The Rudicks Are Home: A Sister/Brother Podcast
The Rudicks Are Home: A Sister/Brother Podcast
19 - Suffer and Celebrate: Andrew Gets A New Tattoo
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Can you imagine embarking on a 14-hour drive to Florida, stuck in a car with no AC or radio and three squabbling kids in the backseat? We've lived it, and survived to laugh about it! This episode is a hilarious trip down memory lane as we reminisce about our insane childhood vacation. We also offer a window into the entertaining aspects of being an uncle.
Ever struggled with writer’s block or been paralyzed by the fear of starting from scratch? You're not alone. We share our own trials and triumphs in navigating the writing process, from the struggles of getting started and the pitfalls of thinking too big picture, to the thrill and terror of taking risks. We delve into the peculiar conundrum when a joke works but just doesn't feel right, and the daunting fear of blank pages.
Finally, we bare our souls (and our skin), discussing our own experiences with tattoos and our mom's comical horror at them. We also open up about crowd work and how that affects the dynamic of the show!
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Who do you think that is Sissy? I don't know, brother. Maybe it's Mommy and Daddy. Should we answer it? Maybe it's.
Speaker 2Pete's way to flip sis. It could be a listener or it could be Stranger danger. Lose a hug, lose a hug, live it. Oh yeah, and we're grown-ups now. Welcome to the Rudexer Home.
Speaker 1A sister brother podcast How are you?
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1That's not an answer. How are you? You're in LA.
Speaker 2Uh-oh, aunt Kathy is coming out clawing, here she comes.
Speaker 1I'm having some red wine. I'm having some cookies and wine.
Speaker 2Kathy lives off of cookies and wine.
Speaker 1She does.
Speaker 2I am at my lovely girlfriend's house, Amy, who taught me everything I know.
Speaker 1Yes, yes. And uh, I'm a cat daddy, you're a cat daddy. You've been fostering kittens.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, how's that going?
Speaker 1How many kittens do you have?
Speaker 2A little butterscotch is over here. Uh six, and I rename them constantly.
Speaker 1Oh, you give them new names every day.
Speaker 2Yeah, this little guy doesn't like to be held. He gets. He's not very cuddly, but he is cute. He's got these big eyes. Oh see, he doesn't want to. Okay, we're not doing a cat podcast, let's get back.
Speaker 1It's sort of Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2You were saying before you went on your little cat loving. They've changed me.
Speaker 1Tangent They've changed you, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, and you've changed them.
Speaker 1Literally, you change their names every day Yes. Which I think is probably very traumatic for them.
Speaker 2No, i don't think they care. They don't seem to mind, do you butterscotch?
Speaker 1If I ever have a kid, I'm going to change its name every day.
Speaker 2I don't You know what I? see mom, the way that she delights in her children, in her grandchildren, and I've just never, i don't ever Like, i've never felt that way. It's just not for me.
Speaker 1You don't have the. You don't have the.
Speaker 2Parenting.
Speaker 1You don't have parenting in your blood, you don't have the old No paternal instinct.
Speaker 2No, you don't, they're fun.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, they're fun, but you know, you're an uncle Kid, You're an uncle.
Speaker 2Uncle's being an uncle's fun.
Speaker 1You're an uncle at all.
Speaker 2I went to Coney Island with our niece and mom yesterday.
Speaker 1Yeah, did you pee pee in the pool?
Speaker 2Yeah, i did not, but I got in this like mini water game with our niece and this pool was disgusting. It was like one of those inflatable ones you would have had. It would have been your nightmare.
Speaker 1At Coney Island. It was spider central.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was like a little inflatable one off to the side.
Speaker 1Why didn't you go in the big, in the huge pool? We did, oh, okay, we did Okay.
Speaker 2Mom brought dad's SPF 150. So we all looked like ghosts.
Speaker 1We looked like ghouls Good In the pool, that's fun Yeah. Yeah, great.
Speaker 2Yeah, so here's what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1Let's get right into it.
Speaker 2Like. so you made a video recently It was a meditation detailing our childhood vacation that we took to Florida.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was fictional, it was not fictional. It's so funny, it was not fictional, it was purely based on our upbringing.
Speaker 2Like to the T and the detail of it is.
Speaker 1It was really brilliant because the way that you were able to Oh thank you.
Speaker 2Go on The way you tied memory with, creatively tying all that together in a way. That's like I wonder if people who watch that understand how specifically real that was and the way that you were able to say so much about our personalities by saying so little. You know, It's just so funny, like the detail of like the Capri Sun and how mom, our mom, would use Capri Suns to like you know, calm these storms, but you were the least. What's the word I'm looking for? like reactive or yeah.
Speaker 1She knew you were the easiest to do with. Well, yeah, in in certain situations because I was the middle child and I was the, the peacemaker, mm-hmm Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, but that video it made me laugh so hard because All of our relatives my mom, our mom's talking about like, did you like that video? I watched and I was like, oh, this is very funny. But I just thought it was funny, like all your other videos are funny. And then I watched it again because mom kept talking about it. She was like that 84 beige Dotson. She was like she's right, it had no AC.
Speaker 2Yeah no radio and Leah used to always cry Why am I the only one in the neighborhood with no AC and no radio? And she's doing an impression of you that she thought was hilarious, yeah, and And. But I watched it again today and, like all of those men, i didn't remember all of those things because I was too young, like the detail of it. But then it all came like flash.
Speaker 1I actually started remembering, like they came, they came flash back.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you know, like yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, i think that it was like the idea, for it was like this when you're a kid, like Vacation is something that we would look forward to all year, right and like now looking back at it as an adult, it's just like God that that was Sounds like it was just terrible, like driving from.
Speaker 1Ohio to Florida, like taking a a 15-hour drive with three kids Screaming like fighting, who all like hated each other in like a car that was like didn't have. This was before screens, this was before like with just like radio and like no radio.
Speaker 2What an the thing didn't have that thing didn't even have a radio. that was real, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah and like What a night, what a night, what a nightmare for mom and dad To have to do that but they loved it, they relished in it.
Speaker 2That's the thing that I'm saying. Like I don't have that, like that would have been my absolute nightmare. Yeah it's yeah, but they insisted because our aunt, who, who was lovely, who everybody loved and are so, so kind and nice, she, she conveyed to our mom that everyone takes a vacation every year. It's important. No matter what no matter your like financial situation you find, by that we went yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, so we grew up every year go. We would go to Florida and it was the best like looking back. Those are some of those are like my best memories of, of childhood and but God, what like There were some explosions in those cars. You know like, yeah, I.
Speaker 2Don't remember a lot of that. I feel like I was young and I blocked out. The other thing I was so funny is when you say in the video, the younger brother, you're my younger brother loses his mind because our dad says he's gonna turn the car around and he's Too young to understand that you're not bluffing. Yeah. I was like oh yeah, that's me first. Yeah, Yeah, he's having a meltdown, just having a meltdown, just having a total free.
Speaker 2Just like were you there the time that I? We're gonna have a rage build up? Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1I was like, it was like it was like it was like a super Intense car ride where it was just like building, the tension was building and you were just like silent and then it calmed down, like, and Then it was like an hour later that you just like Exploded and we had a box of pizza and you just like threw an entire pizza onto Mike.
Speaker 2Honestly, one of the proudest moments of my life. Like if I could go back and relive any, it would be that yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, good, good, well, that's good that that's your proudest moment.
Speaker 2Yeah, Also I know that in the.
Speaker 1In the video I do the the moment where I talk about, where I call everyone a bunch of dildos, which is like a true story. This was. It was actually like around the kitchen table and I didn't know what the word meant, but I had heard it on.
Speaker 2I had heard it on breakfast because we watch breakfast over and over all the time and in like it was just like I was like y'all are a bunch of.
Speaker 1And I thought I was, because in the movie They say he says you're all acting like a bunch of fucking dildos And I was like. I was like I'm gonna say this but I'm gonna leave out the f word, because I know that's a bad word, and I was like you're all acting like a bunch of dildos and the table just like went silent and Like mom and dad got so angry and I like had no idea what I had done.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I can imagine you captured mom exactly.
Speaker 1What did you say?
Speaker 2You're like, i don't know what I said. I'm 11 right now.
Speaker 1Yeah, Oh yeah, it just had a nice ring to it.
Navigating the Writing Process
Speaker 2Yeah, so that I Wanted to talk about like writing. We we touched on writing process a little bit last episode, but we didn't actually get into the The grimy, the nitty gritty the nitty gritty, what. Why don't you? well, let me say that I feel like my writing process and Everyone's. Over the years it changes, like as a young comic. You're always like what is the trick, what is the key? You don't really know. There's no formula, so you just try different things and then you change that process over the years. That's been my experience.
Speaker 2Yeah what is a day like for you? walk me through your process and in a day.
Speaker 1I love this question I wake up, i.
Speaker 2Wake up, and that's that I wake up. I'm brilliant, i wake up and.
Speaker 1I wake up and it's just done. Do you mean in terms of like like a day where I'm like I'm gonna write today?
Speaker 2Yes, not how you structure your day, but how you approach that.
Speaker 1Yeah, i mean, i feel like right now I am in a place where I, you know, i've I've been, i've been in LA for this month and it's like the intention was to like be here and just like really reset and get some new writing done. And I Think, in a lot I've been, i've been a little, i've been a little blocked these days, like I feel like I, i Every day I'm like, okay, i'm gonna write today, and then I like go to a coffee shop or I go and sit down, and it's just like I just don't do it.
Speaker 2Yeah, I just don't do it.
Speaker 1I don't know. I like I, i'm like I can't. I Don't know what I want to write about right now. Yeah, i mean that's such. Yeah, right, no, no, no, like I, i And sometimes I can get past that right, and sometimes it's like you get past that that moment and you Get into a flow and you're able to get stuff out, but, like Recently, i haven't been feeling that.
Speaker 2Sure.
Speaker 1I.
Speaker 2Think that's such a relatable thing for so many comics. I think it is always a Valley and peaks and sort of Creative process. It's hard to force. You can structure it, which will help. Yeah, it's hard to force and I feel like every time a new comic has asked me What my process is throughout the years, my answer is always what you just said. It's always like I don't write enough. They're like how do you write? I'm like I don't write enough.
Speaker 1That's not really, you know, it's funny that we I think that that's the majority of people's experience Mm-hmm, yeah, because it's so hard Yeah the blank piece of paper like Yeah, taking that and knowing what's going to be funny.
Speaker 2Sorry, i keep cutting.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, no, no, um, i Think that like for me right now, it's also this thing of like I think I'm thinking too big picture about, about Writing, and like the next step, because it's like I just taped this hour special, which is like The material. It's from across. You know six or seven years of writing, and I think I'm like a little bit in my head about like, okay, well, what's the next hour? Gonna, what do I want that to look like and feel like and what do I want like the themes to be? and I think I'm just like Think it's, like it's a little bit. I can't, i'm not gonna know that until, you know, a year from now, when I have it like it's, i think I just need to like Start small and just be like, well, what's the thing that like I want to write about today? What's like interesting To me, what's like a story that I want to tell, or like where is my what? what, what's a topic that I want to just like meditate on today?
Speaker 2Yeah, because otherwise the teams will come.
Speaker 1Yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll come out naturally, i think. But I think it's just like I'm I'm a little bit paralyzed by the big picture, yeah. Yeah yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2I mean it's it's a daunting task, but I think you're Yeah, i think you're right to like Understand that it's not. You don't need to think about how Your joke is. You're your sets gonna be cohesive in an hour or whatever, how these themes are gonna relate to.
Speaker 2You're just gonna write about your interests and then, naturally, those themes will present and Mold together and the material will shape itself in that way, yeah, yeah much like your hour did, but I think you'll experience something very different in this next hour, where you will be able to get it done in a year and it will be better than your seven years of material was. I think you'll find that, because of how much you're working, you know you weren't working like this for the In terms of like quality stage time for the last six years. Yeah, it's very different the way that that that material will develop exponentially.
Speaker 1That's true, but I think that, like there's I also think that and I feel like we've talked about this a lot on here Just about like the idea that you have to be able, you have to be willing to take big risks, and there's jokes that I've been doing that, i have been holding onto that and I'm just so tired of them, and they were fine.
Speaker 2You hate them. You start to hate them.
Speaker 1I hate them. I feel so resentful towards the jokes.
Speaker 2Yeah, you hate that, it works.
Speaker 1I hate that. It makes me feel so full of self-hatred when they come out of it. When I walk off stage, i'm like well, I did that, but that didn't feel good at all. So I don't know. I think that that's probably a common experience too. I think that you've expressed that.
Speaker 2It's a common experience in any comedian who is not a hack, because a hack it just goes whatever this is great, this feels good and an artist goes no, it doesn't matter how hard they're laughing. I've done this a thousand times. I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, but it's so scary to start from scratch.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, comedy's hard, kids. Don't try it at home. Or you should try it at home, like I did, living with my parents. Hit it.
Speaker 1Hit it. That was me doing symbols. That was me doing the symbols at the end of a joke. Ba, ba ba.
Speaker 2Ba, ba, ba, Cha, cha cha.
Speaker 1Cha cha, cha, ba, ba, ba ba. I'm loving it.
Speaker 2You should do some more drums for Clinton to sample.
Speaker 1Ba ba ba Ba ba ba ba Ba ba cha ba cha ba cha ba cha cha cha cha changes, turn the beat around.
Speaker 2Turn the beat around. Yeah, that's not the David Listen. So, uh-oh, it's going in the quarter jar.
Speaker 1Oh, i said, listen, it's going in the quarter jar.
Speaker 2Here's something that I really wanted to talk about is you know how Sheila likes to troll and she likes to make fun? Well, what's one of her favorite topics to make fun of me for?
Speaker 1Um. What does mommy like? to make fun of you for Yes tattoos She likes to. Tattoos She likes to make fun of you for your tattoos because she's horrified that you've marred the beautiful body that she created, that she birthed out of her. How dare you ruin?
Speaker 2Don't say birth like that.
Speaker 1Well, that's the truth. You were birthed out of her. You were, were you not?
Speaker 2I don't know, maybe I was Sorry, did you?
Speaker 1come out of daddy's butthole.
Speaker 2Don't. What are you doing? No, I didn't come out of daddy's butthole. Why did I repeat it? I love how that made you laugh so hard, Yeah it did.
Speaker 1It made me laugh. You couldn't even get it out. I thought of it in my head and I was like this is going to be gross and funny.
Speaker 2So so mommy doesn't like your tattoos, Nor does she like the greater world's tattoos, right?
Speaker 1She doesn't like tattoos.
Speaker 2She's constantly making fun of, and she was on one talking about tattoos, and So she starts to do an impression of somebody presumably getting tattoos and explaining why they get tattoos. She said suffer and celebrate, suffer and celebrate. Look at my arm, look at my thighs, look how tough I am, suffer and celebrate What. I guess that's the theme she thinks people want.
Speaker 1I mean, that's so poetic.
Speaker 2They're like look how tough I am. It is suffer and celebrate. And I told her. I said, what if I got that tattooed on me Because it made me laugh so hard?
Speaker 1Yeah, because, literally, like, anyone will say a phrase or you'll get an idea and you'll be like, oh, what if I get that tattooed on me? And everyone's like, yeah, that would be funny. And then you do it, yeah, wow, then you do it, yeah.
Speaker 2I'm going to get a gummy bear getting fished by my shark, so Getting fished. I asked I'm on one today. Yeah, you certainly are Getting fished. I said what if I got that tattooed? And she said I'd kill myself because I gave you the idea.
Speaker 1Wow, god, that's dark.
Speaker 2Suffer and celebrate.
Speaker 1Suffer and celebrate. That should be the name of your next album, though That's a really good album title.
Speaker 2Oh, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1That should be the name of your CrowdWork album.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh, which is a great segue into. I wanted to ask you what you like is two part question What you like out of your openers since this is kind of headlining is new to you now. in the last year you haven't really had openers prior. So, what do you like out of an opener, both onstage and offstage?
Speaker 1in the brain room When they give me compliments. I like when they give me compliments and treats Treats. Just kidding, i am.
Speaker 2And sorry, two parter, how do you feel about CrowdWork, Because a lot of people talk about how it affects the dynamic of the show. A lot of headliners don't like it.
Speaker 1A lot of headliners don't like it. I don't mind it when openers do CrowdWork, i mean I feel like Sometimes I think it's nice because it opens up the room in a way that I can engage with. It's like getting when someone before me gets to know the audience a little bit. It's like there's stuff that I can then play off of. But when someone does too much it can be problematic because then you get up on stage and it's like they want the crowd, then They want only crowd work.
Speaker 1They want only crowd work. It's a strange. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2And yes, And it's interesting because the people, the headliners that don't like it. I've heard a lot. one of the criticisms is that they don't want to have to watch the whole show. A lot of people like to decompress in the green room and do their own thing, go through their own routine, And if somebody before you is doing a ton of crowd work and then you go out there and you're like, what do you two do?
Speaker 1And they're like we just talked about it, the whole audience, yeah.
Speaker 2And then you look like an idiot. But you, not you. you're out there, peathing.
Speaker 1I'm out there creeping and peeping. I'm out there creeping and peeping. No, i like to. I mean, i like to watch the show, i like to feel what the like. For me it feels really important, at least at this point, to feel what the energy of the room is before, because it's like, yeah, i don't like the idea of going out cold and not knowing what's come before, like that's yeah that's very stressful to me. How do you feel about it?
Speaker 2Yeah, especially if the no, the exact same. Like if, especially if the crowd's really really bad or rowdy, like you need to know about that So you can like adjust your game plan going in And sometimes, like, if a crowd is insane and drunk, like you can't really open with material because they're not paying attention, and you have to know that and you have to be ready to like I don't know, make fun of somebody in the room in the audience who's being stupid or something Like find something that's happened Like you talked about, like to play off of the comic before you And, like you know, with me it's like we're siblings. So like it's definitely, like probably crucial when I am before you for you to really pay attention and like you know, because you know my jokes, so you don't know if, like, i might not do a joke.
Speaker 1Yeah, there's some jokes that, like I do, that I often will reference something that you talked about right before, and if you don't do that joke, then it's like, oh well. Or if you do it and I don't you know yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, what a treat for you that you get to learn from me set after set.
Speaker 1Oh God, I mean, I am. I am thanking my lucky stars. What do you like? What do you like in an opener? What Go ahead?
Speaker 2What do you like in an open? I like somebody who is it's it's way. it's funny because I always was taught this early on, but I didn't really understand it that it's way more important how they act offstage than how they act onstage, And not to say that they're how they do onstage is very, very important, but it's a little bit more important how they are to be around, because if you can't hang out like it's such a stressful when you have to be around them all the time, like if it's a weekend.
Speaker 2It's the whole weekend. You're like, you're basically like living with this person. So, yeah, that's very important, I think. I think somebody who is not going to react to the way that I did in my early years when things go wrong, I like what I look for is the opposite of how I was when I was a new comic.
Speaker 1So I want new comics to not be how I was, someone who doesn't make it about them right, where it's like they understand that, like however they did on stage, is like you know. I think that the instinct where, if you open for someone, like early on, and you bomb, you want to go back and be like I'm sorry, i bombed, like I messed it up, i just want you to know that. I know that I did bad.
Speaker 2How bad it was, and that is Not about you.
Speaker 1It's not about you.
Speaker 2It's not about you Yeah, and nobody cares. Everybody's in their own head.
Speaker 1And then you put the onus on the other person to like take care of you and to be like no, no, no, like, let me, let me talk you down. You did great, and that's not a position that anybody wants to be in, especially somebody who is like is going through their own insecurities Is above you. Is going, but is also like going through their own stuff where it's like you know, doing an hour or doing 45 minutes to an hour.
Speaker 1Like you're thinking about your own insecurities and your own, like what went right, what went wrong, like you shouldn't have to, like you know, walk someone down from that.
Speaker 2Hold their hand, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, It's exhausting And it's like, yeah, it's so crazy when you see it. A good example we talk about Hannah Youngholm a lot. She's a good example of what you should be like. Like she never, never made Shayna too, who you have opened for you a lot.
Speaker 1Yeah, shayna Rabani, i've had opened for me the past couple of weeks and is just like such a like, so so funny, so like lovely and wonderful Both of these comics.
Speaker 2So funny Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, Just like just.
Speaker 2I don't mean to put there like, yeah, offstage, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 1I mean that's also like important, that like it's a person who can kind of like open up a room and actually has like good jokes, Like you know, like I feel like I love working with both of them so much.
Speaker 2Yeah, who are your top two least favorite people you've had open.
Speaker 1That's a great question, Let me. Let me get into it. I'm gonna name names, I feel like, and I won't, I won't. I won't say any specific details about this, but we had someone recently because when we do, when we co-headline, it's like a host feature who just like got on stage and just did like everything wrong, right, Like didn't, didn't know our names, didn't know who to bring up, Like didn't know, like mixed up all the credits and then did like a really kind of like like hateful racist set.
Speaker 1And they were just like, okay, this is, you're literally, this is like by the book, like every, you did every single thing wrong.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, yes, and seasoned to about a decade into comedy.
Speaker 1Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2That's. That's the thing that the person was so nervous. And then they were like, oh, i'm a decade in it. I was like what?
Speaker 1Yeah, why are you nervous? There was, there was some, there was some weird stuff going on there, yeah.
Speaker 2But we don't want to focus on all that negativity. No no no, no, no, no. Well, great, i think we're running out of time. We had a few more things we want to talk about. We'll just push it to the next one.
Upcoming Shows and Patreon Changes
Speaker 1We'll just push to the next one, and yeah. Yeah, we have. We have some fun shows coming up that we'll be in Pittsburgh together July 14th and then Grand Rapids at the end of July, bloomington in August. It's all in the outro. But yeah. Come on out to those shows.
Speaker 2They'll be fun. Come out, yeah, and we're gonna. We don't, the details are still in the works, but eventually we're gonna be switching. Should we talk about this? yet The Patreon stuff? We don't really know. We don't have details yet.
Speaker 1Yeah, we can hold off and talk about it when we have the details.
Speaker 2But do you want to share it now? Okay, No, eventually we're just we're shifting things around, but it's gonna be great, we're mixing things up. We're gonna mix things up, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1The point is join the Patreon.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1That's the point.
Speaker 2That's the. That's really the point.
Speaker 1That's really the point. Ah, all right, all right, all right, great stuff. Great stuff, have a great day. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.