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#181: Medical Staring

May 19, 2026 • Lauren & Mattias • Episode 181

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We bounce from movie night banter to an unexpectedly deep, very silly breakdown of why humans and animals yawn. Along the way, we talk gym horror stories, hair and eyebrow updates, and the life problems that feel huge when you’re tired.
• pre-show chaos about competition talk and Stallone going forever
• gym highlights including the stair climber fear factor
• sweaty treadmill neighbor and the rules of personal space
• new glasses, hair color expectations, and first-time eyebrow pain
• Murder Mystery 2 recap and what makes it work as a sequel
• Rocky Balboa thoughts on grief, legacy, and the familiar Rocky formula
• what a yawn is and what the “stages” look like
• brain cooling theory and why overheated rooms make people yawn
• yawns as a reset during transitions, boredom, stress, and anticipation
• yawning as social signaling and why it can be misread
• contagious yawning, empathy theories, and who you catch it from
• animals that yawn and what it might mean for evolution
• yawning myths, excessive yawning, and when it might signal a problem
• folklore about evil spirits, etiquette, and covering your mouth
• the “psychopath” rumor and what the research actually says
• TMJ jaw cracking and why some yawns feel incomplete
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SPEAKER_00 1:14

Who was going through the paperwork that needs to be filled out before we compete?

SPEAKER_02 1:20

You can compete. Oh, before we can beat.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

Beat the other teams. What else would you call it?

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Okay, let's beat them.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Let's go beat the other teams. Okay. Go team go. And stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Yeah. Things like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Yeah. And other things that are similar. Yeah. Relevant.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. The things we learn from sports movies.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Yeah. Be better than the other guys. Yay.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

And stuff. Yeah. And like believe in yourself and own the space. Yeah. The bad guy will lose.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Probably.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Otherwise it's it's a weird story.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Or or they win slightly and we're all okay with that.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

Yeah. And it's like, I feel like I still won.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Yeah. We did what we came here to do, and we're happy with our performance. Yeah. And now we're gonna go home and be okay for the rest of our lives. Because there was never another movie that was made after this one. So not yet, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

There was just wait, ten years. Yeah. I'm gonna how much you wanna I I won't I'm gonna put money down on this right now. How much you wanna bet in the next 10 years? 2036, Stallone will still be alive.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

Yeah, 90.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

He'll be in his 90s. He's like, one more go. One more Rocky movie.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

I I still got it in me. I I feel the the it's burning inside me, and I'm I have to do this. Just one more. And then when he's done with that, he's like, Rambo.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

I'm still Rambo too.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

Um just one more.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

Yeah, I need to kill some people.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

I just need to kill some people. I need to box people, and then I need to kill them.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

I thought you would go uh Rocky versus Rambo, but no, you're that would be cool.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

But no.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

No.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

Rambo is just he's he's done with everything. Yeah. He's like, Rocky, stop, just give up already. And he kills them all.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

You're so old.

SPEAKER_00 3:23

You're too old for this. And Rocky's like, but you're a hundred. And and Rambo's like, I've got a gun. I'm still better than you. And then he jumps on a helicopter and flies away.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Yeah, and screams.

SPEAKER_00 3:38

And screams.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

And drop bombs or yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

After everyone's dead, he just drops a bomb on the place and flies away.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

The end.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

The end. That's my history lesson for today. Thank you. So Do you think Stallone is okay with us? Yeah. Okay. I think so. He'll go for it.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

So Rambo will survive.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Yeah. And Rocky just had a baby.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

So he's dead now. And he has no one to care for his newborn child because he never got over Adrian. So he he's not really with the mother. It's like a Jesus baby, really.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

Stallone made him himself.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

Okay. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Yeah. Did you say okay? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Okay. That's okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

Alright. Can we get this over with? Yeah. I've been trying to open this up for a while.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

I notice.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Apparently I'm drinking monster today.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Alright. Do whatever you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

Hey do up there.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Okay. Hello and welcome to Roasty Toasty Ghosty. My name is Matthias.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

And I'm Lauren.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

And we're gonna be a besties for an hour or so. And this is the podcast where you learn nothing at all.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

We'll see.

SPEAKER_02 4:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

I don't know. Maybe we'll learn something today, but probably not.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

Yeah. You might be learning silly things.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

You might learn things that you weren't planning on learning today. Um, probably things that you didn't really care to know.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

No.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

But that's what we do here.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

Yeah. We give out information that nobody asked for.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

And then you have that living in your head. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Yeah. Living in your head. So how are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 5:27

I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

Good.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Today is a day off for uh everyone in the world. Not really.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

No.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

Except for the people at the grocery stores. Because we need them.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Um, it is the I read on the calendar Ascension Day.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

That's what it's called.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

And we get the day off. I get most days off, but I also go to school and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

Uh yeah. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 5:52

I'm good. I I got the day off, so I'm happy about that.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

I tried sleeping in, but I kept waking myself up in paranoia that I was going to lose track of time.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Yeah. Ruin your life.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

In my sleep. I'm losing track of time in my sleep. And that's very uncomfortable. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 6:14

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

I don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

Do you usually keep track of time in your sleep?

SPEAKER_00 6:19

No. But I thought that I had turned my alarm off, but apparently I didn't. But I was trying to trust myself to wake up before you got here anyway. But my alarm still went off. So there was no point.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

No, okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

And then I tried going back to sleep. Um, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Yeah, that's that's all.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Um, do you have any highlights from the past week?

SPEAKER_02 6:44

Well, highlights, I don't know. I've been working for three days now.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Yeah, because today's Thursday.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I've been doing. I don't think I'd I usually go home and help my parents on the weekends. And I've been to the gym every day. More than I have. Every day this week.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Which is so far. At least three more days than I've gone to the gym this week.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

Yeah. So I've been to the gym and I've been doing pretty good actually.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Go ahead. You uh used the stare machine I heard, and you hated it.

SPEAKER_05 7:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

That one was awful. Yeah. Oh my goodness. It's worse than the the other one in the other gym. It went faster even though it was like the same speed or level than the other one at the other gym.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

And I if uh I think that the steps are shorter. Oh maybe. Yeah, because I'm like, uh, I can barely uh fit my feet on this.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

Well that I don't have that problem.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

No, no, okay. And also when it uh when you go further down, if you're not staying up there, then it kind of feels like it's gonna come loose or something. Oh I'm like I don't think I noticed that. No, okay. No, I I guess I slacked off a bit and then I'm like you can't do that, or else you will fall. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:06

And that would probably be worse than falling on the treadmill. Yeah, almost said trampoline, but that's usually not a huge problem. But the treadmill, falling on the treadmill isn't fun. No. And I'm guessing that falling on the stair climber is not very fun either. It's almost like falling down an escalator, I guess. Yeah, I guess. And then you just keep rolling and you never hit the ground because the stairs are constantly just moving and you're rolling and it it it doesn't work. No, and then you're stuck there forever. They have to turn off the electricity for you to finally fall down the stairs.

SPEAKER_02 8:44

Yeah, then someone comes over. Are you done soon? I'm gonna use the can I use that one?

SPEAKER_01 8:50

Like, yes, please save me.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

Turn it off.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

I'll come back later. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

I don't want to bother you.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

Gym equipment can be scary.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

And uh yesterday was good because it was like me and three other people.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

Are they your new besties now? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

Like we all have something in common. We're at the gym right now.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Let's be friends.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Yeah, I kinda uh there was like a bald guy. I'm like that guy and me.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

We we get it.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

We're on the same same wavelength here. Yeah. Alright. But the other guys were not bald.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

No, the they looked like it was a couple, so uh who were not bald. No. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

You put it that way. It sounds gross. You're so weird.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

I'm sorry. I I didn't even think about that. Okay. So yeah, that's my gym. Story. Story. Yeah. Okay. That's my gym.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

You own that gym, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

That's my yeah, I got the card now, so Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

So you own it.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

Yeah, I know I own it.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

You know.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Yeah, I own it for a year now.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

Yeah, I took a year. I'm like, I don't have money, but I still took a year.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

Yeah, why not? Yeah. You get them you get more money next time you get money.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

Yeah. So that's what I'm thinking too. I hope I survive on this. I think I will. That's no problem.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

On the year?

SPEAKER_02 10:25

No, yeah, not not.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

I hope I survive this year.

SPEAKER_02 10:28

Yeah, I hope so. I might die at the gym.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

It could happen. I'm sure it's happened before. I've seen a movie where someone died at a gym.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

I couldn't tell you which one, but I I see the scene in front of me.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

Okay. Um what happened to them?

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Uh they got crushed by the weight.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

Right? They they took the dumbbell thing with the weights and the Yes.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

Uh I didn't like that. No. Okay. So it's a movie we watched.

SPEAKER_00 11:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

You know this movie.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

It's Lock Up.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Okay. Yeah. Is that Bruce Willis?

SPEAKER_02 11:05

That's Stallone.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

That's still Stallone. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

When they're in prison.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Yeah, he's gone to prison a few times though.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

Yeah, that's true. But one of them.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Oh yeah, and he had a friend and stuff. And then he died.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

The friend got killed.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

Yeah. With the weights. Yeah. I didn't like them.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

No.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

And then I stopped going to the gym. I don't know. That's because that might happen. That might happen to me.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

Yeah. Maybe s uh one person at the gym doesn't like me and kills me.

SPEAKER_00 11:37

It could happen.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

I mean, we uh tend to fight pretty often, so you might turn on me and crush me with weights or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:48

Yeah. Oh yeah. On Tuesday, I was uh on the treadmill and I was next to this guy who were uh stinking.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

He was a lot of guys smell bad.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Yeah, and uh you know this old sweats uh and he was running so it's like uh you can was he spraying sweat on you?

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Almost disgusting. Yeah I I would have been I would have been done and if I felt like I'm gonna get sweat on me that is not my own, then I'm I'm turning it off and I'm going away.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

I'm not risking my life for the threadmill. No, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

Yeah, no, yeah, that was kind of disgusting, but uh I I also have headlig headlights this week. So you have headlights?

SPEAKER_00 12:35

I also have headlights.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Or headlights.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

No I have highlights for this week.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

Oh yeah. I also have headlights on my car.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

You wanna talk about them?

SPEAKER_00 12:52

I I use them sometimes when it's dark outside.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

Oh, that's good. Yeah. Okay. Wanna move you on?

SPEAKER_00 12:59

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

I want to tell you about my highlights in my hair. Ever sin ever since.

SPEAKER_02 13:09

Ever since. Ever since I had hair.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Ever since the last time we sat here.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

A week ago.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Long, long time ago.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

Yeah. Um felt like it.

SPEAKER_02 13:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

I got new glasses and I've gotten my hair done. I also went all out and I got my eyebrows blocked.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

I've never gotten my eyebrows done. So that was a first. Okay. And uh yeah, I was like, I know nothing about this, but I've been told that maybe I should get this done. So I got it done.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

How did it feel?

SPEAKER_00 13:42

It hurt. Oh yeah. They plucked the hairs right out of your skin. And um, well, I guess it was okay, but the further out she went, the more air hurt.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

Because it I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

It's more sensitive out.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

Yeah, I guess so. And and then it started burning and it hurt.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Yeah, you don't want to look like the old guys in uh in the old uh kung fu movies.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

With the giant no almost curly eyebrows. No, thank you. No, and like the thing is that I felt like something needed to be done because I kept feeling like my eyebrows were like sticking together, you know? No. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

It was okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

I've been having that for like a really long time now, and I was thinking maybe this will help.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

Sticky eyebrows.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Yeah, well, that's kind of what it felt like. Like I don't know if it's because of the place that I work at. It's like oil.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

Oh yeah, that's true. Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

And like it all gets stuck on me somehow. But I didn't like it. It was uncomfortable and it felt kind of gross. So I I got my eyebrows blocked. Oh. And I got my hair colored.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

And I don't know. I'm thinking about going back actually.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Okay, you didn't like it?

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Well, I I like it, but it feels like this is the second time in a row I've gone in and I've asked for something very specific, and it's it's come out a lot darker than I wanted. Okay. I wanted to brighten a bit, and this is just darker. So I don't know if I can go in and get like a few shades lighter, or if it's too late because it's already too dark. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

I don't know, maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

I don't know. We'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

I'm not a hair expert, so you know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

No. But I hang out.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

I got rid of mine.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

I f I felt like I should share that anyway.

SPEAKER_02 15:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

No.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Anyway, today is Thursday.

SPEAKER_05 15:39

It is.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

It is May 15th. 14th. I was close. Today is May 14th. And we watched movies today.

SPEAKER_05 15:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

We watched two movies like we do. Yeah. Before recording. Would you like to movy on?

SPEAKER_02 15:55

Yes, let's move on.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Today we watched Murder Mystery Two. The sequel. Yes. The actual sequel.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

And Rocky Balaboa. Yeah. The tenth Rocky movie.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Almost.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Uh yeah, like ninth.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

Sixth of them.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Yes. Sixth. So I guess you can tell me about Murder Mystery Two.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

So this movie is uh a movie starring Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston, like in the first one. This time they quit their jobs to be private investigators, right? Detectives. Detective. Private detectives. That's it. Then uh one Yeah. The end. No, one of their friends from the first movie is getting married, and he's rich, so he pays for all expenses since they're going to Paris. And then a murder happened. Now they have to solve who the killer is. And then there are other, you know, special forces also helping them, more like doing their own investigation, and then uh they somehow Adam and Jennifer get blamed for this one again. They have to solve the murder, and funny things also happen. So yeah, was that good? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

I guess so.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Did I miss anything? Nope. No.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

You read the full script.

unknown 17:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

What uh did you think about this movie?

SPEAKER_00 17:26

I like this movie. It was funny, like the first one, and uh very interesting. Have you seen this one?

SPEAKER_05 17:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Okay. I haven't seen this one. Okay. Which makes sense because I didn't see the first one either. It's always kind of weird to watch the second one before the first one.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Sometimes I do that.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Sometimes sometimes people do do that. Um, have I done that? I don't remember if I've ever done that.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

I do my best not to, I think.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

Yeah, nowadays I uh it was more when I was younger and you know I didn't have any choice. If like my mom bought uh a sequel to a movie that we don't have the first one of, I'm like, I'm watching that, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Why would she do that?

SPEAKER_02 18:12

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

What's wrong with your mother? You can't get the sequel if you're not gonna get the first one too. If you want to jump to the end, you have to buy all the other movies too. I don't know. What did you think about this movie?

SPEAKER_02 18:27

I think it's good. It's funny, it's a good movie.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

That's all.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

I thought that it was Drew Barrymore in the beginning. No, I didn't uh You didn't think that it looked like her at all.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Not Not really.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

No, but I can be wrong sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Yeah, so can I.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

I'm not gonna be happy about it, but I I can do that.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

I mean, that happens.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

I can be wrong if I want to. I can leave my friends behind.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Yeah, if you're wrong, you leave your friends.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Because my friends are wrong, and if they're not wrong, then they're no friends of mine.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

Okay, so everyone else has to be wrong too.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

If I'm wrong, you're wrong.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

Just agree with me. Who cares about facts? Well, that was a movie. And now I'm gonna tell you about Rocky Balboa.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Yes. Which is also a sequel.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Which is uh uh five-sickle, I don't know. It's not a popsicle, it's a fivesickle, it's a six, six sixth one out of ten-ish, depending on how it goes in ten years.

SPEAKER_05 19:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

In this movie, Stallone is there and as Rocky. He plays Rocky in this movie. Oh. And he's sad, he's sad for a long time, and then something sparks in him, and then he wants to fight again.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

So he does his little training montage and then he fights. Yeah. And every Rocky movie ever.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

Well, I feel like this one stands out because it doesn't really uh show half the previous movie. That's the uh Also he's old. He's old. It's like sixteen years after the fifth one.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Like he is not sixteen in this movie.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

No, no. Uh so I mean it's a like a legacy sequel.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Mm, okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

And you like those, right?

SPEAKER_00 20:30

I do. Usually. But this was 2006. Yeah. So it doesn't mean that much to me because I I didn't have to wait 16 years for another Rocky movie. No, okay. Um, in this movie, his wife dies, and that's kind of sad. But uh, she died of cancer. But for a while they didn't really mention why she died. So I was trying to think what happened.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

Did he hit her?

SPEAKER_00 20:57

No, I don't think that he hit her, but I think that she got really worked up and had like a heart attack from yelling at people all the time.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

Yeah. I'm surprised Paulie is still alive.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

He's still there. He also gets kind of sad.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

But he doesn't really fight anyone.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

No.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Um, there's a dog in this movie, and that's when I realized that he had a dog in the first movie too. Yeah. And then it was gone.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Yeah. No mention of that.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

No, nobody really said where the dog went and what happened to his blind eye and his head injuries or anything.

SPEAKER_05 21:35

No.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

He's fine in this. It's like a he put he pushed the restart button.

SPEAKER_05 21:39

Yeah. Right? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

In video games, you get to restart your your game. And that's what Rocky does with every movie.

SPEAKER_05 21:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Except something different happens in the beginning. Like in this time, uh, his wife dies.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

The next one shall be there.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

We'll see.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

Uh but uh I'm I'm thinking uh It's also a little bit different in this one since he doesn't really abandon his son. It's more like the r reverse now.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

His son abandons him because of uh his legacy and everyone like is comparing, right? He's got a lot of pressure on him because of his dad.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

A lot to live up to.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

Yeah, so he he avoids his dad most of the time. Which I guess is a side effect of being abandoned as a child. That you you eventually think, you know what? Whatever. I'm gonna abandon me. I'm I'm not gonna bother anymore.

SPEAKER_05 22:35

No.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

Goodbye. And then Rocky is sad because he didn't really know what he had until it was gone.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

No.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

And so he goes chasing after his son. And yeah, what's done is done.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

Yeah. And also, another thing that's different from other Rocky movies is that in this one there's turtles. Yeah. Well, it's in the first one too.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

It's the same turtles from the first one. That's pretty cool. No, I was thinking about like in this one, he wants to fight. He's the one who wants to fight. Usually it's a few.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

Well, yeah, because he doesn't have a wife pulling him back anymore.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

No, no, that's that's true. Oh, he did kill her.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

He did.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

He put cancer in her.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

He put cancer pills in her. I don't think you can do that.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

No.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

No.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Something to think about.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

That's what we're gonna break down today in the second half is can you create cancer pills and uh how and how do they work?

SPEAKER_05 23:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

And how long does does it take for it to, you know, go into effect and get rid of the person? Yeah, I guess. Just just for you know, I'm curious.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

I'm not gonna use the information in any way, but I'm just I just want to know. Okay. Okay. What else? Is that it?

SPEAKER_02 23:55

I think that was we're done for today. Yeah, maybe. Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

Let's take a break.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

We could do that. I'm done. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

And we're back. Hello.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Hello.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

The entire kitchen just collapsed.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Yep. As we started in the second half. Yeah. Yeah? Okay. That was the second half. No. Uh okay, so you're tired, right?

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Always.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

Always.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

That's me.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

Do you yawn a lot?

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Do I? Um, I feel like when it's most inconvenient. Okay. That's when I yawn.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Yeah. I I don't think I yawn a lot, but I don't yawn ever. Well, sometimes I do. Okay. But I'm not the, you know, contagious uh yawner.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

You don't yawn when other people yawn.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

No, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Which is something that people typically do.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

Yeah. Do you do that?

SPEAKER_00 24:58

I might without thinking about it. But if I see someone yawn, I feel like I try to fight it.

SPEAKER_05 25:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

It might come, but I I really try not to.

SPEAKER_05 25:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

Sometimes it happens. Whatever. Yeah. Whatever. What you gonna do? I'm also tired.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

We're shar sharing the tiredness.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

Yeah, that's true. So yeah, I was thinking maybe we should talk more about yawning today.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Why do we yawn?

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Why?

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Why? Isn't it like there's a lack of oxygen in the room?

SPEAKER_02 25:30

I've heard uh a few theories about why we were yawning.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Okay. Do you have answers?

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Maybe. I haven't really read through all of this.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

You don't know what you're gonna tell me today. No. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

So I guess we're gonna find out.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

Okay. Yawning is one of the most familiar familiar human behaviors, and also one of the least fully understood. Make sense? It appears in humans before birth, spreads socially, changes with age and disease, and shows up across mammals, birds, reptiles, and even some fish.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Fish yawn.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Fish yawn. So what a yawn actually is. A yawn no a typical yawn has uh a recognizable sequence. Why?

SPEAKER_00 26:20

I'm sorry. I'm I'm kind of laughing because now I'm like getting Swedish and English kind of mixed up. So I like the Yawn Yawn is a male name. Yeah. So now I'm just comparing this to actual yawn.

SPEAKER_02 26:36

Yeah. Instead of uh You're thinking about someone. Yeah. Okay. So a typical now we can't get there. A typical man has a recognizable sequence. Okay. Number one. Slow mouth. Slow mouth. This was a bad idea. Yeah. It's your fault.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

Yes, this is my fault.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Yeah. Slow mouth opening and deep inhalation. Did I say that right? Yes, you did. Number two. Stretch. Oh, this is gonna be like three hours. Stretching of jaw, face, and some some sometimes limbs. Number two.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

Oh yeah, because you stretch your arms out when you uh yawn. Yeah. It's not yawn who does that.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

Not only yawn does that.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

No, you also yawn.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

Yeah. Am I also yawned?

SPEAKER_00 27:39

You're also yawned.

SPEAKER_02 27:40

Okay, I'm I got a new name, I guess. Alright. Uh number three. Brief peak tension.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

Stop. What? What are you saying? What is what are you say what are what?

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Brief peak tension. That's number three.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Number three. Okay. Oh yeah, when you get to the peak of your yawn, then it like there's some tension.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

Oh yeah. Okay. If it's a big one. Sometimes you like uh vibrate. You vibrate, yeah. Um is it a good vibration? Good, good, good, good vibrations. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

It's that good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

The best kind of vibrations.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Maybe. I don't know. Uh number four, and the last one of the sequences. Slow uh exhalation and relaxation.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Okay. So now you've gone through all of the stages of a yawn.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

Yeah. So now that's like evolution.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

Yeah. Yawn is a Pokemon now.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Yeah. Yeah. So what what are you do they call them like uh the shiny shiny ones? Yeah. Aren't the Pokemons shiny sometimes?

SPEAKER_00 28:52

Sometimes they're shiny. They're those are rare though.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Yeah, okay. So that's number four.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

No. No. That would be the last evolution.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

Sometimes there's more than three evolutions.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Yeah. Um and th this was like four stages.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

Yeah. Sometimes there's only one evolution. And then sometimes the evolution depends on the gender of the Pokemon.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

So if it's a male, it'll turn into this one. And then if it's a female, it turns into another one.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Ah. Okay. So do you know if Pokemons yawn?

SPEAKER_00 29:27

Yes, they do.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

They do.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

I've seen Pikachu sleep before.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

I think there's a whole episode on Pikachu sleeping. No, I'm not even joking.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

No, uh, no, I'm I I believe you.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

We're gonna watch it. No, we're not. We don't have to. I wouldn't mind watching the entire first season. But hey. Anyway, we're not talking about Pokemon. That's a different episode, I think.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

Maybe we should could do that for.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Yeah, I probably could talk years about Pokemon.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

Maybe we can save it for like the Pokemon movies.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

Maybe we'll talk about Pokemon during the Pokemon movies.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:02

Or after.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

Okay, now back to the Yawn part.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Right. We're talking about Yawn in his different evolutions.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

But now we're gonna move on.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

Yeah. So a full yawn usually lasts four to seven seconds.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

Stop. Stop.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

What?

SPEAKER_00 30:20

Okay. Four to seven seconds.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

Four to seven.

unknown 30:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

Not forty-seven.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Not forty-seven seconds. Okay. Okay. That's too much information. I don't really want to know this.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

Okay. Okay, so you don't want to know what I don't want to know about yawn.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

I can't listen to this. Keep going.

SPEAKER_02 30:46

It involves coordinated activation of respiratory muscles. Facial muscles. Jaw muscles. Autonomic nervous system pathways. Brain.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Auton auto what?

SPEAKER_02 31:01

Autonomic.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

Oh well. Where are you? Autonomic. Oh, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

Autonomic.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Close enough. I don't really know.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

Autonomic.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Automatic.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

Automatic.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Automatic.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Autonomic. I don't know the m- I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

Okay. We're talking about yawn.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

Yeah, okay. I know yawn. Okay. And brainstem circuits. Surgery. Circuits. Circuits. Okay. Circus.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

Not surgery. No. Okay. Yawning requires surgery.

SPEAKER_02 31:39

Yeah. On the brain stem. Yeah. Or a brainstem circus. Circus. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

That sounds extremely uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

So then what? Yawning is partly voluntary, but mostly automatic. You can trigger one intentionally, suppress one temporarily, or catch one involuntarily. Involuntarily.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

Involuntarily.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

These are difficult words.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

They are words.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

So why do we yawn?

SPEAKER_00 32:14

Why do we yawn? Why do we deal with yawn? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

Why? Why yawn?

SPEAKER_00 32:20

Why yawn?

SPEAKER_02 32:21

There's no single accepted explanation.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

Why we deal with yawn. It's just something we all do.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

Yeah, you know. Scientists think yawning likely serves multiple functions. Like what? Number one. Brain temperature temporary pr temperature. Temperature. Temperature. Temperature. Temperature.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Temperature.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

Yeah. Regulation. You know what I mean. Leading mob.

SPEAKER_00 32:53

How about we say temp?

SPEAKER_02 32:55

Yeah, okay. Brain temp regulation. It's all the other words.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

Rig just gonna shorten all the words that you can't pronounce.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Yeah, brain temp rig. Brain temp reg. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:09

We all know what that means.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Yeah. One strong hypothesis.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

Hypothesis.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

Hypothesis. Hypothesis.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Hypothesis.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

Hypothesis.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Yay.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

Is that yawning cools the brain?

SPEAKER_00 33:25

Is it overheating?

SPEAKER_02 33:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

Yeah. The idea.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

Deep inhalation changes blood flow.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

Does it?

SPEAKER_02 33:35

That's the idea.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

Where's the blood flowing to? Does it change directions like a train?

SPEAKER_02 33:40

Ask yawn.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

It's changing the train tracks?

SPEAKER_02 33:44

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

So jaw stretching increases circulation.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

Okay. What what's happening when my jaw cracks when I yawn? I hate that. It just recently started happening. Should I like this year?

SPEAKER_02 34:00

Ask.

SPEAKER_00 34:00

Yeah. And then we'll get back to it later. But I hate it. It's the worst thing in the world. It's like my life is ending. Are we gonna answer that? Now or later?

SPEAKER_02 34:10

Later.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

So we're still at the idea of Why do we yawn? Yeah. Airflow through nas nasal.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

National national.

SPEAKER_02 34:22

National. No, airflow through nasal and oral cavities helps heat exchange.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

You said a lot of words, and I didn't he I didn't understand any of them.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Airflow.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

Right.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

Through nasal and oral cavities.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Right. So in the nose and in the mouth.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Did you hear?

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Yeah, that was disgusting. Don't do that again.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

Helps heat exchange.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Heat exchange. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 34:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

So it helps the heat exchange. Okay. Yeah, because the things are changing flow and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

Yeah, so it it helps the blood, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Cool down.

SPEAKER_00 35:01

In your face. Yeah. Head.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Yeah. Cooler blood may slightly reduce brain temp.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

Tumors.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

Brain temp.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

I'm not gonna say the word No.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

We all know what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

Yeah. And here's the evidence for that.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

People yawn more when overheated.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Do we? I thought it was when we're tired.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

Yeah, I guess we're maybe we're tired because we're overheated. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 35:26

So there was something behind the tired.

SPEAKER_02 35:29

So would you yawn more after a workout?

SPEAKER_00 35:32

I feel like I'm a little bit more alert after a workout.

SPEAKER_02 35:37

But you should be overheated, right?

SPEAKER_00 35:39

I I mean maybe in a stuffy room when you're at a meeting, it's probably overheated in the room and then you start yawning. Not because the meeting's boring, but because there's no air, there's too much heat in the room.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

True. And also when you work out, you it's the sweat. Right. The sweat also cools you down, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Everything opens up.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

So you have the blood flow. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We're sticking with that one.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Solve that.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

Yep. Done.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

Nasal breathing and forehead cooling can reduce yawning frequency.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Okay, so if you see someone yawning, you just throw a wet uh handcloth on them.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

On their forehead.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

Yeah. Uh a wet cloth on their forehead and be like, stop that.

SPEAKER_02 36:27

You should always be prepared with the wet cloth. Wet cloth.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

That is a life hack. A life hack. I am that is advice for everyone. Always have a wet cloth on you. You never know.

SPEAKER_02 36:39

In case of yawn.

SPEAKER_00 36:40

In case of yawn. I'm gonna make uh cloths that have it printed on them in case of yawn. And then you just put it underwater and then you smack it on someone's head. Enough.

SPEAKER_02 36:57

Okay. Animal studies show small drops in brain temp after yawns.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

Alright, so yeah. Okay, that's that's what we were saying.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:09

But now it's evidence in animals.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

The cooling effect is subtle, not dramatic.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

No drama there.

SPEAKER_00 37:18

So it's gonna be a lot of yawning if you want to dramatically decrease the temp temp in your brain or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

Something like that.

SPEAKER_00 37:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

So number two.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

Wow. What?

SPEAKER_02 37:34

That was the first part of why do we yawn?

SPEAKER_00 37:37

Oh, okay. Okay. This is the second theory, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 37:41

Yeah. State change and alertness regulation.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

State change?

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

Like you go to a different state. Yeah. Like if I go from New Hampshire to Vermont, I start yawning.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

Yeah. Have you ever noticed?

SPEAKER_00 37:54

I will notice next time I find out.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

Yeah, you should.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

Yawning commonly occurs dur during transitions.

SPEAKER_00 38:07

From state to state.

SPEAKER_02 38:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Like waking up.

SPEAKER_00 38:10

Uh-huh. Yeah, well, that's when you yawn the most.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

Yeah. When you get tired. Yeah. I mean, when you uh drive to another go to another state and you're waking up as you go there.

SPEAKER_00 38:23

Yeah. Because you were sleeping at the beginning of the trip. And then by the time you get to your destination, then you're awake.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:31

And that's when you start yawning.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

And I don't think that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

No. And also falling asleep while driving?

SPEAKER_00 38:38

Yeah. Will make you yawn. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

Boredom.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

Right.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

Switching tasks.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

Boring.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:46

I liked the first task.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:50

I was forced to switch my tasks.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Yeah. I was driving, now I'm sleeping.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

I find that kind of boring. So now I'm gonna start yawning.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:59

So uh I liked it more when I was awake.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

Yeah. Prolonged concentration.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

Okay. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 39:07

Yeah. Stress anticipation.

SPEAKER_00 39:10

Oh, when you anticipate stress, that's when you start yawning.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

Yeah. It's just yep.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

Yep. I feel it coming.

SPEAKER_02 39:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

I don't know. I've never uh noticed that.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

No, no, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

Next time you yawn, you need to like track what are you doing? What's the temperature? What were you just doing? Why am I yawning?

SPEAKER_02 39:31

Why did I switch tasks?

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Why did I switch tasks? Am I stressed? Yeah. Am I tired? Am I bored? Am I at a meeting? What am I doing?

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Yeah. So that's so this is something we're gonna start texting each other. I just yawned.

SPEAKER_02 39:45

Yeah. What am I doing?

SPEAKER_00 39:47

Okay. What are you doing? Well, I'm sitting here and I was just doing this and now I'm doing that. And then I yawned.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

We all panic over a yawn.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

Okay. This suggests yawning may help reset arousal systems.

SPEAKER_00 40:05

Wow. Yawn does that?

SPEAKER_02 40:07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 40:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

Few people know it.

SPEAKER_00 40:09

I probably should contact yawn to readjust my arousal systems.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Yeah. So a yawn activates sympathetic nervous system activity.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

Heart rate changes. Increased muscle tension. Brief increases in alertness. This is why people often yawn.

SPEAKER_00 40:31

Please tell me.

SPEAKER_02 40:32

Before exams? Why?

SPEAKER_00 40:35

Oh, you yawn before an exam probably because of the stress factor.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

Yeah, and also you're tired.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

And also you don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

Yeah, and also you're overheated.

SPEAKER_00 40:44

Yep, from the stress.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

Yeah. Before athletic performance.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

Exhausting. Actually, that's when I have to pee.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

So maybe we should do that next. Why do we have to pee?

SPEAKER_02 40:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:57

Is it because I'm nervous? Am I constantly nervous? Is that why I pee so much?

SPEAKER_02 41:01

Maybe you're overheated.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

Then I'd be yawning.

SPEAKER_02 41:04

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:05

Maybe I I was thinking maybe release the heat from my body.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

I don't know. Do you stretch muscles when you pee?

SPEAKER_00 41:14

Depending on where I am. If I'm on the side of the road, I'm definitely doing some stretches.

SPEAKER_02 41:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

If I'm on the toilet, oh, does what crack?

SPEAKER_02 41:23

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 41:24

Okay. I hope there's no cracking anywhere. Maybe my knees as I'm going down.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

On the toilet, I do not do much stretching.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

No.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

That felt scary for a minute. Just like my entire pelvic bone just cracks as I'm on the bottom. Oh no.

unknown 41:42

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

Not again.

unknown 41:45

Help.

SPEAKER_00 41:47

How embarrassing would that be if you had to call the ambulance while peeing on the side of the road? Maybe not you, but me. And be like, hi, I I need help because my pelvic bone broke as I was trying to go pee on the side of the road. In public, of course.

SPEAKER_05 42:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

And then they're gonna be like, we need to get the police involved because you're not supposed to do that. Then I'd be like, okay, but my pelvic bro bone is broken. Help me. Yeah. Like, no, we need to get the police involved instead. You have to go to jail. With a broken pelvic bone? Okay. Yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

You're a crook.

SPEAKER_00 42:22

Yeah. You're a prisoner. What got you in here? I peed on the side of the road and I broke my pelvic bone.

SPEAKER_02 42:29

Yeah, you're a cracked crook.

SPEAKER_00 42:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:32

Okay. So before public speaking. This is why people often yawn, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

That's why I yawn.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

Yeah, before public speaking.

SPEAKER_00 42:42

Okay. I feel like I'm shaking during all of these. I'm just shaking. I don't think I'm yawning. I'm shaking.

SPEAKER_02 42:48

Yeah, and this one is kind of weird. Before parachute jumps.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

I haven't done that. No. I'm not going to test that one out.

SPEAKER_02 42:57

It it's there like it's a common thing to do.

SPEAKER_00 43:00

You know, meetings, exams, skydiving. You know.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Yeah. The things you do.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

Yeah. Every day. Yeah. Normal things.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

Going to work now. Jump off out of my plane.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

Jump off a building. Yeah. Going to work. I'm a construction worker.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Yeah. So yeah, those were. Or a superhero. Sorry. But many animals yawn before periods of activity.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

So they're aware that they're gonna have periods of activity.

SPEAKER_02 43:35

I guess so.

SPEAKER_00 43:35

Okay. They're preparing.

SPEAKER_02 43:37

Yeah. So they're planning?

SPEAKER_00 43:38

They're planning ahead.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

Oh, okay, cool.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

Prepping by yawning.

SPEAKER_02 43:42

Yeah. Number three. Social commun communication.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

This is how we talk.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

Oh, we're telling each other we're bored or overheated or stressed.

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Yeah. Or something. In many species.

SPEAKER_00 43:55

Species.

SPEAKER_02 43:55

Species, yawning acts as a social signal. In primates, yawns can communicate tiredness, tension, social status. Uh I'm better than you.

SPEAKER_00 44:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:10

Mild threat display synchronization of group behavior.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

So I mean if you're an animal and you're trying to communicate this, but it has so many meanings, how do you know there could easily be a miscommunication? Yeah. Like you yawn and then you're saying that you're tired, but the other person is like, you think you're better than me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

I mean, if you think about it, it's kind of like that for uh for people too. I mean, if someone uh is talking.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

No, my ear is itchy.

SPEAKER_02 44:42

Okay. Uh so if you're talking and someone starts yawning as you're talking, that m then That means you're boring. Yeah, I mean, that's like uh you're so boring that I'm yawning and I'm better than you.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

And then you have to be like, no, I'm just so stressed out.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

Yeah. So yeah, yeah, makes sense to me. Because I often yawn.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Yeah, and then you have to explain why you're yawning.

SPEAKER_02 45:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

Like, no, I'm not bored. I'm just tired or something.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

I'm just stressed.

SPEAKER_00 45:14

I'm not tired, I just yawned. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_02 45:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

Because I think I'm better than you.

SPEAKER_02 45:19

Yeah. Next time I yawn, I sh I I'm gonna say that to someone.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

I just think I'm so much better than you. You're such a waste of time.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

Some monkeys and apes expose what canine teeth during dominance-related yawns.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

Yeah, they're Dracula teeth.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Oh, okay. They're vampire teeth. Vampire teeth.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:42

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

That's a canine teeth.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

Canine, huh? I thought I was a dog.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

It is a dog.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:48

But I don't know, they're fangs.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

Yeah, fangs, that's true. Humans likely retain part of this social synchronization function.

SPEAKER_01 46:00

Yeah. Okay. Cool.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

Now let's move on to contagious yawning.

SPEAKER_00 46:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 46:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:06

Are yawns contagious?

SPEAKER_02 46:08

This is the most psychologist psychologically fascinating type. Seeing, hearing, reading about, or even thinking about yawning can trigger yawns.

SPEAKER_00 46:21

I have not yawned yet, just so you know.

SPEAKER_02 46:23

No, neither have I. You mm that it says you may already feel one forming, but apparently not. Or I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 46:33

I mean, like, if I think about it as like maybe I'll yawn. But it's like so far in the distance that it's like, I don't think I'm actually gonna yawn.

SPEAKER_02 46:41

Yeah. I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

Are you yawning?

SPEAKER_02 46:43

No, okay. Not yet. How contagious is it? Roughly 40 to 60 percent of adults are susceptible under experim experimental conditions.

SPEAKER_00 46:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

Triggers include watching someone yawn, hearing yawning sounds, reading about yawning, and imagining yawning.

SPEAKER_00 47:05

That's something I do on a daily basis. I just all I do every day is think about yawning. Imagine. Imagine all the people yawning yawning. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Why is it contagious? Several theories exist. Empathy slash social bonding hypothesis. Hypothesis. Hypothesis. Wow. Yaw contagious yawning correlates somewhat with emotional sensitivity, social closeness, and group affiliation.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

Okay, so we yawn after our friends.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:46

Yeah. Like I I feel for you, man.

SPEAKER_02 47:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

Yeah. I'm gonna yawn with you.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

Yeah. You're tired or stressed.

SPEAKER_00 47:54

So that's kind of you can test that. So if you yawn and nobody else yawns after you, yeah, they don't care about you.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

They don't like you.

SPEAKER_00 48:02

They don't like you. That's how you know.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:05

That's the secret to life.

SPEAKER_02 48:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:07

Yeah. So if I yawned right now and you didn't yawn after me, then I'd know. And then I'd be like, this isn't working out.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

I sent you a signal, I didn't get it back.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

So Yeah, I mean we're done. Then I don't like anyone because I don't I'm not contagious.

SPEAKER_00 48:21

Or I maybe that's the case.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

Yeah, I guess so.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

I only You don't feel close to anyone.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

No.

unknown 48:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:27

Fine. People are more likely to catch yawns from family, friends, familiar people.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

It's like the chicken pox.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

Some studies found reduced contagious yawning in conditions affecting social cognition. Though results are mixed. Brain imaging links contagious yawning with regions involved in mirror systems, social processing, synchronization, hypothes hypothesis.

SPEAKER_00 49:06

Yeah. Yeah. Hypothesis.

SPEAKER_02 49:08

Yeah. Another idea. Yawning helps groups synchronize vigilance and risk rest cycles.

SPEAKER_00 49:19

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

Vigilance. That sounds like vigilante to me. And that's not that's like uh someone who kills people.

SPEAKER_00 49:27

Yes, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Yeah. It improves the yawning. Yeah. Yawning improves your skills to kill people.

SPEAKER_02 49:36

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

And other things.

SPEAKER_02 49:39

I didn't know that. Yeah. But now I do. Uh in social animals, synchronized state changes can improve group coordination, predator detection, movement timing.

SPEAKER_00 49:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:55

That's what animals do.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

Yeah. When do humans start yawning? Fetuses yawn in the womb by around the second trimester.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 50:05

Newborns yawn frequently.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

Yes. They are tired.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Contagious.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

Or they think they're better than you.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Yeah. I owe me all.

SPEAKER_00 50:17

Like, you're not better than me. Just get all offended by the baby yawning at you.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:24

Who do you think you are? What? Start fighting.

SPEAKER_02 50:28

Yeah, but that's why Rocky never liked his kid thinks he's better than me. Uh contagious yawning appears later. Usually around ages four to six. Sometimes later. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

That's when they yawn.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Uh the contagious yawning.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 50:49

This developmental timing is one reason researchers connect contagious yawning with social cognition development.

SPEAKER_00 50:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 51:00

That's a lot of words. Yes. Difficult words. Okay, these are better words.

SPEAKER_00 51:06

Okay. Here's a list of better words. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

Animals that yawn. Yawning has been observed in dogs. I know that word.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

No cats.

SPEAKER_02 51:17

Cats. Chimpanzees. Oh, that's a big one. Okay. Monkeys, wolves, lions, elephants, birds, reptiles, and fish.

SPEAKER_00 51:28

Yes, they all yawned.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

All yawners.

SPEAKER_00 51:31

And then what?

SPEAKER_02 51:32

Dogs can catch human yawns, especially from their owners.

SPEAKER_05 51:37

Awww.

SPEAKER_02 51:38

That finding attracted attention because it may reflect domesticated social attunement.

SPEAKER_05 51:45

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 51:46

Yep. Okay. That was that. About uh the animals. Uh the neurobiology of yawning.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

Yawning involves a network rather than one yawn center. Important regions include hypothalamus. Yep. Brain stem, reticular activating system, limbic structures.

SPEAKER_00 52:14

Yeah. Yeah. Those This episode just ended up being uh a test for you. Yeah. Can you pronounce these big words?

SPEAKER_02 52:22

Yeah, there are more.

SPEAKER_00 52:24

There is more. Yeah. Alright, we're not done.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

The neurotransmitter most strongly associated with yawning is dopamine. Other involved chemicals. Oxytocin.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

Mm-hmm. That's a drug.

SPEAKER_02 52:38

Yeah. Acetylin.

SPEAKER_00 52:44

Attila the hunt.

SPEAKER_02 52:45

Oh yeah. Attila the hunt. That's the one.

SPEAKER_00 52:47

What was it? Acetaminophane.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

Yeah, that's one. Uh no.

SPEAKER_00 52:51

Acetylin.

SPEAKER_02 52:53

Acetylocalin.

SPEAKER_00 52:54

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 52:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

Let's say that.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

Serotonin.

SPEAKER_00 52:57

Yeah. Serotonin.

SPEAKER_02 52:58

Nitric oxide. Yeah. ACTH hormones.

SPEAKER_00 53:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 53:05

Those ones.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

Those are the chemicals. Glad I'm over with that one's over. Uh the hypothalamic hypothalamic paraventricular nucleus uh appears especially important. Experiments show certain drugs that increase dopamine signaling can increase yawning. What about sighing?

SPEAKER_00 53:34

Let's learn about sighing.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

Yeah. You do that one.

SPEAKER_00 53:38

No.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Okay. So next thing. Why yawns feel satisfying?

SPEAKER_00 53:45

Do they though? Sometimes they just feel like annoying. I feel like why can't we stop?

SPEAKER_02 53:51

Yeah. And sometimes you never finish a yawn.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

Yeah, you just like stop in the middle. Yeah. You'll be like, okay, where to go? Like a sneeze. We need to talk about sneezes.

SPEAKER_02 54:01

I think we've done that.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

Have we we talked about having allergies?

SPEAKER_02 54:05

Yeah, okay. Yeah, we we mostly talked about like how you uh what you would say and uh how you Yeah and also if your eyeballs would pop out.

SPEAKER_00 54:16

Oh yeah if you had your eyes open.

SPEAKER_02 54:19

Yeah. So why yawns feel satisfying? Yawns combine deep breathing, muscular stretching, autonomic shifts, sensory stimulation. Stimulation, yeah. This creates a noticeable reset sensation.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

But what if it's not satisfying and just makes things worse?

SPEAKER_02 54:41

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 54:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:43

Some researchers compare yawning to a mini whole body rec recalibration. Recalibration event.

SPEAKER_00 54:52

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

That's the words. Yeah. The relief after a yawn may come from nowhere, because it doesn't exist. Altered arousal. No. Muscle release, respiratory changes, attentional resetting. Okay. Yeah. Sure. That was that. Common myths. Yawning means you need oxygen.

SPEAKER_00 55:19

Which is what I said.

SPEAKER_02 55:20

Yeah. This old theory is largely unsupported. Experiments changing oxygen and carbon dioxide levels generally do not strongly alter yawning rates in normal conditions.

SPEAKER_00 55:39

Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

Deep breathing alone does not reliably suppress yawning. Okay. Next, yawning only means boredom. Not true.

SPEAKER_00 55:52

Well, we already knew that. We thought it was tired.

SPEAKER_02 55:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Also could have been boring.

SPEAKER_02 55:57

Yeah. People also yawn during high stress, intense anticipation, fatigue, transition in attention, social contagion. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

Oh yeah. Contagiousness.

SPEAKER_02 56:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:10

So yeah, it's tired and the what will to transition your focus?

SPEAKER_02 56:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:17

Which is boredom.

SPEAKER_02 56:18

Yeah. Boring.

SPEAKER_00 56:20

I would call that boredom.

SPEAKER_02 56:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

So open eyes is contradicting itself. It's not specifically boredom, but it is the lack of interest in whatever you are currently doing.

SPEAKER_02 56:33

I guess so. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 56:34

Not boredom though. We're not gonna use that word. It's a strong word. Yeah. We're going to dance around that.

SPEAKER_02 56:41

That's a trigger word.

SPEAKER_00 56:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trigger warning. Sorry. Yeah. I forgot to put that in there. You might yawn.

SPEAKER_02 56:48

Uh elite athletes and musicians often yawn before performances.

SPEAKER_00 56:55

They're tired. It's late.

SPEAKER_02 56:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:58

Okay. Did you just yawn?

SPEAKER_02 57:00

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 57:02

Are you bored? You think you're better than me? Yeah. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

Excessive yawning. Frequent yawning can be harmless, but sometimes it signals an underlying issue. Issue. Issue.

SPEAKER_00 57:15

That was a sneeze.

SPEAKER_02 57:16

Proves it.

SPEAKER_00 57:17

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Possible causes. Sleep deprivation, sleep apnea, medication side effects, anxiety, overheating, rarely associated with Parkinson Parkinson's disease.

SPEAKER_01 57:33

Parking disease. Parking disease. Parking tickets.

SPEAKER_02 57:38

Epilepsy, migraine, stroke, multiple scal sclerosis.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

Stone.

SPEAKER_02 57:46

MS. It's easier to say MS.

SPEAKER_00 57:49

If you know what that means, then it's easier to say that.

SPEAKER_02 57:52

Yeah. Okay. So you you don't know MS.

SPEAKER_00 57:55

I know uh uh multiple sclerosis.

SPEAKER_02 57:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 57:59

Scoliosis.

SPEAKER_02 58:01

Yeah, uh I I only say MS.

SPEAKER_00 58:03

Okay. If you know what it means.

SPEAKER_02 58:05

I I know what it means.

SPEAKER_00 58:07

Okay, then you can say that.

SPEAKER_02 58:08

Yeah. MS.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

But it's important that the other person knows what that is too. Because MS could stand for medical staring.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

Yeah, which is a thing.

SPEAKER_00 58:21

I'm not just looking, I'm medically staring. Yeah. Okay, it's part of my job.

SPEAKER_02 58:26

Yeah, I'm looking for cancer.

SPEAKER_00 58:28

Staring.

SPEAKER_02 58:30

I have X-ray eyes. Or something. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:35

But it would be called medical staring instead of x-ray eyes, just to dance around the words.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

Yeah. You might have breast cancer.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Stop.

SPEAKER_02 58:45

Okay. Uh some antidepressants can increase yawning significantly. Yes. Medical attention is worth considering if yawning is sudden and extreme.

SPEAKER_01 59:03

I yawn.

SPEAKER_00 59:04

Help. Yeah, like medical attention. This is a bad episode for the hop hypochondrics who are gonna yawn and then have a panic attack because there might be something wrong with that.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

Yeah, extreme yawning.

SPEAKER_00 59:19

What is that? It's like if you cannot stop yawning.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

I guess so.

SPEAKER_00 59:25

And then what? How do you how do you call for help if you're yawning? Like, oh you sound like a freaking dying man.

SPEAKER_02 59:35

Calling the 911 or 112.

SPEAKER_01 59:41

Like, hello, sir, how old are you? Are you okay?

SPEAKER_02 59:50

You think you're better than me?

SPEAKER_00 59:52

Excuse me, sir. I don't appreciate the attitude.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

Okay, more of the medical attention. Uh if yawning is accompanied or yeah, accompanied by fainting or neurological symptoms. That's not good. No, you shouldn't like falling asleep.

unknown 1:00:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:19

I yawned and then I fell asleep. Yeah. While on the phone with the oh, with the 911 emergency services.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:27

Yeah. Uh interfering with daily life.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:31

What if I'm sorry. What if you are a narcoleptic who has yawning problems? Because then you just fall asleep. Yeah. You yawn a lot and then you fall asleep. And then everyone's like, oh well, that's normal.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

All you remember is yawning.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:46

Yeah. And then you wake up and you just keep yawning. Yeah. And then you fall asleep. And everyone just thinks, oh, well, he yawns because he is narcoleptic and he's gonna fall asleep anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:56

He's tired.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:56

He's just really tired.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:00

I'm sorry. What?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:02

Linked to severe daytime sleepiness.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:05

Daytime sleepiness. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:08

Uh cultural and historical views. Histor history lesson.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

Okay. Cultural and historical views.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

Yeah, this is the new Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:18

So is it based on your religion how much you yawn?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:20

Maybe. Okay. We'll see.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:22

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:22

Yawning has accumulated a surprising amount of fork fork lore. Folklore. Forklore. Forklore. The history of forks. Okay. No. Historically, people believed yawning released evil spirits.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

Exploded.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:48

Also bonfires.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:50

So yawning rolls. And if you go to the bonfire, you have to start yawning, and then you really kill the evil spirits.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:56

Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's uh the bonfire is really warm, so it's in the evening. Yeah, you're overheated. So you might yawn a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:06

And since it's in the evening and you're probably tired at that point, and you really just gather around the bonfire just to yawn the evil spirits away.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:16

Okay. Then uh then I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:18

Yeah. And people believed yawning exposed the soul.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:23

But but we also said this about sneezing. Sneezing had the same effect with the evil spirits and the soul exposing or releasing whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

Yawning and sneezing are related.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:36

They are in the same category.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:38

Huh.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:39

They're both weapons against evil spirits. Yeah. One might be a bit more aggressive and the other one might be a little bit more subtle.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:48

I yeah, and also one is more like inhaling or then you're taking in it, taking it in, and the other one is the opposite of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

Like I have a really unfortunate situation that I thought of now. What if you yawn right after someone sneezed? Then you're soaking in all of their disgusting germs like Kirby. Yeah. And just like inhaling everything. Then you turn into a balloon and then you float away.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:17

And you're probably sick too because you got all their germs inside you.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

I guess you're exha exchanging the evil spirits. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:27

That's not good.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:28

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:29

Have my evil spirits. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:34

Reflected spiritual vulnerability.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:40

That's a good one. Yeah. I like that one. That's the title. If you can spell that out. Yeah. Vul vul vulvo vulvability.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:51

Vulva. So able vulva. Vulnerability. Yeah. You know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:04

Okay. This contribute contributed.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:09

Contributed.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:10

Yeah. To the custom of uh uh covering the mouth. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:16

So that you don't suck in evil spirits?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:19

Or are you keeping them to yourself?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:20

Yeah. I uh I I think I can't have my evil spirits. No. These are mine. Mine. Evil spirits.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:28

Protect the evil spirits. Don't let them escape.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:33

Yeah, so and today the gesture gesturer gesture.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:38

Jester.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:39

Gesture remains mostly etiquette and hygiene.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:43

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:44

Hygiene.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:45

Hygiene, I'm assuming would be similar to the sneeze.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:49

Yeah, so that's for yourself, not others.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

I think. Like you're keeping your germs to yourself.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:56

Yeah. So that you don't spread.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:58

Well, it can't really s uh a yawn can spread, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:02

You yawn in and then you go, right? Okay. You have the exhale.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:07

So it could be both. You could be protecting yourself and others. I was told in school that it was like rude to yawn without covering your mouth.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:16

Yeah. I remember doing that in class once.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

Getting yelled at for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:21

Yeah. The old uh teacher, he was an old guy. Yeah. And he's like, oh, I'm falling into your mouth.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:28

That's disgusting. Get out of there. What are you doing, you weirdo? Get out.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:35

Get out of my mouth.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:36

You don't belong there, sir. You should have reported that guy. This guy was in my mouth. I didn't. As soon as I yawned, he got he took the opportunity. He jumped right into my mouth. Awful. That explains a lot of your trauma, and that's probably why you can't cry. You had a man in your mouth.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:03

Okay. Interesting facts.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:06

Sorry. Are you continuing?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:10

Yeah, I want you to know all of this. All right, all right.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:14

I I want to know. I want to know everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:17

Okay. Blind people can catch yawns through sound alone.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:22

That's right. Blind people can yawn too.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:24

Yeah. Few people know something. So can deaf people well they see people yawn. If you're blind and deaf. Deaf. And possibly deaf. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:40

If you're blind and dead, you still can yawn.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:45

Blind dead people yawn a lot, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:48

I guess so. They're very tired. Just eternally sleeping.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:53

Yeah. Oh my god. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:57

We need to keep going.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:58

Some parrots, parrots. Some parrots show contagious yawning-like behavior.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:05

They're just imitating. They're making fun of you.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:08

That's all they do with their lives, is make fun of people.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:11

Yeah. Yawning frequency uh tends to decline with age.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:16

Oh, good. We're gonna stop yawning at some point, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:19

When we die?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:20

I no, because maybe not. Unless you're blind enough.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:23

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:24

And then you're gonna keep yawning. Yeah. I was gonna say breathing, but you know. No, that's not the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:29

Keep your eyesight when you die. Right. Keep your eyes open. Average adults yawn roughly five to twenty times daily.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:38

Because we're all boring. Yeah. Bored and boring people. Tired and trying to shove our social statuses into other people's faces. And we're stressed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:48

Yawn.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:49

Open scientific questions. I I had a question because this we uh discussed this at work.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:58

So are you a psychopath if you're not contagious to yawning?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:02

Right. That's important to know.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:04

Yeah, because people often call me a psychopath because I don't yawn when other people.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:09

No, but we discovered that it's just because you don't care about anyone.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:12

Yeah, and like a psychopath.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:14

But you probably yawn after you yawn, right? Because you only care about yourself.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:20

Double yawns?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:21

Yeah. You are contagious to your own yawns.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:25

Yeah, yeah, especially if I'm in front of a mirror.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:28

Yeah, yeah. You see yourself yawn and then you start yawning.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:32

Yeah. Uh so am I a psychopath? No. Oh. Not being susceptible to contagious yawning does not mean you're a psychopath.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:42

Is there science backing this up?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:44

That idea uh came from a real line of research, but it got exaggerated online. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:53

Oh, so ever whoever brought this up first, they just got it from the internet.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:57

Yeah. And yeah. Some studies found that people with higher levels of certain psychopathic traits showed slightly reduced contagious yawning. But the effect is uh statistical and weak, not diagnostic.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:15

Alright, so you're not a psychopath?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:17

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:17

Okay. Is that next? Next question. Why does the jaw crack when we yawn?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:24

Good question.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:25

That's a really good question.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:27

I need to read all of this one.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:29

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:30

Uh jaw cracking during yawning is usually caused by movement in the temporal joint.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:42

TMJ.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:43

Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:44

The Michael Jackson. Um in your jaw. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:49

Is it because you yawned so big that he just jumped into your mouth?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:53

Yeah. That's what my cracks sound.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:59

Ew, stop. But yeah, shut up.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:04

Okay. Uh the hinge joint connecting your jaw to your skull. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:12

Yes, that's what that was.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:14

Uh the TMJ is one of the most complex joints in the body because it's both rotates, slide forward and backward.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:24

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:25

D did you want to know more about this?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:27

Um, no. No. Because it's gross.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:29

Yeah. Why does it sometimes not feel satisfying after a yawn? Usually the yawn didn't fully complete neurologically or physically. Common reasons are stress, anxiety, muscle tension, shallow breathing, fatigue, trying to force the yawn. I feel that like that might be yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:54

Like I kind of feel like I have to yawn, so I'm just gonna force myself.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:57

Yeah, exactly. And then you can't really because and I think also when you think about it, you you should just let your body do what it does. Yeah. But then you start thinking about it. It's like sneezing too.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:11

Yeah. Like trying to force a sneeze.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:13

You just can't do it. No, it's impossible.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:17

Um your brain still feels like it needs the reset, so the yawn feels incomplete. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:24

Alright. Well, I feel like we learned way too much about yawning today. And I'm I'm gonna cut it off there.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:31

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:32

That's enough of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:33

That's too much. Too much information.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:35

Too much of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:36

Too much of that. Alright. Um, so I feel like we need to reach the end of this episode. Yes. So would you like to tell me what is ruining your life?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:47

Yes. What's ruining my life is that yesterday I tried to get new shoes, but they closed two hours early, and I took uh uh one hour off from my job just to get there in time, and then they were closed. They were closed. And that I didn't like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:07

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Some people found it funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:10

All the way home.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:11

Yeah. But yeah, um that's uh so now I have to f find another time to get those shoes.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:20

That's what's ruining my life. Alright. What's ruining your life?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:24

I'm gonna say math.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:25

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:26

I'm not doing well in math.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:28

I took a test.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:29

Yeah, you redid one test, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:32

Right. I redid the first test that I did.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:35

Which was the second?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:36

Which was the second test. And I only got four, correct, out of twenty-one.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:43

So I I and I know that my teacher has reached out to me to tell me that I I did really bad and you need to work on this, this, and this. And I um I am ashamed.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:56

I'm not good at math, but I'm in this class anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:00

Yeah. I don't know if I can help you. I don't know how to math, to count. I don't know what what you're doing, really. I don't know what I'm doing either, and that's the problem. Clearly.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:12

So that's that's that.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:15

Um, yeah. Okay. Are you all out of sips?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:18

Yes. I'm all out of sips, and that means we're all out of episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:22

So let's wrap this up.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:25

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SPEAKER_02 1:13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:29

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SPEAKER_02 1:13:34

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SPEAKER_00 1:13:35

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SPEAKER_02 1:13:38

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SPEAKER_00 1:13:39

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SPEAKER_02 1:13:52

Yeah, it's probably gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:54

And we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:55

Alright, we'll be back then. Thank you again.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:59

And yeah, see you next week.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:01

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SPEAKER_02 1:14:02

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SPEAKER_00 1:14:03

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SPEAKER_00 1:14:39

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SPEAKER_02 1:14:41

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