Complete astral projection system - what makes it work

Hey everyone — welcome back to the podcast.

It’s really good to be back. I took a bit of a hiatus from recording, but I never stepped away from the practice itself. If anything, I went deeper into it.

And during that time, I’ve been working on something… something I think is really going to help a lot of you.

And now it’s finally ready.

Because if there’s one thing I’ve seen over the years, it’s this:

Most people aren’t far off.

They’re usually very close… they’re just missing a few key pieces that make everything click.

So in this episode we're going to explore exactly how we can make it click for you.

Now, as you may know, I’ve been practicing astral projection and lucid dreaming for over 25 years now, and over this time I’ve also worked with a lot of people trying to have their own experiences.

A few years ago, I published a book on astral projection and lucid dreaming that ended up being really well received. I got a lot of great feedback from people, and also a lot of messages asking for help with the actual process—how to induce the state, what techniques to use, how to work through some of the common problems that come up, and how to make the experience more consistent.

In that first book, I did share a lot of what I personally do, but it was mostly through personal experiences and written more in a journal-style format—more storytelling than direct instruction. And I could tell a lot of people wanted a more practical, instructional approach.

I also noticed one thing that really stood out about this podcast was how much more engagement the guided meditation episode and technique-focused episodes had compared to everything else.

That made it pretty clear what people are really looking for—not just theory or experiences, but actual guidance on how to enter these states. Most people aren’t lacking information… they’re missing practical execution. Knowing exactly what to do in the moment, and how to consistently get into the right state.

During my time away, I’ve been focused on developing more structured approaches and tools to help people achieve these incredible states of higher consciousness—things that help people actually induce the experience and make it more consistent.

I focused on creating a full instructional guide—no theory, no stories—just clear, step-by-step methods. The guidebook contains the most effective techniques I’ve used over the past 26 years of practice, along with what I’ve seen work consistently when helping others. It contains a clear breakdown of what actually works, covering the entire process from preparation, to entering the state, to what to do during the experience once you’re fully out of body, and even what to do after the experience is over.

Now, one very important thing I’ve learned over the years is that there isn’t just one method that works for everyone.

Different people respond to different approaches. Some people naturally do better with structured, gradual techniques… others respond better to direct, immediate methods… some find it difficult to consciously project, but have more of a natural ability with lucid dreaming, and find more success with lucid dream-initiated methods.

So instead of focusing on a single path, I broke it down into the main core methods — each one taking a different approach to reaching the same state.

The idea is simple — no matter how your mind naturally works, there’s a method that fits you.

And once you understand how these different approaches work, you can start to recognize which one clicks the fastest for you… and build from there.

From my experience, what matters most usually comes down to a few key things:

Getting into the right state quickly.

Maintaining awareness as the body falls asleep.

And most importantly—timing.

Timing matters more than most people think.

Now, you can induce these states before sleep, during naps or meditation, or after waking up late at night or in the early morning.

I’ve personally had success with all of them.

But in my experience, the early morning is consistently the most reliable and easiest window to work with. You’re already coming out of deeper sleep cycles, your body is still relaxed, and it’s much easier to maintain awareness without fully waking up.

That’s why most of what I’ve developed and refined over time is focused around that window—waking up and using that moment effectively.

And once you start to figure out which method works best for you, the next challenge is actually executing it consistently.

Because knowing the method is one thing, but getting into the right state at the right time and staying aware through that process is where most people struggle.

And that’s really what led me into the next part of this.

Over time, I started developing tools to support the process itself.

At first, these were just things I built for my own practice—ways to make the timing easier, to get into the right state faster, and to stay mentally aligned with the intention the moment I woke up.

But as I refined them, I realized they weren’t just helpful for me personally, but they were solving the exact problems most people run into.

So I started adapting and building them out in a way that could be used alongside all of the methods in the guidebook.

Now, there are a lot of different audio tracks and tools out there already.

And over time, I tried a lot of what’s already out there, but I kept running into the same issue—nothing quite combined the specific elements that made the biggest difference in practice.

For example, with early morning attempts—especially with the sweet spot method—the goal is very specific.

You wake up, and in that exact moment, you don’t move. You immediately remember your intention… and you go straight into the process—whether that’s projection threshold techniques or direct separation techniques.

Now, timing matters here. Ideally, you’re waking up during a REM cycle, when your body is still deeply relaxed and your mind is close to that state.

And while there are alarm systems out there… I couldn’t find anything that actually supported the full process.

What made the biggest difference for me was combining two things:

First, state conditioning—having audio already guiding you into the right state.

And second, immediate intention recall—so the moment you wake up, you’re not thinking, you’re not trying to remember what to do… the intention is triggered instantly.

So instead of just waking up to a tone, it becomes a cue.

You hear the alarm… and right after it, a direct prompt—something like:

“Don’t move. Leave your body now.”

That moment is everything.

Because if you miss it—even by a few seconds—you fully wake up, you move, and the opportunity is gone.

The other piece that mattered was integration.

A lot of people use things like binaural beats to help get into the state—but if your audio and your alarm are separate, you run into problems. You might not hear the alarm, or it disrupts the whole process.

So I wanted everything working together in a single system—so the conditioning, the timing, and the cue are all aligned.

And that combination… is what makes the process much more reliable.

Now, moving to another audio tool, the same thing applies to longer sleep or meditation tracks.

There are a lot of ambient soundscapes out there… a lot of brainwave-based audio… binaural beats… tracks designed to relax you or take you deeper.

But very few of them actually help you stay aware as you go deeper.

And that’s the key.

Because the challenge isn’t just getting deep—it’s maintaining that thread of awareness as the body falls asleep.

So what I found made a big difference was adding intermittent conditioning cues throughout the entire process.

Instead of just passive audio… it becomes something active.

You’ve got the ambient soundscape, the brainwave entrainment helping guide your state… but layered into that, at intervals, are subtle vocal cues reinforcing the exact state you’re trying to maintain.

Things like:

“My mind remains aware as my body falls asleep.”

And what that does is it keeps bringing your awareness back online.

Because what usually happens—especially during meditation or when you’re lying down—is you start to drift… and at a certain point, you just lose awareness completely.

But those cues interrupt that pattern.

They gently pull you back… they remind you of the intention… and they keep you balanced right on that edge—mind awake, body asleep.

It also works in a different way when you’re using it overnight.

Because now you’re not just using it during a session—you’re conditioning the mind continuously.

Before sleep… during sleep… and even as you wake up.

So when you naturally wake up in the middle of the night, or early in the morning, you’re not starting from zero.

The intention is already there.

You hear the audio… you hear the cue… and there’s an immediate recognition:

this is the moment.

And that’s incredibly powerful—especially if you prefer natural awakenings instead of alarms.

Because now, every time you wake up, you’re being guided back into the exact state and intention you need… without having to think your way into it.

And out of everything I’ve used, this is probably the one I come back to the most.

Because it doesn’t rely on perfect timing—it builds the state, and reinforces it, continuously.

If you want, I can do a second pass specifically optimized for voice pacing (pauses, emphasis timing, and breath spacing) without changing wording either—that can make ElevenLabs sound even more natural.

Hey everyone — welcome back to the podcast.
It’s really good to be back. I took a bit of a hiatus from recording, but I never stepped away from the practice itself. If anything, I went deeper into it.
And during that time, I’ve been working on something… something I think is really going to help a lot of you.
And now it’s finally ready.
Because if there’s one thing I’ve seen over the years, it’s this:
Most people aren’t far off.
They’re usually very close… they’re just missing a few key pieces that make everything click.
So in this episode we're going to explore exactly how we can make it click for you.
Now as you may know, I’ve been practicing astral projection and lucid dreaming for over 25 years now, and over this time I’ve also worked with a lot of people trying to have their own experiences.
A few years ago I published a book on astral projection and lucid dreaming that ended up being really well received. I got a lot of great feedback from people, and also a lot of messages asking for help with the actual process—how to induce the state, what techniques to use, how to work through some of the common problems that come up, and how to make the experience more consistent.
In that first book, I did share a lot of what I personally do, but it was mostly through personal experiences and written more in a journal-style format—more storytelling than direct instruction. And I could tell a lot of people wanted a more practical, instructional approach.
I also noticed one thing that really stood out about this podcast was how much more engagement the guided meditation episode and technique focused episodes had compared to everything else.
That made it pretty clear what people are really looking for—not just theory or experiences, but actual guidance on how to enter these states. Most people aren’t lacking information… they’re missing practical execution. Knowing exactly what to do in the moment, and how to consistently get into the right state.
During my time away, I’ve been focused on developing more structured approaches and tools to help people achieve these incredible states of higher consciousness—things that help people actually induce the experience and make it more consistent.
I focused on creating a full instructional guide—no theory, no stories—just clear, step-by-step methods. The guidebook contains the most effective techniques I’ve used over the past 26 years of practice, along with what I’ve seen work consistently when helping others. It contains a clear breakdown of what actually works, covering the entire process from preparation, to entering the state, to what to do during the experience once you’re fully out of body, and even what to do after the experience is over.
Now, one very important thing I’ve learned over the years is that there isn’t just one method that works for everyone.
Different people respond to different approaches. Some people naturally do better with structured, gradual techniques… others respond better to direct, immediate methods… some find it difficult to consciously project, but have more of a natural ability with lucid dreaming, and find more success with lucid dream-initiated methods.
So instead of focusing on a single path, I broke it down into the main core methods — each one taking a different approach to reaching the same state.
The idea is simple — no matter how your mind naturally works, there’s a method that fits you.
And once you understand how these different approaches work, you can start to recognize which one clicks the fastest for you… and build from there.
From my experience, What matters most usually comes down to a few key things:
Getting into the right state quickly.
Maintaining awareness as the body falls asleep.
And most importantly—timing.
Timing matters more than most people think.
Now, You can induce these states before sleep, during naps or meditation, or after waking up late at night or in the early morning.
I’ve personally had success with all of them.
But in my experience, the early morning is consistently the most reliable and easiest window to work with. You’re already coming out of deeper sleep cycles, your body is still relaxed, and it’s much easier to maintain awareness without fully waking up.
That’s why most of what I’ve developed and refined over time is focused around that window—waking up and using that moment effectively.
And once you start to figure out which method works best for you, the next challenge is actually executing it consistently.
Because knowing the method is one thing, but getting into the right state at the right time and staying aware through that process is where most people struggle.
And that’s really what led me into the next part of this.
Over time, I started developing tools to support the process itself.
At first, these were just things I built for my own practice—ways to make the timing easier, to get into the right state faster, and to stay mentally aligned with the intention the moment I woke up.
But as I refined them, I realized they weren’t just helpful for me personally, but they were solving the exact problems most people run into.
So I started adapting and building them out in a way that could be used alongside all of the methods in the guidebook.
Now, there are a lot of different audio tracks and tools out there already.
And Over time, I tried a lot of what’s already out there, but I kept running into the same issue—nothing quite combined the specific elements that made the biggest difference in practice.
For example, with early morning attempts—especially with the sweet spot method—the goal is very specific.
You wake up, and in that exact moment, you don’t move. You immediately remember your intention… and you go straight into the process—whether that’s projection threshold techniques or direct separation techniques.
Now, timing matters here. Ideally, you’re waking up during a REM cycle, when your body is still deeply relaxed and your mind is close to that state.
And while there are alarm systems out there… I couldn’t find anything that actually supported the full process.
What made the biggest difference for me was combining two things:
First, state conditioning—having audio already guiding you into the right state.
And second, immediate intention recall—so the moment you wake up, you’re not thinking, you’re not trying to remember what to do… the intention is triggered instantly.
So instead of just waking up to a tone, it becomes a cue.
You hear the alarm… and right after it, a direct prompt—something like:
“Don’t move. Leave your body now.”
That moment is everything.
Because if you miss it—even by a few seconds—you fully wake up, you move, and the opportunity is gone.
The other piece that mattered was integration.
A lot of people use things like binaural beats to help get into the state—but if your audio and your alarm are separate, you run into problems. You might not hear the alarm, or it disrupts the whole process.
So I wanted everything working together in a single system—so the conditioning, the timing, and the cue are all aligned.
And that combination… is what makes the process much more reliable.
Now moving to another audio tool, the same thing applies to longer sleep or meditation tracks.
There are a lot of ambient soundscapes out there… a lot of brainwave-based audio… binaural beats… tracks designed to relax you or take you deeper.
But very few of them actually help you stay aware as you go deeper.
And that’s the key.
Because the challenge isn’t just getting deep—it’s maintaining that thread of awareness as the body falls asleep.
So what I found made a big difference was adding intermittent conditioning cues throughout the entire process.
Instead of just passive audio… it becomes something active.
You’ve got the ambient soundscape, the brainwave entrainment helping guide your state… but layered into that, at intervals, are subtle vocal cues reinforcing the exact state you’re trying to maintain.
Things like:
“My mind remains aware as my body falls asleep.”
And what that does is it keeps bringing your awareness back online.
Because what usually happens—especially during meditation or when you’re lying down—is you start to drift… and at a certain point, you just lose awareness completely.
But those cues interrupt that pattern.
They gently pull you back… they remind you of the intention… and they keep you balanced right on that edge—mind awake, body asleep.
It also works in a different way when you’re using it overnight.
Because now you’re not just using it during a session—you’re conditioning the mind continuously.
Before sleep… during sleep… and even as you wake up.
So when you naturally wake up in the middle of the night, or early in the morning, you’re not starting from zero.
The intention is already there.
You hear the audio… you hear the cue… and there’s an immediate recognition:
this is the moment.
And that’s incredibly powerful—especially if you prefer natural awakenings instead of alarms.
Because now, every time you wake up, you’re being guided back into the exact state and intention you need… without having to think your way into it.
And out of everything I’ve used, this is probably the one I come back to the most.
Because it doesn’t rely on perfect timing—it builds the state, and reinforces it, continuously.
And the same thing applies to guided processes.
Most of what I came across over the years didn’t actually follow the full sequence that I found to be the most effective in practice.
They might focus on relaxation… or visualization… or just getting you into a calm state… but they don’t take you through the entire progression needed to reach that threshold consistently.
So I built these around the exact sequence that I’ve found works best.
Starting with physical relaxation… then moving into energy work… then focused intention and third-eye awareness to really program the subconscious mind for what you’re about to do.
And from there, the paths split slightly depending on the goal.
For astral projection, you move into projection and threshold techniques… and then into separation methods.
For lucid dreaming, it shifts into passive observation or active visualization… allowing the dream state to form… until you can consciously step into it.
But one of the most important differences is how these are structured.
A lot of guided meditations try to take you all the way there—they try to guide you directly into an out-of-body experience or into a lucid dream.
And the problem with that is… it doesn’t account for timing.
Everyone reaches that state at a slightly different pace.
So instead of forcing a fixed endpoint, these guide you up to the threshold.
They walk you through the entire process… get you into the exact state you need… and then give you the space to continue in your own timing.
Because that final step—crossing the threshold—that’s something you have to meet at the right moment.
And when you do it that way, it becomes much more natural… and much more effective.
These also include the same kind of subtle awareness cues throughout… just enough to keep your mind engaged without pulling you out of the state.
So you’re not just relaxing—you’re actively progressing toward the experience.
And while I personally tend to do this without guidance now… these are incredibly useful, especially when you’re learning the process or trying to build consistency.
Because they don’t just guide you—they teach you how to move through the entire sequence… so eventually, you can do it on your own.
And when you look at all of this together, each of these tools is designed to support a specific part of the process… and a specific method.
In the guidebook, the core method I emphasize is what I call the sweet spot method—those early morning attempts where you wake up and act immediately.
That’s where the REM-based system fits in best.
It’s designed to wake you up at the right time… and more importantly, to trigger that immediate intention—so you don’t lose the moment.
Now, if you prefer a more natural approach—waking up without a fixed alarm—that’s where the long-form conditioning audio becomes extremely powerful.
Because instead of relying on timing, it conditions the state continuously.
So whenever you wake up… the intention is already there, and you can move straight into the attempt.
Then you have the guided processes, which align more with the other two core approaches.
The astral projection guided process follows the full sequence of what I teach as an advanced version of wake-back-to-bed—taking you step by step into the ideal state before allowing you to complete the final stage in your own timing.
And the lucid dreaming guided process is built around entering a wake-induced lucid dream—and from there, the methods in the guidebook show you how to transition from that dream state into a full out-of-body experience.
And that transition itself… isn’t something that can be guided in real time.
Because no one knows exactly when you’re going to reach that state.
So instead, you prepare by learning the method… you go in with a clear plan… and when you reach that point, you execute it.
And across all of these methods, the conditioning audio can be used at any point.
Because at the end of the day, everything comes back to the same core challenge:
Maintaining awareness… staying aligned with the intention… and reaching that state without drifting off or fully waking up.
So at this point, the way I’d look at it is this:
If you’re someone who’s been trying to have these experiences… and you feel like you’re close, but something just isn’t clicking…
Or maybe you’ve had a few experiences, but you can’t seem to make them consistent…
That’s exactly who this was built for.
This gives you a clear path.
You don’t have to guess what to do anymore… you don’t have to piece things together from different sources…
You can follow a structured approach, find the method that works best for you, and then actually build consistency with it.
And you don’t need to use everything all at once, either.
You can start with just one method… one approach… and build from there.
And if you’re interested in going deeper with this…
I’ve put everything into a structured format.
The full guidebook breaks down all of the methods step by step… and the audio tools are designed to support each part of the process.
You can find everything in the description.