#167: Don't Execute Your Children

In which Lauren & Mattias teach how to raise children with ADHD and/or autism. They review their recent movie night films and discuss various topics such as the majority of us wanting to leave and choosing what food to wear.

Content:

• Opening
  • Party
• Weekly check in
  • Robot vacuums
• Movie on!
  •  The Waterboy
  • Get Carter
• Intermission
• How to raise children with ADHD and/or autism
  • How to survive school mornings
  • Difference between kids being kids & kids on the spectrum
• Wrap up
• What's ruining our lives

Chapters

• 0:06 Rambling Warm-Up And Improvised Intro
• 2:22 Finally A Proper Show Open
• 6:20 Weekly Life Updates And Robot Vac Talk
• 10:32 Movie Night: The Waterboy Review
• 10:41 Weather, Dates, And Family Juggling
• 14:43 Movie Night: Get Carter And Editing Debate
• 20:44 Break And Health Check-In
• 22:53 The Heavy Turn: Parenting Stress
• 24:46 ADHD And Autism 101
• 28:14 Talk So Kids Can Hear You
• 33:59 Routines, Sensory Supports, And Calm
• 38:13 Discipline That Teaches
• 41:05 Mornings: Ten Rules To Reduce Chaos
• 55:27 Testing, Labels, And Family History
• 1:03:04 What’s Ruining Your Life
• 1:06:29 Listener Mail And Running Jokes

Transcript

Rambling Warm-Up And Improvised Intro

SPEAKER_00 0:05

In a world where everything is unscripted, this is roasty, toasty, roasty.

SPEAKER_03 0:15

Are you ready?

SPEAKER_00 0:16

I'm as ready as I can be.

SPEAKER_03 0:18

Alright, let's um ramble a little bit. Okay. For a second.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Yeah, we haven't rambled enough.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

No, but this is like the the the after ramble? After the ramble. Okay. The after ramble after the ramble.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Okay. This is like the after talk, you know, where the after party. Yeah, the commentaries. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:42

After you've got like the pre-party, and then you've got the after party after the pre-party. Okay. And then you've got the actual party.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Yeah, we'll get there.

SPEAKER_03 0:52

Eventually.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

Yeah. But we usually don't have an after party, you know. After after the party.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

No. Sometimes, but it's not that often. Well, because a lot of us just want to leave.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Yeah, we usually. Yeah, a lot of us.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

The majority of us want to leave.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10

This is a party that no one really wants to be at. We're all just trying to get out.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

The majority of two people.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

Yeah. Which is like at least one and a half of us. Like, I kind of want to go, but this is kind of fun then at the same time. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

I have want to leave.

SPEAKER_03 1:28

Alright, well, let's open this up then.

unknown 1:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:32

So close. Yeah. It's not quite.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:36

Let's not sleep tonight.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

You know what? I'm sorry. I want things to like flow a little bit better because it feels like I've got all these like sticky notes and they're all over the place. I just want to put them in order. Okay?

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:50

So that it just goes smoothly. Like puzzle pieces.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Sticky notes in your head? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:56

Not physical.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

The ones behind my glasses. Oh. The ones that I see here. Okay. My my fancy glasses.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

Yeah. Do I have one on me?

SPEAKER_03 2:07

Yeah, it's it's sticking out of the mouth of your face. Oh, yeah. Your forehead mouth.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Hey, you forehead mouth.

Finally A Proper Show Open

SPEAKER_03 2:17

Yo. Forehead mouth. Alright. Hello and welcome to Roasty Toasty Ghosty, the podcast in which you will learn nothing at all. Because that's where that part is supposed to go.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

My name is Lauren.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

And I am Matias.

SPEAKER_03 2:35

And we're gonna be your besties for the next hour or so.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:39

Better, right? Yeah. You put the pizzas together and it's it's all good.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Yeah, almost sound professional.

SPEAKER_03 2:47

Almost. We're working on it. Yeah, we'll get it 167 episodes later, and we kind of have an intro.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

If only we could get to it a little bit quicker.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Yeah, and I don't think we're ever gonna remember to do it like that again.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

No, but I'd like to.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 3:07

We've been doing this for like three years.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

That's cool. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

A couple months later, just hit me. We've been doing this for like three years. We've had a three-year episode.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

We yeah, we had one.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

We did. Yeah. That one time.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

I remember that.

SPEAKER_03 3:25

When we celebrated three years. Yeah. That was cool.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

I remember it like it was a few months ago.

SPEAKER_03 3:35

Like it was three years ago.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Yeah. So we're on our sixth year?

SPEAKER_03 3:43

No, it's only been three years.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

It was deja vu. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

Okay, so like the first episode, I'm like, we've been doing this for three years.

SPEAKER_03 3:54

We've been doing this for three years. But are we gonna learn something today? I believe we are going to be saving lives today. This is the episode in which we're gonna save someone's life.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

That's cool.

SPEAKER_03 4:06

It'll be your turn next week.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

My life.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Your life. We'll save your life next week.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

You're welcome. In advance.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

Yeah, this week I'm doomed.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

Well, you've got a week to stress.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:20

And uh you do. You're gonna be freaking out all week. Trust me. Okay. It's fun. It's all a fun game.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

Yeah. It's gonna be a thrill. The time of your life.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:35

Is that dirty dancing?

SPEAKER_00 4:37

I believe so.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

You're gonna be doing that all week.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

I'm gonna be Patrick Swayze.

SPEAKER_03 4:42

Dirty dancing.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

Yeah, lifting gals left and right.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

Yep. Throwing them away.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Yeah. And uh tell people that you don't put baby in a corner.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

And then you throw them in the corner.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

You don't. I do.

SPEAKER_03 5:01

No one said you could do this.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

That's my job.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

Matias. Yes. Was your week super boring?

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Kinda, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

How was your week?

SPEAKER_03 5:11

My week. I don't know. I feel like things are a little hectic right now. I have been picking up a lot of uh slack at home. Okay. A lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

And then putting them down and putting them back where they belong.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Uh for some reason I thought you would say, I've been picking up a lot of kids. That too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:33

Pick them up and put them back down. Somewhere else where they're supposed to be.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Just yours or other people's?

SPEAKER_03 5:41

Uh both yeah, yeah. Other people's as well. That's my job.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

That's that's my favorite job.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Uh yeah, that's bullying kids.

SPEAKER_03 5:51

Bullying kids, telling them to do better, and uh throwing them.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

Yeah. Uh a highlight of my week would be well, I had something. Oh yeah. We got a new robot vacuum.

SPEAKER_02 6:07

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:08

Which is I'm an adult. This is the highlight of my week.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

Yeah.

Weekly Life Updates And Robot Vac Talk

SPEAKER_03 6:11

I got a new toy. Um, it's it's a black lady, and her name is Janice Moplin. Yeah. And I am giving you this right here. This is back damn. My my white man vacuum.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:29

For a white man. That's Hume. And he's gonna get some surgery, some transplants done, and then he's all yours.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

Which is fitting because it's kind of a funny story. You did buy him.

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_03 6:45

It was a funny misunderstanding, I think. Because I think, well, when I asked you for money to buy this robot vacuum, the white one, I think I was like half joking, half not joking. Like, I'm okay either way if you buy this for me.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

And you ended up doing it.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:06

And then it became a a big drama fast here. And uh, well, we all got used to it.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:13

And I think that um he will serve you well.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

The robot vacuum that you bought.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

Thank you. You're welcome. You tested him.

SPEAKER_03 7:23

I did for a while, and I used up his parts.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:26

Okay, so sorry. This is not what I meant. I used up backdam's parts, and they have to be replaced. It's that bad.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

Yeah. Needs some surgery.

SPEAKER_03 7:41

Yeah, yeah. Uh transplant.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Yeah. Okay, so I can get a white male.

SPEAKER_03 7:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

And I am a white male. And you have a black lady, but you're not a black lady.

SPEAKER_03 7:53

I'm not.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

No. That's observation.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

I don't like how this feels saying that I have a black lady cleaning things for me.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

No, that's not good.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

She's not a real woman.

SPEAKER_00 8:06

It is she doesn't get paid.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

A robot with a female voice, and she happened to be black colored. Yeah. I didn't I didn't decide that.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

She doesn't get paid.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

She doesn't get paid.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 8:21

She does get water though.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

Okay, that's nice.

SPEAKER_03 8:25

She drinks water. Uh, and then she mops.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

So. Yeah. Black cleaning lady.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Yeah. And she wipes it up after herself.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

A black cleaning lady that doesn't get paid. Great. That sounds good.

SPEAKER_03 8:41

She gets water though.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Yeah, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

What more could she want?

SPEAKER_00 8:46

I don't know. I hope you'll be happy with your black lady.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

So far, I'm satisfied. Yes. Good. I've had her for a few days now, and I'm happy. Good. Today is Friday. It is. Today is February 6th. February 6th. Fabu Baby is that month where we can't pronounce the month. Fabo Baby.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

6.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

It's a difficult month to say, and that's my month. Yeah. Why do I have to be born in the most difficult month?

SPEAKER_03 9:22

It's a short month and it's difficult to pronounce the month.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of things that are difficult this month. The weather is also kind of difficult because it's usually snowy and chilly.

SPEAKER_03 9:38

It's been negative degrees Celsius all week. Again. Sick child knows that it's cold due to experience.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

But refuses to dress better in the morning. So yeah. And I think I'm gonna bring this up later. Okay. As well.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

Because my week has been difficult parenting-wise.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

My point was is that is February 6th.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

2026.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

That's also true.

SPEAKER_03 10:09

Crazy that it's been a new year.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

It was a while ago, but it didn't feel like New Year's. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

I saw one firework.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

Yeah, I didn't even see it.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

It didn't even I mean, that's usually how you know. It's New Year's. Yeah. And that like didn't even happen, so it didn't it hasn't processed in my head that it's been a new year. Anyway, we watched movies.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

We did.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

Would you like to move on?

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Let's move on.

Weather, Dates, And Family Juggling

SPEAKER_03 10:35

Alright. Uh tonight we watched The Waterboy and Mm Mr. Carter. Jack.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

Get Carter. Yeah. Carter Carter. Car Carter.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

Get Carter. Get Carter. And so you can tell me about The Waterboy.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

Okay. So this movie stars Adam Sandler. And uh other people are also in this one. Like Henry Winkler and Kathy Bates and Rob Schneider and other people. Did I miss someone?

SPEAKER_03 11:12

Todd Holland.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

Whoever that is.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:16

But he was there.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

Yeah, he was. We looked him up.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

We didn't.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

He didn't have a picture on IMDB, though. So I'm assuming nobody really knows who he is.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

No, I guess not.

SPEAKER_03 11:27

Shout out to that guy.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

Yeah. This movie is directed by Frank Karazzi. Oh fun fact.

SPEAKER_03 11:35

I don't know how you say it. No. But uh he directed Around the World in 80 Days. I bet you did not know that.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

I did not. I'm not a movie nerd or anything like that.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

You did know.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Okay, yes, I did.

SPEAKER_03 11:47

I I recognized his name.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

I get something there.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Yeah. Very cool.

SPEAKER_03 11:53

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

So this movie is about American football. Again.

SPEAKER_03 11:58

Woo! Football.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Yeah. The second week in a row.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

With the Adam Sandler playing football.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

How many more Adam Sandler football movies are there?

SPEAKER_00 12:10

I don't I don't think there are more, but I'm not sure. Okay. Either. But not that I know of. Alright. In this movie, he's a water boy and he likes water. His mom is very overprotective. She doesn't like him doing anything. She just wants him to be with her all the time.

SPEAKER_03 12:33

I'm not I'm not smiling. I'm not laughing or anything.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

No, that's good. You shouldn't laugh at that.

SPEAKER_03 12:38

No, no, no, no, no. It's very, very serious. Should be taken seriously.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Uh okay, so he should have listened to last week's episode because he did not tell bad news in a good way, I would say. Probably not. Because he kind of just screamed at her and threw it all right in her face.

SPEAKER_03 13:02

That's what we specifically said not to do.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

So yeah, it didn't go over too well. He also likes a girl and then he starts playing uh American football because he uh gets mad at people and tackles them and the coach like that. Um yeah, that's kind of what the movie's about. I don't know. D did I miss anything?

SPEAKER_03 13:25

No, it sounds pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

What did you think about this movie?

SPEAKER_03 13:29

I like this movie. It's Adam Sandler. So I I like a lot of his movies. I like uh his style and his humor.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:39

Yeah. I yeah, most of the time.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:42

And uh yeah. It was a good movie. I liked it. I've never seen it before. Okay. Which is crazy because I like Adam Sandler. And I mean, I I probably have seen like clips or something if it was playing on TV or something. I might have seen a little bit. But yeah, not the entire thing. What about you?

SPEAKER_00 14:00

Uh I do like this movie. I also have a little bit of a problem with his voice. You know, the thing he does with that talking like that. You know, it's just a nitpick. I I still think the movie's really funny and all, you know, but uh it's just that voice is just a little bit annoying and uh a little bit forced.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

A little exaggerated, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Yeah, that too. So yeah, but that's maybe just me.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

Still like I don't think it's just you.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

No, no. But I mean between the two of us, maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 14:35

Okay. Yeah. Anything else?

SPEAKER_00 14:37

I don't think I have anything else. But I I did like the movie.

Movie Night: Get Carter And Editing Debate

SPEAKER_03 14:41

Good. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

Do you want me to tell you about Get Carter? Yeah. That's what it is. Alright, then I'm gonna tell you. Yeah. Right. This is a movie with Stallone. I didn't recognize any of the other people, so but he was there. And he is somewhat of a detective.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:06

It's like a mystery story. Someone killed his brother, and he's looking for revenge, and he's gotta figure out who it was and why. Um and he beats up some bad guys.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:22

And stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's my bad summary.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:27

What did you think about the movie?

SPEAKER_00 15:29

I have to say that I think it's an okay movie.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

I don't love it.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Uh what don't you love?

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Uh the editing.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

Because I mean, I don't really like the way uh it shifts at uh certain points and the jump cuts like in a scene he's there and then he's not, and you know, the it's like can't it's it's like they cut between him standing here and then there. Like uh can't you just show him walking there? Or is it for saving time? Is it well I I don't understand the but I feel like this is a thing with the early 2000s movies. That's why I don't I'm not a big fan of the uh 2000s, you know, at the beginning of 2000. I don't know uh w what people were thinking back then, because I'm I'm like uh I don't really like that style. Also, it's kind of dark.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

It's a dark movie. It's I mean the theme is pretty dark.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Yeah, yeah, that's true. But I mean that's okay. I I don't mind that as much. It's the editing that bothers me. Some things I didn't really understand what happened. You know, the guy he was fighting on the dance floor. What happened to that guy after that? Because that's the last we see of him, I think. I thought he would be like a bad guy and then then it's like okay, he knocked him down.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

In a way it was a letdown. But I guess the movie is okay anyway. I I don't know. What did you think about this movie?

SPEAKER_03 17:09

I also wanted to bring up the editing because I thought that it re represented uh the mood pretty well.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Uh, because that's kind of like that shaky feeling. That's kind of how I feel when like I have high adrenaline when I'm like doing something that I wouldn't normally do.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:33

Like, I don't know, uh, possibly start conflict.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

Just not something I usually would do. But if I feel like it's necessary not necessary, necessary, ne necessary, then I'll do it. But that's kind of like the shaky feeling that I would get.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

And like vision kind of goes a little weird.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

But um visually, for someone who's not actually going through those emotions, I can imagine it's or I mean, like, no, I I saw it as well that it was like really weird.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

But I I could relate to the editing.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

So you like the editing?

SPEAKER_03 18:11

I can relate.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

But it it is a little weird for the eyes. Yeah. Yeah. And the the cutting as well is I I agree with you on that part.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Yeah. And also, I mean, when you mention the shaky cam, I think the shaky cam is one of the worst things they did for film. I I never liked shaky cam on film.

SPEAKER_03 18:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

And uh yeah, especially in like action scenes and stuff. Because I want to see what's happening. That's that's why I like Jackie Chang, because he he shows clearly, everything is clear, you know, see exactly what's happening. But this in the action scenes I I I didn't have a problem, but uh it was more like uh other scenes.

SPEAKER_03 18:59

I guess it worked well with uh I mean uh Shaky Cam uh uh when he got really angry and like the his heart is pounding and everything, like he he's gonna destroy someone.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

Yeah. Yeah. Um Michael Cain is in this movie.

SPEAKER_03 19:17

Oh, I guess so.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

It was in Victory from last week.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

Mm-hmm. That was that.

SPEAKER_03 19:23

I'm gonna say I like the movie though.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

Okay. You liked it better than me, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

I think so. Yeah, I think I missed the beginning a little bit, so I started off like what's going on. But yeah, yeah, it was good.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Also, it kind of reminded me of Payback with Mel Gibson, the movie where he's shot by the guy he's working with. They steal some money and he wants his what is it like$72,000 back. He I mean I feel like uh he's out for revenge. It's also this dark filter to the movie as well. And I I felt like it it feels like they wanna make another payback.

SPEAKER_03 20:10

Yeah. But it was uh uh it's a remake.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Remake. Yeah, of a movie from 1971 with Michael Caine in lead role, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

So he has a supporting role in this one, yeah. But kind of fun that they bring back the guy from the original.

SPEAKER_03 20:29

Yeah, is that all? Yeah, all right. Would you like to take a break?

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Let's take a break.

SPEAKER_03 20:33

We'll be right back.

Break And Health Check-In

SPEAKER_00 20:34

Yes. We're back. We're back. Hello.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

Hello, how are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 20:49

How are you doing? No, no, I'm I I'm just copying you. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

I'm I'm I don't like when people do that.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

Okay, I'm sorry. Uh I'm doing well.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

How are you?

SPEAKER_03 21:02

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

I'm good. I'm better than last week.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

And now you're getting worse.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

I'm worse than last week, but uh I don't think I'm getting worse. I think I had my worst.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

I hope so, at least.

SPEAKER_03 21:19

Um, I went to my first workout yesterday. It's been a while since I've done any exercise.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

Workout.

SPEAKER_03 21:28

Yeah, I went and did some strength in group training.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

And uh I felt it all night.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:38

And all day.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:40

Yeah. So it's time to get back on that.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

Yeah. I did some heavy liftings last weekend. And I felt that during the week, like at least uh Monday and Tuesday. And that tells you how often I do. Strength.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

We're gonna get back to it though.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

The heavy lifting?

SPEAKER_03 22:04

Uh at least some exercising.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Yeah, yeah, I think we are.

SPEAKER_03 22:08

I feel it coming. Yeah. This this is our year. We cannot repeat last year. We have to get back to wherever we were the year before that. Yeah, we can then do better.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Yeah, we kind of screwed it up, you know. The end. Well being uh in the states really well that didn't help.

SPEAKER_03 22:30

No, that uh not like we were making a huge effort throughout the year.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

No, no. Anyway. But you know, the states trip that's uh what it skyrocketed everything. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

We needed somewhere to start.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Yeah, I mean we need to get fat before we can lose the fat.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

We need more weight so we can lose more.

The Heavy Turn: Parenting Stress

SPEAKER_03 22:51

Yeah. Alright. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

Let's go with that.

SPEAKER_03 22:54

Transition.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

I'm gonna tell you that my week has been hectic. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

Because I I mentioned before that I've been carrying a lot of the weight of the house for the past, I don't know, few weeks.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Oh yeah, and you can feel that in your muscles.

SPEAKER_03 23:12

Oh yeah, I'm so sore.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Yeah, you're lifting the house.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

Yeah. Every day.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

Yeah. It's exhausting. And I've gotten to the point where every single morning I want to cry. Okay. It's it's like it's bad. Especially when when certain mornings I feel like everything's going really well. I'm doing everything great. And the way that I'm communicating with my kids to get them ready to go to school has been like amazing. And they're cooperating. And then there's that one moment when we need to get everyone out the door and uh that mood snaps.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

And uh everything melts down.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

Yeah, you want the you know, what's going on up to that point to it continue that way.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

Right, exactly. All the way out through the door and to the school.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

From my door to the school door. Yeah. Is where I want everything to go really well. Yeah. But it hasn't gone well once.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Okay. When they're there, you then they can have the meltdowns and everything.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

I mean, I'd rather they didn't.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

No, but it's not your problem.

SPEAKER_03 24:26

No, but they're also not with me. Because I'm their safe place where they feel like they can have the meltdown, which is awful for me.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:36

Uh I mean, I'm glad that I'm their safe space, but I also need a safe space.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

Yeah, okay.

ADHD And Autism 101

SPEAKER_03 24:43

Um, so we have a heavy topic this week. Okay. It's been a while since we've gotten serious about anything.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

Yeah, and we're both heavy, so Right.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

Let's go with that. Let's go with a heavy subject.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

Um, today I want to talk about advice on how to care for a child with mental, what would you call them? Like not disabilities, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:08

Uh.

SPEAKER_03 25:08

And maybe not a disorder either. I don't know what to call it.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

Uh.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

Uh spectrum. Mental spectrum. I'm talking ADHD and or autism. Because I'm not going to label my kids, but I feel like these two things might be, you know, misting around them.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:29

You know? One, two, or both.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

I'm not gonna be specific here. No. But I'm pretty sure that one of them has ADHD, maybe a little autism. Just a slight bit.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

Another one of them is like, oddly enough, the more normal one out of the three. Some ADHD though. But surprisingly, more normal. And then the other one is like, there's a lot of autism buzzing around this one. Okay. That I'm noticing.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

I'm not s being specific about which is which though.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

No, but I I'm not even sure what's what those stands for. I don't know what what's uh how you can tell.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

I'm gonna answer that for you.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

Yeah, because I don't know anything.

SPEAKER_03 26:18

Okay. Anything.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

No, I know nothing. No, that's not movies, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

No, no. Okay. Alright, so what I'm talking about here. So ADHD is uh it doesn't say what it stands for, but it's a brain difference that affects attention, impulse control, and energy regulation, often showing up as distractability, restlessness, forgetfulness, or acting before thinking. Autism is a brain difference that affects how a person experiences communication, sensory input, and social understanding, often involving sensory sensitivity, difficulty with social cues, and a strong need for predictability. Both can include emotional overwhelm, trouble with transitions, intense focus on interests, and behavior that looks like not listening when the brain is overloaded. Neither is caused by bad parenting, and both are lifelong neurodevelopmental differences, not illnesses to be fixed. Uh right.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

So I'm not saying there's a problem with my kids.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

No.

SPEAKER_03 27:28

I'm saying that this is something that I need to learn to deal with. Yeah. And uh the correct way.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

Yeah, it's like a difficulty.

SPEAKER_03 27:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

In a way. Yeah, it can make things more difficult.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

So that's what we're doing. Let's see. What was I saying? Alright, so advice on how to care for these children.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

Okay. Uh, mindset. We're gonna talk about mindset.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

Number one. And of course, everything is brought to you by open eyes.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:01

Uh that should be assumed by now. Yeah. But I feel like I need to uh put out my resources.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:08

Because it's a resource, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

I guess.

Talk So Kids Can Hear You

SPEAKER_03 28:10

Sure. Number one, behavior is communication. If a child isn't listening, melting down, or acting defiant, assume this first. They are overwhelmed, they don't understand the expectation, or they don't have the skills yet to comply in that moment. This refrains discipline from how do I stop this to what is this telling me? Yeah. Number two.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

Connection comes before correction. A dysregulated brain cannot absorb instructions. Before teaching, correcting, or disciplining, check, are they calm enough to hear me? And do they feel do they feel safe with me right now? If not, regulation comes first. Words come later. I want to throw this in too. Um, it's really difficult. Just everything.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:02

I'm just gonna say that everything is difficult.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

End of sentence.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

That's all. No, I mean, they're kids, right? And they're not supposed to be attentive and listen and do anything, right?

SPEAKER_02 29:15

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

So it's really it's difficult to uh talk about this without like uh just assuming that they have these what disorders.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

I mean, what's the difference between kids being kids and kids who are on a spectrum? Is really what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

Yeah, I understand. I I don't know. Um it's difficult to say.

SPEAKER_03 29:40

I'm adding this to my questions. Okay. Kids being the treadmill. What's the difference between kids being kids and kids being on the treadmill? All right, all right, all right. No, I'm gonna move on. Uh that that's for later.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

Okay, so how to talk so they actually can hear you.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:01

This is very important. Listen up.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

Listen, Lauren. Keep language clear, concrete, and short. Many neurodivergent kids struggle with processing speed and abstract language. So instead of saying, can you please calm down and behave appropriately? We spent like two weeks together, right? How many times did I say something similar to this? Can you please calm down?

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:27

Behave. We're at a restaurant.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Calm on.

SPEAKER_00 30:30

Yeah, but I think I did I tried. Oh yeah, okay. The kids you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03 30:37

Matthias, calm down. So instead of saying that, try feet on the floor, hands to yourself.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

Yeah, would that really help that much?

SPEAKER_03 30:47

I'm gonna I'm questioning this.

SPEAKER_00 30:49

Yeah, because I feel like No. Yeah, I I feel like you said something along those lines too, and uh it didn't really help. So No.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

I I'm gonna say no.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

No. Because you it's like you can look with your eyeballs. Right, not your hands. No, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 31:07

Because at least one. At least, I'm not limiting, but I'm saying at least one of my children has a very hard time looking with their eyeballs. Their hands must be included.

SPEAKER_00 31:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

But on the other hand, I'm almost the same. Okay. Which is what I hate about being a parent, is that I am telling them to stop doing things that I do myself.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Yeah, so it's like you're telling yourself.

SPEAKER_03 31:34

Yeah. I mean, I say stop touching everything, and yet every time I go through a clothing store, I have to touch everything. Yeah. I t I touch everything in the clothes store.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

And I mean, the kids take after you.

SPEAKER_03 31:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

They see what you do, they do what you do.

SPEAKER_03 31:50

I know.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

So maybe that's also part of the problem.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

Maybe I should quit smoking. I was wondering why they started. No, I don't smoke, but it was a funny example. I'm trying to be funny. Anyway, continuing. Uh say what you want, not just what you don't. Oh, okay. So don't just say stop or don't do that. I I was thinking more like I want ice cream. I don't want broccoli.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Okay, so don't touch that. I want ice cream.

SPEAKER_03 32:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

Hey, we need to get out. I want ice cream.

SPEAKER_03 32:31

Hey, we've had these situations before. Yeah. We need to get cake. We're all leaving this super fun amusement park. We're getting cake.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

Because I want cake.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

Okay, so instead of saying don't run, don't run, don't do that, say walk.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Walk.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

Walk. Walk. Instead of stop yelling, say use a quiet voice.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

Same tone. Yeah. Quiet voice.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Adam San Little.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

Yeah, that quiet voice. Give one instruction at a time. Multi-step commands often vanish mid-air. So don't say go clean your room, brush your teeth, and get your pajamas on, because that's a list. Uh say first pajamas, next brush teeth.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

And tone matters more than words. Don't use your Adam Sandler voice. They won't get it. Like, I don't think it's funny. Many autistic and ADHD children are exquisitely sensitive to tone. So calm voice is equal to safety. Sharp or rushed voice is a threat, even if the words are polite.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

Please still up.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

I mean, if that's a threat, shouldn't they stop them?

SPEAKER_03 33:53

No, they break down or they shut down.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

The either one.

Routines, Sensory Supports, And Calm

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Well, I I feel like even if you say that, I think they would still continue. I mean, if they do something bad, I I don't really feel like they would stop it.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Maybe I should try to switch it out with a calm voice either way.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:14

I don't know. No. How to increase listening without power struggles. Drop the paper. That's point one. Yeah. If you're holding paper, drop it.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

Drop all the papers. All the papers. Important.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

Very important papers.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

On the floor. Yeah. I meant it was important to drop the papers.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

Yeah, you need to focus on other things right now. Not these papers.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Important papers.

SPEAKER_03 34:43

Uh get their attention before speaking.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:48

I usually do this with loud noises. Okay. Clapping or slamming my hand on the table.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

Okay. I was thinking dance.

SPEAKER_03 34:58

Bands?

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Dance.

SPEAKER_03 35:00

Oh, dance.

SPEAKER_00 35:01

You dance for them and then you.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

And then they say, stop, Mom, you're so embarrassing.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

Oh, now I got your attention. Listen to me.

SPEAKER_03 35:09

Um so don't speak into the void. You say their name, get eye level, if possible. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Hold on. It it depends on which one we're talking about.

SPEAKER_03 35:19

I have one who is easier than the other two.

SPEAKER_00 35:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:23

Uh one who is like three stories taller than me. And the other one I have to get on my hands and knees, pretty much. Yeah. So I can't talk to all of them at once unless they're all sitting. Um okay. And then after your eye level, you're at eye level.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

After your eye level.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Wait for a response. Wait for a response like yes or a nod. No response means no processing.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

So unless you're me, and my non-response is more like slow processing.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

Use predictability like a superpower. Unexpected transitions are hard. Helpful tools are visual schedules. I've tried that. Nobody looks. Countdown warnings. Five minutes, then clean up. After five minutes, it's like, I didn't even know there was five minutes. Or that went so fast. I'm not ready.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:26

Consistent routines. Still a breakdown every time we say it's time for bed. It's the same routine every single day.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:35

Like morning and evening, it's the same and still it we act like we've never done this before. Okay. But according to open eyes, predictability lowers anxiety and lowers and anxiety. Anxiety.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:52

Literally, it I'm gonna read you the sentence as it's as it is written. Predictability lowers anxiety and lower anxiety increases cooperation. Okay, well that made more sense when I finished the sentence.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

Turns out you have to finish the sentence before you can actually realize what it means. Yeah, before judging. You're right. I'm an early judger.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:17

Offer choices, but real ones. Choice gives a sense of control without chaos. Do you want to put on shoes first or jacket first? Avoid fake choices, like do you want to clean up now? If the answer can't truly be no. Alright, cool. Motivate through interest, not pressure. ADHD brains run on interest and urgency, not importance. So turn tasks into games. Cool, now we're playing, and we're gonna take even longer.

SPEAKER_02 37:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:49

Use timers or races against the clock.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:53

Maybe Does that work?

SPEAKER_00 37:55

Do you think that would work?

SPEAKER_03 37:57

I don't know. Well, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

It sounds like maybe could.

Discipline That Teaches

SPEAKER_03 38:03

I think I might test that. Because I know that there was one point I would count down from 10 to see how fast Sick Child could do something. I don't remember what it was, but that got the motivation going to go a little bit quicker.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

Yeah. Yeah, that could be a good strategy, actually.

SPEAKER_03 38:26

I'm gonna I'm gonna consider it.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:29

After I re-listen to this and remember what I said.

SPEAKER_00 38:32

Or forget about it.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

Uh oh yeah. Tomorrow all of this is gonna be gone. This never happens. And then we listen again, and it's like, oh yeah, we were doing that. Um, okay.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

Then you better listen again.

SPEAKER_03 38:46

Yeah. You were right. I am going to forget all of this. Yeah. Uh link boring tasks to preferred ones. I don't even know what that means because I don't know what I was talking about.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:59

Uh, but is it's not bribery, it's neuroscience. All right. Emotional regulation, the hidden foundation. Co-regulate before expecting self-regulation. I still don't know what I'm reading. Children borrow your calm until they can build their own. So sit with them, breathe slowly, and name the feeling. That was frustrating, for example.

SPEAKER_02 39:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 39:26

You are lending them your nervous system. So if they're having a hard time, you have to calm be calm with them and name the feeling. So then maybe they can identify their emotions later. Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

Alright. Validate feelings without validating unsafe behavior. You can hold boundaries and empathy. I see you're angry. It's okay to be angry. It's not okay to hit. This teaches emotional literacy, not shame.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

Okay. Now I know.

SPEAKER_03 40:02

Yeah. Good.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

And I promise it's the last time now.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

You've said that before.

unknown 40:09

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

So that decreases my trust in you.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

But now I know better.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

Yeah, well, you said that last time too. And you're gonna say it next time as well.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

That's true.

SPEAKER_03 40:19

Discipline! Woo! My favorite subject. I'm really bad at disciplining my kids.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:27

I'm gonna tell you that. I know that uh in earlier stages of parenting, I wanted to discipline more, but uh the father of my children made me into a bad guy, and his family was on his side. So I had everyone against me when it came to disciplining my children.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

Okay. Uh so then you're just no, I'm not gonna discipline.

Mornings: Ten Rules To Reduce Chaos

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Well, I don't know what like how much is too much. I also I just want to do things the right way, and I don't really know how to do that, especially with the more like emotional and complicated situations. You know, as they get older, especially with my oldest right now, I'm like, I don't even know what to do. I don't know how to take care of a teenager. No one taught me how to do this.

SPEAKER_02 41:25

No.

SPEAKER_03 41:25

I don't rem I mean like I try to think of like how I was as a teenager and how would I have taken care of me?

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

No.

SPEAKER_03 41:36

I wasn't shown any of this. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

No.

SPEAKER_03 41:39

Anyway, uh, discipline that actually teaches. Focus on teaching skills, not punishing mistakes. Ask yourself, do they know how to do this? Can they do it when calm? And can they do it when overwhelmed? If the answer is no, it's a skill gap, not defiance. Okay. Natural consequences over lectures. Uh, they're supposed to be calm, immediate, and related to the behavior. Long explanations often overload and get tuned out. Yeah. Okay, that one I can relate to. I know one of my kids does that, just like tunes out everything when having a talk.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

Okay. A talk. Doesn't really listen at all.

SPEAKER_03 42:23

No, just like zones out, and you can definitely tell that they're zoning out. And then it's like, there's no point in even bothering.

SPEAKER_00 42:30

That must be frustrating.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

Oh, yeah, definitely. Uh, let's see. What helps long-term, quietly, but powerfully? Consistent routines. Yeah, did that. Adequate sleep. I do that. I do my very best to get my kids to bed on time. Movement breaks. That's when they have to uh take a break from the screens.

SPEAKER_00 42:51

Oh, okay. To move.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

To move. Yeah, okay. I believe so. I think that's what it means.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

Okay, I thought it was a break from moving.

SPEAKER_03 42:59

Take a break from moving.

SPEAKER_00 43:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:01

Sit down.

SPEAKER_00 43:02

Sit down. Stop running around.

SPEAKER_03 43:04

Maybe. It could be either way. Yeah. Depends on what kid you have.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, uh, depends on what they are doing.

SPEAKER_03 43:13

Yeah, I mean, if they're running back and forth all day, then they need to take a movement break.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

If you think they run too much, they need to sit down. If they sit down too much, they need to run.

SPEAKER_03 43:24

Yeah, it's a balance.

SPEAKER_00 43:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

Um sensory supports like headphones, fidget toys, and quiet spaces. Which I believe all of my kids have access to, all of them. Except for the boys who have to share a room. Which I'm hoping eventually we can resolve that. But I mean their spaces are divided as well as we could.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:49

Given our living situation. Clear expectations. I'm pretty sure everyone is very aware of their expectations. They just choose to. Ignore them. And adults who stay regulated even when the child can't. Right. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 44:06

I didn't really understand that.

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Adults who pretty much can stay calm even when the child can't.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

Uh yeah, level-headed, you know.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 44:17

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

So you need to be that.

SPEAKER_03 44:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:21

You need to be calm.

SPEAKER_03 44:22

Right. How do I do that?

SPEAKER_00 44:25

I don't know. Good luck. No.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

Because I my daughter and I have this one thing in common where we react based on emotion instead of like thinking first. Like our reactions are very quick.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 44:42

So if I don't know, I've been nice all morning and then sick child decides to lay on the floor on top of his outside clothes instead of putting them on, I react quickly and I snap and be like, that's not okay. This isn't helpful right now. So it's very difficult for me to stay level-headed.

SPEAKER_00 45:02

But I I feel like uh this isn't helpful right now, would be a good way to talk though.

SPEAKER_03 45:09

You would think so. I don't think it gets through.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

No, but wasn't that like uh an earlier thing? What how you could talk to kids?

SPEAKER_03 45:19

Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 45:20

Yeah, I feel like that was one of those, maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 45:23

I don't know. I don't know. All right. My next question was help me survive mornings getting ready for school. Hopefully this will be more helpful.

SPEAKER_02 45:32

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

And I need to listen to this part. Rule number one: win the morning the night before. Uh do as much as humanly possible when brains are online. Because a nero neurodivergent brain wakes up like a computer from 1998. The dial tone. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

So if you wanna use the internet, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 45:57

Then you wake up a neurodividergent child. Okay. Right. You heard me.

SPEAKER_00 46:03

Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_03 46:07

So uh pick out clothes and place in one stack. These are this is a list of things to do the night before. So pick out the clothes, pack the backpack, uh, lunch decided or prepped, which uh we don't pack lunches here, but we pack snacks. And that has to be done day of because apple. Apple has to be cut in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:32

You know this.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

I know.

SPEAKER_03 46:33

You don't prep your apple the night before.

SPEAKER_02 46:35

No.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

No. Because then it's all brown in the next day when you're gonna eat it and like kind of dry on the outside. It's really weird. And then shoes and jacket in one predictable spot. Right. Mornings are for execution, not decisions. Uh yep.

SPEAKER_00 46:51

That sounded dramatic. You shouldn't execute your kids.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

Maybe not. I guess that's what we learned today. Do not execute your children.

SPEAKER_01 47:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:04

Rule number two reduce the morning to a short visible checklist. Not in your head, not spoken, but visible. Think, thrink. What? Thrink.

SPEAKER_00 47:15

Thrink.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

Think three to five steps max. Bathroom, clothes, breakfast, teeth, shoes, and backpack. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 47:24

Okay. For younger kids or autistic kids, pictures help. For ADHD kids, fewer steps matter more than prettier charts.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 47:34

That makes sense. Okay. Alright. Alright. All right.

SPEAKER_00 47:37

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 47:38

I I've tried doing this before and I've had a child just completely ignore it. Oh my goodness. I'm gonna tell you something. I I make I I create this document. Very pretty. Colors, perfect font, everything, listing out all the things that need to be done. Put it right in front of the doorknob handle. You know, right. I tape it next to because you usually look at the door handle when you open it, I'm assuming. Or like kind of in eye view when leaving the bedroom.

SPEAKER_00 48:14

You'd think.

SPEAKER_03 48:15

You would think so. Or like even on the keyboard, because I'm assuming we wake up and go straight to the computer.

SPEAKER_02 48:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:23

It was completely ignored. Even on the keyboard, it was just thrown to the side. We don't look at these things, we ignore them. The one on the door, like I didn't even see it. Like, all right, fine. I do like making those documents though.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

Yeah. I'm I'm just thinking, d don't you if someone would do that to me, I would be like, maybe I should read this because otherwise I'm probably gonna uh you know get in trouble for not reading it.

SPEAKER_03 48:52

But it seems like Not everyone thinks the same.

SPEAKER_00 48:55

No.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 48:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

Rule number three wake up is equal to regulation, not commands. So the first ten minutes decide everything. Avoid rapid instructions, bright lights immediately, hurry up. That's that's something I say a lot. Hurry up, let's go.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

You're not supposed to say that.

SPEAKER_03 49:15

I guess not. Alright, I've been told now. Try gentle voice, dim light first, physical grounding. So sitting nearby, light touch if welcome. And then one sentence. Good morning. Bathroom first. Uh you're booting a system, not starting a race. Alright. Rule number four use time anchors, not nagging. Because nagging doesn't motivate. It overwhelms. Well, I'm gonna tell you one thing. If you listened to me the first time, then I wouldn't be nagging, would I?

SPEAKER_02 49:49

No.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

If you just acted on what if you just do what I t tell you, which I'm gonna tell you that my daughter got told today by her dentist, you need to listen to your mom.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 50:03

Yeah. Because I tell her every morning, every evening, gotta brush your teeth. And then she goes to the dentist, she's like, um, I don't really know how often I brush my teeth. Because she doesn't remember the last time she brushed her teeth before yesterday. Oh wow. Even though I tell her I do tell her, do this, and then I trust that she does it.

SPEAKER_00 50:27

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:28

Because she's 10 years old.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:30

I would expect that she can handle it herself. But she ignores me. But today she got told off. Haha. That's what you get. Okay, so instead of overwhelming your children, use a visual timer or countdown clock, which we talked about, a music playlist with known length, or when this song ends, we move to breakfast, which I I have been using as well, because I've been getting sick child up in the morning. It's not an easy task, but I carry him to the living room and I put on uh the kids' channel, and then I say, Okay, well, after this show, it's time to go get breakfast. And sometimes it works, not always.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

Sometimes he's like, okay, and then goes and gets stressed or has breakfast or whatever. And sometimes it's like completely ignoring I'm gonna continue watching TV until I don't know. So yeah, there's them. Rule number five give choices, but only where it helps. So, like, some good choices would be blue shirt or a green shirt, toast or yogurt. Do you want to wear your toast or do you want to wear your yogurt?

SPEAKER_00 51:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:42

Here's some bad choices.

SPEAKER_00 51:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 51:44

Do you want to get dressed now? That's an obvious no. I don't want to get dressed right now. Are you ready to go? Doesn't look like I'm ready to go. I'm not ready to go. No. Uh if it must happen, don't phrase it like a question. So if I want to know if they're ready, how would I phrase that?

unknown 52:00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 52:01

You have to get ready right now is obviously not gonna work out so well.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

No, no, I don't know. Let's play a game.

SPEAKER_03 52:08

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 52:08

That's what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

First one out the door gets to go to school. Everyone else is left at home. No, then no one's gonna go out the door.

SPEAKER_00 52:18

Oh no, no, no. I'm terrible at this. Opposites?

SPEAKER_03 52:21

Okay. Last one out the door has to walk.

SPEAKER_00 52:26

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:27

Rule number six, because I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Break tasks into micro steps. Because get dressed is huge. So try underwear and shirt and then wait. Pants and weight and then socks. Okay. I don't know. I don't know. No. Yeah, um, whatever. Rule number seven, expect dic dicstruction. Sorry. Dick extraction.

SPEAKER_00 52:54

Dickstraction?

SPEAKER_03 52:56

Dretching. No. Uh-uh. Let me try that again. Rule number seven. Expect distraction and plan for it. I can't read this now. ADHD kids don't get distracted. Distraction finds them. I feel like that's an excuse. Prevent it by having no toys visible. Alright, throw them all away. Screens off until completely ready. One room at a time. Backpack stays by the door, not in the bedroom. Well, obviously. We don't do that. Uh remove temptation rather than fighting it.

SPEAKER_02 53:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:35

Rule number eight. Feed first if hunger melts things down. Some kids cannot function on empty fuel. Even a small snack before full breakfast can help. Like a banana, crackers, smoothie, or a protein bite. Cool. A regulated blood sugar level does half the work for you. That might work for some people. Rule number nine use calm, boring repetition. Uh so say the same phrase every morning. Bathroom first, check the list, what's next? Same words, same tone, no speeches. Blah blah.

SPEAKER_00 54:10

I feel like that wouldn't work.

SPEAKER_03 54:12

No? It might kind of feel like nagging after a while, right? If you say the same things over and over again every day.

SPEAKER_00 54:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:19

Well, not over and over again, but like the same thing every day.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 54:23

I don't know. Rule number 10 have a morning exit plan. Decide in advance. What happens if we're late? I don't know. Be late. What gets skipped if time runs out? Getting dressed, I guess. They can go outside without jackets, without clothes. Yeah, well, that's what happens. For example, no teeth brushing lecture. Chew gum in the car. Sick child cannot chew gum. He's not allowed.

SPEAKER_02 54:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 54:52

And I don't think my dentist would like to hear that I let the kids chew gum instead of brushing their teeth because they feel like that's an option. Because if you do it once, the next day they're gonna be like, yeah, but yesterday.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

Yeah, they're gonna be doing that all the time.

SPEAKER_03 55:07

Every morning.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

Yeah, never brushing their teeth again.

SPEAKER_03 55:11

Right. So I'm I'm gonna go ahead and say, don't do that.

SPEAKER_00 55:15

No, that was a stupid.

Testing, Labels, And Family History

SPEAKER_03 55:16

Sometimes these shortcuts can bite you later. Uh especially if it's super convenient for the kids. Breakfast to go kind of is stealing from teeth brushing. Uh shoes on in the car. So you carry the shoes to the car. Walk in the snow to the car and then put your shoes on. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

No.

SPEAKER_03 55:40

I also read shoes on the car. Yeah. Put shoes on the car.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:45

The car needs its shoes tube. Right. I don't know. If a meltdown starts anyway, do not push through. Give up right then and there. Lay down and uh take a nap. I don't know. Pause the demands, is what it actually says.

SPEAKER_02 56:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 56:01

Lower your voice. Name the feeling. This is hard. You're overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed. What about me?

SPEAKER_02 56:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:08

Reduce to one step. Alright, just shoes. You don't need a jacket. You know what? No, you're right. You don't need a jacket. We'll just go outside with shoes on.

SPEAKER_00 56:17

I mean, that feels more I mean, if they let them go out without a jacket, bring the jacket, and then they see, oh, maybe I need a jacket and put that on. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 56:29

Or they just cry because it's cold.

SPEAKER_00 56:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:32

They still don't want the jacket on. Speaking from experience. Okay. That's all.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

I mean, that's better than uh not putting shoes on.

SPEAKER_03 56:41

I guess so. Because I'm not carrying the child their clothes and their backpack.

SPEAKER_00 56:47

No.

SPEAKER_03 56:47

And try to unlock the car all at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 56:50

No.

SPEAKER_03 56:51

I only have so many hands.

SPEAKER_00 56:54

Two actually.

SPEAKER_03 56:55

Right. Exactly. I'm gonna go to my very, very, very last question here. Which was what I mentioned earlier. What's the difference between kids being kids and kids being on the spectrum? So kids being kids means the behavior is occasional, flexible, and approves improves with guidance. A child on the spectrum shows patterns that are intense, consistent across settings, and tied to sensory overload, communication differences, or a strong need for sameness. Typical behavior bends with context, while autistic behavior often appears even when the child wants to cooperate, but their nervous system is overwhelmed. The key difference is not what the child does, but how persistent it is, how extreme it is, and how much it interferes with daily life.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

So do you feel like it's more towards the ADHD and uh autism? I almost were going to say uh HDMI, but that's not HDMI.

SPEAKER_03 58:08

Is it autism or HDMI? This sounds like a fun game. Yeah. No, we don't have time for a game.

SPEAKER_00 58:18

No. Uh so let me ask you this question instead.

SPEAKER_03 58:23

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

Would you consider it uh like testing your kids for the Yes.

SPEAKER_03 58:30

And you know what? Kind of a funny story. I'm I'm saying kind of because it's also not that funny. One of my kids actually requested that we uh investigated if they had uh ADHD. And I said, Yes, of course, I'm listening to you and I want to help you. If you think that there's something wrong, then let's look into it. Yeah. Because I know that when I mentioned that I felt different from the rest of my class to my mom, I was ignored and said, No, you're you're normal, you're fine. Even though I was like, I don't know. I'm treated differently and I act differently, and I just feel different from everyone else.

SPEAKER_02 59:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:15

So I was doing my best to not do that and listen to them. So we had to talk to you have to go through the school to do these things.

SPEAKER_00 59:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 59:26

And their teacher referred me to a link with pretty much a whole like application with like a hundred questions. Like there were a lot of questions, not just like multiple choice, but you had to like type in your answers.

SPEAKER_00 59:43

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 59:44

And I went through it and I started filling it out, and then I was like, no, my child should probably be here and fill this out with me.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:53

And well, mom also has ADHD, and we never really got to it because mom didn't um remember. I I saw I I got overwhelmed, said, we'll do this later, and we never did it later. Okay. Uh yeah. So funny, not funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:14

No, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:16

But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:18

Is it ever too early to test it?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:20

I'm not sure. But I feel like it's usually like um the teacher or their doctor who would be like, we should probably look into this. But that's of course for the kids higher up on the spectrum, like completely non-communicative and such.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:44

But since my kids are maybe not that high up, I mean they communicate in their own ways, maybe not perfectly, but they do their best.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:56

And they uh get through their school days without much problems that I'm aware of.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:03

So they're not considered.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:05

I mean, distraction I feel is normal for kids. Yeah. And even if my kids get distracted a bit easier than other kids, I don't think that's enough for them to be, you know, considered.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:18

Oh, okay. Okay. But do you have been tested or is it I wouldn't say officially.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:24

I'm not officially diagnosed.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:26

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:27

But I think that my what sympt now symptoms in quotations are strong enough so that I I don't think I really need to get tested. Like I I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:41

But I don't have it written in my like medical journal that I have ADHD.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:48

But I know that my sister will brag pretty much. She'll let the world know that she is autistic. She's very proud of it, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

That's good. Good for her.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:59

She pretty much let everyone in the world know when she was on the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:05

Yeah, I remember.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:07

Yep. Yep. Good times.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

Yeah. Okay. I don't know. Um, I I don't have more questions, I think.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:15

I I feel pretty good about this, I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:18

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:19

Are you out of sips?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:20

I'm all out of sips. And that means we're all out of episode.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:24

Alright. Well, as we near the end of the episode, would you like to tell me what's ruining your life right now?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:32

Right now. I mean, I do have a few things to pick from now. Okay. Actually. Uh, because I do have this weird cold in your throat. In my throat. I don't I really don't know what what that's about. Cause it's just in my throat and uh uh I don't feel sick. It's just that I uh clear my throat a lot and cough. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:57

Weird.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:58

What else did you have?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

Uh it's also my belt buckle.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:02

Oh, yeah.

What’s Ruining Your Life

SPEAKER_00 1:03:03

In my fat belly. Right now I feel it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:06

Huh.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:07

It doesn't feel great, but it's gonna feel even worse when I get up and like pull it out from my fat.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:14

That's a very nice picture in my head.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:17

I believe everyone else has the same very attractive picture.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:21

You're all welcome. So what's ruining your life? I I mean, we're we've been talking for like uh about one thing. Yeah, for about what could be ruining your life. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:37

Parenting? Yeah yes. I think parenting might actually be ruining my life because it's difficult.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:44

And you try to do really good, and I'm I'm always like right right there, like uh right on the edge of being really good, and then I just like fall. And um, it's disappointing, and every morning I want to cry.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:01

Yeah. That's not good.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:03

No, I I've heard that's not normal. No. So that's why we're here today to help solve my problems in life. Please, people listening, uh, write in the comments and tell us what's ruining your life because I'm very interested. We did get fan mail.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:21

I'm gonna read you the fan mail.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:23

Cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

Fan mail. Okay, so here's Heather. She's back.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:27

Yay.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:28

She said in her very judgy voice, Oh. I know you didn't ask what's ruining my life, but I'm gonna tell you anyway. Because this one week we did not say Oh, okay tell us what's ruining your life. Like, I you didn't say that, but I'm gonna tell you anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:45

You're always free to tell us what's ruining your life.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:48

We're always very interested. Yeah she also has a cough that just won't go away. Oh teas, cough medicine, and cough drops just aren't helping. That's not good.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:58

No, that's a problem.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

Um, here's my advice stop that. Yeah, and then everything will be better.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:05

There you go. No AI needed.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:07

No. I mean, she was coughing when we were there.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:12

She's always coughing.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:13

She was coughing the time before that.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:17

Or no, it wasn't the time. Well, the time before that when I saw her.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:21

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:21

This last year.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:23

Oh, she's been coughing for years now.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:25

Last last year. It's been like two years of coughing.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:29

Have you ever tried like just not?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:31

Yeah, maybe you should stop that.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:33

I'm concerned that you have an addiction to coughing.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:36

Yeah. Maybe maybe your husband should have an intervention or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:42

Cougher is anonymous. California. CA.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:48

Alright. What did we learn today?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:51

Parenting.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:53

Parenting is hard.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:54

Yeah. Now you know how to parent.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:57

Also, do not exterminate. Your children was one of the things we said.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

Yeah, exactly. Don't don't execute your kids.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:07

Oh yeah. Exterminate their pests. Get them out.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:15

Um, and also we we learned that um today you've been uh more positive towards the movies than I was.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

Both of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:26

That's good.

Listener Mail And Running Jokes

SPEAKER_00 1:06:27

I think for me. It's good for you. I like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:31

Alright, would you like to wrap this up?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:32

Let's wrap this up.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:34

Thank you all for listening to this very long episode. Uh very heavy and serious episode. But I think it was necessary for everyone. Except for you. You don't care.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:48

I I don't have kids.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:50

No. We will be back next Tuesday with another life-saving episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:58

Yeah, probably gonna be sillier.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

Silly and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:03

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:04

I guess that's all.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:06

Uh yeah, I feel like there's more things that I usually say, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:11

So have a good life.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:12

Yes. And uh see you next week.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:15

Yeah, goodbye.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:16

Bye-bye.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:17

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SPEAKER_00 1:07:21

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SPEAKER_03 1:07:31

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SPEAKER_00 1:07:36

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SPEAKER_03 1:07:44

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SPEAKER_00 1:07:48

And we'll be back with another one next Tuesday on a podcast provider near you.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:53

Goodbye, Matthias.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:54

Goodbye, Lauren.