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In this episode of the Pine Pony Podcast, we break down the Super Bowl, discussing the Eagles' dominant performance, the Chiefs' failures, and all the crazy commercials. We dive into conspiracy theories around the Dallas Mavericks and talk about the latest NFL player news. We also share our thoughts on the halftime show and take a look ahead to the most interesting off-season storylines for teams like the Vikings and Bengals. Tune in for our takes on which players might be on the move, including Tee Higgins and potential off-season drama. Don't miss our wrap-up of the NFL season and get ready for exciting off-season speculation!

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Jason:

Welcome, welcome to another edition of the Pine Pony Podcast. Hey o. It's me, D. O. G., along as always, the fancy uncle. What's happening, Persian? Howdy, howdy.

Prshin:

Glad to be back. Caw caw, caw caw, fly eagles fly. How you doing, man?

Jason:

Yeah, Super Bowl was quite the watch. It was quite the watch. Well, with that being said, I mean, that's, that's what we're here to discuss. So let's get into it. Let's start the show.

The Pied Pony Podcast.

Jason:

Before we start the super bowl, I wanted to throw this conspiracy theory out there for you, this, this scandal that is the Dallas Mavericks.

Prshin:

Oh

Jason:

boy. So I came across. This scandal. So Mark Cuban sold the Mavericks to some lady that it doesn't matter what their name is. And she wanted to update the, like do a new arena and attach a casino to the arena. But the Dallas said, no, you can't do that.

Prshin:

Okay.

Jason:

So like the city of Dallas. Yeah, they said you can't do that. They said you can't do that and then, you know, she can't like outright like just trade, you know I don't know, anyway, but anyway, so what she's, so what she's doing is She traded away Luka Doncic in order to make the team bad To move them out of Dallas to Las Vegas

Prshin:

What?

Jason:

Yeah, it was all a ploy to move Dallas, the Mavericks, to Las Vegas. Yeah. So,

Prshin:

have, have, have any parts of that been confirmed or is that

Jason:

just like a rumor going around? Oh, no, no. This is not even a rumor going around. This is like somebody just. Just, just drawing the dot. They're just, they've, they're, they're still on the chalkboard with the, the red strings, you saw their argument and you thought, you know

Prshin:

what? It's not that crazy.

Jason:

I mean, you know, whatever. I just thought it was funny, but I hope that

Prshin:

would be that would be a cool timeline to be in. This one has not been doing it for me as of late. So let's, let's try that. Let's try that.

Jason:

Up in news, the news, the dominoes are falling in New York. Aaron Glenn has said Aaron Rodgers, no more Pat McAfee. You show up in mandatory meetings, or you don't play in New York. Oh man, I love it. All signs are pointing to him not playing in New York. I love it. So, he said last year that football was, anything non football related has to go away. He refused to do that. Then he went on vacation, by the way. And is now proving that he does not care about football by choosing to not, to not just conform and be a team player.

Prshin:

Yes.

Jason:

Good riddance. I don't even know, like, where does he go? Who picks him up? San Fran? Minnesota? Raiders? I mean, I could see the Raiders doing that, like, I could. Brady's not picking up Aaron Rodgers, why would he do that?

Prshin:

Well, just Brady's like bro. You're washed my my thing. Is that like the rumors are that the Raiders? Really are not in on any of these first round quarterbacks So that means maybe they'll try to trade for like a cousins Maybe they'll let Daniel Jones, but it basically I think what the Raiders are gonna be looking for is just like a one year Bridge quarterback situation. And so I guess you could do like Rogers last year. It could be in there

Jason:

then. Right. And that is what the Jets were probably looking forward to is like a one to two year bridge quarterback situation. And next thing you know, the, the coach is fired.

Prshin:

Yeah.

Jason:

Like they're terrible. And then all the pieces that you brought in are now, now you've got, so you're getting rid of Rogers. That's, you're definitely getting rid of Devontae Adams. I mean, look, I love Devontae and some Packers players are trying to get him to come back. They're getting rid of Alan

Prshin:

Lazar.

Jason:

The only way I'm taking Devontae Adams back is like, I'm not, he's not getting like max salary. Like, he's going to get a lower, lower deal.

Prshin:

Yeah,

Jason:

first like he's just like he's he's kind of had a little bit of a down step since leaving Green Bay So

Prshin:

my guess is that he like his market value Amongst teams in general has gone down. I gotta think but

Jason:

I don't think Green Bay we even would want Devante. I think they're More interested in like trying to do something for like a T Higgins or one of those younger guys that is, is trying to be

Prshin:

definitely built for like the long view, I guess if the price is right, why not, you know? Right. Right. But I agree, but I don't think they're necessarily like anxious to like change the complexion of their team with bunch of sort of like rental guys. They, they really want to and have done pretty well in the past few years of getting guys young and just trying to develop that sort of homegrown their own sort of like bring them in. And the thing is that when you have, Older guys on your roster, then that is one less younger guy that might hit, that might develop for you. So, I'm sure they would if he was like, yo, I'll come back on a cheap, let's just chase a ring. Then I'm sure they're, they're down for that, but they're, they're not like this, this sort of organization that, well, or at least, you know, the floor is not the sort of guy who's like, oh, I want to. Scrape together a bunch of like veteran guys that I can count on to produce for a one or two year window. They, they want to have like a sustained thing, which I think is, you know, how you, you would want it. I think it, I think that like. Their approach, the Buffalo Bills approach, is much better than like what we've seen from the Rams. The Rams did get the cash in, they did get a Super Bowl, but, you know, you've seen it's been tough sledding for them, despite

Jason:

Kindry, Kindry year after year in Buffalo.

Prshin:

Yeah, yeah, I mean, they've hit on some guys in the draft, later in the draft, but still, it's had too many, too many older players.

Jason:

Absolutely, absolutely. All right. All right. Well, let's get on to the Superbowl. Starting first, I did not win any of my bets. But I also didn't, I only did like a couple of them. The parlay I would have played. I think I would have got all of them but one. So, heartbreak. Nonetheless. The game did not go the way I thought it would go, but let's, let's start out with the commercials. What I took a lot of stats on the commercials here. Oh, I didn't know they had stats. They got commercial stats. Well, just my stats. Okay. There were, there were, there were a lot of commercials that like with like, like pieces of hair flying, like a mustache flying. Eyebrows flying, like Eugene Levy's eyebrows were flying off and in a, I forget which commercial that one was, but

Prshin:

yeah, there was a mustache, his

Jason:

little Caesar commercial, his eyebrows are flying around in a Pringles commercial. The mustache was,

Prshin:

I was so offended by that Pringles commercial. That was the most unfunny thing that I guess there is trying to be comedy, I think. I, it was, I'm like, bro, what is this? This is a, a, an abomination to the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl has a, a, a a, basically a legacy of having entertaining commercials. And man, I gotta tell you, a lot of these commercials were just not entertaining.

Jason:

Yeah. There were, there was a lot of like messaging going on, a lot of, a lot posturing. TSA style, like what was this? skinhead, like cowboy hat with the skinhead commercial. What was that all about? Like,

Prshin:

yeah, I just, I don't even get what they were.

Jason:

And then, you know, the commercial that really bothers me and pisses me off the most. Is it that

Prshin:

A1?

Jason:

I don't think so, but it's, it's, it's a Jesus, it's like the, it's, it's about God and like, you know, going to, you know, God and, and all this, and I'm like, you just spent 40 million on a commercial when you could have taken that 40 million and fed like the hungry or something, like done something godly with it.

Prshin:

Well, no, they're, they're making a godly investment because you get the people in the pews and then you get, you get their tithing, you can do that

Jason:

for less. You can do that for less. You don't need to do it for 40 million. The Nike commercial was very female forward. So that was a cool commercial in the times that, you know, females are, you know, potentially losing rights. Weird commercial was the Tostitos like E. T. ish commercial. Like, it was funny. Did you, did you, do you know what commercial I'm talking about? The E. T.? The pizza rolls. Yeah, the little, it was like a, it was like an E. T. like, it was like the guy, the, the alien's name was like Kashmir or something like that.

Prshin:

And he

Jason:

lived in this guy's garage and it was like going away. Oh,

Prshin:

I'm afraid I missed that one.

Jason:

There was like a whole funny banter back and the restroom or something.

Prshin:

I didn't see that one, I don't think.

Jason:

Yeah, there was like a big funny banter back and forth. And that part was funny, and then the banter like went too long. And then I was like, oh, now this commercial has just gone too far. So that was an interesting one. But real quick, I'll run down my liked commercials and then we'll, my hated commercials. Funny enough, the, the Bud Light commercial with Post Malone in it was, that was pretty, that was a pretty solid commercial. The Michelob Ultra commercial pickle ball with what's her name from Home Alone, the mom. What's her name? God. She's Moira in Schitt's Creek.

Prshin:

Oh,

Jason:

yeah. Oh,

Prshin:

damn.

Jason:

I don't,

Prshin:

I don't know. I don't know her real life name, but I just know her from Schitt's Creek. It's like,

Jason:

right on the it's like O'Hare, something O'Hare. Oh, I can't remember her name. Anyway. And so the, the, the, they're playing people in Pickleball for Mic Ultra. It's, it's, it's corny and it starts off not good, but then like midway through they, it's just like kind of, it's just kind of funny. So I really enjoyed that one. The little Caesars one with the flying eyebrows, I liked that one. The Reese's one where people are trying to eat lava. Oh yeah,

Prshin:

I did

Jason:

like that

Prshin:

one. That one was hilarious.

Jason:

I did like that

Prshin:

one, yeah.

Jason:

That was funny, and it, oh, the, my favorite one, they elaborated on the Uber Eats, where the NFL is, is all a conspiracy to get you to eat more food. Yeah. And Matthew McConaughey just, like, playing all of these characters. It just had me, it just had me dying. Why do you think they play football on Sunday? No one's eating ice cream Saturdays. Hehehehe,

Prshin:

yeah. Yeah, wait, you know what's funny about this list is that Like in my head the impression I left with after the Super Bowl was like, man All of these commercials were just like, man, whatever. But now that you're going through the list, I do remember liking those ones I

Jason:

like yeah, I agree. I agree. But to be fair I Went and re watched a YouTube of just the commercial every commercial boom boom boom banging them out.

Prshin:

Yeah.

Jason:

Yeah, so and then my most, Hey, Oh, there was a, I don't know if you caught this, but there was a little bit of a banter between Matt Damon and Ben Affleck in, in their commercials. So Ben Affleck was in the Duncan commercial, which was terrible. That was an awful commercial and Matt Damon was in, I forget what the commercial was, but it was the, he was the other David Beckham. He was like, if David Beckham had a twin at a brother, Matt Damon was the other David Beckham. That's what his parents called him. And so he goes to visit them because they, the parents left them in America and he goes to visit them. And it's just, like, Matt Damon just looks ridiculous. And he's just having, like, a cookout. And it's, like, his thing is, like, he just kicks the ball really far. And he, like, kicks this ball into outer space. And it's oh, it's a, it's a, it's a, Oh, it's a Stella Artois commercial. Stella Artois. And it's, like, they're talking about each other, and The real David Beckham's like, David, you drink Stella? And he's like, David, like, I I'm not an idiot. Like, or something like, just stupid like that. I actually

Prshin:

don't think I caught that one either.

Jason:

I, I did, I

Prshin:

do remember seeing a Dunkin Donuts commercial where I was like, that's

Jason:

stupid. Stupid, stupid. The guy was in the Dunkin the coffee, that was so dumb. Yeah. The other dumb one was the hex clad, which was the Gordon Ramsay like pans where they were in outer space. Stupid, what is that? Jesus, that was

Prshin:

How is that entertaining? That's not get off my screen!

Jason:

It makes no sense. Oh, the government had this had this before anyone else and I leaked it. Like, what? The other one, the mayonnaise the Hellman mayonnaise where Billy Crystal is They're in the, like, the restaurant and the girls eat, I don't, I don't know who she is. She's somebody important, but she's eating the sandwich and it's not very good. And then she puts the mayonnaise on it. And, and they, these commercials, they always put like way too much mayonnaise on it. They're like, like no one's putting that much mayonnaise on their sandwiches. But it's met my

Prshin:

girlfriend.

Jason:

But anyway and then she like has like an orgasm after eating the mayonnaise. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That one was really good. I

Prshin:

forgot about that one. I liked that one. That one I was like, okay, this is a good one.

Jason:

The Oikos one where, uh, well, who is it? Somebody is it? Oh, it's Miles Garrett. He can't, he's, he's about to miss it. They changed the gate on his flight. So he has to go, like, he's like, Oh, I'm never gonna make it with this bum knee. And I forget who the girl, Oh, the girl is from Ted Lasso. And she's, like, eating, like, an Oikos yogurt. And she's like, I'll get you there. And then she's like, here, hold my Oikos. And then she picks Miles Garrett up, throws him on her shoulder, and runs to the next fucking, that was just dumb. And then the, the meta glasses was my last, like, least. I didn't care for that one either.

Prshin:

Yeah.

Jason:

I mean, there were like a bunch of others, but you know,

Prshin:

we don't, I mean, here's the one that you did not mention that I did not like. The hate commercials. The one the with Snoop Dogg and Tom Brady talking about, I hate you'cause I don't even know you.

Jason:

Oh yeah.

Prshin:

And it's like, bro, like these, like these two really, it's like. Snoop Dogg, four years ago, eight years ago, whatever it was, talking all kinds of trash on who's gonna sell out and perform for Donald Trump. Flash forward eight years, and he is butthurt because everyone's calling him out. For performing for Donald Trump. Right. And then Tom Brady is like, Hey, y'all need to stop. Like giving us all this guff just because we saw like, just because we support Donald Trump or whatever, like this hate is just not. This stuff is tearing our country apart. Yada, yada. I'm like, guys, you support Donald Trump. Have you ever seen him talk about other people before? That is the problem about, Hey, I

Jason:

can't, I

Prshin:

cannot believe that we're getting fed people who support a very hate. mongering person who's telling you they're not bringing their best and they just are bringing their drugs and they're doing It's an infestation. They're not even humans They're infesting your country right and and we got these guys trying to lecture us about what what hate is Like I'm sorry, but that's a bit rich. That's a bit rich. Yeah,

Jason:

Trump did get booed when he walked in I saw videos of Multiple people calling him a traitor and this and that and booing him. But what makes it interesting is Fox overlaid it with cheers. So if you were not at the game, you did not hear the booze. I saw that people

Prshin:

comparing their phone. What was picking up on their phone versus what was on the actual Fox broadcast? You know who else got booed? Taylor Swift,

Jason:

man.

Prshin:

Why did she get booed? I don't understand what the friction was. I don't

Jason:

know, man. I don't know. Well, if anything, they should be mad at Travis Kelsey for the way he just stood there watching the Holmes run around the field.

Prshin:

I thought I must have missed something, like, is there some reason why she's getting hated on now or something? I, I honestly don't know why

Jason:

they booed her. Well, it's cause it's Eagles fans, so they just, they just probably booed her cause she's with T Kills.

Prshin:

Oh, was it mostly Eagles fans there? Is that what it was?

Jason:

I don't know, man. I don't know how anybody gets tickets to that game. I, I don't know. Like, I truly, like, that's the one thing that I just will never understand is Like, I know two people who went last year and each ticket was 5, 000. And it's like, I understand that there are people who can't afford that, but that's a lot of people in one stadium that can't afford that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so in real quick, while, while we're on the topic of like this kind of stuff, like the eagle, like the city of Philadelphia, wants to shut down schools on Friday to allow kids to go to the parade. And I'm just like, or, or we could have the parade on Saturday. We could, we could just, and no one has to miss work and no one has to, like, how many people are gonna be affected by this parade? Like, what about the people who work at a hospital who can't take the day off to take care of their kids because you just shut down their school because the team won the Super Bowl and you, we, we can't have a parade on a Saturday or a Sunday. Yeah. It's like, we, we put too much emphasis on Just I think sports in general,

Prshin:

I do think, cause they were talking about this on the radio too. I, it, it does appear that there could be some bad weather coming in on the weekend. So they, it does make sense, I guess, if you're like, Oh, well, we could do it on Friday and get ahead of the bad weather.

Jason:

Or you could schedule it for next week, the next weekend. I mean, is this like a, is this a thing where they're like. Hey, you know what? If we wait, if we wait too long, Here's what I was thinking. Everyone's not going to be feeling the parade.

Prshin:

Right. So, I don't think like anyone from Philadelphia like actually said, Oh, it's because of the weather or whatever. I think other people are like, hey, it looks like

Jason:

That person on Threats told me. He called me a dope. Well, they were talking about it. He said, we got wet weather coming in, you dope.

Prshin:

I love that. Keep keep it coming. This is this engagement guys. If we are dopes, let us know in the comments the but here's what I think is more likely though. I think that they have become like what's the road? I think the city has come to embrace. It's the image that Philadelphia has got with the sports shit, right? So it's like, oh, we, we celebrate slash riot, whatever we go, we go extra hard or whatever. And so they're like. Let's make a full on vacation for our city and, and draw even more notice to the fact that we are the champs we won and we're going to invite people to come out, have a great time. And, and then we could plan on having a ton of

Jason:

police there at the, you know what, you know what, you're right. That does make sense. You know what? Cancel the schools because I mean, those cats constantly pulling up light posts and I mean, like. Like what? Look, all right, man, I get celebrating. I get it. I get it. Pull up the light posts if that's what you want to do. I think

Prshin:

they're trying to embrace it as like a branding, marketing thing. Why are we

Jason:

breaking windows of shops? Like, that's not the city and the taxpayers repaying that. Like that's, they're gonna have to like pull out an insurance claim and like that's gonna hurt them. Like, you're supposed to be celebrating. So I mean Greece to climb the Greece light poles if you want to tear this. I know

Prshin:

it sounds a little ridiculous What when I say it out loud like that, but I'm telling you I know a couple people that live in Philadelphia and I'm telling you they really do take pride in how Unhinged their celebrations are I

Jason:

get

Prshin:

it?

Jason:

I get

Prshin:

it good

Jason:

for them. It's good for like they

Prshin:

Cannot wait for a team to Do really well or to super disappoint so that they'll have some excuse to do hood rat shit with their friends You know,

Jason:

yeah. Yeah, they love to do that hood rat shit with their friends All right. Well speaking of that they did the damn thing. They absolutely, whoop that ass I I'm not gonna lie to you. I went over to a friend's house for the game I watched the first half and the halftime show, and we'll talk about that later and we left after the halftime show and I turned the game on about midway through the third and I said, this is over and I turned it right back off. I did not, I, I did, I turned it back on with like two minutes left just to kind of see the ending and it was a fucking, it was a blowout. It was a blowout. The Eagles came to play. I mean, they came to play in every which way of the form, like as much as we were talking about how Andy Reed is the coach and how he's out coaching people the week before he got out coached. I mean, they got out coach, they got flat out outworked. They had nothing for that defense. Mahomes in the offensive line got absolutely destroyed. DeAndre Hopkins was scared to catch the ball. Travis Kelsey

Prshin:

too, apparently.

Jason:

Travis Kelsey had no, had no stats in

Prshin:

the first

Jason:

half.

Prshin:

Well, I mean, they, they tabulate drops. So, I mean, he had those stats, I guess. Yeah. He had negative stats.

Jason:

He had a negative stat like, yeah, I mean, this game was over from

Prshin:

the word go. It was surprising. It honestly did surprise me how dominant they were. I mean, this was a good old fashioned Molly whopping. I agree with your sentiment that it seems like they really weren't prepared for what the Eagles were, had coming on defense. They, they, you know, Andy Reid, who prides himself on and has a really good track record of kind of catching defenses off guard with Something that you're not going to expect that's going to basically be a really good counter to whatever defense you're trying to play. It is just like, it was completely absent or at least. We couldn't see it come to its fruition. I think the one thing that they did do well on is they did actually bottle up Saquon better than any other team that I think I've seen this year. But the problem is that that's the only thing that they like actually. Got right that they actually were able to stop and I mean The way that some of these guys look so butt naked in the secondary It kind of makes me believe like you were so afraid of Saquon that you basically like Let like you basically said, okay fine. You can throw it on us if you want And I mean, it's still like a team with Devante Smith AJ Brown Dallas got it. It's not like it's not like oh The, the genius game plan is make them use these guys. Like, it's like, okay, they can do that, obviously. So it's like, I, I don't know, I, It was hard to tell what the game plan was because, honestly, they, they were just getting beat in the trenches so badly. I mean, they, they, especially when it comes to the Chiefs on offense, man, I, it's hard to even know what the play was intended to do because as soon as you hit, as soon as you snap the ball, Motherfucker's running for his life and it's like, alright, every single play is basically like a scramble drill. And it's, so it's like I mean, they, they just did really well. I mean, you, you got to give your hats off. It was the best defense in the league this year. And you know, so basically this is plus one for all of us. Defense wins championship truthers.

Jason:

Yeah. Well, yeah. I

Prshin:

mean, and

Jason:

there.

Prshin:

And I mean that, that defensive line in particular, Oh yeah. I mean, Cooper, Eugene Quinion, Mitchell, these guys stepped up in the secondary, but even they were, were basically showed up by that defensive line. I mean, Jalen Carter and sweat and I mean, that entire defensive front was just, was just swimming through the offensive line. It didn't matter. So

Jason:

let me ask you this with. Cause I mean, there's not, there's really, I mean, you know, the chiefs are going to take this tape and they're just going to throw this in the trash because there's nothing to take from this footage. You know, this was just an all out piss poor performance by them. So with that being said, when you look at these two teams, as far as next season, you know, Do both of them have like like do you have any doubt like if some people are saying, you know Oh, maybe the chiefs dynasty is gonna it's gonna be over and you know, blah blah blah. No, I don't I don't The to me they're they're young their most

Prshin:

important pieces. They've locked in and so it's like Are they going to have as good of a record as they did this past season? Probably not, right? But the thing is just that they still have Andy Reid locked in. They've got Mahomes locked in. They've got Chris Jones locked in. I mean, this It's like they didn't lose their, any of their coordinators. They didn't lose Andy Reed. I mean, they're going to be a well coached team. This was a bad showing from the team, both as like the players and also like the coaching. But the thing is just that the track record is like, you can't really argue with it. And You know, it, it would not surprise me if some of the, the most important players on this team really did just kind of like assume that it was theirs to lose and that if they just came out and played, all right, everything would be fine. And, you know, they just, they just were not locked in and ready to play the A plus sort of game that you, you are usually going to Xavier worthy was. Well, he made a couple plays toward the end of the game, but the thing is just that none of them seem to be stepping up and making plays like the first three quarters though, you know what I mean?

Jason:

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Well what about the Eagles, so you got them coming right back, just team to beat in the NFC, I mean, I don't see why not. Oh,

Prshin:

hold that thought, I gotta go real

Jason:

quick.

Prshin:

And I'm back. Yeah, as far as the Eagles, I think that they're going to be good to go for next year. They lose Callum Moore, but I don't think that was really the strength of the team. I mean, they were all right on offense, but it was mostly just the offensive line and Saquon Barkley teamed up together was just unstoppable. And so you don't need necessarily a mastermind sort of O. C. to, to. Make that work next year because those pieces are coming back. And so I think that they're gonna be fine They just have a ton of talent on that team and I don't see why they should not be contenders again next year

Jason:

Right, right, right, right.

Prshin:

Is that kind of how you see the Eagles as well?

Jason:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man I mean they if this I mean they've got some some pieces they've got to work like I think they've got brawn They got to figure out how to bring him back. Oh, that's right or You know, so they've got a, they're off season, they've got to work through, but I mean, they're keeping Jalen Hurds, Adam Saquon, like, you know, the wide receivers. So

Prshin:

yeah,

Jason:

with those guys, I mean, they can surely score. I mean, they showed that the last two games with 55 and 40, which, you know, makes you wonder, you know, why did the Rams play them so well? You know, even the Packers kept them to 22 points, you know, I mean, that's. That's good news for a team like the Packers, because it's like, oh, hey, you know, the youngest team in the league kept you to 22, better than the Chiefs. You know, I mean, the Chiefs did score 22, but that was only because of Taylor Swift.

Prshin:

Well, honestly, I think that they got,

Jason:

man, you're just going to gloss over that joke like that. Wait, I didn't get it. It was a Taylor Swift joke. She has a song called 22.

Prshin:

Oh, I didn't know that. I don't know Taylor Swift songs. But yeah, yeah, so I think that Truly the reason why they they put up some points in the fourth quarter was because they It, the game was so, oh yeah. This game well at hand. Yeah. It was so

Jason:

at hand. The chiefs. The chiefs. Yeah. No, this game was over. So

Prshin:

it, it, it was not even as close as that. I mean, not that the, so not that the n score was necessarily close, but it, it wasn't even as close as that, you know?

Jason:

No, no. It was a blowout. It was, it was an absolute net. It couldn the couldn't get

Prshin:

anything done in any phase of the game.

Jason:

So let's talk about this halftime show. First of all, what did you like it?

Prshin:

It was alright. There was basically moments in it that I found very entertaining that I was like, oh, that's cool. I like that. On the whole, not so much. I mean, I think I was looking for maybe a little bit more like pizzazz or something crazy to happen or whatever. Cause he, I feel like at the super bowl, a lot of times there's been performances where it's like Katy Perry's flying around and something, or there's like explosions going off and there's just kind of like more to look at than just, you know,

Jason:

and that is. That is where the old man in us comes in.

Prshin:

Yeah, I mean, I do think it was really cool. My favorite part for sure was Serena Williams doing the crip walk during the song that is about her ex boyfriend.

Jason:

Right. So basically just

Prshin:

rubbing it in by bringing the ex on stage to crip walk while, you know.

Jason:

Well, there was like, there was a lot of subliminal message messaging during his. So, and that's why I say Boomer because I mean, he chose a lot of certain lyrics, like, you know I think there was one early on where you chose the wrong guy. And then the way Samuel L. Jackson, you know, said to ghetto, you know, that whole line. I

Prshin:

love the whole thing, the whole sort of theme of like, what's my role as black man in America and. hat, what do I think my role should be versus what's the expectation that my role should be or something, you know, and I think that that was clearly what he was trying to get people to think about. And I think, I think it worked or, or at least it worked

Jason:

for me. I don't, I mean, I just, I just thought it was cause at first I was like, Hey, it really wasn't like this wow factor. And then. You know, you go read the discourse online and like, oh, okay, I get it now. Cause I don't, I don't really listen to all of Kendrick Lamar songs. So,

Prshin:

yeah,

Jason:

you know, I only knew like three songs that he's, you know, he's saying. And so, I mean, it was. It was a good halftime before I thought I thought he did well He was he was pretty solid like he didn't make any mistakes and you know He was smooth and to do all because he did a lot of running man. Yeah That stage was huge. Yeah, but then that was the other thing. Did you notice the squid games? Do you, cause you, do you watch squid game? So the, the PlayStation logos that he had, the triangle, the X and the circle that I like, somebody was saying that those are actually squid games logos because the show squid games is, is a very political like show about like, basically, you know, putting people in a, on like a position that they, The choice they're going to make is going to be the one for, for money and, and gain. And, but it's, it's like a person that's so down on their, like, so it's just, it's just kind of all ties into like, you know, how poor people and this and that, and that, you know, the country and how they make poor people fight poor people and, you know, the rich are making each other richer and blah, blah, blah, that kind of, cause that's what squid games is all. It's like basically all these people that owe something or. They, they have no way of possibly paying back. And, and so now they're fighting each other for, for money.

Prshin:

Sad.

Jason:

Yeah, yeah. It's pretty sad. So it was Yeah, I mean, Any other thoughts on the halftime, the Super Bowl in general?

Prshin:

Nah. I guess not. I'll just say that I was pleasantly surprised To see that I actually wasn't angry about the refs at the end of the game I I was afraid that I was they started all I was afraid because I mean frankly more times than not when I sit down to watch a full game of NFL I end up being frustrated at the refs as part of my experience and so I was like man I just hope the Super Bowl is not marred by these big blowing calls or whatever. I,

Jason:

man, I was really hoping for, for controversy. I wanted a bunch of refs chaos.

Prshin:

Well, I, in a way, I think that this, this does almost fuel controversy. Cause it's almost like, okay, one team dominated and the other team really didn't have a chance. And so it's like, Hmm, you see

Jason:

the NFL swing it the other way. It's like too far.

Prshin:

No, no, no. I think what people are thinking now is they're like, okay, you see how if it's not a close game, we don't get all of these bullshit calls toward the end of the game. We just get a well called game. And then if it was close and they wanted to put their finger on the, the, you know, the scale there, then that,

Jason:

That is, that's not how I'm viewing that. I'm viewing it more as like the conspiracy then flips the other way. Oh, so So they got tired of us thinking the refs helped the Chiefs and the Chiefs always win. So now they made the Chiefs lose, but in convincing fashion. Oh, yeah. So no one can

Prshin:

dispute the fact that they were trying to get the Chiefs to win.

Jason:

And they had a couple of controversial calls at the beginning of the game, and then they stopped. You know, so. At the

Prshin:

very beginning, I was a little bit butt hurt, and I was expecting the worst. But then, in my opinion, they cleaned it up, so. Yeah,

Jason:

I don't recall ever really seeing flags.

Prshin:

Yeah,

Jason:

yeah, so it also believe it or not most most watched Super Bowl.

Prshin:

Oh

Jason:

27 somebody 127 point seven

Prshin:

was that you or was that Smith that I was trying to get to die.

Jason:

Definitely. There's no way I bet it I took money. I was trying to get one of y'all to

Prshin:

bet me

Jason:

There's no way I think half I mean cuz half of me was was more than likely like just Being a pain in the butt, but the other half of me like wanted it. Hey,

Prshin:

friend of the Pondsmith, you owe me

Jason:

some dollars. You owe me some dollars. All right, so before we wrap up, I got one, I got two questions for you. Already. One, Do you think bench players, like, that wouldn't normally see the field, that play in the Super Bowl deserve any credit, i. e. I'm looking at you, Kenny Pickett.

Prshin:

No. Yeee.

Jason:

I say no. Ye like, he like, like he's gonna get a ring, but he didn't do a damn thing. Like he didn't do not one thing. Like do you think they're even proud about that ring?

Prshin:

I, I definitely think that everyone sort of knows that when you look at certain teams and you're like. Oh, you were on that team? Then it's like, oh, you're not the reason why they won, right? You were around, apparently, right?

Jason:

Well, you know, Kenny Pickett has more rings than you know.

Prshin:

But the thing is, like, a lot of times, and I'm not sure if people just say this shit or if they really mean it, because I've never been on an NFL team before, but a lot of times Wait, hold

Jason:

on. You've never been on the NFL team before?

Prshin:

Not yet. Okay. The timeline has

Jason:

our

Prshin:

timeline hasn't exploded yet. All right.

Jason:

On earth 99. Yeah. Right. When you get on earth, I mean,

Prshin:

Hey, listen, a lot of advances in AI, you don't know what kind of augment someone get next year, you know, you don't know, right,

Jason:

right. Ready player one style.

Prshin:

But one thing that a lot of people do say, they, they seem to believe is that. Like everybody's part of helping each other push harder and everybody's part of the culture of, of keeping it physical, keeping it competitive and aggressive and the, and keeping it positive that, yeah, we are. The best team in the league, we do I'm sure, I'm sure Jalen

Jason:

Hurts was, was really pushed by Kenny.

Prshin:

So, I, like, I think that you kinda just have to give everyone, like, a ring, and you kinda have to like

Jason:

No, no, that's fine, you can get the ring and get your participation trophy, that's fine. That's fine. Because you That's fine, I was just curious if you, if you gave, how you felt about giving them Oh, I, like no one, like no one's going to remember that Kenny Pickett won a Super Bowl.

Prshin:

See, my thing is that I usually have a better idea of like who has been actually used throughout the season and who really was part of it and who hasn't. So for me, I'm just like, yeah, Kenny Pickett, he didn't, he didn't do enough.

Jason:

Like he

Prshin:

just

Jason:

didn't do well. He did play in the game.

Prshin:

Yeah, he he didn't do it. He did not matter. He just did not matter for their season. He did not matter for the game You know what? I mean? Like sometimes there are people who are bench players, but they actually like contributed a lot throughout the season Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm not talking about this, right? Right? Yeah. No for me. We'll talk about for me No, I don't give them credit these bench players. I don't give them credit. Yeah.

Jason:

All right, then part two I heard this question on the radio, so now I'm curious. Which team will have the most interesting offseason? Like as far as like team building or non team building or moves and this and that and just drama.

Prshin:

I think it's going to be someone we don't expect. expect. I think what's end of what's going to be interesting is like every off season. There's, there's a team that makes a move or several that we just, we're not expecting that to happen, but based on what we do know right now and things that are expected to happen, I think that the Vikings have a really interesting decision on. Did Sam Donald do enough to convince the coaching staff there or more importantly, you know, the front office there that they should actually pay up because you know that there's going to be some other teams that are going to be willing to offer him like a three year, four year deal or something who are going to be basically more desperate than the Vikings are because the desperate, the Vikings just spent a top 10 pick on a quarterback last year. So it, it'll be interesting to see. I think it's interesting particularly because there seems to be a divide amongst Actual Vikings fans where some of them are like fuck him He shit the bed when at the end of the season when it counts the most like fucking let him go Don't pay him. Let him go.

Jason:

And then there's other people who

Prshin:

just like nah No, we had a good season and he was he was killing it for most of the season, which is true I mean, I'm not gonna take anything away from him But I

Jason:

gets to the playoffs gets to the playoffs and they want to fucking get rid of him But I think if it could you imagine so could you imagine the Raven saying the same thing about Lamar? Oh, Lamar. Lamar just shits the bed when we needed him the most. I mean, God, let's get rid of this guy. Let's get rid of him. We need another one. Well, I'm talking

Prshin:

about fans though. Like, I'm sure there were some fans who were saying crazy shit like that. You know what I mean? But for me, I'm just like, I don't think they should keep both. I think if they, if they do decide that they want to pay Donald, which is not crazy. Okay. If they do decide they want to go that route, then I do think that they should trade and recoup value for JJ McCarthy. Cause teams will be willing to trade for JJ McCarthy. Absolutely. Yeah. They'll be willing to trade like a later round. First, I bet you maybe two seconds, a second and a third, something like that might make it worth it to get something back because you know, you don't, you don't just want to spend a first round pick and then already know that you're sinking four years of, of, of bench play in it. And if you're signing someone. To money like Darnold then that means that you are now hoping that JJ McCarthy rides the bench and you don't get value for him Well, I don't like those situations. I think that you should try to maximize your cap space maximize your pick value maximize those things And so that's my personal opinion. I think that situation is probably going to be the most

Jason:

interesting to the Vikings. I am they on the radio they they said the Bengals is one of the teams because Yeah, what's gonna happen with Tee Higgins? What's gonna happen with Jamar Chase? Yeah, you know Joe Burrows become pretty vocal. He's really Trying

Prshin:

to put the pressure on them to bring them both back. Yeah They made it sound like they were definitely not going to do that And historically they have not wanted to play players. Everyone understands that. So it'll be interesting to see who wins out there because I do think Joe burrow does have some sway with them. I don't think that they're just going to dismiss what he wants. I think. They want to try to appease him, but, yeah, I, I think probably the most likely thing is that they sign Chase, but don't sign Higgins. But, I don't know, it's, it's, it's all speculation based on their history at this point, you know?

Jason:

I hope Green Bay signs Tee Higgins.

Prshin:

No, the Broncos.

Jason:

Y'all don't need him as much as we need him, okay? Well, no, we'll sign Tee Higgins and then we'll give you Romeo Dobbs.

Prshin:

I mean, I might be okay with that. I think Dobbs is legitimately an upgrade over every skill position player, besides Courtland Sutton.

Jason:

There you go. So

Prshin:

we could use Dobbs, honestly.

Jason:

Well, there you have it. That's all of, that's the year. That's it. That's, that was the Superbowl. So now we got the off season. We'll S we'll start that whole shebang, you know, going through teams. Go and got the draft coming up. We'll talk about that and You know see what we can cook up otherwise Until next time you can catch us at pineponypodcast22 at gmail. com Or on threads and Instagram at pineponypodcast Adios adios

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