96 Extra. A Deep Dive into Regeneration: Part 2 of my conversation with global visionary Paul Hawken

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6:10
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10:40
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14:40
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19:40
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21:10
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30:40
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47:40
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57:40
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A sense of Paul’s daily life with Regeneration in mind (including some of the ‘making of’ Regeneration)
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A rare glimpse into the next book
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96 Extra. A Deep Dive into Regeneration: Part 2 of my conversation with global visionary Paul Hawken
Oct 11, 2021 Season 5 Episode 96
Anthony James

This is a very special extra to episode 96 with Paul Hawken, the globally renowned environmentalist, author, entrepreneur and activist. I say extra, but it’s really a second part, a whole conversation in its own right. Some of the story behind the story. This is essentially the middle hour and a bit of our conversation, where we deep-dove into some of the keystone themes, if you like, of Regeneration - the themes that enable all the other themes. Or disable them, if absent or mis-placed. Some of this is based on what’s in the book, some on what I noted isn’t in it.

We pick up with a profound story Paul tells of an encounter he had with a Yupik woman from the Bering Strait region. This stemmed from where we spoke in the main episode of what gripped each of us most in Regeneration. We go on to delve into those keystone themes (mapped out below), before closing with some beautiful and revealing personal musings. Firstly, on how Paul approaches his days with Regeneration in mind. And then he offers us a rare glimpse ahead to his next book.

In case you want to hit up particular parts of our conversation, here’s a mapping of it (though the inter-weaving of each topic comes from listening in sequence):

Title slide: from the extraordinary Solutions page on the Regeneration website.

Music:
By Jeremiah Johnson.

Find more:
You can hear the rest of our conversation in the main episode (along with access to links in the show notes), ‘Regeneration: Ending the climate crisis in one generation’.

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