Where Knowledge Systems Meet, Country Heals: A Panel at Grounded Festival WA

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Chapters
0:00
Setting the scene
3:14
What’s burning for Heidi right now?
6:11
If all farms went regen today, it still wouldn’t heal Country
7:17
Why Ag Is Key To Healing Country
8:02
Offsets, Emissions And Pushing Back
9:07
Heidi’s extraordinary first visit to the Haggerty farm
11:35
The Rainbow Serpent Experience
12:59
Di’s experience of that time
14:04
Ian’s message to farmers thinking or fearful about connecting with First Nations
14:56
Songlines Walk And Shared Awakening
17:31
Reaching Older Farmers With Example
20:04
Place Of Welcome And Transformations
21:53
The issue of land title, ownership & security of tenure
22:44
So how do we connect in practice – farmers, First Nations & all of us?
25:11
That Country needs grasses more than trees
26:56
We do need to go slow to go fast
28:11
Hunting, Food As Medicine, Ceremonies
30:43
Shifting gear on the many opportunities when we collaborate
32:31
A dream of merging families
34:11
Working with the Governor
34:41
The paramount theme from the conference into the festival
37:14
Q1 from the floor: Dreamtime Value And Accreditation
38:29
Creating market systems with culture integrated
40:26
Q2 (Sadie Chrestman) – do you have dreams of where this might take you all? (Di first)
42:54
A new story embracing labour intensive economies as connection?
43:54
The satellites don’t pick up native grasses
44:29
Ian’s dream – who wants to join them?
47:39
Finance Barriers And Land At Risk
48:27
Heidi’s dream
51:41
Hopes For Children And Healing
52:52
Q3 (comment from Barry Green)
53:19
Q4 (comment from Virginia Kelleher): Audience pledges & hope
54:11
Closing thoughts – Ian first
54:59
Di
55:05
Launch of the Alliance for Human and Planetary Health
57:49
Heidi’s sum of the week as a whole – and call from here
The RegenNarration Podcast
Where Knowledge Systems Meet, Country Heals: A Panel at Grounded Festival WA
Nov 03, 2025 Season 9 Episode 281
Anthony James

Straight after the Regenerating Food Systems conference you’ve been hearing from in recent weeks, we headed south for the Grounded Festival. It was my privilege to host proceedings there on the last day, in one of the two marquees by the lake, on the wonderful Galloway Springs Farm near Bridgetown. There were three panel conversations there that the team at Grounded has generously allowed me to share here. 

Those panels happened to be such emotional, substantial and funny pinnacles of what had been an extraordinary week as a whole here in WA – from Government House, through the conference at the city Stadium, to this festival in the field. 

These panel conversations offer something of a debrief on the week, some significant early outcomes and resolutions, and the spirit that had summed along the way. 

First up, then, the extraordinary morning panel, still reverberating for many, featuring three people who had been at the three major events – and some others - through the week: 

  • West Australians of the Year, farmers and previous podcast guests, Di and Ian Haggerty; and
  • Noongar and Thin-ma Warriyanka woman and also a previous podcast guest, Heidi Mippy. 

On the topic of First Nations Integration into the Food System. 

And how this yarn builds. 

Chapter markers & transcript.

Recorded 20 September 2025.

Title image: AJ, Heidi, Di and Ian on stage (pic: Alan Benson).

See more photos on the episode web page, including the illustration by Brenna Quinlan, and for more behind the scenes, become a supporting listener below.

If you’d like to see that image of the Wagyl on Heidi’s first visit to the Haggerty farm, head to episode 143.

Music:

Barefoot, by Mark Grundhoefer (from Artlist).

Regeneration, by Amelia Barden.

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