2025 Draft MEGA Recap

Welcome back to the Pine Pony Podcast! In this episode, we break down the biggest surprises, steals, and sleeper picks from the 2025 NFL Draft. From the Packers' shocker with Matthew Golden to the Browns' perplexing QB choices, we've got all the hot takes and key insights. We also dive into the Panthers' impressive draft haul, the Eagles trading up for Jihad Campbell, and much more. Tune in for our thoughts on how teams bolstered their rosters and what to look forward to in training camp. Don't miss it!
 

Transcript

Jason: 0:01

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the PO Pony Podcast. It's me, og. That's right. I'm back from Wisconsin. Nailed it. I'm here with my, I'm here with my big, with my big time pony, the fantasy uncle. What's happening?

pershin: 0:17

Howdy. Howdy, man. I man, I have got to know what, what was it like to actually be there? Did you learn anything about the draft being there in person that you never realized as a, a viewer at home?

Jason: 0:42

So I'll just start off with once in a lifetime experience, if you have the opportunity to go to the draft of your team. You should absolutely do it. Yeah, absolutely. Like, and what added bonus to it was that I'd never been to Lambo before. So it was just like, it almost was too much.

pershin: 1:06

I didn't realize you'd never been. That's, that's exciting.

Jason: 1:10

It almost was too much. Like, it was like, I was just like, you know, we're walking like we got prime parking spot. So we started off at like 7:00 AM in the airports drinking.

pershin: 1:24

As one does.

Jason: 1:26

As one does. And then, you know, it's like. Four by the time we get to the draft, four in the afternoon and we drank on the way to the draft from Milwaukee. So we flew into Milwaukee and then drove to Green Bay.

pershin: 1:40

So by the time you make it to Green Bay, you, you're already starting your hangover.

Jason: 1:46

I was feeling good. I mean this say, and we parked like really close. There was like no traffic, which was wild. Zero traffic.

pershin: 1:56

Oh God. I would've thought there was traffic just because it's the draft,

Jason: 2:00

right? 205,000 people. And the guy that we were with was like, this was like a normal game day traffic. Like there, like this was great. Well, what's super cool is like the houses that people live in are directly across the street from the stadium. It's like you are, you drive into like a suburban area with like a little bit of like a downtown hangout spots. And then there's just this giant stadium in the middle of nowhere.

pershin: 2:32

Well, I guess and, but you, the middle of nowhere certainly will help with traffic issues though, so I mean Right.

Jason: 2:38

That's probably, it was so cool though, because it was like, they had, like, the practice facility was right there on the street, so you could just, you could literally just stand on the sidewalk and watch it and practice if you wanted to.

pershin: 2:49

Are there actually players doing training in there this time of year, or is it just empty and closed or whatever?

Jason: 2:54

It was empty. I mean, I didn't walk into the building or anything like that. But anyway, we walk up to the draft. I mean, first of all, they, we, they wanted us to register for stuff like to, to get tickets to go to the draft. But we entered, and I'm telling you, dude, no one scanned anything. I don't even think we got security checked.

pershin: 3:17

Oh wow.

Jason: 3:18

It was just willy-nilly. Wow. They, they

pershin: 3:21

begging for some incel white boy to come in.

Jason: 3:25

But it was just, dude, there was, so, like I was telling you dude, I only saw like half of like the draft area because I didn't see any food. Like they were off in some other area. I didn't go to the, to the area where they showed people, like doing the tube sledding on tv. I didn't, I didn't even see that because we immediately got to the beer line and got beers and then you could walk into the stadium. So we walked into the stadium, looked at the red carpet experience, watched a couple players come down that, which was really cool. And I mean, dude, the stadium is, it's big, but it feels tiny. Like, it just feel like when you're inside of it, it just, it feels claustrophobic. Like it's just, it's wild man. It's like,'cause you know, it seats like 80,000 or whatever, but like the lower levels. Which is where we were, like five rows from the grass. It, it is just steep and it's all bench seeding. Like it's all, it's all, you know, bleachers until you get to like all the new stuff. And that's like more like of your traditional, like regular seats. Pretty

pershin: 4:45

cool. Pretty cool. Did you yeah. And then, so did you just stick to your group or did you actually meet some of these, some of the strangers and stuff? Because like, I would think part of the, part of the perks that I would like personally, like if it, if let's say I went to Denver and the draft was actually happening in Denver. Like, I would think it would be pretty cool to meet a bunch of people like me who are Broncos fans that actually came from around the

Jason: 5:08

country or whatever. I mean, when you're in Green Bay and it's just all Green Bay fans, I mean, you kind of just, you just all get along, you know? And. It, it was just, we were, like I said, man, we were always on the move. Like the longest time we stood around was when we saw, we noticed like right where we were standing, James Franklin and Abdul Carter were being golf carded in, and they got out like two feet from us and that was the media entrance to go to like where if you were doing like college game day or Adam Chester or Rich Eisen Show or Pat McAfee or basically whatever, that's the

pershin: 5:49

media circuit right there,

Jason: 5:50

right? And so we were like, oh, well let's just hang out here for a minute. And then that's when the ESPN guy came up to us where we were standing and he was just like, Hey, you guys fans of Pat McAfee? And we were like, yeah, yeah, we love Pat McAfee. And he was like, well, you may or may not be in a good spot. And so we just hung out there and sure as shit like 10 minutes later. A Pat McAfee, all the other dudes come in high fing us, Mike McCarthy. We didn't even realize Mike McCarthy was walking next to Pat McAfee until we watched the video that we recorded back. Yeah, yeah. I could, he just kind of, it in could,

pershin: 6:31

I could totally see Pat McAfee being like a pretty like big personality IRL whereas Mike McCarthy, he had anything will be just like in, in more of a normal plain clothes and just kind of being silent, you know? See,

Jason: 6:46

pat McAfee had like a, you know, like the long feather coat down to his knees, you know, and then Mike McCarthy's just wearing like, you know, a suit.

pershin: 6:56

The, yeah, just like a casual blazer or something.

Jason: 6:59

But yeah. And then we saw Rich Eyes and he walked by us. And then we went, we went to go try to see if we could find some of the shows. We couldn't really, we saw Adam, she doing like his little, like, he was in like the small, like a one person tent with like a TV. And he was doing like, you know, his call in from the draft to ESPN, you know. And then, but what was crazy is because we went to go to the bathroom and we couldn't get back down where the stage was because they were at capacity. So we ended up watching the draft from Lambo Field, which is still pretty freaking dope as it is. But the best part, and this will be the, the kind of, it was obviously when we picked Matthew Golden first and the crowd went absolutely nuts. And you saw it on tv, just go pack and go chance in perfect unison with 125,000 people down there. And then when the bears. Pick the amount of boo and bears still suck. Chance were just amazing. You could just say, bears still suck and just all of a sudden a hundred people suck chance

pershin: 8:18

just revel in the hatred. Right? Yeah,

Jason: 8:20

it's great. And then clay Matthews, I don't know if you saw his little joke. He said I did not. I'm gonna go off. He said, I'm gonna go off script. And he said, Trump just sent me an executive order. And then he opens up this envelope and he goes, the bears still suck there. And it was awesome. It was awesome. And then and then the last funniest thing ever was when you were in the bathroom. The amount of dudes just heckling each other. For Peeing way too long was so funny. Like Bears fans, oh man, the Bears fan up there must be playing with themselves. Geez. Like just the trash talk and like, oh, we don't hold doors open for Bears fans. We don't like close the door. Like real, like you don't know a real rivalry until you go like to one of those rivalries. Like I love Clemson, south Carolina's rivalry, but they don't have anything on that. Yeah, it was great. It was great. It was an awesome experience. And then, you know, the round out, the rest of the trip, we didn't go back the second day because it was 40 degrees and raining and it, and it was windy, did not look like fun. So instead we went to the Brewer, Milwaukee Brewers baseball stadium and they have a. A golf simulator overlooking left field, and you can just drink. It's like a, it's like a bar. And so we just sat at the bar there, had a beer and watched, you know, people do work on the left, on the field. And then it was the Bucks game that night. So we, we stayed at the old PVR brewery. They converted that into like a hotel, wedding venue and stuff. So we stayed there and you know, kind of went around town and hit up some breweries and stuff. Wow. Pretty cool place, man. You guys stayed

pershin: 10:23

drunk?

Jason: 10:25

Yes. Yeah.

pershin: 10:27

I'm glad though.

Jason: 10:30

Every Friday in Wisconsin, the whole state does fish fries, the whole state. You can pretty much go to any, yeah, you can pretty much go to any bar or restaurant and and get fried fish.

pershin: 10:42

Wow. I love the solidarity. They, they're all participating.

Jason: 10:46

It was great. It was great. You know, I saw a Putin is a dick t-shirt. You know, what, what's the, what's not the hate about, what's not the love about that? But anyway, nonetheless, I could talk about that draft all day long. It was quite the experience. So let's get into some of the news real quick before we talk about draft. Texas, Florida and Georgia were the highest draft states. No surprise there. It was like 45 in Texas and then twenties in the other two.

pershin: 11:21

Well, is no California this town?

Jason: 11:23

It had like 15. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, these were just like, you know, ex like way above the rest. And then I don't know if you saw this, but the UFL suspends Samson, KU PCA's brother.

pershin: 11:39

Oh, I heard that. He literally hit someone heckling it. Yeah. Or something like that. Yeah. Someone was giving him a hard top and he actually hit him that yeah.

Jason: 11:49

Yeah. That's, that's,

pershin: 11:50

that's crazy. That probably justifies the suspension.

Jason: 11:54

But only one game. He only got, he only caught one game for that.

pershin: 11:56

Oh. Worth it.

Jason: 11:57

It seems like it should be more, it seems like be, yeah. I feel like

pershin: 12:00

now he's gonna hit more people. He's like, man. Right. It's like one game is worth me busting your ass for talking shit.

Jason: 12:08

He's like, I'm gonna hit two next game. Yeah. And then, the commanders are getting a new stadium back at the original site. It's gonna have a glass roof. A glass roof. It'll nice. Yeah. A glass roof. And the coolest thing is the one of the ends will open up to face, like the monuments. I mean, that's pretty cool. I'm down with that also. The other coolest thing is, is I believe the commanders are footing the bill for like 90% of it.

pershin: 12:44

Oh, wow. Yeah. See I was thinking like, oh, what they did was they like, Hey, we got a good young quarterback and a new coaching staff, and now we're gonna do the referendum. Like, now people are gonna be in, they're like, I'll pay taxes to support them. They're winning.

Jason: 13:02

No, they're doing, they're doing the right thing and they're footing the majority of the bill and then some. That's great. Glad to hear it. Glad to hear it. And then let's talk about, let's, let's go ahead and get into the draft.'cause the next piece of news I have is directly related. So let's talk about, just real quick, the biggest story of the draft. Sha Sanders, the Toronto Argonauts have added Shadu to their negotiation list, meaning that if he does not make the Browns and would like to play Canadian football, they have first dibs. They're the first ones that allowed to talk to. Oh, interesting. So you basically, that was,

pershin: 13:44

you basically kind of like tag player the first, the first come first serve on players that may be interested.

Jason: 13:53

Right? Right, exactly. Interesting. I

pershin: 13:56

didn't even realize it worked out. That's cool though. Why not? Right? Why not? He, he might, he very well may not work out. He he might be too much of a, of a headache for the coaching staff and, there's there's been some reporting since the draft that seems to suggest that teams were actually less worried about Shado himself and just did not wanna have to deal with Prime, which I think is actually not unreasonable because he, he keeps suggesting that he should be an NFL head coach, and so I, you know, he wants to coach his son, you know? Right. And I, I feel like if, if you're a head coach and you draft Sha door and it, it's not going well for whatever reason, then now you've got all the media and maybe even Sheor himself trying to put pressure to, well,

Jason: 14:57

his days are numbered anyway, so.

pershin: 15:00

Oh man, they're definitely numbered. If you have a say in it, you hate some stefanski.

Jason: 15:06

I hate that guy. This guy Joe, that we were partying with at the draft, he, he, I, he found out that I didn't like Stefanski and he's just like, man, he's a good coach. So I'm like, no, he is not. No, he, they had a better team on the field with Baker and they still did not, they went to the playoffs one time. One time. He's not a good coach. I'll die on that. He, alright, well let's get into it. Let's start with the A FC East and let's start with the jets. Who picked number seven? First round are Bob Bu and then Mason Taylor, second round Azi Thomas. Third round AR Ian Smith, fourth round, Malachi Moore. Fourth round Francisco, fifth round in. Tyler Baron also in the fifth round.

pershin: 16:02

Yeah, the, I thought that they had a pretty decent draft all around. The, the pick that stood out to me as a pretty bad pick was the Arian Smith. He if they, if they liked him that much, they probably could have just waited a round or two and still gotten him. He, he pretty much was just a reach. But I think, you know, as a, a fantasy lover here, I do think that this is a pretty interesting landing spot for Mason Taylor for most, most sort of scouts and analysts and stuff. He was the third or the fourth tight end in the ranking behind Warren and Loveland. And, and sure enough, he ends up going as the third tight end off the board, and he goes to a team that doesn't have anything. I mean, their, their, their tight end would be, if game started before the draft would be Jeremy Ruckert, who is primarily just a blocking guy. So I think Mason Taylor, highly athletic tight end had a, a very productive final season in college. I think that he's an interesting name to sort of monitor once the season starts, you know, if, if he starts popping off and he has that 100% or something close to it, snap share worth monitoring, you know?

Jason: 17:26

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I also like what they did'cause, you know, they got, so they pick up fields, right?

pershin: 17:32

Yeah, yeah. They got,

Jason: 17:34

they got fields. Yeah. So they picked up fields and I like that they immediately, you know, went out and addressed the offensive line issue by picking up Armad bu in the first round. I mean, yeah, yeah. Big, yeah. Drafting a need and, but also, you know, pretty good, pretty good need Phil. Yeah.

pershin: 17:49

Big strong kid too. I mean, if he, if he pans out skill wise he's going to be maing people, you know?

Jason: 17:58

Absolutely. Absolutely. Alright, so pretty good draft of the Jets. We'll see what happens. Oh, see how it all plays out on the field. Right. Moving on to. The New England Patriots. Moving on to the New England Patriots. Round one. Will Campbell number four pick Trayvon Henderson in round two. Kyle Williams in round three. Jared Wilson in round three. Craig Woodson, round four. Joshua Farmer, round four. Braden Swenson, round five, Andreas Bore round six. Marcus Bryant seven, Julian Ashby and Kobe Minor. Did you see the, the post that they posted like an a minor joke and they took it down immediately? I Oh, wow. Yeah, I don't, oh, but anyway, I mean, look, the Patriots had a fuck ton of pigs and this was, I mean, they, they,

pershin: 19:00

this was a great draft

Jason: 19:01

for them.

pershin: 19:01

I felt like they did well, especially when it comes to like bolstering that offense. Will Campbell was just sitting there for them. Same thing happened with Trayvon Henderson. I actually thought the Broncos might take Trayvon in the first round. They were able to get him in the second round, and then a guy and Kyle Williams who had a lot of buzz leading up to the draft. A lot of people thought he was gonna go second round. They ended up getting him I think the second pick of their third round. So it's I mean they really helped Drake may a lot by getting pass, catching weapons and what appears to be a really good offensive line prospect. And so I just think that, that they, they handled this in a really good way because the most important thing for that coaching staff and that GM is making sure that they get Drake made, that they get. You know, his potential is actually realized. I think that they, everyone understands that that's, that should be priority one. I think that they have made it priority one and so, you know, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out. I personally have faith in Vrabel. I know there's a lot of mixed opinions on him, but I, I would not be shocked to see a huge improvement this coming season.

Jason: 20:21

Yeah, I mean, I, I think they drafted according to who the coach is for sure. Okay. Going to Miami with their first pick in the 13th pick in the first round, they took Kenneth, the grant and second round Jonah Sal, Sal, fifth round, and then they waited till the fifth round to pick again. Jordan Phillips, Jason Marshall, Jr. Dante Trader Junior, sixth round, Ollie Gordon, the second. Seventh round Quinn ERs and Zeke Biggers. Listen, man, that was a, like, that could be one of the best picks for a quarterback, in my opinion, is the ERs to just take Yeah, man. Because he's gonna get a shot. Because two is definitely gonna get hurt at some point. And I mean, I, you know, he's in a good situation with wide receivers and running backs and, you know, whatnot. Yeah. Defense. A little bit of defense there. So it's like, you know, he, he is, he wouldn't need to be expected to win the game and I think, you know, he could potentially be potentially taken over that spot.

pershin: 21:32

Yeah. I, I think that this is yeah, yeah. Basically, I just, I agree with you. The, the only other quarterback in his way is Zach Wilson, who has not worked out anywhere. He's been, so it's like, okay, Quinn er is not a first round, like. Blue chip sort of talent right now. But that doesn't mean that he can't develop into something he has shown moments. You know, he hasn't been consistent, but he's shown some things that lead you to believe he's got what it takes to you know, become something. And like you said, he's just, they, they got a starting quarterback that is basically a ticking time bomb. Like you, you know, every season he's likely to miss several games because he, he lands the wrong angle and, you know, he's got a, a, a big concussion problem. I say I, I felt like for the most part, these, these picks were pretty boring, to be honest with you. They all seem to be relatively Yeah, chalk. Like they, it's not like they reached too hard on any of'em, or it's not like they got especially great value. Although I think you could say for a lot of people, they did expect yours to go a little bit sooner than this. So maybe that is actually the value that they got, but. Yep. You know, the, the only other thing I would mention is that I think Ollie Gordon is still someone with massive upside. He had a, a huge, huge 2023 and then he disappointed in 2024, but he wasn't the only part. That entire offense just completely imploded last season. I think that that was his biggest problem was they just could not move the ball and the defense is all focused on him and, hi, his season was so good in 2023 that I, I think that that player's probably still in there somewhere. I think that there's, it would not shock me if he ends up beating out Jalen Wright and the other free agent they picked up to, to be the next man up behind Jevon a chan. And the thing is that, you know, a chan smaller running back, been prone to injury already so far. Could be a guy that's actually interesting for fantasy betting purposes.

Jason: 23:42

A hundred percent. Kind of the same thing here when we move over to the bills, you know, nothing spectacular. They, they needed quarterback and edge the most and they drafted quarterback, defensive tackle in edge. They went with Maxwell Harrison in the first round. TJ Sanders, Landon Jackson, Dion Walker in the fourth, Jordan Hancock in the fifth, Jackson Hawes, Dorian Strong in the sixth, Jason L. And in the seventh, Caden Prather, which was the only wide receiver they took, other than the tight end, all they drafted was defensive, tackles, cornerbacks, and Edge. And they, they slipped the offense in, in the, in the back half of the draft.

pershin: 24:29

Yeah, I, I felt like they did exactly what I recommended in our preview video, which is spend the first couple days attacking defense, particularly cornerback. And that's exactly what they did. So you know, it, it, it wasn't a necessarily a big flashy moves made or anything like that, but they just did what they should have done. So maybe it's a little bit on the boring side, but it's also just on the smart side. The one thing I will say is that their first round pick. He went towards the back of the first round and every other player that got drafted before him, he was hyping every single one of them up. I'm like, oh my God, look at this guy's positivity. Like as a coach, you, you gotta, you gotta love to see that. You're like, this is gonna be the right attitude in the locker room. Every single player that walked past him, he is like, hell yeah, dog. Get your money man. Do it up. You're gonna be good. You're gonna kill it. I was like, damn. I like, I just, I love those kind of attitudes in any sort of team cooperative setting, you know?

Jason: 25:34

Oh, for sure. For sure. You know,'cause it was such a long walk from the green room to the stadium. Had to get that hype trained. Okey dokie. Switching on over. Switching gears to the A FC North, we're gonna start with the Baltimore Ravens. Let's see here. First round pick, Malachi starts at number 27, second round. Pick the controversial Mike Green. Is he gonna play with his allegations? I don't know. Third round, Emory Jones, Jr. Fourth round. Teddy Buchanan. Fifth round. Carson Vincent. Six. Round Ko. Six round. Tyler. Luke, LA Wester. An Ez Pebbles, I feel like I'm saying that wrong. Peebles. An Peebles. I,

pershin: 26:28

it's Anani. I'm pretty sure they were saying his name. Name an pee. Yeah, I, I'm pretty sure it's ans Peebles.

Jason: 26:36

Okay. Ans Peebles, Robert Long. And Garrett, don't Robert longer be outta a Rutgers, what a hell of a quarterback name.

pershin: 26:49

Yeah. I feel like this is the team that I maybe drafted an entire draft of players that I had absolutely no idea who they were before hearing their names. Like, to be honest with you, I mean, you know, me, I, I've, I focus on, I mean, two guys, you know, I focus on fantasy, you know, offensive skill players and stuff like that. And, and it's just all of these guys were either way, way, way down draft boards or they were in positions that I just never care about. So I, I'm not, I'm not so sure I have much to add to this one. Really. There's,

Jason: 27:27

I mean, they knocked it out of the park with their first round pick. This guy was, you know, he's position, he is number two at his position, I guess. So, you know,

pershin: 27:36

I, I will say the analysts that were on TV were impressed with their draft. They were talking about how the ravens year after year seemed to just take whatever players seemed to be falling. Obviously I've talked about before. I think that's the best strategy. And so

Jason: 27:53

the, you take what the board has given you.

pershin: 27:56

Yeah. You see that the eagles do this often. They, they'll just draft whoever was su supposed to go higher than this. And I, I don't think it's any coincidence that the Ravens and the Eagles are competitive teams year after year.

Jason: 28:13

Yep. Okay. Going to the Bengals, they drafted number one, first round in number 17, Shamar Stewart, Demetrius Knight, Jr. In the second round. Dylan Fairchild in the third round. Barrett Carter in the fourth round. Jalen Rivers in the fifth, and Taj Brooks in the sixth. Yeah, man. What do you, what do you think? I think I had Shamar Stewart going a little bit later, but

pershin: 28:41

Yeah.

Jason: 28:42

You know, what do you think about? Yeah,

pershin: 28:43

I think for the most part, this was like a pretty straightforward, most of their picks were pretty appropriate right around where they were kind of expected to go. These, these guys for the most part seem like pretty decent talents. The one thing I'll say is that I really love Taj Brooks as an underrated back. This is a guy, when you watch him play, his offensive line was so bad and he was constantly making lemonade out of lemons where he was constantly under duress and he was making guys miss as soon as he got the ball, get getting three or four yards on something that should have been a loss, you know, and, and right now they, they just have Chase Brown and they've got Zach Moss. Zach Moss coming off of a, a bad neck injury. I would not be surprised if Taj Brooks not only makes the team, but he actually becomes that backup. And he, he's just a guy that I'm rooting for

Jason: 29:42

a hundred percent. Yeah, I mean, I like the, I like the draft. Not bad. Moving to the Browns, the most perplexing our. Team team where I, I was perplexed by their picks. They were, they were, yeah. They started out good. They started out good. Mason Graham, you know, getting that defensive tackle and, but they traded back, so they traded out of the Travis Hunter sweepstakes. And then I'm just like, why wouldn't you just trade back again? Like get, like you need picks, man. You need to get rookies on your team for salary cap reasons. But it nonetheless, Carson Inger in the second round, qui Quin, Quin, Sean Judkins in the second round running back. I like that pick. That was, that was a great pick for them. Harold Fanon Jr. In the third round. And then here's where it gets spicy. We trade up to get Dylan Gabriel. Who is on record of saying that he does not like playing in the cold, and that the warmer it is, the better he is. I also just feel like there were better quarterbacks out there at that time. Still on the board. Kyle MCC Will, Howard Sanders,

pershin: 31:06

I mean, Jalen Miller was still on the board at that

Jason: 31:08

point. Jalen Miller. Yeah. And then in the fourth round they went, Dylan Sampson running back out to Tennessee. And then in the fifth round they ended the drought and they finally picked Shado Sanders, which they traded up to get again. So it just like, so now we have 5, 6, 6 quarterbacks in that room. You know, I mean Yeah. At this point, like,

pershin: 31:38

you got you, because you, you already, you traded for picket. Which was wild. Yeah. You actually gave something up to bring Pickett in and you signed Flaco and you still got

Jason: 31:53

Deshaun, but you even waited a year after you even waited a year to sign Flaco. You didn't wanna do it right after he took you to the playoffs.

pershin: 32:00

Oh, yeah. Yeah. They, they, they didn't wanna deal with the fans constantly chanting Flaco and trying to put pressure to bring Flaco in the game because they knew that the truth was Deshaun is struggling and Flacco actually did pretty well with that team when he got in there. And so the fans love him, but the thing is, they got all this guaranteed Watson, they got all this guaranteed money go coming to Deshaun. So they didn't want that kind of controversy, I guess. But the crazy thing is, is that they already had three quarterbacks in the building. And then they, they decided that they needed to draft a quarterback because they know that even if Flaco works out for this season, he's not the answer long term. So I don't mind that they decided to draft a quarterback despite Right. Bringing him in. But the thing is that the, the, the owner. Intervenes after they've already gotten their quarterback and says, oh, Shado iss still on the board. I want you guys to grab Shado. And it's like, oh

Jason: 33:07

my gosh.

pershin: 33:08

It's like, yo, dude. And bro, when ESPN cut to their, to their draft room, did you see the looks on their faces?

Jason: 33:17

Yeah. But they tried to play that off and say that, that you don't know when that was, at what point in time that was that No, they don't sink it up

pershin: 33:27

and no, I, I'm calling shenanigans on that. They, they were not happy about having to picture door. I think that what happened is the owner stepped in and said, I know you guys put him, took him off the draft board. Guess what? I want you to draft him. And, and

Jason: 33:48

he's back in, baby.

pershin: 33:49

And so that's why they were all disappointed.'cause the, the, the fact of the matter is they had decided before the draft even happened that they didn't wanna deal with. The things that come along with Shado, whether it's him, him himself, and his attitude that he had in their interactions, or it's, it's about Dion and the way that Dion deals with the media and yada yada, and that for whatever reason, they didn't, they just didn't want him in the building. And the owner at some point was like, Hey, this guy's gotta be of value now, right? Like, we're bringing him in.

Jason: 34:22

I don't know. I'm just, I'm starting to think that they just didn't really think Shado was that good. Well, that's part of it. Like, only only tape you ever see is his dad is his coach. Yeah. You know, and then, yeah. Yeah. I mean, so, and then, you know, you start to, that's just, that's just kinda where I took it. I was like, man, this dude just isn't that good. But however, if he ends up being really good, like. Hell of a pick by the owner there.

pershin: 34:57

Oh yeah. Good. And, and not only do you hit on a rookie qb, but you, the amount of money that you're paying a fifth round pick for their rookie contract is like nothing. Yeah.

Jason: 35:09

So, like you, he's making less money now than he would've if he was in college.

pershin: 35:14

You could afford to go on a shopping spree and free agency next year, you know what I mean? And, and try to try to build a contender of the

Jason: 35:21

yeah. Cam Ward's contract's gonna be like 48 million. Shado is gonna be like four.

pershin: 35:26

Yeah. And so the, if he does hit, they're, they're gonna have a huge savings that way. And they're, they're finally gonna get Deshaun off the books next season. So it's like, it would be a lot of free agents they could afford, you know, they could bring in more people. That's basically what the 49 ERs did when, when they hit on Purdy, they were like, oh, let's, we're signing fucking McCaffrey and we're signing this guy, and this guy and this guy. And

Jason: 35:53

they said, they opened up the checkbook and said, let's go shopping.

pershin: 35:56

Yep, yep. We got a free QB for at least a couple seasons here. So but it, but at, at any rate, I, I did think it was perplexing the way that it went down. They took quinone in the second, which I don't mind, I think he is worth the second round. Pick it. He is a really good, yeah, I'm not mad at that. But then they followed it up early fourth round with Dylan Sampson, and it's like, all right, so you're picking two quarterbacks and you're picking two running backs. And it's like, I, it, it's just weird. It's like, your team needs other things than, than this. Like, you know what I mean? It's like.

Jason: 36:34

I get it. They're, do you think this was the plan that they told Miles Garrett about to like, get him to resign?

pershin: 36:42

There's no way. Right. They're like, we're, they're like, they're like, we're gonna bring in two running backs, which isn't gonna help you at all, but we're also going to bring in this really, really short quarterback that doesn't like to play in the cold, and we're gonna bring in Ur Sanders who's gonna get in an argument with you day one. Like,

Jason: 37:01

because he doesn't even

pershin: 37:02

wanna be there. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's just wild. It's wild. I think there's a good chance that both of the quarterbacks they drafted don't wanna be there. I mean, the guy literally said, I, I don't wanna go to like a cold weather team. He did. He, he might not have said it that directly, but you know what I mean? He is like,

Jason: 37:21

oh, he said

pershin: 37:22

it.

Jason: 37:23

It's like, I'll take that directly.

pershin: 37:26

I mean, it's just, I, I don't know. I don't know. I just, why would you draft him? I think all, all of these quarterbacks they brought in, I, I think Flacco's just gonna be the quarterback this season and they're gonna be back at square one.

Jason: 37:40

That's what I think. Yep, yep. Agreed. Alright, well let's hit up the A FC South. Let's start with Houston. They did not have a pick in the first round, so they started in the second round. Jayden Higgins, Ariane Ary. That's a tough name to say, man, they gonna have a problem with that. Jaylen Noel. Oh, we went back to back Jaylen's in the third round. Jalen Noel and Jaylen Smith from the same college team. No one went to Iowa State. One USC. Then Woody Marks who went to USC then. A third Jalen in the sixth round. Jalen Reed out of Penn State, and then sixth round Graham Mertz, seventh round, Kete Hamilton, and seventh round, Luke Lackey. Man, they drafted a lot of Jalen. They did, like they got, they got, they have four dudes that the first three letters of their names start with JAY. Wow. Jayden, Higgins, Jaylen Noel, Jaylen Smith and Jaylen Reed. Wow. And swell. I, I like their, they definitely need all these wide receivers.

pershin: 38:56

Yeah. I, I like their approach here of saying like, we're gonna take some of these talented receivers they're not like blue chips or anything, but it's like, we're just gonna take a bunch of stabs at you know, guys who will work out. They brought in, christian Kirk, which is fine. But they, they know that he's not the long-term answer. They would love to get another young wide receiver that they could put alongside Nico Collins and hopefully bolster that offensive line. And I think that, that this is a good approach. We saw you know, your, your own packers did this like two or three years ago where they, they took a bunch of pass catchers in the same draft, two tight ends, three four wide receivers, whatever it was. And and it, it, it worked out at least, at least that very next season was a huge improvement, you know, and the upside for. All of them maybe hasn't quite hit the way that we hoped it would. But I think that in general, this is a good strategy. If, if you really have a problem at a certain position and you wanna get young there, just go ahead and like admit to yourself that like

Jason: 40:04

draft the votes. Yeah.

pershin: 40:05

Admit to yourself that like, we're not just going to put all our eggs in one basket and, and just be a thousand percent confident that we know which one's gonna hit. Like go ahead and just take your shots. Take take several shots. I like it. I think that both Jaylen Noel and Jayden Higgins have a decent sort of production resume in college. Would not shock me if both of them are actually good receivers for them.

Jason: 40:32

Yep. Okay. Moving on to the Indianapolis Colts. Must have been real surprised when Tyler Warren was still hanging around in the 14th pick. And then in the second round they took JT. To Mahu, Tolo to, I hate that name. Why? We're just gonna say jt. They took jt then in the third round, Justin Wally, fourth round, Jalen Travis, fifth round, DJ Giddens, sixth round, got a quarterback. Riley. Leonard, they were not comfortable with their quarterbacks that they have on the roster apparently. So we're gonna add once a Duke sensation. Now Notre Dame Riley Leonard also added Tim Smith and a Hunter Waller. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, I think they, that was a pretty solid draft of them. I, I like the tied in pick. I cannot believe he was not the first tied in off the board. But yeah, the bears still suck.

pershin: 41:37

What, and what's the crazy thing about it is that they. They telegraphed their move. Like they literally came out and said I forgot the owner's name is right. He, he actually come out and said that like, like best case scenario is that Tyler Warren is still there and we don't have to try to trade up to get him. Like they really wanted to get him and every other team in the league knew that if they wanted them, they'd have to trade up ahead of'em. I thought maybe you'd see a team trade up ahead of'em to make sure that they got'em, but no, they just got to get their guy straight out. So I feel like it worked out for them. This is a, a really good running back class. A lot of teams were able to get a quality guy day three. I think that they did the same thing in DJ Giddens. I think he's going to gonna instantly be the backup to Jonathan Taylor and he's gonna be a much better backup than Trey Sermon was last year. I think that quality debt piece for them and, that's about it. Not, not much to add aside from those.

Jason: 42:40

Okay. Moving, moving on to the Jacksonville Jaguars. I thought their draft was kind of interesting that they moved up to get Travis Hunter in the first round and then Caleb ran, saw in the third round, Wyatt Milam in the third. I'm not even gonna attempt the running back in the fourth round out of Virginia Tech Bay Showten. Basal Toten. Okay. And then Jack Kaiser, Jalen McCloud in the sixth Ray Lane, third in the sixth, Jonah in the seventh. And. Yeah, they, they looked like they went the strategy of just get two of everything. Yeah. Two quarterbacks, two running backs. Two linebackers.

pershin: 43:29

Yeah. So pretty interesting. I don't like this draft. Cohen comes in and he's basically like, I want my guys like I feel like they had a, a, a decent sort of set of running backs there. And he's like, no, I'm, I'm gonna draft two more running backs because I'm not satisfied with Travis ETN and Tank Bigs be okay, fine. But then he trades so much like he gives up so much to trade up and get Travis Hunter.

Jason: 44:04

Yeah.

pershin: 44:04

And I think it's a pretty interesting fit there, but I. Man, you just gave up way too much in the future to make sure that you get this guy, like this guy has to work out or else that's a horrible deal. You know what I mean? And so I, I, I think Travis Hunter is obviously a, a really fun, fun prospect and I hope that he's able to play a bunch on both sides of the ball. But with Brian Thomas already there and already have shown us how good he was his first season, I feel like there's no way that he's going to be like the alpha in this. I think he's gonna get rotated in and, you know, he is gonna play some on the defense as well and it kind of makes it for an awkward landing spot. Whereas if he would've went to the Browns, they basically already signaled full-time wide receiver, plus a little bit of cornerback, which would've been much more exciting for people like me who like to play DFS and, and fantasy football and all that. But. I think it's, this is a pretty good draft as in like, I like a lot of the players that they drafted. But man, they just gave up way too much for that specific trade up in my opinion. I don't, I, I don't love the draft because I just feel like you went way outta your way to make sure that you got your preferred dudes and it's like,

Jason: 45:31

okay, it better fucking work out. Yeah. I would've liked, I would've liked for them to, to spread it out a little bit more. I feel like they had a lot of needs and they did not they addressed them, but they could have done more, I feel like.

pershin: 45:44

Yeah. I actually thought they might have been training up to make sure they got Will Campbell or something. They need offensive line help big time.

Jason: 45:51

Right. Okay. Going to the first round, first pick in the draft this year. Campbell Ward at the Tennessee Titans. We all knew what, what was happening. He knew it was happening, so no surprise there. At number two, Ola Dejo UCLA. Edge at number three, Kevin Winston, Jr. At number four, Kai Mary Dyke at number four. It's dk, it's D

pershin: 46:27

That's funny. This man. Yeah. Here we're with the names. It's, it's supposed to be pronounced kake.

Jason: 46:37

And then gunner Helm lik. Io Manor, I mean Jackson Slater, Marcus Harris Inc. K Mullins. Yeah. What do you think about Tennessee's? I mean, they needed a quarterback that was the best thing they could have done. Yeah. Other than that, I mean, I don't like the, yeah, they got more wide receiver help, but

pershin: 47:04

I don't like the Khalil Mullens pick it. It wasn't like a day one draft pick or anything like that. But the, this, this draft class was packed with so many, like good running bags that were still available. They actually picked him over guys that just had better profiles. And so I thought that was weird. But I. Other than that, I thought some of this fell to them. Alec ior for a lot of people, was like a second round draft pick, so he, he basically fell to them. I think he's interesting. He has some upside sort of player that could play a true X for you. And those are rare to find, you know? I think that this was basically a pretty good draft in, you know, this is just kind of a solid take, take some decent values for the most part. I, I don't like that Khalil Mullen's pick, but other than that seems pretty solid.

Jason: 48:03

Alright, going to your favorite division, the A FC West. The way A FC West. Not the best. Alright, let's start with the Denver Bronca man. First round Ade Barry, second round, RJ Harvey, third round. Pat Bryant Ion Jones, fourth round QQ Robinson, sixth round. Jeremy Cross Hall and seventh round. Caleb Loaner. Yeah. You guys got a loaner on your team? Got, yeah. What do you, I mean, take it away. What'd you think of this draft? It didn't take run back. Wanted them to. I

pershin: 48:48

was shocked. They, they, like Sean Peyton threw me way off and literally shocked me with this. Like, I thought that they were going to take Omar and Hampton or Trayvon Henderson and instead they go cornerback, which I was not expecting to be on their priority list that I. According to Peyton, he was just one of the top 10 players on their big board. So he felt like they, like he fell to them and he just really wanted to get a really great player. Hopefully that's true. I know most big boards had him going after where the, the Bronco selected him. So it's almost like, it's almost like, ah, okay, well hopefully your scouts are better than all the others. Right. But

Jason: 49:34

is Sean Payton usually a liar? He seems like a liar.

pershin: 49:37

Oh yeah. Yeah. He's one of like, on the coach speak index. He's fucking pants on fire. Like he's, he lies his ass off, bro. Unfortunately, he lies early and often, but then you know, they, they traded back in the second round, which I was fine with. But then they take RJ Harvey, who's certainly not a bad running back, but they take RJ Harvey. Well, I. Guys like Caleb Johnson, Dylan Sampson, cam Scbu are all still on the board. And I really was not expecting, I would, I literally, I would've expected basal Tootin to go ahead of RJ Harvey. He's a guy who broke out his final season. He's already 24 years old. Took him a long time to actually get to that level of productivity. Has some genuine explosiveness, but has question marks as when it comes to both pass catching and past blocking. He just wasn't asked to do much of it in college. And so it, it shocked me because I thought those were the things that he was going to prioritize the most with his running back selection. And it's almost like that took a backseat to explosive between the tackle sort of specialist. Hey, I, you know, he's got some good tape out there. Hopefully he'll work out, I think. There's no question that he's gonna be day one starter. So hopefully he works out for us. I hated the third round pick. It's not that I hate Pat Bryant as a player. I think he's actually an interesting player, but I almost certainly, you could have just got him in day three. The, it was such a reach, everyone was shocked. I was shocked. You know, this is the sort of guy that Peyton would like. He did like in, in the post draft presser. He, he literally compared him two or three times to Michael Thomas. So I think he is in the back of his head constantly searching for the next Michael Thomas. This is a big wide receiver who has really reliable hands. But, but pretty much everything else is, is like that developmental thing. Like he, he doesn't run a full route tree. He doesn't seem to be really good at separating in general. So it, you know, but he is a very big wide receiver who's great in, in blocking for the run game. And he's also a really reliable pass catcher, which was a lot like what Michael Thomas was for him. So hopefully he could develop into a more like, well-rounded, wide receiver and actually, you know, be worth what we paid for him. But I mean, this was a guy that some people had as an undrafted, like A-U-D-F-A type talent and he snagged him in the third just to make sure he got steal. And it's like, well, you got him. So I guess you got that part of it done, but it's like, you might as well just traded back again. You know what I mean? So I, I didn't love it. Hopefully it works out, you know?

Jason: 52:46

Wow, wow. Didn't love it. Hate that for you.

pershin: 52:50

Yeah.

Jason: 52:52

Moving over to the Chiefs in their first round pick, they traded with the Eagles one spot and picked up Josh Simmons and in the second round, Omar Norman lot, third round, Ashton Gel, third round, Noah Williams, fourth round, Jay Boyles, fifth round, Jeffrey Besa, seventh round bro. Smith Pepper Smith's pretty is kind of sneaky in the seventh round outta smu. He's gonna be pretty, he was pretty legit there. Yeah. So that should be pretty good for them. Otherwise I, you know, when you're a team that goes to the Super Bowl, you know, you just kind of need to reload and. They I feel like they needed some help on that defense, and that's what they got as well as the offensive line. What do you think about the team? Yeah,

pershin: 53:47

I thought they did a pretty good job. I, I felt like they got decent value for their trade back and they were able to land. Josh Simmons, this guy that you and I were both hyping up in the preview to the draft episode. And then as you already alluded to, they got pretty good value in Burchard Smith. It was his first year converted from wide receiver, first year playing, running back at SMU, highly productive look really good. Goes to the Senior Bowl and shows out, look like one of the best running backs there at the Senior Bowl. And a lot of people were expecting him to probably go third, fourth round, somewhere around where Basal Tootin and Camp Scbu went. But instead he goes all the way to the seventh. So you gotta love that value. And not only that, but Jalen Royal's a small school guy who really showed out, also fell to them. A lot of people thought he might go in the second round. He didn't. I, I, I just feel like they did a good job scooping up some value on day three, which is all you could hope for on day three, in my opinion.

Jason: 54:56

I mean, that's what you do when you're a team like that. You know, you pick up kind of like the best available or the best value at the position that you're really wanting to shore up, which they did so good on the Chiefs. I expect them to be right back in the playoff hunt. Okay, moving over to the Raiders. They took Ashton Genty great pick. Why them in the first round? Second round, Jack Beck, third round, Darien and Porter. Caleb Rogers, Charles Grant, fourth round, Dante Thornton, Jr. Tonka. Hemingway. Great name, great name. Tonka Hemingway sixth round. JJ Peggys, Tommy Millott Cam, cam Miller in the seventh round. Cody Lindenberg. So yeah, I mean they needed wide receiver help on offense. They, you know, got another quarterback to at least take a look at. They got plenty of offensive line help. I mean, I would consider this a pretty solid draft for them. Like a, you know, an a a, yeah, like I thought it was pretty good for them. I agree with you. I like the picks they got.

pershin: 56:17

I agree with you and, and even more so, I agree with you on Tonka. We, we need to have more Tonka out there to all, all you for indicators out there. If you have a son, name him Tonka. In fact, why, why not Tonka? If, if you have a child name it Tonka of some sort.

Jason: 56:35

Also, he went to South Carolina, so, I mean better. Even better.

pershin: 56:39

Hey, yo. So yeah, I, I thought it was a pretty decent draft.

Jason: 56:48

Alright, moving on over to muted. Am I still muted?

pershin: 56:54

Yeah, I can hear you now.

Jason: 56:57

Moving on over to the Chargers, who I thought had one of the best drafts just Harbaugh at it again, stealing your boy Omar and Hampton. Just getting another, running back, another wide receiver, Trey Harris, Jamari Caldwell, Kyle Ard, Keandre Lambert Smith in the fifth, or Rre. Gadson the second in the fifth. Branson Taylor and RJ McKen in the sixth and Trick Weezy Bridges in the in the seventh. Why is his name?

pershin: 57:34

I swear, man. NFL Players love have the craziest names, bro.

Jason: 57:40

I love it.

pershin: 57:41

There's just not that many Dave Smiths in the NFL bro. There really isn't.

Jason: 57:47

No man. I'm a dude. What do you think about this man? Harbaugh, for me, knocked it out of the park.

pershin: 57:54

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he. He kind of surprised people with the O Omarion Hampton pick because they just signed Najee in free agency. But he said in the, in the post draft presser, he was like, man, I, I was surprised that Omarion was still there. He was like, I expected both the, the bears and the Broncos to Right, like be in on O omarion and the fact that that, you know, our top two tight ends were already off the board, and this guy, this like stud talent just falls to us. We were like, well. Alright. We got two great running backs now. Like,

Jason: 58:35

I mean, it's, yeah, it's a great combination. It's like you got a, you got kind of like a bruiser and na and then this guy can,

pershin: 58:41

I mean, the cool thing about Omar and Hampton is you, he'll play whatever role you want him to. I mean, he, he right, he's good as a power back, but he's also got pretty good burst and, and 40 speed. And then he's, he's solid as a pass catcher and he could even run some sort of routes like out of the backfield and, you know, lined up like in line. And he's maybe not like fully developed as, as a past blocker, but he's also like. Pretty good. Like he's not bad or anything, so it's like he's so dynamic that this is a great back to have in your backfield. And also they, they signed Najee to a three year deal, but it's actually just the first season that's guaranteed. So if they do love what they're seeing from Omarion, they could just move on from Najee after this coming season for no sort of dead money or anything, you know? So I think it makes a lot more sense. What, after you hear him talk about it, you're like, oh, okay. I, I see her. And the thing is that this is the kind of ball that Harbaugh wants to play anyways. He, he would love to be able to just run it 25, 30 times a game. And so having two guys that he feels like are both starter caliber, it just leans into that, you know.

Jason: 59:59

Yep. Couldn't agree more. That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah.

pershin: 1:00:02

I I also love the Trey Harris pick too. This is a guy who specializes in field stretching. He probably is best as a flaker or like a deep slot sort of guy. But either way, this is the element that they, that they wanted the most is like a, a actual field stretcher as, as dynamic as lad McConkey is. He's not got a blazing 40 time, you know, and Mike Williams has had so many injuries that he also is not a field stretcher these days either. He's gonna be a good contested catch guy and he's gonna be good around the goal line, but they, they really were lacking someone to sort of stretch the field for them. And that's what Trey Harris can, can bring. So I just feel like this, these were really good, at least offensively, really good picks for them.

Jason: 1:00:57

Yes. All right. Going to the NFC, we're gonna hit up, what is this, the NFC East, starting with Dallas Cowboys. America's team number one. First round Tyler Booker. Then second round Donovan, easy third round, Shavon Rel Jr. Fifth round Jaden Blue Shamar. James, sixth round. John a Cornelius. Seventh round. J Toa, seventh round. Phil MoFA. Hello. Seventh round. Tommy king Bete. Wow.

pershin: 1:01:42

I've never heard of that guy either.

Jason: 1:01:45

Neither have I. I'm just

pershin: 1:01:46

gonna assume that you knocked it outta the park.

Jason: 1:01:50

I am gonna hope that I knocked it out the park, right. Yeah, man. What do you think about the cowgirls rep?

pershin: 1:01:56

I was shocked that they did not like focus on running back in wide receiver early. I, it just seems like a clear need and I guess they got a lot of needs. So I, I don't know. They, they really waited on these positions though. They ended up scooping up a couple running backs in, in J on Blue, who's an interesting guy. He's very, very fast as a runner. He's a little bit undersized and he specialized primarily in the passing game, so it's almost like he's already got a scat back. In Avante Williams. And so this is a weird sort of fit. I think Phil Moffa, even though he went in the seventh round actually might be a little more interesting as a guy who might work his way up that depth chart because I have absolutely no faith in Miles Sanders as like the early down thumper or anything like that. I guess they might be in the running to just sign someone like a Nick Chubb or something, but I thought that they were gonna do more to address the backfield and the wide receiver position. And right now it's looking like Avante Williams is in line to lead the team in, touches outta the backfield. And it looks like maybe Jalen Tolbert is gonna be the second wide receiver pass catching option. I just, I don't love it.

Jason: 1:03:24

Yeah, I thought it was a little strange that they didn't take a single wide receiver.

pershin: 1:03:28

Yeah.

Jason: 1:03:29

Like, like they just didn't even care. And also quarterback, you know, that I thought they would've taken a quarterback at some point and they didn't do that either. So I, I don't know what to think about this. Draft it, they seemed kind of all over the place. They got some needs. They filled some needs, but they filled them, like you said, at a weird time. Like it was almost like they were like they were a day behind on the draft. Yeah, it was, yeah. Alright. Going to the Giants who. For all intents and purposes, Joe Shannon and Brian Abel may have saved their job with this draft, at least for this one year, taking Abdul Carter in the first round, then moving up to get their guy Jackson Dart. They still don't wanna draft the black quarterback. In the third round. Darius Alexander in the fourth round, fantastic value everything. Cambo like he could have gone earlier for sure. That was a great pick by them. Fifth round, Marcus ibo, seventh round, Thomas Poni, the second, and also Cory Black. Outside of the last couple that I, I've never heard of. I thought their first four picks for what they had and what they did. I thought. Was, was much better than what they did last season.

pershin: 1:05:01

Yeah.

Jason: 1:05:01

So,

pershin: 1:05:02

yeah, I, I think Jackson Dart does make a lot of sense as a fit here. Dbol loves these quarterbacks that have strong arms and some, some rushing ability. He loves having his quarterback do design runs. I mean, he literally had you know, Tommy Cutlets and I'm, I'm blanking on his name. The, the, the, the, the Broncos draft pick, drew Locke. He literally had designed run place for those guys. So you know, this is right up his alley. Jackson Dart has a cannon of an arm, has some, some rushing upside, he's gotta be more consistent as an accurate passer, especially in the, the intermediate ranges. But the, i, this is a good fit. I think that if, if Jackson Dart is gonna work out, it'll be a spot like this. I also think that they did well to pick up Cams Scbu on the fourth. A lot of people thought he could go on the second or third. I think that that's a really good fit for them. They've got Tyrone Tracy that showed some upside, particularly as a pass catching back. I think that now Cam Scbu can add that element of short yardage power back, you know, can, can grind out a couple hard yards if that's what you need or whatever. Devin Singletary wasn't getting it done in that respect. So I, I think it's gonna be something of a 50 50 timeshare between Tracy and SCBU, but I think it's gonna work well for what they're, they're trying to get and, and New York. And so I kind of agree with you a lot of the day three guys. I, I really just don't know much about, but the you know, the first couple days I thought that they did really well.

Jason: 1:06:55

Yeah. I'm interested to see how, how their draft works out on, on the field, you know, see if it translates into more wins. Okay. Going to the Super Bowl champions, the Philadelphia Eagles traded up in the first round with the Chiefs, one spot to get Jihad Campbell. Then in the second round former. UBA now, Texas Safety in the fourth round. Ty Robinson, fifth round, McWilliams, Schmale Mo Modem Jr. Drew Kendall. And in the sixth round they got a hell of a backup quarterback out of Kyle McCord. This guy could have been a, could be a starter in the NFL and he's gonna be a backup to Jalen Hurtz, also took Miles Hinton, Cameron Williams and Antoine Powell. Ryland in the six round, no seventh round picks. Yeah. I mean, they went, you know, defense early on and then, you know, took a, took a look at a couple offensive line guys, which for all, all intents and purposes is, you know what I would, I would've liked to have seen out of them. I like, I even like the Kyle McCord pick. I think even as a backup, he's a bonafide beast. As a backup. Yeah. In my opinion.

pershin: 1:08:23

Yeah. You and I talked about this before, after he transferred to Syracuse, he looked so much better in his final year. He just made so, so much improvement that it's like, Hey, maybe he does have NFL potential. I was hoping that he would land on one of these rosters with shit quarterbacks, be honest with you. So that, that way maybe Right. Maybe he'll have a chance. I think as long as he stays in Philly, I, I, he, you know, he's just gonna be a backup. But you know, he might beat out Tanner McKee and, you know, get himself a second contract as a backup or whatever. But you know, for they have paid the hell outta Jalen Hurts. And Jalen Hurts obviously is been good. So he, it not the best landing spot, but I agree with you sort of guy that I'm rooting for.

Jason: 1:09:11

Yeah.

pershin: 1:09:12

Okay.

Jason: 1:09:14

Going to the commanders first round. Josh Connerley Jr. Second round, Trey Amos, fourth round, Jaylen Lane, sixth round. Kane Madano and seventh Round. Jaco, Croskey Merri. My favorite pick about the commanders was Trey Ammos. I thought that was just a, yeah, a really solid cornerback on the board. Nice position spot to take him at in the second round, late in the second round. I thought he could have moved up a board a little bit earlier, and so I think he kind of fell to them and

pershin: 1:09:50

yeah.

Jason: 1:09:50

Yeah, that's what I think about

pershin: 1:09:51

the, I agree. Such a great pick. It was the perfect combination of of value that's basically kind of fallen to you and it's position of need. It's something that you really need, and so it's like. There you go. Perfect. Sort of combination there. I really like the Jako, Krosky Merit pick. This is a guy who unfortunately has been hurt for the majority of his collegiate career, but every time that he's played, he's been really productive. The you know, the tape grinders say that he looks really good when he's out there. And then he, he showed out in the not the senior bowl, but the other one, the what are they? The shrine bowl he showed out in the Shrine Bowl. Yeah. And caught some eyes there and you know, got a little buzz for himself. And a lot of people thought, well, this isn't the kind of guy that's gonna get drafted. He actually did get drafted, which is, which I, I think is great. And you know, he's, he's basically behind you know. A guy that's already in his thirties in Austin Eckler, I could totally see him being as good as what they say that he was supposed to be. And as long as he doesn't continue to get these huge injuries, maybe he has a chance to be the backup there. Brian Robinson probably has the priority sort of over him, but I think Eckler is just getting up there. You know, he could fall off any day. I think most people would agree that he's already has lost a step. But interesting name, just to keep on the radar.

Jason: 1:11:29

All right, and then we'll go over to the NFC North, the best division, the greatest division in all of football. And we'll start with the Chicago Bears who took the Mindboggling second best tight end on the, on the board at the time with Colston Loveland in the first round and then in second round, Luther Bird ii Ozzy Trap, Shamar Turner. In the fourth round, Ruben Hip Elite, the second, fifth round, za Frazier, sixth round, Luke Newman, and seventh round, Kyle Monga. Yeah, man. And you know, as I said earlier, the bears still suck. So this was a perplexing first round for me and. Just an interesting draft overall. What do you do think?

pershin: 1:12:22

Yeah. I think it's a, it's actually a pretty good fit for the running back. I was expecting them to go running back early. I absolutely did not think they were just gonna stick with Deandre Swift, but turns out they're. Not necessarily in a rush to replace him. There was ton of good options in this draft class if they wanted to. I think the Manon guy is a pretty good sort of compliment to Deandre Swift though where Deandre is more like a on the lighter side and he's like elusive, evasive Mannu guy's just a bowling ball who will just get you two or three hard yards, you know what I mean? So

Jason: 1:13:03

I think he, yeah, he is only five eight, so

pershin: 1:13:06

yeah. I mean, he, like, if, if you watch him play, you're like, oh shit. It's like a, a. A ball of iron that's just coming barreling down.

Jason: 1:13:16

Mike Tolbert put it, you know, plowing

pershin: 1:13:18

into something. It's like a construction equipment or something. But I really was not expecting him to draft another wide receiver and tight end like Cole commit was pretty decent for them last year. Right. The only reason why he didn't get more targets is because they were absolutely loaded at wide receiver. And then they take a wide receiver this year. Turns out it, he basically talked about this in his post draft presser. Ben Johnson is trying to change the culture over there. Yeah. He was not happy when he saw the comments that both Cole commit and DJ Moore made to the media last year. They basically were, were throwing. Coaching slash Caleb under the bus and basically saying like, oh, the, you know, I we're being let down by this person or that person, and basically blaming people openly. Wow. Yeah. And he was like, we don't, we're not gonna tolerate that here. And so it, it's basically like. You know, you're on notice that you,

Jason: 1:14:28

here's your replacement.

pershin: 1:14:29

Yeah. Like you, if you don't, if you don't shape up and, and you don't need to be part of this team. You know, like we can, we can find people that we like, have what we think is the right attitude and, and that, and so it was really interesting that he was more so concerned with. Setting a certain tone, then he was actually trying to feel spots of need. I think that that could end up biting him in the ass. But also he's been really, really good at, at designing offenses everywhere he's been. So I don't wanna, I don't wanna, you know, second guess him. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt here. Maybe they find, trade partners and they actually just trade away DJ Moore and Cole commit. And these are in, in that case you know, pretty good draft picks if that is the plan down the road or, or whatever it is. But I just thought it was interesting that he was very open and direct about, like, he wants to make sure that there's no pissy attitudes going around in the locker room. In a way I respect it. But in a way it's, it's kind of like they had needs that they didn't, it seems like they just didn't feel so what'd you think?

Jason: 1:15:44

The bears still suck? I agree. Okay. I agree. I mean, they, that was just a wasted draft for them because of a few attitudes.

pershin: 1:15:54

Yeah. I mean, if everyone stays on the team, you just, you got players you don't need, like, you're gonna, you're gonna have. You know, a well-paid Cole commit sit in the bench, you're gonna have a, a well-paid DJ Moore sit in the bench. That doesn't make any sense. So you're just gonna have Luther Burden sit in the bench. Then like it's, it doesn't fit. There's too much, you know? So, I don't know.

Jason: 1:16:18

Yep. Moving on over to the Motor City, Detroit Lions with their first round pick. They took Tali Williams second round, Tate Ratledge, third round Isaac Tesla. Must Dad, dad, mom and dad Must have been a Tesla fan. Yeah. Fifth round Miles Frazier, sixth round. Ahad. Hasian, seventh round. Dan Jackson and Dominique. Love it. What'd you think about the lions?

pershin: 1:16:49

I,

Jason: 1:16:50

I didn't

pershin: 1:16:51

love it. The the Tesla pick was perplexing. They actually traded up, they spent two third rounds on a guy who was supposed to be like at the back of the draft. Like he is. He just, it, it was, it was a reach that they didn't, not only did they reach for it, but they traded up and paid extra just to make sure that they got him. And it's like, that's not even a position of need for you. You know, like just keep. Just keep hammering away at that defense. You know, like, it, it is just weird. I just, I some, somebody in that organization has fallen in love with this Tesla kid who's basically just an athlete. He's not well polished as as a football player at all. He's just a size. Speed sort of athletic freak, which is always interesting and is probably worth taking a shout at. But not with two third round picks. Like this is a guy you signed to your practice squad and see if you could coach him up a little bit. You know what I mean? He is an athlete, he is not a football player. It's, it's just wild that they, they saw so much promise in him, and I guess they'll look smart if they turn him into the next Aman rah or Jamo or whatever, but. In all likelihood, you just pissed away two thirds, like yeah, I did. I, I didn't love it, but you know, they, they at least did spend some draft capital on the defense, which I really wanted'em to do. So.

Jason: 1:18:26

Alright. And then getting to the home team in this division, the draft team, green Bay, and the first time in 22 years, took a wide receiver in the first round, which was a complete and utter shock.

pershin: 1:18:45

Yeah.

Jason: 1:18:46

To me and everyone else in Green Bay. And the moment he said he was taking wide receiver, we all said Matthew Golden. I'm not a fan of his size, but the kid is an absolute speedster and I think that just put Christian Watson on notice, which I'm okay if they find trade partners tomorrow for him.'cause as far as I'm concerned, he could have kicked rocks two years ago.

pershin: 1:19:13

He had some sort of setback with his injury that he might not even play this upcoming season.

Jason: 1:19:20

So, but yeah. And then second round, Anthony Belton, which is great. Love, love, always love getting an offensive tackle. You know, lineman, which means we're definitely shuffling some players around on that line. And then the third pick, third round pick, and it's an absolute. Animal. Sion Williams. I mean, this kid, he, he can go up and get the ball. He's got ridiculous speed. He broke 40 tackles last season.

pershin: 1:19:51

Yeah,

Jason: 1:19:51

he, he can get 50 50 balls, which I felt like we needed someone who can get a 50 50 ball, so I love that. Pick. Then in the fourth round, Baron Rell, fifth round, Colin Oliver, sixth round, Warren Brinson. Seventh round, Michael Robinson and John Williams. Now a couple of these, like the Edge rusher Baron Rell. I think he, he could be good, but what I, from what I read, he lacks a little bit of power and I don't really like that. I prefer more power. But he wins well with his hands apparently. So. We will see how that goes. What did, what did you think of the Packers picks?

pershin: 1:20:32

Yeah, I really liked the Savion Williams pick. This is a guy who basically is the opposite of Isaac Tesla, where he's a really outstanding athlete. You know, he is kind of a physical freak except the differences. He's actually shown that he could be productive, both as a running back and a wide receiver on the field, not theoretically or. You know, have to develop all these different skills or whatever. I'm sure there is some, some areas where he's rough around the edges, but I just think that he could, he could play some sort of joker role for you where you can line him up in the backfield, hand the ball off to him, put him in crazy, you know formations just to throw the defense off. They don't know what's going on. If he works out, he could be. You know a mismatch sort of guy where you could always find a way to get him into a mismatch or just be a really obvious tell where you can see what kind of defense they're running based on what they're doing with him. I didn't love the Matthew Golden Pick, but I do love that they're like, Hey, we're doing it. This is our guy we're spending. You know, actual resources on a wide receiver that we love. And so, you know that the fact that they did take a first round wide receiver means that they have a plan for him. They, they have a vision, they see him filling a certain role. I do think it's most like, likely that they want him to be a field stretcher, kind of x receiver like they were using with sorry, I'm, I'm having a brain fart now, but we were just talking about Christian

Jason: 1:22:13

Watson

pershin: 1:22:13

C Thank you. Yeah, I, I think at this point they're not even expecting him to be available next season, so they wanted to get a guy who could stretch the field for him. Matthew Golden certainly does that. I don't love his production profile in college. I think that that's, that's always a little bit of a red flag. We've seen a lot of these speedsters who haven't been productive in college, not actually work out in the NFL. But that being said I like that they're, you know. They're actually going for it at the position where they've been hesitant to put real resources into it.

Jason: 1:22:54

Hey man, Jordan Love said that he was already getting the arm warm for him.

pershin: 1:23:02

Oh wow.

Jason: 1:23:03

Yeah, he's ready to start throwing him the

pershin: 1:23:05

rock. So you think he's going to massage his back or massage his feet?

Jason: 1:23:10

The arm. The arm. Alright, moving over to the Minnesota Vikings. They only had five picks in the first round. Donovan Jackson, second round, Ty Felton, fifth round, or excuse me, that was third round. Ty Felton, fifth round Ion, Ingram Dawkins, sixth round, Kobe King and Gavin Bartholomew. That's a hell of a tight end's name there. Yeah. We think about Minnesota. I mean, they couldn't do much.

pershin: 1:23:43

Yeah. They, I mean, they had a. Very uneventful draft. I think this, this Ty Felton kid is kind of interesting. He's undersized, he's gonna be like a slot only sort of player, but he, he was good at getting open a lot in college. So there's something to sort of look at there and say, all right, maybe he could be their answer. For that third wide receiver and the third wide receiver. Sets. They didn't really have they had like a Jalen nailer. They were thrown into this lot. I think if he does work out, he'll be much more of a natural fit there. Other than that, I just don't even know much about these kids. It seems like all of these went right around where they were projected to go, so I guess more or less a boring draft.

Jason: 1:24:29

Well, moving on to the NFC South Atlanta Falcons, first round, Jalen Walker, James Pierce, Jr. Third round, Xavier Watts, fourth round, Billy Bowman Jr. And seventh round Jack Nelson. I mean, hey, they needed defense and they drafted defense and they made sure they moved up to get two studs. Yeah, so

pershin: 1:24:51

I really like it. I. Not even from a player take perspective, but just they finally did what I have thought they should have done for the past four years, which is focus on getting some pressure to the quarterback. They, they finally got the message and they're like, all right, we're gonna, we're gonna draft some kids who at least have a chance to be good at that. You know, so they did what I would've done myself. So I, I gotta say it's pretty good. I.

Jason: 1:25:23

And then my favorite draft in this division, the Carolina Panthers. Wait. Wow. Wow. As our friend of the Pod Smith would do.

pershin: 1:25:34

Yeah.

Jason: 1:25:35

First round they drafted Ted McMillan second round, Nick Squiring, third round Princely. Fourth round Trevor, ETN, Laton Ransom, fifth round Cam Jackson and Mitchell Evans and sixth Round, I don't know if he's related, but Jimmy Horn Jr. Hopefully they don't treat him like laugh one.

pershin: 1:25:59

What's Prince? Prince's full name?

Jason: 1:26:04

Ooh. I dunno.

pershin: 1:26:06

Yeah. Yeah, so I thought this was pretty good, especially like the first half of the draft. I personally like Ted McMillan, I think he's gonna be a good wide receiver and this is exactly the spot that they needed. They were basically forcing Xavier Legette into that X position last year. He was much better as like a flaker and now they don't have to, they don't have to basically play him out of position. They've got like a real true X and that's going to make things just so much easier for. Putting Jalen Coker, Adam Delan, Xavier Legett, however that rotation sort of gets sorted out. I think that they're gonna be able to put everyone in, in best possible fit instead of having to force people into certain positions that where they, they don't necessarily fit. And I, and I like the guy, I think that he is, kind of underrated as prospect. Highly, highly productive in college. Not the most athletic, but athletic enough. I think a good comprehend would be someone like Drake, London, who we've seen is, has, has developed into a really good wide receiver. And I think eventually Ted will be in that sort of ballpark as well. Nick s Gordon guy that a lot of people expected to go. Like late into the first round, falls to them, into the second round position of need. I think that this is good. Less familiar with, with their, the back half of their draft, but for the most part seems like these guys kind of went where they were expected. So I'll say overall pretty good draft.

Jason: 1:27:53

Then we go to the Saints, who I believe had another perplexing draft. I thought quarterback was a big time need for them. They went Kelvin Banks Jr. In the first round Tyler's show in the second round. Again, there were so many other better quarterbacks ahead of this kid. I mean, and they kept replaying the footage of him at the combine. Absolutely missing the wide receiver.

pershin: 1:28:22

Yeah.

Jason: 1:28:23

And then you could not find enough bad clips of him. So that was kind of funny. Third round, Vernon Brotton, Jonas Sanker, fourth round, Danny Stuntsman, Quincy Riley, sixth round. Devin Neil, seventh round, Malique Vo and Fedil Diggs. What, what else had you thought about this? You know, a Okay. I'd probably give it like a C plus B minus draft.

pershin: 1:28:55

Yeah. I thought like, I don't like the Tyler Schuck pick. First of all, when your name is, is spelled that way, why do you pronounce it shuck annoying? Off the rip, but then like, this guy just struggles with, forcing the ball, like some of his decision making is just not good. On top of accuracy issues, the, the big thing that he's got going for him is he's got maybe the strongest arm in the entire draft. And it's like, okay, fine. That's not a bad thing, but it's like these, I feel like, I feel like this is almost like speed, like how speed is for receivers and these, these teams will fall in love with like. Henry Rugs or Hil Harry are these guys who never work out in the league. I think this happens with quarterback too, where it's like, oh, this guy can throw the ball 60 yards down the field. Okay, that's, that's fine, but that's not gonna make you a great quarterback in the NFL. Like I, I feel like that's the only like really good trait he has. But at any rate. Didn't love that pick. I was fine with the the banks Junior pick. This is a guy that could play multiple positions along the offensive line and. Pretty much they do need multiple positions, so he'll foot he'll fit in wherever is most convenient for them, which I think is great. I like the Devin Neil pick interesting sort of candidate to take to keep your eye on. Again, just a loaded running back class. And he goes to a backfield that's, they definitely have a workhorse in Alvin Kamara, but he's getting up there in age. And Kendra Miller. Who's been the backup has been injured like constantly. And so Devin Neil's a pretty good do it all sort of back. He's not necessarily elite at any given thing, but he, he can do everything pretty well. He actually reminds me of like a Josh Jacobs type, which we've seen be productive in the NFL. So I think the only reason why Devin Neil even goes this far is because there's just so many good running backs that were. Available this year. But this is a guy, if, if Alvin Kamara takes a step, sort of loses a step, or he gets injured, this is a guy to keep an eye on. Okay,

Jason: 1:31:20

moving to Tampa Bay. First round, pick Acca Buca. Second round pick Benjamin Morrison, third round pick, Jacob Parrish. Fourth round pick David Walker, fifth, Elijah Roberts and seventh Teez Johnson. Hey, as we said they needed to take wide receiver'cause they're not getting younger there and they did that. I like, I like their first round pick that's gonna, you know, he doesn't have to have a lot of pressure to be a stud right off the rip.'cause you still got Mike Evans and got and Goodman or Godwin. So what did you think?

pershin: 1:31:57

Yeah, I think there was a lot of talk about how surprising the Buca Pick was. And I get it, it's not like a position of need for them, but the thing is that both Godwin and Mike Evans are getting up there. They know that they're not gonna be the long-term answers, and they just had him really high on their board. So they're like. Well, let's go ahead and take him and he can literally red shirt the first year. That's fine. Like if, if he doesn't get onto the field because we don't need him onto the field, then that's fine. But I like him. I think there's a, a pretty good chance that he'll actually be the third wide receiver ahead of Jalen McMillan. Jalen McMillan looked pretty decent last year when he got a chance, but I, I really like Buca as a prospect. Buca played. Alongside of guys like JSN like Marvin Harrison Jr. This year, they had what's his name? The jam, the, the young kid who's just this gonna be a superstar already. They're anoint the next big thing. I forgot his name, but you know what I'm talking about. The next generational talent, Jeremiah, that's his name. What is it? Jeremiah Smith. Is that his name? He. He played along these, these top tier talents. And he still broke the all time record for both receptions and yardage at Ohio State. So I think that that doesn't happen on accident. I think that he has earned these targets because he is really good at getting open and the underneath he'll probably just be like a slot only guy. They said afterwards that they, they feel like he could probably do more. We'll see. But I do think he's a good wide receiver who's got a pretty high floor and I, I don't hate to pick as much as some people seem to.

Jason: 1:33:52

Right, right. Alright. Moving on to our last division, the NFC West. We'll start off with the Arizona Cardinals. First round pick, Walter Nolan, second round Will Johnson, third round, Jordan Birch, fourth, Cody Simon. Fifth, Denzel Burke six, Hayden Connor, and seven Catan Crawford. Yeah. I didn't, you know, nothing flashy or out Out of the, out of this world.

pershin: 1:34:23

Yeah. I think that they did what they should have. Kind of like the Falcons. Nothing too exciting, but this is just the positions that you needed to address. I think that they got pretty good value actually, out of Will Johnson. A lot of people actually had him as their favorite cornerback and he ends up falling to the second round as the third cornerback off the board. So really nothing to complain about. I think they did what they were supposed to.

Jason: 1:34:52

All right. Going to the Rams, they did not have a first round pick. Second round pick. Terrance Ferguson, third Josiah Stewart, fourth, jarque Hunter, fifth Ty Hamilton, Chris Paul Jr. And then seventh Ada Mum Field. Yeah, I mean, I don't have any, a lot of notes on this'cause, you know. I don't really know a lot of these players'cause they didn't have a lot of picks early on. So what, what are your thoughts? Yeah,

pershin: 1:35:23

I, I think the, the interesting one here is Terrence Ferguson. He really crushed it at the combine. He basically was in the top, I think it was the top three tight end performances at the combine since like 1990. Just a. A really good athletic specimen. He is something of a developmental guy though. He's, he was not really productive. I think that this is a pretty good pick for them though. It's an interesting guy. Especially if you play in dynasty formats to kind of like keep an eye on, because Higbee probably only has one, maybe two more years left and if this guy does develop, he could be. A really good size, speed freak. He could be in the mold of like what Jimmy Graham was like what we see from George Kittle sometimes. You know, he could be very productive. So I think he's the most interesting one of this group. Other than that, I would say it's, you know, meat and potatoes kind of boring.

Jason: 1:36:30

Going to a team that definitely filled some needs on the defensive side. San Francisco, 49 ERs. First round. Mikel Williams, second round, Alfred Collins, third round. Nick Martin, Upton Stout, fourth round, CJ West Jordan Watkins is your first offensive player off the board for them in the fourth round, second pick, or 36th pick, but their second pick. Fifth round. Jordan James, Mark Marquez, Siegel, and then seventh round, Curtis Rourke. Connor, Colby and Junior Bergen. Wow. Interesting quarterback pick there in a seventh round.

pershin: 1:37:13

Yeah.

Jason: 1:37:14

I they like those seventh rounders.

pershin: 1:37:17

I, yeah, they had like four of them, right? Mm-hmm. I. I didn't love this draft just because I thought that they should go offensive line the first couple days and they just didn't touch it at all. First couple days? Nope. So

Jason: 1:37:35

I don't like that they didn't touch it till the last round

pershin: 1:37:39

and like it, it's one thing if you're in like a draft class where it's like, well, there's only a few we like, and they all got snatched up before we get had a chance. But this was just a pretty like deep. You know, yeah. We were going on and on about it. Yeah. So it's like they, they should have had guys that were on their board somewhere and they just, they didn't, they didn't do it. They picked other guys, so I, I don't like it from that perspective. Otherwise, it was fine, solid values, I guess, for a lot of their day three guys, but not what I would've done.

Jason: 1:38:17

I agree. Moving on to Seattle. First round pick for them was Gray Zabel outta North Dakota State. Second round pick was Nick Emma, war outta South Carolina. Elijah Aroyo, third round pick, which I thought was their best pick, was Jaylen Miller Quarterback. No guarantee Sam Donald's gonna be good. Why not take a qb? I like it. Fifth round. Riley Mills, Tori Horton, Robbie Otz, sixth round. Bryce Kadu, seventh round. Damien Martinez, Mason, Richmond, and Ricky White. The third

pershin: 1:39:00

I, yeah, I really like this one. Yeah, so did I. This was, I mean, both, both the first and the second round guys were pretty regularly being. Mocked in the, like the middle of the first round. So you gotta love that value. And then in the third round, they take some really interesting upside guys with Elijah Arroyo, you know, who, who knows how long fan's gonna be around. And this is a developmental guy, almost like Terence Ferguson, except for, instead of in the second round, this is the third round guy. You know, si size, speed freak was actually pretty productive on his final season. And then. They get Jaylen Millrose, who. You know, a lot of teams, it might have been willing to take a shot out at the end of the first or in the second round just because of the upside. He has to be something like a Lamar Jackson, Jayden, Daniel sort of type. He's not there yet as a pastor, but we have seen Jalen, her, Josh Allen, Lamar, Jackson, himself. We've seen. Lots of guys be able to turn that around and then just be a dual threat, that's a, a nightmare for defenses to have to deal with. I think it's got crazy upside. Sam Darnold is on a glorified one year contract where there's nothing guaranteed after the first year. So I, I love this pick for them. I thought they, they had a really interesting draft. I, yeah, I just liked almost every pick they had.

Jason: 1:40:32

Nice. Nice. And the last team,'cause I just realized we forgot to talk about them and I can't believe we did the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah. Unbelievable. Can't believe we skipped over'em. First round pick. Derek Herman, second or third round. Caleb Johnson. Fourth round. Jack Sawyer. Fifth round. Yaha. Ah, black. Sixth round. Everybody saw it coming or no one saw it coming but me. Will Howard seventh round, Carson Bruder and Dante Kent. I like the running back pick to, you know,'cause they just got rid of Najee Harris. I also like Jack Sawyer on the edge. I I think he's gonna be a good compliment to TJ Watt. You know, he made one of the biggest plays in college football last year. Returned an 83 yard strip sack for a tudy to secure the wind over Texas. And then obviously I love the six round pick ev I mean I had them taking Will Howard way earlier. The fact that he was still there that long around and they still got him, tells me that they're probably gonna sign Aaron Rogers and Kirk cousin or Kirk Cousins for this year. And then the keys are gonna be given to Will Howard next season. Yeah. What do you think about the fighting Mike Tomlins?

pershin: 1:41:59

Yeah. The, this was surprising in the way that it went down, but kind of like you said, could could just work out pretty well. I thought that this is actually where UR was gonna go. But in that first round pick, they decided to go defensive line. Which is also low key a need for them as well, so I didn't hate it. And then in the third round, Caleb Johnson falls to them. They need, like, as you said, they need a good thumper. Anyways this is, I. A really good landing spot for him and for them. He excels in this sort of zone running scheme that's, they're actually the team that ran it the most last season. So it's

Jason: 1:42:41

mm-hmm.

pershin: 1:42:42

Just a perfect fit for them. And and then Will Howard going at the, at the end of the draft, he's a guy that I thought maybe could have went third round, fourth round, something like that. He, he, he got passed over again and again. I, I don't know if he'll work out, but I, it's one of these guys that I just love his attitude. I love the way he plays and I'm rooting for him. I hope he works out. And as you said, I think their plan, at least tentatively, is to have Mason Rudolph be the backup of Kirk Cousins or Aaron Rogers. What whatever ends up. Happening there. But maybe Will Howard could just sort of register, develop into something. Again, I'm just rooting for'em. Who knows? I, you know but I thought that a lot of these picks worked out for them. Pretty good fits and so interesting that it was not at all what I thought was gonna happen for them, but yet probably pretty good draft for them.

Jason: 1:43:43

It's everything I thought that was gonna happen for them. Needless to say. Last thing about the draft, that's all the teams we got, but it was kind of interesting how every time like the Raiders, the Steelers, the Browns would come up, they'd the, like all rights, you had the Saints like. Is this the time should or goes? And then everyone's like, Nope. Yeah, I mean, Mel Kuer was crying. I mean, that guy was, dude.

pershin: 1:44:11

Oh man. He was crashing out. They were

Jason: 1:44:13

getting so annoyed by him, like everyone was,

pershin: 1:44:16

he was crashing out so hard. Dude. Like, get over it, bro. Like, yeah,

Jason: 1:44:21

he wouldn't get over it, but nonetheless, the draft is over. Next up training camp baby. We're almost there. We're almost back to NFL season. So with that being said, let's get on outta here. As always, you can hit us up on Threads, Instagram or Blue Sky at Pine Pony Podcast. And that's all we got. Adios,

pershin: 1:44:46

adios.