LIVE PODCAST EVENT!

What if a first responder never had to weather the storm alone? We kick off season four with a live conversation that looks honestly at burnout, isolation, and the stress of the job.

We share how our EQUIP program now reaches recruits across police, fire, EMS, and dispatch, giving new classes the mental, spiritual, and relational tools we wish we had. We expand equine assisted therapy through partners like Godspeed Equine, and we clarify why “volunteers” and “ambassadors” are different: ambassadors are peers with lived experience who answer the call, sit in the chaos, and guide toward help without judgment or department ties. For families, especially spouses carrying secondary trauma, we outline retreats and resources that rebuild trust and communication.

Then we unveil the Refuge; a 100-acre vision near Des Moines with ponds, trails, cottages, and a gear-filled Morton building. Imagine borrowing a camper, kayaks, or side-by-sides and finding a quiet room or a small group ready to listen. Add a barn for gatherings, an education center for trainings and counseling, and a permanent studio to keep stories flowing. It’s not a brochure; it’s a blueprint for healing: clean water time through fishing, running, worship on your commute, painting outside your comfort zone, or riding a horse that helps your nervous system finally exhale.

If this mission resonates—whether you’re a first responder, a spouse, or someone who wants to help—join us. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend who needs hope, and email Dan@10-42project.org to volunteer, become an ambassador, or support the Refuge. Your voice can multiply the message. Your action can change a life.

If you or someone you know is in crisis and at risk of self-harm, please call or text 988, the suicide and crisis lifeline. 

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Transcript

Live Launch And Team Intros

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Well, welcome to season four of the shared voices podcast from 1042 Project. We are doing a live recording today. We're excited for this. We're nervous for this. Uh Gentry and I have spent hours and hours setting this setting this place up. And hopefully every connection's tight and everything's gonna work. But thank you guys for joining us. Hopefully, this is streaming and streaming smooth. If it doesn't, this will be released um next week as well. If if the stream doesn't go through, um, but we're just gonna we're gonna learn as we go. But thanks for jumping on here. We've got an awesome uh group up here as always. We've got my little my wonderful wife, Christina. Hello. Hello, how you doing? Pretty good. All right, ready for this? And we got Brianna.

SPEAKER_03 0:50

Yes, hello.

2025 Recap And 2026 Focus

SPEAKER_00 0:51

And we got Jakey Jake. Hi. How's it going, Jake? Good, it's going great. Um, so yeah, we're excited on this episode. We're gonna talk a little bit, we're gonna do a little bit of follow-up from um the stuff we had done last year, and we're gonna talk about 2026 going forward and what some of the plans are, um, some of the exciting things we have coming up, and how you can get more involved. Um, but we're gonna kind of just keep this as a light episode.

SPEAKER_06 1:15

Um so recap.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Recap. What do you think about last year? We finished it, we got it wrapped up. We had a lot, we had a lot of success last year. We've learned a lot. Um, we've had a lot of people come on that's really helped us. And then going into 2026, we're really excited to to share um some of the programming stuff we have coming up. And if we sound tired, it's because we are tired. Gentry's over there right now with red-jawed eyes. And uh speaking of that, this is weird. Hey, when you wake up to your alarm, do you wake up to your alarm the first time and get up? Or do you set it so it has 15 alarms that go off?

SPEAKER_04 1:56

I sneeze my alarm for about an hour and a half every morning.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

Yes. Validation.

SPEAKER_04 2:01

This is nuts. Do you do that?

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Uh yes, but I it's an eight-minute increments. My husband sets his so it goes off every minute and it's a different tone each time. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

You guys are weird. Maybe I'm the only one. I I I have to get up the first time it goes off. Otherwise, I'm gonna be disappointed more than once because it's gonna go off a little bit later and then I'm disappointed. So why have 19 different disappointments in the correct?

SPEAKER_03 2:26

So I was also told though, you should, if you're going to set it multiple times, it should be one minute apart and do not do more than like five of them, or else you you're gonna be more tired when you get up.

Sleep, Alarms, And On-The-Job Stories

SPEAKER_04 2:39

Just get up to the alarm. I don't get it. I I just stay awake way too late. I try to convince myself I'm good on like five hours of sleep and I'm not, and so it just takes forever to wake up.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

But you did it in your whole your whole law enforcement career and then Well, and to up to this day. That's why we're sitting on a stage. Because we didn't learn that lesson. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:00

Did you ever fall asleep on the job? Uh, one time, and I it it didn't help, and I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

And like you were in your patrol car and like dozed off?

SPEAKER_04 3:07

I went no, I went home. I lived in town, I went home, and I was very intentional about like calling dispatch and saying, like, I'm tired, I'm gonna take a nap. My phone's on, my radio's on, I'm just gonna take a nap. And I I slept for like 20 minutes and woke up. Felt so much worse. Like, so much worse. So I just never did it again.

SPEAKER_06 3:23

That's the giggle with naps, though.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Yeah, I've never heard of anybody telling dispatch when they're taking a nap. We just do it and hope we don't get caught. I was too paranoid to do that. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:32

There's two kinds of people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

I was never I was never able to nap during during the I couldn't. I was always afraid that I was gonna miss the tone. I was gonna be that guy that there'd be a shooting and I would just show up later and be like, what happened?

SPEAKER_04 3:46

So I did I did something like that one time during COVID. I got I was a detective, got put on work from home. I don't know what you do as a detective at home.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

You detect stuff from home.

SPEAKER_04 3:55

So I played video games until seven in the morning. Oh. And then I went to sleep. Woke up at like two in the afternoon with a million missed calls. Someone had someone had been murdered that morning, like five minutes after I went to sleep, and I didn't hear any of the calls. That was always my that was always my fear.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Always my fear. Yeah. Well, sometimes the calls you miss are worse, sometimes can be worse than the ones that you were on. Because like there was a big shootout, you know, down by the airport that we were in, like, and I was working on that case for hours for I don't know, 18, some hours, 20 hours, and then I left, and that's when all the shooting stuff happened. So sometimes the calls you miss, I feel like a lot of those first responders can carry those too. Um so I don't know, that was a big one for me.

SPEAKER_06 4:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Yeah. Did you ever uh uh did you ever accidentally shoot something on your on your no, no, but I think you did. I shot the floorboard of a patrol car. Yeah, I squared it, boom, right through, man.

SPEAKER_04 4:52

It was no no NDs for me.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

And I was uh and I was a young officer. I only had I had like literally like five days or something left on my probation. Yeah, and you shoot a hole in the bottom of your patrol car, they kind of frown on that. And I freaked out, man. I called the the sergeant, he was off duty. He was I woke him up two in the morning, he came up there and he just started laughing. I wasn't laughing, I was crying like a baby, man.

SPEAKER_04 5:14

I I I I did text and drive and rear-end somebody in a police car one time. Nice. I thought I th I was pretty new. I thought for sure that was gonna be the end of it, but no one, not a single person cared.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

Oh Jim wreck any patrol cars?

SPEAKER_03 5:27

Uh he did not. Um, I do have I mean, when his shooting occurred, uh everyone except one deputy arrived um and even knew anything about it. Um this one took some Benadryl and and went to sleep and didn't wake up until like seven the next morning and was like, what's going on here? So we did have that, but I don't think any no, I don't think he had any.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

Yeah. I don't know if you guys saw earlier that I when I posted a little video on Facebook and then we talked about this before, but have you run lights and sirens?

SPEAKER_04 6:00

Oh, I did see that, I just forgot. Yeah. My brain doesn't work.

Program Expansion And Equine Therapy

SPEAKER_00 6:03

I mean, come on, you're out there working these 10-hour shifts, you're on these calls, and all of a sudden nature calls, man. I don't know. Have you run lights and sirens all the way from across town to your house?

SPEAKER_04 6:11

I mean, I think I probably just sped, you know, like I probably didn't have the lights on, but I think I probably did that.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

I've done it more than once. I think my neighbors were concerned. Sometimes you just have to.

SPEAKER_06 6:23

They probably caught on, they knew very well.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

Yeah. Um you guys are fun. So let's talk about um 2026. We had a meeting the other day and we talked about um some programmings that we've we we added over the last year, and then we really want to expand one of those, you know, expand some of those. So I really want to dive into going into 2026. Um, this is our our fourth season of the podcast. Um, we know we got our 5010 501c3 in December of 2021, and we have just been following the word of God and trusting, trusting, and and trusting his word and just leaning forward and and doing what we're doing. And we figure it out and we adjust and we get better at it. And um, so for some of the programming come up in 2020 or in 2026, um, one of the things we're gonna be leaning more on, and Brandon is gonna be leading the equine assisted therapy out at Godspeed Equine, and we're also gonna be reaching out. So, you guys are ambassadors that are around the state, or any of the first responders around the state, we are gonna be chopping the state up into four quadrants. So we have uh ambassador leaders in each quadrant, and we're gonna be having events and stuff going on in each corners of the state, um, so we can multiply. And we also want to get equine therapy going in those four quadrants. So if you guys know of an organization in your area that does does equine assisted therapy um that may allow our organization to use the facility, let us know. And we're really wanting to grow that across the strip across the state. Um, and Brianna's leading that up. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 8:03

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

She loves horses, she has horses.

SPEAKER_03 8:06

I'm honored to to get to be in that position.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Yeah, you and Gentry are there a lot. Yeah. I think if if you guys could, you'd be there pretty much every day.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Um, yes. We at least five days a week. Yeah. We'll take a break on the weekends.

EQUIP In Academies Across Services

SPEAKER_00 8:20

It's a beautiful place. And and and so come out, reach out to us if that's something you're interested in. We're gonna be getting those those going and uh we'll be filling you guys in on that. And also we're gonna be for the equip program. Um in the academies, we got those starting up. We got a another class that just started last week. So this week, so this year we are we will be in Iowa Law Enforcement Academy for our equip program, equipping all the new recruits there, but we are also now in the all four that we serve.

SPEAKER_06 8:53

So we're in the police academy, the fire academy, and we speak to the dispatch classes, their their training, and then the um EMS as well. Their yeah, their program.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Which is pretty cool. I mean, to think uh I to think that that would happen when we first started the organization. Um pretty cool that we're in there. Yeah. Being able to go in there and get with these recruits, these new dispatchers, law enforcement officers, firefighters, to be able to get in there and just uh let them know they have a uh organization that that loves them for who they are, not what they've done, that just truly cares for um that you know come as you are. Yeah. Right? We truly believe in the principles of the Bible of come as you are, no guilt, no shame. And uh that's one thing our whole organization stands on is that right now. So many of us, you know, whether you've gone on a medical disability or retired or whatever it may be, may be, we struggle with our mental health, we go into isolation, we quit um involving community, we and the enemy attacks us. And our one of our big things that our organization is to get people back out and doing the enjoying things that God's already the interest that He's put in you, whether it's fishing, hunting, um, horseback riding, um, whatever it may be. We we want to get you guys plugged in. And uh Jake helps out with the academy at the Iowa Law Enforcement Academy. He's been helping out this year. And uh what's your thoughts on the on that, Jake? You seem to really enjoy going out there.

SPEAKER_04 10:21

Yeah, I didn't know if I would, which is why I kind of danced around the subject the first few times you asked. But yeah, once I went, especially that those classes that just graduated, that was great. That was rewarding.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Those are probably two of the best classes that as far as engagement.

SPEAKER_04 10:35

I don't know what I thought. I kind of thought maybe there'd be some, you know, I'd get made fun of or something. I don't know. I had some preconceived notions, but it just it was so much better than I expected, and I really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

We all have that trauma from when we were at the academy ourselves. So we just you feel like you're just gonna they're gonna tell you to stand out attention.

unknown 10:53

Yeah.

Faith, Community, And Confidential Support

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Um so we also so we have the equip program that we're gonna be we're gonna be multiplying that and we're gonna and we need more people who um that have been first responders or are a first responder to be able to help out with those. We're constantly looking for volunteers for people to come with us to the academy. Um, we try to do it weekly, um, but we need other first responders to um show up and and feed into this young generation that is that's coming into this line of work just like we all did. And let's give them something that we never have. Let's give them a community, a community of hope. Let's help equip them for the the mental stress that that this job brings to you uh mentally and spiritually. And uh we're gonna really grow that. Um in the podcast, we are going to be um releasing podcasts every two weeks, is what we have planned for right now for 2026. We're gonna start, um, we do have a podcast studio that's being built right now that we're gonna be using that we'll be able to have it set up in there permanently so we can be able we can go there and start pumping out more episodes for you guys. So we may start releasing them a week at a time once we get them built up. But we want your involvement in that. So if you're listening, we want your involvement. Um, what types of episodes do you guys want to hear? This shared voices podcast isn't just for me to share my voice. I want your guys' voice to be shared. You know, we're we get we get so muted from society, and I want to be able to use our first responders and their family members to use their voice to unlock healing and others. Um, so as the podcast grows, we're gonna be doing more live events that like this. Um, we're gonna be doing some live events around the state, hopefully. We're gonna be taking this every once in a while. We'll set it up in different cities where you guys can come um as we grow this out. I think that'll be fun. You guys mind traveling for a little bit?

SPEAKER_03 12:48

I'm all about it.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

Yeah. I bet you cause trouble at a hotel, don't you?

SPEAKER_04 12:54

What would make you think that?

SPEAKER_06 12:57

He means he causes trouble and he's gonna invite you.

SPEAKER_04 13:00

Yeah. Sure, sounds good.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

Um talk to it if you want.

SPEAKER_05 13:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 13:10

Are we talking like pulling the fire alarm or what do you cause trouble at a hotel? What do you what do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 13:14

I don't know. I just have a feeling if we all stay in a hotel together that you might get arrested or something. I don't know. I I think it's illegal to pull the fire alarm.

SPEAKER_06 13:23

It wouldn't be on purpose though. It's not anything he would have planned.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

Yeah. So for programming, um, go over some of the programming I'm missing. My brain's fried. We've been up all day doing this stuff. So um what other programs do we have that's that's coming up?

SPEAKER_06 13:39

Um, those are the main, you know, areas of focus, and then just growing our events and having more opportunities for everyone to get together and spend time with each other, just be in community with each other and have conversation, bring your family, that kind of thing.

The Walk Alone Program In Action

SPEAKER_00 13:56

Yeah, and so one of the main the main programs we have is what we we call it the walk alone program walk alone program. Um, and that is where we're meeting with first responders. Jake does this a lot. Um, when first responders reach out and and they need us to come to to sit in their cycle of suck and their in their storm that they're going through. Um, our walk-alone program is our is where our ambassadors go out and meet with first responders and their family members in the what we call in the trenches, and we sit with them and help them get get their storm calmed, help them get to any type of treatment they need anywhere around the US. And every one of those are a little bit different, Jake, aren't they? Yeah. And and it's it's so it's so refreshing to be able to show up for these people in their worst moments. I wish I would have had that. On the days where you have your mental breakdowns, anxieties, maybe something snaps, you, you know, you just lose your mind and you, you know, maybe you're thinking about hurting yourself or whatever that, give us a call. We are not, you know, call 988 right away if if if it's an emergency. But if you want somebody to talk to that's that's been there, that's done that, you know, we don't have all the answers. Um I'm not a doctor by any means. We are just people who have been there. Uh we'll sit there with you and and help you get through it, through some of your worst times. And and Jake's been there with me, where we've met with a lot of people and some hard moments.

SPEAKER_06 15:21

And and uh so gentry said we should talk about the uh difference between a volunteer and an ambassador and who can who someone can expect to speak with when they reach out. Okay. Um, so uh good point. Thank you, Gentry. So a volunteer is someone that doesn't necessarily need to have been a first responder or is currently a first responder. We've got a a lot of areas and ways that someone can volunteer with us. So they don't you don't need to necessarily have come from you know that world or that community, and there's still a spot for you to to feed into um our first responders and their families, and we definitely appreciate all of that support. Uh our ambassadors, though, that is a role for someone who either is or has been a first responder that way, and an ambassador is somebody that is going to be meeting with the people who do reach out. That way, the person that you're speaking with is someone that has lived what you're going through, you know, and understands because they've been there. The culturally competent. Yep, culturally competent and um, you know, can just really meet you where you are. They've been there and and can sit with you in that.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Yes. And the ambassadors and the walk alone program, it's the the power behind that is the confidentiality behind it. We're sitting with people in really hard times, as Jake knows. And I think that's um one of the amazing things about it is we show up for people and nobody has to know about it. Because I mean, as you know, when we were working, uh so many of us first responders are worried about the administration finding out. And guys, this that's not us. This is 100% confidential. We are not attached to any any department or anything like that. When we show up for you, it's 100% confident or confidence. We are showing up as allies. We are not there to tell you what to do, but to sit in that storm with you and kind of show you all the different options that were out there and calm the storm while you while you go through it. The ambassador program is probably the is the number one program we have is is that because that's what it was for me when on the that's what I would have needed on the days where I was, you know, attempting to take my life and stuff like that would have been somebody's come around who are culturally competent, who aren't there to judge me, but to show up and say, Hey, I'm here with you. I'm here with you, I'm gonna sit with you, it's gonna be okay. We're gonna get through it. And that's what our organization is, it's relationship, it's community. Um, I think that's what drew you to it was the community part of it.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

Yeah, absolutely. Having people that I could relate to and that, you know, have have walked the path before me and and kind of you know can lead me and and give me some feedback. So yeah, that was very important.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Is that what brought you in?

SPEAKER_04 18:17

I knew you were gonna ask me that next. So to be honest, I don't really know. I it just kind of happened. Uh you know, in in a way God was all over your story, man.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

It was it's yours, it's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 18:27

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think God just came and got me. I I wasn't I didn't even know what I was looking for, but I'm glad I found this for sure.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

And guys, if you guys know that as you guys know, if you may or may not know, this is a faith-faith organization. We don't push it on our people, we don't, you know, show up if that's what you don't want. Like a lot of people we work with, um, they don't uh they don't believe, and that's okay. It you don't have to be, but just know that we do. We are we we try to have a heart like Jesus. That's what we try to, we're all trying to do each day. And um, yeah, I don't know what I was saying, I was losing my train of thought.

Live Events, Studio Plans, And Touring

SPEAKER_03 19:00

We're open to to meet people where they're at. And you know, if that's the path that they would like, you know, to follow us down or be led to, then you know, by all means we're we're on it. But like you said, you don't have to be a hundred percent in at that, you know, when you come to us.

SPEAKER_04 19:17

The first time I met with Dan at the end of the meeting, I said, you know what, I I'm I'm on board with all this, but I'm not doing that God thing. Not doing that god thing. I'm not doing that. I was wrong. I'm doing that.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Because again, we don't push it on you. It's just we show up and then things just happen. It's it's it's just amazing, you know. And Jake and I met at a pond. I had him meet me at a pond over by Atlantic, Iowa, and and we we fished, we fished together and we hung out and we talked. And Tyler was there, one of our other ambassadors, and you guys, there's nothing special besides just showing up for people, just showing up for them without judgment, um, to help them out where they are. And that Brianna's also helping with the family resources and the family, this family side of this, because as you guys know, this organization is not just for the first responders. This this career, this type of thing, it's a family, it's a family event. It's a family deal. So we do help spouses. We help um your loved ones. It's um we're gonna be having next year. We're planning, hopefully, next year, we're planning on having three different retreats, uh, men's retreats, one men's retreat, one's woman's retreat, and one marriage retreat for next year. If we can get those three, um, and we'll be getting you guys some dates and stuff for that. But we're gonna try to have each one of those for this next year. And um we need one for the spouses. It seems like there's some stuff out there for the first responders, but uh why do you feel? I mean, you kind of help with the family stuff. Why is that so important?

SPEAKER_06 20:52

Uh well, I think especially for the spouse, because the spouse is especially when the first responder is still in isolation and they don't have their community, the spouse is like the only line of support. And that is is really heavy sometimes, you know. You you need someone that you can talk to um that understands what that's like, but also the the way of carrying that role of like I'm their only person, I'm the only one that's going to be around them, that's going to hear them maybe even mention this thing that they need to talk about. Um, you know, and then just all the other struggles that come come along with that. So, and we get that. So that's why we understand the importance. Like we definitely show up for the spouse as well, and that's important too. And the better we support the spouse, the better the first responder is gonna be supported too.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Yeah, so many of our of our spouses are they're dealing with secondary trauma and they're also walking on eggshells because they don't know what they're gonna say that could trigger you. They don't know what they're gonna say, they don't know what we're gonna be like when we walk in the door. Sometimes we walk in the door and we're happy and silly after a after a shift, and other times you're you're walking in and you're just numb and you snap at everything, snap at everybody. Um it can get ugly, and we're here for that. We're here for your relationships as well. We're here for your marriages, we're here to walk alongside you. Again, not because we have all the answers, just because we will love you through it. And you'll be surrounded with a group of community other spouses that you can talk to that maybe have dealt with it or are dealing with it now, and and really get a lot of help that way.

SPEAKER_06 22:29

And Brianna can really speak to that too. I mean, as a spouse and and what that's like and and you're great because you're very good about uh taking steps for for yourself for your own mental health too.

Family Support, Spouses, And Retreats

SPEAKER_03 22:41

Yeah. Um when you I what you said was all perfect, and I also feel like um a really key thing that seems extremely simple but is very difficult, um, is communication. And so um just knowing how to communicate with my spouse, but also to um let my spouse know what I need from them for them c to communicate to me. Yeah. So I think yeah, it's just and yeah, we need the support because it's a it's a lot of heavy stuff. You're carrying your own weight and then whatever your spouse kind of dumps on you. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

Yeah, right. Half the people we help are spouses. I mean it's it's it's and they're going through a lot.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

Yeah, and uh I mean that's that's your person. That's that person wants you to be well and um cares about you more than anybody else in the world. So yeah.

Clean Water Time: Habits That Heal

SPEAKER_00 23:38

And for the the walk alone program, um, we're gonna be growing, we're gonna be growing that as well. So some when we meet with people, sometimes, well, I would say most times, we try not to meet in like a coffee shop and talk about things right there in public. But we do like to get people back out and doing the things they like out. So a lot of times we'll if somebody's struggling, we'll go meet with them, um, maybe jump in a boat, do some fishing together, um, doing outdoor activities, whatever it may be. Um, we want to be able to grow that across the state as well. So for we're gonna be um having an activities director to help get some of these hunts and fishing trips and some of these outdoor events, more concerts like we did before, get some of these more events going to where we can we can um community together. And with that is we'll be we'll have a list coming out of a lot of stuff we need to be able to do that because as we as we go into this next part for those so those of you that may not know, I want to talk about the three to five year plan and talk about the refuge. Some of you may know about it, but we need to talk about it so people can start praying about it, so everybody knows the vision. Um, but the plan is in in the future is to have hopefully a hundred acres, maybe more. We're praying for more, hopefully, somewhere around the Des Moines area or you know, south of Des Moines somewhere, and beautiful property, um, getting some land donated or getting the funds to to buy the land and actually building a first responder refuge where we'll have a large barn dominion, we'll have an extra uh a building for the education center, where we'll hold our own little conferences and there'll be private rooms in there, and we'll uh bring in counselors and stuff like that. And the whole idea behind the refuge is to allow it to be a place where first responders around Iowa can come to get out of the cycle of suck. They've been involved in officer-involved shooting, whatever it may be. They need some privacy, they need that, or they're just struggling. We're gonna we want to be able to on this property to be able to build a couple ponds back on the property to where people can go access the ponds. Um, we've talked about building some small are they called bun? Are they cottages, bungalows? What do you call them? I mean, we've been calling them cottages, but yeah, putting some cottages, a couple cottages around the ponds and allowing our first responders to be able to come out and utilize those when they want. When you need to get away, when you need to get away from all of it, come down to the refuge. Um also at the refuge, we're we're planning on having like an outdoor uh a Morton building that is full of all of our act, all of our outdoor activity equipment. Meaning um, we're we we're praying for more where we can buy more boats. Um, we want to be able to have out at the refuge when we have a Morton building with all of our activity stuff. So if you and your family um you guys just want to get away and you want to go camping, we want to get it to where you can come out, grab a camper out at the refuge, grab some kayaks, um, grab a trailer, whatever you need to pull it or whatever, where you can just come out and grab what you need to go out and have a good clean water time with your family to spend time um camping, hunting, fishing, whatever you may be. We want to have all those side by sides, all the those types of equipment right there for people to be able to come out and use. Um, because we know that it's tight when you're a first responder, money's tight. And we want to we don't we want to remove those barriers and and to start allowing people to come out and do things with us, but also do things with your family. So we'll the refuge is uh we need some prayer for that.

SPEAKER_05 27:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

What else am I missing on the refuge? We'll be able to hold retreats there. Yeah. Um the barn minion style, or um, you know, we're gonna build, I don't know, how many rooms in there is what we're praying for where we can sleep, you know, 10 to 12 people or so and be able to have our own retreats right there, have our own building to do it in. We'll we can have you mentioned like a conference area too.

SPEAKER_04 27:56

Yeah. Yeah. Some place to have like a speaker.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

Yeah, I think in the yeah, in the educational building, wherever we call it, I think we'll have uh we're praying that we have an area like that where we can have our own speakers, have our own little small conferences, and allow this refuge to be a safe place for people to encounter God, for people to encounter healing, to be around like-minded people, to where and to get I want the refuge to be where we'll have somebody there all the time. To where, I mean, seriously, if you're struggling and it's a Wednesday afternoon at seven o'clock at night, come down to the refuge. Yeah, reach out, call us, come down, stay in a cottage. Um, we want it to be like that. Just because sometimes you don't plan your break, you don't plan when you need a mental break. Sometimes a mental break is needed. Yeah. And we want this refuge to be a place where you can come and it is confidential, it is a safe place where you can be loved on, bring your family, put you up in a nice place and and encounter some healing. We can bring down counselors, we'll have some private rooms and stuff like that. Um, and we're open up, we're open to more ideas, and that's why we want you guys to help us out too. Like, this is not just my organization, it's our organiz, it's our organization. So, what are some ideas you have for the for the refuge? What would you like to see? What programmings would you would you guys like to see? Um, we want to hear from you. We want to know that. Are you wanting more act more outdoor activities, stuff like that? We want to know because we want you guys to be part of this. Um else am I missing on the refuge anything? We won't be able to have horses out there, I don't think.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

I was gonna say maybe a petting zoo, um some alpaca. Um, yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

And out the refuge we'll then have our studio too, like this set up permanently. And uh so yeah, we're very excited about it. So be praying about that. Prayer unlocks everything. Um God first first first showed me this vision of this organization, it was bigger than I could have ever imagined. And it was impossible. But we just kept doing it one step at a time, and we're here we are now, and we're just gonna keep doing that. And God will be faithful, he'll provide. But we also know there's a lot of people that want to give give money to an organization that's changing lives and changing marriages. So if that's you, um reach out to us if you wanna quit. What's that?

SPEAKER_04 30:29

Oh, hot, cold therapy. Yeah, I like that. That'd be good.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

Ice bath. Something workout related. I mean, there's several of you guys that like to there's gonna be a 10-mile running path or something.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

Yeah, there's gonna be we want trails out there because we want people to go out.

SPEAKER_04 30:44

Yeah. Let's do that. Pencil that in.

The Refuge Vision And Three-Year Plan

SPEAKER_00 30:47

Because we talk about clean water time, right? I've you guys heard me talk about this before. Like your life, your jug of life is is this this jug of water or a clear vase of water in front of you. Like that's your life. And then to the left of that is another vase with muddy water. And in this vase of our life, of our clean water, the world's just dumping dark water into it all the time. It's the stuff we're hearing, the stuff we're watching, the things that are happening to us. Usually that dirty water is being dumped in there with things that are out of our control. But then there's also times we're dumping that own dirty water in there. And that dirty water is our life, it's our soul, it's our spirit. And the the power of God is that if you take you help me talk about clean water time. Dark the the dark water time happens to you all the time, but clean water time, you have to be intentional about. If you have a clean vase next to that with clean water and you start dumping that in there, and you keep dumping clean water into your dark vase, that vase will become clear and pure, and that water will be clean again. But clean water, what I call clean water time, time where you spend being um intentional about clean water, that can be for going for a walk, it can be reading a book, it can be working out, it can be anything. Clean water time is it may be putting an earbud in and listening to praise and worship music. It can be going for a walk. But this clean water time is something that has helped me from day one to be able to fight the negative thoughts, Jake, that come in your mind, those default thoughts that just roll in your head all day that you're not worthy, you're not good enough. You know, that when we can dump that clean water in our ears and we can have that positive stuff, if we can get together like this in community, that's clean water time. And clean water time is is something we want to get you guys all involved in. And that can be hunting, it can be fishing, it can be anything like that. Um, Jake, what's your clean water time that you're doing lately? Because I see you're bulking up since because weightlifting is important to you.

SPEAKER_04 32:43

You're assuming this is intentional.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

Or you're getting chubby.

SPEAKER_04 32:48

It's a little of both. Yeah, in the winter time I do a lot, I look I tend to lift more, um, but I alternate lifting, running, working out. Um, you've gotten me back into fishing. I used to fish a lot, but kind of got away from it. That's a that's a great way to do it.

SPEAKER_00 33:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:03

Not so sure on the hunting personally for some some personal reasons right now, but eventually I'll get back to it.

SPEAKER_00 33:08

Yeah, I get that. Especially with first responders and stuff. Sometimes we don't want to hear things that go bang, which is fine, and we don't want to see any more blood. So sometimes hunting and stuff isn't isn't, and that's fine. I totally understand that. What's your clean water time? Do you even get clean water time? You're on she was on the leadership call the other day and she got her holding her baby in one hand. She's just super mom over there. What do you do for clean water?

SPEAKER_03 33:33

Goodness. What do I do? Well, right now I've been um going out to uh Godspeed and writing, um, which I used to write a lot at home. Um, and I'm extremely fortunate that uh Gentry enjoys it so much because it really gets me out there.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

Um What's that do for you?

SPEAKER_03 33:53

Oh, it just It's magical, isn't it? It is. It just brings me so much joy and and um yeah, I will also say I can't believe that I'm going to tell anyone this, but my son and I um have been, he's four years old. We've been cooking dinner together like every night. I've turned from career woman to housewife. I don't know how it happened, my husband either.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Well, you and Jim loved each other very much. And then one night. Oh, sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 34:23

Um I he just said last night he had home cooked meals every night this week. Wow. Yours truly. All right, come on, guys.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

Okay, let's hear it, let's hear it.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

Good job, Brianna.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

Thank you, thank you. Wow, but welcome accomplishment. I know, but while we're cooking dinner, my four-year-old is um dancing to the worship music that I have playing. I love it. Um and so he uh pushes little sister who's in her uh high chair over and says, You're our audience. And uh at eight months old she has to watch and he dances on the counter.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

And now does he does he do this because he's watched Jim do it? Um Jim's not listening, don't worry.

SPEAKER_02 35:05

He might watch it back.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

But uh yes, but no, he loves it, and so we just we sing songs about Jesus and dance away. And we live out in the country so nobody can see us, and that's how it's gonna have to stay.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

So don't drive right Brianna's house, make sure the curtains are closed, they might be dancing in there. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

The baby's the only witness. Yes, she has, and she cannot speak yet.

SPEAKER_04 35:30

So Luke Luke heard that song, I want a hippopotamus for Christmas. Oh gosh. He heard that, he heard that like December 1st, and he's still on that for now. So that's that's what we're doing at our house.

SPEAKER_06 35:42

And that's a rough song to have to listen to on repeat.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

Yeah, yeah, it's like that stupid shark song or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 35:48

I was just gonna say, um, Isla got an octopus that will repeat you and sing the baby shark song. And I'm no shame. I uh returned that thing to Amazon the other day.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

I was gonna say that would get lost pretty quick in the house. Yep. Yeah, so we'd put it in the clay pigeon shooter and shoot that stupid.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

So I'm sorry if you gifted it to us, but um what'd you get with it? Um a gift certificate to Amazon.

SPEAKER_05 36:19

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 36:21

So clean water time can be the uh gentry. I'm just talking about cold, uh what's it called? Cold plunging and stuff. I'm I'm not doing cold plunging, so this is out of my I like I'm not gonna torment myself. Do you do cold plunges? I have. You should give it a shot.

SPEAKER_06 36:34

But how about it? Isn't it torture?

Activities, Trails, And Hot-Cold Therapy

SPEAKER_04 36:36

Yeah, it's uncomfortable for a few minutes, but especially for us with our our damaged brains, it's really good. Really good for your brain.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

She she if she turns the washing machine on in the water, it gets cold in the shower. I don't like it. Alone an ice an ice bath. It'll be good growth for you. There you go. Uh or shrinkage. I don't know. Anyway. Okay, both. So both.

SPEAKER_03 36:57

We'll have the hot tub sauna. They can all ice bath. There we go. Got it.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

What do you do for clean water time? Not that you have much time.

SPEAKER_06 37:05

Right. So, yeah, I was gonna say in some seasons of life, you have more opportunity for chosen clean water time than others. I am very, very busy right now. So my clean water time that I especially that I enjoy so much is I have to I commute to and from my day job. And so my time alone in the car is what I use for my clean water time. And every morning on my way to work, I listen to the Bible. I love it so much. And to be honest, when I first started it, so know this about clean water time. Maybe when you first start, it it might sound boring a little bit. And full disclosure, when I first started that, I thought I'm just doing this out of love for God, not looking forward to it. But I love it. It's my favorite thing now. I love it so much, it refreshes me. And I have to start my morning that way, and it just sets my whole day off right. I love it very much, and I find that it also helps to like just live that out day to day because like that's what I'm filling my myself with every morning. And then on my way home every day, because there are no witnesses, I sing worship music at the top of my lungs, and it's glorious.

SPEAKER_00 38:12

I'll get a camera in there so we can watch it.

SPEAKER_04 38:14

No, I do that, I do the same thing, and I would hate if someone recorded it.

SPEAKER_06 38:18

So I actually look around. If any driver's looking at me, I immediately stop.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

See, I don't care. I just love I let my freak flag freak flag fly, man.

SPEAKER_04 38:27

You're you see me at home.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

I'm always dancing or doing weird.

SPEAKER_04 38:30

You're also going about 70 miles an hour over the limit, and so no one can see you. Good point.

SPEAKER_06 38:36

No one's gonna be able to stay next to you long enough to witness anything you do.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

I don't know why I drive like that.

SPEAKER_06 38:41

I do it came in handy when I was a cop, though, man.

SPEAKER_00 38:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:44

I can read it.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

My dad's in the audience, he's been with me on the drug task force, man. We've been in some good, good uh chases and runs out. Man, I've had my dad out there. He when I was working narcotics, he loved to come when I was working narcotics. We'd go out when people were cooking meth and stuff because we were doing surveillance, man. We'd come out and him and I would and our team would sit out there and all black with our assault rifles and dad laying out there with us watching these people cook and we'd take them down and and uh he spent a lot of late nights out there doing that kind of stuff with us. It was a lot of fun, man.

SPEAKER_04 39:12

It was a lot of fun. My dad came from one ride along and asked me to drop him off at his car after three hours.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

My dad wanted didn't want to go home. I think one time he said, Give me the shotgun. I was surprised he didn't have his own. That's awesome. I liked having riders. I liked having some family members and friends come and and uh I always showed him a good time, especially when I work narcotics.

SPEAKER_04 39:34

Yeah, yeah, it depends on the person. But yeah, if you if you choose to bring them with, it's it's a different experience for sure.

SPEAKER_00 39:40

My dad shows up with comedy jokes and commando ready to go.

SPEAKER_04 39:46

Uh a friend of mine, another cop, brought his dad and uh and uh got involved in a foot chase and his dad just went with, like just hopped out of the car with him, ran along the sideway. What do you think, dad?

SPEAKER_00 39:58

You doing that? You just get in the passenger you just get in the passenger seat of my patrol car that I ran out of and drive in it. Gentry, you clean water time. Yeah, shout it out over there. I know your uh gentry is I talked to her the other day. Or we met up. I don't even remember what it was. What time of day it was, and she had already ran a half marathon. What time of day was it? Yeah. She'd already ran a half marathon.

Stories, Joy, And Choosing Life

SPEAKER_06 40:31

Got up at four and ran.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

I am a lot more likely to still be awake at 4 a.m. than I am to be getting up at 4 a.m.

SPEAKER_00 40:41

You're a nighthawk though. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I saw your post the other day about that. There's a lot of truth to that. With ADHD people like myself, like the world is so loud during the day. Yeah. That it can be hard to get things done. Yeah. But at night, it's you have it to yourself.

SPEAKER_05 40:56

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 40:56

That's my life. That's why my alarm gets snoozed for an hour and a half every morning. So what time does Jake wake up? I'm usually I'm I mean I have to get up with my kids by like seven, seven thirty. Ten kids anyway. I think they can get themselves ready, but I've told them, but they don't listen. I mean they're five and two. In their defense. It should be further along by now if you ask me. No, I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 41:21

We all should be. Um, but clean water time. Find out what your clean water time is. Be creative.

SPEAKER_06 41:28

Um try different things.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

I saw you one time. You she is it okay? I don't know what you're gonna say. You had like an adult collaring book thing that was like therapeutic. Yes. To just sit and like flowers, yeah, and just to get your mind off of that that vicious cycle that can be strapped in your head.

SPEAKER_06 41:49

Yeah. Painting is a good one, especially if you're a perfectionist, because there is no such thing as getting art perfect. So you're gonna have to let that go.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

Yeah, you definitely have to get outside your comfort zone for some if you want to go adventure some new clean water time.

SPEAKER_04 42:03

I don't I don't think art will be it for me.

SPEAKER_06 42:06

Art Are you a perfectionist?

SPEAKER_04 42:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:08

Okay, we're gonna have to try one time.

SPEAKER_04 42:11

So you know what? I did I went on vacation last last week. Yeah, last week. Yeah, you got back to Colorado to my in with my in-laws and my wife and kids, and and I did some coloring.

SPEAKER_06 42:20

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:21

So we'll call that good for a while.

SPEAKER_06 42:22

How did it go?

SPEAKER_04 42:23

Can we see it?

SPEAKER_00 42:24

You got a picture on your phone?

SPEAKER_04 42:25

I left it there. I lost it immediately. Um what'd you draw, Jake? What'd you color it? It was just it was like uh uh a mountain scene. We were in the mountains, it was like a mountain like wilderness scene.

SPEAKER_03 42:37

Yeah, like you drew it out and colored it.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

No, I just colored it. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. My wife and sister-in-law like to do that, so I I joined in. It was alright.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

It was all right. Yeah. That's all right. You help out with plants. Your wife loves plants. Do you help out with that kind of stuff? No. Plants aren't your thing? No.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

She doesn't make you like help dig the holes and stuff.

SPEAKER_04 42:56

She doesn't allow me to. I offer, but I won't do it right. She won't let me water them because I won't give them the right amount of I shouldn't I shouldn't go off too hard on this because this is being recorded. But it we have I live in a jungle, but I'm recorded.

SPEAKER_03 43:10

House plants?

SPEAKER_04 43:11

Yeah, I'm not allowed to interact with any of them because I will do it wrong, which is okay. I don't really want to do it, but I do try I do try to offer, you know.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

But let but yet she lets you raise the kids. Right.

SPEAKER_03 43:24

Okay, I'm a plant junkie also. Um, I got grow lights as one of my Christmas gifts.

SPEAKER_04 43:29

Oh, we'll go to the house.

SPEAKER_03 43:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:33

Um, we have a grow operation in our basement. If a cop were to from like the 90s were to look through there, there'd be a search warrant written for sure.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

Hello. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

Again, nobody lives up by us. I do enjoy when like Jim and I are out driving around and you do see all the grow lights in the light or in houses at night. Um, that's not at my house. Um they are legal plants that we're growing. Um, but yeah, and uh my kidn joins in on it now. Every morning he uh surprises me by turning on the grow lights.

SPEAKER_04 44:09

So see, I go around at night and turn them off because they bother they bother me.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

I I do set timers on them.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

And that's why your wife doesn't let you touch them, Jake.

SPEAKER_04 44:18

She doesn't know I do that. So now she does. Let's cut that out. She's not watching right now. Let's get it out of it.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

Gentry calls his wife real quick. Get her on the get her on the line.

SPEAKER_04 44:27

It has to do with what we were just talking about, though. I want it to be, you know, nighttime's my time. And if everything's bright, you know, it kind of ruins it. So it's not about the plants, it's about me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:38

Yeah, Jake's doing coaching now. Jake's doing some coaching now. And and guys, that's what that's what's awesome. Like the the best part about getting getting help and getting better. You know, we talk about it in you know, that God talks about it when he says he comforts us so we can comfort others. Um there's power in in in in reaching out and getting help and getting yourself around a group of people who love you and to start enjoying life again. I lived without joy for years. I lived without happiness for years. I was numb. And I know there's some of you listening right now that are feeling the same way. It can be hard to even laugh right now, or it can be hard to cry. And we understand that. We have hard days, we have good days, and that's what's magical about this organization is we give each other grace. A lot of organizations can can you can come to them and get help, and you know, if you do something wrong or you go back to drinking or whatever it may be, they can, they can, they can, you know, shoo you away. That's not us. We will not do that. We don't give up on people. We don't give up on people. We want to help you get to some clean water time. Um, help you find some new some new hobbies, some new things you can do to have that clean water time. I I do want to do. Will you skydive if I get a group together and go skydive? You'll skydive. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:56

You know, that's that's on my bucket list.

SPEAKER_00 45:58

I do want to get a group of first responders. Um anybody knows uh one of those jumping places. I'm um do a donation to our organization, so we can come do that with a group of first responders. I don't know if I I will go up in the plane. You you're probably gonna have to push me out, which you will you would enjoy that.

SPEAKER_06 46:14

He's like, got it.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

Yeah. But you'd be in, cool. Gentry, are you are you would you jump out of a plane?

unknown 46:19

I'm highly medicated and you shove me out.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

She was pretty wide-eyed about I'm not so sure about that.

SPEAKER_06 46:29

Face it absolutely not.

SPEAKER_03 46:31

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:32

Well, sometimes the best way to feel alive is to almost die to do things that are I think, and I think that's why a lot of first responders do so many high adrenaline.

SPEAKER_03 46:40

I was gonna say, when um Jim and his brother both came back from um Afghanistan and you're still that chasing that adrenaline, they both uh jumped out of a plane.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

You gotta feed it. You have to feed it, especially as a first responder, because you're dealing with you have your dopamine going all the time, your adrenaline going all the time. And when you get out of it and that that is shut off and you're used to it every day, it's do you still chase it this many years later? I do. I I I tell you what, you know, you guys know I wanted to die all those years. Now I spend every day trying to live, and I know where I'm going if something happens to me. And I just want to enjoy life. I want to enjoy life with my wife and my kids, and I want to get out of my comfort zone. I want to do things I haven't done before. I spent all those years, you know, in isolation and and destroying myself. And and by the grace of God, he he saved me and restored me. And I want to I want to do something new every day. I want to talk to somebody new every day. Um, I used to always spend my life wanting to die, and now I just want to live. Not for me, but for the Lord, and to be able to help bring calm and peace to other people's first other first responders' lives, like that's what it's about. And that's that's why our organization and the ambassadors and everything are so important is this community right here. We're all different people from different walks of life. And I promise you, not one person up here thought years ago, when they were going through all their hurt and all their pain, none of us thought we'd be up here talking on a podcast, talking about some of our worst moments in our life, Jake. The secrets we used to keep to ourselves, or within our you want to know them all?

SPEAKER_04 48:19

Is that what you're asking? Yeah, starting up with number one. Start with the worst one first, and then work your way. No, I didn't think I'd even be here, let alone doing something like a podcast.

SPEAKER_00 48:28

Yeah. And it's just an act of courage. Every day, just try to get up and and and do something to get out of your comfort zone. Because you're there's no growth in your comfort zone. There's nothing there. It's gonna be the same day, groundhog day, every day, all day. And it's gonna feel uncomfortable when you first start doing these things. You may feel like a knucklehead or you may feel like it's silly, but this hey, it don't matter. This is about you getting out, enjoying life, enjoying your family. So this week, try to find the courage to do something new. Try to find a clean water opportunity and go for it. And you know what's better than doing it by yourself? Do it with somebody, do it with another first responder. Have your have your spouse there with you. Um, what were you saying the other day that the best way people connect? It was through, do you know what I'm talking about? And you said creating something together.

SPEAKER_06 49:20

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I was because I was listening to a podcast and and the guy was talking about that, like um relationships and building connection and relationships. And he was talking about how so many people, especially uh spouses and couples, they they just watch TV together. He's like, which is the lowest form of connection because you're just existing in the same room watching the same box. And um, and he talked about different really good ways to connect, and it was like to do something new together, to create something together and to serve other people together.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

So it's the togetherness that brings the relationship together when doing that, and I would agree with that. Yeah. Like you, you and I this organization and doing that together, that's been pretty awesome. I love that we do it together. I love that we have from day one because doing that with you as is the my greatest joy. Yeah, and we figure it out together. That's just like this. You know, we just figure it out. Uh, you hear me say all the time, you can't learn how to drive a car by reading a book. We just go out with it, the courage of this team, we just go out and we do it. And and we just want you guys to try that because there's so much.

SPEAKER_06 50:26

And it's really it's really special to get to watch your spouse feed into somebody else.

SPEAKER_00 50:31

Yeah. So give me uh give me three clean clean water times that you that you have. We did painting. You and I, we have you done couples painting. We went and did that one time. That was fun.

SPEAKER_06 50:42

The painting classes, you did so good.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

We painted snowmen together. I was just gonna ask, were you each on like each side and painted each other?

SPEAKER_06 50:49

Or oh no, yeah, it was yeah, like you got to pick what they were gonna teach you how to paint.

SPEAKER_00 50:53

Yeah, she doesn't let me paint her in public. No, no, that's uh Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

You took okay, yeah. I I should have known. Welcome to Daniel. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

Um, so yes, we're getting ready to close out here. We got about um eight minutes left.

SPEAKER_03 51:11

Um can I say I when you talk about that, um I would say that with this organization and where I'm at now, that I feel like to bring this full circle to your your clean water is that I have a vase full of clean water at this point. And so yeah, sometimes I need to filter it out, but I feel like I'm at a a place where I can if somebody else needs some clean water in their vase, like I can pour into other people's cups. And and I would not have gotten to that or wouldn't be where I'm at now without this organization and having, you know, you and Christina to do that for me and and whatnot. So yeah, I think it's it's finding people to to support you and yeah. So and outside of I mean outside of your spouse, I feel like also is having those people to connect with and take their perspectives, learn from them, their resources, and bring that back to my marriage. It's been beneficial. Yeah, very good point.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Because it's the isolation that kills. And it's it's the it's the isolation, the the not being in community, the not doing stuff together that got a lot of us to where we ended up in very bad places. So our organization is very big on community and getting people involved.

unknown 52:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

All right, before we wrap up, I miss anything? Anything you want to go over? Um I'm excited for 2026. If you're listening, send us an email, reach out to us, Dan at 10-42project.org. If you would like to get involved, we do we do have some volunteers that we still have to get back to, and we are working getting through those, but we need we need help, we need involvement because to do all this is gonna take funding. Yeah, it's gonna take people, it's gonna take time, talent, and treasure. And we need all of our, we need everybody's help, all the all the everybody across the state of Iowa. Let's come together, let's build this organization up, um, not just for today, but for tomorrow. Because what what we do here is too important. We got people that are in really bad crisis situations, we got people that are trying to take their lives, we got marriages falling apart, and for this team to be able to show up is amazing. We're gonna keep multiplying that and we're gonna be adding more people to our team because it matters. It matters not just to the for to the first responders, it matters to their family, it matters, it matters to their agencies because when we have a healthy first responder that's that's that's healthy, um, everything's gonna go smoother. So dire at least send us an email. And I feel like I'm forgetting something as soon as we get off here, I'll forget. Jakey, have anything on the clothes, buddy? Any last word you want to tell anybody?

SPEAKER_04 53:55

I think no, I think this has been great. I'm excited for 2026.

SPEAKER_00 53:59

Cool. Anything?

SPEAKER_03 54:01

No, you did good. The merch store is gonna be open again. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:06

Go with it. Yeah. The merch store, the merch store, some of you may have some shirts on stuff right now.

SPEAKER_06 54:12

So the merch store, these shirts, is it open or it's gonna it's gonna be open, but new stuff's gonna be added to it. So yeah, we have to definitely look out for that.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

Yep, we have some new stuff coming in on the merch store, and that'll be open. Or it is open.

Hope, Identity, And Closing Blessing

SPEAKER_06 54:29

No, it's not open, it's not open, it will be open. Look for our Facebook and we'll send it. Well, it's open, but the new stuff hasn't been added, so there's not like a live link.

SPEAKER_00 54:38

Okay, but we'll be posting that on Facebook. We'll be sending that out on the uh the newsletter. So if you're not signed up, go to our website 10-42project.org, get signed up for the newsletter. That's going to be sending you all the information about when we do recordings, updates, events. Um, also go to our all of the social media, smash the like button, hit the follow button. Um, the more of you that share this, um, that comment on this, it really helps spread the word um through the computer algorithms and all that kind of stuff. Um, and share it. Send it to people. You never know what could have been set up here today or in in any of the 50-some episodes in the past. Jump on there and listen. I think God's got a word for you in there. I think there's a there's a message of hope for for you in there, and allow that to just just help uh transform you. Yeah, so check that out, go to the website. Otherwise, I think this went okay for our first one. Yeah, we're happy. Gentry's got a smile. All right, thank you, Gentry. Seriously, I uh truly appreciate the team here, and we hope you guys enjoyed this. Let us know what we can do better. Um, next time we're hoping to have more cameras involved, and uh we're working our way there. We're working our way there, and we want to have some of these around the state. So join us. We love you guys. Remember, you're not what you've done. What you did is not who you are. That's just something that you did. Doesn't matter what it is, no matter where you are, you're not too far down, you're not too far, too far what you consider lost or broken. You are you are never too far away. Um, God's got a hand that can reach you too, and God uses people, and God uses broken people because that's all He has. So let's be those people. All right. We love you guys and see you next time.