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Join us in this episode of the Pine Pony Podcast as we dive into the latest sports news. We kick things off by discussing the NBA's blockbuster hire of Michael Jordan as a special correspondent, followed by the wild speculations surrounding the NBA draft lottery. Switching gears, we dig into the Colorado Rockies' disastrous MLB start and the impact of Rob Manfred's Hall of Fame eligibility changes.  Plus, don't miss our take on Sam Darnold's career moves and the international games hitting Dublin, London, and beyond. It’s a jam-packed episode you won’t want to miss!

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Jason:

Welcome. Welcome to another edition of the Pine Pony podcast. It's me, the og, as always. You got the fantasy uncle. What's happening, Persian. Howdy,

Pershin:

howdy. Glad to be back another week, another chat about all the various sports ball.

Jason:

That's right. Another chat deed. We'll talk about the draft lottery, some of the NFL schedule.'cause the whole schedule's not released all but we do know, so we can still kind of talk about it. So much drama, so stupid. Anyway, with that being said, let's start the show. All right, so let's start off with the NBA, the big news. NBA hired NBC. BA on NBC hired Michael Jordan as a, I guess, a special correspondent. We don't really know what his role will be yet. Hopefully it'll benefit everybody and we all just get to listen to him talk about basketball and breakdown today's game. Not that I really watch it anymore, but still would be really cool and maybe I would. What are your thoughts on that, man? You have any, have any issues with yeah, mj?

Pershin:

I, I love it. I, I was interested when I heard about this it was a little bit of a disappointment to, to see that, like, we don't know exactly what his role is gonna be, but you know, you gotta assume that he's gonna be an analyst of some sort. And I think it's great. I think if there's anybody that I would look to as like, okay, I wonder, I wonder what is their opinion on X, y, or Z. I mean, he's the goat, he's the guy, you know, so certainly won't hurt anything to have his opinion, have his takes here and there, you know?

Jason:

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, even if he sucks. It's like it doesn't hurt Fox that Tom Brady sucks at being a commentator, because it still is like, oh, everybody's like, oh, it's Tom Brady, let's tune in because Tom Brady is the goat. So

Pershin:

yeah. And also like in Tom Brady's defense, I do feel like he actually improved, like.

Jason:

No, a

Pershin:

little bit. You

Jason:

stop it as it

Pershin:

went on. You stop it. Okay. He sucks. He sucks.

Jason:

He sucks. There we go. There we go.

Pershin:

Get a real football player. Get Brett Bar up in there.

Jason:

Oh wow. Even worse.

Pershin:

Get here Ron.

Jason:

Alright. So I don't know if you heard about this Paul Pierce supposedly. Air quotes walked 18 miles to his to work because he lost avett in a bathrobe. He was supposed to do it shoeless, and he had shoes on, so he failed on that part. Oh, you gotta redo it. He did. He did bring up like I guess he would post a video every so often and I'm like, yeah. You could just stop on the side of the road, out of the car and make that post, because homeboy kept saying he was sweating. And I was like, bro, I don't see a, a lick of sweat on f on that brow, bro. I don't see no sweat on F forehead. So and then the, the big. Conversation from the draft lottery yesterday was that it's rigged beyond rigged. Oh, beyond rigged. Okay. Is rigged like this is like, how can you tell the fans that it's not rigged when a 1.8% chance team who just traded away their star. Gets the first pick for Cooper Flag when you have the Hornets who haven't gotten a first pick since 1991. Damn. Meanwhile, caval LeBron goes to the Miami Cavaliers, get a first round pick that year. Oh, that didn't, one didn't work out. Let's give'em another one the next year. Like this is, so it is just, and then to make matters worse, the Spur has got the second pick. Oh, they're on the kind of an up and coming, like they've got, you know, WIBA le le let's just give, like, let's just give them another player. That way we make sure they're good. Oh, you know what? 76 ERs are having a little injury issues. You know, their star players mad. Let's give them a third pick the, you know, really soft. None of those teams were inside the top four with percentages to get a, any one of those picks. And yet somehow they all got before any of the 14% chance teams. And even then the Hornets were like the fourth one and they still got it. I mean, it's just, I, I understand that it's not rigged and they hire accounting people to do things. Yeah. But if you want me to believe that it's not rigg, I need to watch that whole process.

Pershin:

Yeah. Right from

Jason:

start to finish on tv, live with no delays. Yeah. Right. I don't want any five minute delays. Like I need it live and I need to see exactly what's happening, and I want somebody telling me the entire time what is happening.

Pershin:

Yeah. I,

Jason:

I don't care how long the process is,

Pershin:

I hate the idea that there's delays. It's like someone says, fuck, let'em say fuck, whatever. Like, right. The fact that it's like such a, it, it's like, what's the word I, not controversial.'cause I, I, that's not the right word, but it it, it's subject to so many conspiracy theories as it is that just do it live. No, no delay that you could potentially doctor in some way or whatever, yada, yada. Just, just have it. Be as transparent as humanly possible and people will enjoy it much more, I think.

Jason:

Absolutely.

Pershin:

I have no idea if there's any foul play or not. It would not surprise me if there was, just because it seems really unlikely the way that it shook out. Right. But the thing is, like, I, I have no idea. They may very well have just, that's just how what happened. It was just a coincidence that it was very unlikely what happened? You know, I, I don't know, but I just think it's so dumb to not make it a thousand percent transparent when you could, you could,

Jason:

you know, just, right, right. I mean, it's just really odd if you had a hundred balls and four teams have 14 each. Out of the hundred. Yeah. So that's what, that's, that's 56 balls. That's over half of the balls. And this other team has maybe two.

Pershin:

Right, right. A one, a one point something percent chance. And it's not just that they hit, it's just that like all three of the top teams were, were unlikely candidates. And it's like, man, this is really

Jason:

right, right. So. Yeah. It's, it is what it is. And then last thing on the NBA with Jason Tatum getting injured and likely out for next season with an Achilles injuries repair. Yeah. Is it time for the NBA to consider less games in the regular season, or are these players just a WFT solved?

Pershin:

I, I really don't think they're soft. I think that when you have the teams themselves wanting to sort of manage the workload of these players they can anymore, they went well. I, well, I'm talking about the way that this evolved and, and,

Jason:

it was. Yeah, I know. But if a player wants to be considered for any awards, they have to play a certain amount of games. So,

Pershin:

yeah. No, and I think that's fine. I, I don't even have a problem with that, but I know that when players first started doing this, it was not just the players that had a concern, it was also the teams wanting to make sure that they were fresh for the playoffs and managing their workload. And I think that the fact that you would. Want to do that at all kind of leads me to believe that you could probably get the best possible product with less games. Right? I don't hate it the way it is because it, it is what it is and everyone has to play the same amount of games. You know what I mean? It's not like there's a a disadvantage or an advantage for any one team, but I certainly wouldn't have a problem with them. Having less games and then everybody feeling like they got top effort and quality play for all of those games. You know,

Jason:

I blame LeBron. He started doing them first. Like, bro, quit making so many playoff games. Yeah. And then you wouldn't have to load manage at 75 years old. Yeah.

Pershin:

Quit beating the, the Golden State Warriors when you're the only good player left on the Cleveland fucking Cavaliers that one year. Yeah. When every like everybody got hurt, who was worth a damn on his team at all. And then he still just single handedly like won the, the series for the Cavaliers. Like, I mean that I, he's probably still tired just from that series.

Jason:

Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Rolling to, let's, let's set up the MLB real quick. I got one quick note for you. And it's unfortunately on the Colorado Rockies, oh.

Pershin:

I did not hear about this yet.

Jason:

What happened? Talk about tanking. The boys have the second worst start in the first 40 games in the history of baseball.

Pershin:

Oh, wow.

Jason:

Yeah. Seven in 33.

Pershin:

Wow.

Jason:

Yeah. Awful, awful.

Pershin:

I, I took a look at their record after like one month and I was like, damn, I, this ain't gonna be the year. But I didn't realize it, it really kept on this entire time. Yeah, man, that's rough.

Jason:

Well, they suck

Pershin:

man. Yeah. We need a, a win streak or something just so that we don't no,

Jason:

no, just we

Pershin:

don't want history. We don't want this kind of history record breaking though.

Jason:

Season is over. I maybe they were just giving everybody a spot and they were just like, we're gonna have the worst start, but the best comeback.

Pershin:

Oh, see, there's, yeah, there's

Jason:

the dramatic the dramatic comeback. That's right. So, and then another baseball news. Rob Manfred is now going to allow Pete Rose and shoeless Joe Jackson to be eligible for the Hall of Fame because they're dead. It's pretty much what he said. So they change, they're gonna change the, the ruling that when you die, if you're ineligible for the hall, you're now eligible at death. Your band stops at death. I just, I don't like it. Stupid. You had all this time to change it and you waited till Pete Rose died. You, you bummed, you waited till Pete Rose died. I believe that. Like they hated that guy for no reason. I,

Pershin:

I, I don't like it.'cause the thing is that the, the entire point was supposed to be that there's certain things that are just. Uncrossable lines, they're unacceptable or whatever. I, me personally, I think that if you are a really great player who's, who's memorable in that way, then you probably should be in the Hall of Fame, even if you are just an awful person. Otherwise, that's just my personal opinion. But the whole point was just that it was supposed to be that everyone who even considered such actions. Would know how unacceptable it is and that there's a huge price to pay if you're gonna take those gambles, like literally take those gambles, right? And so the fact that it's like, oh, well the punishment's not necessary because they're not here anymore. I disagree. Because the thing is that now people know, well, hey, maybe, maybe I won't get into the Hall of Fame. During my lifetime, but eventually I'll be in there anyways. And so my legacy kind of carries on. And so I think that in a way it does hinder. I. The, the sort of hard stance that the MLB wanted to have about certain issues. And so I think it's dumb. I think if you're going to let people in after they're dead, you might as well let them in while they're still alive. Because the whole, the whole point is that their legacy's carrying on through the, through the Hall of Fame anyways, you know, so. I agree, man. I, I agree. If the entire thing was just to be specifically punitive to specific players, then okay. I guess there's no point in punishing them now that they're dead. But the thing is like, is that really the point is to just be punitive to specific players? It should have never been the point.

Jason:

You

Pershin:

know

Jason:

what I mean? Well, I mean, I would say that that was the point because how many people are banned from the Hall of Fame in baseball?

Pershin:

Just like three or four, right?

Jason:

Not many. Right. I mean, but like even like you don't, it's not something that happens often.

Pershin:

Not at all. Yeah.

Jason:

So anyway, MLB, shame, shame, shame. But I mean, I guess at least they got in right. And it's like, because they're immediately gonna be voted in next, the next session.

Pershin:

Oh yeah, for sure.

Jason:

It's like they're a lock to be in the hall of fame and that's just like, okay, great. That was just dumb. Yeah.

Pershin:

And, and again, my my opinion is that it should be about the sport. If they had a really big impact on the game, on the field, as they say, then, then you should put'em in the Hall of Fame. You can even put some sort of thing about how the MLB does not you know, endorse or condone their, their behavior outside of the game or whatever. But, but. If, if they were really important to the game, they're a great player that they should be in. I don't, I don't think a, a ban is something that I would like as a, an MOB fan. And then also it, you know, when they have like members of the media that vote, these guys in this entire idea that like, oh, we'll we will kind of like. Punish this person by making them wait once or twice through the cycle or whatever. Also, stupid. If someone is a, a surefire hall of famer, just fucking put them in as soon as they come up the first time. Don't, don't take it upon yourself to send them a message or some dumb shit. Like with Terrell Owens, you know, they, they were like, oh, well, we're purposely gonna make him wait a while. Like, that's stupid. Just, just put him in.

Jason:

Absolutely. And then college football. The Akron zips are postseason band next year. So you're not gonna see the Akron zips no. Akron u postseason football for next season? Probably not for the foreseeable future, unless they bring that nine 15 academic threshold up above nine 30. Oh, wow. Yeah. They're not hitting the standards for Wow. Play football. In the postseason for the ncaa. So

Pershin:

very interesting. I thought that there was gonna be some sort of cheating scandal or something where it was like, oh, you got caught paying people to take tests for the players or some sort of like, you know, some of those C shenanigans, but they literally are like, oh, your, your players just aren't performing well enough academically. I think that's kind of, I think it's cool to see that there's still a focus on that. Oh no, dude. Even after NIL and everything, and it's such a professional thing at the college level now, it's still nice to know that there's a, there's a focus on actual education going on here.

Jason:

Yeah, yeah. That, that, which is surprising. Yeah, they're like the first team to do that in like forever. Like, I can't remember who the last team was that did not here it is. So last year they got a, a practice reduction because of it. So then they came back this year and hit'em again. So, and then the team before that was, the two teams prior to that got COVID waivers, so they were fine. But the Ida Idaho was the last team in like 2020 17. They were banned for like four seasons.

Pershin:

Damn.

Jason:

24, 20, like 2013 to 2017.

Pershin:

Damn.

Jason:

So, yeah. And then, cam rising quarterback from Utah, medically retiring, did not see that coming. He was like a husband hopeful at one point.

Pershin:

Yeah, I recognize the name. I, I recognize the name. He's been in the media before. The what is it that that happened to him? What, what is the, the injury?

Jason:

Oh, good question. It is hand injury.

Pershin:

Oh, there goes the night, Lex. Yeah.

Jason:

Yeah. So. That sucks for him.

Pershin:

Breaking up with Angela.

Jason:

Yeah. Yeah. And then last but not least, before we get to the NFL and Andre Agassi lost in the second round thriller of the United States Open Pickleball Championship. I. Oh wow. He is, yeah, he is making a comeback in his old age.

Pershin:

I like it. I was like, wait, are they, are they having some sort of like senior citizen tennis tournament or whatever?

Jason:

Yeah, they are. It's

Pershin:

called, it's

Jason:

called pickleball.

Pershin:

And then when you said pickleball, I was like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah. You don't have to be a young man to play that game. That's right.

Jason:

You barely have to move

Pershin:

that, yeah, that's pretty, that's

Jason:

what they say. But yeah, I see all these people out there on the courts being a bunch of try hards. Is it also a former pro that beat him? If he, if he you know, I didn't go into that in depth because I only saw that he actually won the first round and then I, I I it in one ear out the other after that.

Pershin:

Yeah. I'm actually trying to remember the guy who was. His, his rival for like several years in a row. They were

Jason:

Pete Amp.

Pershin:

That's right. That's right. It wouldn't it be so funny if Pete Samra was the one that beat him in the pickle box? That would be hilarious. Hilarious.

Jason:

I mean, this was his professional debut for pickleball.

Pershin:

Wow. Not half

Jason:

bad. Yeah, he, he partnered with Ann Lee Waters and they won their mixed doubles match. And then,

Pershin:

yeah. Well, if this was his debut, I think he's got a decent chance of winning one before.

Jason:

Before too long. Yeah. Maybe he'll get one before he dies.

Pershin:

Well, I'm wishing you luck, Andre.

Jason:

Yep. There we go. And then let's get to the NFLA little fun little talk Rams. Hold June mini camp in Maui.

Pershin:

Woo woo.

Jason:

That should be fun. And then the Packers did sign a quarterback, despite not drafting one, they found one Canadian Taylor.

Pershin:

Oh, wow. I've not even heard of this guy. Yeah,

Jason:

Taylor Elman. He's Canadian. Did they

Pershin:

get him from the Canadian Football League or.

Jason:

You know, I mean, he probably just kind of was out there.

Pershin:

Hey, I'm also out there Packers. If you wanna sign me to something,

Jason:

You know, I don't, you know, he's a practice squad guy. Practice squad guy. You know, we don't need to put too much attention till he gets on the 52 man roster.

Pershin:

Yeah.

Jason:

So. But I mean, just consistent with collecting quarterbacks and seeing what you can do with'em. So with that being said, let's get on to the NFL schedule. That was, that was, there was some release holds tonight. But before we get into that, but first, I just had a little, couple little graphics. I wanted to go over that, the strength of schedule. Who would you think has got the toughest schedule just. Guess the Chiefs? No, no. It's the Giants. The Giants. The Giants, the Bears. Wow. The Giants, the Bears, the Lions, omi and then the Eagles, Cowboys, Packers, Vikings Commanders. And the Broncos are above average strength like. They're not, they're not, you know, an easy schedule by any means. And then the easiest schedule is the San Francisco 49 ERs.

Pershin:

Wow.

Jason:

Why? Yeah. No excuses. Brock Purdy.

Pershin:

Yeah. I think that's, that's wild. That it's, it's the giants, like the Giants weren't even good last year. Like.

Jason:

Yeah, but they play, you know, they got the eagles twice and then the, the division they play is the west a FFC West.

Pershin:

Yeah, that's true. The team.'cause now the, the commanders are actually a competitive team. Commanders

Jason:

twice. They're good.

Pershin:

That makes all the difference in the world really.

Jason:

They play the Lions, the Packers.

Pershin:

Yeah,

Jason:

the Viking.

Pershin:

I kind of had forgotten about the commanders and that,

Jason:

that really? Yeah, dude, their worst opponents are Saints, Raiders, Patriots, bears, Bronca bras.

Pershin:

Yeah, because I mean, it used to always be, I don't know about always, but you know, past decade or so, it was always like, okay, well. The Giants and, and the Redskins slash football team, whatever they're called, is dragging, dragging that Dema, dragging that division down. Sometimes the Cowboys, sometimes the eagles are good teams, but either way you could kind of count on both of those teams being, but, but now that the commanders have changed their tune, all of a sudden it's like, woo. The Giant's got a tough road to hoe.

Jason:

Yeah, man. Well they got Jackson Dart, you know, so Yeah. What you gonna do Brother

Pershin:

Jackson Dart and they got famous Jamis.

Jason:

That's right. That's right. Let's see, you know, Bronco's 5 0 5, you know, middle, kind of above average, middle of the road, right. Panthers, they on the easy schedule train. I don't want to hear that. It, the Panthers could fight for that division

Pershin:

this year. S Tyler Schuck and or Spencer Rattler twice, so,

Jason:

oh yeah, I forgot about that. Derek Carr retiring this year. Yeah. And then immediately playing a round of golf. I'm telling you, he's gonna come back

Pershin:

next off season and

Jason:

Oh, a hundred percent. And

Pershin:

play for another team. He, he's just gonna, he's just gonna like, whatever he is just gonna take, take a vacay this season because he. He can't get along with the, the team that he signed with. So,

Jason:

and then so then I've got interesting note to just consider and remember this later on down the line, miles traveled, the chargers traveled, the, the, the most miles this year. 37,000 miles. The Bengals travel the least at 8,000 miles.

Pershin:

Ooh,

Jason:

wow. That's a big difference. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Like that's mind blowing. Yeah, like and then, and even, and I don't even think the Chargers and the Chargers were the one that, the Chargers don't

Pershin:

even play an overseas game. The crazy thing is the Chargers were the ones to make the playoffs and the Bengals did not.

Jason:

Well, that's this season coming, so We'll, you know the jury's, oh, I thought you met this

Pershin:

past. Okay, okay. Okay.

Jason:

So it'll interesting to see if that. A toll on injuries and things of that nature. I bet it does. Broncos, Broncos are 23,000 packers. We're on the lower end just under 13,000, which it makes sense. We're like, you know, you're middle of the. You know, kind of closer to the middle of this, of the country. Yeah. But yeah, I just thought that was interesting. And then last one I forgot about. So somebody did a draft for the NFL, but if it were the lottery, so if the NFL did the NBA draft lottery, here is the order for the top 11 teams. One through 11 hypothetical draft order. San Francisco, Carolina, Jacksonville, New York Giants, Tennessee Cleveland, new England, the Raiders, jets, saints, bears. Man, that that draft order would piss me off, dude. Yeah. I would be so heated, dude, the 49 ERs with the first pick, with all that talent on that roster, I'd be so mad

Pershin:

if, if, if that's the way it went down, you know exactly what the people would be saying. It's rigged. Hundred percent. Hundred

Jason:

percent, yeah. 49 ERs had their worst season in like the last 10 years. Oh, we gotta give'em, we, we, we gotta get'em some talent in there. Yeah. Otherwise, like, I don't really dislike it. I just hate the 49 like that. The 49 ERs would piss me off there. Panthers being number two would be clutch for them.

Pershin:

Yeah.

Jason:

But, oh, I thought that was cool. I thought that was interesting. I would not, that would not work in the NFL. Yeah. So NFL stay the way you are. All right, so the International games, week four, we got the first game in Dublin, Ireland, Vikings versus Steelers. Nine 30 September 28th.

Pershin:

Pretty

Jason:

cool. That's gonna be a decent game.

Pershin:

I, I wa I did not realize that they were gonna go to Ireland. I was like, that's pretty cool. There are a ton NFL game there, there's like a ton of crossover in Ireland. I mean, Ireland's not a huge place, but it's a really big, rugby plays, like they love rugby and a lot of rugby fans quite naturally end up being American football fans too. And so there, I think there's more crossover than people realize.

Jason:

Well, there's also Notre Dame plays there like two weeks prior.

Pershin:

Yeah,

Jason:

every year

Pershin:

big Catholic Place, Ireland, so

Jason:

yeah, a bunch of Catholics there. Yep. Who would've thought? And then week five Vikings set another first for the NFL, they get back to back international games. They play the Browns at nine 30, so they play international

Pershin:

games. Where's the second one then? Where's the, where's that at?

Jason:

London.

Pershin:

Okay. So those, those stay, they travel, stay in the same sort of area. Okay.

Jason:

And then weeks and then London, that was, so that was London's like kickoff game. So they got week four, week five, week six is in London with the Broncos and Jets on October 12th. Week seven is in also in London with Rams Jaguars on October 19th. Those. Oh man. I don't know how I feel. I don't know if I'm gonna, those games will be on, I don't know how much I'm gonna sit there and pay attention to either one of those games.

Pershin:

Yeah, we we're gonna tear up that Jets offensive line man. We're gonna have Justin Fields running for his leg. He, he will be benched after that game. And Ty Tyron Taylor will, will play the remainder of the season.'cause it, it's gonna go so bad for him.

Jason:

I guess it depends on who's on my Fantasy squad. Yeah, yeah. Right. And what the records are at the time of this game. Yeah. Right. Despite it being early on in the, in the season. And then week 10 we go to, we go to Germany Berlin with the Falcons in the Colts at on November 9th again. That game doesn't do anything for me right now. It might later. And then week 11, we're going to Madrid with the Commanders versus the Dolphins on November 16th. Did you think? What'd you think of those? Man? International last two. The Madrid should be fun.

Pershin:

Yeah. I, I, I really like the, the way that things are going for the commanders. They've added pieces on the offensive line and, and they brought in Devo. It's, I don't know how much faith I have in Devo these days, but hey, they're, they're trying to add pieces and, i, I can't see them necessarily taking too many steps backwards. And then the dolphins, you gotta think that McDaniels is gonna have a sort of bounce back for that offense. And so I, I could see this being kind of like a two high powered offenses. Commanders did do a pretty good job of drafting for defense, but. It still wouldn't surprise me if their defense was the weak link, you know? So we had, we, we could have like a shootout in that game. I could easily see that being a shootout sort of game.

Jason:

Well, it is week 11, so you know, two of'em might not be there by then. Never know, man. That's never know. Yeah. And then some of the domestic games, week one cowboys kick it off with the Eagles. September 4th, I believe, on Thursday night. It's like Sunday night football, but on Thursday night. I hate when they do that. It's so confusing.

Pershin:

It's stupid.

Jason:

Yeah. Which again, that, why is that the kickoff game? Yeah. I like, I mean I guess it's a rivalry game, but I think the Eagles are gonna wax that ass. Yeah, for sure. They're gonna come in hot, ready to go week 10. The Eagles play at Green Bay, Monday night game, November 10th. Excited for that revenge game for Green Bay Revenge Game from week one and Postseason.

Pershin:

Yep.

Jason:

And then week 17, the Broncos at the Chiefs. That's a Thursday night or Christmas, Christmas game. Oh, I love it. I looking forward to that one man. That should be the problem with that game. Is, it could be a lot of things on the line or it could be nothing on the line. Sure. You know? Yeah. I, but it could be, it could be for the division if the Broncos play. Well,

Pershin:

I saw that they had three games on Christmas and Yeah. I, I think like, I don't know how I feel about that. Like me personally. That works great for me.'cause a lot of times I'm not flying to go be with my family. So I, I've got all the time to just watch football all day if they're gonna have football all day. But I feel like not, not just for the players involved, but also for a lot of the fans are like, man, I'm actually busy doing family shit and I don't know that it's actually a great day to have. You know, to, for I'm sure the, the Players Association doesn't like it. And then on top of that, a lot of the fans feel like, man, I'm too busy doing shit to even watch these games. I, I don't know that it's actually the best idea. I mean, me personally, it'll work out great.'cause I'll spend the whole day watching football. But I, I, I'm, I'm honestly surprised that they're packing three games in.

Jason:

Well, I mean, they'll put'em late. Like they won't be like. You know, I don't, I don't foresee it. I guess it will be, it could be like Thanksgiving when they have that noon game. Yeah. I, but I, I could see them doing a, like a two, four o'clock games or. You know, two prime time at the same time. Or they start that one at eight 15, they start one at like 10.

Pershin:

Yeah, it could be, I, there was a couple times last season where they had like two Monday night football games on like at the same time.

Jason:

Yeah. They do that like every year.

Pershin:

So I, they might, they might be doing something like that.

Jason:

I don't know. I agree though. I mean, I'll probably have it on at at night once, you know, once everything's calmed down. But still, like, we'll see, we'll see what happens. And then some other interesting games that we know will happen. We just won't know when until they come out with the schedule tomorrow, which this will already be done. So we got the Eagles at the Chiefs you know, little, little revenge game for the Super Bowl rematch. Vikings at Seattle, Sam darn, you know, what's he, what's, what's gonna happen with that game? Pats packers at Pittsburgh could be Aaron Rogers versus Green Bay again, and then Packers at the Broncos. Yeah, that's always, those are usually always pretty good games.

Pershin:

Yeah.

Jason:

I can see the Packers having a lot of prime time games this year. Their opponents is, I mean, away. They've got, you know, Bronco, Steelers, Browns, giants, cowboys, cardinals, and then you know, the other three. But at home they've got the Eagles, commanders, Ravens, Bengals, Panthers, and then the of big three. So yeah, I could see at least four or five of those home games being prime timers.

Pershin:

Yep. And the basically the pine Pony Podcast Bowl Broncos versus Packers always fun because you and I get to talk trash to each other, but then also we get to come on the next week and give our takes on what happened or whatever.

Jason:

Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, that's all the schedule news we got until tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Just,

Pershin:

yep. I,

Jason:

anything else you wanna talk about?

Pershin:

Well, you kind of brought up something that's a little bit unrelated, but I wonder what you think about the Sam Darnell situation. I, I keep hearing people, analysts, I don't know, radio people and stuff, kind of hinting at like, oh, I think Sam Donald is not the real deal. I think he was just more like a. Propped up by KOC and the like QB friendly offense or whatever. And I was thinking about like some of the quarterbacks that have left Minnesota. In the past that have had like one year wonder situations. And it is that kind of interesting that there was like the case keen and before him, there was a couple guys throughout history who have come out of nowhere, had a good season in Minnesota and even way before KOC, but just had a good season in Minnesota and then never again. And I, I was like, I wonder if Sam darn is gonna be part of that. Bermuda Triangle or whatever. What do you, what do you think of Sandra Arnold like? Do you think he really is legit and he he's pretty good now, or you expect him to be a little bit lackluster outside of Minnesota?

Jason:

I, number one, the season they had was just, it was incredible. It was unexpected, so it's hard for me to believe. All of a sudden, Sam Arnold just came to Minnesota, had that season, and just like he learned how to play the NFL game and all of a sudden,

Pershin:

yeah.

Jason:

So I think there was more a product of his environment. I mean, he had a significantly better team than any of the other teams that he has been on. And Will except for San Francisco, right? Yeah. And he has not performed anywhere else other than in Minnesota. Yeah. So, I mean, until he comes into Seattle and proves me wrong, he is a dud to me. I thought that was a terrible trade.

Pershin:

Yeah.

Jason:

And I sat, I sat on this pod that if I were Sam darn, I would stay in Minnesota. Yep. Because I know I was good there.

Pershin:

Yep, I remember that and I agreed with you. I was like, yeah, that's, I mean, you're, I, I think you're more likely to play another season, even if it's for less money in Minnesota and then, then really cash out the following off season. Now. Now as it stands, he did get a pretty decent paycheck from the Seahawks, so I don't, I don't blame him for signing with the Seahawks or anything like that, but it was. Really shocking also, just how good his season was when he couldn't stay on the field in Carolina and then he couldn't get on the field at all. Right In San Francisco, even when they drafted the very last guy in the draft, Mr. Irrelevant, you know, you would've thought that they would at least give him a chance. But they were like, no, you're clearly not as good. You're just sitting the bench the whole time. And so for him to come out of nowhere and, and have a very good season was it was pretty shocking that,

Jason:

I mean, maybe his move to Seattle was just to get the bag.'cause he knows. Like it's right. It's not good anywhere else. So he is like, yeah, let me go collect all of this as much money as I can somewhere else.

Pershin:

Yeah. Let me just go ahead and cash in right now, whatever I can and

Jason:

yeah. While I'm hot. Right. Which, if that's the case, then that was, that was super smart. I'll give him props for that.

Pershin:

Right, right.

Jason:

But at any rate. All right, well, that's all the scoops we got for you. As always, hit us up on threads, Instagram or Blue Sky at Pine Pony Podcast, and we're out. Adios a.

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