, there has to be something here, right? Because they nerfed it from a 2 6, but like, is it even a nerf? Because like, the 6 power swing could lose you, but it's still the power on your side. I just don't see why I'd ever run this card.
Cozy Snap:I want to, I want to just bring up your point about Titania, because I think this is a great starting point. Like, this is, you know, really, I try to look, I always try to look at, like, what is there in Snap at the moment, and then what can we compare cards coming out to, right? With Mortar, we've got Titania, which Titania is a 1 5. Titania can switch sides and lose you the game, and it would be played in almost every scenario I bring up today. Today with Martyr, Titania is almost strictly just a better car, for the most part. There are only two places I like Martyr better, and so I thought this was a really good point. It's like, why not make her a 1. 5? You know, just to start things out and get things going, Alex. And so that's where I'm confused, but I'll give you the floor. Go ahead and tell me what is like some at least one area as we break it down that you like Martyr in.
Alexander Coccia:Well, as we mentioned, Professor X is going to be key here because Professor X is usually being ramped out on turn four very often, and at a minimum turn five, so then what you have there is you have Martyr, it's locked in, it can't leave, so therefore it can't really you know, kick you in the coco schnutz if it decides it's going to fly into Fist Tower or something like that, right? So that's a good thing from that perspective, but I think the true best place for it is it's going to be Zoo. It has to be, right? Like, cause in, from that perspective, you can fill the locations out. It can't really move to lose you the game, it's just a 1 4 power stat line, it gets buffed by Kazar. It gets buffed by Blue Marvel, so it's a 1 6 that's stuck in place? That can't be that bad, can it?
Cozy Snap:Yeah, so, okay, I like that you brought up Zoo, because that's definitely, like, 0? Sure. Like, you could throw her in there with Ebony Maw, and Titania, and then you have that. But it really, you need Kyara to come out, that card that protects the 1 cost cards for that, so like... And honestly, like, as we transition to Zoo, same thing, right? Like, I do agree. I play a lot of double up decks. And currently in my double up decks, and those are, if you guys don't know, like She Hulk, Infinaut. And then you kind of just play, like, Psylocke armor. In that deck I have Titania. Martyr could fit there instead of Titania in that deck. Because you have more control of that Titania going to the other side, right? So I enjoy the idea of just filling out the board, like you're saying there, with Double Up, it's kind of the same thing as you would get there with Titania. But with Zoo, yeah, I mean, I was thinking about Shawna, right? And I was like, does this make Shawna way worse? But at the same time, Shauna fills out the board. So, you know, dude, are you even playing Zoo like this? Is anybody right now playing Zoo like this? That's the ultimate question.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, it's hard to say because, like, you're right. Was this a net nerf to Shauna? I actually don't think it is because, like, Shauna Dazzler, it's, I'm telling you right now, it fills the locations. Yeah. Shauna, Fills two on her spot because she lands and then she actually fills a one cost into her location too. So that's two spots taken, one across the board. You're obviously going to be playing Shauna on a deck that's running Kazaar, Blue Marvel and other fill style cards. So like, I know from one perspective, it feels like it got nerfed, but it's still one four power. And the other side to it is that like, yes, it moves to lose you the game, but like... How bad can that really be? Like, Fist Tower's probably sucky. The other side is that you're gonna have like Bar With No Name, which is always gonna be a problem for zoo decks anyway, cause like, you're flooding with squirrel girls and stuff like that, it always sucks. Shana's never gonna wanna play into a Bar With No Name game anyways. So like, the power steal on your side, so like, at some point, I'm like, how bad is it? Like, what, what is she doing to really throw your game? But it's not even
Cozy Snap:how bad is it, how good is it? It's not good enough to put into any deck. Oh, it's not good, no. But it's not good enough to go into any deck, is what I'm trying to think of. Like, even though you could say there's these uses, like, no one's playing Shauna to begin with, right? I want to slow down and say a couple things. First of all, you brought up a great point, if people don't know. Martyr's going to move to locations and Barb with no names there, she's going, she's landing hot and landing on that until you lose you the game. But you brought up a good point, like how many times does she actually move to lose you the location? I don't think as often as we think, but also it's going to be detrimental in those 8 cube games when it actually happens. So much so, I see so many people bringing up, Hey, Viper, Viper that over. It's like, dude, the energy commitment to Viper her to the other side to a chance that your opponent will not fill their board or have that car lose them in the game is a terrible decision. We don't like that, in my opinion. I think that's definitely super just full copium, right? As far as Martyr goes. If I were to play, oh dude, if I were to play her, right, the only deck where I was like, okay, she would make it... Better, right? Because you have to hope she doesn't lose you the game. You have to hope Killmonger doesn't exist, all these things. Is my old surprise Ultron list. And I used to run this combo of Zero and Patriot together. Because Zero's effect would trigger Patriot's effect as well. And so you would kind of faux Shuri deck when Shuri was hot. And then you could end with Ultron. Ultron fills up the board, the martyr can't move. I thought about it, I was like, that makes, that's a hot deck. That does make, that's the only place I'll be trying her in, for sure.
Alexander Coccia:I like that, and honestly, the Surprise Ultron deck is consistently one of my favourite decks that you put out. I like the small tweaks you make to it every several months. It's a video, every time I see it, I'm like, I gotta see it. Cause like, it's actually one of my favourite decks. And you know I'm an Ultron believer, Cozy. I'm looking forward to that banger when when you know, she comes out. But what I will say is that, like, you're right. Filling the board with Ultron and kind of restricting her ability to, like, completely ruin your game is probably a good idea. And, I mean, I gotta tell ya, I do think that Shauna's probably fine. Shauna's probably fine, I don't think Shauna's impacted. Another one I wanna throw out here is Tribunal. Now, Tribunal can use that four power and realistically, she can't move anywhere to do anything, cause all the locations pretty much you know, benefit Tribunal to some degree, of course. But. It also lacks one drops. You never generally play one drops in Tribunal, because like, what are you, what are you doing? You're usually hoping for that invisible woman, or whatever different play line you're looking for, but in theory, Martyr should be okay there?
Cozy Snap:Yeah, Tribunal, I think when we first did the season preview, we were like, that would probably be her best spot. And it's not there all the time. Even Sandman, maybe? You know what I mean? But like, Sandman could still hurt you theoretically. I guess you could play around her lane in a sense. I get like a big brain it or whatever. But again, I'm like thinking of reasons like, in this scenario, on a snowy day in December, maybe, and it has to be exactly 2 p. m. You could play Martyr. It's like, no, I just don't think I'll ever elect to play her nor spend the token. I mean, I'm getting her. I'm gonna test her. We both are. I mean, we obviously know that. I can see the video titles, you know, probably now. She, her bar, her ceiling, out of 1 through 10. Honestly, 5 stars because we've been doing that. Her ceiling is a 1. 5. You know, I don't see her being like, wow, this use of Martyr really... She has the value. I totally get that. She's a 1. 4. But there are better cards out there. With said value, with the cards that she already is going to combo with. You know what I mean? Like, another example, Alex, I see so many people bring up Destroy. They're like, I'm going to Venom this. Like, no, you're not. Venom, Destroy lists are so tight. Why would you, why would you try to shove this card in there, you know?
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, who are you cutting? Who are you cutting for martyrs? Death. No one, right? Like, Deathlock is barely making Destroy Decks right now, right? For Hulkbuster, like, you're not putting martyr in for a Deathlock or a martyr in for a Hulkbuster. Oh, no, I'm gonna cut Carnage. I'm putting martyr in for that Venom gameplay. It's like, no, you're not, right?
Cozy Snap:And dude, I swear, I swear, if January OTA rolls around and they're like, We're making martyr insane, dude, I'm gonna lose it, right? Like, they can't... They cannot instant buff this card. They got other things to worry about before Martyr gets treatment. Because, I mean, honestly listen, have we ever been this down on a card? I really don't think we have. I think we, I can't remember the last time we just, like, completely, like, we opened up the line with this is a dog sh card. Like, what, what was the last card that we have even spoken? Try to think back. What was the last card that we even hated this much?
Alexander Coccia:I don't think there's ever been a card we've hated this much. I think we were, like, I remember being kind of low on Silver Samurai, but I still think we had some Hopium, right? But, like, even then, like, that card's way better than this. Like, it's so much clearly better than this. This card's horrible. And I actually got one more point that I think is a really important one. And I think that this is something I, like, I half... Don't want to be too negative on. This is the only Series 4 card they're releasing. It makes me a little upset because there's this old sentiment that you don't pay for power. Why is this a Series 4 card? Were they like, Hey, yo, this card sucks. Well, make it a Series 4 card. I actually kind of take offense to that, right? Because it's like, make it Series 5. If you're going to make every, like, 95 percent of the cards Series 5, just make The trash one series 5 2 so I don't have to look at this and be like okay You made this series 4 cuz no one wants it Yeah, like I don't want the series 4 and 5 to be like oh this card sh and this cards good And that's why you're paying 3, 000 extra tokens for it like come on now. It actually bothers me. This is a series 4
Cozy Snap:I mean honestly we're gonna talk about series drops coming up on the Snapmas topic But it's true like at least pair it with one of the other cars that released this month. You know what I mean? Like, and have that be a Series 4. And have both of them, and then you're like, Ah, okay, you know, they pick Martyr cause she's bad, and then you have the other one. Totally agree. I got a lot to say on series drops without question. I mean, we could sit here and really try to calculate it, guys, but we're gonna keep it short and simple and pretty much say, bearing a damn miracle, I just don't know where Martyr would be and that the spotlight is also bad. This is a save your tokens. Now, I do want to say this. I think this is actually a great talking point here. I don't hate that it's bad. And let me tell you why. I don't want bad cards, as bad as Martyr, right? Maybe a little bit of a middle ground here. But weeks like this is great for the larger population of the Snap community, because they can save... They're freaking tokens, right? They can save their tokens. They know with confidence, like, I'm not getting this car outside of a few people who had, like, way too much, like, I don't know, Baileys around Christmas. To me, that's the only, like, silver lining, you know?
Alexander Coccia:I can't get off the fact that you think that, so in America, when you guys are having Christmas, Baileys is the drink of choice? That's what you guys are getting sauced over?
Cozy Snap:I get a little Baileys and coffee as I look at Christmas lights.
Alexander Coccia:When I think about like, you know, American drinking, it's gotta be Jack Daniels. You guys are like, get that Jacko for Christmas. That's, that's right. That's America, right? Not Bailey's.
Cozy Snap:Well, dude, you got your like America F 250 Jack Daniels glasses on right now. So I totally like, you look like a man that'd be drinking Jack Daniels right now. No question about it. I wish the audio listeners, like if you have been an audio listener of the Snapchat, and you've been like, I wonder what it looks like when they film this. Now's the time. Now's the time to come. Alex has been wearing these for all, a year plus of the, of the Snapchat filming. But anyway guys, so that is Martyr. We'll be sure to be talking about her in a review on Alex's side next week. So hey, maybe we, maybe we're crazy. We're gonna be going to our next subject. I'm excited to talk about this one. It is November Top Performers, Alex. Now what this is, we're gonna talk about the most played cards, I'm sorry. Essentially, the most seen cards in the last 30 days, all game modes. And just kind of talk about our feelings, thoughts, and or what the list is. Guys, try to guess ahead before we talk about it. We're also going to talk about win percentage when they're played. I love that statistic specifically. When they're in the deck, it's like cool, but I really want to see when you actually play it. Obviously, some of these are going to be easy to guess. Others, not so much. And then, lastly, we're going to be talking about our top performers, Alex, of this season. It's kind of our favorite card. Same thing. We've done this before. But these are more of our top performers, our MVPs. If you will. Now, I'm going to start us off with the list. And Alex, here we go. By most seen, and these are cards that have been most seen within Marvel Snap. We've got our top ten. Now, I did on some of these other lists, I adjusted it a little bit. I think there was some Punisher love. I took that out. I was like, it was worth putting it in there. At number 10, Alex, I'll read a good amount of time. We have Miss Marvel coming in at 10, which is somewhat typical of a Season Pass card, but she's a good one at that. I'm sure that does not surprise you all too much.
Alexander Coccia:No, it doesn't. Not at all. Actually, I think she'd been higher, but makes sense. I mean, Season Pass card, she's a good one, she's a fair one. I think that's a good placement for her for sure.
Cozy Snap:Yep outside of Miss Marvel, next up, and this one shocked me, man. I couldn't believe this. Cosmo. Right now. Is that number 9 scene? I I'm baffled that Cosmo is this high. Like, and I'll, I'll spoil it. Like, Luke Cage isn't here, but Cosmo is. Is this, is that insane to you? It's gotta just be because of the Loki decks yeah?
Alexander Coccia:It makes no sense to me, honestly. I feel like I've seen maybe one Cosmo in like... Four months, and when I saw it, I was like, bro, I was playing Cosmo, are you kidding me? I think I saw it in some, like, Psycho Deck, too. I'm like, who's playing Cosmo in Destroy? Like, it was something like that, right? It was like, a really weird Cosmo. It was not like an, it was not like an ongoing deck or anything. I was like, what? Who's playing Cosmo in this?
Cozy Snap:I don't know. You're like, damn it. Yeah, the, I was not expecting Cosmo that high. ProX comes in at number 8 and we're obviously not shocked there. To me, my initial thoughts here is I was thinking Loki decks, which is why the Cosmos there probably, and then Lockdown, right? Or Ms. Marvel decks of nature, maybe some Destroy. So ProX, one of those divisive cards, a little bit, right? What are your thoughts on ProX on the moment?
Alexander Coccia:Pro X, I think, is really frustrating because of the amount of ramp options we have in Marvel Snap right now. But he's also keeping some archetypes alive, like Thanos. We also have a lot of tools to deal with Professor X. Like, this is the least restrictive he's ever been. We have Jeff, we have Ms. Marvel. Beets, like, gets into the Professor X location, right? We have tools. We have tools for Professor X. And so, like, that does mitigate it a little bit.
Cozy Snap:I think the Aliothness, which we'll get to here in a moment, is putting more hate on him because it's like, they know what's coming, right? Cause he's on 5. What could be on 6? My favorite thing about Pro X is when he locks down a card like Martyr, right? And keeps it in check, right? Like, something like that is a cool use of him. But Pro X, I, I'm sure they're gonna figure out Lockdown a little bit in the upcoming patches and OTAs, but they gotta be careful. I do like Lockdown as a playstyle for sure. And I kind of always have been on that train. Next up after that, we've got Armor, which makes a ton of sense. Armor there just to get rid of all the Destroy stuff. Iron Lad comes up what it would be 7, 6. Iron Lad comes up at number 6. Guy's just kind of in, like, every deck. So not, not too shocked there. I know you're not the biggest Iron Lad fan. Alexi has betrayed you more than once. And then at number 5, we've got Alioth. Which, I think this is probably why so many people... Have hate for the card. The fifth most seen card in Snap right now being Alioth that deletes cards. That's a tough pill to swallow, buddy. Do you think, do you think he gets changed this upcoming OTA patch?
Alexander Coccia:I don't know. Because I feel like he has his role in Marvel Snap, but also he can feel really unfair. And I don't like the idea that sometimes Alioth makes games where like, well, I win 100 percent of the time. Like there's no lose condition here and Alioth does that. I don't feel like that's healthy at some point. You should never have a player who's 100 percent completely confident that they're going to win a game and Alioth does do that, right? If you have initiative and you're holding Alioth and like you have two lanes locked, there's nothing they can do. It's just, I don't know if that's good or not, but I don't know what you
Cozy Snap:do with them at this point. All right, after that we have Nico Minoru, which I'd love to see, man. Like, crazy. I mean, dude, we said one star, five star. Here she is, man. She's just being played everywhere. So versatile. It was crazy because like, is she too flexible? No, she's perfectly flexible. Like, apparently that's how we're seeing her be played. And then I'll round it out. We have Shang Chi. Jeff, and America Chavez, which those three have been reigning towards the top, pretty much every month outside of the strict Loki opening week and or month of like when it was just play that, play nothing else. Does that shock? I mean, America Chavez, I get it, hey, I know you, why you love her, right? She does the only thing that she does there. And then you've got Shang Chi and Jeff. I, a little bit surprised. Now, Shung, this is the last 30 days, and keep in mind, okay, that it doesn't he got adjusted, what, maybe like 3 weeks ago, 2 weeks, so there's still gonna be fall off for Shung Chi, but I'm still seeing him a good amount.
Alexander Coccia:I feel like I don't see him.
Cozy Snap:Okay.
Alexander Coccia:I don't get Shung Chi'd. Like, I, I've been kind of resorting to some, like, low key you know, Devil Dinosaur decks just for some, like, some chill gameplay. My Devil Dinosaur is sitting there just not getting Shang Chi'd. Like, I do not see it as often as I would expect.
Cozy Snap:Okay.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, like, I think he should be in more decks. In fact, even on like, if you look at like, statistics wise he will actually adjust the win rate of decks by a couple percent. Like, if you can, you can find a deck where it's like, Oh, Shang Chi's not in this version. It's in this version. It'll be like a two percent win difference between the two. It's pretty shocking how good he actually is still, but People just don't add them in. I think it's the greed of like, Hey, I got this deck that I want it to do a very specific thing. This combo piece and people just don't find room for them.
Cozy Snap:Yep. Okay, man. Hey, we'll listen. We're going to talk about next here in the next category. We're going to bring up. I thought those were interesting. We've got the win percentage when played. Now outside of Hela. Which, like, this is obvious, right? Like, think about it, people are not playing these cards unless they win the game most of the time, and so cards like Hela are going to be, you know, clearly these big finishers to win. The ones that I knew at the top of my head was Hela and Onslaught, right? Like, people aren't playing Onslaught as well unless they're gonna probably win that. Is there any that you can guess? Give me like two to three that you think may be on this list. It would have to be Ultron.
Alexander Coccia:Ultron has to be there.
Cozy Snap:Okay, alright. You got any others?
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, turn six? Yep. Hmm, I would probably go with Hulk.
Cozy Snap:I was gonna say, I was just about to whisper Hi Evo to see like if you, yeah, as you're, as you're...
Alexander Coccia:I meant Hi Evo Hulk.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, no, just regular Hulk, you're not playing the,
Alexander Coccia:Just scott Vanilla Hulk.
Cozy Snap:Just Staffan, oh man, at 12 hours. It's hot, it's hot. So going from the top, Hela's number one, two is Infinite. Again, makes sense. People are gonna stick around for the Infinite turn unless they win. Alioth, oh boy, number three. Win percentage, win played. That's, that's high, buddy. Noel, Hulk, Odin. Which makes sense as well, like the I thought Odin didn't make as much sense though, because Odin sometimes can be a gamba, right? Like, you were like, alright, Ironheart, White Tigers, hope you hit the right stuff, right? Modok, Spectrum, and Taskmaster. Now Ultron's probably not on the list right now just because of just play rate. If I were to guess, I guess, if that would be my personal, but yeah, Taskmaster, I don't think people are scanning two power cards and thinking they're gonna win the game. But Spectrum being on here, I'll be damned.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, I'm glad to see it, honestly. Like, I love Spectrum. I always have. Funny story. I don't know if you know anybody like this, or like, even the viewers know people like this, but like, there are some people that just, they're like, one deck people. Like, they have like, the all inked or all gold, like, they only play Discard or whatever, right? I have a buddy that only plays Galactus. It's all he does. He doesn't care what the meta is, he's only playing Galactus, that's it. My brother will only ever play Spectrum. He's never gotten to Infinite, he doesn't like Grind, he doesn't do any of that. But he only plays Spectrum Ongoing. He has, like, Inked and Gold Gooses. Like, my brother plays super casually, but literally only plays Spectrum Ongoing. And has been for, like, since the dawn of the game. So he was super hyped up with the buffed Spectrum. And he's one of the reasons why I think you're seeing more Spectrum out there.
Cozy Snap:Dude, I wanna ask that to the viewers, like, do you guys only play one deck in particular? My, my good, good buddy, who I didn't even know played Snap until the other day, he's like, oh yeah, man, I've been playing for a year. I'm like, dude, do you know what I do? Anyway, he is destroyed. That's all he does. That's all he does is destroy. He won't play anything else. He like, you know, sexified it up, getting Nico in there. He's like, Oh, I got something like crazy now. But yeah, you know, I guess I get it. You master it, right? But man, that's a, that's a big commitment. I guess as a casual player, it makes more sense. Lastly, we have when drawn I'm just gonna list them out. When you draw these cards, these are the top ten. Ms. Marvel, number one. Ms. Marvel, number one. Darkhawk, Sauron, makes sense. Cyclops, for High Evil Misty Night. Hulk, Apoc, which again, I was like, alright, if you pull Apoc, you're gonna typically win those discard games. Collector, She Hulk, Red Skull, Medusa. Now, no Loki on these lists, which I thought was you know, kinda interesting. But Alex, let's...
Alexander Coccia:No Zabu on that one either, which kinda surprises me.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, right? When drawn? I was thinking the same thing. Let's think of, though, our top six, I guess, because it'd be one for every cost. So these will be your top performers at the moment this season that you feel like have really made the difference, if you will, in Marvel Snap. Let's start with the one cost, Alex. Give me your top performer, your MVP, your favorite card. What do you got?
Alexander Coccia:My MVP by far this season, and I'm not even joking, is Echo. I don't care what anyone says, this card is disgusting. Like I have been dismantling ongoing players, dismantling Ms. Marvel players. Like when I get into Conquest and I play Echo on turn one, the angry face shows up on the card and then they start playing all these like Ms. Marvel ongoing cards very awkwardly around it. And then like, I just laugh. The card is so unbelievably good right now, and it's like, it's just the right meta. It's the right meta for Echo, and the other thing about it is it also gives me predictive capabilities against Professor X players. Like, if I'm against a Thanos player, I can play Echo, and I'm like, Hey, well, if I have to 50 50 Pro X, I know they're not going that location, right? It's been really beneficial from that standpoint as well. So, really like Echo, I've joked about it in the past, her actual best ability is the fact that she's invisible. Because people just play, people are going to play Pro X on top, if you don't believe me, play Echo and watch it happen.
Cozy Snap:No, dude, it's the truth. It feels good now that it's like, well, you have to guess where they're going. It's like, dude, you just pop her in the middle, set it, forget it, right? Like, it's the easiest set it, forget it card. I agree. For me I was going to give, it was tough because there's a lot that I enjoyed this season. Like X23, the ramp out was so dependable. For me, I am going to go with Snowguard, man. It's crazy that she did take a pretty big, you know, hit with the recent adjustments. What I like about her, it's not even like the Loki play, because personally, I'm not doing a lot of Loki. I love the Devil Dinosaur usage, and I also love the Silver Surfer usage, both of those. Having this, like, catch all counter for those turn 7 decks that have been heating up again for one drop. That's why I love Nico. Like, Nico is the easy pick here. Okay, I was gonna pick Nico. But, like, I love the idea with just one energy commitment. You're putting up two cards, building up that devil dinosaur. You're doing so much here to build up collector and also just getting rid of locations, triggering locations again. So powerful, buddy.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah. Snow guards been a mainstay in my surfer deck for a while now. And it's been crazy because like, you're right. There's a lot of limbo based gameplay going on right now. A lot of magic's out there. And they on, I don't understand people put like, they see me play snow guard boy, because the Hawks not sitting on the board. Like you forget that I'm like, why he's skipping turn six. You know, I have like a literal disabler for that play that still synergizes with the silver surfer. It's crazy. Right. So good. It's so good. And actually I take a lot of pride. Sometimes I'm playing that bear on top of something like a like like a savage land and throwing Raptors on their side when like they haven't filled with the bear gives me enough power to win the location. Listen, I think that the Hawk is better. The hawk is definitely better, but the bear has its uses too. But overall, as three drops, I think they're really nice slot ins into Silver Surfer.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, absolutely. I wish the ones that say, like, at the end of the turn and stuff, like, I wish somehow that didn't exist, but at the same time it has to, because, like, Murder World, like, it would be OP as they just kill everything on that, you know? They have to have some restriction. But yes. What about 2 cost, buddy?
Alexander Coccia:2 cost for me, because of the prevalence of Destroy, my best cube winning card has been... Why are you so angry?
Cozy Snap:Nah, did you say the armor?
Alexander Coccia:No!
Cozy Snap:Oh, I have armor! Armor's a good one too! You said because the presence of Destroy. I'm like, that's mine. It's armor. But okay, what's yours?
Alexander Coccia:Oh, it's the King! It's the King of Shadows! Come on! So, Shadow King for me has been an absolute banger. Cause like, I take out Venoms right down to 3 power every single time. And I play it on turn 5, pretty confidently. And I like it. I think Shadow King is a low key winner of cubes. I know it's awkward, like, you don't want to play him on 2. So sometimes he's like the additional 3. He's like the extra tech you carry. But honestly, I think Shadow King gets no respect to Marvel Snap. Like I want you guys out there right now, if you have not played Shadow King, throw him into a couple decks and just try him and you'll realize how much, how much better he is than you realize.
Cozy Snap:Bro, I put him on my top 10 last week of the best cards in Snap right now. Like, he is truly, he goes, mine is armor, he goes through armor. Shuri, Red Skull, doesn't matter, right? Like, he... For two! For two, it's nothing! I mean, you can play him out on turn five, six. You have a lot of ways to play him. You can scope him out on four if you know, like, what's going on. He counters pretty much all the top decks at the moment, and I love it. Armor for me is, like, right now with the amount of Destroy, because it's everywhere, it's the ultimate, like, nope, you lose card. Like, and I just, I love playing that down. People complain about Alioth, I get it, but hey, yo, you play more armor, you're not gonna feel as bad about that. Yeah, it feels, like, people are, like, hoping for Wakanda to pop up as a location, just so they have a place to play their cards on turn six. It's like, create your own, create your own cards in your own place, so armor for me, definitely. With, if they just fix them, please, and I think they will in the upcoming patch, but Daredevil is an honorable mention. Would you say for you two a little bit, like, Daredevil's great, if he wasn't busted, not, by busted, not working.
Alexander Coccia:I've been actually playing Daredevil despite the nerf, like the, I was going to say the nerf. It actually kind of feels like a nerf, you can't even see the card. But it's funny, because like, I'm like, you can kind of see what the card is, and you're like, wait, what is that? Damn it, it's a variant, I can't quite tell.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alexander Coccia:I think, I think that's like this, and then you play, it's like, oh, it's something else, I screwed up so bad. It's like, it's been ridiculous. But yeah, I've actually been playing Daredevil, and if they can fix it, it'd be even better. Because I think the card, with the amount of control that's going on right now, I think it's actually pretty valuable.
Cozy Snap:What about 3 cost, buddy?
Alexander Coccia:Okay, I feel bad. This one's too obvious. There's one card that really really stands out amongst the rest to me. It's Werewolf by Night. The card's too good. I don't wanna say like I think this is gonna get nerfed, nerfed.
Cozy Snap:I think it can go down by base power and I think that's just fine. You know what I mean? Like, even if it went to 3 2, test it out there. It is, it is... Hilariously strong like because it reminds me of kitty pride right dude it can dodge priority like that's just another piece of its kit Or dodge yeah
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, I think it drops to three one. I think you take a free bounce away I think is what ends up happening. I still think it's good. Like I still think it's good You think about these decks you kind of realize you're like, oh man. I have all these honor reveals Like, they just, they just, like, there's on reveals all over the place. You've even seen Green Goblin played in Werewolf by Night Dex because he's an on reveal that doesn't take up space on your board. So, like, he doesn't actually clog yourself up. It's crazy, like, Werewolf by Night is one of the few cards in Marvel Snapdight right now that really feels a little high. Like, even Annihilus, the best, like, Annihilus as a whole... Has been, like, has a very middling kind of lower end win rate. The only one that's really performing is a Werewolf by Night Annihilus deck, because it's just Werewolf by Night elevating the archetype. Dude, I love It's carrying, it's like the, it's like the yoked beast carrying the ship.
Cozy Snap:I love when we get things right, like, we nail it. And I know when we broke him down, I ended the topic with, Dude, this simple fact of tech cards with Werewolf is going to be game winning. Right, because just Playing Shang Chi in a lane that they thought they had. You flip it, and then you play Shadow King in the other. You bounce him, you bounce him. You're gonna win the lane that he lands on, cause he's whatever power that is, right? Shadow King's there for a little insurance, or you don't even need the Shadow King. You can have a frickin Forge, I don't really care. And then the Shung Chi takes care of business. The tech card usage with him is outta control. Three, one, you'll be fine. You'll be completely fine. I agree. Honorable mention like to him I guess would be Neonic. I think it's a very fun card.
Alexander Coccia:Oh, hell yeah. I'm all in on that. I love Neonic. I've been playing a ton of Negasonic
Cozy Snap:and Rogue for that matter. I gotta say, dude, rogue is never felt more dangerous. You know what I mean? Just so like even getting rid of a Quinjet or Azabu slowing them down. Do you ever see Azabu come out? And you're like, do I take, do I wait? Do I take the Darkhawk? Do I take the Zabu now? You know, like, what do you do in that situation?
Alexander Coccia:I always try and take it right away, but when you said, have you seen a Zabu come out? I thought to myself, no, actually, I've not seen a Zabu come out in some time. But for me, it's always like the question of, oh, oh, they just played, they just played Iron Man. Snap, snap, snap. Try and bait them into snapping, right? Like, it's like, it's so good. The swing play on Rogue is huge. Like, Enchantress will shut someone down, but Rogue will make them feel like they never want to play Marvel Snap again.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, dude, right? Because they're so confident. Like, Rogue is my, I want to win some 8 cubers. Like Rogue does that effect. She has that big of an effect. Which I love. And guess what, if she doesn't take the effect, werewolf can bounce over there, so another plus bonus. Four for you is, I mean, I can kick his off, it's Ms. Marvel for me. I don't know how I pick another card. How about yourself?
Alexander Coccia:I try to steer away from the season pass card, although I do agree Ms. Marvel is a key component of the current meta. Love Ms. Marvel, I think she is fair. 4 15 power though does feel a little extreme, especially when I was thinking about this. I was like, hmm, Mr. Fantastic kind of feels a little less relevant now. Like, I've been playing Mr. Fantastic and then Ms. Marvel, I guess, because I'm playing Onslaught and being greedy as hell. But like, I kind of feel bad for Klaw I was like, Klaw really only getting one extra power to one location and actually one less power himself? Like, Klaw feels like it got kicked right in the pants by Ms. Marvel. Maybe that's a different conversation. But actually, no, I'd like to ask you, do you think Ms. Marvel straight up power creep on Klaw? Because it's been kind of weighing on my conscience.
Cozy Snap:Man, I love Ms. Marvel, because I do feel like she could be a very fair card, right? I think the presence of the entire Snap meta at the moment is what is tough, right? Because of the lockdown popularity and things like that. Klaw could use a power bump up, in my opinion. I think if you're gonna keep Marvel, then yes, it has definitely hurt that card. Kind of like, kind of like Jessica Jones before she got the buff. Like, she was fine. Like, a 4 8 was a good stat line. But she got power crept, you know, at the core there. So, I'm going to be curious if they, if they make her a 4 4, I wouldn't be surprised. Like, bring her power down there and then have 5 5 on the side. They keep the 5's, do whatever you want in the middle, is kind of my, is my thought with Ms. Marvel. But that's a good conversation there.
Alexander Coccia:Well, my 4, I could have picked Ms. Marvel. I mean, I kind of spoke as if I had, but I didn't pick Ms. Marvel. Because there is one card that I cannot stop myself from playing. It's 3x value. It's Darkhawk. Darkhawk is just so damn good right now. And I think it's just the whole package, the Disrupt package. I've been playing this really spicy, bounce based Darkhawk deck, which is pretty fun. Bouncing everything back. You don't even have to run Rockslide half the time, because you're bouncing back your Korg, you're bouncing back your Black Widow. And like, I know my opponent hates me. I know they hate me. But I hate myself too sometimes, because it's just too dirty. And I gotta tell you, Darkhawk is just, it feels so good right now. It's... If you bought Darkhawk on release, it's the best 6, 000 tokens you ever spent.
Cozy Snap:Oh, so good. I remember like, I was like, I wanna play something different. I Darkhawk. He seems interesting and like... Good God, I think it was like, at the time, Mean Binks went all in on him, right when he came out, and God, I, I never regret that. What about 5 cost?
Alexander Coccia:5 cost for me, we just talked about him being hated, my top performer's been ProX. Like, I, I hate to say it, he's been an absolute beast. And the thing I like about him, is that he really helps shut down Destroy. Because I would lock up those those Deadpools. I would lock up cards they want to be playing with and getting rid of a location would also be frustrating for them as well, for a variety of different reasons, because then I'd have follow ups with Shang Chi or whatever, or Alioth, for instance. So I do think that Professor X is an absolutely incredible card right now. But I will say it's kind of ironic, but he also feels really good with something like a Ms. Marvel, because Ms. Marvel, like you can lock down a location and she'll punch into there because Pro X is there, right? So they don't have much of an answer. Well, then you got yourself an answer.
Cozy Snap:What if they do what they've done with some cards in the past and try to like, tick down the play rate a little bit and think about it, when they made him, he was nothing close to what he is today, like, we have so many more options. What if they make him a 5 2? Cause that's a huge, like, power change is massive on Pro X.
Alexander Coccia:I don't know. I don't, I, like, I get that, but at the same time, it's like, I don't know if the power's the problem. I think it's his kit just synergizes so well with so many other cards. Daredevil, Timestone, Psylocke, all the reach of Ms. Marvel, Jeff. It's just, there's all these other things. It's like, it's not him. I don't think it's, I don't think it's easy to fix Pro X. Cause there's so many factors that interact with his ability. It's not just one singular thing. I don't think it's just a power issue.
Cozy Snap:If they made, yeah, and then like Jeff could out beat him, and I hate that, then it would be like, did someone draw the Jeff, right? But like, if they continue to make Miss Marvels that can like, sneak into those lanes prior to turn six, I'm okay with that a little bit more, right? Depending on the whole Elias situation. But yeah, no, I agree. My five dude is Legion. It's like, man, I got my kicked, my rocks kicked by a couple of Legions throughout the ladder. I am winning so many games that I had no right to win with Legion. I mean, absolute. Dude, you're playing Onslaught Citadel, and you just put it all, and like, you straight up rogue the whole, you Enchantress the whole field, right? Like, he does so much swing, or like just trying to get plays before people do whatever they want to do, right? If Nidavellir, with the plus five power, you've got like, Destroy players stacking up, stacking up. Or cloning vats where you're like, hey, Destroy's gonna win this if I don't get rid of this right now. I just think he's great for multiple reasons, and my favorite thing is A, storm, but dude being able to ramp out and do that whole like storm lockdown potential with Miss Marvel out early storming is completely slept on at the moment.
Alexander Coccia:It is, and I, listen, it's funny when you think about like what nerfs can do, One Power Off of Legion completely took this card out of people's psyche. Yeah. The card was basically deleted from the meta with one power nerf. And it was never about the power, it was never about the 5 8 stat line, and for some reason, it just shrunk in people's minds, it just completely dissuaded people from playing it, but the impact is still there. Locations are some of the most important things in Marvel Snap, and actually, you talk about some locations that really are beneficial, when you're holding Legion, you see something like a mojo world. Like, you can play your cards turns one through five in a way where you're like, I'm just going four deep here. I like, they're not expecting, they're, they're playing destroy. They're trying to task master you and all this stuff. You're like, okay, man, yeah, task master me. It's fine. You're nulls. I'm going to be big enough. Cause I'm changing the mojo world and you just lose.
Cozy Snap:Nexus. Same thing, right? Like Nexus, you play around it. It's, makes no sense. Like, I get the whole stature, black bolt thing happening with the power points, and then those dis Oh, it makes sense. Those are power reliant cards, right, for value. Doesn't make sense. I'll never understand it, but I'm gonna keep collecting cubes as people aren't playing them. Six cost.
Alexander Coccia:You know what, I almost feel bad saying it, but it's Alioth. It has to be Alioth. It's been my top performer. I almost, I have another pick, honestly, because I almost didn't want to even bring it up. But like, I was producing a bunch of videos this week, and they weren't even about Alioth. They were about other archetypes and stuff and other decks, but I'm like, the highlights were me just winning turn six with Alioth, with initiative. And I remember saying, I'm like, this is not supposed to be an Alioth highlight, but here we are, the fourth game in a row where I win because... Someone doesn't respect that I'm holding Alioth for eight cubes. Like, I don't understand. And it's just like one of those things where it's like, it has to go through your mind. It has to go through your mind. I don't have initiative. Do they have Alioth? Does this lose to Alioth? Has to be your decision making on turn six. And like, I'll be talking to my chat. I'm like, guys, there's no way they go through with this, right? And then like, they just do it and they lose eight cubes in a game where they had a 0 percent chance to win. So, I hate to say it, but Alioth has been an absolute cube stealer.
Cozy Snap:It's because it's like, why? He's always the answer. Like, for me, man, I made a cool Mr. Negative deck. So much fun. I was climbing like crazy. Guess what? I put Alioth in there. Not because he, well, I mean, 3 6 value is fantastic. But, when you see Mr. Negative, no one in their right mind is like, Alioth is about to come out. Right? It's the same Discord player the other day threw this out on me, and it's like, Yo, I lost. I was expecting Merica Chavez there. I just straight up lost the game. To me, Alioth is, I respect you for saying you play him in the sense of like, there's, there are people that are like, Alioth's got to go, picket signs! Alioth's got to go! And then they go home and they play Alioth. It's like, okay, you're right, I don't understand. Yeah, I don't fault you for putting him this high. For myself, I play a lot of Alioth. I could have easily put him up there. I've got She Hulk. I think She Hulk is gotta be in the best place she's been since she just came out. And I play her probably too much. But I, I rely on her a ton. I think she's fantastic. The turn 5 skip oftentimes is pretty leading, but you can combine her with any of the OP 5 cost cards that we have today. If you don't draw Alioth, it's like a great alternate win condition. I want to say, I want to say Magneto. I don't know about you, I want to say Magneto. He's great against Darkhawk and Venoms at the moment, but I'm like, fearful. Turn 6 wind plays are very tough to pull off with the Alioth meta that we're in, right?
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, I know it is, 100%. Magneto's interesting from a standpoint of like, you don't always have to play him in a location they're predicting because of the amount of disruption you'll do. It also destroys Ms. Marvel to some degree. But, what I will say, though, is that, like, it is a very good card that I think is being underplayed right now. I'm not seeing much Magneto, and it should be in more decks. It's just, it looks like the decks are getting greedier and tighter and greedier and tighter, and Magneto is, like, a flavor card that you can... You never feel bad cutting, because you know you have a 6 drop to check out. Well, I can always add Chavez, or I can always add Alioth. Right? And they're just these evergreen cards that always feel relevant. Magneto just barely doesn't get in there. And the other thing is, obviously, we have the buff to Dr. Doom. Which I think took Magneto out of people's minds. Because when Dr. Doom went down, Magneto went up. The stocks are completely inversed from one another.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, they are.
Alexander Coccia:So, the last one I want to mention is, I think it's Onslaught. Onslaught's been a really good one, too.
Cozy Snap:Oh, yeah.
Alexander Coccia:Just because, like, with the amount of ongoing you're seeing right now, especially with Ms. Marvel, it ain't no joke with how much power you can put out wide.
Cozy Snap:Yep, no question, buddy. Well, let's go ahead and bring it from... Those top performers, and have our last subject as we head into the month of December, the holiday season. All I want, Alex, for Snapmas, is blank. Now this could be for myself, I was looking at stuff that I want very soon and upcoming. I think that's kind of the approach and or just things you want in Marvel Snap works as well, Alex.
Alexander Coccia:All I want for Snapmas... Is border picking. That's that's my number one thing. Border and aesthetics picking. I know that they had this idea of doing like the prestige system. Some additional stuff based on like variant collections and things like that. I've been super excited about that. Now I'm not even the kind of person that buys out the variant shop. Actually, I've not bought a variant in like months. I just haven't. And Like I'm actually really looking forward to that system. I want to see the border picking specifically because I have so many cards. I can't upgrade because I'm like, I can't, I can't break this. I can't break this beautiful variant the way it looks. So I really hope that that system comes into play. And they did do a Q and A, where they did say, Hey, we're going to have more of an announcement on that shortly. So it sounds like it might be coming. They already have it in the store a little bit where you can kind of preview. The splits, which is kind of nice, but for me, that Prestige system, and specifically the border picking, is really what I want for a set.
Cozy Snap:I hope they bring that little border, like, what it looks like to, just like your collection, too. Like, I hate that I only get that in the store, you know what I mean? Like, sometimes I'm like, what would this look like? Oh, I can't see anymore. Like, it, for me, looking ahead, first of all, there was a teased Ms. Marvel card back that has yet to be released, and then they said coming next patch. I think that's the Prestige system, potentially. Which would be great, having some type of a new feature to mess around during the holidays, during the month long break. Especially if it's something to grind, if that's truly what this is gonna be. That's what I think of prestige, right? Call of Duty back in the day. That would be huge, and that also probably should or would be tied to cosmetics, if I were to take a guess there. So definitely that's high up on my list. But Alex, for me personally, I've got two big ones. First of all, like, Delivered Promises, right? So just, let's just get the monkey off the bat. It's time to go ahead and just, let's get, let's get the Ultimate Invariants. And let's get all the great craziness that comes with those. And the First Edition Badges, right? Let's just get those done. Awesome. Get the, we can stop talking about them. I would love to see it. We've been talking about them for a year now. And then, I mean, dude, can we both, we know it's both at the high, like, they said they're gonna address it. And my god, it better be good news. They've got, they have to talk about series drops. We have to return. Martyr cannot be the last confirmed series drop. I mean, dude, that's it, man. Take my present, Santa. I just want series drops at this point.
Alexander Coccia:I'm actually really nervous about a discussion about series drops because it's not improbable that they say series drops are never happening again. Like, the way we're going right now, it's going to a point where, like, Howard the Duck is a big bad. Like, that's just where we're at now. Big bad. Every card's pretty much a big bad. It doesn't matter. Like... I'm really nervous that series drops just don't matter anymore. There must be some internal metric that has tipped where they're like, Hmm, we don't need to do series drops anymore. We just don't need to. People are collecting enough cards or... I feel like there's this... I don't want to get completely off track, but Cozy, am I wrong in saying that it feels like the disparity between players that are willing to buy bundles, Get like, get like kind of like buy all these types of ways to progress through collection track to get those extra spotlight keys and stuff The gap feels like it's widening slightly between the free to play player because of the lack of series drops I have like 20 unspent spotlight keys, right? And I don't think free to play players are in that situation not even close and it's because there's no series drops.
Cozy Snap:Either give us Yeah, they either have to To do series drops, that's dependable and reliable, right? So, I want dependability there. I want to make sure, okay, we know a cycle of some sort that was so healthy for the game. And I really hope that does return. Or, the prestige mode, whatever this is, needs to introduce some way to make up that gap. Whatever that means, whatever that means in currency wise, card acquisition, whatever that is, right? Because we're close, but that, to me, I agree. There's got, just return it, right? Return it. What do you have to lose? And things are going fine. People are playing the game like crazy. Howard the Duck is not that sought after. Alright? People aren't getting crazy hyped up on a, on a drop week for Howard because he's not a good card. Martyr's gonna be in the same position. Put it to Series 3. It's not that big of a deal, right? I agree. So, that's the top of my Christmas list, Santa. Take the rest. Series drop. They have to come. What about socials? Like, having a clubs, having whatever that is, guilds having that within the game. I feel like around the holidays it'd be pretty cool to get that in the first next few months even.
Alexander Coccia:Oh, for sure. Social type stuff like kind of like guilds and things along those lines I think would be hugely beneficial. It's becoming much more of a mainstay in other games too, like, I occasionally will install other games to see what's going on, and like, oh yeah, look at this, like, even like Warcraft Rumble, for instance, has a guild based system, which like, isn't crazy, just like you, you're in a guild, and you unlock things as a team, and like, you get these, like, bonus, Resources. Hey, I get a free pack of this. I get a free pack of that just cause I'm a part of this team and I'm contributing. Right. That's there's nothing wrong with that. It's just a way to deliver kind of rewards back to your community while giving them a chat, they can communicate in and stuff like that. I think it's a cool idea. And I think that like they'll. Do it better than that. I think that whenever they come up with a social based system, it'll just be a better iteration of what other people have done. Cause that's something that Second Dinner has done. Yeah. They've always brought things out with polish and ended up being really innovative, like what conquest conquest mode could have been done so much lazier than it was, but it's actually pretty fun. It's pretty engaging.
Cozy Snap:They're the Apple, right? Like Apple does that, like Apple waits to get something out and then they perfect it and they release whatever that product is and it makes sense. It usually delivers. Totally agree. My buddy, Christmas Gift, last year we got Nick Fury. Okay? Which was fine at the time, because I think it was a pool 3 card that everybody had, whatever, right? I think that was one of the first times we got a variant first, in pool 3 even. What car, what card could they give? Which card could they give? That's like a decent, not overkill, but feels really good to the player base.
Alexander Coccia:Oh, signed Scarlet Johansson, black Widow. Easy.
Cozy Snap:Oh, okay.
Alexander Coccia:There's no other answer.
Cozy Snap:Oh, oh, another sign card. I would love that if like these just came like, and they were super rare in that sense. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think that's fun. I like it. I'm not against it. I would say, that or like a card that everybody would play with as a Series 5 and like a top contender, right? Like and I'm not saying give everybody Alioth or whatever, but in some form or fashion I think it'd be cool if everybody got like a really sick Elsa variant, Loki variant, whatever. I don't know. I think it'd be Jeff. Can you imagine a Jeff and a Christmas hat to everybody? That'd be like, the best gif of all time.
Alexander Coccia:That would be awesome. I would accept that, but it has to be signed by Jeff the baby lion shark.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, now you know we're just probably just getting angel. And, like, Merry Christmas, goodbye. Any other things for you, buddy?
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, I have a couple. One, can we get a imagine how awesome it would be in this patch. Christmas game board. Imagine getting a Christmas game board with lights on the game board, like, we need custom game boards so bad, and I got Okay, listen. I got roasted last time, where I'm like, I would pay so much money for a game board, they're like, everyone's like, don't give them ideas, Alex, dammit, right? But give us a Christmas game board. That game board needs love. It is something that is being completely neglected in Marvel Snap. Especially when you consider, what Hearthstone used to have? Do you remember like doing like the pattern on the Un'Goro drums and then like all the volcanoes and stuff would go off? That was such a nice touch. We don't have anything like that.
Cozy Snap:Yep. Agreed. A hundred without quite a dude. I very much hope that is in the future. Even within like the next six months, like, because I don't think they're going to give us one game board and that's it. I think they like, if they do one, they're going to have like a lot. You know what I mean? Like, they're going to have that as a new thing coming up. Like, like in the season the season pass, right? Like those emotes, where the hell are they? That was on my list. Put them in the season pass, put a game board in there too. Yeah, dude, they will up their sales if they put in custom game board and emotes in the season pass.
Alexander Coccia:That's a hundred percent and they should be and I'd add the other thing is season pass Why aren't we getting premium mystery variants? Remember how long we were saying? Hey put a premium mystery variant in the season pass I'm dying like just do the last one the last variant make it a premium mystery variant Like I don't understand why that's not happening. I digress one last thing Cozy And this is just, this is for me specifically, because I, Collectors Reserves are totally useless. I don't do anything with Collectors Reserves. I've not opened them. I have well over, I think I checked last time, I have 518 unopened Collectors Reserves. You know what I was thinking about? We haven't seen a Variant Rush in a while. And I think the last one was around Christmas time last year, where we did a nice Variant Rush. We unlocked the Rogue with the hat and like the hot chocolate. Why can't we do some more Variant Rushes?
Cozy Snap:I agree. Yeah, I hope they do. I think I saw somewhere that they're not doing them again. But I... Maybe they're bringing back the old ones, potentially, is what I saw from the Rogue again. But I agree, throw in, spice in a couple more, like, the Steampunk, it was really cool. You know, that was such a great way and the opening up of Cash and every now and getting, like, the Rogue and stuff was fun. Like, that was super, like, I still have that Rockslide, he's still my Rockslide variant, is the... The scissor opening, the, yeah. Whatever it is. I love it. It's great.
Alexander Coccia:It's abomination that's opening the, the present?
Cozy Snap:No, there's a rock slide one though too. Where you Oh, is rock paper scis is, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was rogue rock slide up A bomb Patriot and maybe one other one. I don't know how
Alexander Coccia:Abom has like all the lights over his shoulder. Oh, his is great. He actually, it's actually a gray variant.
Cozy Snap:This is sick. I know. I remember getting it. I'm like, I never play Abom. And then high Evo came around. And then, yeah, for me the, the closing eye roadmap obviously would be great way to kick off the end of the year. Tell us what's coming out. Tell us what's, you know, planned to come out. And deck, deck slots, second dinner, if you're listening.
Alexander Coccia:Please, more deck slots. It's fine. We have 20. It's not enough, Cozy. It's not enough.
Cozy Snap:It's crazy to say it's not enough, and I think people would be like, 20 if they're outside looking in, but because it's 12 card decks. It's like, dude, I could use a hundred. Like, you know, like I could use so many. I'm always deleting, buddy. I'm always deleting.
Alexander Coccia:Cozy, it's been a wild week in Marvel Snap with Annihilus coming out. Now, this was supposed to be an absolute archetype defining car, and I still think it is. It is definitely defining archetypes. However, it hasn't hit quite as hard as we might have expected. What has been your experience with Annihilus thus far?
Cozy Snap:Dude, so the first, like, day, I don't know about you, I was like... Putting them in my junk decks, having a ton of fun, just like, going all in on the Annihilus. But I remember, last week, I kind of left the note as we kind of ended the subject. I was like, hey, by the way... You don't have to go bonkers with the card, like, just playing the Sentry and Annihilus is enough value to play that out. Like, you know, treat them kind of like the Black Bolt and Statue Package, or the Miles Morales, like, just a great value, insane value at that play. And once I kind of geared more towards that position, I was winning like crazy with Annihilus, right? Like, he was very good in Junk, he did, he did good. But dude, I mean, I remember you were like, Yeah, Ghost could be a good play, we might see some Annihilus V Annihilus matchups. It was crazy. It's all we saw.
Alexander Coccia:Ghost was actually one of my like awesome low key, good performers because of the mere matches. And I was winning games'cause of ghost and I got to play a Valkyrie because of Ghost, which was pretty cool. And I was like, Hey, is ghost good? No, it just happens to be good, like right now for the next four days maybe. But a nihilist has a whole like, I agree. You actually legitimately nailed it with what you said when I try to. Force Annihilus, whereas in like, I tried to make everything about Occupying every slot on their board, I had Debris, I had Hood, I got all these things out, it just didn't feel as good. But when I played Annihilus as like, just a package, like you'd play Darkhawk with a package right? Darkhawk package, what is it right off the top of your head? It's Korg, it's Black Widow, it's Rockslide, it's Darkhawk, sometimes Mystique. Well I think the core package here, and tell me if I'm wrong, Annihilus If you just have Annihilus, Sentry, and Hood, you're laughing. It's all you need, you don't need to go crazy.
Cozy Snap:It's all you need, man. You're gonna see that package all over the place in the top decks right now. That that's like the new flavor, that's what's all over I mean, again, his effect is so good, and he's so unique. That is just, to counter it can be very tough. And that's why I've had a lot of Valkyrie in my deck, same reason. To try to counter some of this, if I'm playing Annihilus and or if I'm playing against, it's a great tool per se. But he forces you to clog lanes kind of early, because you don't want those Voids coming to your side. But even if you do, then the Void just gets destroyed, so you have to make sure you have enough power. He's a very good card and we, we thought he would be. I think I gave him like a 4. 5. My favorite definition that I coined for him whenever I made my video is he is just MODOK, right? Like if you don't, if you don't play Junk and or you don't even enjoy Century or even like if you don't enjoy playing with Fire whatsoever, Hood isn't worth it to you. I still think he's worth it but like I could understand passing the card. Dude, you're gonna always want him. There's going to continue to be hot Annihilus decks throughout Snap.
Alexander Coccia:I was taking a bit of a different approach, whereas I see it like Modok in the sense of like, this card is archetype defining. There's nothing that does what Annihilus does and that it's something you want in your collection, whether or not it's underpowered, overpowered. It's the kind of card you're like, you know what? I want that option. It kind of opens up a new archetype in a new way where it's like, I just, I need the option. I need Annihilus because I want to be able to turn to that card and be like, hey. You're doing exactly what I need right now. And that's, that's what a nihilist does. And the win rate, I'll just give you a quick example here. It's not great. It's currently at a 49. 3 percent win rate. It's cube rate is negative 0. 03, and it's only 6 percent of the meta. So it's not seeing a massive surge of like winning and stuff. However. You have a whole bunch of like middling 45 to 50 percent decks, and then one or two 55% ers, 54% ers, and ironically running something like a werewolf by night. It's a werewolf by night deck with Annihilus, Sentry, and Hood. It's that simple. Like, that's really all you need to do, but it's... It just really kind of shakes my thought of like, it's crazy that werewolf is the card lifting Annihilus. And it's not Debris. It's not any of the other ones that we've been thinking about.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, so a couple things on that. First of all... The very first day he came out, everybody was playing Junk Decks. Junk Decks, no matter how good the deck, you give that to the public, notoriously, it's going to have a ba Dera, myself, we were playing Junk Decks forever, and getting, we were climbing like nuts. Climbing like nuts, Dera's a top 10 player. But the public doesn't love to play with fire all the time, right? So looking at the stats, aren't always the best. He's kinda recovered, because, the sad fact, that Darkhawk, Bounce, as you've alluded to, Shuri. Those are the top decks to have him in. And that's why I'm kind of sad, because Modok at least, he's in Discard. That's about it. And I wish Annihilus was more in just Junk. But he's not gonna be, because you, why not just play good card? He's a good card, he's a great value, because he can counter. He can play, he can flop, he can clog, he can, he has decent stats as well. So overall, he's just different to Modok in that approach, right? What deck have you been playing the most with Annihilus?
Alexander Coccia:Oh, it's been the werewolf werewolf deck for sure. And there it's like, cause it's like werewolf that package, that bounce package. It's been the one with like the beast and I'll throw up on the screen, but it also, honestly, you have the century, the hood, you're getting the best of both worlds there, and I think that that makes a tremendous difference. Cause like, as we said before, when you go all in. And it's actually, you know, before I say that, it's actually not fair to Annihilus to evaluate it that way because this has been one of the easiest cards to prep for as well. There are some cards like Gladiator, eh, well, there might be some surfer gameplay this week, I don't really care. Well, they're playing Annihilus, I don't want to play Annihilus, I'm playing Destroy, and I'm just going to eat Annihilus for breakfast. Every single game. And so you saw it destroy uptake completely in prevalence. And Annihilus has a really hard time against that. So like for a while it was mirror match against Annihilus or match against destroy. You're seeing nothing else. So it doesn't surprise me. You're saying that the numbers are starting to recover because as Like Annihilus's prevalence goes down, his win rate's going to go up because he'll have more time and more space to work because you're going to be able to catch people with that surprise turn four or five whether it be on conquest or on the ladder where you snap into sentry Annihilus and they just, they weren't able to stuff that right location. And they were like, what are they going to do with a negative 10 power on the other side? It's a lot to deal with.
Cozy Snap:And do you, do you remember when I said at the very end of the Annihilus segment, I was like, Selene comes out. Could we see a balanced junk deck? Dude, that's gonna happen. With Werewolf by night, you bet that's gonna happen. Selene being an on reveal 1 cost that's a junk with Annihilus and WWBN it's gonna happen. And that is gonna be a terrifying deck, because the bounce one now is good.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, the only challenge with that I was thinking about was that, like, you might just keep Selene ing a rock that they never have to play, right? That's the one challenge potentially, but you're right though, right? Because once you play Selene, not only that, is that going over to the other side. But then what you can do is you're playing something else down, taking that to the other side. And like, the thing I love about analysis is it's so low risk. Okay. So in conquest, I had people like filling the right lane. They're like, Oh, they're going to sentry void me. I'm like, Hey, you're playing super suboptimally just to stop the void from going over. But for me, it's not like it stays there. It gets destroyed. It's not, I don't have negative 10 power. So you've committed all this zoo stuff and you have seven power on turn four or five in that location that I can just win with one card later. Anyways, a Chavez beats it. Anyways, it's kind of crazy how like it disrupts the macro side of the game, which I didn't expect, but I'm seeing it like people are fearing the Annihilus play as well and trying to play around it, but also digging themselves into a hole.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, because it's what's. Arrow is a great example. A 5 8, but if you play Arrow in the lane that they're playing, you get nothing for that 5 8. Annihilate, it just doesn't matter. It does not matter where you play, you're gonna get that effect. There is no risk, to your point. You get kinda sub optimal stats, but other than that, your deck's probably built around it for the most part, right? And you know, Black Widow is seeing a HUGE research, surge now. It's dropping off a lot more because people have a way to deal with the Widow's Bite that they just had. Heck, they can use it against you, right? So I totally agree. Annihilus is a card that's gonna stick around.
Alexander Coccia:He's damn good. Yeah, he's fun. And he's, again, an archetype defining card. I like what he does. I guess what I want to close out this discussion with though is, like, do you think he's tuned appropriately right now? Like, do you think his power level's right? Like, do you think because he used to be a 5 8. Do you think he goes back to 5. 8? Do you think, like, he just needs more support? Because we do have Selene coming out, we have Kaira coming out as well, which theoretically, I was actually, the more I think about Kaira, that might not be great. Like, I actually think Kaira might not be great, because, like, if the one cost can't get destroyed, your hood could get stuffed on your side, right? So that's a whole other thing, but then, like, it's better with debris, so maybe that's a whole different deck, where, like, I don't know. I don't know. I think like you do like a zoo junk, a Nihilist deck where you run like debris into like Absorbing Man, Blarvel, like, I don't know what that looks like. Great. But but definitely Selene a hundred percent is going to help this card out. So do you think the card is good? Do you think it needs the five, eight star line?
Cozy Snap:Yeah, it's a good question. If you look at these cards over here, like it's like, okay, could you go down to like a five, six, right? Like Claw is the hilarious example of what he offers. It's like, okay, he could go down in power. Sure. If you made this where it had to be negative, not zero, but negative. It's like no one's really, there's not a lot of debris plate, you know what I mean? And so like that still isn't, making him lane exclusive is completely kind of effing with him, you know. So it, it, I don't know what you do. I don't hate him where he's at. I think Selene could definitely enter some dangerous territory. Although if all these other decks are going up together, it's fine. We'll have to see how it pans out, but I, I, I'll see how these other decks get adjusted per se, but if they, like, completely adjust Lockdown, right, and Alioth and all that. Junk is gonna rise up, and that's a Marvel snap. I don't think anybody wants to play, and so I'm great with Junk Decks being where they're at, but they have to be careful. Because sometimes stats don't mean everything, it's feeling, right? And this could be a bad feeling for a good chunk of the casual player base. Kind of like Galactus was in the early days.
Alexander Coccia:Okay, I see what you're saying, but like, to be clear, I actually feel like he's slightly under tuned.
Cozy Snap:Oh, I think he's fine. Nah, I definitely think he's fine. No question. Because of... Bringing the combo value with the hood and with Century and these other cars, I think, I think he's at a good place.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah.'cause it, it's Century century's the real winner here for the record. And I think analysis power level is tied directly to Century because century's an unbel. It's basically, it's four 20, it's four 20 blazing. Like it's that good.
Cozy Snap:Or the hood because you're getting, you, you, you're just getting the demon on top. A demon's so good of a card, a demon's such a good card and you, and you're sitting green goblin to their side. Like, to me, that's what it's like. You're just compou There's so much happening with Annihilus, the value is throughout the charts. It is.
Alexander Coccia:It definitely is. And as I said, perhaps you will see much more Annihilus gameplay and win rates increasing as he moves out of his spotlight, wink. And everyone's excited about Martyr, and everyone's playing Martyr, and Martyr's the new thing. But one thing about Annihilus though that did not necessarily come to pass, but I was expecting it to, was that Annihilus does counter Ms. Marvel, because if you're throwing replicated costs over on their side, like the rocks or the hood, and they already dropped the Korg or whatever, like this card should be taking Ms. Marvel's win rate down. A peg. So if you feel like Ms. Marvel's a little too prevalent right now, Annihilus in theory is a good counter because they're not going to be filling locations. They just don't. Ms. Marvel doesn't do that. They play very carefully from a macro perspective and they're going to leave space in those spots. So I do think Annihilus is some good counterplay for Ms. Marvel.
Cozy Snap:I agree. Definitely. Good take.
Alexander Coccia:All right, cozy. We're going to be moving on to our top 10 archetype defining cards in Marvel snap. This is a new discussion that we're bringing out for the first time. So let's just set the stage. What we're discussing here is our top 10 ranked order of the cards that are not only the best in Marvel snap, but the best at defining an archetype, the ones that carry their archetype to new levels. Sometimes. These cards create the whole archetype and the archetype wouldn't exist without them. Right? So we're going to be weighing those cards and discussing them in top 10 order. Cozy. Let's start with our honorable mentions and I'll give you the floor.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, this was a tough one at first because so Alex, this was a subject that you sent to me and I was trying to like, It was a good thought provoker, right? I was like, man, there's so many, because I go to Destroy, let's say, and I'm like, Well, Death. Like, look at Death's impact. Well, Noel, well, Vin Okay, so maybe no one represents Destroy to the fullest degree. And then it was like, Odin! Well, well, Wong does a lot too, right? So, like For me, Odin and some of these destroy cards kind of jumped out as like, I don't know if I got to put them in just a very strict top 10, if you will.
Alexander Coccia:No, I agree. Like, they're not in mine because like, although obviously Odin is a linchpin of Unreveal, it's like, it needs the supporting cast. Odin's only good because it's making every other card redo it's on reveal. Without the other cards, Odin is just jumping up and down by himself. It doesn't completely define the archetype, right? It just re it just enables that archetype in some way. And I think that some of the cards we're going to be talking about in this top 10, if you take those cards out of the archetype, The archetype just crumbles, it falls apart. And it's like the glue that keeps that archetype together. And that's what I'm most interested in. So a couple of my my kind of honorable mentions, I include Sarah as an honorable mention. Like we don't build, I mean, Sarah Control for the longest time was an absolute staple in the meta. It's not so much anymore. It seems like the meta is getting much more offensive and aggressive. Sarah Control at its core was a defensive. I don't have apocalypse in the top 10, which is kind of crazy. Cause I do think that it is a key component of discard. MODOK is another one that I did not include in my top 10. And again, the destroys, deaths, venoms, Deadpool. It's like they just, they all come together in a way where not one of them doesn't quite fully carry. But they do together as a package do define the archetype as a whole. So it was very difficult to place these cards and I'm ready to get in to the top 10.
Cozy Snap:Let's do it, man. I can kick us off with number 10 for me. And this was It's funny because you don't think of it as a archetype all the time. We hear the term a ton, like control and things like that, right? But, because I was like, man, maybe Storm. Does Storm represent it? I'm like, well, no. It's Dr. Doom and we have ways to really get there. Pro X is where I'm going to kick it off. Number 10 is Lockdown. I don't think Lockdown is Lockdown with Pro X. Look at every list that has had Lockdown with success, even the High Evil Lockdown days. You wanted to have Professor X in there. I don't know, you, there is no control, truly, with the Alioth fear. Right, if you have all three lanes to play an Alioth, loses a lot of his luster, right? But Professor X really limits this down a ton. So Professor X for me, number 10 as the... Stand alone card in control that really ramps it up.
Alexander Coccia:I love the call out and what's crazy about Professor X is you're seeing him being played on turn 4 without the benefit of something like a Daredevil. You remember a long time ago when we used to be like, you can't play Prof X without a Daredevil, that's craziness! And now, when you get him out ramped on turn 4, you can just so calmly just sauce him out there to see what happens, right? So I do like that the Professor X is getting called out, not in my top 10, but I totally respect that he's there. My number 10 is The Living Tribunal. Now, this is a spicy take because its win rate is not always the hottest, but it does have a pretty decent cube rate. What I'll say about The Living Tribunal, though, is that, like, it is a very specific style of play. If, basically, you like AFKing for five turns, and then playing one card on turn six or seven, then, hey, this is the deck for you. Basically, Living Tribunal, I think, really changes the way you approach Marvel Snap. Nothing does what Living Tribunal does in terms of spreading the power across three locations. So it really does completely define a very specific play style in Marvel Snap, and for me, it's a fun archetype.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, it was tough too, because like, some of these I went good, but I also went like, just this card, you can't play it without it, so LT's a good one there, because you don't get to play that archetype without obviously Living Tribunal. I guess you could go on going though, you have that route a little bit. But yeah, I like the pick there, I don't have it in mind personally. Number 9, Mr. Alex. Number 9 for me, or for you? I had Annihilus, who do you have?
Alexander Coccia:You know what, it's crazy, Annihilus is for me at 11. He ended up being 11 for me. He's just out. I was going to bring that up, but like, okay, talking about Annihilus being number 9, because I'm interested in this, because it felt heartbreaking for me not to include him.
Cozy Snap:I mean, we just mentioned a lot of it, right, but really just Junk in general has needed a closer. Junk has needed an identity that wasn't Viper. Viper was like The representation of a junk deck and maybe Doc Ock. Now we have this kind of president, the king of the junk decks. And to me, he's going to be the archetype defining card moving forward.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, I can see that, right? And like, man, I really was trying to make a deck work with like Hazmat and you know, Annihilus. I just couldn't quite get it. I think that when space opens up later in the meta, I think it'll be a little more applicable. But you are right, it is an archetype defining card, it just didn't quite do it for me this first week, but again, it's only the first week, a lot of people were prepared, a lot of people were going to counter it, this might be a card that ages like fine wine. And we do already have decks that are running mid 50 percent win rates, solid decks, nothing crazy yet, we've been so used to these cards coming out being like absolutely broken out of their minds. And now we have Annihilus, which is, has incredible potential, but feels very fair. Gladiator, which is hilariously fun, but we're not going to say it's powerful. And we've got Martyr coming out next week. What a time to be a Marvel Snap player. For me, I know it's one of your favorites, and I'm curious to see if you have it on your list too. Maybe higher, but for me, it's Patriot. I mean, Patriot, I feel like I could have gotten higher, but I mean, Patriot's one of the kings of the redefining archetypes. I, I laugh all the time. I still get comments new players saying, Hey, Alex. Misty Knight is so bad. Why would I ever put this in a deck? I was like, my friend, you have not unlocked Patriot yet, obviously, or High Evil for that matter. But yes, I think that Patriot opens up a whole new archetype and naturally is one of the best in the game.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, man we, maybe we'll talk about them in just a second, or maybe it'll be the next card we talk about. Yeah, I have Patriot coming up at number eight. So you know, there's no, there are ways to win without Patriot, but... He's always kind of the, he's always the main piece of the deck to get the rest of it popping off, right? Like, the difference of having Patriot and playing Dr. Doom and not is definitely massive, right? It's just such a big change. Ultron even the smaller cards take it back to the early days, you know? Like, you didn't see a Shocker Cyclops. Still really don't, but you did it unless it was under the the Patriot deck. So I firmly agree with you there. Who do you have at eight?
Alexander Coccia:Number eight for me is going to be Hela. Now listen, Hela makes its way into so many different decks right now, whether it be Living Tribunal. Could have actually put them as a package together, honestly, without it just been cheating. But Hela, I mean Discard, obviously Tribunal. There's so many decks using Hela, but at the end of the day. Really, this card does nothing, nothing like any other card in Snap. Like there's something beautiful about playing Hela and just watching your cards all fall into the wrong spots and you losing the game anyway. Like that's, that's my favorite part about Hela. It's pure casino. It's a very specific style of deck to play. And you know what? It got a shout out earlier. Cuz it was one of the decks on that top 10 of cards that win when they're played, right? When you got that Hela in your hand and you're ready to go, it's an absolute beauty.
Cozy Snap:Number one. Number one. She was number one on that list, which is why I have her a lot higher. She is the archetype. Not a lot higher. I have her higher. And so, yeah, dude, I agree. I can talk about her now instead of when I have her on. There is no Hela list without Hela. When you discard Hela, you retreat. That's it. Like, there's really no backup plan for the most part. And for me, I'm like, if we're thinking about archetypes, this is the way it's played. Living Tribunal, it's like, okay, you have the Onslaught Iron Man, maybe pull off something else, you know. Hela, you're all in. You're getting rid of everything, and you're just hoping. You're hoping. And if you don't get the Lockjaw doesn't pop off, you're gonna lose the game most of the time, too. So definitely agree. Until we get... More Ghost Rider 1 or 2 off resurrection cards. She is the architect.
Alexander Coccia:Ghost Rider's pure Hopium, by the way. That is pure Copium. Like, ain't, like, no one's playing Hela with Ghost Rider blading their Hela, then using, ah, it's not happening, right? Like, Ghost Rider's pure Hopium. I've seen that happen very often. You're like, hey, just play Ghost Rider in your Hela deck. It's like, you wanna play Ghost Rider in your Hela deck, right? We're talking about pure greed here. We're at the casino. We're going all, we're putting a hundred thousand dollars on red. That's what, that's what hell it is. Right? You're at the slot machine, just throwing your wallet. You're trying to stuff your wallet into the slot machine. That's what hell is.
Cozy Snap:If you're going all in, you gotta, you gotta go all in, right? Yeah. There's no backup plans when there's no breaks. You know what I mean? Like you just gotta go all the way. I like that. I'm gonna put that on a t shirt for me and funny enough, hell is my next one. So that's easy. Like the next on number seven. But A for me is Thanos. Thanos. I love him as a card. He's very good. Obviously, he creates his own archetype in such a crazy way. Now, I will say there's a lot of ways to still play Thanos. Destroyer, and you have Destroyer as a backup, whatever it might be. But, the utility of the stones. Most Thanos decks are using these stones to their advantage. He's such a I don't even know if people would think of, like, if I were to have a microphone and I was going to snap players, I don't know if Thanos would come up as an archetype. Like, some people don't even put the two together. But Thanos deck Is Thanos, right? Really, you can come up with the coolest deck in the world, and if Thanos is in there, people will just say, Oh, nice Thanos deck. You know what I mean? Like, he is, that alone carries a lot of value and so yeah, I had Thanos right here.
Alexander Coccia:You remember when you got so upset when I had Carnage at 8 on the top 10 destroy list? And you're like, how can you even do that? That's what I feel like right now with your Thanos at 8.
Cozy Snap:You've got him way, way Dude, again, I was thinking about cards that if you took them out, that archetype's done. And I know a backup plan There are backup plans. In the Thanos decks in my head, but I totally get, I mean, I understand that just what I just said, whereas if you have Thanos in a deck, people are gonna say nice Thanos deck, does define it quite a lot. I just couldn't put them higher than the ones that I have.
Alexander Coccia:Let's just say we're going to talk about him a little later. And by a little later, I mean, way later.
Cozy Snap:Oh, okay. All right. So that was my eight and then seven was hella for me. What was your seven?
Alexander Coccia:Number seven. One of my absolute favorite cards in Marvel snap. And I get excited every time I get to talk about it. It's silver surfer. This card not only defines an archetype, but it defines every single card that releases at that power. When you see a three drop coming into Marvel snap, like Gladiator, you think to yourself, Hey. How's that going to perform in a surfer list? And I gotta be honest with you, Cozy, I never get sick of playing Silver Surfer. I absolutely love it. I feel like the archetype as a whole has so many options at three. You have tech, you got power, you have disruption, you have everything you need at the three costs and Silver Surfer puts a beautiful bow on it, ties it all together and gives you that power that you need to close out a game. I can't say enough about Silver Surfer.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, I like it a lot, dude. It's like, this is, we're, we're either one ahead or one behind. Silver was my next, right? So, for me, I was trying to think of where to put Surfer. Cause again, it's like, well, does he need to be in the deck, you know? Yeah, the deck isn't going to be able to complete it without it. Surfer is always like, one of my most loved decks. Because I love the... Honestly, the creativity. You are not like Annihilus, right? It's like, you're held, you're held to the junk cards, you got a sentry in there. Surfer! Dude, you can look at, you can create, destroy surfer, discard surfer, on reveal, control, you got a little bit of everything, gladiator. It's fun. It's a great card and it really obviously defines the archetype and you're not going to win for the most part unless you draw him.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, and the nice thing about it too is like it feels so much less stress than like a Zabu deck. With Silver Surfer, you got six turns to draw Silver Surfer. I ain't stressing about it. Hey, I don't have Silver Surfer? Yeah, I ain't stressed. I got more turns. It's not a big deal, right? And if you're really stressed about that, play some Crystal. I wouldn't recommend it, but you got an option in it if you really need to. But honestly, Silver Surfer, I just can't get enough of it. And one of the most fun decks I've been playing lately has been a Silver Surfer Gladiator deck. The win rate is acceptable, but the fun factor is remarkable. I've been having so much fun with it. And honestly, this is a card that I can play for the rest of my Marvel Snap career and not even bat an eye.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, the ma the magic crystal, both those work. Yeah, again, there's ways to lean into a surfer no matter what. So that was my... Surfer was my 6th. We're on to your 6th, Alex.
Alexander Coccia:No, have you even said your 7th yet? Are we getting confused?
Cozy Snap:No, I said hella. Yeah, yeah, I've told you, I'm always 1
Alexander Coccia:we're all over the place now. We're like skipping ahead on yours a little bit. That's right.
Cozy Snap:Well, yeah, you keep if it's like 4 ahead, I'd be like, Oh, we'll talk about it later, but it's the next one. So I'm like, I don't know, just say it now, yeah.
Alexander Coccia:Well, at least we're in the same ballpark for some of these, except for the absolute disrespect you showed Thanos. I can't believe this, man, I'm still in shock. Number six is might be a controversial hot take, but for me it's Galactus. Now this is less about the power output of Galactus, but more about the threat of Galactus and how Galactus in and of itself. is absolutely archetype defining. If you have a deck that's a Galactus deck and you take Galactus out, that ain't a Galactus deck anymore. It doesn't do what Galactus does. It doesn't have that boom, kneel, fool. Like it doesn't do that thing. It is literally one of the most obnoxious cards in Marvel Snap. And for that reason, it deserves a spot in the top 10 archetype defining cards.
Cozy Snap:See, I feel like Galactus, the archetype has died. It doesn't exist anymore. And now I have them as this fun alternative play option, right? Like I've got like. Yeah, when you see goblins, it's typically Galactus. But like, I have these decks around, and then I'm like, Ah, I'll throw in Galactus in there, because I will win if I play him in the opportune time. And that's what I feel like he's become. But I also get what you mean, like, he's as unique as you get in Marvel Snap, you know.
Alexander Coccia:He definitely is like, there's, there's just, we always say this. There's nothing that does what Galactus does in Marvel Snap, but it is true. This is such a huge ability. It's not, listen, when they came down to the launch, the, like the original launch onto mobile, they're like, what do we do? What card do we showcase? You know, it's that kneeling before Galactus. That's a huge part of the trailer, right? This card is big. It's obnoxious. It hits hard. It's been nerfed like 45 times. And people still wanted to get Nerf more because it is extremely polarizing and I just think it's a fantastic card in terms of like just keeping you on your toes. All right. I like where it is right now when it was like 10 percent of the meta. No, I'm not a fan of that. That's not good. That's not good Galactus. 3 percent of the meta catches you by surprise with your, you know, your shorts down. That's, that's Galactus. Now we're in our top five and Cozy, listen, I hope, I hope. That you know, you got some hot takes in the five, five slots here. Cause you've already had a couple hot takes getting here. Oh yeah. So, for number five, I'd like for you to start us off with what you've got.
Cozy Snap:Hot take man to me, there is no, you will not play Discard without Modok. You don't play him. You, you said it earlier, I get it, you could maybe attribute some of it to APOC or whatever. There's no point in playing this. There's no point. You can play Destroyer without Null. You can play it without Death. You are at such a disadvantage. I can't even fabricate like a true core discard deck without MODOK doing what he does. So MODOK for me, the disrespect hurt. And I kept, I was like, alright, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna go on a full tangent. But MODOK is the archetype defining card of discard. If I think of discard, I think of MODOK most of the time. If you're serious about playing it, He's the one, the power jump of everything. Everything you're playing down, right? You're Morbius and then you've got your Dracula. The Apoc, sure. Chavez having her own slot in there for multiple reasons. It's gotta be Modok.
Alexander Coccia:Well, I agree with you. I did, I did not include Modok here, but like, this is a card I've always had a respect for, so I totally get your placement. Number five for me though, it's. My number, my top five, I feel like I could change at any given time. If I were to write this list over and over again, it would change. And I might, I might have this guy a little low, honestly. It's low key it's low key because like, listen, it defines an archetype. It's way more plug and playable than most others. But it is an archetype defining card because like, yeah, you got your, you got your opponent's archetype now, right? Like it's, it's kind of interesting from that perspective, but it doesn't, it doesn't have the play style of like a Hela or a Tribunal or a Patriot. But it is its own archetype, isn't it? And for me, it deserves a spot in the top five.
Cozy Snap:Okay. Yep, definitely. I, I I've got Loki coming up. I'll, I'll reserve, I'll reserve my comments for that. Next I've got is Shuri, and this one was tough.
Alexander Coccia:Same here. Four, Shuri. Let's go, we nailed it. We got one.
Cozy Snap:It was tough. It was, we got one, right? Yeah. It was tough for me though, because I'm also like, well, she kinda could just be in a zero deck, right? And then it's like, she doesn't need to be there. But a Shuri deck is not called a zero deck anymore. It's called a Shuri deck, right? Because of the... The, the, what she does man, she does, she is the archetype in the sense of what she get the double power man, the taskmaster, your finishes. Is what truly brought her to the next level. Yes, you can do Zero from the Red Skull. Great. But for the most part, Shuri and do the Taskmaster, that's what it's all about.
Alexander Coccia:At the end of the day, there's a reason why every time I talk about this deck, I say Shuri and Sauron and not Sauron and Shuri. Despite Sauron being one of the best cards in the game, we've talked about this a million times, Shuri defines that archetype. I couldn't agree more.
Cozy Snap:Agreed, buddy. We've got, so that was four. We're in our top three now. We're in the top three. The big three, buddy. I've got at number three, and this is one it's like... There is no this deck without this card. That, that's pretty much all of these at this point. So I've got myself, Mr. Negative. Now, he may not be played all that much, because he can't be played all that much, because he's too OP if you make him too OP. He's one of those cards. He's all about, I just made a deck guide on him. If you pull him, you pretty much win, right? If you pull him and you have a ramp card, you can play him out on curve. Most of the time, you're going to win. And then if you play Jane, you're going to win for sure. Whether that's two cubes or eight, that's up to your opponent. But he is the archetype. That's it. That's it. There is no Mr. Negative. You will lose. I can't think of a time you can really win. I've tried, trust me. Ravonna helps out a little bit, but Mr. Negative is the archetype, and that's why I got him here.
Alexander Coccia:You know, I love the color. I didn't include Negative because I feel like his spot in the meta has been so terminalist. Like, it's been like just, he's been gone, he comes back, and then he's just gone again. And like, you're trying to resurrect him as much as you can, Cozy. I do respect you for that. You're giving him the good old pump, but like... It's, oh man, you know what, maybe I'm wrong. I should have included him. I should have, you're right, like he is the, he is literally the spirit of this conversation, isn't he?
Cozy Snap:Three top 50 players play Mr. Negative and climb a ton. He's a card that you know when to leave for one, you know when to go for two, and then you definitely know your point, dude, I don't, I can't tell you how many people stay when I've got a Nolan Arnim Zola. He's kind of like a Nihilus. You don't have to go all in. Jane Foster Negative, you don't have to put all these zero power cards, man. There's no reason you just have to get a couple in there. And honestly, just Arnim Nola is really all you need with Ironman in there and Mystique.
Alexander Coccia:Okay. So I mean, our top threes here, the next two got to be similar. They got to be similar because I would be shocked if you didn't have these two cards. But every time we say that we shock ourselves too. But I'm taking a bit of a reach here for my number three, maybe, because for me, it's Darkhawk. It's not like your traditional, traditional archetype defining card. But listen, think about that package. Darkhawk. And then you have Mystique. You have Black Widow. You have Korg. You have Rockslide. And like, that whole package to me almost feels like an archetype. And it's been so consistently good for so long. That for me, like, it is one of the absolute best cards in the game. If not one of the absolute best cards ever released.
Cozy Snap:Yeah hey, I mean, I'm not, I'm not arguing he's not amazing. For me, I couldn't include him as an archetype. Because, like, he's a package, is what you, it seems I don't have Zabu. It's like, Zabu and the fours, I always struggle making cool thumbnails for like, what describes them, right? Because it, it, it is a weird thing to describe. Like, I think I had like, four Flood for a while, is what I used to call it. Zabu and a lot of fours. Zabu and Darkhawk I don't have in here, because I don't have them as a strict, archetype per se right just as like turn seven slam is a weird archetype so yeah i don't have dark hawk it's a package to me but i i get the thought process if that makes sense.
Alexander Coccia:You know i totally get it too like that's why i feel like i'm reaching a little bit but like this card i think has been so meta defining for so long with the same cards and just the same approach to the gameplay Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying and you know, maybe, maybe I'm wrong, but who knows. I do think the card's fantastic. Now, let's get into our top two now. Now, what I'm going to do here is I'm going to read out my second and I wonder if it's your second too. It is four cost or four. You never want to play them. What is it, Cozy?
Cozy Snap:Wow, we were close, we were close, but see, we missed, we missed, we missed, what do you have? 4 4? What do you got?
Alexander Coccia:4 4, High Evo.
Cozy Snap:Okay, so we always do this typically like our 1 2 So you're 1 Thanos because you've been talking about, I'm guessing, right? I'm 1 Thanos. So my 1's High Evo just because like he is the deck, same thing, and he's popular at the moment. Loki's my 2. You touched on it earlier. To me, Loki, like, there is no Loki deck. You have Collector, yeah! But there is no Loki deck. You don't need Collector. To be great with Loki, you don't need any other cards to be great with Loki. The discounting by himself, he controls the archetype, he is the archetype. He could be one, so be it, whatever. I wanted something spicy, so with High Evo, I think it's a little bit better. So that's where I was at, but Hey, we're close. We both have Haievo up there. I didn't forget him this time. And then I've got Loki, who you had a little bit lower and I had Thanos a little bit lower.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah. So yeah, for me, Haievo number two, Thanos number one. I just think that Thanos, you take out Thanos, take out all the stones, that whatever deck you have doesn't, isn't a deck anymore. It just doesn't work. And so that was kind of my idea around Thanos. And plus it is such a unique play experience in Marvel snap. There's nothing like playing a Thanos deck. It's not even Marvel snap. No, there's more cards. There's more cards. It's not a 12 card deck. Right. But I do agree. Loki has been absolutely insane. And it's just been, it's been a wild card, wild card. And I really do hope that they make it more accessible to some new players. Cause I think it's one of those cards that every player needs to have in their collection. It really is. If you're someone that doesn't have all the cards, you know, you're not pool 5 complete or pool 4 complete, or even pool 3 complete for that matter, get Loki, enjoy the game, have fun. And that's just the way I see that. Really fun top 10 cozy, and I like the idea that like, we kind of like, we, we kind of were off each other a little bit here with some different ideas. Thinking to it, I think I agree with your take on Darkhawk, maybe not. Being an archetype defining card, but like, I still feel like he was close. I think I did do Mr. Negative dirty though. I'm going to call that out too, but we don't show each other our decks in advance or our lists in advance. So like it comes to a surprise to both of us, which I think makes it more fun. Cozy, any closing thoughts on our top 10?
Cozy Snap:No, dude, I, listen, I hope our viewers like the top 10s. Cause no matter what the debate is, I just enjoy comparing them and having like the discussion about it, but also like. It's cool to see different opinions on, like, this one was pretty different. But, the way that the game is played and approached, you know, we do line up a lot, but it's great to see things that you highlight, that I completely whiff, and vice versa. So what I am excited about, though, dude, is this mail bag. Mail time, mail time, mail time, blue, blue's clues for those 90... It's here listening. We got some, we got some, we got some questions, Alex, don't we?
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, we do. So this is our first ever mailbag that we're doing where you can actually submit the questions in advance. So if you have a question you'd like to ask, Cozy and I, whether it's about Marvel snap life or anything you want comment on YouTube, just say mailbag and ask the question and mailbag and capsule just help make it easier for us to catch it there. But I do appreciate everyone kind of offering their questions up and we'll pick five or six every single week. Go through them. And if your question is not answered on one week. Just ask next week, right? Because like we had a ton of questions and we want to get through as many as we can. So this week, we're going to get started from Dylan McGregor. Hey, love the Snapchat and love that you and Cozy chat together about stuff off each other. My question would be besides Marvel Snap, is there any other video games you guys play regularly, whether it be single player, card games or any sort of online game?
Cozy Snap:First of all, I like it. We've gotten this before in a good way. I don't know the questions, which is awesome. So we've got this before. I wonder if we get another, is my dad gonna come back from the cigarette run, I'll never recover from that. But, this is always good, because we're gamers, so we're always playing games, right, and updating that. I don't get to play games as much as I used to, obviously, I've turned a hobby into a career. But, of course, man, I'm a big gamer. I play a lot of Overwatch, it always has my heart, I'm a big Overwatcher. Play with Dexter when I can. Me and him sweat. It's fun to do some sweating there. So Overwatch is kinda like my competitive game. I've always needed like a competitive game, Alex. To kind of get my juices flowing, snap is that, but this is different. Outside of that I just beat Mario Wonder. I've been doing a lot of plane travel, so that was like my, my plane game. was a great 2D Mario game at that. And Fire Emblem is an old school game, but I went back and I have a little emulator boy thing to play like old school Game Boy Advance games. And that's like kind of my fun. Pick that I play a little bit before bed, you know, if I just need a break.
Alexander Coccia:What kind of role do you play in Overwatch? It's not a game I've played in forever.
Cozy Snap:Oh, yeah, man. So, dude, I was top 500 at one point. But Genji and Pharah, so DPS. But I do a lot of tank too. I'm not much of a support guy. But I do mainly DPS with tank if I need to flex, yeah.
Alexander Coccia:I believe I only played Mercy, like that's the only hero I played at all. I only played Mercy, I have no FPS skills whatsoever. I was just like, I'm gonna hide and just heal you, just, you do everything, I'll just like, dodge and hide. You ever meet a Mercy player? Let me know.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, oh dude, come on over. It's great. They're late nights, man, it'll be like 4am your time, but hey, you're up all night, so that'll be perfect.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah. For me, the game that like I've been playing I'm going to isolate one specifically. It's been a SteamWorld Dig 2. I know this sounds crazy and that's super random, but I love SteamWorld. I love the SteamWorld series. There's a new SteamWorld build game coming out about building a little city in the SteamWorld. And like, I have it on my Switch so that I can, I actually have it on PC too, but I bought it specifically for my Switch. So I'm laying in bed. I'm like, ah, give me that, give me that sweet, sweet SteamWorld Dig gameplay. Just for the 10 minutes I need before I fall asleep. I love the game. It has such a fun. There's a fantastic gameplay loop of digging, getting a whole bunch of like gems and stuff, handing it in, upgrading. If you've not played SteamWorld Dig during Black Friday sales, you can get it so cheap. It's such a fun game.
Cozy Snap:Did you play Terraria a lot?
Alexander Coccia:I've never played Terraria. No, I have it. I have it. Like it's on my Steam list, but I've never played it.
Cozy Snap:If you love digging and you love it, then that'll be what you're all about, man. It's a fun game to get lost in. You will get sucked in though. It's one of those for sure. So I love it, man. Good question.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah. Next question from expert is I wanted to ask if there was ever a chance that a second dinner would add a replay system to Marvel snap. I think adding one would be so awesome for content creators and for people who want to get better at the game. Kaluzi, what are your thoughts?
Cozy Snap:Yeah, I mean, I think it's a package deal. They need to go all in on competitive play. And if they do that, spectator mode will come, right? So the more they lean into that, the more we will get it. I think it'd be fantastic for. I can't tell you how many reasons. I would love that on the content creation side, but also on even just like playing on stream, Alex, and being like, Hey, let's go check out that game we just played, and let me show you the mistake I made, or let me show you what just happened, or dude, that play was nuts, let's go back and look. I would love it, man. Do I think it'll come? I don't think it's at the top of their forefront. In my opinion, I think it could be a little ways away. Maybe summer, maybe longer, maybe much longer. We'll have to see. What about you?
Alexander Coccia:It's hard to say. Yeah. Like, cause like, I think it would be super valuable. There's so replays are incredibly educational. Like when I used to cover Dota 2, like replays were the primary way that you would get better at marble snap or by Dota 2 is what I meant. Because like, you would analyze your replay, see your mistakes and like having that ability to reflect. And see the mistakes you're making, you're making and like, kind of like learn from them, especially since like, you'll lose a game, you'll be like, ah, I just lost and you go next. But Marvel Snap, if you really think critically about every game and every move you made, you can say like, huh, I lost that game on turn six because I was making moves on turn two that were suboptimal. And so I do think that a replay system would be hugely beneficial to Marvel Snap because it is an incredibly just educational resource for anybody, any game would benefit from a replay source. So I think it's a great question, but I think you're right. I don't see it being on top of the list because it just, it won't, it doesn't sell players. Like it doesn't get people back in the game. Oh, there's a replay system. I'm coming back to Marvel snap. It can't be a priority. It's it just can't be.
Cozy Snap:Agreed, bud. Yeah, agreed. Good question.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah. Great question. And our next question is by Buildodang. And basically it reads, and I'm going to kind of summarize here, but do you think that there would be a new section in the shops or somewhere that would specifically provide series builds around cards like Surfer, Sauron and Patriot? So I guess the idea here would be. Like, you know, you buy a bundle and it's not just a bundle of like credits or boosters, but imagine getting a bundle of like, hey, here's Patriot or no, here's Sauron, Shuri, and Red Skull together in a bundle to give you like an archetype that you can play with as a new player.
Cozy Snap:Yeah, so I think they need to, in year two, address new players. So like I have great content creator friends. They were like, dude, I would go all in on Snap if I wasn't time gated. And I like the time gateness per se. It helps you learn the game, all that good stuff. This is an easy thing in an easy way. To bring that little bit of time gateness and have a instant Red Skull Sherry Taskmaster little kit. Make it cost more tokens, right? Like 3, 000 tokens or even a premium at, you know, 3, 500. I don't know, right? Because we were so far past. The Pool 3 Buy With Tokens. So we like missed that boat, but I know people because I've tried to help them build decks, and I'm like Oh, go Shuri deck. I'm like, oh, you don't have Task Mask. Go Patriot. Oh, you don't have, you know what I mean? So it, it, I love the idea. Hopefully, Second Dinning listens. I personally think they should have a big, like, whatever whale bundle. If you want to get all in, and you're okay spinning, this is how you do it. And then if you want to go the free to play route, you can go this route, and it's a little bit quicker. Definitely needs to come to Snap.
Alexander Coccia:Yeah, even like Hearthstone has a like, catch up bundle now. Like, they're selling catch up packs?
Cozy Snap:That's, yeah, that's when they're Kind of interesting? Yeah, yeah, huh. Yeah, that, that, that, that, it's They come out one of two ways. As a last resort to get player base there, or as a way to get new players in, right? And so I think It's a great way to get people that used to play the game back and they've missed the meta. But what I love about snap is the meta dude. It's like, it's always changing, right?
Alexander Coccia:It is always changing truly. And thankfully the spotlight cash system is helping more players get hands on more cards. Now we have another question here. We have a question from Matty Harmony saying, do you guys play any Marvel board games? I noticed that Alex has a Marvel Splendor in his background. Thanks for the podcast. And they're referring to the. Right above my head, which I'm still blocking with my chair. I can't quite get out of the way. There it is. It's the Thanos right there. But yeah, we do have a Marvel board game in my, my backdrop here. And ironically, I've never played it. Cozy. Do you play any Marvel board games?
Cozy Snap:Marvel champions is a really good game. I believe it's called Marvel champions. It's like you can play it by yourself. You can play with a friend. Very fun. It's a, it's a big, you need some people to play with for the most part, but it's a great game. I played it a ton before snap. It's another card game. And Marvel Munchkin. I played Munchkin. If you know what Munchkin is, it's like one of my... Favorite, I love Munchkin. And there's a Marvel edition, a little OP, there's some cards that are a little questionable but if you, if you want to look for a Marvel board game, those would be the two.
Alexander Coccia:I've not played any Marvel board games, I'd like to, I've been kickstarting a whole bunch of Marvel board games, I got this X Men Dice coming soon, I guess, I kickstarted that, I, we both kickstarted that Galactus one, I don't remember what it's called.
Cozy Snap:What?
Alexander Coccia:Don't you remember? It's been like, it was like a year and a half.
Cozy Snap:Oh yeah. It was a long time ago. I forgot, dude. I forgot about that completely. I think you sent that to like, Oh, this is sick. Yeah. Let's go with it.
Alexander Coccia:I don't remember the name of it. It's like, Oh no,
Cozy Snap:it's such a good IP to go with. No, I have no idea, but it's such a good IP to go with. Cause it's, it's, it's Marvel, right? I think Ben Brode said it best. I didn't want to use like laser face. Cyclops is so much better. And so, yeah, yeah.
Alexander Coccia:Of course. Is there, is there a board game generally that stands out for you though? A Marvel one. Any game, any board game?
Cozy Snap:Oh, dude. Too many to, too, too many in one question to talk about. For me though, like, and this is like not the board game I'd picked, I have much deeper cuts than this, but like, I loved with my buddies playing Monopoly, but very seriously, we would play like, it was like we were negotiating like stocks and trades and like it was, it was getting outta hand. We made our own rules very fast and then that kind of like led me to other games. Down the road. Yeah, I'm a big board game guy. How about you?
Alexander Coccia:It's like my friends and I, when we were younger, we'd play House Rules Risk, which I thought was truly remarkable. And I think that was a ton of fun. We'd make our own rules, and we'd have the board, like, stay at my buddy's house. And, like, we'd promise and swear not to touch it. We'd go back day after day. All right. One last question to close out the podcast here. And it's from James. James says, Hey, I got a question for you guys. If you were to meet a variant of yourself from another reality, what would you envision your variant would be like? And what would you ask them? Cozy? I'll let you start us off here.
Cozy Snap:Oh my God. That's a tough one. I didn't prefer any of these. A variant of myself, a Canadian cozy. What does Canadian cozy look like? And Alex's shoes, right? I got four kids. I'm a teacher. Maybe I like taffy chocolate, toffee chocolate, and and I enjoy Costco. I want to meet that cozy. I'm sure he's, he's a great, very swell, nice guy. Be his friend. What about you, buddy? Canadian cozy has a great ring to it too.
Alexander Coccia:I mean, American Alex sounds pretty cool too. I got this beautiful hair. I get haircuts like four times a week. I get.
Cozy Snap:The glasses, dude. You could be, you could be American right now with those bad boys.
Alexander Coccia:Buddy, you live in a vacation destination. I have to put winter tires on my car. Have you ever had to put winter tires on your vehicle, Cozy? Do you know what that's like? Disaster. Have you ever like walked outside and be like, well, I can't drive to work today because my whole house is covered in snow. That happens to me.
Cozy Snap:I put a hoodie on the other day. Yeah, that was, that was it. I was like, oh. A little breezy.
Alexander Coccia:So surfer variant Alex does sound pretty damn cool too. I got to tell you.
Cozy Snap:Probably super hot too. If I had to take a guess. Again, Canadian cozy next channel coming soon.
Alexander Coccia:Canadian. That's actually a great idea. Canadian cozy. We just get you up to Canada. Just force feeds you ketchup chips and like Costco to wear flannel.
Cozy Snap:I rock a flannel from time to time.
Alexander Coccia:You ever shoveled snow before?
Cozy Snap:No. But Alex, that takes us to the end of this episode of The Snap Chat.
Alexander Coccia:Hey, thank you so much everyone for joining us here today on the Snapchat. We really appreciate everyone's support.
Cozy Snap:Guys, hopefully you enjoyed this episode of the Snapchat. Happy December ahead. And until the next one, Happy snapping.