Episode 04 - Dino Crisis

In this episode, Tanner, Carter, and Jerad talk about playing Dino Crisis on the PlayStation, sharing their first experiences, the moments that stuck with them, and how it influenced their interest in survival horror games. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Welcome everybody to the Retro Damage Podcast. Today we're going to be talking about Carter's Pick Dino Crisis for the PS1.

SPEAKER_02 0:12

First of all, I wanted to say I hope you all have enjoyed the older episodes we've been putting out, or from the Vault series, as I called it. Did you boys get a chance to listen to the ones that I uploaded yet?

SPEAKER_04 0:22

Yeah. Yeah, I got those long two-hour commutes to work. I've been loving them. That's literally, I guess for me, and I probably for all anyone who's listened to it before, but especially for us where we've recorded them, I forget some of the stuff that I say in those, and I'm like, oh yeah, I remember that conversation we had. I really enjoyed them.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Yeah, the one uh that uploaded was uh Dark Cloud. You weren't even in that episode, Carter. So I'm like, this is gonna be fresh for him.

SPEAKER_04 0:44

I don't think he's gonna be like, Yeah, I never heard no, I never heard that one in my life. So that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

Yeah, that was from one of our many, many attempts to reboot the podcast that we just never uploaded. That's I was like, That's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_04 0:55

Like, there's plenty of podcasts that are like from the vault, and people be like, I've never heard that before.

SPEAKER_02 1:00

Well, new one for me too. It's weird how I've been choosing them. Like, I just like cherry pick them, honestly. I'm just like, what am I feeling today? Am I just gonna get this or that? Like, I I'm not doing it in chronological order or anything. Like, I'm just kind of mixing and matching and just the fun thing about it for me is I love to edit. That's like one of my favorite things about the podcast. So it gives me a chance to go back and fix some of the cringy shit that we say. Or in uh Real Fishing's case, there was a section where Jerry was talking about whenever he first played that game again for the first time, and like that music hit him. And I was just like, what was that damn song? So I had to go to YouTube, look up the first fucking level, listen to the song, then go to some website, track down the specific song in the game, and then add it to what he was talking about. But that kind of shit's me is just fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:45

I love it. That's awesome. Yeah, me too. It's like you're just like, oh, I'm just gonna head on down to the vault, head on down to the archives and browse and Yeah, I think I'll do real fishing.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

At one point, we need to do backyard baseball draft with video. If we get to that point.

SPEAKER_04 2:01

I was gonna say we just released the recording.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

We've got to do it justice, man. Like that that's a good episode. It sucks. 4.5. It sucks audio-wise, but it's a great that was.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

That's why, well, it was a two-part reason why I picked that episode for the first one. One was I love that draft episode a lot, and I was like, this would be a beefy ass episode if I just combine the review and the draft. So this would be a solid little addition. But I mean, I think they're coming out with the like reboot of backyard baseball this summer, right?

SPEAKER_04 2:31

Yeah, totally new. Maybe we do like backyard football or something.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

Yeah. I think the only thing about baseball that makes it a little bit more draft friendly is like where there's nine, like nine, nine, nine, and then we have the the 30 kids. Like, is that possible in the football game? Like how many people, how many kids are on a team?

SPEAKER_00 2:47

That's exactly right. But I think they do like three linemen, two receivers, one running back, one quarterback. So that'd be seven, seven, seven, so we should be okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Yeah, we could still do that. I think that'd be fun.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

They sprinkle in some pros too, I think, in the later games. Didn't they turn the letter ones into all pros? All I know is the game keep version does have Rich Gannon at quarterback, and I know who's gonna take him very early. Tanner.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Oh yeah. I'm the Raiders fan, especially the 2000s Raiders. I got a lot of experience in the game.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

Carve will Carter will take, I about said Carve since you said Favra. Carter will take Gannon 101 1,000%. Or I'll take that kid Pablo Sanchez again.

SPEAKER_04 3:35

Actually, I won't. He sucked at baseball. I listened to the episode and I was and when I was like, that is right, that kid sucked.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Yeah, the one thing we didn't take into consideration was the uh the speed attribute. That was the one thing that looking back, I I didn't draft a lot of speedy characters, so my team was not that great, from what I remember, because they were so fucking slow. Like none of them can make it to the base, like no matter how hard they hit it. But I mean, yeah, I'm hoping we could go back and do another draft episode. And like Jared said, like a video podcast, something that we've never done before. That would be like the perfect excuse to do it. Didn't you find like a backyard baseball baseball bat, Jared, and you bought it?

SPEAKER_00 4:10

Um, I didn't buy it, but one of the kids on my uh kids' uh middle school baseball team, which is sixth, seventh, and eighth grade, they bought the bat. Like I did see all the equipment. I don't know if that's new to this year or if it's been in the past, but one of the baseball coaches, I guess he knows how I am with like video games and stuff. He like sent the link to the page to all the backyard baseball stuff. And apparently there's a lot. But one of the kids does have the Pablo Sanchez, the aluminum bat, which is the upgrade, the upgraded bat you get in the game once you hit your upgrade.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

I wonder if that's from the 90s. Like, is that an o original like bat or is that like a I would think that's a new thing.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

I'm 99% sure it's like a new, I don't know if it's a new push or advertisement for backyard baseball, but like there's a huge nostalgia factor with our age group on like what they like. So I'm sure they're selling aluminum bats for four or five hundred dollars a pop right now. Everybody loves backyard baseball. Everybody played that not everybody, but a lot of people played that game.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

I'm hoping that we do get it in the future. Well, uh, we we took two weeks in between recording this, so has there been anything any updates in y'all's lives? I know Carter, you was talking about something about what was it, State Farm or something? Like, what was it?

SPEAKER_04 5:26

Yeah, I was joking about bringing up State Farm. So uh yeah, I had a house fire back in August that burnt up my back room, uh, which is my office room that had all my like stuff. I think the biggest losses I had of it was my PS2, my Nintendo 64, Retron console that played like Genesis NES and Super NES. But my main consoles though were okay. They were in this plastic thing and they stayed fine, so you know, it's alright. I got a spare 64. I do no longer have a PS2, but a ton of PS2 games, that sucks. But basically, we've been paid on State Farm all this money, and then they, you know, you you have to use your insurance once, and they've uh cancelled me. Now, so in April I can't renew with them. They said, nah, we're not gonna renew. Which apparently is fairly common. I mean, there's literally nothing I can do about it. Like the fire was a complete freak accident. It's not like a thing where I was where it was set, so I don't know. I would think they would want to get their money back, but I guess they're thinking, I'm gonna set my house on fire again.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

So fucking stupid man.

SPEAKER_04 6:25

Yeah, I mean, we're gonna have to try to find new insurance, and hopefully the new insurance isn't gonna be like, well, yeah, we'll insure you for three times the amount we're paying, which is possible, but I mean it really sucks because it was just like like I said, it was a freak accident that happened. Nothing you could really do. It was literally the ceiling fan in the bathroom caught on fire. But yeah, nothing I could do about it.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

So there's been a lot of bad luck with that recently, because I know I think a year and a half ago or two years ago, Jared's mom's house burned down, which was horrible. And uh I remember he was like going through the the ruins of it pretty much, and uh he found some of his sister's stuff, didn't you, Jared? Like in the attic, like some of it was pretty untouched by the fire.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

Yeah, it was really weird, like anything superficial, like it didn't matter if it was just like light old cardboard, it would be ruined, but you'd open up that cardboard box. Like, I mean, I'm talking the lightest, like an eighth of an inch thick of cardboard. Even though it was in like a blazing fire, complete house fire, you would open that up and everything inside would be good. But anything like outside without any protection at all was pretty ruined. But yeah, I've I found a decent amount of good stuff.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

I know a lot of her like video game stuff was like still intact. I'm just like, oh man, I don't know. I've never had anything like that happen to me in my life, like a serious fire like that. I think it's one of my biggest fears is like, you know, whenever that happened to Carter, I'm like, God, man, that that just fucking blows because it's just like not everything you own, but a large majority of it's just gone.

SPEAKER_04 7:51

It's um it's not as terrible as I thought it was gonna be, which I only lost a few systems. I didn't really lose very many actual of my games.

SPEAKER_02 7:58

Right.

SPEAKER_04 7:58

But at the same time, like I brought them to my brother's house because he let us stay there because we couldn't live here at this house for a little while. And I've never picked him back up, and that's why a lot of times, like we talk about how we're playing these games before I'd always play like if I had it on the Super Nintendo or the PS2, I'm playing it on that system, I'm not gonna emulate it. But the reason why I emulate a lot now is just because I mean all those systems are still over there, so it's like currently after the fire, it's my only option. I'm not like one of those, ooh, man, you gotta emulate everything, it's so good now, even though it pretty much is better. But at the same time, like I just like the uh I just like the feel of like putting a Super Nintendo cartridge in and using that controller and playing on a TV.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

I don't know, it just looks like there's just there is something special to that for sure. If you can play on the original hardware, I mean why the hell not? Just do it.

SPEAKER_04 8:45

Yeah, and I compare it to like this is gonna sound stupid, but obviously when you have Spotify, you can listen to literally any song you want to. But for some reason, if I got a C D in, I can just listen to songs I would never listen to, but it's like it's fine. Like I'm okay. Like I put an Aussie C D in, I can listen to just like all these Aussie songs, even if I know them or don't know them, I'm still like, oh, that's pretty good. I've never heard that one.

SPEAKER_02 9:07

It's a different experience because like yeah, we're so short attention span nowadays, like we just kind of want to skip through shit and we have access to literally everything at our fingertips. But when you put it in put on an album or something, it's like you're going along for with the journey of that album. And it's sort of similar with like a video game. Like whenever you play it on the system, you don't have the luxury of fast forwarding time, you don't have the luxury of save states, you don't have any of that stuff, so you kind of gotta get good at the game. Like you you can't cheese it necessarily, you just gotta play it like how you did back in the day. And you know, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_04 9:40

Yeah, you know, it's a little bit more of a hassle to turn it off, swap it out with a different game than it is, you know. Oh, I'm just gonna hit in two seconds I can be playing any of my other ten thousand games on here.

SPEAKER_02 9:51

Yeah, it's you it's more of a commitment. It's like, okay, I'm locking this in and this is what I'm doing for this evening. I'm playing this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

It is pretty cool to get trophies though for these old games, which you can do with that retro achievements website and log in and everything. That's pretty cool. Like I like getting rewarded for stuff.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

Yeah, for sure. I don't even know what it is about like trophies and achievements and shit that makes it so appealing. Because I have that thing too. It kind of hurts the Switch in my opinion. I don't know why Nintendo doesn't. Just put it in. Like, just put it in there. It takes a lot of things. Well, they do. It's well, not really. It's the platinum points shit. So every week you go to their little like Nintendo online membership thing and it will say something like, play two NES games for this week, or play like, or start one of these games, and they'll reward you with these like coins. You can use those coins to buy like different profile pictures.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Yeah. Yeah. They don't have like achievements on games.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

No, they don't have any achievements. Like, I you can't go to my like profile and look at all the shit that I've done. That does not exist.

SPEAKER_04 10:52

See, that's that's the thing I like about it. Like, I like getting on someone's profile and seeing like, damn, Tanner's been playing this or Jared's been playing that.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

I'll never forget one, dude. I have y'all ever pu played a game called South Park Stick of Truth?

SPEAKER_04 11:04

It's like an RPG in the South Park universe. I know what it is. Yeah, I know exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

I remember fucking freaking the fuck out whenever this happened. So the developers like made every single achievement on that game kind of like a joke. They say outrageous shit and you get them for nonsense stuff. But I remember there's one where you turn into a little mini version of yourself, and in the background you can see your in-game parents having sex while you're like running around the fucking like little room or whatever. If you are in that room for 60 seconds, you get a trophy that says perverted. That's the name of the trophy. It says you watched your parents have sex for 60 seconds, and that's imprinted on your fucking profile. So if someone goes and looks at it, they see that they're like, What the fuck is Twitter doing that?

SPEAKER_03 11:46

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

And I remember seeing that, I'm like, Are you fucking kidding me? Like that's gonna be on my goddamn profile.

SPEAKER_04 11:52

I like it when they make those trophies like stuff like that that kind of breaks the fourth wall a little bit. Like the even Undertale, which I thought about picking that for the podcast to play sometime, and I'll and I might once we get if we get some seasons rolling through. Um it's a newer game though, but anyway, one of the trophies you get is just like, what are you doing? Because you it's literally just a time crunch of like pushing X or A over and over and over to donate money until it does something and get you the trophy. And then the trophy is literally like, what are you doing? As in, what are you doing with your free time that you're gonna sit here and push the A button just to get a trophy?

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Yeah, those guys that chase all the trophies and platinums are fucking outrageous.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

Oh god, tell me about it. Literally back in like the mid-2010s, that's when Jared was at his most fanatical. Like you would go on websites and look up easiest like trophies, right? Like it was like games that was the easiest trophies to get or platinums.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Yeah, and that was in the yeah, you're right. The twin like the PS3 era.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

There was one I remember the the one I was just like, okay, Jared, this is crazy. Is whenever you bought Hannah Montana, the movie, the game.

SPEAKER_03 12:51

And I platinum that bitch.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

Which you your wife probably grew up watching Hannah Montana, so because whenever you was playing that game, I she'd be in the kitchen cooking something and she'd just be singing the songs from the TV.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Those were good things.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

What's going on right now? Do you remember? I think you were there one time, Tanner. You helped me platinum some like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Uh I know you're talking about was it a Terminator game or something? Yeah, on the PS3. And like randomly, a bunch of people, well, not a bunch, like there were like several teenagers that just come to my house at the time. I don't know how to elaborate that. I think they were with Brooks' brother, who was also in the hospital.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Is that what it was? Yeah, your wife's brother, like he had some friends and they come over for like a few seconds. You're like, oh, this game fucking blows. I can you all help me with this stuff?

SPEAKER_00 13:40

Well, and you were there, right? Yeah, I was there. Well, you know, one of those kids is Brock Smith in the fantasy league now.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

No way, was it?

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Yeah, one of those was Brock. He talked about that to that day. Like he was with his older sister or like with a friend or something. Like he showed up there. He was one of the youngest ones. He's just randomly there with a bunch of teenagers coming in my house, seeing my baby, while me and you were trying to platinum this.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

I never knew that was Brock.

SPEAKER_04 14:09

I like I never pieced that together. That's hilarious. Did you play that my name is Mayo game, Jared?

SPEAKER_00 14:15

Where you just you tap the Mayo box over and over or jar.

SPEAKER_04 14:19

That's it. That's it. You just tap the jar, and then you eventually you'll get a platinum trophy.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

You'd have to be the whole game. You'd have to be a fucking loser to press X that many times just to get a platinum. Just don't go to my don't go to my PlayStation profile.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

Nah, I got it too. Like that game only sold because it was an easy platinum, and that was what it was designed to do. Just click the mayonnaise jar until you get a platinum trophy. I wish I'd have designed that.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

There's minimal fucking programming effort, and he probably made a decent little chunk of change out of just making nothing.

SPEAKER_04 14:51

Like just for platinum tracers.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

You know what I mean? Like, five minutes of work.

SPEAKER_04 14:55

Just draw a thing of mayonnaise and just make prompts happen when someone clicks on it. Two days later, you release your game.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

I think one of the only platinums that me and Jared did together was uh Minecraft. Whenever that came out on the PlayStation 4 in like 2013 or something, we like it's like fuck it. This is an easy platinum, let's just do it. And we did it in like a few days. It was it wasn't nothing at all.

SPEAKER_04 15:17

I wish we'd have got through and done our uh Stardew platinum, but I think Jared kind of did that on his own, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

I didn't even know he platinum that game.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

I have not, but if we want to stop recording now and start a stardew, I'm in.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Well, it could be on the wheel in the future. I know I've said that in the past. Like I that's one of the games that I'm like it's on my like maybe list for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:38

Well, my maybe list. I've been uh shopping for it, Tanner, if you hadn't noticed.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Oh yeah, I seen that. Uh literally, I'm gonna tell you, Carter, it's exactly what I seen. I'm gonna describe what happened today. I went into a Mexican restaurant to get takeout, and I get a notification. I'm waiting in line. I look at my fucking phone and it's a Yahoo like from my email saying, You have been gifted a game from Karts Foo, Roller Coaster Tycoon. I was like, what the fuck? on Steam. I'm like, where did this come from? Why?

SPEAKER_04 16:04

Well, it's uh it was on sale for like a dollar fifty. I was gonna buy all of us a copy because I was like, see, uh, and this might be if I don't pick it, I mean, I don't know if any of us will pick it, so this might be the only time we get to talk about roller coaster tycoon. Yeah. But uh, I was like, you know, that was one of those games, like if you had a computer back in 95, 98, Windows 98, or whatever, that was like one of the huge games on the system at that time.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Dude.

SPEAKER_04 16:30

A massive game.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

I would be pumped to play Roller Coaster Tycoon 1. I know they made three or four and maybe even beyond that.

SPEAKER_04 16:39

Well, the game I bought for Tanner and myself was already on your account because I tried to buy it for you too. So I was like, well, then Jared's in. If I pick that game, he'd be ready to go. But I we haven't played like the uh a game like that that I'm aware of, like a theme park where you gotta design it. Because I was thinking of one I played was like Sim Theme Park. I don't know if you guys have played it or heard of it. I have. But it's very similar. But I was like, that might be uh something because we've not explored a game like that that I'm aware of. No, never tycoon. If we pick it, we got it.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

So Leafy Lake, level two. I'll never forget it.

SPEAKER_04 17:17

And Tanner may have completely missed the roller coaster tycoon craze.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

I played it a little bit at Jared's house, but what I had was a uh zoo tycoon. That was the one I had. It was where you made it as a zoo.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

Roller Coaster Tycoon is one of those cook shorter games that we played the there were like PC, there's a lot of me and shorter that combined together with PC games. Like, I don't know why. Like I would see him play something I would watch at his house for like a whole weekend for like 10 hours straight. And a lot of those were simulator. Is that what you would call that? Yeah, Tycoon. It was their own, it was their own genre, was like they had tycoon games, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:57

Like Zoo Tycoon, Roller Coaster Tycoon.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

There's so many different like sub-genres off that. Like, I I kid you not, two random ass ones I remember watching shorter play, Lemonade Stand Tycoon and Trailer Park Tycoon. Trailer Park Tycoon, you own like you ran your own trailer park and you'd put these trailers in and like invest a little bit of money in them. Like you might put a hot tub in one and try to get some family to rent it off of you. Like I sat there and watched his ass play that like a whole weekend.

SPEAKER_04 18:28

That's hilarious. That's wild. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, I was like, I don't think, and we've never touched genres like that that I'm aware of. No, they were really freaking good.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

And that's one of my favorite ones. And then, like, like kind of joke, but like not joking, but like you think about Shorter's life how it ended up. Like, he's out there trying to be like a business entrepreneur type early on straight out of high school. Like, did those games have a little bit of influence in his like lifestyle early on?

SPEAKER_02 18:55

We'll have to bring Shorter on the pod for an interview.

SPEAKER_04 18:58

Well, roller coaster tycoon may be coming to a wheel near you.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

Yeah, I'd be fun as shit. I'd be all over that. Which uh there has been since we were two weeks in between recording, there's been a little bit of news. I don't know exactly what this was from, but I seen it on IGN. So usually they don't report something if it's like if it's bullshit, they usually don't report on it. So I'm I'm taking it on face value. But it was something like some sort of like leaker who's like very well known in the community, leaked something from Nintendo, how there's not only gonna be a new Star Fox game, which is something I want to dive into, but there's also gonna be an Ocarina of Time remake, which is wild. I don't know why they're choosing Ocarina of Time, because they kind of already remade that game on the 3DS, but I'm all over it. I I'm a bitch when it comes to fucking remakes. You know, I I love them. I'm just gonna be honest. Like, if it's a game I love and it gets remade, I'm I'm probably gonna fucking buy it, even though a lot of people are against it. If it's made well and it's like modern day graphics and it's Ocarina time that we know and love, I'm fucking pumped.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

If it's made well, if it's upgraded and it's on the Switch and it's modern day graphics, it will be a top seller. Like this the Switch 2 has nothing right now. The Switch is kind of dead. Yeah, and you know, they bring on Leaf Green and Fire Red, and it kind of like I bought both of them. I'm one of those Nintendo suckers, but like a new Ocarina of Time upgraded stuff, it will sell like crazy, man. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:21

They could just release it and say, hey, we got it in HD now. People's buying it.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

And that Star Fox shit, my god, this is literally the power of the fucking podcast, and this is this one for this season. Whenever, okay, I seen a new Star Fox game is coming out. I'm like, of course. This is the one of the season. Jared picks Star Fox 64. There has not been a Star Fox game since 20 fucking 15, and that game flopped hard. That was one of the last Wii U games called Star Fox Zero. Like that series was pretty much dead. Of course, Jared Picks fucking Star Fox 64, they're they're coming out with a new one. But the thing that shocked me was fucking Star Fox is in the Mario movie that's coming out. Why? Why? The pod, baby.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Can we go back and just think about even in the past, like things we picked on the pod, and then like one of the ones I remember a hundred percent was Glover. Fucking who thinks about Glover when I was editing, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 21:18

That was editing the Dark Cloud episode. We had this same discussion with Corey on that podcast. Was because like something was happening at that point in time that was being remade that we already did, but you listed a ton. You was just like fucking Glover, a wonderful life. Monster Rancher. You were like, no one has talked about this game in two decades, and the moment that we fucking pick it, it's getting remade.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

I'm not saying it's us, but like maybe we just luck up and we think of the same stuff that other people are thinking of, like people should play this game twenty years later, fifteen, thirty years later, whatever it is. But like it's hit more times than it's not. Glover still is like the the surpr like shot. Like, who the hell knows what Glover is? And why the fuck did they remake it like directly after we podcasted about it?

SPEAKER_02 22:06

Yeah, exactly. It's just it makes no fucking sense. Like, I'm trying to think of another. Oh, there was one that the one that we were talking about on that wheel that we never made. It was Monster Warrior uh uh monsters or whatever. Or Dragon Warrior Monsters, that's what it was called. Yeah. There was a new one being made whatever after Carter picked up. It's like, what the fuck? Is that out yet?

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Oh, yeah, that's been years. On what? Everything. There's a Dragon Warrior Monsters that's current on a newer system.

SPEAKER_04 22:31

There is, yes, it is called Dragon Quest Monsters Joker, the Dark Prince, I think, but it's on uh it's on Steam, it's on Android, I think, it's on Switch, it's on a little bit of everything. PS5? I'm sure it is if you looked for it.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

And I have monsters and I've got a little farm that I can drop them off at.

SPEAKER_04 22:52

Yeah, I don't know. I haven't bought it yet, which is stupid. Like I didn't know this existed. Yeah, basically you're this dark it's called the Dark Prince because you're a character from like one of the Dragon Warrior games, but somehow you get something happen. They cast a spell in it where you can't fight anymore and you can't attack and do anything. But your monster companions can. So you gotta get them, convince them to join you, you know, like how you give them meats and stuff, I'm sure. I don't know exactly how you get them to join you, but you get them to join you, cross-breed them and stuff, and make new monsters. I don't know what it's called exactly, but yeah, it is a Dragon Quest monsters game, Jared.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Kobe's Adventure. Right now.

SPEAKER_04 23:33

I don't think it's super expensive either.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

Carter loved Dragon Warrior Monster 1, of course, but he loved that little Game Boy color, Kobe's Adventure. What was the female's name? You could buy a male's adventure. Well, Tara, Tara, yeah. Tara and Kobe.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

It's a damn shame we never got to do that episode. We're gonna have to like, Carter's gonna have to add it again so we can actually go through it. Hey, all right.

SPEAKER_04 23:58

Even though I beat us, Kobe's version, Kobe Bryant's version. Oh, I just picked two. You know, if you want to play Terra's, hey, you be Terra.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

The podcast is fucking nuts, and every single time we have a new season, I always take that into consideration. I'm like, maybe the gods are smiling on me, and whatever I pick is gonna get remade, so I'm not gonna pick shit.

SPEAKER_04 24:16

Yeah, that's gonna alter my picks going forward.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

Getting a roller coaster tycoon remake if you make that shit, or if you pick it, Carter. Mark my words.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Switch 2 Star Fox game, I'm there for a hundred. I will have it 100%. I mean, I'm such a sucker for anything that I can put in the Switch 2 and play it. I bought Kirby's Air Adventure or whatever the hell that was, and it sucks. It sucks.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Man, Nintendo, I don't know. I'm kind of worried about them right now because like all these games that are coming out. I know Bonanza people liked, and I'm not gonna sit here and shit on that game, but it's like it's it's a Donkey Kong platformer. It's not gonna sell systems. But like Metroid Prime 4 people say is terrible. That Kirby game people say sucks.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

The Mario Kart game is like it's not bad, but it's it's something it's not as good as it's not like uh this isn't your A1 starter that you're throwing out there. Mario Kart will always be like a A minus, B plus like great game, even at its best. It's not the thing that you have to throw out there. How uh I think one thing right now that's selling the Switch 2 is the Pokopia, or I might be mispronouncing that.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

Pokopia It's a fresh idea of a genre that uh Nintendo fans love. It's that you know, that uh social simulator, Animal Crossing thing. But with Pokemon, I mean I that I knew that that game was gonna do well from the moment that I seen what it was. Is it only Switch 2? Uh no, I think it's on Switch 1 too.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

See, I thought I saw some type of post that like this is this is still on the Switch 2 right now, this game. So that made me think that it was only Switch 2, but you could be right. I was just asking.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

Let me see. I'm looking it up. Nope, it is not available on Switch 1. So I was wrong. So yeah, it is Switch 2 as an exclusive.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Yeah, so that's what I saw a post like this single-handedly is making people go out and buy the Switch 2 because it's just sat there since for a year and a half now or half a year. It's been out since like May.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

It's last June.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

Okay, June 25th. Yeah. Okay, so like three-fourths of a year.

SPEAKER_04 26:19

They've got some games coming though that'll get it sold. Like, I'm not so far, there's been zero reason to even think about buying one for me. No, they've got a Yoshi platformer coming out here soon.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

Which that was uh that was more news that was coming out, um, which is kind of on brand for what we was talking about, where they're saying that the physical versions are gonna cost ten dollars more than the digital. Or don't kill us. It's ridiculous. Do you all know that those fucking uh cartridges for the Switch 2 have like one megabyte of memory on them?

SPEAKER_04 26:48

And it's it's basically just to be honest though, that would actually make sense finally for them to do that to charge more for a physical copy than the actual digital copy, if they were putting the entire game on it, of course. I would agree.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

But yeah, before we get into uh Dino Crisis, there was a few things I was wanting to talk about that's kind of on brand for this game. Is one, this is a game about dinosaurs, and I know that we all have a history with a game about dinosaurs. That game is called Ark Survival Evolved. Now, I'm not wanting to go fully into this game because we're already, you know, 30 minutes into this podcast. But yeah, that I think that's something that we need to just dedicate an entire episode to alone because that was a game that took over our lives for a short period of months. We were obsessed with it, and it's still probably the best multiplayer experience I've ever had. But it still could be we could always go back. But uh, Jared, how do we even get into that game in the first place? Like, do you remember even how we even found that game out?

SPEAKER_00 27:46

I remember. It's uh November 2016. I'm a school teacher, not wanting to be a school teacher, and I had an an exit plan which was coming within the next uh three to four months. Yeah, four to five months maybe. I was gonna go to graduate school and become a physical therapist, which I did. And I haven't given up on teaching. I mean, you can't like sit there and let everybody do whatever they want, but like I'm I'm like, this teaching thing's not for me, and I'm taking a little bit of a relaxed approach to it. So, like, some kids are doing an assignment. My classroom, like, I've got it decently managed disciplinary-wise. Kids aren't going wild, and I had a decent syllabus and like schedule and that sort of thing. But anyway, I'm sitting there on YouTube while my kids are doing an assignment, and I see this game. Like these four guys are out and they're like all building a house together or building like a thing together, hut, whatever. And then they go out on a raft and they're fishing together, and there's all this stuff like chasing them, and then all of a sudden they start like fighting against another thing, and I'm like, this is online, like a survival game is online. I didn't even know there were dinosaurs. I don't think I had really seen any dinosaur part to it, and I'm like, holy shit, I've got to get this. So, like, I that class, while the kids are doing some work, like there's two guys that I know are gamer type guys sitting there, and I like bring them up. I'm like, hey, come up here. I'm like, have you all do you all know about this? And they're like, uh, it's out on Xbox right now. Like some of our friends play it and this sort of thing, but it was coming to PS4 that fall, like December, I'm guessing. Like, it was like a month left until it came out on PS4. And I'm like, We I've gotta get like this is looks amazing. I've gotta get it. And then I did, and it was amazing.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

I think you're selling it a little short. I remember you telling me about this game, and we've always kind of been into survival games. Like, I don't know if you necessarily call Minecraft a survival game, but shit like that, like it's always kind of fun. Yeah, it was fun, but it was like nothing could prepare us for what this game was. I'll never forget us spawning into the island. That's the name of that fucking uh map on the game. And we meet up and we're these two little cavemen.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

We didn't know shit about we don't know a thing about it. We don't know there's dinosaurs, we don't know anything. We don't know what we're doing.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

No, we have to figure it out as we play, and every little discovery that we make was like so fucking fun, so memorable.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

We're like literal cavemen clapping when fire, fire, fire.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

I'll never forget when we made our first thatch hut. It's it's for people who play uh arc, it's we had two foundation, uh thatched foundation side by side with walls, a door, and a roof. I look, Jared stand in front of this, I'm taking your picture. I still have it on my PS4 of you standing beside our first thatch hut.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

Well, like what people don't realize is too of course stuff like that breaks down and like goes more for the people, but like when we first played it, we were in an official server which went by very official rules, which the like gathering times is so much lower than what the official servers are today. Like you would cut down a tree and get like three pieces of wood, eight pieces of thatch. Like, like it was so minimal. Like the gathering was so hard, like the way we were playing.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

Oh, yeah, it was fucking brutal.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

And then you add to our like lack of knowledge on the game, like it took we we had to build up.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

It's one of them things it's just like I want to fucking dive into it, but maybe we should just leave it at that, like a little like taste. But the the reason I brought that up in the first place was because that's a game where you tame dinosaurs and the immediately whenever a carter picked Dino Crisis, I can't not look at a dinosaur and not think of Arc. Like, no matter what. If I'm watching Jurassic Park, I'm thinking of Arc. If I'm playing Dino Crisis, I'm thinking of Ark. It's like I never had that thing as a kid to where you know how some kids like get into dinosaurs whenever they're like three or four years old? I never had that. So that game was like kind of an education for me in terms of dinosaurs. Like I know pretty much every species that was ever in that fucking game. I can just look at it and be like, oh yeah, it's a that's a Compi. That's a Trudon, that's a Therizino. It's like that game kind of taught me about dinosaurs and shit. Yeah, we we're gonna we're gonna dive more into Arc Survival Evolve for those of you who are fans of it like we are. Yeah. Are you boys ready to talk a little bit about Dino Crisis? Oh yeah. Now, Carter, I know Jared was uh I I said it earlier in our group chat. Whenever you pick this game, I'm like, this is not this is the most anti-Jared Cook game I've ever seen in my life. Because not only one is it a horror game, Jared hates horror games, two, it's one of the like founding fathers of horror games. It's like on the PS1 and it has the infamous Capcom tank controls. Now, whenever I've seen you pick it, I was pumped because I've beaten every single Resident Evil game besides I think the OG 3. That's the only one I've never played or beat. So this was like riding a bike to me. Like even with these controls, like I've played Resident Evil 1, 2, and Code Veronica, which all have these same controls. So I immediately picked it up like it was nothing, was breezing through it. But uh, did you all like how bad of a struggle was it for you all?

SPEAKER_04 32:55

Well, I know we didn't cover the backstory with this game. I'm gonna assume you guys have any. No, you're gonna go. No, I don't have any I don't have any.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:01

That's fine. So this was a game that my brother got uh because he was heard people talk about it at school. This was supposed to be back in the day, this was considered the bigger, badder Resident Evil game when it launched. Now, obviously the series says otherwise. And it's a completely different atmosphere too. Like Resident Evil is a different game than Dino Crisis. Same game, Resident Evil Dinosaurs is not really that accurate. But yeah, I grew up with this game. My brother bought the game. Uh I remember he cut grass and he was cutting grass all summer, and one of the things he bought was Dino Crisis with the strategy guide. That's how I kind of knew a lot of the stuff because I beat this game not only to death, but there was a time where I beat the game and then I played it that same day and beat the game twice in one day. So this is one of those games I beat the hell out of, and I haven't played it in years, but definitely remember it like the back of my hand. But anyway, as far as the controls go, I have no problem with those tanky controls just because I used to play this so much. I mean I beat this game probably 12 times as a kid. So um back in the day, you know, you played what you had, and this was one of the games that we had. I had a strategy guide that literally told me what to do, and basically I didn't I memorized the strategy guide so much that I never used it. I just knew exactly what the codes were. When I was a kid, I memorized most of the codes, which is crazy because when I'd see the codes, I'm like, oh yeah, I remember that number chain.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Yeah, these games, these Capcom survival horror games, are notoriously difficult. Like, I mean, they do not at all hold your hand in any way, shape, or form because that's kind of like how they designed horror games back then. It's kind of like, you know, you are just kind of extremely limited on resources. Everything you get, you gotta conserve. You can't blow through every single thing that you have, whether it be ammo or healing. But this game, uh, especially compared to Resident Evil, I found way more difficult in terms of the puzzles. Because a lot of the times in a Resident Evil game, the puzzles are pretty easy. They're just kind of like uh kind of color patterns and like push this block here under the sunlight, or it's like very visual, like you can just kind of see what you're doing. This game was very uh like file-based. Like there would be times where you pick up a file, and in Resident Evil's case, it's more about background knowledge in terms of the story and the characters, that kind of shit. This game it's more like I once I started to like kind of skim over the files and I would see numbers in them, it would say like particular numbers. I'm like, oh shit, I guarantee I gotta remember this fucking shit. Yes. So I start what I did was I got a uh I got my laptop and I like had a notepad up and I would just type in whatever the fuck I found. I didn't know when I would ever need to use it or not, but I just I just knew from Capcom games that this these were gonna come in you know handy later. But yeah, that was the number one thing going into this. Was this game was definitely a lot harder than a lot of the Resident Evil games. Even like the starter enemy, those goddamn raptors are fucking brutal for a beginner.

SPEAKER_04 35:44

You are not supposed to fight them at all in the beginning. You gotta take off, run like hell. This game is less about like Resident Evil had this whole um setup where it was just straight like horror, but it was scary, but you could survive, but it was still just like this creepy atmosphere. Um that was more of like a haunting adventure. This one is more of the terror you get when you're being chased by something all the time.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Which they did do that. I think this game came out in between two and three. So, but in Resident Evil 3, the one I haven't played, I don't have you heard of the character Nemesis Carter in Resident Evil?

SPEAKER_04 36:16

Yeah, it's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

Okay, well that's kind of like they took what Dino Crisis did and cranked it up even more. It's a guy that, even in the save rooms, he's always there. He's always chasing you. He never leaves you alone. You cannot escape him at all. That's what this reminded me of with the Raptors, because there would be times where, you know, my first initial reaction was just like, okay, I'm gonna shoot him with my pistol. That did absolutely nothing. I got mauled and died. So I'm like, well, fuck. Okay, well, I guess I'm gonna run. I go into another room, I'm looping around, and then all of a sudden the the camera pans over to the door, and it's about to break down the fucking door. I'm like, are you serious?

SPEAKER_04 36:48

Like, I can't even adrenaline rush when I was a kid, man. Horrified, scared. Like when I played that game as a kid, I'd always thinking I was gonna die. Every corner, I was just like, here it is, here it comes, here it comes. And then there's one scene where uh she first gets into where um she's loses gale, then she hears you hear like a raptor prowling and she's like pointing her gun around.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:08

That took me forever as a kid to get through there. Then when you come back through it, it finally busts through the glass and jumps on you. Like, oh my god, when I was a kid, that horrified me.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Yeah. Like those raptors are no fucking joke. Like, that's like what a late game Resident Evil enemy would be at the very beginning of the game. Like they're just like they do not hold your hand at any way. I think the one thing you have to do early on is like Carter said, you have to run a lot. Like you can't really face them. But the one thing that was a savior for me were those tank darts.

SPEAKER_04 37:39

Like instead of trying to kill them, just tranquilize them. Just trank them and move on, yeah. The whole thing isn't like I said, this game wasn't designed for you to be able to go in and just kill everything. This is literally survival survival horror where you've got to run and just survive. Like you've got enough ammo usually just to make it to the next part of the game. That's why I felt bad when I first started playing through it, because I remember half this shit on how to play it. This is uh what they call a pen and paper game. When you see those codes before back in the day, you would write the codes down. Uh, when you're going through those puzzles, like I sent you a video of that one I recorded with my which was funny because it was like A, D, E, and my daughter's singing the ABCs in the background. Um I hadn't recorded so I'd get it. But as a kid when those would flash up, because those are always random, I would just write the code down as it went. But this was literally a thinking game more than it was like the puzzles and everything, the codes you need, all of that is more like they want you to think more than it does just, you know, get through the game. But those dinosaurs, man, did you get to the Therizinos? I did. Yeah, I beat the game. Okay, those Therizinos are freaking monsters, man. Oh god.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

When I seen the pterodactyls, whenever I first went outside, I'm like, oh my god, like what the hell do I even do? But they didn't give me that much problem, but it was like kind of more of just the intimidation. There was only one time, and I think this maybe is a you could tell me if I'm wrong. This was like a pre-uh existing cut scene. Whenever I came outside and I was walking around the corner and one of them picked me up, and there's some times in the game where you'll have something called a danger cut scene, which is not it'll drop you into the fan, I think. I think all you have to do in those little danger cut scenes is just spam the controller, right? Like just to break free of the fan.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

That's pretty much it, yeah. So you can get out and break free of it.

SPEAKER_02 39:19

Okay, okay. Because I whenever that first happened, I'm like, what am I doing? What what the fuck am I supposed to do? And luckily, I my instinct was just to mash the buttons and it worked. Thank God.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

Yeah, if you don't mash the buttons, it drops you in and you die.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:32

Same thing with uh there's a few of those different danger scenes. Like that Therizino knocks that thing off that what is it, a cargo trailer, and it'll drop on top of you if you don't get out of the way.

SPEAKER_03 39:40

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Capcom has had a huge resurgence lately. Like they have remade a lot of their classic games, and and I've just beat Resident Evil 9 a month ago. Resident Evil is bigger than it's ever been, and it's and it's fantastic. They came back from their little slump in Resident Evil 5 and 6. A lot of people hate those games.

SPEAKER_03 39:55

Yeah. But they're doing great.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

If they remade Dino Crisis with those modern day graphics, like this game would be fucking horrifying. Because there were times like what we were talking about, whenever me and Jared would play Ark. I'm telling you, like, those dinosaurs can be freaky as hell, and whenever they're chasing you full speed and shit, like, oh God, I can only imagine whenever it's like designed for horror. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 40:16

Oh, this team, yeah. Like we were talking about remakes earlier, and I was going to mention like a game we're talking about today needs a remake bad. And I know that Jared, like, we're laughing because we're like, yeah, this is an anti-Jared game, but I didn't mean it that way. But when I was playing through it, I was like, damn, this game is if I didn't know what I was doing, I don't know if I would know what I was doing.

SPEAKER_02 40:36

Which Jared, he can speak for himself, but I like it's easy for me because I played so many games like this, and I it's easy for me to pick up. But if there's people out there who play one of these games and fucking hate it, I do not say they're stupid or anything like that. It's like I can completely see because these controls are so archaic and outdated. The design of it is so old school, it's so brutal that I'm just like, if you don't even get any enjoyment out of this at all, I completely get it. Like I I don't fault you at all. But I like these kind of games. I just do.

SPEAKER_00 41:05

Yeah, it took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to walk.

SPEAKER_04 41:10

I totally get it. It's literally you have to push up, and no matter which direction you're going, up is forward. Like she walks forward.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

And the thing these games is they have fixed camera angles, so it's not like you're behind the back of a it's like you're like looking at like little camera shots, like looking down at the character, and you're kind of diagonal. It's awkward as hell.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

I played probably three hours, which three to four hours into the game.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

Short as fuck. You can beat this game in six hours.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

So that's pretty so three to four hours for me not knowing what I'm doing is probably 30 minutes for somebody else. But like I remember thinking, like, that fucking card, like, this is fucking Resident Evil with like a different skin.

SPEAKER_04 41:52

That's what it is, Jared. That's that's what we played. The only difference is, man, you got that Resident Evil remake, and I wish they had a Dino Crisis remake like that, which is what Tanner was talking about.

SPEAKER_02 42:04

Like we didn't play Resident Evil 1 until the last I think the first season of when we first started the podcast back in 2021. But if you go back to those controls, they're pretty smooth. It's like it's not like this. It you can hate it still, like the the horror aspect of it and everything, but the controls are so much better.

SPEAKER_04 42:20

The hard thing is though, if they did make I was thinking about this, like, because it didn't take very long to beat this game, and it doesn't. But if they remade it with those modern controls, like it'd be what, an hour and a half, two hour game, probably. Probably be so easy to get through it. Um they'd have to redesign a lot, because they've tried to remake it before, like they did a full-on like they're remaking the game, and then they scrapped the project because it wasn't turning out good. So I don't know if they'll ever get around to actually remaking it. Which I'm saying, you know, you don't have to remake it. If you were just reboot it, have a different setting, but use the I mean same kind of setting with like, you know, you can use Regina. I don't care, that's cool, Jared hates it though. But uh, you can do that, have that setting just you know blow up the layout of the actual land or something. I think you can make it pretty freaking cool.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

I agree, because I I read a little bit more about the series because I was like, was this a one and done? But no, there was a Dino Crisis 2 and then there was a Dino Crisis 3. But they go for more of that like action stuff, so I'm like, yeah, because if I'm playing a Capcom horror game, I want it to be like this, like more survival horror and that sort of style. Because like, even whenever I was playing it, I had to basically relearn this game because it is like Resident Evil, but it isn't. There was a lot of things that was different. Like the one thing that stuck out to me was those uh fuse boxes and stuff you would see around the map. That was like where you got your ammo and your heels and stuff. Usually in Resident Evil games, they're just kind of laying around. So whenever I'd go in these rooms and I wouldn't find nothing, I'm like, god damn, like what the fuck? Like they're not giving me anything. Until whenever I found those fuse boxes, I'm like, oh thank god, like this is where all the shit is.

SPEAKER_04 43:47

Exactly, yeah. Like I said, it's so similar to Resident Evil, but then when you play it, it's actually a whole lot it's really different. Like it's the same controls basically, and that's and it's a survival horror. And that's pretty much that's it. That's where the similarities kind of stop. I mean, a little bit of the actual I mean, like like you said, you played Resident Evil so you could figure out how to get around. You kind of get an idea of what you're looking for. It's kinda like when I played uh Bloodborne was the first real Souls game I actually played. And I remember playing Demon Souls before and we were like, this game fucking sucks. This is ridiculous. I'm getting killed in one hit. And then after playing Bloodborne and going back to it, I was like breezing through the game because I knew what I knew what I was doing. Like I had a feeling that Tanner would probably be okay with this game. And I was like, man, if I hadn't played this game, I don't know how Jared's gonna feel about this one.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

But uh I I was gonna say one more thing about this game, and it was something that was so cool and I didn't expect that was uh but it's kind of on brand for that Capcom survival horror thing because in the Resident Evil games, you know how like at the beginning you can choose between like Chris or Jill, Leon or Claire, and they both have kind of a different little like campaign to them. It's not exactly different, but it it's a little different. Whenever they initially gave you a decision to side with either Rick or Gail, I'm like, okay, this is fucking cool. Because like it gives you an incentive to go back and like you know, some replayability. For me, I went with Gail.

SPEAKER_04 45:06

I went with Rick, and because his is more puzzle-based focus, and I just remember Gail is like, okay, we're gonna just kill a bunch of dinosaurs and rush through this place. That was always his like go-to. You have those choices, what, three times, I think, between Rick and uh Gail. Yeah, you do. And it affects the ending, whatever path you take.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

I think it says there's four different endings, right, to this game.

SPEAKER_04 45:27

There is, yeah. And I got the best ending because uh I just remembered that I remembered it from when I was a kid. You need to go to the heliport first, then go back, and then Gail, Kirk, uh Rick, and her lips. I remembered when I was a kid how to make sure I saved them all. So I did that this time. Um I almost played through it a few more times to get some of the other innings.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:46

That is something with uh these Resident Evil games. Here recently, Corey, it's his favorite franchise of all time, and he was going through a Resident Evil phase with nine, and he made a decision after he beat it at Nine, he's like, you know what? I'm gonna platinum every single Resident Evil game. Like, not in order. He would like kind of he says he's gonna skip around, but he that's his mission is to platinum all of them. With these Capcom games, they're all extremely short. Like you can beat some of the Resident Evil with those like infinite grenade launchers and stuff within like I don't know, two hours, three hours. Like they can be that quick. But a lot of those trophies are fucking ridiculous. Like one of them is like, you know, beat the game in under two hours, beat the game without using a single heel, that kind of stuff. So they want you to go back and do these multiple playthroughs, but they usually give you like like you're saying, those cosmetics you that you can unlock with each uh playthrough and stuff. So that's very on brand with Capcom. But I did I did like that little decision thing because I'm like, okay, well, me and Carter's gonna have different choices in the game and and story and stuff, so I thought that was awesome. Yeah, what ending did you end up getting, by the way, on your first playthrough? Oh, is it can like I don't know what's considered the good and the bad and all that?

SPEAKER_04 46:50

Oh there I mean there none of them's canon, I guess, because there's you know the set when you start getting to the like you talked about Dino Crisis 2, which I have Gail survived. Okay. Did you knock him out and make him get on the hovercraft one? Yeah. Okay, yeah. So that's an ending where then you don't know what happens to Kirk, so that makes it kind of a question mark.

SPEAKER_02 47:08

But it wasn't the best ending.

SPEAKER_04 47:10

Not the best ending, but I mean, all like I said, none of them are canon, because in Dino Crisis 2, it's literally a shooter, and you get like points through each level, so it's still got levels, and every time you go through it, you'll shoot a bunch of dinosaurs and get like an arcade shooter, like you would pay money at like uh movies or something. That's what Dino Crisis 2 is.

SPEAKER_00 47:29

That's kind of what I thought this would be. Me is like a not familiar at all with this game, not even knowing it's Capcom and a Resident Evil type of game. I thought this was like a Turok.

SPEAKER_02 47:41

That's what I was about to do.

SPEAKER_00 47:44

Like type, and and I was not disappointed, but you know.

SPEAKER_04 47:51

You went to you're like, okay, it's not that kind of game, but it's it's fucking this kind of game.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

What do they call that? Time crisis. Dino crisis, time crisis.

SPEAKER_04 48:09

Okay, you can see where it went wrong. Well, Dino Crisis 2 would have been on brand. And then Dino Crisis 3 is like, I don't know what the hell happened.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

I watched five minutes of gameplay, and I'm like, this looks just and line up almost every point I've made because I've you all are talking excellent about the game, and I like hearing about it. Like it makes me want to go back and play it.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:29

Is Time Crisis?

SPEAKER_02 48:31

Is this the same people? I don't know. Like I'm not crisis. I'll look it up right now on air. Yeah, I'm not sure either. It's an On Rails Light Gun shooter by Namco.

SPEAKER_04 48:41

Okay, so it's Namco, which makes sense to be uh RK boot. No, that's fine. Like I said, I tried playing Dino Crisis 2 and was severely disappointed because they went That's what I don't get is like if you're going to make a stupid decision to go completely away from like the genre and everything, yeah. It would be like if they made Dragon Quest 12 and then you go and it's like a first person shooter, it's like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_02 49:01

Yeah, they've they've learned their lesson now, and I think like companies like Konami have too, because I know with like Metal Gear and stuff, they would try certain stupid ass things, but then now they're at the point where they remade three, and then they're just like, okay, we're gonna stick to what we know, what the fans like, and we're just gonna stick with that, stay in our lane, so to speak. Which I agree. I think that's how it should be.

SPEAKER_04 49:22

The opposite of the Natsumi approach, which is nice. Yeah, Natsumi doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

I swear to God, like they genuinely have no idea how to make videos.

SPEAKER_04 49:30

I was like, I need to get hole every single episode. I mean, I was like, I gotta bring it up. That's our Tommy Talerico.

SPEAKER_00 49:42

So they did announce a new Harvest Moon.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

Oh, we talked about it last episode.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Okay. My bad, my bad. Oh, Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

I'm being dead ass honest. I'm just gonna say this. Whenever I every single episode I've uploaded and every single episode we've done for this new podcast, we have referenced Natsumi for at least 10 minutes in each episode every time.

SPEAKER_04 50:02

Oh, it's on my list to make sure I bring it up because no, I don't really give a shit. Like, I'm like, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 50:08

I started cracking up. I was just like, okay, I'm I'm about to release well, real fishing, it's a Natsumi game. I knew going into it. But whenever I release Dark Cloud, I'm like, nah, we didn't talk about it in this. No, we talked about it for about 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 50:22

Like, they're gonna be like, is this the Nansumi hate club?

SPEAKER_00 50:25

Like that that's our Japanese listeners right there. Nansumi personnel.

SPEAKER_02 50:32

Look, I want to touch on what Carter said about Tommy Tellerico. If anyone out there is familiar with Pat the NES Punk and fucking uh the CU podcast, we crack up because that is their obsession, is they talk about this fucking dude who like made a shitty little Intellivision. For those of you, it's like an 80s system in television console. And he it sucks. But like, okay, that's cool. You know, I get it. Like it sucks for retro gamers who wanted something in television related. They've been talking about this one man for six years or more every fucking episode.

SPEAKER_04 51:07

Like, move on. It's like crazy. How old is our podcast right now? It's the one that's 45 years. So we've been talking about Natsumi for five years because our first episode was Harvest Moon. And fuck Tommy Telurico.

SPEAKER_02 51:21

I can I can't I can't bash on too much because yeah, we have our shit that we get pissed about too, but who the fuck cares about in television? That thing has to have like a 500 people, like you know, like who cares? Like, I don't know. I just don't get it. And I love it. Tommy Tel Rico probably doesn't even, you know, respond to them about it. Like they're just screaming into the void, pretty much. Yeah. Anyway, all right, boys, you want to get into our scores of Dino Crisis?

SPEAKER_04 51:46

Yeah, let's get into it. Um and speaking of getting into it, it is my game.

SPEAKER_03 51:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 51:51

So this game, like I said, I remembered it so good. There was so much stuff that I thought I would forget, and then I went through it, I'm like, oh, I remember this, and then it was just so much nostalgia because I've not played this game. Gosh, 20 years, 15 years? Okay, how old am I? 25 years. Um shit. Anyway, I've not played this game in that long. So all that stuff, and I couldn't believe I remembered like some of those codes, like, what was it, 0328? I don't know. It's just so stupid that I remember that stuff from when I was a kid. And I I was sitting there the whole time I was playing. All I was thinking about was, man, this would be a hell of a remake. But I want to try to review score it as is, and as is is the controls are the clunky Capcom controls. Yeah. Once you get used to them though, then it's I think they're actually not bad. Like I would go back and probably be fine playing through Resident Evil 1 right now, the old-fashioned way. What is this? Yeah, just because I got used to the controls. Like I said, this is one of those games where I feel like the controls are something you've got to just get used to. Once you're used to them though, then it's fine. Like you don't have no problem getting in and out of situations, turn around, running, doing all the stuff that you need to do.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:55

Anyway, this game deserves a massive remake, and I think it would be awesome if they did it. I think it would be horrifying. I think it could be literally up there with the Resident Evil stuff if they would do it correctly and just remake it. But this is more more into the spacey science fiction-y, like dinosaurs coming and eating people versus you know, zombies coming to life and stuff. So completely different, but the same. So for me, like I said, this playthrough was awesome. I almost beat it again and again just to try to get to that infinite grenades because I feel like that makes the game really awesome. But it was, like I said, for me, nostalgia base, extremely awesome. I absolutely loved it. But at the same time, like if I was to recommend it to somebody, I'd be like, yeah, it's a it's a 6.5. Something that I feel like it's a very good, if you like horror games and want to relive an awesome PS1, what would you call it? Like a hallmark, like a trailblazer. This is the one that that people need to play. But again, if they remade it and had new features um and the new control scheme, I think it would definitely bump it up a couple points. But as it sits, the way that you have to play it now, 6.5 for me.

SPEAKER_02 53:59

I respect that. For me, I'm I'm definitely a massive Resident Evil fan, so I was looking forward to this. And in many ways, it checked a lot of the boxes of what I wanted. Um it it's you threw Jared in the fucking deep end because this is by far the hardest of this style of game that I played. Um, not just from an enemy perspective, but a puzzle perspective. This is a game that does not hold your hand at all. You have to pay attention, you have to like look at everything, remember where shit is. It's pretty hard. But I did have a few negatives with it. I think this game could have used more dinosaur variety, because after a while, you know, you see a lot of just the raptors, the raptors, raptors, and then they do throw sprinkle in some here and there, but I felt like they could have done a little bit more with it.

SPEAKER_04 54:39

That reminds me, Tander. I don't mean to cut you off, but I've I wanted to bring up that how I used to think of this game was this massive, huge facility, like this massive game. And now when I played through it again, I'm like, this is actually a really small game. Like there's just a few, really, just a few rooms.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

Yeah, it's not it's not that it's it's not that big at all, uh especially compared to the Spencer Mansion in Resident Evil 1. Like that one is probably probably double the size of this, if I guess. Yeah. And it didn't have a lot of boss fights, which is whatever. You know, I think that this game was kind of trying to make it to where each interaction with each dinosaur is kind of its own little boss fight. They're way more brutal than any zombie in Resident Evil.

SPEAKER_04 55:16

I think you can tell this was more of them trying something else versus them, you know, full budget, let's just haul ass and make this a massive Resident Evil style dynamic. They just like, let's try something else with this dinosaur game.

SPEAKER_02 55:27

Yeah, and there's something that's notorious with most games from the 90s, but particularly Capcom, the voice acting sucks. You can ba well, even the mixing, like I could barely hear what some of these people were saying half the time. Who was it, Barney? I just stick my ear to like my fucking TV to understand what they were saying because it was so muffled. But that's whatever. I mean, I you kind of go into that expecting it. But I I enjoyed the game because it was very difficult. I love survival horror games, and uh, this is more of what I want from a Capcom survival horror game, but I didn't love it as much as any Resident Evil game. I but I do think that this series has a lot of potential. I'm right there with Carter. This game really needs a remake or a reboot, whatever. Bring it back because that it has a lot of potential. I'm gonna give it the same as you, Carter, 6.5. I think that's a solid score.

SPEAKER_04 56:13

Yeah, that's honestly. I think it uh I think it benefits from being shorter nowadays. That way, you know, like hey, if you need to go back and play this one, you've got four hours to crank out, and then hey, you experienced it.

SPEAKER_00 56:23

Yeah. Jared. It was tough. It was hard for me to get into. You all know this is the opposite of what I like. Like, yeah, I'm not on a farm.

SPEAKER_02 56:32

It's kind of more anti-Jared Cook game than this. And so female protagonist, I will tell you You're nailing it, dude.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

But I will tell you this. The when I first booted it up, it was a morning that I had woke up early and finished some of my work early, and I had an hour, and I'm like, I'm gonna play this game. And I was in like 100% paying attention, and I was like, this is like to me, top-tier PS1 utilization of technology at that time because I was just watching like the intro to the game, how it's like it's given you like a uh like a breakdown, like we had this guy at this island, and like we've lost contact with him, and blah, blah, blah, blah. The voice acting on that, I know you all mention it's muffled later on and within the game, but like the intro to the game, I was like, I could see me in 99 or 2000 renting this game and putting it in and being like totally drawn into the story during a night. It's not for me, but like the presentation from the beginning, I was like, this is this has potential to be great. Like I could tell it was like a well-made game.

SPEAKER_02 57:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:41

That being said, I don't think I I didn't give it a good enough chance to rate it. I'm gonna let you all ride with the 6.5. For me, it would be a little lower just because I'm not this is not for me. I'm not a good dinosaur gamer. That's fine. But let's let's roll with the 6.5.

SPEAKER_02 57:56

I respect that you didn't like slap a score on it. Oh, you're just like, it is what it is. I didn't, you know, I I would have been I would have been the same way.

SPEAKER_04 58:03

This is one of those where you're like, I kind of skipped this one, guys. This one wasn't for me. I put some hours into it. No, no, no, it's fine. I'm not mad at all. Like, you're just like, hey, I know we're supposed to watch and review this movie this week. I didn't get to the theater. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 58:19

There were hours. I played, I walked around. It like I said, it took me 10, 20 minutes to figure out how to walk in this game. I was using the analog stick and I was like, nah, I can't do that. Yeah. So I I made my way around and I'm like pressing X everywhere I or X or circle to like inspect every fucking thing.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

And I will say this because Jared did say like this is like top-tier PS1. This is one of the best looking PS1 games I've ever seen. And compared to Resident Evil, I know I keep saying that. The Resident Evil games are like pre-rendered backgrounds. This is fully 3D. Like this looks like Metal Gear Solid to me in terms of like it's like 3D.

SPEAKER_04 58:56

I think that's why it's smaller because they really did the entire map that way.

SPEAKER_02 59:01

Resident Evil, you're looking at like a painting or a picture or a JPEG 90% of the time.

SPEAKER_04 59:06

Yeah. Like I said, this is a six, like I said, 6.5 game, but I mean, really good game. It's just it needs it's just it needs a facelift. Face control is definitely old. Yeah, that's what it needs. An update would make this game. I'd be on board day one.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

Alrighty, Carter. I like it, I like it. Alright, we're moving on to the wheel. We only have three games left. I think we have one of each of us. You want me to go ahead and say what they are? Because I think I know them. Yeah, yeah. There's only three left. We got my pick, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Red Rescue Team. We got Carter's pick, God of War, the original. And then we have fucking Jared over here with Star Fox 64 cranking out uh new games and characters and movies.

SPEAKER_04 59:47

So uh that's what we got. Here we go. Yeah, and I got the race ready to go. The Dino Crusader's ironically they're remaking, they're making a new Star Fox and they're remastering, or they're remaking, not remastering. They're doing a whole new God of War, like that storyline. They're completely rebuilding it. So that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:03

That's true. And Mystery Dungeons already been remade.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:06

They're gonna do it again. Let's get this thing started so we know what we're playing. And here we go.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:14

Oh, hell yeah. Some Wii Shop channel music.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:18

Nice. Oh, this is like a runaway. We will be playing Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:26

I love it. I've been waiting for this fucking game. This is a game I have no fucking clue what you all will think about at all. None. I have no clue. Like, I genuinely don't. My initial gut reaction is Carter will like it, Jared will think it's alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:41

Um that means. That's either good for one of us or bad for one of us. So it sucks.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

This is a very different game. The story is awesome, so don't go mashing through the cutscenes. Like, this is actually a game with a really fucking cool story to it.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:00

Um, we played Metal Gear Solid. I think we're okay on cutscenes.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:05

Yeah, we watched the Metal Gear Solid movie. What where can we play this at, Tanner?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:11

This is on the Switch. You can go to the Game Boy Advanced. Um, whenever I chose this game, this is a game that you the moment you start it, you have to take a personality test to determine what Pokemon you play as through the entire game. I don't want you all to refresh the game trying to get what Pokemon you want. If it gives you a fucking Geodude that you gotta play as a Geodude.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:34

I'm a Geodude. You're a Geodude, we're all Geodudes.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:39

Alright, well, here, here, real quick, real quick, before we end the pod, I'm gonna go through and uh name to you all. Every single because I think there's 16 different Pokemon that you can have and play as that you can potentially get. There's only one I would not want at all. Um, it's a Skitty, which is horrible.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:59

A wacky Pokemon.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:01

He's got I don't even think Geodude is a character you can get. I just pulled that out of my ass. Okay, this is all the ones you can play.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:08

Showing some good burger age. You can get I was hoping you'd pick up on that garter.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:13

You can get a Pikachu, uh Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charmander, Cyndaquil, Chikorita, Totodile, Trico, Torchic, Mudkip, Meowth, Q Bone, Machop, or a Skitty, and Eevee.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:27

Now, I got a Q bone once.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

Yeah, yeah. Well, you took the online quiz. Oh, yeah, I got a Q bone.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:33

So this is gonna be different.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

Q bone's not the No, you can get a Q bone in this game. You can play as a Q bone. I'm pretty sure Carter got a Machop, which you can get a Machop too. Uh, you can also get a the one I missed was a Psyduck. You can play as a Psyduck.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:46

So how many options are there again?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:48

There's ten within the first starters, like there's sixteen, sixteen uh different ones.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:52

So there's ten, like basically gen one through gen three starters, if you include Pikachu. Yeah. Nine and one. And then there's six others.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

Yeah. So boys, tonight, if you all start it tonight and just do that, send me what you all get, because I'm very curious to see what y'all get.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:08

Do it right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:09

Alrighty. Well, uh, we will be back, hopefully within a week. This game isn't too too long. I think we can get through it, even if we all don't beat it, we can get through it pretty quickly.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:18

See y'all next week.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:20

See ya.