The UnlearnT Podcast
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The UnlearnT Podcast
The UnLearnT Podcast LIVE: Enduring Leadership
We go live to name the weight of leading through hard seasons and offer practical ways to endure with hope, clarity, and integrity. We unpack how to recover from mistakes faster, re-categorize relationships, and reinvest in the vision without burning out.
• defining enduring leadership and long faith
• guarding inputs, language and circles
• year‑end discouragement and resetting hope
• crew checks and relationship categories
• expectations based on evidence not desire
• mistakes, restitution and shorter recovery
• weights to lay aside versus sins to repent
• hard truths leaders must accept
• reinvesting, pivoting and finding the tipping point
• leading people versus managing projects
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What's up, everybody? Welcome once again to the Unlert Podcast Live Edition. I'm Ruth Abigail, aka R A.
SPEAKER_01:What's up, friends? It's your girl, Jaquita. We are live and in Living Color.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we are. Yeah, we are. We are the podcast that is going to help you gain the courage to change your mind so that you can experience more freedom. And welcome to the second live event that we have ever had. We love to be here.
SPEAKER_01:I am super excited because today we are talking about a topic that I think is so relevant. Um, we're talking about enduring leadership. And when you think about the times and the seasons, when you think about what's going on in the streets, we ain't got to name it. Okay. Y'all been all right. All right. Y'all see it, right? You know, just persistence, tenacity, and continuing to have envision have visions and dreams in times where it seems like things are going darker or things are not going in ways that we may have imagined that they would have gone. It's hard to keep dreaming. It's hard to keep to keep leading. And so we wanted to come to you guys today to talk about how do we persist through times where it's really hard to do so.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, really, really hard. And like it's hard just in society, but also I just feel like these this time, welcome guys, if you're just joining, we we we we are we're here. Welcome. If you could let us know that you're here, drop drop your uh name or something in the chat so we can say hi. Hello in the chat, please. Um so I think just in general, this time of year, just about every year is tough because you're coming up to the end of the year. And Quido, you said something uh actually we prayed before this. You said something in the prayer of like, you know, if people are wondering uh or or maybe feel a little discouraged about how they're ending the year.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I think some I think we get to this year, and no matter how the year went, I feel like most most people, most of us get to the end of the year and be like, man, there's something I didn't do, there's something I didn't accomplish, and we kind of hang on that, you know what I mean? And so we want to just kind of name that first of all as a reality and then also kind of help us to push through it. So like it don't have to feel like that, and I have to feel like that. Um, we can uh we can move forward and end the year well and start the year strong, even if you feel like it hadn't been exactly what you wanted it to be.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, for sure.
SPEAKER_00:Hey Sebastian, hi Miss Tracy.
SPEAKER_01:Sorry, I could I'm looking at all of our hellos and wanted to make sure we acknowledge our friends. If you are just joining us and you're coming in, make sure you say hello. We want to engage with you guys on tonight. So good to see so good to see my friends. Um, you know, one thing that has really gotten me, um, you know, when I think about leadership and being in roles and places where you have impact and influence, and you know, I feel like I've gone from a place of feeling like it's my job to lead people into like future endeavors and opening doors and figuring out how great the future can be. Now I feel like we I've gone into a place of protection and sheltering and and uh it it makes you start building fences instead of gates, right? Where's I started building walls instead of doors, and so I think that it's really it's really been a season where I've had to restructure my hope, right? Because a lot of times when we think about hope, hope is a belief in a future. It is a belief in what is to come, not in thinking about what is now, but what can come, what can be. And it's the possibilities of things and the hope for things, you know. Bible says that faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not yet seen, right? Hope is it's not seen, it doesn't feel possible, it doesn't feel like you know you're really sitting in it, but I believe even when it doesn't look like I can have what I'm seeing in my mind. And so I've had to really re-ignite hope in this season, right? And I've had to be really intentional about how I do that. Um, one of the ways that I've had to be intentional is I've had to watch my conversation. Yeah, right. Because, and I've I've had to watch both what comes in and what's going out. Yeah. Right. If you are constantly ingesting things that are really stressing you out, yeah, man. That really make you feel like, man, we're in hard times. Life sucks. The state of the world sucks. You know, the state of my job sucks. If you're constantly ingesting that, you cannot hope to build something that will be able to fight against that. Absolutely. So you have to watch both what you're ingesting and then you have to watch what you're speaking. Because what you ingest, you then make a reality in your life through your speaking. Yeah. And so I have to, we have to be intentional in this season, not only with what we're seeing, what we're ingesting, what we're allowing through our ear gates and our eye gates, but also what are you letting out of your mouth? And who you letting it out to who are you letting out to?
SPEAKER_00:Talk about it. Because you we don't need to be talking to everybody about everything. Talk about it. You know what I'm saying? Because you're what you the response you get from other people is also going to impact how you hope. Because if if you're talking to people who have a low degree of hope, even if you have somewhat of a higher one, they can easily lower it. Right. And so you want to make sure that you're not, you know, what what you're talking about, what's going in, but who are you talking to and who are you allowing to respond back to what you're saying?
SPEAKER_01:I think you have to see every conversation that you have in this season. It is everybody is coming with a load. People are heavy. Yeah. People are heavy. People are heavy because of what's happening in the world. People are heavy because of what's happening in the world is definitely impacting what's happening in their life. And then when you think about people who are in leadership positions, and when we say leadership positions, I don't just mean titles, right? If you're a mother, a father, an uncle, an auntie, a sister, a brother, uh, a dad, a whatever it is, you have things and people and responsibilities that you are carrying. Yeah. Right. And if I'm taking what I'm carrying to somebody else, right, and I'm trying to maintain my hope about what I'm carrying, you have to be cognizant of if you're in relationships with people who are unloading on you and you don't have any return to give anything back to them. So now you're leaving these conversations heavier than what you let than what you came in with. Because now I'm trying to hope for my circumstance, but now I'm having to balance everything that you released onto me as well. And so when you're talking to people and you're engaging with people who are not actively pursuing hope, that's right. You know, the Bible says that you have to pursue peace, right? You have to pursue knowing that all will be well. You have to pursue believing that it's going to be okay. You have to pursue knowing that the things, the visions, the dreams, the aspirations, the ambitions, that those things can still come alive in your life. You have to pursue that. And when you are walking with people who are not pursuing the same thing you are, you will start pulling at each other because you're going in different directions. And so I just think now is such a pivotal time to check your circle. Right? Check it. Check it. Please check it. Check your crew. Please check it. Please check it. So before we get to Thanksgiving, all right. Challenge time, before we get to Thanksgiving, you need to do a crew check. And you need to say, oh, okay. Is this a push-pull relationship? Or is this a balancing relationship where we're always making sure the scales are even? Like, oh, I gave, I I I took too much over here. Let me let me let me balance it, right? You know, Ruth and I talk all the time, and there will be moments where it's a heavy day for me, and I'm just like, Ruth, heavy day for me, right? Um I'm going in. I it's it's a me day today, right? But when she comes with her me day, I don't sit there and be like, oh, but you know, I just really want to talk about me. No, because the scales in any relationship have to be balanced.
SPEAKER_00:Do a crew check, friends. Do a crew check. You know, let's be honest, y'all know who those people are. Y'all know who those people are in your life. Who when you talk, when you call them about you, they somehow always pivoted back to them. Y'all know, y'all know who it is. So don't be afraid. And I think one of the things that, you know, one of the things that Queen and I have have talked about, and I think as you get more settled in who you are, it's really not an age thing, it's more of just a mental stage thing. Like you begin to realize, you begin to put people in the right categories. So, so everybody who you talk to and hang out with isn't a friend. And I think, but it doesn't mean you can't connect with them, it can't be around them. Like, just don't put them in the friend category because a friend, I mean, for real, like you can't, you may not be a friend, but like it could be a solid connection, it could be a colleague, it could be an acquaintance, um, it could just be a casual, I'm cool with this person, but but but friend has some weight to it. And if you as a if that person can't hold weight with you, they're not a friend. And if they're not willing, if they're not willing to hold your weight the way you hold theirs, they're not a friend. So sometimes you just need to recategorize people and then meet them in the place that they actually are in your life, as opposed to expecting something that you consistently don't get.
SPEAKER_01:Man, let me tell you something because when we're talking about enduring leadership and when we're talking about this idea of maintaining hope, you have to talk about expectations. Yeah, you have to talk about how we have built our expectations around people, around uh success, expectations around fulfilling purpose, expectations around who's gonna show up, who's gonna be there, who's gonna, and we are building our expectations on false premises. Yeah, you know these people have been the same people the entire, you know what I'm saying? But you keep building expectations on on the sand. Yeah, you're building expectations on people who prove to you time after time after time again that when the rain comes, when the flood comes, they're gonna wash away. We're still building expectations that these people are gonna show up for us like I've envisioned in my mind that they would. We're still building expectations that things are gonna work out like I envisioned in my mind they would, and you leave no space for God to creatively bring something new in your life so that He can give you what you actually need because you keep trying to make what you already have your answer.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:What you've been through, where you've been, and who you've had accompanying you up to this point is not the solution for where God is taking you. That's not the answer. Yeah. I'm not, and and I don't I don't want to be responsible. Don't don't be going around breaking up with people, telling people your friendships is over, and being like, well, Jaquita and Ruth Abigail was on the phone.
SPEAKER_00:Hold on, hold on. Yeah. Don't, don't, no, no, listen, listen, listen.
SPEAKER_01:And I and and there are great people in my life that I've had to learn where the weight shift. I've had to learn who can handle what. Right. I've had I've had to learn it. And they were really close to me, right? But I've had to learn, I don't, I can't, I can't, like how I'm sitting in this chair, right? I can't, I can't put my weight on you and do what I need to do because I go hard, right? And I need I need to know that if I'm if I'm in a vulnerable moment or if I'm in a moment where I really, you know, again, we're gonna talk about it. Enduring leadership means I'm gonna go through some, I'm gonna have some mountaintops, but I'm gonna show enough have some valleys. I'm gonna have some times where I'm climbing up and then I'm gonna have some times where I'm I'm sliding down the mountain. Like I ain't even mean to go down this fast. What happened? Right? I need, and I don't want the people, I I it's it's not about whether or not they can be a good friend or whether or not they can be in your life. It is about your expectations of who they're gonna be and what they're gonna do. Because I am a person of great hope, which means I get disappointed a lot or used to, because I would believe that the that the vision that I set in my head is exactly how things were gonna pan out. And I would hope for that vision. And when it didn't pan out the way I had hoped for, I was like, well, Lord, what happened? Right? I had to learn to reset my expectations and to start envisioning God coming through for me. Hey Larry. Hey Larry, um and Jeanne. I don't know if we acknowledge Janay. Hey Janay, hey, what up, right? Uh, as you guys are coming in, please say hello. We want to engage with you as much as we can on tonight, right? But when I started changing what I was setting my hope on to being God's words, God's promises, and not just the word in the Bible, but the word I was getting from my quiet time with God, the the and from my relationship with God, because I started to know God as a sustainer. I started to know God as a provider, I started to know God as a rock, right? I started to know God as a strong tower. And then once you know what you know about a person, you can set an expectation of that person. When I came to know God as a provider, I could set an expectation that God would provide. When I came to know that God was a sustainer and that he was my strength, when I got in hard times, I came to say, you know what? I can set my hope on who I know God to be. And that's the same thing I'm telling you to do with people in your life. Set your hope on who you know them to be.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Okay. Don't listen, y'all. You got to be real. Don't fool yourself. Um, who do you know this person to be? Who have they shown you to be? And and so as we're talking about this, and we're we're gonna keep talking about this in different ways. Let us know if you're feeling that. Let us know if you know you need to recategorize a person, drop it in the chat. If you know you need to recategorize somebody, drop it in the chat.
SPEAKER_01:Just an emoji if you got to.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just put the emoji in the chat. You know what I'm saying? Um, and and that's it. And just let us know, like, hey, I probably need to reorganize, re-categorize my my uh my friend organizational chart. You know what I mean? Like you have the org chart. It's a re-org. You gotta re-org. It's a re-org, okay? It's gonna help you, and it's gonna help you to go into it. So one of the things that so like Quita was saying, like, we're talking about this idea of enduring leadership. One of the things I took thought about today, Quita. Um, I didn't tell you this. But uh is uh amen. I do. Thank you, Sebastian, for being real. Jehovah Gyra, Sebastian. I know that's right. Be real. Um when when leaders, when life happens to leaders, life happens to everyone around them. Well, jump on in there then and get in there. I I I realize like what one of the things what if if you will have any kind of leadership in your life, like you would have said was your family, community, you know, uh work, what whatever that whatever that space is for you. When life happens to you, it happens to everyone around you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so it is, and that can be very that can be very weighty, which again speaks to we gotta have the right people around us. Um that can be a very, very weighty feeling to know because some stuff, most stuff you can't control. Uh, we talk about all the time, like you can't control it. And you have, but you have a responsibility to keep moving forward because if you stop, the people, the people that are following you can stop. Um, and when you stop, the people that are moving uh and watching you, they can stop. And now they they're they are lost and they don't know where they're going, and they're not, you know, the moment their momentum can be paused. And you have to know that there really is a responsibility when it comes to leading. And I think that I think that as leaders and or people that are are are act are active in leadership, we have to understand what it takes to endure.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Not just for me, but for the people around me. It matters. And you we we can't, we don't have the luxury of just saying, I'm done. It doesn't work that way. Um, that is, and I think it's understanding how um what a what a high uh honor it is, but also how how how much of a responsibility it really is to say that I lead, you know. Um and and so to me, I think that uh what one of the things I the uh you know we follow a pastor uh that Pastor Darius Daniels. We followed him for a long time. We love Darius Daniels. We love Darius Daniels, yeah. If y'all, if y'all, if y'all don't know Darius Daniels, check him out. I'm telling you. He has this look, he has this series. I'm gonna do a quick plug because it's actually really good. He's doing a he's doing a series right now on a detox. Y'all, it's it's top notch, like top notch, detoxing basically your faith. It's great. Um so but one of the things that he talks about is this idea of what faith uh what strong faith really is. We think of strong faith a lot of times as the amount of faith we have, um, but strong faith is not about the amount of faith you have, strong faith is about the what he's the quality of faith that you have. And the quality of faith oftentimes is defined as how long you can have it. Oh so this idea of strong faith is really long faith. And so that's good, faith is in and what it takes, what it takes to endure, you have to have the faith to keep moving. Meaning you have to know that the next step is in front of you even when you don't see it. And you have to take it anyway. And as a leader, oftentimes you're the first one out, so you gotta take it. No matter what you feel, no matter how uncertain you are, uh, no matter what what has happened before in the past, no matter what your anxieties are, you gotta take it. And so you gotta and you have to keep taking it and keep taking it and keep taking it, and it doesn't stop. And I think that's one of the most exhausting things about leadership. This process never ends. Like, and it that does not end that that it just doesn't end. Like, and sometimes I'm like, yo, like I'm kind of tired, and I just kind of want it to be done, but it just isn't. And when you sign up for something that puts you in that kind of position, you sign up to endure, and endurance is really, really hard.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think, hey J and Ashley, thank y'all for coming to the live and all the friends. Yeah. Um, you know, I think that there's something to be said about the journey of a leader, right? And and there is this idea of leadership, right, where everyone sees the glory of it, but not everybody sees the pain of it. No, right, not every not everybody sees the struggle that it took for you to get to the platform. They just see how great you are once you get there, right? But a leader does not get to ignore the pain. You have to go through the pain in order to get to the glory. And a lot of times when we get in painful moments, that pain can become paralyzing. That pain, you have to know, guys, we we stress on the podcast constantly, self-awareness. You have to know what your natural response or what your uh what your adapted response to stress is. You have to know when you get to seasons of overwhelm, yeah, how do you respond? Right? I know for me, when I get to seasons of overwhelm, my productivity is down. We're low. Okay, right. And I know that I will stop performing if I'm overwhelmed. And so I because I know that about myself, I'll start catching it and I'll start saying, okay, how can I delegate this differently? How can I structure my life differently? Because I'm a leader, I don't get to skip past the pain. I don't get to pretend like my life is not what it is. Man, look. And more so because I'm a leader, I know that the way that I walk through my season, I'm teaching somebody else how to walk through theirs. I know that even without me saying a word, somebody is watching. You're being watched. And what I'm what I want to tell everyone watching us, whether you're watching live or whether you're watching the recording, is that there is somebody that is watching how you go through painful seasons. There's somebody that is learning endurance through your journey. Yes. There is somebody that's learning how faith operates by watching you go through hard times. There is somebody that has been made privy to your journey simply for the fact that they need that information for whatever's going to come next in their life. And I know that all of us are not driven by that responsibility, and I get that, right? But you have to know, I think sometimes we think we're in it by ourselves, and we think that nobody sees us. But what I'm telling you is that everybody, if you've been drawn to this podcast, you are a person who is a lighthouse in the middle of a river, in the middle of an ocean, right? And there is somebody who needs your light in order to pass through the waters. And it took you a lot to get to that point, and it took you a lot to find your light to even turn it on. But I'm telling you that that light is not just for you. Man, look. The hope you find in this season, your ability to endure and push past obstacles and push past challenges, what you are what you are pressing through right now in the seasons, generations after us will write about. Yeah. Generations after us will acknowledge you. There is somebody, you know, I talk all the time about how what what my great-great-grandchildren, they're gonna be like, well, you know, Grandma Quita, you know. She always said, you know, I I want to be remembered. Well, in Greenville, we had a um, we had a legend just passed um in the Greenville community, and people are writing posts about how they remember how committed she was to her community, how how um how much she cared and and took care of everybody around her. People who didn't even know her, I didn't know this woman until I saw how many people were writing about her. Right? She didn't know that she she knew she had some impact, but I'm pretty sure she didn't know that one day she would touch my life. Right? Your story is gonna touch lives of people you never meet. Hey, Sharonda. Hey, Sharonda. Right. Your story is gonna touch the lives of people you'll never get to meet. What you do in this season of your life, it will make a difference for people that you may never ask to hear it from. Absolutely. Right? It makes a difference, and I don't want you to think that you making it through this time or making it through this season is of no consequence. Right? I even me hearing about your victory, that might be the thing that pushes me to get to my next stage or my next level. That's right. You don't have to be on a platform to make a difference. You don't, you just have to keep going. Listen, you just gotta keep going, guys.
SPEAKER_00:Keep going. Just keep you have to keep going. Um, you know, I think I think something we need to acknowledge, Queen, is that one of the things that makes us want to stop is when we make mistakes. Um and I hate making mistakes.
SPEAKER_01:If somebody else hate making mistakes, if you hate making mistakes, it's the public ones that other people. Oh my gosh, that everybody's seeing that. Or like somebody pointed out, like, hey, you know you ain't do that right, right?
SPEAKER_00:Like, why don't you just yeah, why don't you just yeah, yeah, keep that to yourself. Yeah, yeah. If you if you don't feel that if y'all hate making mistakes, or if you can admit, yeah, I done made some mistakes, go and put that in the chat. I like I I often I had a moment last week, I want to start maybe a couple of weeks ago, where I was I was talking with my husband and I was just like, I um I don't know if I'm cut out for this. Like I just I felt like I kept doing the same wrong thing over and over. And it was it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't uh on purpose, like it wasn't intentional. It was just like I just felt like I just couldn't get it right. And it really was it was kind of debilitating in the moment. It took me a couple of days to move through it, but I didn't like I just I had I went all the way to I just must not be cut out for this. Like I can't, I'm not gonna say, hey, what's up, Emmanuel? Um and I I really so I think making mistakes is a reality, and um, and we have to acknowledge that sometimes that can be a thing that slows us down. Uh and and I think the theory.
SPEAKER_01:But here's the thing. Can I can I cut in real quick? Sure. Just with one quick thing. It's not the mistake that's holding you back, it's how you process the mistake. It is holding you back.
SPEAKER_00:It is, it's how you processed it. And but well, we'll get to that later. But like I think uh I but yes, it's how you processed it because mistakes are meant to you use mistakes either to keep to keep you down or to move you forward. And so if you're processing the mistake that you've made um as something that's debilitating and you're seeing as like, I made a mistake, so therefore I can't move forward, that is a different way of looking at it of I made a mistake, how can I move forward? That there you you have to have it is it really is taking on a totally different mentality. And one of the things though that has helped me, uh, hey Jessica, um and I I think that one of the things that has helped me to move through mistakes is understanding this very important thing, right? Um that oftentimes mistakes are not how I don't want to say this. Sometimes the the you can see, especially as leaders, you can see where you want to go. You can see the vision, you can see the outcome that you want. And believing that just because you can see the outcome doesn't mean that you won't make mistakes. And it also doesn't mean that that outcome isn't coming. Mistakes don't mistakes don't uh nullify the outcome. They just that honestly, if you have the right mentality towards mistakes, it will push you closer to it. Because the thing that you're learning is the thing you need in order to get closer to your outcome.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You have to learn. I think when we were uh when we were doing the pre-work for today, we talked about how your confidence in the outcome does not exempt you from mistakes along the way. Correct. Right? Like even though you can still have faith that you are going to accomplish that thing, you are you are going to make it happen, you're gonna push through, right? And and our confidence keeps us going, but our confidence does not prevent us from doing the wrong thing. Right. That's you know, when I uh when I finally, after 12 years after getting my MDV, when I finally got uh uh surrendered to the Lord and got licensed as a minister, it took me 12 years, but that that's between me and the Lord.
SPEAKER_00:But uh not anymore, you just confessed. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, no, I just told the whole world. But that's also okay, we cheers in now though. That's right, Cleita. That's right. That's right. But when I was in my pre-work for getting licensing, licensed, I sat down with my leader, and that was that's the one thing she told me that I remember. She was like, You're gonna make mistakes. And I was like, you know, you're called, you're anointed, you're gifted, you got strengths, you got you got talents, you got all of that, right? You have the capacity to succeed in what God has set you to do, right? That the path for you getting from your beginning to your end, it's already laid out. On along that path, you will veer off, you will do the wrong thing sometimes, you will forget something one time, you will say the wrong thing. My Lord, you're gonna say you will say the wrong thing. It'll go ahead and settle it. It will happen. Absolutely. You're gonna have to repent, and not just to the Lord, y'all. Something I had to unlearn recently, y'all. This is the unlearned podcast. And we are one thing I had to unlearn recently. Um, I did something and I knew I was wrong. I was wrong. I ain't even gonna get into all the details, but I did something, I knew I was wrong. So I went, I repented to the Lord. I said, Lord, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done that, and Lord, I ain't gonna do it again. And and but something in my conscience said, You ain't do it to the Lord. You did it to your friend. That's it. And so I had to call my friend. And it was a funny thing, right? I still had to call and be like, girl, I am so sorry. Okay, but this is what I did. And she laughed. But as soon as I did it, I felt the hope of my future coming back. Because when you when you have, here's the thing. We make mistakes, and there's nothing wrong with making the mistakes. We don't put in the necessary energy to recover from the mistake. Yes. Right? You did something wrong, whether intentionally or unintentionally, it was wrong. Right? You you did something in error, right? It had an impact. Right? You didn't answer that email. I'm talking to myself now. You didn't answer that email from a month ago. And now you're coming back in. You gotta make that right. Yes, you do. You can't just hope that they figured it out. Make that right. Make it right, Jacqueline. You have to recover well. You gotta bounce back, and then you have to go and you gotta make it right. Yeah. That's the work of a leader. The work of a leader is not just to tell people what to do, it is not just to say, hey guys, won't let you know. All right, this is the vision and we're going forward, right? That's not the real work of the leader. It's not the only work. It's not the only work. Okay, thank you. It's not the only work of a leader. The the the some of the most important work that a leader will do will happen in those one-on-one conversations when you tell somebody, hey, I was wrong, and we're gonna pivot. We're gonna shift. And I need to make this right with you. Yes. Some of the the greatest moments I've seen from leaders that I respect the most are the ones where they came and apologized to the people. Man, look. Where they came and made it right. Yes. And as a leader, whether you are a leader in your household, a leader on your job, a leader in your church, a leader in if you a leader on the playground, I don't care. There will be moments where you have to go and make something right.
SPEAKER_00:You will. You'll have to make it right. And I think also, I I think I I have had more than a few of the make it right moments as a leader. My goodness. But what the thing that I have to always, I also have to remember is uh what the best apology is change behavior. So you don't want to keep coming and making the same thing right over and over again. Girl, I'm sorry again, my bad. I'm right now. It's like, yo, like we're gonna keep doing this. You you really have to make an effort towards the actual change. And it doesn't, it doesn't mean that you you won't make the mistake again, but understanding that as a leader, it is important to take that and then continue to grow in who you are so that that doesn't become that is no longer a part of what you do as a person.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, and so that is uh I think, and again, that is incumbent upon. I would say that even before the work, uh the work of a leader is with uh yourself before it's with other people. Um you you you must you must understand how to move yourself before you can think to move others. And if you aren't doing that, right, if you keep breaking promises to yourself, if you keep telling yourself that you are um going to you know do something you said, and oh, I keep if you keep trying to, if you keep making it right with you over and over and over again, you you wait a minute, Ruth. You are going to have trouble with other people.
SPEAKER_01:Because Ruth be acting like she ain't stepping on toes. Oh, I'm sorry. You break your promises to yourself. My first thought was the gym, you know, because I had some promises I made to myself about that gym. You know, I was during the summer three times a week, I was faithful. Then I was like, hey, let's take that down to two. Now I'll be like, let me slide in, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna slide up in there real quick. And now I'll be like, hey, you know, it is in the gym understand. The gym don't but gym really ain't worried about you for it. You're breaking promises to yourself. I'm sorry, I just feel it in my spirit, so I'm gonna say it, and whoever it's for, go ahead and catch it. You breaking promises to yourself about what you said you was gonna do with that relationship. Oh, yeah. You broke some promises to yourself, not promises to them, not promises to your mama, your daddy, your spiritual covering. You broke a promise to yourself when you said you was gonna break something off and then do it. You broke a promise to yourself when you said you wasn't going back and then you did.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_01:Now, these when we're talking about endurance, yeah, and we're talking about having faith to move forward and having the hope to be able to see a version of ourselves that we haven't seen yet, right? But there is something, and you have to be able to identify what is it that is holding me back from moving forward, because there is an invisible force that every time I try to move forward is pulling me back. And some of it is your broken promises.
SPEAKER_00:That's it. You have you you you are um you are the first person you lead. We say it all the time. You're the first person you lead. And if you say that, that's good. Oh, we don't say it all the time. You know what? I I say that, you know what? That's actually that in the chat. You are the first person you lead. That's actually one of the values we have at Angel Street. Like you, you, you, you lead yourself first.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, Angel Street.
SPEAKER_00:Somebody make sure y'all tag Angel Street in the credit. That's so my bad. I I got organizations confused. But um, I I I think that uh what the thing that I also think is so important for us to uh be able to say is even in the midst of mistakes, your humanity does not trump God's sovereignty at the end of the day. Your humanity cannot trump God's sovereignty. My Lord. So there is grace for your mistakes. And understand that in if you know we're human, we're gonna do the things we're saying let's not do. It's gonna happen. Like you just you have to you the the thing that I appreciate, one of the things that my father taught us uh growing up is the art of the rebound. And so um in basketball, I know I've talked about this on the podcast before. Um in basketball, the best, the the the one of the things that team that offensive teams have to always learn how to do is to be able to rebound because you are most you're likely to make the shot, you give yourself another chance, essentially, right? So you make the shot, you shoot the shot, you miss it. But if you don't hustle for the rebound, you can't get the next chance. So the question is how quickly, how quickly are you trying to get your rebound, right? Which is how quickly you stay in the game. But if you just lean back, take a shot, lean back, oh man, I missed it, and then just go back down the court, you're missing opportunities to score. Wait a minute, that's good.
SPEAKER_01:Y'all better catch them rebounds. And I I like it because when we miss a shot, meaning when we make a mistake or when we get off course, right, and we feel like we've missed something, you stay in that moment of shame and guilt. Yes, right, right, and it prevents you from hustling and saying, it is so simple. When God is looking at our past and our lives, he's not like, dang it, they missed that shot. There goes the game. That's right, that's right, that's right. That there is a there is another opportunity that I got a plan B. I wasn't worried about plan A because I already had plan B in the chamber, but you gotta hustle and go get the ball again. Yeah, you gotta put in the effort to try again. That's right. You gotta uh, I'm thinking of Peter on the boat, Jesus coming, they have been fishing all night, you know, and Jesus comes, preaches from the boat, and then he says, let down the nets on the right side. You know, Peter could have been like, hey, listen, I didn't have the tried, done it, we've been down this road, been out here all night. I ain't got time for all of that. Yeah, but and it's in the hustle, it was in the attempt that they found the blessing. And some of us have shot the ball a couple of times and missed, and we've lost our hustle because we don't believe that we'll we'll make it in the next time. Man, look, and but you are in a season where if you have been walking with God in this season, where you've been allowing God to show you you, you've been allowing God to speak into your life, you've been allowing God to give you vision and dream and hope and and and purpose again. When he comes this time and says, Now let him down. Yeah, now shoot the shot. Yeah, now do it because I'm on the boat, right? Get Jesus in your boat, put him in your hustle. Make y'all make your faith part of your hustle. That's right. Right? Get up in the morning, encourage yourself with the word of God. It don't matter if you can sing on key, get up and sing a song to the Lord.
SPEAKER_00:Well, by yourself. Don't you have to do it in front of everybody else. Don't do that. Please don't do that. Please don't do that. Please don't do that.
SPEAKER_01:I very much care. I care. I care a lot. But but seriously, you gotta hustle with faith. You gotta hustle and say, Oh, I ain't make it that time. But I bet if I if I figure it out because I believe who God said I am, greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world, and shoot it again. You gotta hustle, but this time make sure Jesus is on your boat when you let down that net.
SPEAKER_00:What one of the things, um, I remember one of my uh students at Angel Street, she did a presentation at her school, and um this, but it's made me so proud. She's a she was a junior last year's senior this year, but she was doing it as a junior, and one of the things she talked about was the way that she has navigated mistakes and how when she was in ninth or tenth grade, that whenever she makes a mistake, it used to take her like a week to recover. And she said, now it takes me a day. That's nasty. That's good. That right there, and she's she's 17 years old. Um, she said, and what I went from a week to a day, and like now I get back. That is what's called recovery. You you you have to shorten your recovery path because you can't, you don't have the you don't have the luxury again as a leader, you do not have the luxury of staying down that long. Now that might be where you where you are. We're looking for growth. You don't have to there's no shame in where you are right now, yeah. But what's the growth? What how are you moving closer to a shorter recovery period? And how are you how are you how are you moving closer to getting your rebound? Like that is that is important. And so when she said that, man, I really it almost brought tears to my eyes, honestly. I've known this girl since she was eight years old. And um, and you know, what we do, Angel Street, we learn music, and a lot of times the music is it can be a little challenging. And I remember when she was shut down. I think Sebastian in here said one of the things that she does is she'll shut down when things get when when when it gets too hard. Like, um, I I remember when she was shut down, and I remember she couldn't get apart and she would just sometimes she just leave the room. But when she said, it used to take me a week, now it takes me a day. I said, Man, look at that'll preach all day long right there. If if nothing, if I if we didn't, if we didn't help, if we don't help to people to do anything else, if we can help people to recover faster, shorten your recovery time.
SPEAKER_01:Shorten that recovery time. Yo, that is so, man, let me tell you something. That is so good because the shorter, if the game is only an hour long, if you're shortening your recovery time, you're getting more opportunities to score. And it's not the people who play the game better that win, it's the people who learn how to recover.
SPEAKER_00:That's bet come on, look, it's seriously, rebounds and free throws win the game. If you rebound, you get second and third chances that the other team done get. And free throws, don't miss easy opportunities, guys. Like, don't don't miss, don't you gotta practice when nobody's in front of you because you have to get it right. A free throw, y'all know basketball, but when you when you have a free throw, nobody's blocking you. You gotta get that, like put don't, don't practice as much as when nobody's watching you. Practice as much as when nobody's covering you as when they are. Because you wanna you wanna make you wanna get those quick wins. It helps you to stay encouraged, it helps you to stay hopeful for you to win, for you to get those easy wins so that when it gets hard, you have the energy to try to recover quickly. Like that is part of what leadership is, and it's part of how you want to endure. And it and it doesn't stop, it really doesn't stop. Welcome back, Sebastian. We're glad you're back.
SPEAKER_01:Welcome back, and I saw Jessica say great convo, ladies. Thank you, Jessica. Thank you, Jessica. Listen, we out here, we're out here just giving y'all the lessons we've learned along the way, and some new stuff is coming out today because I'm over here getting encouraged all over again. Listen.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, man, because it's hard out here, man. Like, literally, I don't lie. Like, I I am sometimes like I wish, I'm not, I'm just gonna be honest. I was like, man, y'all can have this leadership stuff, man. Y'all can have this leadership stuff, y'all can have it. You can have it. Like, I'm I'm really cool. Like, just I just I just want to clock in somewhere. Like, just somebody give me a job I can clock in at because honestly, because it'd be hard. I think about going to work at Sephora all the time. It'd be hard. You so pretty. Man, look, I'll be an excellent employee. Excellent. What you talking about the best. What you talking? Okay. I get my check and I ain't gotta think about where it's coming from. Shoot. Listen, that's not like we're tapping. I just haven't agree.
SPEAKER_01:You wanna know what's funny? Is me and uh I'm in a PhD program, friends, and uh that that wasn't said to boast. It was said to uh to ask the intercessors and all those who know the Lord to pray um and to keep me lifted before the Lord as I continue on this journey. Um, but what me and one my another one of my friends was in the program together, we say all the time, listen, retire me, okay? I'm not in this program to get a higher level job. I don't want to be you more work. Man, give me the soft life. Yes, please. Give me the soft life. And Sebastian said, and be exactly and be responsible for baby. What you said. Listen, when the clock goes out, you know, because that is a leader, we don't clock out. You are carrying that with you. Yeah, you're carrying, you're going home thinking about how can I make this better? What can I add? What can I do? You know, my friend, our friend Ashley, right now is leading, you know, a wonderful, beautiful program. And she's constantly thinking about how do I make this better, how can I add value, right? Because as leaders, you are all your mind is always thinking about the good of what you're carrying. Man, right? You don't get to just focus on you because you're carrying something. Yeah. Right. And we can get heavy laden, right? You can get heavy. Um, um, there is a I used to pray against the spirit of heaviness. Really, I was praying, you know, as I was on a weight loss journey. I prayed against the spirit of heaviness. Um, and I want to offer that to the saints. Y'all too, we all can pray against the spirit of heaviness, but in the spirit, stay with me now, friends. Stay with me, okay? In the spirit of the spirit of heaviness, where the thing that you used to count as a blessing, it's a blessing to lead these people, it's a blessing to be able to impact and influence their lives. It's a blessing to be able to pour out. Oh, I used to love that word. Oh, you know, I just like to pour out. Now I'll be like, give me my give me my stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Man, look, man. Give me my stuff, bruh. No, I'll pour it. Give me. Let me just, I wasn't. No, I need a bump of pour.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. But you know, but but when your blessing becomes a burden, when what you're carrying, right, there is a burden that is from the Lord, and then there's everything else that we added on to it. And that's the stuff that made it seem insurmountable and made you feel like you couldn't continue to persist and couldn't push past those hard times and obstacles. It's because there have been things added to what the Lord gave you. And your job as a leader is to discern what should be on your back and what needs to come off. The Bible says that we are to lay aside every weight and the sin which just so easily beset us so that we can run with patience the race that is set before us, right? You have some weights that the Lord did not add to you, right? You got the weight of shame, you got the weight of guilt, you got the weight of feeling uh insecure and the weight of a lack of confidence. You got the weight of doubt on you, right? There are weights that were not that were not part of your purpose package. You have a purpose package, and then you had everything that you picked up along the way. And we are, I think we started off by saying that we're doing a crew check. After you do a crew check, you need to do a you check, right? You need to do a crew check, then you need to do a you check, and you need to figure out what have I what have I added to my life? Yeah, what did I pick up along the way? What's something that somebody said about me that I believe? Because what you picked up is connected to what you believe. Yeah, right. What did somebody say that I believe? What did I hear that I believe? And it's altered how I'm choosing to approach God and run the race that He set me in, right? You have to be able, and then you got to discern what was a weight and what was a sin. Yeah. Right? Because a weight I need to cast off a sin, I need to repent for and change. Yeah. Right? You need to do a crew check, a you check, and you need to discern what did I pick up that I wasn't supposed to carry, and what did I pick up that I now need to repent for so that God can change my life as I pivot in this next level of my leadership.
SPEAKER_00:And I want to acknowledge something that um Ashley said, she said, leadership and evaluation go hand in hand. Evaluation of the situation and of yourself. You have to constantly, constantly evaluate, constantly look at and and and make changes and watch the situation, watch the circumstance, watch what's going on, watch your behavior. You have to, it is an evaluation like, okay, I did this, let's look at it and reflect. I did this, let's look at it and reflect. I did this, this happened, let's reflect, let's make something different, let's pivot. All this, it is a constant motion. Leaders are not meant to honestly, if we're honest, and I I I'm saying I'm gonna say this, but I also don't want to think like I don't want anybody to think that this is necessarily like the ideal or healthy way to do it, but it's the reality. I'm not, I'm just saying it's a reality of our. That's that that leaders mentally very seldom shut down. The mental a lot of times is going. I wish as a I wish I could shut it down. Um and it's really tough to do it. And there are moments, right? There are seasons, you know, but this coming up season, it'll be easier to do that because everybody's kind of shut down, right? Um but it's hard as a leader, as as people who have responsibilities and weights that you're carrying yours and other people's. It's hard to shut yourself down mentally. You could stop moving, but your your mind doesn't smell. Right. And so I think that that is that is a reality. And it's something that we just have to we have to learn how to endure. Um and then there is a period of acceptance. I think that as leaders, there are some things that we just have to accept. And um some of the things are are easier to accept than others, right? But it's if if one of the things that will help us mentally is if we stop uh being surprised by certain things because as leaders, this is just part of our reality. Uh and so I think one of the like we've actually come up with a little bit of a list here. I don't know how everybody's gonna feel about this list, I'm gonna be honest with you, but it's it's the truth. We we just we gonna speak. I mean, I think we've kind of been speaking truth. Oh, we just want to speak some some more kind of truth here uh as far as the realities of what leaders are actually going to experience, what you're going to get as a leader and what you're not gonna get as a leader. And that is an acceptance, that is something that we have to accept as leaders that this is our reality and this is what we've signed up. This is what you've been graced by God to be. And so I understand that this is not something that you should take that that you should look at as a burden. Look at as something that you you've been graced to be, but you also can't compare it to the experiences of other people who have a different type of grace. But this is this is your grace, and so one of the things, Aquita, we'll just kind of go back and forth. Let's do it. You know what I'm saying? Just to kind of say I I read this, we did this list the other day, y'all, and I'm telling you, it kind of made us laugh. As I'm reading it again, it's like, boy, this is just true. So one of the things that we have to accept about leadership is that leaders don't get instruction manuals. Listen, you're not you're you're not gonna get it. Nobody's coming to tell you how to do it. You're not getting a play-by-play. Now, we there are lots of books out there, there are lots of resources to help you to learn things that are important as a leader, but as far as what your responsibilities are and how you are designed to do it and what God has gifted you to do, that's just a day-by-day learning. You just gonna have to you're gonna have to walk that thing out every day. You ain't getting an instruction menu.
SPEAKER_01:Let me tell you what else you're not gonna get. It's affirmation. You're not always people are not always coming to tell you that you're doing the right thing. No, that they're not always coming to tell you, man, you're just really great at that, right? Sometimes you really just gotta believe in yourself. Yeah. Right? Are you are you gotta go back? This goes back to your crew. Do a crew check. There are you're not gonna get it where you're leading all the time, but you ought to have a crew that when you go back, they should be able to reflect back to you what you need to know in that moment to keep going. Right. There have been times where I've been like, man, I don't feel like I'm gonna be good enough to do this. And Ruth Abigail be like, you got it. You know, she's not a woman of many words. Um I need to hear. That's right. She gave me just enough to keep it. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. You need a crew check. Look, the other thing, as leaders, you are often not going to get a yes the first time from anybody. If you're asking for uh uh if if you're going after something, uh if you are, you know, if you're asking people for support, uh, if you are asking your team to do something, like and you want them to do a thing and you have a way you want them to do it. Oftentimes that is not gonna be done the first time the way you want it to be done. Um right, you're not gonna get a yes the first time. You have to endure. Don't think that because the yes didn't come that it won't come. And don't think that because they didn't do it this way, this time, right, the way you want it, don't think that it can't happen. You have to keep moving. Um, and so just know you probably won't get a yes the first time.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, this one's hard for me. You're not always gonna be understood. My goodness. In fact, rarely, rarely gonna understand you, right? That's right. Um, and you will have to make moves that other people don't agree with. Yep. You will have to make moves that other people don't understand. Yep. You because you're moving off of a vision that you're trying to relay to people and you're hoping that they catch it, but they don't always catch it the first time. No. You literally have to build the vision so that people can catch it and run with it. You gotta write it so that they'll run with it. Right. You can't just write it. You gotta say it over and over because people are not gonna understand your your ambition, your drive, your purpose, what you're seeking after. They're not gonna understand that God gave you this thing and he's trusting you with it. They ain't gonna understand none of that. No, they're not. They're gonna have to continue to reiterate it even when you feel misunderstood.
SPEAKER_00:And under uh, but this is something I've had to I had to learn. Um the thing that's in your head has been with you forever. When you communicate it out to other people, it just got to them. And so for you to expect for them to understand you immediately with something that's been living with you for years, uh, months, whatever, whatever the time frame is, is unfair to that person. You can't you can't take what's been living with you for years, give it to them one time and expect for them to just move. It doesn't work that way. You have you have to do what Quita was saying, you got to keep going, you have to keep reiterating it, you have to be patient with people to help them. And sometimes they'll get there, sometimes they won't. But please don't expect them to get there the first time. Um understand this as a leader, your next decision won't be easier. You likely your next decision will likely not be easier. Um we have to make decisions. We we all know what decision fatigue feels like looks like. We have to make decisions all the time. Yeah, like the art of decision making doesn't make the decisions easy. It might make your your the the the pace of making a decision a little faster. You might be a little more clear on your decision, but sometimes that decision is still gonna be hard. Um and and just understand that your next decision might not be easier.
SPEAKER_01:My lord. Um I I'm gonna skip to uh it is not gonna be a truth that you already know enough. My goodness. I don't care how many classes you got, I don't care how many degrees you got. Okay, I got almost all of them. Two more years in the classroom. You really do. That's crazy. I'm calling you for that's crazy. If you know prayer is your love language, I need you in there. Uh-huh. Okay, I need you, I need you in there on on behalf of God's daughter. All right. But there is always more to learn, and not just more to learn subject matter or content matter. There's more to learn about you. Absolutely. There's more to learn about the Lord, there's more to learn about the organization, right? And about the growth of the organization and what what it takes to carry vision. You don't already know enough. You are gonna have to set yourself to being in a constant state of learning and unlearning.
SPEAKER_00:That's right. You, as a leader, have to know that you will not arrive. Leadership is truly a journey, not a destination. When you think you've arrived, you haven't. You've hit a checkpoint, you have not finished. And if you behave like you finished, you're actually gonna start moving backwards. You can't, you cannot behave like it's done. Like, okay, I got here, great. Don't celebrate the destination. Celebrate your checkpoint. That is a celebration, but understand that you have more in your race. And as a leader, it is about the journey, it is not about the destination. You're not going to arrive anywhere. You just get to your next checkpoint.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, and I think this could be the last one, right? Or maybe not. I don't know how Ruth is feeling. Ruth looked like, no, it ain't, right? I mean, here's something that we really want you to have to unlearn is that you will not have to invest again into the vision that God has given you. Right? We think because we invested our time, our energy, our money, that we've done what we were supposed to do, and that now the vision will be like a well-oiled machine. There will come a season, there will come a time where you are gonna have to go. It's gonna you're gonna feel like, did I start over? Right? And when we're talking about enduring leadership, yeah, and you feel like you've been at this thing for a long time and you've been pushing and you've been going, and now you're getting to a point where you're realizing that in order for this thing to continue moving, in order for this thing to keep going and keep persisting, I'm gonna have to invest again. Yeah. I'm gonna have to find another, another source of of rejuvenation, of inspiration. I'm gonna have to go down and re-envision something again. Something that I was thinking of from when we were talking earlier is when you think about the the necessity of a pivot, if you are still doing things exactly the same way you were when you started, that is likely why you are feeling this the level of stress, anxiety, and frustration that you are in the season. Because the next season of your leadership and the next season of what you carry, what it's gonna require is for you to reinvest. Yeah. You gotta reinvest in going back to the drawing board and saying, okay, what can what else can this be? Right? I had a vision and now I've reached a point where I feel like I accomplished something and I got to where I thought I was supposed to be. But I'm still sitting here and there's still life in my body. There's still life in this organization, and we gotta get to our next place. You gotta, you have to set a moment. You have to set time to retreat and to reinvest. That's what a retreat is it's a reinvestment.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, that's good. And we are gonna do this last one because this is important. You gotta know that you gotta unlearn that including more people will make less work for you. You have to unlearn that including more people and whatever it is you're doing will make less work for you. Sometimes we wanna bring people on the team, we wanna hire them, we wanna, you know, we we want you to help with this, and I want I want your expertise here. And we think it's it's because I don't want to do this thing or I'm not good at it, and it's gonna make it easier for me when I have other people around me. Wrong. That's wrong. It's not, it's not gonna be easier. It will actually increase your work because people bring more than just their expertise, they bring who they are, and you have to manage people. Listen, I was under this false impression. I you your girl was was was thinking, man, we're gonna bring this do this thing, and then I can go focus on this and XYZ. It's a whole other ball game when you got people who bring their character, they bring their integrity or lack thereof, they bring their issues, they bring their personalities, they bring um their their days, they bring their current moods, they bring all of that as well as their expertise that they're contributing. Most of what they bring is outside of their expertise. Most of what they bring is themselves and everything that came with them before you knew them. Y'all, it don't make it easier. Now that's not to say you don't do it. Do it because you need help and you need to bring people in who can help you to move the move whatever forward you need to move forward. It's the same with being married. Ain't just at work. You think adding another person to your life is gonna make it easier? It isn't. You that person is coming with a whole lot of other set of things, most of which you don't know about. So just understand like adding more people doesn't mean less work for you. And it it means it's going to take more, take more effort from you than you realize, but that's also part of leadership. And it's something it's something that we have to unlearn. And that's what makes leaders so incredibly important and vital in in where you are. This is why you're so important and why you have to be there, because it takes something special to be able to manage whole people, um, and manage relationships and manage the gifts of people and manage how they how they move and help to move things forward with a group of people. That that's a skill, that's a gift. That's not something everybody can do. And so um I think it's important for you to understand again that whether it's your family, whether that's at work, whether it's a community, whether that's at church, whatever that is, that's hard. It's hard work because people are hard work and leaders lead people. Managers manage projects, leaders lead people. And if you are in a leadership position, if you're in a leadership role at any point, people are are who you are. Um people are who you're carrying. And people come with a lot. So don't don't so we have to unlearn that people, more people add people, yeah. No, more people don't make it less work, it makes it more work, right? Yeah, um, so those are just some things that we are constantly having to unlearn ourselves, and just to remember that this is the reality of a leader. This is what we must accept when we say yes to that. We have to do what we must do. This is what we gotta accept, man. I'm and I do this for me. You gotta accept it. Um and and so that's it. I if I could, just this one if I could, because I I think this is a one of those concepts that is so crucial and critical to what we're talking about in helping people to move forward. We've talked about it before, we'll probably continue to talk about this, but there is a reality to the tipping point, guys. Listen, when we're talking about enduring and we're talking about moving forward in leadership, if what the more you move forward, the closer you get to your tipping point. What is a tipping point? It is essentially the point where all right, you see my pen, if y'all watching. So if you move and you keep moving and you get to the point of the pen where there's enough leverage to make the pin fall. Yeah, it's not here, it's not here, but it's it's here. And if I tip it, my all it takes is one more step to make the tipping point. One more step for whatever it is that you're looking to actually fall into place to fall into place. Yeah, it doesn't take more energy sometimes, it doesn't take a bigger leap. It just takes keep doing what you're doing. Just keep doing it. You're gonna keep moving towards the tip. And when you get to that tip, it's gonna fall.
SPEAKER_01:That's when it all falls into place. It's gonna fall. Listen, friends, check your crew, check you, shorten that. What was it? Shortening. Shorten your recovery time, shorten your recovery time, rebound, and keep pushing forward. You're almost at your tipping point. You're almost there. That's enduring leadership right there. Yay. If you guys rocked with us to the end, thank you so much for coming to meeting, guys. Absolutely fantastic time. I think every time we go live, we're like, nobody's gonna come. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't know. Me and Ruth Abigail were fully prepared to see this and talk like there was a lot of people. Listen, I was like, I'll let the rocks cry out, okay? We will preach to these rocks. I will preach to this blank screen. Yes, I will. So thank you all so much for rocking with us. Thank you all so much for continuing to rock with the podcast. If this is the first time you've seen us, we do have a podcast. We call the Unlearned Podcast. You can like, share, and follow us on all streaming platforms, okay, including the one you're watching us on today, right? And we are two middle adults that talk about leadership and the things, okay?
SPEAKER_00:Yes. We do this, guys. We do this. Um, all right, so we're going to share something fun that is coming up. You guys, Jaquita Ross is getting ready to drop her own segment. It's called The Second Act. Quita, why don't you tell just a little bit about what your segments are about?
SPEAKER_01:Listen, you know, I was I was praying about the second act, the new, the new segment I'm starting and what it really means. And God has given me a platform where He has allowed me to really help to navigate the stories of people's lives and how they have moved through their lives to learn and unlearn some things. Right. So the second act is when you go to a play and you're in there watching a play, you go in when you first sit down, you're watching the first act. That's the setup of the characters. That's where we're learning who they are. We're learning what their challenges are, um, things that they are they're going to have to overcome, right? You get to the uh the first act, and then there's an intermission where they go backstage, right? And they get equipped for what's coming in the second act. Because in the second act, there's resolutions, there's answers, there's triumph, there's victory. And so what we're doing in our segment, the second act, is we are bringing guests onto the podcast who are talking about how they moved through their first act, what they learned in their intermission, and how they are redefining and rewriting their story so that they can show us how they're winning in their second act. So, friends, please, please, please come join me on the new segment. First episode will be out first Tuesday in December. We really cannot wait to rock with you all. I've been recording these and they're gonna be absolutely amazing.
SPEAKER_00:Y'all, I just need y'all to give a shout out to Jaquita because it took me about a year to convince her to do her own thing. And um, and we are here and we are so excited, and I cannot wait for this. It is going to be a great segment. Uh, y'all make sure to tune in to the second act. Um, but y'all listen, uh, if you thought this live was worth anything, share it with somebody else. Uh and and like, share, subscribe to the podcast, join the community. We're um always wanting to include more people. And we will see y'all. Uh the two of us, you'll see the two of us again in 2026. Um, yeah. We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll take a little break. But middle adults, we always around. We're gonna be back. And look, we always around. But you can always go back to the archives. We got plenty of stuff. Uh, check it out on YouTube, check it out on Spotify, Apple Music, all of that. Uh, but y'all, until let's until then, let's keep unlearning together so that we can experience more freedom. Peace. Thank you once again for listening to the Unlearned Podcast. We would love to hear your comments and your feedback about the episode. Feel free to follow us on Facebook and Instagram and to let us know what you think. We're looking forward to the next time when we are able to unlearn together to move forward towards freedom. See you then.
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