Hydra Stomper: The New Weapon for Move | Snap Packs: Are They Enough? | Strange Supreme In Review | The Snap Chat Ep. 130

Will Hydra Stomper be the new weapon for move? Are Snap Packs enough to spark interest in new and returning players? What are Cozy and Alex's final rankings on Strange Supreme? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome
• 0:15 The Chat Before The Chat
• 2:45 Alex's Topics
• 3:11 Hydra Stomper
• 18:56 OTA
• 21:13 Off Topic - Other Games
• 27:52 Back to OTA
• 32:40 Snap Packs: Are They Enough?
• 40:15 Off Topic - TV and Movies
• 45:53 Strange Supreme
• 51:44 Snap Packs Chase Cards
• 1:08:38 Snap Chat Mailbag
• 1:17:08 Outro

Transcript

Cozy Snap: 0:00

What's going on guys? And welcome to yet another episode of the Snapchat. We're gonna be closing out April with a big one. We have Hydra Stomper. The snap packs are on the way. We have a big OTA Alex, how you doing today, man? What's going on? And welcome to yet another beautiful week of Marvel Snap.

Alexander Coccia: 0:15

I am doing great buddy. And you know what, it is a beautiful week here in Canada as well. The sun is finally out. The kids are playing outside, which is great. I got the notes done for the Snapchat and like peace and quiet.'cause usually there's like screaming and yelling and like kids body slamming each other or toys into the ground of over our heads. I'm sure if you've been listening for a while, you hear like the noises of like stuff hitting our walls and stuff while we're recording. You can actually hear it right now. But what I will tell you is that through outside. It's been fantastic. It, it, listen by fantastic. I mean like, it's 19 degrees Celsius and it feels great.

Cozy Snap: 0:46

Listen, I just got back from looking at a couple new cars. I'm finally gonna I've had a Jeep forever for a long time, for like eight years. And you know, it's something, the most kid friendly car. And so gonna be grabbing a a new one. And bro, I was there with my son today and I, I could only think. Of one memory being there with my son and it's the classic Al. If you guys don't know if you're newer listeners, Alex, what happened when you brought your kids over to to test out some new new Kias?

Alexander Coccia: 1:15

Oh no. Okay, so I think you're talking about when we, when we went to the Toyota dealership and my son, he had oh man, he had etched into the side of our vehicle with a rock math questions because I guess he was using it like an iPad or something. And then, so when we were trying to figure out like we were gonna buy a new minivan. We brought our Kia Sorento 2016 baby, all the way into Toyota to get like evaluated as a trade-in and the guy was looking at it. He is like, oh, those are like deep scratches. I'm like, yeah, yeah, they're thanks. And then while we're are you talking about the one where, where my son pood his pants in, in the dealership? Yeah, bro, of course I'm talking about the Pooh in the pants in the dealership.

Cozy Snap: 1:53

That's my favorite

Alexander Coccia: 1:53

one.

Cozy Snap: 1:54

That's a classic. There's

Alexander Coccia: 1:54

so many stories, but like that's a

Cozy Snap: 1:55

classic. That's a good

Alexander Coccia: 1:56

callback.

Cozy Snap: 1:57

That's a coach, a classic man. For sure. No, I love it. Like any parent, if you, if you have kids, man, I tell you what guys like I, I remember going at Ben Broad, he had a, a Tesla, and I go in, I'm like, man, it's cool. Tesla man. And I like, look on the side. I'm like, bro, what, what happened? Like, what are you doing to this thing? Like, and he is like, bro, those are my kids. Like, those are they, they, they've a, they treat it like a, a, an army warn vehicle. I mean, it looks like it went through NAM and it's, it's it's just part of the job. It's part of being a dad. Right. But I I couldn't stop thinking about the story of you there anyway, man. But we have a cool man. We got Snapbacks coming out. This is gonna be a kind of a weird week.'cause what it's like half and half, right? So like the beginning of the week we've got the traditional spotlight system, and then I. You know what? If you don't update your game, you can keep it for a little bit and bam, we then have Snap Hacks officially coming to Marvel Snap. So we're gonna talk about today. Is that gonna be enough? What is that gonna look like? Alex, we know what we're talking about over here. What are we talking about on your side of the Snapchat?

Alexander Coccia: 2:49

Cozy on my side of Snapchat we're gonna be discussing Strange Supreme and whether or not it makes the cut to be the card you want to pull from the Cashs before the next set of snap packs come out or next set of snap packs. They're not here yet until the next week. We're also will be talking about the best cards in each individual snap pack to see what are the Chase cards you're gonna want to go after. And then as always, our Snapchat mailbag.

Cozy Snap: 3:11

Well buddy, we've been here before several times. We have a move card that comes out. We get. Slightly excited for the card actually. We get overly excited and then every time it does not live up, oh, usually does not live up to what it had what we thought the potential was. But you know what Hydro stomper you in particular, were pretty excited about this one in the, in the pre-evaluation. And I am, but I also am a bit hesitant about a couple things. Now, I will say that let's go break down the card, but I will say that there's some things I realized about the card that I like. Now even further looking into it. But we've got a three cost, two power car. Three cost is the name of the game typically for these move cards. Ongoing plus one power for each time. One of your cards moved this game. Hydro Stomper. Wanna talk about syns? Let's star ratings. What do you got?

Alexander Coccia: 3:58

You know what? I'm gonna stay at my 4.5. I know it's high. It's high. Yeah, I know. I'm really high compared to others. I might drop it to four. The only reason why I'm considering dropping it to four is because. I don't wanna talk synergies and stuff, but I wanna talk about a specific problem that I think Hydro Stomper has one very specific problem and it's at the best version right now of move a very highly competitive deck is move balance. And I don't think Hydro Stomper needs to be there. Like, I think there are cars that doesn't go in the best deck.

Cozy Snap: 4:26

Yeah. And there's, there's cars that are three costs. Like, just off the top of my head, there's cards that I would play and, and move, bounce, that you could get the bounce effect off. And have value there still as well. Like Sage or Sage or Yeah, Sage. Right, exactly. So like that. Agreed. I will say this, I wanna open with this, this is one thing I really like about Hydro Stomper, that at first, if you're not like, I don't know, just doing the math, the ongoing ability of it is super interesting.'cause I love for once we have this move card that could be played later on in the game. That to me is really interesting because, you know, so many times we have like Hercules. Mme. Webb, if you don't draw them, you're screwed. Or you have to get them out and then you have to do a bunch of stuff and then maybe you get the value. I do like that this thing has the value after the fact. Three two is a pretty low stat though, so like getting a lot, you know, even four moves, which is easily plausible. It is a three six, so it's not like it's gonna go like crazy over value, right? At times. But there are cards in different situations. You know, that you could definitely get things going crazy at times. I'm like, oh, it'd be cool man, if this was, any cards moved. Then that way it's like, all right, if you get the matchup and it's a little bit of a counter move card or whatever plenty to counter this thing. I think we see a lot of clog this week. I think we see a lot of things that can. Just kind of hurt. Move decks in general. Move decks do have a lot of weaknesses to them. That's one thing we know. I think we're seeing more and more that Snap is a game of counters at time. Right. And, and so we see that on new card weeks more than ever. But yeah man, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go middle of the pack. I think I'm gonna go just with that even three star. I think it has a lot of potential for it. I think there's a lot that can go against it though. And my worry always is, you know, we're long away from where vulture decks are like. Awesome. That mid range value, the tempo play, and I, I feel like it's not a so-on issue when like he was the three cost, but three is just, it is a tough bit of cost to fit in there. Like, I like this guy better as a two, one, I would've loved him as a two, one, I.

Alexander Coccia: 6:25

Yeah. So basically exactly what Goliath is. Yeah, I had that exact thought where like, if we want a moving scaler, a moving ongoing scaler, almost every single archetype has one. You have Mobius, you have Goliath would be the most recent example. Yep. And they have the two slot in common, whereas Hydros, Soper is a three. Now, the reason why I like, okay, so what I said like four or four and a half. The, the thing is, is like I definitely guarantee that this is gonna be a good individual card. Like individually, you're gonna see very high power outputs from hydro stomper. The number is gonna get very big, but the question is. Is that number getting big enough to warrant a new form of play style for move? Because move despite being good is never really meta relevant.'cause I, I just, it's just a play style that most people just don't want to engage with. Yeah. Remember we recently had nerfs to dagger. We had nerfs to the frika human torch shell, which is the balance move shell, which now is actually even using toxin thanks to the doc the toxin buff in the OTA which we'll talk about later, but like. Those decks and those high performing decks of which are generally high ELO decks, they don't want hydro stomper. And so you're gonna be leaning on decks that are very traditional. Like, okay, I hyd all, everything Hydro Stomper gets plus seven off one heimdall play or whatever it is. And then, you know, Hercules kick someone else. And like there's, there's synergistic cards and Hydro stomper is gonna be a stats machine, but. Is that enough for an archetype that generally has not really broken the ceiling of Marvel Snap's, kind of you know, just play rate. People just don't wanna play, move.

Cozy Snap: 7:57

Yeah. Well, like we talked about that how many times on the Snapchat we have things like move, bounce and whatnot that are in the meta and people still don't play them right because. Because of the complexity. I mean, Phoenix Force was a great example of that. Like, I think me and you you specifically a avoided Phoenix force for a long time, right?'cause you're like, I just don't wanna mess, I don't wanna go down that rabbit hole. I'd rather just play big card, big win. And you're right, it's a lot, you know, it, it's it, to put it in something like rivals terms. I think the best way to say it's like you could play Scarlet Witch that auto him and, and does, you know, good DPS or you could go with Spider-Man and learn complexity and crazy stuff and do a little bit better, right? So like the skill ceiling. I think is what the term is here for. Move X is very high and the reward is high if you can do the payoff. But a lot of people like more simplistic approaches. I do think that hydro stomper in traditional move will kind of make his way in there, move balance, not so much. I'm gonna be curious what he does on that front. You know, so there are some really cool vehicles to get him going. You know, I love, I love the idea of these cheap little one causes, plays like the, going back to even a Ron near Ghost Spider. And getting small buildups and not going for like the big home run play, you know, the human torch, that's a a billion power. The dagger that's like just the classic like, Hey, what happens if you iron fist a vulture? You get that going. You have good tempo play and you just kind of finish, you know what I mean? Like Professor X doesn't stop that anymore. You storm is a, is different like from the old days almost, right? Like what does that look like? I'm gonna be curious how that deck performs in this kind of environment that we're in.

Alexander Coccia: 9:26

No, absolutely. That is exactly where Hydro Stompers likely to shine. Right. And I, I guess what I wanna say is that like, even though I'm relatively high on the power of this card, I wanna be very clear when I see the hydro stompers like a four or four and a half, I think that that is its individual power level as a card being released to Marvel Snap. I. I'm not gonna say that you should go out and get it day one. Like that's not, because if you're not a move player or if the move shells that are using Hydro Stomp or you know you're missing Hercules, you're missing other cards, or you just don't wanna play that style of deck, then Hydro Stomper is not gonna go anywhere else. You know what I mean? And so like, it might be a really good card that's actually not worth getting because it is niche, but its archetype is like I can't think of the word. Polarizing maybe is the word. Yeah. Where there's people that play it and people that like it and people that just don't want to engage with it. It's like, like toxin for instance. Yeah. Like in the OTA recap will talk about, but like toxin, I don't even think needed a buff. Yeah. But he got it. Maybe it's like, hey, we just need to give this archetype something to get people back on it. And hydros stopper is an infusion of power to a very traditional style of move that just doesn't see play anymore. It almost reminds me of Star Brands release. Where Star Brand came out and was it going to resurrect Saron? And it didn't. But the problem wasn't Star brand, it was Saron. It was the archetype enabler that had to get changed. And now it's actually a top 10 deck. So with Hydro Stomper, I don't know if the stats or if Hydro stompers the problem for that shell, it might very well be that Irania needs a buffer. Mme. Webb needs something or you know what I mean? The supporting cast needs to help Hydros Stopper perform.

Cozy Snap: 11:03

Yeah, no, I agree. I think that that's gonna be the, the main thing to look. You know, look out for it. Is those kind of, we're, we're starting to see that way more. And I think when we started Snap in the early days, like we, we didn't really like identify that there's these like, key cards that really are the engine of these decks. And now it's obvious when they are. It's funny too, you brought up the OTA, I mean, dude on the OTA, you know, we'll talk about it. That's our next subject. We'll get to it, but it's like you look at scream, okay, you could tell that they tamed hair down a bit because of that potentially. And then you know, to your point too, they tamed a couple other cards that are gonna have some impact with Hydra. I wanna talk about one place that could be interesting with him that I'm not sure you brought it up last time. I thought it was a, a, a, a good take when we did start talking about him as a card. But also it's like, not just her, but the, the, the plethora of cards like her. I think it's interesting that we do have a chance that there's like a night crawler, Jeff Silk maybe maybe that's a control deck, maybe it's not. But like this idea of like just a bunch of value cards that can move. Plus this guy that can be slapped at the end because then it makes sense to have a three cost that you could play even on turn six.'cause you have all these other, you know, very low cost cars and all of a sudden you have silk jumping around, you have nine crawl go. You have so much movement happening and then you're playing down a hydros stopper that's maybe a 3 9, 3 8. That's a world where I think he could work in more of these plug and place dials.

Alexander Coccia: 12:22

Absolutely. And I think that one of the things that this OTA did very specifically in relation to Hydro Stomp, I know we're all over the, we're like merging the two topics a little bit. Yeah. But I think that scream is gonna be more targetable with Red Guardian. And so as a result, coming into this next week, if you're gonna be running a hydro stomp or silk deck, which I think is gonna be exactly where I'm going with

Cozy Snap: 12:40

it a hundred percent. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 12:41

You're gonna want to have red guardian in that shell because scream dogs comes down on turn two, you pump it with red guardian easy, right? Yeah. And then you get to do your moves.

Cozy Snap: 12:49

Playing the counter in the deck archetype is always like what you do, move one on, on release because you know people are gonna play it. And then you can also feast off a little bit. Obviously, you know, we, we spoke of Dale being the, the big time finisher. We've got the kind of movers deck. We have a bounce deck that we don't think it'll fit in, but that's definitely a home that it can be played in. We have cards that I don't think are gonna ultimately end up being in there. Like the werewolf by nights I think is a very cool concept. You got two threes. I, you know, maybe I, but again, you could play'em late. So it's like, okay, that's kind of a cool, a cool aspect and there's plenty of low on reveals. I mean they tone down cats in America, Falcon you know, but it's, you know, you've got that shield that could get a little bit movement going right off the bat as well. There's a lot of ways to get some movement going. Not to mention locations too, just being this guy's, you know, really ally. So again, I like hydro Stomper. I think he's got a lot of cool things. I. It's a, it's a, it's funny that he's coming out on the week of snap packs. Right. You know, we'll talk about that a a bit more as well. But any, anything else here on, on hydros? Stuper you wanna highlight?

Alexander Coccia: 13:51

Yeah, I'll say that like cards like Jeff and vision, like traditional good cards. I haven't seen much play might benefit here. It's also worth noting that Captain Marvel, I wonder how this interaction will work if she moves at the end of the game. Does it actually plus one hydros Soper still, even though the, the game has ended? And will it actually account for the plus one on hydros Soper in the victory kind of calculation? You know what I mean? I think that's kind of notable. It's also worth noting that it's very good with the spotlight cash keys. Cards, sorry. In Irania and Mme. Webb are both the spotlight caches and I believe you will have 48 h 48 hours before you're forced to update your client to the Snap Pack model. I think that's the intention of second dinner. I don't know if it's been officially communicated yet, but just a heads up, if you want to use your spotlight keys to get hydro Soper, I think you have 48 hours to do so before you are forced to update your client. So that's something you can keep an eye out for. But overall, like I, I think this is gonna be a good card. I just wonder if. The archetype is gonna be able to kind of rise.

Cozy Snap: 14:49

You've got Mme. Webb, you've got Hercules. You have these like bit more of like investment for greedy power in a sense of like mega valuing the the hydros stopper. You know, we're gonna see a little bit of that. Who is, who is more likely to make the cut, Madam or Hercules.

Alexander Coccia: 15:05

You know what Hercules, the nice thing about the hydro stompers,'cause it's ongoing, Hercules comes down on three that then activates your moves throughout the game and you can close, well even on turn five for instance, you can play your hydro stomper and get the ongoing power then ol into whatever that Hercules kind of resets everyone. Hercules is, randomness is kind of weird. I can see Hercules kind of being the play on three

Cozy Snap: 15:26

I. So that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, there's a world, you start looking at some of these interactions, like let's, I, we're gonna call it ease, but let's say one is like night crawler. Okay? Two, you've got silk, you play Hercules on silk. Okay? So silk moves once. Then you just try to do as much movement as you can between silk, Hercules and whatever else you have. Your sleeve here, right? Whether that's, you know, vulture and activated cards or this is more of your traditional deck. You would have to think with Hercules, with silk, with let's say night crawler and hercule, like, I think that hydro stopper could get to some pretty serious power. Like, like if that curves out the right way. I like it because, you know, the thing that's bad about Hercules is you don't know where he is gonna end up putting the cards or whatever. Well, cool. At the end of the game, you have this masked up. Three 10, whatever, and then you can have that as your wing condition on the on the lane that you need it.

Alexander Coccia: 16:17

You know what's funny to think about though? Like vulture's a three cost vulture gets really big. So is hydro Soper really chasing power or is it chasing the fact that you can play that power late whereas vulture can't? Because I think Vulture will outperform hydros. Stuper power wise, right? For sure. For

Cozy Snap: 16:33

sure. Three, nine, then goes to three. Yep. Hmm. Interesting. I think it's definitely, that makes me wonder. It's, it's the fact that it's ongoing. Like, dude, if Vulture was an ongoing card, like, hello, goodnight. Like, it, the, it it is. That is a good point. It is. It's not that you're tracing power, it's that you could place power later. And I, I think that's pretty advantageous for it. I mean, and, and dude, how, how do we not talk about it? Like the, I'm telling you man, the hy note please, that you can get off with this card. This is where you can obviously have to play'em earlier, but man, you go like hydro stomper and, and, and dagger on turn five, bro, that's a, that's a big chunk of cheese coming down. That's a lot of power.

Alexander Coccia: 17:09

It's a great variant, by the way. I know that's not what you want me to comment on. No, but this is a great variant.

Cozy Snap: 17:14

I appreciate it. I do. This is, yeah, this was one of those cards that I bought. And I was like, you know what, it was like a hundred dollars bank or whatever, God. And I was like, yeah, it's never coming back. And I, I wanna be one of the only ones with this hydell. And then they, then they did the whole collection collector's vault stuff. Anyway. Yeah. So I, I, I think I don't wanna undermine Hydell finally having like a really cool combo play that we've more or less been waiting for. I mean, yeah, vulture all that can do that, but I just feel like he, he's cool'cause he can hold down yet another lane that you can set up early.

Alexander Coccia: 17:47

But it is still tricky with this like hyd doll move play. It's like it's high, it's hard to put power, right? Yeah. Like, it's like, you know what I mean? And that's kind of the tricky thing. Like maybe Hercules can displace something, but, and it's really hard to do that time doll itself. Yeah. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 17:59

Like that's the thing, it's like the so on plate, they're all three vulture. Hi Hercules. Hydros. Stuper. If a hydros Stuper was two, oh, it would be so perfect, man. I would love it. I'm

Alexander Coccia: 18:07

sorry bro. But does the rost only go left? Like I don't get it.

Cozy Snap: 18:10

I guess so, bro. I guess, yeah, I guess. I guess like, you know, he's a God, but he doesn't, he did, he does. Just doesn't know how to go. Right. I I It's a bummer. Yeah. And we all know who's definitely not gonna get play with hydro Stomper coming out 2099. I just wanted to bring him up.

Alexander Coccia: 18:26

Yeah. I mean, it's nice to bring him up every once in a while. We kind of forget that he exists. Just

Cozy Snap: 18:30

remind us that he's in the game. Yeah. Than that looking around really not that many other cards that you'd want to go ahead and get'em in there. I do want to give my. My monthly yearly, Dr. Strange needs to be better in this game. Shout out to second dinner. Just wanna, just wanna pop that in there real quick if I can. Anything else to close out? Are you ready to move on? My God,

Alexander Coccia: 18:51

I'm ready to move on. I mean, we've been borderline talking about the OTA recap the entire time. Yeah. Somehow

Cozy Snap: 18:56

let's go in and talk about the O Ts. So guys, OTA, Alex and I, yet again. We called some changes. We expected some changes. Now some of these aren't so bold. We had a feeling my friend, that. Captain Carter would so we knew an adjustment was gonna happen to Captain Carter. We knew she was way too bad. Like there's one certainty in life, death taxes, and if a seasoned card a seasoned pass card's not good, they're going to buffet, they're gonna buffet soon. Infinity de Ultron, we knew that was gonna happen. We also called the Nerf to Sam Wilson, but we just thought that power wasn't gonna be a big enough difference, but they did go that route. So Captain Carter, four, three to three, two, we could start there. Clear winner. I mean, like that, that is the most obvious winner that you get in terms of where you could play her, the value that you could play her, the way she works. Like this was an OTA that buffed like 10 things for the card, even though it was just one cost down two power.

Alexander Coccia: 19:46

Yeah, it, it was one of those things like quite simply when we were going into the season, it was hard to establish how hard the macro consideration of Agent Carter was, or Captain Carter, I should say. Sorry, like is it, was it gonna be hard to set up the board position as it was how you had dumb dumb dug in as well, which was gonna come and again, it was another card. We have another card coming out in the future, which we'll talk about next week. Right. Which is all focused on like. You know, where you are on the field to play. And it was more than maybe the anticipated, that macro consideration was more, it was a little more awkward to set it up and it makes all sense. It goes to a three cost and is it, is it, it's it's a better card, but it's still like not insane. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because it relies on its power to be impactful and naturally in Silver Surfer it's really good, but you'd hope it can, you know, get beyond just silver Surfer.

Cozy Snap: 20:34

Do you want more or less of these, like playing for the back line frontline kind of stuff?

Alexander Coccia: 20:39

I don't love it. I don't love any, I don't think it's like a great design. Like it's fine. It's, it's okay. It's not like insulting or anything, but it's kind. I don't love it. No.

Cozy Snap: 20:46

Isn't it funny whether it be movies, video games, whatever, that like, original designs are always peak and then they try to add stuff and usually like, eh, I like the old stuff. Like we looked at Activate that way. We've looked at, you know, this, this new mechanic. It's like, well just gimme, gimme the Good Old fashioned on Reveal ongoing. Like that's what stands the test of time. I actually saw a Captain Carter remade. In oblivion. Remaster. I have to say, bro, as gamers this last week, we feasted. Tell me Alex, that you, you walked the planes of Ariel and of o of oblivion.

Alexander Coccia: 21:20

I did as soon as it was announced. It was such a great shadow drop too. What I did was I made my character What elf, what? El Thief.

Cozy Snap: 21:26

I, dude, I knew you were gonna be a what Elf you. You have what? Elf written all over you. Can I tell you something though? I'm usually a what? Elf. Okay. Here's the thing, bro. I ban myself from picking dark elf. What? Elf and Britain, those are the three I typically pick. I, I, I, I pay myself. I always pick a

Alexander Coccia: 21:40

Bri mage. I've always been a Bri mage. I decide to change it up and go, what else? This time

Cozy Snap: 21:44

I like, bro, I, okay. So I went, I went high elf, man. I went, if you guys don't know oblivion, first of all, download the game is incredible. Get lost in the sauce. It, it's, to me, I think core staple. The elder scroll series have always been the most as a hobby. Video games has, has always been a way for me to escape reality and reset right before it was my job. I, that has been recaptured, bro. I was trying to explain this to my wife, how I. Living nostalgia through a game and through a moment of a game is one of the most like insane things that we get to do as gamers. Like something will happen in oblivion and it'll put me back in the past of when I played it when I was younger and it's, it's from the music to maybe even dialogue. Like it's so cool. The music. Hmm.

Alexander Coccia: 22:26

Oh, I could, the music brought me back in time. Like that opening sequence with the camera pans around the city and stuff. And the music is, is so incredible. The voice lines were coming back to me as well, and Todd will bring you back in time. You know what it did for me, it brought me back to the time where like, I remember having oblivion on my pc. I. I remember going to like nexus mods and stuff and trying to get like texture packs and like, oh yeah, HDR Bloom packs and like modding the game like crazy. I had the game was like a four gig install, but I had like 300 gigs of add-ons,

Cozy Snap: 22:55

bro. They had Patrick Stewart, I mean like how, who else can you ask for? There's a documentary, bro. It's from 2005, so go back and, and watch it. It's on YouTube. It's the Making of Oblivion and it was just so cool to see. Bro. I feel like they just don't make games like they used to. Man, I, maybe that's a boomer take kind of thing, but I just, I feel like. The love and care and, and, and the way that it, it's been pro, I mean, Starfield say what it is, it wasn't Elder Scrolls, but all I know is man, they nailed a remaster. It was so, it, there's nothing quite like, like more wind was my childhood and then this even more so. But yeah, dude, I haven't gotten far. You know what else I realized is how much time you have as a kid. Like I used to blow through this. I would, I would complete the Thieves Guild in one run and now I'm like, alright, I'm gonna go on one cave mission. Get distracted and there's two hours and I'm done.

Alexander Coccia: 23:42

Took me three days to get out of the sewers, man. And then once I got out the sewers, instead of doing the mission, I did what I always do. I just like, I'm like, I'm gonna find something. Oh yeah. And go in it like, so I just ran and like found like something went down lake. You go to the sewer, what's called,

Cozy Snap: 23:55

you go in that sewer by the lake. Yeah, yeah. Oh, of course man. You gotta go in there. Of course you gotta go. I went in, no, dude, I, I started out, there's a ma I went to the. The, the Arc made the guild in Imperial City and she was like, Hey, go, go, go to this. She's like, go to this cave for me. I have one thing to go. And I go there and it's like, you need to go to 12 Bandit camp. I'm like 12. Like, like it goes. That's the best part though, man. You sit on one thing and it's just like a, a, a chain of reactions. But yeah, I started the Fighter's Guild. That's where I'm at. I'm like four hours in, but it's. Oh, oh. It just, it hits, man. Nice, nice. It hits hard.

Alexander Coccia: 24:25

Yeah. The only, I I, I've noticed like some hitching and like some like technical stuff a little bit. Which, yeah, a little bit. Right. But I, it's still fantastic. It's like, it's a really interesting, like, it's super nostalgic, but like, I dunno if you saw it talking about like, random games and stuff. Expedition 33. Yeah. If you're talking about a game that like is made with heart and soul. Oh yeah. I'm only about two hours into it. But like Chef's Kiss. Oh yeah. And this is the type of game, like that combat, like JRPG term base system. It's a, it's a type of like game that I have not traditionally engaged with. That is not my, my style. Oh, I love, that's my, that's my jam. Right? Like I've never even played a final fantasy. Like I just haven't was mine, you know, exact Oh yeah. Fire balloon's. An example of a game. I did play like three hose. Like I absolutely loved it. Maybe'cause I'm a teacher, I don't know. But what I will tell you though is that like Expedition 33 right now, and I'm still early in it, talk about labor of love. Yeah. Like I'm telling you, it, it actually like. People put their heart and souls into it.

Cozy Snap: 25:16

Did you think, did you see anything, I dunno how we're, we're, we're deep now, but did you see anything, a marathon? What, what were your thoughts on the bungees new game? It looks I'm not crazy about it.

Alexander Coccia: 25:24

I think it looks kind of interesting. My buddy who like is a huge bungee fan, he's like, you have to watch the, the CGI movie companion that came up with it. And he linked it to me and I haven't yet watched it, but apparently it's like, like an amazing, incredible CG like kind of story thing. Akin to like, do you remember the original Overwatch shorts? Oh yeah. Like even the original Overwatch trailer. I remember watching like Pixar Man, when when Tracer comes in with wins in the museum. Yeah, in the museum. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 25:53

Yeah. Doom, physics, gaunt and everything. It's kinda

Alexander Coccia: 25:54

reminiscent of that, I think. Okay.

Cozy Snap: 25:56

Yeah, I feel, I just feel like they kinda left Destiny too, and I thought, you know, maybe they were gonna do something big and bold and it, it's, to me it's, it's a risk and. You know, it's a competitive market. I'd be surprised if it they have, yeah. There's some things I wasn't crazy about, but I'm, I'm, it's alpha, you know what it is though? I keep hearing it's alpha. It's alpha. But I remember playing Rivals Alpha. Do you remember this? We played this and we're like, dude, this game's done like this. Game's already. Yeah, it's already peaked. Like it's already great. And I think Alpha these days don't mean what it did back in the day a little bit more. And then, dude, they, you didn't play this game, but they released this game. Dragon Wilds. It's like scape, but Val Heim. Have you played Val Heim? Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 26:31

Yeah. Yeah. I played Heim like on release. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, I think I, I made content for it real Was was like actual YouTube videos about Heim. I actually YouTube gaming's Twitter retweeted one of my videos.'cause I had like figured out a way to like get like console like hacks and stuff. Into Heim and they retweeted it. For those that,

Cozy Snap: 26:51

those that don't know, I'm a die. I'm a diehard OSRS fan. Anyone out there, lemme know your stats. I'll love you forever since I was a child. So this game hit every, it, it, it's got some tweaking to do. Its early release. Kinda like heim when it came out. It's like, or ark. Did you ever play ark that the caveman dinosaur won?

Alexander Coccia: 27:07

Oh, yes, I know which one you're talking about. Way bad. So I did play that game, but the UI was so bad. It's it, I can't do this. I can't, it must be the worst UI I've ever had. But it was so new. I'm like, I literally cannot play this game.

Cozy Snap: 27:18

The idea of it was so new, it was like Minecraft almost in its own sense. But like, with dinosaurs? With dinosaurs speaking of I don't, I was gonna say, we just gotta move on. Anyway, yeah. There's just so much gamer love this week. It was like incredible and somehow I still managed to play Snap in a, in a hell of a lot of rivals. But,

Alexander Coccia: 27:33

anyway, buddy, all this was in the OTA notes, by the way, in case you're curious, all of it packed

Cozy Snap: 27:36

in there. Thank you, Glen, for tucking that in there as well, buddy. I hit up Glen this week and I was like, Hey Glen, I've been playing more magic. I just want you to know. And he was like, oh. I was like, yeah, I just thought I would tell you also if you ever wanna play but and Alex, I, yeah, we're we, we, we plan on playing some more ourselves, but yeah. Snap. Oh yeah. That, that's what we're talking about. So yeah, infinity Old going 5, 6, 5 8. We were talking about it, that win rate, it went from what, like 44%? Where is it at now?

Alexander Coccia: 28:03

Like 46, it didn't end up moving the needle much. I'm still surprised the Silver Surfer looks like one of the best places for it of all places, right? Like that still shocks me and you, you made that call. It's unfortunate the cart as a whole isn't landing on its feet, but it's surprisingly capable in Silver Surfer. But but yeah, unfortunately it just wasn't enough for 50 D Altron. I think you're gonna have to see. The stones can't be an RNG festival where it's like you can't have two stones that are garbage. Like it just can't Every, no matter what variation of the stones you get, you should be able to close up the game. Agree. And I think that's what Infiniti Ultra needs. So like the move stone and the oh, you get plus two power for all the locations filled garbage, change them. They have to be worth pulling. It's not simple.

Cozy Snap: 28:43

Yeah. Agreed man. Also, I thought it was crazy. Remember I brought up Penny Parker and I'm like, I would like to see her get a PowerPoint. Dude, remember this random one off that I said, and you're like, I think she's fine now. I was, I was surprised that they actually ended up giving her a little

Alexander Coccia: 28:55

love. I've actually been playing lots of Penny Parker. She's been ma making a bunch of my decks because I think I've been, I don't know why, I think I've fallen in love with Wcan over the last little while. I've been playing a lot of like wcan ramp type shells and Penny Parker's a nice fallback to that. You do have the consistent curve which, you know, you can also ramp into five costs if you want, but yeah, like, I actually was super surprised to see. But Penny getting buffed everywhere. Getting buffed in rivals, getting buffed in Snap. It's. Kind of wild. Then we got the rhino, which I wanna say we called as well. Why cozy? Why do you think we called it? What was the thumbnail image of the last sucked? Were they fine? I telling you,

Cozy Snap: 29:26

they just find these cards suck and they're like, all right, put it in rotation. You know what the, the, the title of this, this, I, I, I suppose it should have opened with this, but OTA recap, a step in the Right Direction. Me and Alex called out last OTA. It was boring. The, the one power difference is not enough. We need to see more. And I will say this, whether I like some of these changes or I don't, they definitely took a bit more risks and I like that. I like the idea of giving cards a different identity. And so Captain Carter, we saw that. And then most definitely here, RiNo. Now Alex and I both agree on one thing. We were talking before three, three up to three six, honor reveal at a rock to your side of this location. Hey man, like I think, I think it's a cool redesign, but I, we both agreed. Ruins should still be a thing with this thing I like probably would be too, I guess strong, but would it really? I don't think so.

Alexander Coccia: 30:15

I don't know why. And I, I'd be curious to know why they decided to actively remove that, because it would've seemed like more work. You already had it programmed, the cart already did it anyways, so why remove it? I would've liked to have seen like three, five at a rock. Still destroyed the location. Yeah. And you could've made it. So once you destroyed the rock just popped out of the location you destroyed, it would've been perfect. I don't know why they changed it this way, and but hey, I don't care. I mean, the card is obviously a three six powerhouse. You don't necessarily want the rock, but there is a card that maybe we'll talk about on my side that really likes it.

Cozy Snap: 30:45

There's a couple cards too that consider JE the Rock. So like, it at least it's like, I don't know, I think it's a, it's a, it's a pretty cool, just big beefy body that you could play and it, it definitely gives them way more purpose and way more, just way, way more playability. Fastest. Got his 15th buff. Three, three to three four. He's getting into that. Okay, so human tortured rivals got like a buff and a buff and a buff. And finally people went from F two to S two and you're like, wait a second. This guy's cracked.'cause he got like nine buffs. Vatos is creeping towards pretty good, like going from that three, three now to a three four. That also, even though RNG filled now is gonna continue to add way more value than just that. If you think of him in a staff perspective, he's not bad.

Alexander Coccia: 31:24

FAOs is pretty solid. I think so. And he has been for a while. I think what the problem with FAOs is, it's like, it's like turn three or die with him a little bit. Mm-hmm. And I think his stats needed to reflect that the randomness of his ability is not great either. And I think, is it one of those things where the one drops, I can't remember.'cause I do play FAOs, but I've not played because I've been playing him in surfer, but I don't play like Nova or anything in surfer right now. If you hit a one costed card with the it, it can't go to zero. Can it? I don't remember. I gotta think. I don't think so. I don't think it can. Right, so FAOs can like ruin or like waste buffs on cards you're drawing because if you can't do a negative one on a one cost, right?

Cozy Snap: 32:01

Yeah. Yeah. I believe so. Can it? No, I don't think it can, bro. I feel like it can't, I feel like it can't.

Alexander Coccia: 32:06

I've only been playing him in like in a, like an eternal surfer with macari and stuff with no one drops. I'd be curious about that, but I do know that there's some awkwardness about that. Like RG side of his effect, right?

Cozy Snap: 32:16

Yeah, for sure. But you play him on curve, man, you immediately have pretty good value depending on what you did hit and you can design things around it, right? So I like what they did with him. We talked about toxin, we talked about Sam Wilson. Getting a bit of a tame down as well. We've now seen a couple season pass cards. Get some tame in some direction. Captain Carter, they'll going the right way. Sam and Iron Patriot going the wrong way. We're gonna close this Snapchat with our last subject Snap packs. Are they enough? We have them coming out this week. We're gonna talk about them more in detail. Alex's side but we have not talked about them a lot over here. Alex Snap packs coming out now. We've kind of stated this a couple times. I think these are gonna be really good for maintaining the current player base. I think that's a very important thing, but it is gonna come down to marketing and making sure that the players know this and they've teased it. They've teased. I believe that they're gonna do something upon release with the snap packs. Like whether it be like I. People are gonna get tokens for a new card, whatever it might be. We don't know exactly, but I think they need a little sizzle, a little sauce to go alongside this update to get people, you know, to, to, to re-download, you know, spin the wheel of opportunity and try to get themselves a, a, a new card to play with and, and see how this new acquisition works.

Alexander Coccia: 33:30

I agree. And I think that with Snap they need to bring the old players back obviously, and they need to keep the existing players. Snap is on a bit of a decline numbers wise, but with that being said, it's still doing remarkably well. I think that we were spoiled with a game that literally took the world over. Yeah. In, in December or whenever, sorry, in like when it had come on originally. I remember December with the game awards and everything, it winning it was absolutely peak and the game deserved it too. Like it was incredible. And then what happened is, is like. The monetization started clawing at us and hooking us a little bit. I remember we had a Snapchat conversation. We're like, we want to give you money. Give us a reason to give you money, like we wanna support this game. And then they took that and they ran too far in the opposite direction with it to some degree. And so I do think that that Snap Hacks has to be, I. A correction of that system. And I will tell you that based off of my interactions with the development team, which admittedly are a bit limited I believe that they do have intentions of making this a much better system. They didn't go into this saying like, oh, let's make a system that just kind of like is more of like a, like a facade of what people think they want, but let's still just like. Grab money outta them and make the acquisition impossible. I think they went into this recognizing that this was a major pain point for players and they wanted to make it better. They wanted to make the card acquisition better and they want to make the overall player experience more positive. Yeah. Even if potentially it comes at slightly less revenue, which honestly it might be the hard decision to make, but probably the correct one. So I'm hoping that they deliver on it cozy.'cause I think the game needs it.

Cozy Snap: 34:59

Yeah, so here's the good news, and, and this is what I, I, I agree with what you said. You know, snap is, I think, at a good place right now. I do think it is enough. The biggest thing that drives Marvel Snap is that first word, Marvel. Marvel Strikeforce is a game that was out, been out for a long time, and it has a lot of staying power as well, because the cool thing about Marvel is it's been timeless, right? And, and with, you know, we have probably hit the lowest that Marvel has been in by far, in a very long time. You know, especially since the turn of the millennia, but. I feel like we've got Fantastic four Thunderbolts earlier reviews coming in Best movie since Endgame has been the, the reviews on it. Okay. Really? Okay. That's nice.

Alexander Coccia: 35:39

cause it looks awesome.

Cozy Snap: 35:40

Yeah, it does. It looks great. And then you've got you've got a interest doomsday coming out, so you've got some big hitters. And I can tell you certainly this happened when Star Wars took a hiatus and even though it wasn't craziest about the, the newest movies coming out, whenever I saw it, I'm like, man, I gotta, I gotta dive deep back into the world of Star Wars, man. I'm hooked. Like I. Gimme some Darth Vader right into the veins. And, and so when you have these movies that do this, you have rivals you know you look at terms like the Ms. Frost, you know, depending on the reasons, but it doesn't matter 7,000 x percent higher than it was for its whole lifetime, right? So things go on the boom and, and when you have Snap at a great game at its core. You've got now this coming into it, it welcomes people back. But, you know, come have some fun play, you know, with your favorite Marvel heroes and, and have a good time doing it. So it's got limitless potential there. I think Ben said he wanted to make a card game and he, he said, no one wants to play with laser face. I can tell you if they had a game with no IP and it was laser face and it boomed'cause it was super fun, it would be dead because they, you don't have that kind of, that reach to the ip. And so I think that's so important for the game. And so keeping it eco-friendly, keeping the player base happy. All those things are so important and I think this does set up Snap moving forward in the right direction pretty well.

Alexander Coccia: 36:55

Yeah, and I think one of the challenges like the game has is that like, it's just the overall monetization model of like car games and CCGs the traditional way that they've always made money. They tried to kind of iterate on that with the collection track, which is honestly, it's, it feels like a dinosaur at this point. Like it feels like it doesn't really serve its true purpose anymore. Tons of filler boosters are still in there. I don't even know why. 50 credits is barely even a reward As you're going through a track that you're spending credits to get through anyway, you're really just going for those caches and you're going for the keys and there's just all filler in between. Right? But like if you think about like Marvel Rivals is another great example game we both play. When you install Marvel rivals for the first time, it doesn't matter what the Met is, you can play Rocket. If you wanna play strategist, if Magneto's the top Vanguard, you can pick Magneto. If Magneto's the best card in Marvel Snap and you just started playing, you don't have Magneto in your collection. If Penny Parker gets buffed in rivals and it's the meta vanguard, right? You can't just go into Marvel, snap and play Penny Parker. It just, the, the, the game doesn't work that way. The monetization doesn't work that way. And something tells me that Rivals is making a lot of money.'cause it sells, you know, skins and stuff like that. It sells season passes and, but the problem with these collectible card games is the card acquisition model is the primary way that these games make their money. And so they put up these roadblocks that don't exist in Overwatch and rivals and other stuff. Right. But then again, we don't have those energy timers that piss me off in other mobile games we play. So I wonder if it's kind of a, a symptom of the. Of the genre that Marvel Snap Bit. It's always been a mobile game. First Bit can figure it out.

Cozy Snap: 38:33

It's always been a mobile game first. I think we, like way back when we kind of hoped when PC came out, we're like, oh, this is just the beginning. Is this gonna, you know, and then we realized, oh, like, okay. It is like this is kind of what we're getting. And what they aim for when making it right. And that goes well beyond the player base when they pitch it to funder, whatever. Right. But I will say, yeah, I think, I think. For what it is, you know, in, in the genre. It is, it's definitely doing just fine. I would say going back to what I've beaten a dead horse at this point, like marketing, I think the easiest way to do it, and I've talked to another creator I. That, I don't want to go into a lot of detail, but they have left a game per se, or they haven't been playing it so much and that team still reaches out to'em on a regular, like, Hey, can we do anything for you? How are you And the team currently on Snap has never talked to this person. And so it, to me, the easiest way to get marketing is to look at people that pour their blood, sweat, tears and, and, and time into. Right. And that is your, your creators. And I, I would like to see a much different front on that. I think they do a pretty good job that gets by, but it. You know, we we're gonna keep, keep bringing it up. Now, you know, we're almost, you know, heading to three years since the, the, the, that's crazy, man. This game, this game for the first time. About three years ago, getting, getting right next to that date. That's so crazy now to think about that. This year's flown by already. But yeah, man loving to see it and and excited for the, the future. If you guys wanna know, by the way, no videos this week for me. No, OTA I had a couple things come up that I had to address. I. One of which a good friend Mr. Dexter said on, on, on Twitter, he gotten a wreck, wanted to be there for him, help him out. Happened right at the OTA, if you're wondering where that video was that's where it was. Never, never coming out.

Alexander Coccia: 40:15

Cozy. I got a question for you, a very important one. I've actually been waiting almost five days for this moment, this Snapchat moment, because Cozy, my wife and I completed Daredevils season two. And believe it or not, she liked it and she's like, yeah, we can watch the next part. Like, that's great. I'm like, well, hold on. I said, hold on, wifey. I said, we can't. We can't yet because I don't know if we're supposed to watch season three next, because I believe you had mentioned that after season two of Daredevil, the show actually went on a bit of a different path. Like it's one of those shows that like now the story continues in another show. I think it might be Jessica Jones or something like that. There's a lot. So I actually need a breakdown of what I'm supposed to watch next because we're waiting,

Cozy Snap: 40:56

it's hard to explain. Like you could kind of like, it's like if you, now it's not this much of an impact, right? But like, let's say like, you know, you have a fresh new girlfriend and an Infinity War just came out and they've never seen a Marvel movie. And they're like, can I go? And you're like, you'll like the movie. Like it'll be a good movie to you, but to you, you're like, ah, oh, ah. I know them. It's like just payoff after payoff. Yeah. Yeah, right. So it's got a little bit of that to it. I will always stand by Inception should come next. It's just a two hour movie, two episodes, put'em on. Pause, watch inception, then we can talk. Or shutter Shutter Island. I think Shutter Island will blow your mind.

Alexander Coccia: 41:33

Okay, so Shutter Island or Inception are either of them scary?

Cozy Snap: 41:37

Shutter Island has disturbing. Sequences, but my wife is the biggest potato when it comes to being scared. I don't know why I picked potato, but I'm gonna pick that. I'll pick a skinnier veg carrot when it comes to like scary movies. And she could do it just fine. I think there's a couple disturbing things, but trust me, you'll finish Shutter Island and you'll want to watch it again.

Alexander Coccia: 41:59

Is that the one with Tom Hanks on the, on the island when he's kind of abandoned and he's talking to the Rock?

Cozy Snap: 42:03

No, no, no, no. No, that's Wilson. Wilson. No, that's just the name of the volleyball. That's what? Wow. Cawood?

Alexander Coccia: 42:11

No. Okay, so it's not shorter. I, I don't know why I was thinking about Tom Hanks and Turner Island is Leonardo

Cozy Snap: 42:16

Le Leonardo DiCaprio. Which, if I say that actor, who's the f What's the first movie you think of then? I know it Titanic. Titanic. Did you have the Vs. The VHS one and two.

Alexander Coccia: 42:26

Obviously I did. Of course I did. You did. I remember very vividly being in the theater to watch Titanic and there was like a lot of buzz about people watching Titanic, like 30, 40 times. I remember sitting in there, I think it was with my sister, oh boy. And. I remember I, I, dude, I was like super young at the time. She's 12 years older than me. So like the only way I get to go to the movies is if my older sister took me and my brother. But anyways, I remember sitting there and the guy walked in and like, he was just an employee. He's like, just so you guys know, this movie's like almost three hours long and there's lots of water. So go to the bathroom now. Thanks. And he walked out. I just know, I don't know why court stuck out to me. Yeah, it's like a core memory unlocked. Dude, I have to this, this dude walking out to tell me this.

Cozy Snap: 43:05

This always cracks me up, okay? I grew up in the south, right? So Bible belts a little bit of America, and yo, I could watch Braveheart. I could watch guys getting their heads chopped off. I could watch the gore. You name it. You name, you name the crime. I could watch it, but God forbid if a nipple showed up on screen, the movie shut down. It's done. We're turning it off movie night's over. And I, I always crack up at that.'cause as a kid you could just, you could, well it sounds to me, did you, you did not. There's no way you grew up in a strict household. I feel like you didn't.

Alexander Coccia: 43:40

I'm both, my parents are right off the boat. Italians. I lived in the strictest household of imaginable. So you know what I'm talking about then. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about, buddy. I just told you the only way I was gonna get to go to a movie was am I glitching?

Cozy Snap: 43:53

I think you're good. If you were watching live, Alex was doing a little twitching, but I think he's, he's back. The only, yeah, but, well, exactly. But that, do you know what I'm talking about? You're like, you're watching a movie. It could have cuss, it could have f-word, it could have head chop up a little bit. Newie in the, in the game. Like, I'm pretty sure we had a bonfire for VH test. VHS tape number one. What to,

Alexander Coccia: 44:12

what I would say was a tasteful. Oh, you're talking about it's a Titanic.

Cozy Snap: 44:16

Yes. What I would say a drama moment, a tasteful art scene.

Alexander Coccia: 44:19

That was not tasteful. They knew what they were doing.

Cozy Snap: 44:22

You know what, all I'm saying is I can watch people jump off the boat of the Titanic. Little Timmy doesn't matter, but the, some art,

Alexander Coccia: 44:29

little Timmy was on the boat. He was getting off there. Women and children first. Cozy. Come on. Now.

Cozy Snap: 44:35

My message is just blowing by, you know, I, I just. You were never the kid. You, you know, you're watching and, and every single time, every single time you're watching the movie Mom doesn't come in the whole time. And then there happened to be like a scene with cleavage mom busting the door and like, dang it, of course this one scene is when they come in

Alexander Coccia: 44:50

that you never experienced that. But I just remember being like a, like my wife and I, like we, we started dating in, in high school and I remember like we'd walk to a nearby blockbuster and we'd pick movies and stuff. We would always watch them in the family room where like, my dad is literally cooking like, like my dad would like cook dinner. He was a chef. He'd cook dinner and then he would just like continue cooking throughout the night for some reason. And so like my dad was in like visible distance, we're watching the movie and of course as soon as anything even suspect happened, he'd walk around the corner and I'm like, ah, right. He looked like, he's like, what are you watching here, buddy? I don't know.

Cozy Snap: 45:26

Did you have the blanket? Did you guys wear, did you guys have a blanket on two? The blanket was only suspect. As soon as I got a girlfriend,

Alexander Coccia: 45:32

they burned

Cozy Snap: 45:32

all the blankets. Yeah. The blankets are suspect. The, the blankets are the first to go. You have 19 blankets, you get a girlfriend, you got zero. It's like, where'd all the blankets go? That's like straight. I got

Alexander Coccia: 45:40

a girlfriend, I walked upstairs. I'm like, why is my bedroom door gone? Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 45:43

Right. Why? Why is there? Yeah. Why is there a chastity belt on my bed? Dad? Like, what? What happened here? Well anyway, speaking of chassis belts, let's talk about. Strange, supreme high quality transition there. The, the chassis bout of Marvel, snap. What what were your thoughts? Man of, of strange, other than it was great.

Alexander Coccia: 46:02

So first of all, I'm actually still confused as to what order I'm supposed to watch the Marvel stuff in now. So someone in the comments, please, I need a complete breakdown of you watch the Titan of what I'm supposed to watch next,

Cozy Snap: 46:11

then VHS one only then you watch. Then after the tattoo, I, I just,

Alexander Coccia: 46:15

is it defenders? I thought it was defenders. Someone just tell me. But in terms of strange Supreme, who by the way cozy, I had requested that you had written Suck Supreme on the thing and you did not write suck Supreme. I didn't. I didn't write supreme sock would've been acceptable as well. I gotta tell you, I almost got to monetize both on Twitch and on YouTube at the same time, recording that call. I had people begging me, they're like, Alex, I'm listening to you at work. Please stop saying that, that strange, supreme sucked the demon. Like, it's like, it's just, it's not translating well. You know? Yes, we know. He sucked the monster. Alex, like, you don't need to keep saying it. I was, oh man. When I tell you I had fun, like I was laughing at myself recording. Oh. Like it was stupid. It's the bolts of bolt sides all over again. I need, you need, yeah, exactly. It was bolts of sack all over again. So anyways, I hope that sucks. Supreme sticks. I, that's my favorite one. But I. This is crazy. I love the card. I tell you I love it. I think it's worth getting. I think that if you don't get it, I don't think you're necessarily gonna like regret it, but this is a great card. I love it. And yet statistically it's not doing great and I disagree. I'm like, Nope, I disagree. It's running a flat 50%, like dead on post, infinite, straight up, 50% win rate at a 33% popularity. People got this card and it's only running a flat 50%. I think there's a lot of experimentation. We're seeing Thanos builds of it getting to approximately 56% with positive. Cub rates and stuff like that. Dude, I love this card. I don't even care if it's not a great performer'cause it is gonna be a great performer once the decks get ironed out. This is a phenomenal card. Yeah, it is so good. It's so fun. It's, I love it. I think you should get it. It has my full recommendation and I, I still, by the way, I still think it's a good card. I think it's a high power card. I was getting like 30 power. Yep. Like, are you kidding me? It was absolutely great.

Cozy Snap: 47:55

Two Cost Bureau we just talked about. I mean, it's like just what you can get at one and two is we've seen the tested time. If there's a two cost card that has remote high potential, it's gonna be a banger. And that's kind of what's strange. Supreme is proven to be, I think really the only thing. That can lead to losses heavily with it, is that it gets so high in power and it becomes such a wind condition that you rely on it and then they could just slap it with a good old, you know, shadow king, the shunk chi right up right up the strange schnoz, you know? So I, I feel like outside of that, that that's what leads to a couple losses. But as a two br the investment is so low and we talked about it, man. We thought he would just perfectly marry into Thanos man and, and that he did.

Alexander Coccia: 48:29

Absolutely. He crushed in Thanos and it was great because like, I Okay. My, I tried to do this like cook where I did like Thanos lock jaw again.'cause I had this thought of like, you know what, you get the cycle going. You, you put zbu in the deck'cause zbu hits the lock jaw, right? And I, I tried to get this, this mill going. And you know what the funny thing was is once you started to get that, that lock jaw engine engine going, if you pulled rocks. Strange. Supreme sucked him out of the lockjaw lien. So you still had room to keep going? It was actually pretty neat. I think I was onto something, but ultimately what I did was I cut Mockingbird from the deck because I found that you were sucking all the stones out and Mockingbird was actually getting more expensive in your hand more often than not. But looking right now at like untapped, the highest performing versions do still run Mockingbird.'cause you might not have stream Supreme on the board. You want that fallback in Mockingbird. Interestingly enough cards like Captain American Sam Wilson are in these decks, and yet you're just eating the shield nearly immediately, like you're not even playing. So I think there's a lot of. Inefficiencies in the deck design for Strange Supreme, and once they get really ironed out, well I think they're gonna be good. Even clog, honestly, clog felt really strong with him. Like he was a very strong scaler that was wiping up all the boards, like the stuff from debris and everything while your opponent was struggling to play. So I do think The Strange Supreme is a particularly strong card. And I, I, I, man, it's been a while since I've had as much fun Yeah. With it. And he was getting to crazy power levels and. We always have this conversation. Do we want the power creep? Like, I don't know, but I told you like I had a blast playing him this week.

Cozy Snap: 49:58

Yeah, and I feel like more cards we get like rhino too, where they're like good value, but also obviously aid him. That helps so much. Yeah. Because then at that point you're not even going all in. You're just like having a good card that's played along other good cards with slight drawbacks, and then it just kind of fits in perfectly. Randall coming out of the absolute perfect time, man, and it was cool this week to have something like Strange Supreme have all these different ideas and deck builds, and then this OTA come with a heavy hitter as well, and then it's like, wow. It felt like a more diverse snap than typical, which is obviously like always, always a blast to see. But yeah, man, I, I think. I think looking back at all the new car, where did we rank him? That's my question. Originally,

Alexander Coccia: 50:36

we ranked him high. I actually think last week we forgot to give him star ratings. Did we? I don't think we actually said it out loud. I'm scrolling all the way down. I'm trying to find our actual rankings. We'll talk about it next week. Anyway, man, we, we have so many notes, but I believe we ranked him near the absolute top. You might've been number one for us, man. I'm still scrolling. I feel like you're bold. No, I feel

Cozy Snap: 50:55

like we were dumb enough. We put Goliath as our first, but I, I think. We, we, I think you did the bold take of Hydro Stomper.'cause you remember you liked him like a lot. A lot.

Alexander Coccia: 51:05

Oh. I put hydro stomper above Strange Supreme. Yeah. I a feeling right. Goliath one. Yes. Did I have two? Yes. Goliath. One. Hydro Stomper Strange Supreme. Three.

Cozy Snap: 51:14

Did I have strange? Two or three? I.

Alexander Coccia: 51:16

I have to go back and get yours still. I forgot to, I think I, I,

Cozy Snap: 51:19

I either said, I hope I didn't say Catherine Carter. I think I just believed, I think my statement on Carter was if she's bad, they'll make her good. So hopefully, hopefully that will that'll rain true. We'll see that obviously next week. But definitely, definitely fun to see. But yeah, strange, great card. Good potential in, in the future for him. And then, yeah, just gonna be a nice one to snag in the snack pack. In the snack pack whenever you're going, you know, for something else. Snack packs. Snag and snacks. We should actually,

Alexander Coccia: 51:41

we should. That's a perfect transition. Cozy. Let's talk about the snack packs.

Cozy Snap: 51:44

Let's do it, bro. I want a snack pack right now. Little

Alexander Coccia: 51:46

roo buddy. I'm starving. We're actually, do you know what, we're actually recording this earlier than usual. I knows we're a little more energetic. I literally

Cozy Snap: 51:52

was just, I just finished. It's not the middle of the night. Yeah, I was, I was trying to, I was trying to snack while we, we filmed here, man. It was

Alexander Coccia: 51:58

my

Cozy Snap: 51:58

family's

Alexander Coccia: 51:59

eating dinner OMI

Cozy Snap: 52:00

right now. Yeah, the typical, typical, the price we pay. I was thinking that. My wife asked me, she said how, how many weeks have you done this in a row? Now? I'm like, it's crazy to think that two and a half years, like every I've, whether I like it or not, I like it, but whether I like it or not, I'm seeing your face every week for two and a half years. It's a wild thought.

Alexander Coccia: 52:22

Every Saturday night you go to bed, you, you close your eyes and you see my face. I do. I'm staring at you. You ready? For the next day?

Cozy Snap: 52:28

Another Sunday. No, man. I'm always pumped, man. Always, always pumped for it. Yes. Net packs, bro. We got'em. They're coming out this week. What do we got now? That's right.

Alexander Coccia: 52:36

They're coming out this week and I thought like it would be a fun conversation to discuss what are some of the Chase cards? Yep. Like, you know, cozy and I, we've been ripping packs and magic. I've been ripping packs in all different types of games. I just like opening packs. Fun time game. It is. I just wanna open a pack. Right. And having chase cards is important. Like that shadowless charge art. Like imagine, imagine you just opened a pack of. Pokemon right now and you pull the first edition, shadows charge there, one dream and you just like, I don't know, bought a house with it or something.

Cozy Snap: 52:59

One, one could dream. Dude, I was just open up a I opened up a Jumpstart Magic pack and I got the most expensive one in there and I was like, it was like a 50 buck card. I was like, Hey.

Alexander Coccia: 53:07

Dude, we were playing against each other and you opened the little doggy, the doggies worth a lot too. Pup. You, you clap my cheeks with a little doggy that kept getting buffed every

Cozy Snap: 53:14

time you dinner pup. Yeah. What did he do? He gave, was it life? Did he give life every time I played or was life Lincoln plus one. Plus one every time you did something. Yeah. The counters bureau. And that was what was building up. What, what did you play? What? What tech were you playing?

Alexander Coccia: 53:25

I don't even remember. Zelos and something crappy. Zeal. You just absolutely demolished me. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 53:30

Zes. Yeah. Yeah. So series four pack, series five. Series Five plus Packs. What are you thinking right now as far as. You know, what, what are the best cards to get? Where do you wanna start with this? You wanna start with like four? Four? Let's start from the top down. Okay. Top down, let's

Alexander Coccia: 53:42

stop the, so we'll start with seasonal series five packs, which are gonna cost 5,000 tokens. We're gonna go through all the packs and we're gonna talk about some of the chase cards or really good cards to pull from those packs. So seasonal series five packs are gonna cost 5,000 tokens. As of recording, this might change, but as of recording, 5,000 tokens. And this one here is gonna be the one with the. The prior two months worth of kind of seasons, right? Yep. And I believe it's gonna rotate based on a weekly rotation. So basically the ninth card will just get kicked off. Okay. Same thing. Or I don't know how they're gonna do it, but every week one card's gonna enter, one, card's gonna leave. I think I, I believe that's how it's gonna work. Anyways. So over the last like couple of weeks, what have been the really high impact season? Series five cards that have come out, and I'm gonna start with Goliath. I think that Goliath is a great card if you're looking to play any ongoing synergy. Goliath is in every single ongoing deck that is making rounds in Marvel Snap right now. And so I think that you can very confidently pull Goliath outta the seasonal series five.

Cozy Snap: 54:44

Yeah, I think what the cool thing about this new system is, is like, it, it'll feel like, kind of like a physical card gave the sense of like, you pull a card and you're like, oh, I wasn't planning on playing X deck, but now lemme give it a shot. And we've had a lot of cards that have come out that are like. Unless you like this deck, don't get it. And so I like Goliath. I think this is a great example and like really allows you to just play all different types of ongoing builds and just one that can fit is a stable card. You're definitely like super happy about that one. It's gonna, no matter what, if you play it ongoing, it's gonna increase your win rate. If you play it with Goliath, he's just gonna add to the value of that deck. For me, I was thinking like, you know, you have like Star brand where it's like you weren't necessarily thinking about getting Star brand and playing a so on deck, but then you pull'em and you're like, Hey. Why not? Why not? This is already a, a, a, a great card to go with. So I like what you think of there and I think Goliath though is a great way to kick it off, is just a one of those fundamental building block cards you didn't think you needed.

Alexander Coccia: 55:38

And it's interesting because you pull something like Star brand. Instead of like, oh, I'm gonna pay 5,000 tokens for, you know, the seasonal packs, you can then go down to the cheaper series five pack and potentially pull the Aries to complete that shell.'cause those are kind of the two expensive cards in the shell. The rest are kind of more accessible. So like you have this step down of rarity, which kind of helps you save a little bit, which is, I think, kind of interesting. I'm gonna say strange Supreme we just talked about today. I think that's a great card that's worth pulling. And I think Star Brand does stand out as a, as a good call out from. From Kozy there title about seasonal series four packs. Now we don't have any of this seasonal series four. I think the only ones we have are Gorgon and Toxi. Doxy right now, right? Yeah. But I believe they have an intention of, and dumb, dumb, oh, I guess Uncle Ben and Laie. Dumb dumb. Duggan is dumb. Dumb in there. I dumb in there. What happened to dumb dumb.

Cozy Snap: 56:26

Didn't they release some, I got a notification like yesterday that was like, if you missed out on Dun dumb Dugan, oh,

Alexander Coccia: 56:31

that was just some drunk notification gameplay. There was no dumb dumb like, dude, dude, I saw that I was busy. Oxy doxy was the high voltage. That's what

Cozy Snap: 56:37

I, well, I knew that for sure, man. The one that, did you see your animation finally? By the way, remember I was telling you she farts on your cards? Yeah. It's so stupid. Yeah, I know. Weird. It, it's dumb. Dumb.

Alexander Coccia: 56:45

That card sucks so bad, by the way. I was gonna make a video about it. I'm like, yo, this card sucks. Yeah. Wasn't

Cozy Snap: 56:51

her other design even worse to was like, if you don't play a card, what was that stupid card? Cobra? Anyway

Alexander Coccia: 56:56

so see I forgot about Cobra Co. Cobra's a card I have forgotten. Existed like multiple times while recording.

Cozy Snap: 57:02

Yeah, bro. And actually

Alexander Coccia: 57:03

last time it came up, you're like, what do you think about Cobra? We were doing like a future seasons episode. I'm like, bro, I, I forgot that card existed. I have no notes on it.

Cozy Snap: 57:10

Seeing E Tree. Yeah bro. But yeah, going to so series four don't know like how, what will end into that one, but like. As far as the general c series five packs, right? This is the big hitter, right? This is the one where it's like you're gonna have so many cards I feel like in here, that you could get, and Alex, I think we can both agree. I feel like outside of fundamental cards, like big time, they're gonna make the archetype. I. It's gotta be just cards that are plug and playable into so many decks, give you a new way to play, and they're gonna add to your overall success. Like, I think that's what you're hoping to pull. If you want to give me, I, I mean I could give you one, I guess like a lacto, I think is a great example of that, right? Where it's just like, immediately you're gonna have this card that you could start building into your decks. That's gonna be great in the long run.

Alexander Coccia: 57:51

That goes pretty much anywhere too. Yeah. Like you can play GTA in so many different decks. Right. It's also worth doing that series five packs will be where the cards go after they become non-seasonal anymore. And there'll be a 4,000 token pack. So 6,000 to buy in the shop. 5,000, sorry. 6,000 tokens to buy a card outright from the, like the pinned token shop, 5,000 tokens to get the seasonal series five. And then 4,000 tokens for the standard series five. I like the galactic call and I think that's like what a lot of the different kind of ones we're gonna talk about today. But can I make an argument for the big bads? We have a ton of big bads here and I guess that the term big bad is one that might have to be redefined eventually, but the likes of Thanos, high Evo, even Galactic, who's not necessarily meta irrelevant right now, but Enos is literally making a massive comeback right now with Strange Supreme. Hi Evo. Despite the fact it's really being only played in like the Ajax abomination package. Is doing very well at some of the highest win rates in the game right now. These are great build around cards and if you're someone who's relatively early in your collection level in Marvel Snap, you pull high Evo, you've got something like, you've got some fun stuff that you can do with some relatively inexpensive cards. And so those big bads, I think they're incredible pulls. For the series five packs.

Cozy Snap: 59:06

Yeah. Give you a really like, unique way to play. Like I think that's the other thing. So you have like plug and play cards and then you have like, and Big Bads is a good call it, but unique cards that really give you a new way to play a suit and play style and or like experience the game. So like example that is again, as we talked about, but like Wcan I feel like is like, okay, he gives you access to just such a different way to ramp within Snap. So like that would be another one that I'd be pumped for. But I like the call out though. Like imagine you've just been holding off. It's hard to imagine like, like us obviously not having these cards, but for somebody that's coming back to the game, like going in there, cracking a pack, getting high Evo, bro, that's a good way to start things out. That's how I wanna envision this is like people coming back into the game and getting some of these, these polls.

Alexander Coccia: 59:48

Yeah. And especially since like, that's the thing I, I do worry about though. It's like, yes, like that's super exciting, but it's still 4,000 tokens. Like that is a lot. So someone comes back to the game and if they don't have tokens right, they, they probably spent their resources before they exited exit. That's I saying they have token have tons of resources.

Cozy Snap: 1:00:03

I think they've gotta give a free card pull too for people that come back. I feel like that's just the way, I think they should

Alexander Coccia: 1:00:07

just straight up give one of everyone, one of every single one. Why not? You know what I mean?

Cozy Snap: 1:00:11

You're trying to get someone to come back to the game, like they're not gonna come back, get one card, pull a, you know, whatever, dumb, dumb Duggan, and be like, all right, well, I I'm just not gonna continue to play still. Like, give them a, a fun reason to come back.

Alexander Coccia: 1:00:26

Yeah. They have to get something and I, I'm really hope, I'm really hoping they do the creator packs that they kind of hinted at. Because I tell you guys, my pack's gonna be sick. Like I don't think they're gonna let us be like, here's all the top. Like, I'm not, they're not gonna let me make a pack of Thanos High Evo. Yeah. Sam Wilson. Iron Patriot. Yeah. Every single good card in the game. Best card in the game. It like, you buy one pack, you get every absolutely stellar card. Actually I think that Red Guardian's a great card. Great card to pull from a series five pack. Talk about a universal, fantastic tech piece. For the same reason I think that copycat, well, not necessarily like niche in how you play it, it's so wide ranging that if you're someone who's like still building a collection, you pull copycat, man, that's, that's a great filler. That's a great, like, oh, I don't have this card. I guess I'll play copycat. Right. You know what I mean? I think that's a, it's a great kind of a card to fall back on. Are there any others that stand out to you in the series? Five. If

Cozy Snap: 1:01:16

I was a new player. Sorry, a returning player. When I try to think of an archetype that's always very comfortable to play, it's very easy to get the understanding of and talk about some juice behind it. Man, imagine playing a good like two months, right? And then you quit around Silver surfer, I don't know. You come back, you pull Gilgamesh. It's like, man, what an awesome card to pull for zoo, just to get things going, like right away. Just to get like a, a powerhouse of a vertical card. I think that'd be a really cool one to pull earlier as well.

Alexander Coccia: 1:01:47

Oh, it definitely would be. Yeah. And like like and on that, like Mockingbird is gonna be in the series five packs as well. But yeah, like Gil Connect is great. Like that is such a fantastic call out because zoo is so accessible relatively early in Snap, especially with Blue Mar kr all really early cars to collect and then you just need that slam finisher and that's exactly what Gilgamesh is. That's a fantastic call out. Before we move on to the next pack I guess one more I want to shout out for sure. Is agent Venom? I think Age of Venom is a great, great card. I think it's kind of been forgotten to some degree. The only challenge with the agent Venom decks is they do run like Athenas, the kiddie prides. I feel like on average they're a little more expensive because of that, especially since returning players might not be guaranteed to have something like Athena, which is still kind of a, a card. I'm actually not sure what, what pool or what series Thena is. Did he drop the four or is it still five still? He's still still, I think he's

Cozy Snap: 1:02:40

five still. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 1:02:42

Oh, I should have put her on this list.

Cozy Snap: 1:02:44

Yeah, no, I, agent Vim, I think checks the box of what I was saying, like a different way to play. Like you get him and it's like, all right, you have a new objective, new way to, new way to play. It's kinda like in yeah, magic Commander, right? It's like, okay, you, you kind of have this like main hub of a card and then like, okay, you guaranteed, I mean, obviously Commander, you're guaranteed to have it, that's why it's different, but you're, you're building your deck around it and I think there's a lot of ways that Deck can win. In general, series four has a bit less. How much is series four? They're 2000. 2000 tokens. Kozy. Okay. Alright. 2000 tokens. And there's still big hitters, bro. I think if you did not get it, I think Loki has a one Cost would be a sick hit. For series four.

Alexander Coccia: 1:03:24

I've been enjoying Loki. It's not quite what it used to be. I still, I know this is like Alex, stop coping, but I still miss transforming your hand. It was such a fun effect. It was so good. I wish they could find a way to bring balance to that original effect.'cause it was something special about having all these cards in your hand just turn into like. This variant of your, of your Loki.'cause you know, it, it kind of takes the border effect of your Loki. It was just great. It was great. Maybe it was great'cause it was way too op, but existing Loki is at least better and certainly more playable. I would definitely recommend it. And it's actually ironically mostly being played in Thanos right now, which is being seeing a significant resurgence. Although a strange Supreme will suck all your Loki cards. So that's something worth noting. Even though they've been transformed the suck Supreme will will have, we'll absolutely demolish those cards as they go down, which could be good or bad based off of you know, what you want to happen. Now, a card I wanna call out here, and it might actually be in the seasonal series four, like I'm not actually sure where the, they're gonna break down there. But Gorgan Gogan is a series four card that's actually seen quite a bit of play right now. And we just talked about Hal Thanos is making a comeback. Gor kind of slaps Thanos in the face a little bit. It doesn't completely derail their game plan, but it certainly slows them down enough to give you an advantage that you could potentially snap into a gor on turn two play. And they might just leave after, you know, your gorgan reveals.'cause it's just not worth it if you're a Thanos player. But I think go's definitely worth series four, whether it's in the the Series four pack or in the seasonal series four. But yeah, I wanna give, go a good shout out. I

Cozy Snap: 1:04:55

like the shout out. I is tribunal Living Tribunal's in series four. Yeah. That's a cool, yeah. Oblivious or that's a cool pick. That's a cool card to get. And you're just like, dude, for 2K tokens, having a tribunal deck that relatively, you can run just fine with like Ironman onslaught whatnot, right? Like that's a cool, yeah, it's pretty

Alexander Coccia: 1:05:12

inexpensive actually, isn't it?

Cozy Snap: 1:05:13

Like traditional especially, right? Yeah, I, I think so. Like what? Yeah. Sarah Magic. You do some of the old builds, it's like, man, that thing can still slap.

Alexander Coccia: 1:05:21

Yeah, it does actually. I like that color. Yeah. Tribunal's relatively inexpensive to build. And if so, like you're kind of building your collection still and you pull that from the series four bin. You might actually be able to like clap some cheeks with it. And the only, the only risk you run is as you get into higher ELOs the Star brand, Saron Enchanter decks are really popular and I bet you though tribunal will become more playable after the Agent Carter season because Captain Carter's being played so much right now. That people are like teching very specifically against those like weekend missions and stuff that obviously Enchanters tends to feast on. So yeah, tribunal's a great call. Dark Hawk a Forever Series four card. Dark Hawk hasn't been seeing as much play, but like it feels like. The history of Marvel Snap. There's no card that has made more comebacks than Dark Hawk. It's time's just gonna come again. Like there's gonna come a time where Dark Hawk's back, I mean, dark hawk's even good now with all the Thanos players'cause they have en engorged decks. And so as a result, you know, I wish I couldn't engorged, like I had, I had to pick Eng Gorge the worst. That's the worst. Worst. But that's, that's worst. That's the term I had to use. I'm just stop. I'm not gonna talk anymore. You go ahead.

Cozy Snap: 1:06:26

No, no, I I I You've taken the words outta my mouth. I was gonna. I was gonna use that word. And then I decided, wait, I'm on a podcast. I probably shouldn't. No. Yeah. Great, great point. That your series four, so it's cool, man. You got season five fives series four, potential seasonal four. Look at what that looks like. And then finally you have, or just the cheap sheet cost is six 50 tokens, which if you're only played a couple months, come back, man. You just start, if you got 5K tokens, everybody gets a free 5K tokens. Dude, don't use it on the series five, man. Just rip'em, ship'em in series three, see what you get.

Alexander Coccia: 1:06:59

First of all, I find a way to ruin every podcast day. Every single one I find a way. But yeah, series three, pack six 50 tokens. There are so many cars to talk about, though, like it would, it would take us forever. So we can't go through them all. Just to kind of pick up on a couple of them, and by the way, I will say they have improved the acquisition rate of series three. And so like, you really shouldn't be spending your tokens here, I don't think. I think you should be doing the collection track. Save if your tokens for everything else. Smart man once said that. I think Cozy literally just said that. But anyways, I'll I'll just, I'll repeat again. Find a way to ruin every podcast, but a couple cards that wanna stand out here. I think is it time to admit that Zbu is a standout cart or what?

Cozy Snap: 1:07:35

Yeah, man. Getting Zbu gives you a full fresh, I mean, I think him and surfer are just like the tale. Tale is old as time, right? Yeah. Getting both those give you new ways to play, play different costs, which everybody has not. Like sometimes you'll be missing an archetype. Key pieces here. You're always able to make something work and cost lots.

Alexander Coccia: 1:07:52

Yeah, no, for sure. Like silver surface. Fantastic. Dr. Doom obviously a great pull, like just kind of a ubiquitous card that can go anywhere tech-wise. Shadow King I think is a fantastic pull here. Magic final one I wanna shout out. I think Sarah's great. Like Sarah, I think pulling Sarah from a series three pack would be great. So there's so many cards. Series three is just so massive now. But generally speaking, you're gonna want to conserve your tokens and allow that double up that they've provided us in the collection track to kind of do its work because your tokens are valuable. Like don't just waste them willy-nilly, like it's, they're a very valuable commodity. Despite the fact though, you gotta give'em credit. The six 50 tokens is an improvement.'cause it used to be a thousand tokens to pull a random series three. Now it's six 50 and they're actually doubled up in the collection track, so that's pretty good. You know what else is good? Cozy. This Snapchat mailbag baby. It's Snapchat mailbag time. We're gonna be discussing a couple nice solid questions and the first one's a two-parter multiple com cozy. To say that there were a lot of comments about this topic would be an understatement. Sir Kazu starts us off with wasn't expecting such a Super smash bros argument. Ha ha. But cozy is right here. There was no Zelda or Chic on the N 64 Smash Bros. Only link. Followed up by Michael Power who said this was such a ride as a Smash Bros. Mega fan going from Y the F is Zelda on the thumbnail to then experiencing the rollercoaster. Cozy was an absolute gentleman, not to dunk on Alex even harder than he did.

Cozy Snap: 1:09:19

You know what? Sometimes you just need to know that you've won the battle already. Again, it's like at this point I'm dating Alex, he's my wife. So it's like, I know I'm right, but I just, especially with how beautiful you look today. I know I'm right. I just I just kind of. I let it, I let it work itself out. Like when you were like, what are you willing to bet? We need a definitive statement. I was like, my life, like, like I was ready to throw it all, all on the line. But yes, I, I, I, well, I told you I'd listened to that back. I think I listened to it twice. Just to, just to, just a cackle honestly, the, the hill you, you were willing to die on.

Alexander Coccia: 1:09:56

You know what though? Sometimes we make mistakes, man. Yeah. I forgot an entire console that sold millions and millions of copies existed. You like the, you know what I mean? And you know what the worst part is? Obviously I like, do I have to go pull it out? I have the N 64 Smash Bros.

Cozy Snap: 1:10:09

When you go, of course I do. When you go, when you go, maybe there's a chance. We're both right. I think that's my favorite.'cause I'm like, no, there's no. There's just, there's none. But yeah, that, that was like one of my more favorite random subjects we've talked about one of these days, guys, we keep talking about, one of these days we just wanna do a podcast where we talk about anything and everything. Even if we get like 500 viewers, we'll find a time. We'll make it. Yeah, that,

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:33

that would be fun, honestly. And undead egg Meister comes in with the next question and it reads, Alex finally admitted he was wrong about Smash, but still refuses to admit that he's wrong with Zao.

Cozy Snap: 1:10:45

Oh, he'll die if you think he'll die in the Zelda. He'll, he will actually die before he mentions anything nice about aero and anything good about Zbu. That's just the two things that make Alex, coach Alex, coach a AC.

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:56

I actually just, I, I kind of forgot I had this pulled aside. I didn't, I just kind of give Zao a little bit of a fist bump, like literally four months did months ago. Did two

Cozy Snap: 1:11:03

and, and like two episodes ago, you like finally admitted it as well. That's true.

Alexander Coccia: 1:11:07

But I will tell you, arrow, complete garbage. Yeah. Ate the cart. She would just do delete from Snap's Gonna take another year if they put arrow in rivals. I like, I, I don't even know what you're gonna do. Like I don't want to, I don't even wanna know what your channel's gonna look

Cozy Snap: 1:11:18

like. Implo my man. Dude, you wanna see something cool. Hold on.

Alexander Coccia: 1:11:22

I do wanna see something. Cool. So for the audio viewers, cozy is somewhat off camera. He's getting something. He's back. Is that an Arrow comic?

Cozy Snap: 1:11:31

It is a

Alexander Coccia: 1:11:31

graded, graded

Cozy Snap: 1:11:32

9.8. If you guys know Comic grades, this is a, this is a gym Arrow edition number one. You're welcome. I don't, I don't just, I don't just preach. I practice what I preach. A man. Okay. Where'd you get that? Heaven.

Alexander Coccia: 1:11:49

Did you buy it graded or did you buy the comics then graded? It was, it was a

Cozy Snap: 1:11:52

gift and it was the best gift I've ever received.

Alexander Coccia: 1:11:55

That is incredible. I honestly did. I know you, I don't even think I knew you had that. No, that's a surprise to me. It's,

Cozy Snap: 1:12:01

it's relatively new. It's really, I gotta, I gotta keep, gotta keep the the arrow game strong, man. I, I would have posters, but it's a little too wa wifey, so I had to tame down on those.

Alexander Coccia: 1:12:11

You know what you gotta do is just put a poster above your bed so when you and your wife lay down, you just see Arrow and she gets Watch it over

Cozy Snap: 1:12:16

me. Right next to the Alex Kocha poster. Yep. Coming suit. That's right.

Alexander Coccia: 1:12:20

Honest pretense comes in with our next question and a lot of love, cozy for the the board game shout outs that you gave last week. Speaking of physical games, another one that I think you guys would love is Dice Throne. If you haven't heard of it, killer, it's the best way to describe it as battle ysi, you pick a character to play as you roll dice to activate different abilities to defeat your opponent. There are even multiple characters released for it, including Marvel characters. Cozy. Guess what I get to do? I get to do exactly what you just did. Low key. I get to disappear.

Cozy Snap: 1:12:46

Which one do you have? Loki? Which one? He's coming back. Alex is gone. He's running fast. Alex runs a a a 9 7 40 yard dash. Pretty fast. By comparison, an elephant runs a six seven. Alex does have some speed dual Also, Alex is wearing pink today. We did not address it. Be sure to put in the comics that he's beautiful like Barbie. Nice, nice. He's showing his dice King with s lock on the cover and dys, sorry. And he's got ooh, the classic X-Men 97 build. Absolute beauty there. Dude, that was that's sick man. I like it. That, that gives a lot of fun. I should have had it

Alexander Coccia: 1:13:23

prepared.

Cozy Snap: 1:13:24

I feel like you got, you get a lot of stuff that you don't play though, like, you know what I mean?'cause you don't have the time. You can tell it's still sealed. Yeah. It's like you got the magic commander car sealed, you know, you got that sealed. You got the, you just bought oblivion, but then you also bought you, you, you, you're a man that has a lot of ambition.

Alexander Coccia: 1:13:39

I do. I have a lot of ambition. Very little time to actually execute on any of it.

Cozy Snap: 1:13:43

Well, buddy love, love the comments. Love the smash talk. Love, love, love you.

Alexander Coccia: 1:13:50

Thank you buddy. And there's one last question that needs to be asked, and I like this one a lot. Cozy. This comes from Coot 47, and it reads, if Cozy had to be a teacher, what would he teach from pre-K all the way to community college or Ivy League? If Alex had to wait. What did Cozy do before this? I feel like he's been an ex car salesman, or at the very least one of them mall kiosk finance advisors. What the hell that or bro sold surfboards,

Cozy Snap: 1:14:18

first of all. What the hell on all three of those? That's impeccable. I was not a used car salesman. No. I was also not in a mall kiosk. Nope. Nope. Avoid, I, I, I didn't do those two. If I was a teacher, that's a great question. Like, I'm gonna stick to like traditional teacher. Like, I'm not gonna be like, I can't, great. I would teach how to, how to YouTube. I would say I've always been a big fan of history, man. Not gonna lie. I think traveling the states is really cool, but we're not old. I think traveling and, and seeing historic places and where historic events have happened is so damn underrated. I've was always an athlete first, a student second, but in history, I naturally would get a's and a's pluses'cause I naturally cared a lot that, but I would also teach I how to do taxes correctly, how to, how to budget, how to, I wish to God this was taught more in school how to, how to actually. Give a damn about that. Those would be my pupil. Be a grown person. Yeah. Be a grown person. And not like life skills.

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:19

You're saying? Life skills should be taught.

Cozy Snap: 1:15:20

Yeah, bro. Like I know what a freaking, like, I, I, I know how to do algebra, which I guess algebra is kind of important, but like I, I know how to I don't know. I, I know things that I shouldn't know, but here we are. I don't know. I,

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:31

I think that's right, man. Life skills are so important and it's funny, right? Like we. Our education system focused so much on so many other things, but often not enough on the intangibles that makes great people. Great. And so I like what you said there, and actually, to be honest with you, you wanna talk about history and making content on history. I'll give you an idea for you know, a video on one of your other 12 channels. You could do, I swam to Easter Island and dug up one of the statues.

Cozy Snap: 1:15:57

It's a good, it's a banger. That's a good way to go out to, you know, like get the jail time after. But like, at least the video's popping. I.

Alexander Coccia: 1:16:04

If you start swimming from California, how far and long do you think it would take for you to hit Easter Island?

Cozy Snap: 1:16:10

One. I

Alexander Coccia: 1:16:11

think

Cozy Snap: 1:16:12

after about 10 minutes. You're in good shape, though. I would die, so we would never know. I would die. I, I'm in good shape, row, but I don't know, man. Swimming is, is a, is hard, like when I go surfing and it's been a while, bro. There's like 19 muscles that I just forgot to use. In fact, I went surfing the other day and I had to, I dunno if I can show this on camera. I had to where is it man? Where is it? Cozy ISS pulling off his pants right there. You see that?

Alexander Coccia: 1:16:39

Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 1:16:40

I got cups on my neck. I had to get cupping done on my neck.'cause it was it was, you know what cupping is? I don't know what cupping

Alexander Coccia: 1:16:46

is.

Cozy Snap: 1:16:46

No, what cupping is, bro. I swear you don't go outside.

Alexander Coccia: 1:16:49

That's a fact. It's, it's nothing cool. Yeah, don't go outside.

Cozy Snap: 1:16:51

It's like you, you haven't seen where they like light the match under the cup and. To your skin and it like pulls off. That sounds awful. Why would you do that? It is so, it sounds torts. It is. It is. But it it's good for the body, good for the soul. It's

Alexander Coccia: 1:17:01

like the thing that they used to do like the plague doctors used to do on people with the black plague. It's funny you

Cozy Snap: 1:17:05

say that. It was a plague. Doctor Who, who did it to me? Guys, thank you so much for coming to this episode of the Snapchat where you can learn about beautiful things here, like me drowning the ocean. Plug doctors. And a whole lot more. Alex Kocha. Beautiful as always. Please comment, one to 10, would you take'em on a date? And we appreciate you as always, guys. Have a good one. Have a great one. To the next one, happy. What do, what do you say? What do you say? What do you say? I

Alexander Coccia: 1:17:27

say happy,

Cozy Snap: 1:17:28

snapping happy, snapping happy. No, that's my thing. I

Alexander Coccia: 1:17:31

don't know what I say.

Cozy Snap: 1:17:32

Until the next one, happy snapping.