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From the Vault #2 Dark Cloud (PS2) – [2023 Archive]
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From the Vault is our series where we revisit and re-release older episodes from the podcast archive. This previously unreleased episode was recorded back in 2023 and is now finally seeing the light of day.
In this episode, we explore Dark Cloud on the PS2—covering its gameplay systems, what makes it memorable, and how it holds up today.
Welcome back, everybody. Today we're going to be talking about Jared's pick Dark Cloud on the PS2. But first, I want to welcome a very, very special guest. Um, if you've listened to any of the old podcasts in the past, you've definitely, definitely heard me bring his name up a few times for sure. Uh, we're here with my other cousin, not Jared, Mr. Corey Hopeck. How are you doing?
SPEAKER_00Welcome to the podcast. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. Cue the audience cheer.
SPEAKER_01I'm about to edit that in just like I did for Jeff.
SPEAKER_00It's good to be here, guys. I mean, you know, I've listened to you guys pretty much since day one, and you know, I made a little cameo back a couple seasons ago. Oh, I remember that.
SPEAKER_02What what episode was that? I kind of remember, but I don't remember the exact episode.
SPEAKER_01River King and Wonderful Journey.
SPEAKER_02Was it? Out of all the fucking episodes, River King.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know, because I I was over Corey's house at that time because my internet was out for whatever reason. I'm like, Corey, I need to record this with uh Carter and Jared. I'm like, let me come over and use your uh your internet. And then I was sitting in his back room, and right before we recorded, I'm like, would you want to be on the podcast? Because I he was a huge fan of the podcast, and he's like, Yeah, absolutely. I was like, okay, well, I'll let you do the honors of spinning the wheel. And then he came back there and made a little cameo, and then it landed on another 10 out of 10 game, Perfect Dark, from Jeff Elkins. I recall that specifically. That was a rough patch for podcast games.
SPEAKER_02Well, I just love the fact that a little like secret about River King is like it's it was one of our probably top three, maybe top two worst games, but Carter still fucking plays it. Like, well, send us pictures like out of the fucking blue of him like on it. Like he secretly loved that shit.
SPEAKER_01He really does. Unfortunately, Carter's not here today, though. We tried to get him on, but he's busy with stuff right now. And Jeff, where is he? He's on vacation right now with his family. Yeah, he's at a hotel.
SPEAKER_02Somewhere probably close to you all.
SPEAKER_01Right. But yeah, yeah, that that was um primarily why I wanted to bring Corey on because we landed on Dark Cloud and we're rebooting the podcast, and I told him what game we were on, and uh he immediately was like, Oh, I think I own it, but Corey, you you couldn't find it, right? Like you went in your back room and looked for it.
SPEAKER_00I I could have sworn because I mean you guys know I'm a big retro game collector. I've got you know a bunch of stuff, and I could have sworn when I back a while back I bought a big PS2 collection. I could have sworn that was in that collection, but I looked for 20 minutes the other night and I could not find it. So but luckily the PS5's got that classic collection, yeah, and it's on there, so that's how I've been playing it.
SPEAKER_01I think that's how all of us played it, right, Jared?
SPEAKER_02That's how I played it too. I gave Carter my copy of the like physical copy of the Dark Cloud. So hopefully he enjoyed the the bit he got through.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, man, because uh we've we've done a a number of interviews. We did one with Dave Mathis, we won we did one with uh Caleb Cook. And was there anyone else, Jared? Or was those the only two that we did?
SPEAKER_02Dude, I hate to feel like we're missing somebody. I thought there was a third one. But I remember I remember Caleb Cook on the Mario. Dave was terrible audio quality over the phone.
SPEAKER_01And then uh Caleb Cook was on the Super Mario Bros. 3, and then Corey had that brief little cameo. But that was what I was gonna say is we always have had like a top five listener and supporters, like right Corey is right there, he's at the top, right alongside like Dave, Terry, Marcus, um, Anthony, all those guys, and that's why I was just like, I really want Corey on like a full podcast because he's been listening to us since day one. In fact, Corey, I don't know if you remember this, and I want to see if you do remember this. Whenever we recorded the first every episode, Back to Nature, that night, Jared, whenever you put like this the raw, unedited clip of it, I immediately I was excited about it, but I was also very, very cringed out because at the time I hated listening to my voice. So I sent it to Corey and my cousin Brandon because they rode together like to and from work. And Corey, do you remember listening to that before the podcast was even released? Like I sent you that and you like listened to the whole back to nature episode.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember I live I've honestly I think I listened to it twice. Because I mean, I for you guys it was probably you know like real cringy, it was new, but to me I enjoyed it because I mean, like I said, I'm into this stuff, and you know, especially people I know making a big podcast, I was like, heck yeah, I'm gonna get behind that and support them and stuff.
SPEAKER_02We appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Because I there for a while, um, like quickly after we our podcast picked up a bit of like steam and stuff, we looked back, and those earlier episodes were the ones getting the most downloads, and me and Jerry was like, ugh, do we really want those episodes to still be up? So we kind of made a decision and we removed those first three. Yeah, because they were still I still hate you for that.
SPEAKER_00I still hate you both for that. With me, it was I enjoyed it. I thought that was great. I mean, I granted, yeah, you can tell the difference from those first, you know, four or five episodes to later down the line as far as quality and and repetition and stuff, but like a little short funny story for me is uh back when I think Yans might have had four or five episodes out at that point, and I had to go to Gatlinburg to get with my wife and stuff to enjoy the I think three or four days of vacation after work. And Tanner knows this, but I hate driving like big cities in the interstate. I can't stand it. I have bad road rage, I can't handle it. So I got the bright idea. I was like, well, I'm gonna leave at like one o'clock in the morning and go down there then, dodge as much traffic as possible. So I literally on repeat listened to those four or five episodes from my house to about two and a half hours to Gatlinburg. And I still remember to this day and I loved it. Like I it it was great. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01But um, like everyone else though, Corey, we always ask a bit about our guests' like background with games, and I'm your cousin, I know a lot of it at this point, but uh where you're in between me and Jared and Carter in terms of age. You were born in '95, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. You're a little bit older than me, but not quite as old as not as ancient as Jared and Carter. So like uh tell me a bit about like how your gaming history started and like that kind of stuff. Like, what was your first system?
SPEAKER_00Well honestly, it's really kind of weird for me because growing up, I mean, I never had a lot of money, you know. My dad was a coal miner, so he was in and out of jobs and stuff. So I never really had a whole lot of money to get a system. But I remember bits and pieces in my young childhood. I would go to my cousin Cody's house in Oceanna, and he had a PS1 and Nintendo 64. And I remember all the time we would play Crash Bandicoot. I loved Resident Evil, but I wasn't allowed to play it when my mom and dad was there. But anytime they wasn't there, I was playing that. And I'd play like Super Mario 64, uh Mario Kart 64, stuff like that with him. And then uh probably a couple years later, finally, and I got um my dad bought me my first actual system that was mine was the PS2. I'll never forget I had Jack and Daxter as the first game I ever had. And me being like seven years old, I could not get past like the first 15 minutes of that game, and it pissed me off. But um that was my first system, and at that point I really started getting into it. I was like, okay, I really like playing video games and stuff, and slowly, you know, I'd get I had my PS2 for a long time, I had a GameCube for a little bit, and then 360 stuff like that. And then honestly, I'd always wanted to be like have that old the stuff I didn't get to play as a kid because you know it was outdated, you know, it wasn't around for me. And honestly, you guys starting up this podcast finally made me decide he's like, you know what, you know, I'm I'm an adult, I make my own money, I'm gonna do something I've wanted to do my whole life. I'm gonna start getting these old games, have my collection, and play stuff I didn't have a chance to play growing up, but you know, because of money is stuff. And that's basically it though. I mean, I've been playing since five years old up until now, almost 30.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know, because you were there with me a lot of the times, and I I recall you always being more the like Sony guy, like whenever we were growing up, you were always the PlayStation guy, and I was always the more the Nintendo guy because I had the GameCube, you had the PS2. I would go over your house and I would watch you play games that I couldn't play because you were a bit older than me, like uh San Andreas, Bully, and you were also more like this will appeal to Jared into the uh like football side of things, like sports, which here recently now that's what I'm starting to get into. So are you excited for the new college football game, Corey, that's coming out?
SPEAKER_00That's a college football game that's never going to come out. Is that what you're talking about? I'm also tired of getting cockteas for that game. I've been waiting for 10 years, and I won't believe it until it sits on that shelf and I can go to the counter and purchase it.
SPEAKER_02Tanner, let me tell you this. This is how fucking old the most recent college football game is. Okay. I worked for Shorter's Carpet Care the last time the most recent NCAA football game came out. And I remember this specifically because we cleaned a fucking business's carpets in the middle of the fucking night per their requests, and I walked over to Walmart after to get the fucking game off the shelf, like after midnight the day it came out. That was 2013, but it was NCAA 14. Ten years ago. I've been a fucking teacher for four years. I went back for a fucking doctorate degree, and I've worked for three to four years since the fucking most recent NCAA football came out. If that gives you any idea of how long it's been.
SPEAKER_01I know. And you two actually still go back to that version, don't you? Like they update the rosters and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_00They do, but the way you play it with the best way to play it nowadays, honestly, is if you have like a gaming PC, something that can run a lot of specs. There's these mod stuff you can download and get it's kind of difficult, but once you learn how to do it, it's not bad. And that's how I play it. Now I do have a copy of it on the 360, but when I play it now, I play it on the PC where I have all the updated rosters and uniforms and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02Me and Carter kind of jailbroke it, but like uh to run it like a revamp version. But it I I mean, you can still get the rosters even without revamping or jailbreaking. We played on PS3, but it's been probably two years since we've done like an online dynasty. But I could do that shit regardless. Hell, if if you all said, hey, Jared, uh, we got a copy of NCAA 2003 that we're about to do a dynasty with. Uh D1N. We plan on going about 10 years before we give up. Are you in? I'm like, God damn, I will quit my fucking job for that shit right now.
SPEAKER_01I'm uh your love for drafting and sports was made clear by the backyard baseball draft after. We know all about that shit. And I I'm starting to love it too. But yeah, I can't wait for it whenever it does eventually come out. Hopefully it comes out fucking soon. So, Corey, like we said, you're a fan of the podcast. What has been your favorite game that we've played, and what has been your least favorite game? Because if you try as much as you can to play along with us every single game, um what what so far? What has been your favorite and your least favorite?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I've I I've tried to play most. I mean, there's been a few I've not either able to get my hands on or something to come up by I wasn't able to play. Um my I guess I'll start my least favorite. My least favorite was probably, I mean, it's obvious as Lester and likely. Um that game was I tried and tried to play that game, and it just it wasn't happening. I I mean I still have it on for the SNES, but I won't touch it again.
SPEAKER_01Um it uh sealed, sorry, but one it sealed in the fucking box for the giveaway.
SPEAKER_00Lucky man. But my as far as my favorite goes, that's tough. Honestly, I I'd probably have to give it to Chrono Trigger with for that one. It'd probably be Chrono Trigger because that game was for it to be as old as it is, that game had me. I could go back and play it again right now. Like with no problem, no issues whatsoever.
SPEAKER_02That is a classic JRPG, man. Shout out Terry Bragg on that.
SPEAKER_00I'll give the honorable mention though to Ocarina of Time because that was one of those games that growing up I never owned, never had the chance to play. So when we played it, when you guys played on the Plockest, that was the first time I ever played the game, and that that's right there close second.
SPEAKER_02I was fucking glad we did that just because I finally beat it. Like I did grow up with the game, got it early on in its release, and was just too ass scared of video games to beat it.
SPEAKER_01Was that your first Zelda game you ever beat?
SPEAKER_02Uh no. I think I beat two more before then. I think I beat the remake of Link's Awakening, which was Brian Carter special. And I think I may have beat Breath of the Wild before we did that.
SPEAKER_01Okay, okay. I wasn't sure because I remember forever I was just like, how the fuck have am I younger than you? And I beat Ocarina of Time like three times at this point. Like when we got to look, I've never beat this. I'm like, what?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there was a few, like, like I don't beat Zelda's. Like, you know me, man. If I can't, I don't know, I'm weird, man. Either I'm a thousand percent in or something knocks me out, and then I'm fucking done with it.
SPEAKER_00I got a question for you, it's because uh I've been I'm kind of curious more than anything, but like um it's been a little bit, so is there anything like recent, like big purchases you made as far as games, like old school, new school, whatever? I think Jared has one that's pretty big.
SPEAKER_02Well, I know Corey's got this too. I got the new Harvest Moon remake, which is because due to licensing and the splitting of the companies and all that bullshit, it's story of seasons, a wonderful life. But that's like the classic. I don't want to say anything because I always say like this is the best Harvest Moon. But like, if according to the creator of Harvest Moon, I don't have his name in front of me. I botched it on the podcast the first like recording around.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But like, due to that, like according to that dude, a wonderful life is the closest he ever got to like his 100% like vision of what the game should have fucking been. So this is the remake, revamped version of the best of what this game should have been. And I'm having a fucking blast with it, which I always do, man. You give me a fucking farming game that has trophies and an individual like platinum on PlayStation, I'm sold.
SPEAKER_01Like, sign me the I bought the same thing last week, and I've been loving it too, but I got the Switch version because me and Corey were texting each other. I'm I went it my I my birthday just passed, and my dad wanted me to meet him somewhere in Kentucky. That's about a two and a half hour drive, maybe three. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna go get story seasons today while I'm on my way. I show up to one game stop, sold out. Another game stop sold out. And then I was like, could you check the computers for me? And they're like, Man, it's sold out everywhere.
SPEAKER_00No way, that blows my fucking mind. Oh, it looked nowhere, dude. Like, even like on the Tennessee side, I looked and called like four or five different places and could not I found it one time. I found it one time about 45 minutes away from where I live. I went in, yeah, asked for it, and he's like, Yeah, I think I got a copy for the PS5. Well, he got to pulling out a bunch of different drawers, and I could see that there was a deluxe edition for the Xbox One, uh-huh, but he's like, I can't find the PS5, and he said, Well, it turns out it's boxed up in one of these boxes, somebody ordered it online. I'm like, Are you serious? So I ended up just going on Amazon and ordering the deluxe edition for the Switch and PS5 on that. No, yeah, dude, you could not find it in stores.
SPEAKER_02That blows my fucking mind because I had it I it from the fucking announcement, I had it pre-ordered on Amazon, and I'm like you, I got the PS5 version and the Switch version, and I was like, hell, the Switch version I will keep fucking sealed just for my upstairs game room. Like that's going on the top of the Harvest Moon, like shelf.
SPEAKER_01The shrine, the Harvest Moon shrine up there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's I did the same thing. I'm looking at it right now, and it's just it's up there just just for like it's visuals because I'm all about the PS5 to get the trophy.
SPEAKER_01Well, I I copped out because there were some copies at Walmart of the Switch version, not the PS5, just the Switch, and I was like, I'm just getting so impatient. I was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna go ahead and buy it. So I cannot get that trophy access, which I'm I kind of regret a little bit, just a little bit, but I have been playing it in my bed though, quite a bit. Like whenever I'm laying there, it is like the most perfect game to just sit there and chill out and play is Harvest Moon.
SPEAKER_02I mean, where are you all in it? I know this isn't a Harvest Moon podcast.
SPEAKER_00This is Dark Cloud, but well I I played right before I got out back on Dark Cloud today. I I think the last time I logged out, I think I was at day four or five of summer. Um I made some pretty good progress.
SPEAKER_01You're ahead of me, Corey. I'm at I'm at the last day of spring.
SPEAKER_00We're pretty good. I'm almost I'm almost to the point where I can get married. Like I've got the girl that I'm speaking of which, who are we going with? I'm going with Molly. That's the closest thing that looks to my wife, so that's who I always go for.
SPEAKER_02Well, man, I apologize, but I'm probably going for Molly too. Like it's between her and like Celia was her name on like the first one. Yeah, I think they changed, they changed a lot of the names. And I was Muffy. It was yeah, it was Muffy in the original. Molly was Muffy. I think her name on this new one is CC or something, but it was Celia on the first one. I think that's all due to the licensing bullshit between. But I think that's just because like some of those had like licensing trademarks and some of them didn't. I could be wrong. I'm just totally fucking speculating. The worst part is I mean, no more. Yeah, yeah, Wally here. Yeah, I know. He like does some other bullshit like yeah. I I can't even do it anymore. I'm just old Wally. Yeah, but uh it's not Yah anymore. I I can't name changed too.
SPEAKER_01He's Sully now. It's not even Wally.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Sully. Bullshit, man. That's complete bullshit.
SPEAKER_00I'm going after Illumina, though, the chick who lives in the mansion with her grandma. That's how you went for too. I'm pretty sure when we played it, when everybody played on the podcast, that's how you went for too. I know.
SPEAKER_01I think I'm going for her again. That's kind of like the weird option because that was the one that they added later for the special edition on the PS2.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Originally wasn't there. I hate Nami. I knew you were going for uh Molly, and I thought Jerry would be going for Celia, the farmer chick. So I was just like, I'm gonna go alumina.
SPEAKER_02Where I've already platinum the actual like PS2 special version on PS4 slash PS5. Like I know this game like the back of my fucking hand. I have I'm in the middle of summer, like about where Corey is, but I have every girl maxed out hearts. I mean I've even got like every villager, like basically my friend right now. Like that's all I do. It's like I'm a little like I don't know, a little slut in the village, like just flowers all day long.
SPEAKER_01That's how you are with every harvest moon, though. You just run around from person to person with gifts and just get your shit done quick, just snapping.
SPEAKER_02That's it. That's it. That's what I do in the beginning, and then I just kind of trail off.
SPEAKER_00Well, have you got anything? I mean, other than the harvest moon, have you got anything pickups lately?
SPEAKER_01Or got one just yesterday and it was an impulse buy. I was in Walmart after work and I'd I'd naturally just go to the game section and look around, and I was looking at the Switch games, and I bought uh Metroid Prime Remastered. Oh wow.
SPEAKER_00I want that so bad. I just ain't had a chance to get it yet.
SPEAKER_01The only reason I bit the bullet on it was because it's discounted. It's uh $40 instead of $60. So I was just like, okay, yeah, it's it's only $40. So was that originally a GameCube game? GameCube game, yeah, that they remastered. And that's a series I I want to get into so bad as Metroid. And I looked up reviews on it, 10 out of 10's across the board for the remaster. So I was like, okay, if if it's getting this much praise, I'm gonna bite the bullet and see. Yeah, I know. That's why I'm like, I'm gonna see if this is a good game.
SPEAKER_02Dude, I mean, it probably doesn't surprise you, but I've never played a Metroid game.
SPEAKER_01Me either. And that's what Caleb Cook, I told him, I was like, if there was a game that you would want us to play in the future, what would it be? Or I think it was uh I asked him what his favorite game of all time was. Right Super Metroid on the Super Nintendo, it's his favorite game of all time. Right. So I was like, okay, people love that franchise, man. That's it's kind of like a Harvest Moon. It's like if you are into it, you're a diehard fan. You love that series. So on the next podcast, whatever game we land on, uh, I will give you all my thoughts on it. We'll see what I think about.
SPEAKER_02I'm sure it's great.
SPEAKER_01This is gonna date the podcast a bit, but I did want to cover this slightly. Uh, we had one of the best Nintendo Directs ever.
SPEAKER_00Uh God, you're telling me.
SPEAKER_01Uh, and it announced some fucking heavy hitters. One in particular, and this is kind of shaking up. I I want to get Jared's and Corey's thoughts on this. The Super Mario RPG remake.
SPEAKER_02No, I want to get Carter's fucking thoughts on this. I know. That's why I wish he was here.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, God damn it, Carter. This is the game that you jack off to daily, and we can't talk about it.
SPEAKER_02You know what's hilarious is like I have that game, like the SNES version. I've had it since it came out. My dad like randomly bought it for me because it was a Mario game, and I fucking hated it as a kid because I didn't get how RPGs worked. I couldn't get past like the first little after you fight Bowser in the first castle and you first like discover like whatever the hell you're doing. I couldn't get past it. So Like that game always sat in my collection until like about the third or fourth grade when I moved to West Virginia, met Matt Carter. I like was in I don't know, I'm fucking weird. I was infatuated with the way like blockbuster and like game rental places work. So I tried to create my own fucking business between my friends of like renting out fucking games. I called it JJ's Rentals.
SPEAKER_01No fucking way. You never told me this.
SPEAKER_02Oh, really? You don't know this. No. Well, this was called fucking JJ's Rentals in like 1998 or 99. And like I would like advertise my fucking games by like drawing them on a sheet of paper and like handing them to my friends. Like, how do they want to fucking rent these games? And like Carter was the I'm pretty sure Carter is the only successful fucking rental I had in which he rented Super Mario RPG from me. He paid a quarter or something like that in like 98 to like rent it for like a week. And he fucking loved it. And like because he loved it years later, I was like, well, hell, if Carter had a good time with it when we were eight, surely I'll get it now that we're 15 or something like that. And then I fucking went back and I was like, damn, this was fucking good. How did I not get this shit like as a kid?
SPEAKER_01I know. It's it's just that initial getting over the RPG elements and then that that RPG element had me fucking stunned back then.
SPEAKER_02I just didn't understand how to work it. I think Pokemon's what got me over the hump on that.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, I think that is the absolute perfect thing to introduce someone to an RPG. Yeah. Super simple, and people love like the catch em all aspect, so that is that's perfect. But I was gonna ask, since this uh it's coming out on November 17th, um, in the future for new seasons, should I still pick the original Mario RPG?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, let's play it through. I will fucking play that right now and then I'll play the remake.
SPEAKER_00I believe I bought the game back when I first started buying games after the podcast started because I got lucky and I seen it at a used old school game store, and I got a pretty good deal on it, and it's been on the shelf just waiting to be picked. Okay, I'm gonna keep that in mind.
SPEAKER_01Uh Mario RPG. Uh this was primarily like the fucking Matt Carter direct though, because they did uh the Metal Gear Solid volume one collection.
SPEAKER_00Don't get me started on that. I'm so upset about that. Don't get me wrong, okay. I'm I like I want I've that's a game like for me with you guys with Metroid, I've never played Metal Gear Solid. So I want to get that so I can experience to see if I like it. But I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for Capcom to say, all right, guys, Resident Evil 1, 2, and 3. And like why? Why? Why does Capcom do this to me? I don't understand.
SPEAKER_01I know, and like, because the volume one of the Metal Gear Solid collection comes with the first three games. It's uh Metal Gear 1, 2, Sons of Liberty, and 3 Snake Eater. Um what Jared, what would volume two be? Like just four and five, maybe?
SPEAKER_02Or I think they could have maybe one or two older ones that they missed. But yeah, that's that's all I could think of is like four and and maybe that one like little pre to five. I forget what what even that's called.
SPEAKER_01Because I know that this one even comes with those shitty NES ones too. So they're they're not even leaving those out. The fucking the remember the metal, it's just called Metal Hill.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think there was maybe a Game Boy one randomly. See, Carter fucking missed the episode, and he could fucking spill this shit off like it's nothing. I think there's also a PSP one that he would probably go nuts for, like Peace Walker that they missed on this. There's a couple of like small entries to the series that could be on this, but yeah, you're right. I don't know. I'm dumbfounded like on what you could throw into a volume two.
SPEAKER_01And there was one, this is classic podcast shit, and this is why I wish Carter was here because his reaction to this, you could just tell he was fucking fully erect when this came on the screen. Was Dragon Quest Monsters The Dark Prince. I'm like, what is the fucking odds that they're releasing the game that he just added on the fucking podcast wheel? I mean, that happens every single season, but it's ridiculous. Like, who has thought of this game in 20 years?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that is what like we always joke, like power of the pod, but literally, when we get a podcast and we like talk about a game, a fucking remake comes from the devil's asshole. Like, I don't know how the hell shit gets pulled out of nowhere. Like, you think no, if you really go back and like look at like if you all had access to like recording dates of this podcast, we have no clue that half this shit's coming out. Like, one of them that pops up to me is fucking Glover. We did a Glover episode, and then all of a sudden, like Xbox is like, yeah, we're gonna release re-release Glover.
SPEAKER_01Literally, no one has thought about that game since it came out.
SPEAKER_02But there's several of those. That's not just the only little Wonderful Life. A Wonderful Life is a prime example. Um, Dragon Warrior Monsters, Monster Fucking Rancher. That game had not been talked about or done in years. And like, that was one of my favorites. That's a classic. We put it on the podcast. Guess what? Two three two, three weeks later, they announce hey, we're gonna re-release uh Monster Rancher on Switch. Like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_01It's insane, dude. And like, I don't know, that makes me want to really reconsider my picks for in the future for games that I want to see come back. Uh but yeah, there's just a lot of shit. The Luigi's Mansion 2 remake, Pikmin 4, the new like 2D Mario game that Carlos of Super Mario Bros. Wonder, which looks fucking bonkers crazy, but it looks amazing. Detective Pikachu 2, just a lot of good stuff. That was an amazing direct. Yeah, and that like I said, that's probably gonna date the podcast just ever so slightly, but I always want to cover that stuff just to see how we feel about it. So, yeah, boys, I mean, do y'all want to go ahead and uh hop in the dark cloud here and talk a little bit about it?
SPEAKER_00Let's do it. Let's do it. All right.
SPEAKER_01First thing I know, Jared, you said I'm pretty sure you said last this is another one of them games you have no idea where the fuck you got it or the context or whatever.
SPEAKER_02No, no, I've got like a tiny like tidbit of history with it, and it's it's very short, but I can literally remember the this is one of those games that I literally was at my dad's house on a weekend. Like my mom and dad were divorced. I would stay with him like every other weekend. He would take me to like a video slash game rental place that was like unnamed. It wasn't Blockbuster, it was some like mom and pop shop. I saw the cover art for Dark Cloud, I would say in 2002 or 2003, knew that that was the game of the weekend, got it, fucking played it for probably 12 hours, got decently far in it, never touched it again until this weekend.
SPEAKER_01The cover is is amazing. Whenever I first seen the cover though, it immediately just reminded me of like a PS2 version of like Zelda, like Link on the cover with the green like tunic hat and the like the elfish like face. And that was one thing I was gonna say. Me going into this game, I had zero idea what it was. I figured it was gonna be sort of like a Final Fantasy IX or Final Fantasy X type where it's like an RPG and like turn-based. I and I purposely wanted to keep it that way. I I didn't really want to know what I was getting myself into, but nothing would have prepared me for what it really was. Dude, I don't know how to even describe what it was. It has like three main things it's trying to do at once that I noticed. It's like one, it's like a Zelda dungeon crawler kind of. It's like you're you're going through like these dungeons and stuff, and it's like and it has similar mechanics to Zelda with the combat, like the lock on, the little item bar with like you can put your items that you find in the in the dungeons. But it's also like a roguelike, which do you all know what a roguelike is? No. That is like a Diablo type of game. It's like uh generated dungeons, like you're going down a level constantly, like you, you know what I mean. Every time you re-enter a level in this game, it's completely randomly generated. So it's a bit like that, and then also for whatever reason, it's a city builder.
SPEAKER_00Well, I tell you, like I was telling you last night, Tanner. That's why I say it's to me, it's like you took Zelda and Fable and had a baby because I don't know how if you guys have played Fable much or any at all, but there's aspects to Fable that it's not so much that you build cities, but like choices you make affected, especially affect your city or affect your kingdom. I mean, that's a story for another time for Fable, but that that gives me a lot of Fable vibes as well.
SPEAKER_02That's like to me, this game didn't know what it wanted to be, and that's kind of like after playing it again, that's in my like negative part of the review because there were several fucking things. Like you've mentioned a lot of it, but also every now and then randomly, there would be like a rhythm aspect and like a battle where you gotta like press X circle up on the right stick, diagonal on the left stick, like in a rhythm, and then that whole fucking city building aspect with a fucking chance to walk around the town with a working clock. That's the Harvest Moon Natsumi aspect that you know I love. Yeah. So, like, I mean, there was just it's like, okay, let's make a game, but let's put every damn like popular thing happening right now in 2001, 2002 in this game. Weapon leveling up, yeah, we want that. Uh city building, oh yeah, we want that. Uh exploring the dungeon, throw it in there.
SPEAKER_01Like whatever. I think it kind of makes it its own thing, though, because like I it did have a pretty addicting gameplay loop. Like you would like go to your dungeon and you would have to explore the entire level to get these little orbs. And whenever you get these orbs, it's like these things that you can add to build to your town. So it could be an actual building of like someone's house, or it could be like decorations that go outside, or it could literally be the person themselves in these fucking balls, and then once you come back out, you you place them in the world, like damn, like uh Fisher Price, like one of them like playmats, and like you have this own little town again, and you're like bringing it back. But I thought it was pretty addicting, like you would go down there, get some stuff, come back up. But the one thing, like you you just said, the weapon durability, god damn. I just like that was one of my biggest flaws about it because you do find these weapons from time to time, but the default dagger that you have, it breaks every like three minutes whenever you go down there. It was just so annoying.
SPEAKER_00Like, well, I'm gonna chime in on that for a minute because me and you were talking about that last night, and I brought it up how it's so aggravating that you'd have you could only acquire one weapon powder. Yeah, powder powder per attempt. You have to go back, talk to that mayor, get it, and then go back in the dungeon. Well, I don't know how far either one of you two got, but after I got to a certain point down in that dungeon, I unlocked, uh, completed the market guys, the seller that of the village. I unlocked him, got his whole place built back up in the city, and after that, I could literally I bought probably 15 of those weapon repairs, all that. I knew I was getting gold.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, when can I ever use this? Because that was what this game I thought needed desperately. It was like a shop that you could stock up and then go in the dungeons.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, once you unlock that shop, it wasn't like go one level, come back, go one level, come back. I was running like three or four levels at a time, and then I'd go back and restock. It was so much smoother once you unlock that shop.
SPEAKER_01That actually sounds so much funner now. I wish I would have got two, because I right before we started the podcast, I got the first unlockable character that you can have that and you can switch between. It's the cat girl. I got her, and I also put the the guy, the shop owner, where he was supposed to be, but I never talked to him before we hit record, so I was like, damn, I wish I would have done that because that completely eliminates that whole uh repair aspect.
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SPEAKER_00Yeah, it made it 10 times easier because I was like, I'd got to that point, I was like, man, how long is this dungeon? You know, I'm you know it's getting kind of annoying going back and back and forth. And then I you know unlocked that shop and was able to buy all that stuff and go back down. Well, it turns out the I don't know if every dungeon's like this for the game because I didn't get to beat it or anything, but at least the first dungeon, because I did complete that, it's 15 levels, and the 15th level is the boss level of the dungeon. And I will say this that boss is hellacious. It took me at least three or four times to beat it. Um I don't know, I want to go back and play this game some more on my spare time and see how far I can get, but if it's any if those next bosses are harder than that, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02That that's the thing about the game, is like what's funny is even back in 2002, 2003 when I rented this, I remember basically as far as I got when I had to either leave my dad's or take this game back, was I got to the next world, which is also exactly where I got during this playthrough. So I don't know much after the first world, but I'm like you, Corey. That first boss, I was like, okay, man, I I was 12 or 13 when I played this last. I'm fucking 32 now. I'm now I'm 33 at this recording. Like, this fucker, like, what the fuck? This is gonna be easy. I got my ass fucking whipped, and I bought I fought that thing for like I would say 60 to 70 minutes, like fighting that, going through all my fucking resources, and then I realized like because like the whole weapon durability, I had just lost like my best sword, like a level or two before this because I wasn't fucking paying attention. So I had to go back through, start at level one, work my way through, get a couple like good swords and start building them up, and then I went and fought the boss the second time, and I whipped his ass in maybe like four or five hits because I I didn't do that.
SPEAKER_00I I did the same thing you did, as I wasn't paying attention. I had a really good sword. I'm like, okay, this is gonna be easy. I lost it, I was mad. Yeah, I was like, Well, I'll I'll try, I'll see if I can do it. I got up to the boss, and the chick that you unlocked, it's like, you know, it's it's a cat that turns into a human. I honestly I I I worked it to a rhythm. I would shoot that boss with her, get that boss to land, and then I would run over to it and just throw a bomb and just keep doing that rinse and repeat. I threw like 30 bombs at that thing, and then once I ran out of bombs, I would literally just go over there, hit it, knock it down, hack and slash one or two or three times, and then rinse and repeat until I knocked it out finally.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and it's so hard to hit once you knock it down because it like almost instantly like moves its legs and hits you from hitting it. But the the cool thing is once I like kind of understood and I leveled up my sword, it literally took me maybe four of those sequences of shooting it down, walking to it, hitting it once, and then like four of those total, and it was done fast. But I didn't get too far in the other world, but like this is a game that I could have like loved as a kid, like building through, building those worlds. It almost has that little metropolis mania feeling from that side.
SPEAKER_01Corey doesn't know what that is. Pick that game, Jerry.
SPEAKER_02Well, me and you, me and you are about the only people listening to this and probably on this fucking planet that knows what Metropolis Mania is.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. It's it is like the city building aspect in this game, but that is the whole game. They like completely made that like its own thing, but it is the funniest game of all time. It's a Natsumi game, too.
SPEAKER_03Which is uh good.
SPEAKER_01You know I forget, but we should have put that on a fucking t-shirt. That was one of Jared's most iconic quotes. Be good, Natsumi.
SPEAKER_00Be good. Which they're still I do have a quote. Did you guys find the little uh I can't remember the boss's name, but it's like a it's called it was the boss's name and it's called a feather. Drain. Did you guys find that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you guys find that? I'm pretty sure I did. That made running through that dungeon ten times quicker. If you lifted it to your top wheel, you could sprint through them freaking dungeons.
SPEAKER_02And and while ago, I forgot I was going to interrupt you, but I like you talking about the weapon breaking. I eventually I had so many coins from just grinding to like level up my old sword from breaking my new one or whatever, that I bought one of the automatic upgrades, and like you just set it in your like one of three items, and if your weapon breaks without you manually fixing it, it will automatically heal it so that shit don't happen.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, I never seen that.
SPEAKER_02No, that Corey's right, that drains feather, whatever changes the whole game. Like that was so slow in those dungeons and barely getting through.
SPEAKER_00And then you fucking for that jog you go through, yeah. Yeah, I once I equipped that, I felt like Sonic the Hedgehog running through there. Like it wasn't nothing that could touch me. I'll just breeze through smack and then take off running it again.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you finally have a run button after that.
SPEAKER_01Did you take advantage, uh Corey or Jared, of the water puddles that you would find throughout the little thing? That guy does get thirsty, but every time that you go in those water puddles, full health. So I would sit there and grind it out. Like if I had a hard enemy in front of me and I had a water puddle next to me, if I took any hits, I'd just run straight to that water puddle and get full health. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00Well, see, I did do that until I unlocked that shop, and then I just unloaded all that currency I had and buying a bunch of water. But another thing, too, that I noticed was after I unlocked that chick that was your like companion, there was like three or four different bosses in that dungeon that she could literally like two-shot. And it made it so much easier. Like those big freaking, I don't know, toads, I guess is what you would call them. Those big fat things that would like shoot that missed. Uh yeah, because you shoot her slingshot and two hits with that, and it's it's dead. And like I was struggling against it so much before that.
SPEAKER_01I'm reading right now about it because I know there's six different main characters in the game, and it says that they have all have their own playstyle. There's three ranged fighters, and then there's three melee, each using a different weapon. It says the melee characters use a variety of blades, hammers, and staves, staves. I've never heard of that. And the ranged characters use magic rings, guns, and slingshots, which I'm pretty sure she's the slingshot chick.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01And uh they said each character also has a unique ability that will help them move through the dungeon. She can uh jump across chasms, and others can unlock certain doors. So that really makes me kind of want to go back to this game and see what it has to offer because we kind of really just scratched the surface a little bit at what this game really is.
SPEAKER_00Like well, speaking of unlocking doors, did you guys ever go through like okay, if when you got to them certain levels in dungeons, did you see like those minecarts that were just sitting there? Yeah, oh yeah. I mean, did you ever go unlock them? You had to use the oil. You had to use the oil, yeah. You had to use the oil. Okay, did Jin's ever go in any of those? Yeah, I did a few times, Quiry. Well, to me, it was the biggest waste of time because I went through at least three of them, and I would clear out the entire backside of those dungeons through those uh minecarts, and it it I didn't get hardly anything like that to me felt worth it. Really?
SPEAKER_02I I got a lot of good stuff on the other side, but the enemies were so damn like they were tougher for sure.
SPEAKER_00Well, see, when I when I started doing those, that's when I was using that feather. So I was literally just running through and I was just grabbing chests and then taking right back off. Like I wasn't even messaging with those freaking enemies.
SPEAKER_01But isn't it how it works though? Is like there's a like once you reach a level, you have to get a key to in order to go to the next level. Isn't there one like random enemy on that level that has the key? So you kind of have to keep fighting everything until you can find it.
SPEAKER_00You have to fight everything until you get the key. Yeah. It's basically RNG because sometimes you can come up to the first enemy you see on that level and it'll drop it, and sometimes it'll be the very last enemy.
SPEAKER_01How did you all like the music in the game?
SPEAKER_00I love the music, honestly. That was one of the other like Zelda vibe type things for me was the music.
SPEAKER_01There's something about this era and this genre, and like you know what I mean, the early 2000s, like action RPG. If you just looking at a cover of a game from this era, I can already tell you fucking banger ass soundtrack. And this was one of those. I seen the Dark Cloud cover, and I'm like, yep, that's gonna have amazing music. And surely enough, it did. Graphically, I think it looked really fucking good too.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, for I mean, for what it was, like, and and to be fair, you know, the PlayStation 2 at the time, it it was pretty good graphics compared to everything else that was out. But one thing to me that I cracked up with was when I loaded up the game before I even started playing, I watched that cutscene where they're like unlocking the big, you know, the dark genie and all that. Those freaking dancers to that music, I was in my chair rolling around. I could not stop laughing. It was the funniest thing I've seen.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know. I I tried my best to follow the story, and it's it's pretty like it's I don't really do you all understand the story at all? Like, do you remember it whatsoever?
SPEAKER_00I mean, yeah, well basically from what I remember, which I remember pretty much of it, you know, it starts out these, like I said, these weird ass dancers, they're doing this ritual dance to unlock this dark genie that's been sealed away for millennia, and they do, they unlock it, and that genie's pretty much got the power to destroy the world and in microseconds from what it says, and then it pans over to the dude that was responsible to unlocking that dark genie, and they destroy well, they thought they destroyed your town, and then the elf, the old man that was like an elf sprite type creature, yeah, um, saves you and everybody else, and then that's when you go starting the dungeons and recollecting your town and village and rebuilding it.
SPEAKER_01Right. He puts everything in these little orbs, and you gotta like unlock them and put them back in the world, kind of thing. Saving the world, rebuilding your town. That's essentially the premise of the game. That little elf guy, Jared, reminded me of your character character in Tanner's Big Adventure. Like, you know how like you would just show up out of nowhere and just talk to me about That's one game core you have to play. Jared made a little RPG where I'm the uh the protagonist. And it is the funniest fucking thing ever. It it is hilarious. One of these days I'm gonna have to try to get it to you somehow.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I like to play that. It's only about a fourth completed, but damn, if I had the completed version.
SPEAKER_01You gotta make Corey at least a character in a village somewhere.
SPEAKER_02Well, honestly, the the whole like premise was in West Virgonia, which is West Virginia. And the whole second half of the game, like, or even maybe even a part two, was supposed to be Canner's Big Adventure in Tennessee Land, which was like sea, like water-based, like Tennessee. Which like I was gonna put like Brewster, Hope, all the like Tennessee guys on that version of it.
SPEAKER_01I want that game to be fucking released already. You and Carter both. Alrighty, boy. I mean, do you boys want to go ahead and get into our scores of Dark Cloud here? Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm ready. That's it. All right.
SPEAKER_01Jared, it's your game. What do you think about this after all these years later?
SPEAKER_02Dude, like I said, I think it like as far as a game goes, if you're into that like early 2000s RPG style game, it's something worth a try if you've never played it before. Like I said, I think it tries to do too much in one game. Like it tries to put its hand in every fucking basket that's a possibility at the time of its like creation. I think it's very repetitive too. That's the only thing, is I'm pretty sure, and we didn't even get that far into it. Like as a whole, I'm just slightly further than you all, and I'm assuming, you know, I've got at least 75% of the game to go, and I don't think it changes too much from what it is at the time that I've played it. I'm saying all the negatives. It was fun. Like I love the aspect. You all know me, man. You you give me some like little people to place in a village, and then I can go and talk to them, and they can fucking give me some dialogue, and I can help them out by switching one thing or the other. I'm all in for that shit. Let me help you, motherfucker. Give me some text, and I will break my fucking back to help your ass. But uh that being said, like overall, I'm gonna say it's probably a solid 6.0. I wouldn't even give it a 6.5 after playing through it again. Like I said, I like I think it's just too repetitive for what it is. It is very unique, it's super unique in the genre it's in, but but that's about it, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'll go after you. I think it's that exactly what you said, it has its hand in everything. I kind of saw more of the positive spin on that. I've never played a game like this. I kind of expected this to be more traditional, Final Fantasy clone, like you know, going through a town, go out, grind with like turn-based combat. But this was very, very unique and it has a lot of content to it. I love that style of game. I love dungeon crawlers like this, and that may be why Carter wants me to buy Diablo so damn bad. I wish he was in here to kind of compare how Diablo is to like how this is because if it's the same sort of thing except better, I would probably be very interested in that because it's very addicting to me. But I I really did like this game a lot. I thought graphically uh it looked really good for basically a launch title. This came out, I think, a year after the PS2 came out, and it looks really fucking good. The music, like we stated, was excellent. There was a few downsides to it. The weapon durability was annoying, but like Corey said, that does get rectified. And at least it's not like Breath of the Wild, where the if the weapon breaks, it's fucking gone forever. It's not, you can literally get a powder and just repair it.
SPEAKER_02Well, no, that's what I was about to bring up. This is like Tanner, Breath of the Wild, Tears of the Kingdom, or whatever. Like, this is you like just crying over those fucking broken weapons. But dude, if you if you don't heal it in time, if you're not fucking paying attention, it is gone forever.
SPEAKER_01I know. Yeah, I th I really did enjoy this game, and this is a game that I would like to go back to. And I know this game has a sequel and it's on PS5 too, Dark Cloud 2, which I'm sure it's better, then it probably fixes a lot of the issues that we have. And I'm I'm like Jared too. I love the town aspect of this. If it was just a dungeon crawler where you come back up to like a home screen of the mayor and go back down, I think I would get a little bored of this, but the town aspect just adds that like Harvest Moon thing that we love, and it adds something unique to the genre.
SPEAKER_02It's very Natsumi, dude. Very natury. It is even the music, the fucking sound effects, like I can feel the font in the game is from a wonderful life. The same font. I can feel save the homeland vibes, which is the PS2 version of Harvest Made.
SPEAKER_01They came out the same year, so they probably use some of the same assets.
SPEAKER_02I'm guaranteed like developers. Like playing this, I feel it, man. I feel it.
SPEAKER_01But uh, I'm gonna give this a 7.0, I think. I think that's where I'm gonna stick with it. I liked it a little bit better than you, Jared, and I want to go back and play it, and I want to play the sequel at some point. I really enjoyed this game. Corey, you can go ahead and give us a score too, and we'll average it out. But how we do it now, because I don't I don't think the Mickey Mouse episode's released yet, and you don't know, we don't really do decimals anymore. We just do like solid numbers and halves. So like 7.0, 7.5. We don't do like 7.7s anymore.
SPEAKER_00So for me, I mean, I'll be honest, like like I said, at first when I was playing it, you know, I locked it and then it started feeling kind of repetitive, and I was just like, man, I don't know about this. But like I said, after I got that merchant unlocked, it was just it was somewhat it's a lot more fun. It was like I could stock up before the adventure ahead. Yeah, I could do it. So to me, I think honestly, if I was, you know, we were able to get a little bit further down the line, I think this game would have probably really expanded and it would have been a lot more than what we know it as of right now. I could be wrong, but I'm gonna base that off of how I feel from what I did experience of it. Um like I said, I didn't have the other too many complaints, and what I did have complaints on, it kind of got nullified. But for me, yeah, I I probably have to go with a 7.5, honestly, because I really feel like that game could have been a lot higher had we got a little bit further into it. For sure, man.
SPEAKER_01So where where were we average at uh Jared?
SPEAKER_02I gave it a six, you gave it a seven. I gave it a seven point five. Six point eight.
SPEAKER_01Hmm. I think that's pretty accurate. It's like basically almost a seven, unique for its time, cool game. You know, I mean it's an early PS2 game, and I I still think it has elements I would love to see in modern games today. I would love to see a dark cloud style game today, like with the stuff we know now and the graphics and all that stuff, like gameplay-wise. I think I've got to be.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think like this game, like if you gave some of these elements, like you mentioned Diablo too. I can't get into Diablo, but if you added this like city building, like on top of the 20 years of gaming, like progress, I think this would be pretty good.
SPEAKER_01Alrighty, 6.8. I'm pretty sure what was Mickey Mouse at a 6.0. So this one is slightly better than that, which it I would agree with that. Mickey Mouse was like kind of a generic platformer for this nest. This is a bit more, definitely a bit more adventurous, and it's trying new shit. So I think it's it's earned. So yeah, we're going to the wheel section. It's not much. We literally only have two games. Uh, we have Carter's game, Dragon Warriors Monster, which is on the Game Boy, and we also have Silent Hill on the PS1. That now that's a game me and Corey are salivating the try.
SPEAKER_00That's a nice chunk of change too.
SPEAKER_01Didn't you say, Corey, you're considering selling some stuff to pick up a copy of it does like that?
SPEAKER_00I've got I've got a 3DS that's like it's a Japanese imported 3DS that somebody gives to me. And I've got some games that I have duplicates of and stuff that I was thinking about taking to one of the local game stores and trading in, and if they by chance have it, then I might use that towards that. Hopefully. Here we go, guys.
SPEAKER_01Three, two, one. Rough wheel sound. Dragon Warrior Monsters.
SPEAKER_02Jared's wish came true. Dude. Well, A, I'm happy because I've actually played this. B, I'm happy because it's not a horror game. And B, I'm happy because I'm about to head to the beach and I'm taking this with me.
SPEAKER_01So, Jared, uh, you know better than me and Corey because I don't know Jack shit about this. What do we have to expect? Is this a Pokemon clone, or like what are we talking about?
SPEAKER_02I wouldn't call it a Pokemon clone. It's Pokemon-esque. But you will have a blast. It's different, it's its own thing. This is Monster Rancher, meets Pokemon, meets all that bullshit. Like, it's it's of its time of where you're a kid who goes through some type of hardship, and what do you know? Here's some like animal slash monster creatures to help you along your way, and you have a fucking blast because you train them, JRPG style. You all will like this.
SPEAKER_01I can't wait. Corey, are you gonna play along with us to this? Because I know this is a bit weird of a game.
SPEAKER_00100%. I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna look and see if I can't find it, and if I can't in the next couple days, I'll probably just try to get an emulator on my phone and play it that way. But either way, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be going along with it for sure.
SPEAKER_02Sadly, this and the second version of this, they released this, and then they released like a version two, which wasn't called two. It had two different versions of itself, like it split. It was called like Kobe's Adventure and maybe Tara's Adventure. Like it had like a C O B I, like a boy version named Kobe, and a girl version named Tara. I could be I could be totally fucking wrong on those names. That's just what I'm thinking of.
SPEAKER_01So kind of like how Harvest Moon used to do it, like another wonderful life. Yeah, yeah. Like kind of like that.
SPEAKER_02Like a girl and boy version. Yeah, like another wonderful life was the girl version. Yeah, exactly. So, but like uh, so this first version, you're a boy. I don't know. I I think it'll be good. I don't want to like go into it too deep till the episode, but I think you all both will enjoy this. I think this might secretly be like a maybe a 8.5, 9.0 from myself kind of game. This will be another goemon? Maybe for sure. Like it's on that Monster Rancher 2 pace of like, holy shit, this is fun.
SPEAKER_01Okay, man. Well, let's get into it. And we know for sure Carter will be back for this because he's been wanting to talk about this game. Maybe since the podcast started. I remember him like kind of mentioning this, throwing it up here and there. It's his game. And uh, Corey, it's been amazing having you on, man. And I want you to have you on more in the future. Because I mean, you were you're natural at this podcast shit, man. You did so much better than I did my first time. I had a panic attack the second time I did a podcast.
SPEAKER_00Well, I appreciate it. No, I mean, this is it's been awesome. This is definitely fun. And yeah, like I've said many times, you guys want me back on. I'll join every episode if you need me. I mean, just whenever you want me on, I'll be there. 100%, man.
SPEAKER_01Thank you so much for coming on, and uh, let's get in the Dragon Warrior monsters. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_03Let's do appreciate it.