Retro Jammers
Join the Retro Jammers: Carter, Jeff, Jerad, and Tanner as we play through retro games weekly and review how they play today. The podcast is designed to be like a book club in which games are chosen and played through. We highly encourage listeners to join in and play along weekly. We also take suggestions for our gaming wheel for the next game we play on Facebook and Twitter. Jam it in!
Retro Jammers
Episode 05 – Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team
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In this episode, Tanner, Carter, and Jerad talk about Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team. It was Tanner’s pick, so they go over their first impressions, what held up, what didn’t, and some of the moments they still remember. They also get into how it compares to other Pokémon games and why it stands out.
Welcome everybody to the Retro Jammers podcast. Today we're going to be talking about my pick Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team on the Gabbo Advance. Okay, I got it that time.
SPEAKER_04There we go. I love it because if I don't know if you noticed, even the title of this is Pokemon M D R E R E F D. Because I was like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team. That's a tough one.
SPEAKER_02Well, boys, it's good to be back. There was one big announcement I was wanting to make. We are now down to two games left for our season. We got Star Fox 64 and we got the original God of War on the PS2. That's the only two we got left. You can't lose. You can't lose. You cannot lose. And that was one thing I was wanting to tell the audience for those of you who aren't aware of our podcast and how we've done things forever. Usually after the start of like our initial season for season two, we want to incorporate the community or the listeners into it. For those of you who listened to the Yoshi's Island episode, you would know how we added two games each. At the end of every episode, we like roll it to see what we're going to get. Now I want, if you all want to, for the community games, I want you all to go to our Facebook group at Retro Jammers. Just go to Facebook, Retro Jammers will make a post. I want you to go on there and put in the comments what game you would want us to play. And I'll add it to I keep wanting to say Wheel Carter, but what is it? It's like a like a random.
SPEAKER_04It'll be a randomizer. But for this season, we started out with Yoshi's Island, so I found it like a dyno racer thing. But I mean, you can call it the wheel if you want to, and I'll download a wheel. I don't care. It's so iconic that we called it the wheel. We say iconic. Everyone else is like, this is like y'all's fourth episode. We don't know what you're even talking about.
SPEAKER_03So like people can just look up on social media retro jammers. Is that what you're saying? On Facebook, correct.
SPEAKER_02And you'll see a post being like, comment your community picks down below. We'll add it to whenever we reload the wheel again. I'm just going to call it the wheel, and then we'll see what we uh we land on. Because some of our best games we've ever had were community games. I think Bully was one of our highest rated. Uh, Chrono Trigger was our highest rated of all time. Oh.
SPEAKER_04As it should be.
SPEAKER_02I still think about him. Sometimes I'm like, God man, thank you for picking that. Because I've never played that before, and that was one of the best games I ever played on the podcast, definitely.
SPEAKER_03But something to keep in mind, like uh we have a huge, not huge, but there's a pretty big following that's international right now based on our statistics that doesn't so much show in the local Facebook channel, right? Right.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. There's a lot of listeners out there who aren't following us on Facebook. So you definitely want to get in on that because we're wanting to use it more. That's that's the thing with the podcast that I'm not very good at is uh like I love to edit, I love to record, I love to play the games, but when it comes to social media and stuff, I'm just not very good at it.
SPEAKER_03It's hard for me to just come on the be a man of the people, Tanner.
SPEAKER_02I can't do it all. If one of you guys, I know you guys are better at that than me.
SPEAKER_04Hey, I made the Mario Post today.
SPEAKER_02That is true. And we we got some traction from that Mario post.
SPEAKER_03Uh Crash Bandicoot suit and just run through Oceana and start advertising.
SPEAKER_04If I would lose in the fantasy football league, I would.
SPEAKER_03The full on. Do you know the Crash Bandicoot costume I'm talking about? From the old commercial.
SPEAKER_04I mean, the fool is the full suit.
SPEAKER_03The full on fucking suit's what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he wears that full on suit in the commercial, and he's standing outside of Nintendo headquarters going, Come on out and play plumber boy.
SPEAKER_03Your face might like be visible through his teeth, like under his nose. Is that what you're talking about?
SPEAKER_04No, this one's just a costume. Obviously, you'll want my face to be visible if you're gonna make me run through Ocean of wearing a friggin' crash bandico thing as a penalty.
SPEAKER_03I think we're talking about the same thing, but I I think you're not aware that the face can poke through the teeth in the middle.
SPEAKER_04Okay, and I think you're not aware that in the commercials it doesn't.
unknownI'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_04Joe's just gonna cut a fucking hole in the mouth of it if there's not.
SPEAKER_02Anyway. But I guess I'll put on my uh my toad diaper and run around.
SPEAKER_04There we go. Good advertising.
SPEAKER_03I thought at some point there was a bet where Tanner was gonna dress up as Toad, which means like a little vest with no undershirt. Basically an adult diaper.
SPEAKER_02Adult diaper with a mushroom on my head and like little brown shoes. No, I think it was whenever the podcast was big. I think you made a Twitter post and you were saying, like, if we can reach a hundred likes or something, Tanner has to do this and go to a McDonald's and have a meal in a toad outfit.
SPEAKER_04Oh, and you were down for it, and we didn't get a hundred likes.
SPEAKER_02That shameful. Yeah. That's gonna be if if I ever have to, that's gonna actually push me to work out. I don't want to be in a fucking toad outfit with my damn like man boobs.
SPEAKER_04Oh man, that was horrifying for me when I thought I was gonna have to run through town with my shirt off and stuff when I lost that year. I was like, oh my god, if I don't lose weight, I'm gonna look like a freaking pig on there just driving by going, sue!
SPEAKER_02Yeah, definitely not looking forward to that if that ever happens, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
SPEAKER_04Gotta be a man.
SPEAKER_02If you lose, you gotta man up. For sure. So yeah, yeah, definitely uh follow our Facebook group and keep an eye out for that post and start thinking of games for those of you out there because we want to play whatever you all suggest, whatever your favorite games are. I think the only thing I would say to limit it is uh RPGs. We love RPGs. Hell, we'll we'll talk about with Jared in a second. He's been playing an RPG basically all week, and uh I want to hear what his thoughts on it, but uh they're longer for our format because typically we only play a game for a week or two, and uh some games we can beat, some games we can't. RPGs, definitely not. We would get, I don't know, 5%, 10% in, and then you know, we'd have to review it, and that's not doing it justice. So anything other than RPGs is pretty much good for me. Unless it's like a Mario RPG, isn't that one kind of shorter? It's like a 10-hour sort of RPG.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, honestly, even if we don't limit it and they pick RPGs. Like if someone was like, I pick Final Fantasy VII, well hell, I can do that podcast tonight, you know. Like I can do the one that Jerry's playing, I can do that podcast tonight. Um, I mean, there's a lot of them, but they they would have to pick something outrageous for me to not be able to uh do it. Like if someone was like, like Chrono Trigger, I was ready for that one as soon as it was selected. I'd beat in pretty good. So it just depends. I think it would be ridiculous if they're like, hey, play Kingdom Hearts, and I've never played that before, then I'd be like, hey, that's like a 35-hour game, I think. Which isn't terrible, but like that's still that's a tall order.
SPEAKER_02Well, Jared, uh, like we were saying, you've been playing an RPG. What what has that been?
SPEAKER_03I've been playing a little bit of Final Fantasy IX, boys. Do you think that's the best Final Fantasy out there? Well, it's me and it's not Carter. Um I don't know. If you honestly want to hear what pushed me to do this, it's not like you know, I've tried to play nine before. This is probably my third attempt at like playing it all the way through. And I know Tanner kind of gets a feel, and I know Carter knows me too, but like I'm not a good game finisher. You all know that. Like, it has to be fucking good for me to finish, and I gotta have like the time in life to finish, which battles me a lot. What made me do this is for the fifth time in the cook household, one of our PS5s went down due to uh an HDMI port uh issue. So I I legit have three to four, maybe five, PS5s that are just they they're good. They just have no HDMI port that works. So I resorted back. Well, when I bought this re well, let me I I'm gonna go on a fucking rant. Go for it. Fuck you, Sony. This is in my opinion, and maybe I'm wrong. Maybe my boys are shitty at taking care of their systems. That's probably the truth, because they go like they'll take theirs to their my mother-in-law's house and like back and forth every now and then. But make a fucking HDMI port that is like durable. This is bullshit, man.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, I mean, even if you're unplugging it, plugging it in, you can be a little rough and you shouldn't break it unless you're absolutely like, hey, I want to jump off the top rope and just hold this and hope I land on it, you know.
SPEAKER_03I I've always been fool me once, shame on me, fool me fucking four times, shame on you, Tony, motherfuckers. But anyway, then they raise the console prices. God damn it, dude.
SPEAKER_02If you're gonna raise the price, how about you fix that fucking issue while you're at it?
SPEAKER_03And I don't even know if it's a big issue.
SPEAKER_02It's like when I bought this. I don't mean to cut you off, but have y'all ever seen videos on Facebook where like it will be uh someone in like a tech repair shop and then they're recording themselves and people come in and bring shit like hey dude, what's up? He's like, Well, I got a I got this and it's broke, that kind of shit. Well, I've seen so many of the PS5 people walking in and their HDMI ports don't work. That is the number one issue constantly.
SPEAKER_03It has to be a big one, like I said, like legit. This is our I've got two sons. Everybody's got a PS5. This is the seventh or eighth PS5 I've bought. Because let me back up. Like, I'm not just willing for thousands just chucking it. I'm not willing to fucking burn money in a fucking fireplace, but here's the thing the one time I decided to like do what I would think is the sensible thing, and is to pay some an expert, and I say expert in quotes, to fix a fucking HDMI port, which I'm not a good if I had fucking Carter and fucking Jeff Elkins in my disposal and like they were willing to do I know they know the shit, but they're busy. They're they're dads and they work. That's true. So so I decide to pay a guy in Beckley, West Virginia to fix this HDMI port. I do one of the PS5s as kind of a trial run. 200 bucks. Jesus. He fixes it. It works for two weeks and the HDMI port goes out again. So so then what are you to fucking do? My idea is to buy the new console. But anyway, I said all that to say this. The only fucking reason that I started playing Final Fantasy IX is I'm PS5 poor right now. I literally bought one tonight for myself. All kinds of them.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's probably been through ten of them. What now? Didn't you say you've been through 10 of them? Like 10 PS5?
SPEAKER_03I said probably eight, Tanner. I don't know. 10 will make me cry. Eight's not that far from ten.
SPEAKER_04It's pretty damn close, Jared. It's like I've got eight of these $500 600 PLS machines laying around.
SPEAKER_03I got a boxed one right now. I might save that shit for November and just open it up when GTA 6 comes out. But uh anyway, the reason I started FF9 is I was off. I had too much vacation buildup, so I had to take a little bit of time off from work, and I took off Monday through Wednesday this past week, which I played a little bit of Tanner's game, the little dungeon, dungeon, Pokemon Dungeon, mystery dungeon. But uh that that didn't occupy my hunger for me sitting in the recliner for a hundred hours straight. So I downloaded Final Fantasy IX to the Switch 2.
SPEAKER_04100 hours in the recliner, man.
SPEAKER_03Shoot. It was a good time, Carter. Couldn't imagine. I started Final Fantasy IX. And it was a good time. It's damn good. I mean, me and you've talked about this before. I know the people listening, the the listeners we have, I'm sure they know nine versus seven. Eight apparently universally sucks. Sorry if you're an eight fan. I've never tried it, so I can't say that.
SPEAKER_04I've started eight, but I've never actually got into it. It's more of a what I can tell, it's more of like a love story type of Final Fantasy. But it's apparently I had uh a buddy at work who loved Final Fantasy VIII, so yeah, it's like the black show. Not too many of those.
SPEAKER_03I should probably try.
SPEAKER_04Jared's beating around the bush of what he's trying to say, and that is Final Fantasy IX better than seven.
SPEAKER_03See, I don't agree, Carter.
SPEAKER_04I like this time around, and used to talk about the remake of seven, or because that's a completely different game.
SPEAKER_03I agree, but this time around, I've played nine and I'm happy. I'm pumped right now. I'm having a great time with nine. I'm probably 15 hours in of nine, which is a decent amount. But the more I play it, the more I'm like, seven is more for me. Like, I I think nine, here's the difference. Seven does that steampunk and a little bit more adult themed stuff. Nine seemed a little bit more, and I hate to say it, but like kiddie, but it's it's more medieval.
SPEAKER_02It's more it's like more traditional Final Fantasy than seven. Seven was kind of just out of nowhere. I mean, just the game and like Barrett's fucking cussing ass.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Like I just like that. I like that better.
SPEAKER_04I played the hell out of seven, right? Like, I've beat seven to death. I've not played nine in a very long time. When I was playing through nine, though, I was just remembering playing through it and be like, damn, this is probably like better than seven. Now, the one heel that I'll die on is Final Fantasy Tactics might be the best Final Fantasy game, period.
SPEAKER_02I have the remake of that on the uh PS5. Whenever I uh stayed at West Virginia for a month, that was one of the games I bought. Still haven't even touched it at all. But it's apparently a full remake with full voice acting.
SPEAKER_04It's always been voice acted.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's always been voice. I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_04No, wait, let me think about it. No, maybe not. It's been a long time since I've uh played that one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Carter thought his SNES version was voice acted.
SPEAKER_04SNES, no, PS1. I grew up playing it on PS1. Because I remember when I bought it, my brother was like, that's not even a Final Fantasy game. That just teaches you the tactics of how to play the game. I was like, well, I bought it, so then I brought it home and I remember it being like, damn, this is good.
SPEAKER_02In terms of Final Fantasy, I've only beat seven. I beat seven, the original, I beat seven the first part of the remake, and then I got really close in rebirth. And I think the the part three of that comes out next year. So that's that's gonna be exciting. Whenever that comes out to finish that whole like trilogy of it.
SPEAKER_03Man, that's a good game.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah. Uh what about you, Carter? Have you been playing anything else other than Mystery Dungeon? Or I've been playing Mystery Dungeons.
SPEAKER_04I've been playing a little RuneScape at work.
SPEAKER_03I didn't know if he'd mention that, but Carter's been fucking money.
SPEAKER_02If I play RuneScape, he's looking at a bunch of coal mines and just clicking it non-stop. I have not seen him move from that coal.
SPEAKER_04I'm trying to get so you can you know how you can make all games more fun, right? Like Pokemon gets better when you do it as a Nuzlocke challenge. Yeah, I'm doing RuneScape as an Iron Man, and I'm doing it like to where I can only equip what I can make myself. So everything I have, I make myself. So I'm like, if I want to wear Mithril, I have to get to where I can smith mithril. And that's been a hell of a grind. But you know, while I'm like in meetings and stuff, I'll just click and I'll keep doing my thing, whatever, and sometimes it'll log me out because I've got actual work I gotta do. And sometimes I'll just click on the next one and just slowly grind. No, no, this is like a newer-ish character. I'm not like like I play it, but I've never sat there and grinded out to get like my highest stat right now will be like mining, and it's 69. It's not even 70 yet. It's just a game.
SPEAKER_02I remember a few years ago, uh your version of sitting there clicking on coal was you fishing on the side of like I'm assuming Lumbridge, like on the on the s on the riverbank. I didn't know if you had that maxed out or not on one of your characters.
SPEAKER_04I got it up to 79. I was literally taking phone calls, and in the middle of phone calls, I'd be clicking on a different fishing spot, and I did that for weeks, and then I remember on Friday, I'd be like, well, it's lobby Friday, and I would just change it up and catch lobsters all day. And I would do that cons constantly for weeks on end, and I only got up to 79. I couldn't imagine how long it takes to get to the up to like 99. It's ridiculous. Because I did it for months like that, man.
SPEAKER_03Are we going to fish at Lumbridge?
SPEAKER_02There was one thing I was wanting to say. I want this to be like a power of the pod. Like, if we had a soundboard for a podcast, this would be it. The power of the pod, like have some sort of like uh alarm or something for it. Did you all see where uh old fucking roller coaster tycoon is now available on the PS5? Right after we talked about it and fucking Carter bought it for me and himself.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well Jared already had it, and I bought it for Jeff Hilkins too, our producer.
SPEAKER_02Isn't that not scary though? Like, isn't that because when Jared sent that, I was just like, okay, this is unreal. Like, how the fuck this fucking PC game from the 90s is now on the PS5, like two days after Carter brings it up.
SPEAKER_04Or it was on sale because it was getting ready to launch everywhere, and it just happens to be a big coincidence, like every 50 other times that's happened.
SPEAKER_03Wow. Carters don't believe in the power of the pod.
SPEAKER_04Didn't you hear the joke? Like the 50 other times that that's happened. Like Terry's like, you're a non-believer.
SPEAKER_03I'm like, uh, it's happened too many times. Like, and I know that's the big thing is like, let's make money off our old IPs and blah blah blah. We're all profit video game shit. But man, if we haven't hit more than we missed, I don't know what we're doing. What will sell me, Tanner? This will this is what will set like it's a real thing, spirit-wise. If River King ever gets a fucking remake or something happens to River King, then I'll be like, Yeah, the power of the pot.
SPEAKER_02You threw it out there, the gods have heard you, it will happen within a month. Mark my words. It's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_03I'll be down the video a couple more times. That Sumi announced it's like, man, we're new River King handed the Switch 2.
SPEAKER_02River King, a wonderful journey, HD is now coming to us.
SPEAKER_04They're like, hey, HD River King, it's the same game, but now it's gonna be in 4K. $79.99, Switch 2 exclusive.
SPEAKER_02Yep. Well, everyone uh keep an eye out. I'm I'm sure in the next fucking episode there's gonna be another Power of the Pod segment. I'm gonna have to sit there and bring it up, and it's gonna be River King, so stay tuned for that. So uh you River King finish this get ready.
SPEAKER_04Hey, if it's River King, you all really need to tune in, because uh just tell us what you want us to talk about and we'll bring it up.
SPEAKER_02Well, boys, let's go ahead and uh get into Pokemon here. Well, before we get into Pokemon, obviously I like to talk a little bit about some things leading up to it. We've talked about Pokemon and our history with it like pretty extensively in the past. When on the Pokemon Gen 1 episode, I'm pretty sure we went in detail about it. In the unreleased 10, 12 times we've talked about Gen 2, we talked about it at nauseum. So instead of like having to repeat ourselves for that kind of stuff, I was wanting to talk more about like what this game is, where it's like a side Pokemon game. Because, you know, obviously people play Pokemon for the main line games, but Pokemon's known for having a long list of like these side little games and stuff. And I was wanting to know if you all ever played any of them growing up, like um like the one on the 64 friends, like Pokemon Stadium, Pokemon Snap, any of that, like any of those. Do y'all have any experience with them?
SPEAKER_03I had Stadium. I played Stadium 2 at a sleepover once, and it was a good ass time. Stadium one, like, it never appealed to me the way people play it now, which I know like the Pokemon battle, like I can still hear some of the bull, like the announcer's voice today, like, one hit wonder. But you what the golden part of that game was the mini games, the multiplayer mini games. I remember that, yes. That made Pokemon Stadium. Two was the same way. I never had it. I still don't have it to this day. Hey You Pikachu was pretty innovative and pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02See, I never that was a game that I would always go over your sister's like over your house, and your sister would have it in her collection, but for whatever reason, you all must have lost the microphone to it or whatever. For those of you who don't know, Hey You Pikachu is a game on the N64 where you communicate with Pikachu through like a microphone, and he's like your little buddy, and like you just kind of hang out with him and talk to him and that kind of thing. But I never got to play it because y'all never had the microphone or we couldn't find it.
SPEAKER_03Um I still have the adapter that goes into the console, and then you can hook up any microphone that has like a audio jack adapter to the microphone, but it's not very good. Like the voice was never very clear. I mean, it's it it just wasn't very it didn't work good. The idea was great. I'll be honest, and I'm sure Little Brooke, if she would ever listen to this podcast or was here today, would agree. Some of the coolest ones were the GameCube era, like the spin offs, like the uh Pokemon TV. Is that Pokemon Channel Channel? Okay, thank you. That was a blast, and I was kind of that's interesting. The age I was a little bit like too cool for Pokemon, but still liked it, so I like I watched Little Brooke play it a lot in the 13, 14 when that came out. Yeah, maybe a little bit older, but like it was good. Like I remember watching her play.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, me too. Like I played that with her a lot, and we say play, but it's really not a game that you play, really. It's like you have a TV there and you tune into these different Pokemon channels. And I remember one of them was like a shop channel where you could buy stuff for your room that you was in. Like you would go in there and you would buy stuff to decorate your room with. There was a a channel where it was like very trivia-based, like it would be like these trivia questions. There was one where there was like an auction house or something. I I know what you're saying. It was a very unique. Like I can't believe that was a game back then.
SPEAKER_03That was pretty cool. Like yeah, well, it was cool. It was very different for sure. People love the like spin-offs on the GameCube, like XD and the other ones.
SPEAKER_02Uh Coliseum. They're XM.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm pretty sure one of them just got added to the Switch on the GameCube thing. I think it was Gal of Darkness XD. Those are fantastic games. Like if you ever wondered what like a a proper 3D sort of Pokemon game is, oh well, I know we have them today, but those are fucking trash. These were really like great.
SPEAKER_03I've got both on physical and I've never played them, which is kind of sad.
SPEAKER_02Those are expensive games. I'm not gonna lie. I think like Gale of Darkness is probably 200 bucks alone. I've got them both. You have that little Pokemon shelf there with all that stuff. Which uh you had Mystery Dungeon, like the cartridge of it, didn't you? I do. I can see it from here. Did you so that tells me that you all must have had this game growing up, right?
SPEAKER_03I'm guessing that's more of a little brook thing that I inherited after mom's fire slash Brooke moving away, but like that wasn't me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I wasn't I wasn't sure about that. I have played Pokemon Stadium, and I really wish our producer was here because we played at his old house one time. He had the 64 hooked up to Pokemon Stadium. We picked our teams, I beat him. We picked our teams again, I beat him. So we had somebody else pick our teams for us. I beat him a third time, and then he called bullshit, like you know, someone else like rigged our teams. So we swapped the exact same Pokemon, and then I beat him again. So I really wish he was on here. Because I mean I just beat the hell out of him. I thought that was you and you and Kelly. Is that you and Jeff? Oh, it's me and Jeff, yeah. I beat Jeff. I took Jeff to someone and beat his ass.
SPEAKER_03I've heard this story for sure, but I always thought it was you and Kelly, not you and Jeff.
SPEAKER_02Nope, me and Jeff. Did Jeff have a Geo dude in his on his team? Or a perhaps.
SPEAKER_04Um I forget what all he picked when he had that regular team, but our last ones that we had was I had like Charizard, Pikachu, and I think Blastoise or something.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04And then he had like Arbok, Weezing, um, and I for maybe Meowth. Because they were Team Rocket.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04It was Team Rocket versus uh Pokemon. So the guy who picked him for us was like, You seen what I was trying to do. So obviously Jeff was mad about it. So we trade and I take the Team Rocket Pokemon, he has Ashes, and then I beat him again.
SPEAKER_03Here recently there was a true Jeff Elkins three Pokemon like evolution set that came out. I think it was Sword and Shield. There was like uh Rolly Coley, which is like a little piece of coal, and then there's like car coal, which is the actual cart, and then it its third evolution is Colossal, Colossal, which is this big coal fueled rock man. That's as Jeff Elkins' Pokemon gets.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, a rolling coal, baby. Like in terms of Pokemon, I always associate him with a hoot hoop now, and I just can't not see it. Why is that, Tanner? Oh well, that's Jared's little fucking side stories that he made up about me, you, and Jeff. So he could uh delve more into that. There was something that we would like talk about in terms of like, man, if we could make a Pokemon like side story to where there was three separate stories about Tanner, Carter, and Jeff. And and like Jared wrote a script for each of them and how they would like interconnect, sort of. But we all each three, like the one thing that like bonds us together or we have in common is that we have a bird that like is like our Pikachu. So mine was Dodoo, Carter's was Wingle, and Jeff's was hoodoo. But I I remember specifically Jeff's backstory was something like he Jeff's a coal miner and he was going working hoodai one night. He goes and like it like what is it, like a rock falls on him or something and crushes his leg. And then a little hoodoo comes up and like helps him, like he like he's like sitting there like helping him pick up the rocks to like save him.
SPEAKER_03I don't remember the details.
SPEAKER_02I the you remember the details.
SPEAKER_03You made it. But here's the thing like I I might be the creator, but the thing is, like, the fact that you all that are all three bird trainers is coincidental. I had no plan on that. Like when I just started from the city. Randomizing just in my mind randomized it. Like it's just fucking pure chance. I thought Jeff was working hoodow for a couple weeks, and this old hood hoot that hangs out outside of the mines was just there for a little while, and Jeff was would come into work and had a few leftovers in his uh bucket, his uh lunchbox, lunch pail, whatever you want to call it. In West Virginia, they caught a bucket, and he would fucking open it up and tear off a couple little pieces of bread and throw it over to that hoot hoot, and hoot hoot ate it. And hoot hoot learned to really like Jeff, and then one day Jeff did get in trouble down in the mines. Hoothoot helped him out, and they were fucking inseparable after that.
SPEAKER_02Like I can see the five like episode arc. Like it's not like a fool's show or nothing. It's like, you know, an anime Pokemon style, five-episode little run of Jeff.
SPEAKER_03Jeff talking shit about Pokemon. Shit about Pokemon trainers, like people need to fucking get a work ethic and get a job and help out with society, these fucking Pokemon trainers, blah, blah, blah. But that hoot hoot really took a liking to Jeff, and Jeff liked the hoot hoot.
SPEAKER_02It opened his his horizons a little bit. He sees the world differently now. I don't know what Carter's story was. All I know is that he had a wingle, and where Carter was in the Navy in real life. He was like on a boat with a bunch of guys, and they had like war turtles and like cool stuff, and Carter had this wingle and they would make fun of him for it. Or something like that.
SPEAKER_03That's pretty much it. Carter was in the Navy, he was on a naval ship. A lot of people had these big tough Pokemon.
SPEAKER_04Carter getting made fun of by a bunch of people. I mean, that's pretty pretty good.
SPEAKER_03Carter's out there, and that uh I think some a couple of the seamen, Navy people, sorry.
SPEAKER_04Uh I mean, why are you apologizing? That's their title, seaman. But the seamen.
SPEAKER_03Some people take that word for other things, but uh they they pushed Carter down and was talking shit to him because he didn't scrub the deck quite right, and that wingle came down and was fucking snappy towards him and defended Carter, and Carter made friends with the wingle. And damn it, if that wasn't the toughest wiggle you ever saw.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. That's a beautiful story as well. And I know we're we're about to get in the mystery dungeon, but if we're gonna recap mine, I know it was something to do with my abusive fault. Well, no, here's the thing with Jared and me.
SPEAKER_01Here's the thing with Jared and me.
SPEAKER_02I'm 27 years old, but Jared thinks I'm 13, and I think that will never change. So in every single like piece of media, like Jared sees me as a little kid.
SPEAKER_04Always a child in every single thing that he does.
SPEAKER_02Always, always Tanner's Big Adventure. Tanner's big advantage. Like I'll I'm gonna be 13 years old in his mind until when I'm 60. I I'm gonna be 13 years old. But in his story, I'm a 13-year-old kid and I have a dodoo, and I have a very abusive father in this store, and he's like cussing me out in my closet, screaming at me. I had enough one night, and I'm like, I'm out of this fucking place. And I just get on my doduo and ride off into the sunset. But that's where I meet Carter on the beach. He's sitting there, he he like left his like navy, and he's sitting there like with his wingle, and I'm like, hey, can I like sit here by your campfire?
SPEAKER_03Eight-year-old Tanner approaches 35-year-old Carter.
SPEAKER_02He would make these AI like images look look just like an actual anime. And I was like, this looks questionable. Because me and Carter are sleeping like side by side, and I'm like the full eight-year-old. I'm like, what is this?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it got yeah. Damn. I was just like, and there it is again.
SPEAKER_02But we're gonna uh we should email Nintendo if we have permission to make these animes. See if they'll uh let us know.
SPEAKER_04Can you all show us some AI generated content from that story you were telling?
SPEAKER_03I mean, I know we're going into mystery dungeon, but did they not get rid of Ash Ketchup? I mean, did he not finally fucking finish his story?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think his arc is over.
SPEAKER_03So didn't they bring like a new character in? I have no idea. I just remember that making the headlines.
SPEAKER_04They did bring in a new character. Nobody knows who it is because nobody watches it anymore, because nobody cares.
SPEAKER_03So that's my thoughts. Like, I think fucking uh Carter, Wingle, Tanner, Doduo, Jeff, Hoot Hoot would sell. Bring me on. I don't like my job right now. I don't like what I I mean, I don't hate it, but like Nintendo, Pokemon, whoever.
SPEAKER_04That's why you get paid to work, man. There's no job that you'll end up loving. Bring me on right now.
SPEAKER_03Let's let's do this anime. I got three ideas.
SPEAKER_02If me and Jared can't get hired on it that Sumi to save their company, let's just do this. Let's make the fucking Pokemon anime trilogy and call it a day. I can be a writer.
SPEAKER_04It gets reviews and it's just like, yeah, we can't release this story. Why the hell not? You have a 35-year-old man color on an eight-year-old boy, and you can't think of an audience. We don't think our audience parents want to see that.
SPEAKER_03What the fuck's wrong with Carter?
SPEAKER_04There's nothing wrong with Carter. Don't do that. Jared's like, get your mind out of the gutter.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04Alrighty, all right.
SPEAKER_02Let's move on to Mystery Dungeon. All right. So let's talk about the game of the hour here. Uh, I picked this game. This is a game I actually have in uh not an interesting story, but like Jared usually has a story for each game he got, and for me, it's not as like sensational like that. I I just got them for a birthday or a Christmas, and it's that's pretty much the end of it. But this one, for whatever reason, I remember specifically getting, and it was kind of weird. I at the time, me and my stepbrother, we were huge into Pokemon, and we heard about this game coming out, I think probably in a Nintendo Power, if I had to guess. And I remember telling my mom about it, being like, oh man, I really want this game. And this never happened ever. But and me and Austin, his name was Austin. We went up to her and we're uh tell Austin Steffi, my stepbrother, and we was uh telling her about it, and she was like, Okay, let's go get it. Like, let's just go to Walmart and go. I was like, What? I was like, okay, so we get in the car and we're going there. But the thing is, Austin has a DS, one of them original gray ones, like the fat ones. I don't have a DS yet, I just have a Game Boy Advance SP. And the thing about this game is that there was two of them released on the same day. One of them was Red Rescue Team for the Game Boy Advance, one of them was Blue Rescue Team for the DS. There's really not really any differences, but they had two different versions on two different systems. So I got Red Rescue Team, he got Blue Rescue Team. But the thing is, I also on that day, I remember getting the Game Boy player from a GameCube. She got me that too on top of it. I was like, holy fuck, this is insane. Yeah. So I came home and that I was playing this game on my TV, and that was pretty much how I played it the entire time I had it. Uh I well, I played it on the road every now and then too, but like this game was just so unique to me. Like I never played anything like it. And Carter, would you say this game is a roguelike? Uh really primitive, like kind of kiddie version of a roguelike.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's a roguelike, and you can tell it's I mean, it's older, obviously, and it was made for the Game Boy Advance, so it they only had so much to work with, right? Like the A, the B button, that's that the first you got. So you could tell it's a little bit older for sure. But yeah, I'd consider it more of a roguelike, I guess, because you're going through each dungeon and you're just kind of going to the next. I don't know if the were the dungeons now. I was gonna ask you this because I don't know if they're all the same or if they're just randomly generated.
SPEAKER_02I think they're random. They're random. Yeah, randomly generated.
SPEAKER_04That's what I thought. Okay, because there were some levels I would show up on, and it reminded me of Dragon Warrior Monsters, because you just show up there, and sometimes the uh tunnel to the next or I guess the next floor is right there, and sometimes you gotta really search for it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this was the first game I ever played like that. And I never considered this game to be one until I played it for this most recent playthrough. And I'm like, no, this was kind of like Dark Cloud, even like when we played that, it's it's a lot like this where you're in a dungeon and you're going down pre-generate generated levels and stuff. But the one thing that I loved about this game, and it's it's so minor, and it really doesn't it's like five minutes of time, but it's like at the beginning where you do the personality test and you get your your Pokemon. I was laughing my ass off, Jared, because you made it like a full night of like you and your two boys and their friend, like you like interviewed them like a damn detective to see what they would get.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we had a friend stay the night that night, like my boy's friend, and I made all three of them take it and just to see what they would get.
SPEAKER_02Let's go over what we got. I got Charmander, which is weird because this is the same Pokemon I got as a kid. Every time I've ever played this game, I always get a Charmander. Never change standard. Stay who you are. I guess so. I'm just destined to be a Charmander. But I want to be a Squirtle, because that was who I picked for as my partner. Squirtle's my favorite Pokemon of all time. So I mean Charmander's cool and all, but I'm like, God, I just I really wish I could be Squirtle.
SPEAKER_04It's a good duo, though. Charmander and Squirtle. I was Mudkip. Mudkip. And I chose Bulbasaur, who was, you know, my favorite 10 month starter. So I like it.
SPEAKER_03Dawson also got Mudkip. Like my oldest son. Mudkip was him. He was more into it than Owen. I got Torchic. Happy with the heart checks out. I mean, I'm not happy or sad, but like basically I named myself Dad, and then I named Dawson the Mudkip. Like I chose Mudkip as my partner because he just took it before me. And I was like, this will work out good. So like I had dad as the Torchick, Dobby as the Mudkip.
SPEAKER_02The one thing that is uh or about this game is I know you all didn't get too too far uh based on what I could tell, but uh this game is very story-driven. It starts out like you like we said what you take this personality test and then you pick your partner, and then it starts out with you being a Pokemon, but you are confused because you wake up, you have amnesia, and you like were a human at one point in time. And you meet your partner and they're sitting there talking, like, what the hell? Like you're the whole game is discovering how you turn into a human as you play. Like the more and more I I don't want to spoil it for people because this story is really cool for a Pokemon game. It's very well written and it's pretty well paced. But the one thing I will say about this game is it is extremely grindy. And maybe that's like a uh a thing for this genre, because I haven't really played many of them, but it with this playthrough, I remember like the story advancing a lot quicker in my mind. But there was a lot of times where it was just kind of like going to the bulletin board, picking a few missions, going to the same dungeon again, saving the people, going back, you get a little bit of money, you go buy like items for your next run. It's very grindy. Uh, I think it was primarily designed for that because it's a handheld game, and you're gonna be sitting there, you know, playing it on a bus, playing it on a trip or something, and and they wanted to get like a lot of time out of it. But that was one thing I was just like, man, because I remember I did beat this game as a kid, and I'm just like, God, this story is advancing so slow. So I went and looked up the amount of time it takes to beat this game, and it's a 30-hour game. It's by far the longest game on our season. Like, yeah. Once I seen that, I was like, oh shit, no, they're not beating this. This is not a good thing.
SPEAKER_04No, no, it was and I and I apologize because it was like I said, going through it, it was something I wanted to beat, but it was very grindy. Like you could tell this is one of those, like it it is a dungeon crawler, which is fine. Like, I love that kind of stuff, that grind. Hell, I play old school runescape, guys. I'm cool with the grind. But uh the whole like I could tell what it was was you go to the bullet board, you do these lists, and you'll be doing a lot of the same stuff over and over, going to different levels, sure, but you'll it seems like you'll be doing a lot of the same stuff just to get more points so you can level up your team. You can tell if I'm wrong, but that seems like the gist of what you're doing to get.
SPEAKER_02That's probably you know 90% of what you're doing. Uh like later on in the game, you will unlock the ability to like sometimes randomly if you're in a dungeon and you like attack an enemy, and right before they die, they will like kind of surrender and be like, Hey, can I join your your team?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, I had that happen for sure. Yes. Yeah, I had that happen.
SPEAKER_02But you wasn't it like me, Brooke, and uh Dobby on your little team when I say that.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Carter was a Magnemite.
SPEAKER_02You name Carter that. Yeah, yeah. That's like, why didn't you name Carter that? It's like that's like the most Carter Pokemon ever.
SPEAKER_04I had uh I had a Ratata and a Magnemite and a Weedle. And I think it was really hard because like I feel like the game almost pushed some Pokemon on you. Like the Magnemite when it leveled up would get so much stats, like five hit points and a bunch of stats to level up. Ratata, when it would level up, would get like one hit point, one special defense. And I was like, it sucks. Then it gained another level and it's up through the mess. So I gained it three levels and it sucked the whole time. And I was like, maybe it just sucks on this game in like real life.
SPEAKER_03For for Tanner, there, like, do these Pokemon evolve?
SPEAKER_02That was one thing I remember as a kid. I didn't know the specifics, and I looked this up. Uh, I remember my Charmander becoming a Charizard at one point. I looked it up. You cannot evolve the Pokemon until you beat the game. Which I'm like, what? That is so stupid.
SPEAKER_04That's a letdown, man. I was really hoping that I would be able to kept because I got Bulbasaur up. He was like level 16 or something.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you was probably ready for him to level up or something.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I was like level 15, 16. I was like, when the hell are we going to evolve?
SPEAKER_02Maybe they wanted you to retain kind of small or whatever.
SPEAKER_04In the game, it tells you like no one's been able to evolve since all the earthquakes and stuff have happened. That is yep, that is true. I was like, oh my god, we're probably not gonna be able to evolve. And then we kept leveling up. I'm like, guess we're not evolving.
SPEAKER_02The uh the one thing I will say is like where this game we played the GBA version and where this had the DS version, you could tell that this GBA version had a lot of information to cram into one screen because on the DS version, you know how the map would kind of like just smear all over the the camera as you're going? Like it would just like kind of complaints. That's primarily on the bottom screen of the DS, so it's not in your face. That's one thing I'm just like, oh my god, I forgot all about that. Because it covers up the entire screen.
SPEAKER_04I mean, it's not a big disappointment thing or anything, but I was just like, is there anything I can do to make it smaller? Nope, it's just there. I'm like, okay. I will say though, this is a very I was not expecting it to look to be what it was. Um Mystery Dungeon, once we start, I'm like, okay, this is a Dungeon Crawler, because I've played plenty of Dungeon Crawlers where you're literally just it's the same kind of formula. You're just going to a level, you're just going through, you're grinding through it, you're getting to a boss, then you're advancing the story.
SPEAKER_03Carter's a big Diablo guy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. This is uh I guess if you want to say it's similar. Because it is out there in the open world. So yeah, yeah, it's similar.
SPEAKER_02I will say this, it does have it, it it definitely warrants it being a Pokemon Dungeon Crawler because it does it it incorporates like how Pokemon have like movesets, like the type advantages and all that stuff. So let's say like a uh like a bulbasaur comes up on you and you you're playing a Charmander, you can go and use your moveset and kill it instantly. Like that kind of stuff is cool. I like that. And also like the items, like what you would get in a Pokemon game, like Auron berries and stuff like that, you can use, which that's cool. I don't know if that's like how Diablo games are, like in turn. I don't think so. I feel like that's more of like a exclusive to Pokemon, right? What like Oran berries? No, like how there's like type type advantages and stuff. I'm assuming in that game it's more about classes, right? Like you you pick your class.
SPEAKER_04Oh, you have different classes, but there are like enemies that are weak to fire. You can make a fire class, you can do lightning. I mean, there's stuff you can do to do more damage to certain things, but yeah. So it's it is similar to a Diablo style game. But I mean, if you think about it in the title, it's called Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Red Rescue Team. So now I'm like, that's where the dungeon comes from. It's literally like a dungeon crawler. It's just a Pokemon. And I did think the story was pretty interesting. This was one that I I really wanted to get more into, but for some re there was just something there where I was just like, I don't know if it was me, but I'm not really getting into it. Into it. I felt like when I was walking around with the two Pokemon, they would do some weird stuff sometimes. Like if I have a Enemy in front of me, I can like move myself out of the way, and then like every time you move is a turn, I guess.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, it was pretty uh, but you could tell it was just, I mean, an older game, uh, which is cool. That's what we do. But uh that genre has definitely been perfected since this game's come out.
SPEAKER_02It's it's a cool game. This game actually got remade, believe it or not, back in three or four years ago. So this game has a full remake on the Switch, and it I'm sure I'm assuming that they fixed a lot of the issues that this game has. And it looks really good. It's like very like stylized and it looks really cool. I like this this style of game, uh, but this is definitely like an a kitty introductory kind of thing to it. So it I I want to play a Diablo style of game because I like this concept. Whenever we played Dark Cloud, I was like, man, this this game is fun as shit because it had that same similar thing where you go down a dungeon, you get stuff, you you come back up, you get stronger. It's like that kind of pattern to me is super addictive and super fun. I just think that this game needed to be a little bit less grindy, a little bit more fleshed out in terms of like being able to evolve would have been very nice and very cool. It gave you something to work towards. The one thing I will say though, and you all didn't get that that far, this game's hard as shit. Like there was so many times where, and I think it's the AI, because there was one thing where I was facing a Zapdos. There's a boss fight where you face a Zapdose. I had Squirtle on my team, I had Charmander. He would never, ever attack me. Like he would just go over to uh Squirtle and just fucking Thunderbolt, Thunderbolt, Thunderbolt, and like Squirtle would be on his nearly on his deathbed every time, and I would just I probably gave Squirtle every oron berry I had to keep him alive, and I beat him, but I'm like, geez, like this is like and you have to grind a lot. Like you can't like go into these like uh story dungeons and like go to these boss fights without having the levels. Like you have to make sure that you're well stocked up, your levels are high. It's an interesting game.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I had that feeling that that's how it was going to be because uh like I said, I got what about four or five hours into it, so I'm I mean not as far as I would have liked to have been. Right. But um I could tell this is literally like you have to grind because you have those job lists, you have to go do the jobs, you have to go to these different dungeons. I hated getting some of the job lists that were like in the tiny forest, because I'm like, uh there's no point in me going there right now.
SPEAKER_02You get no XP and the ones I hated were the escort missions. I don't know if you ever had any of those where you had to escort someone to oh my I hated it because every fucking time one Pokemon would be come up from behind and they have no health whatsoever, the people you got to escort, and they would like kill them in one hit, and then you would have to restart the entire level again. I'm like, oh yeah, I hate it. I would be like 10 or 10 or 11 floors deep into a level and then they die and have to do it all again.
SPEAKER_04Right, and so that was one of the things that I was going to say was really tough for me was the grind. And it wasn't just that it was the grind, it's just like the game's combat mechanics are interesting, but I wouldn't describe them as very fun. Like it's a lot of uh like when you you can attack diagonal if you hold down, I think it was R and then making look a certain way, so you can attack diagonally. That way you can help out when stuff's happening, or you're gonna get lit up if you try to move beside something. I learned that out pretty early. But I don't know, it was just like it was hard for me to be like, okay, I'm gonna go through these levels and just completely grind my Pokemon in the top shape, because I would go through and it's like I would go floor by floor and just go through every single area, just leveling everything to try to level up, and it was like taking forever to grind up any levels. So it was really tough to grind. It was a really tough grind.
SPEAKER_02It's a game I have a lot of nostalgia with. Well, actually, let's just go ahead and get into our scores. I'm gonna go ahead and put another one.
SPEAKER_04Okay, well I was gonna say Ratata and them. Uh I think one of the hard things before we you jump to your score, because I know you've got to go first because it's your game.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I would try grind them up to where Rattata was like level 9, level 10, then we go to a level, you know, that he should be way okay for, and then he was still getting like one hit. That's what I was talking about. Like other men, I don't know if I can do anything with this guy. I think I just can't use Rattata in this game. That's what I was saying.
SPEAKER_02Like that would have been nice for the majority of them that aren't you and your partner. I feel like they didn't give them the proper health. They're just kind of like these little third wheels who just kind of are there, maybe we'll get a hit or two in and then they die.
SPEAKER_04And like, yeah, Wheedle was the same way, and then uh when they talked about them not evolving, I was like, well, damn, I can't really use anything then yet.
SPEAKER_03Like, do If Carter's eradicate, it's bullshit.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's like what the fuck? No, but uh, I was like, uh, so if I don't befriend like uh like a B drill or something, if they surrender and I can't get them, does that mean I just can't get a B drill in this game? Or the same thing for like I don't know if I'd ever get to a level you could tell me, is there Charizard's in a level somewhere or fully evolved?
SPEAKER_02Uh no. Well the Charizard is kind of a uh main character.
SPEAKER_04I don't know if you've seen's little Charizard and a Tyranitar. The fucking dream team, baby. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I took down the Meanies.
SPEAKER_02Okay, well at least you yeah, you did that. Okay. But yeah, anyway, I'll I'll go ahead and hop into my score. Uh this is a game I have a lot of nostalgia with. It's still a quality game, I think. Like visually looks great. The uh the soundtrack's very, you know, fun, and it that that's great and all. It's a cool introductory game to a roguelike like this. I feel like if a kid played this like I did, they would have a blast with it. I love the little personality quiz at the beginning that always makes it to where each people, like no matter who you are, you're gonna have a different experience with this game, just depending on what Pokemon you get, and it's that's always exciting. I like that it's not just pick your Pokemon and that that's it. But it definitely has flaws. I think just due to the fact that it is an introductory roguelike like this. I know this genre is you know uh typically grindy like that, but it wasn't very fun because there wasn't a lot to grind towards other than just getting your level up. The items were super simplistic, they were mostly like like status-based. There was a few like a blast seed and that kind of stuff, a sleep seed, but nothing like that wild. You can't evolve your Pokemon until you beat the game, which I think is absolutely stupid. Like I'm like, uh what you beat the game, you're done. Why would that why would that even matter at this point?
SPEAKER_04Does that have uh in-game content?
SPEAKER_02I don't remember. Um I mean, not really. I think you're pretty much just building your team up even more and like that kind of stuff. It's a little bit of post-game content, but nothing that great. The story is really cool. Uh the the more you get into it, for those of you who have played this, you'll know that like it's very interesting, like the premise of like this human turn into a Pokemon, and like it's conflicted if he wants to go back or not. And it I don't know, it's it's a really, really cool plot, but it's not a perfect game. I'll give it a uh I'll give it a seven. I think it's a solid seven. It's a it's a quality game, but it's like there's definitely better in this genre for sure.
SPEAKER_04Okay. I'll go ahead and go. Um so for me, this game, like you said, I've played a lot of games like this, and this is definitely one of those games that uh you can tell is older, which is fine. But the game, but the fact that it's older, this game could really use a facelift. I know you said they remade it. Um did they remake it and like fix a lot of the stuff like it's a modern game, or do they just kind of port it to the modern stuff?
SPEAKER_02No, no, no. It's like a full like if you're talking like visually and like all that, it it is a full remake, and like the map issues fixed, all that stuff is is uh fixed for the most part. I don't know if they fix like more of the intricate things, like the uh other partners being like useless. Yeah, yeah, they they did remake it and it's I would say it's definitely a better experience than the GBA version.
SPEAKER_04Okay, I was gonna say, because I could see this genre like a mystery, like a Pokemon mystery dungeon game. If they would do it to where you could, you know, level up, you could evolve if you want to, um, and they give you that option at least. Uh the Pokemon, you could play with the Pokemon you want, and they not be useless. But there's a lot, because I thought Magnemite was really good because he would gain, like I said, when he leveled up, he would get like five hit points every level and a lot more stats. It was just the fact that the others, like Weedle and Ratata, were getting like one hit point, maybe. Or just sometimes it's like you get one special defense up, no moves or nothing, you just gained one special defense. I'm like, that's not even a level, man. Like, what the hell? Um I think that's a big problem, but again, I could see this genre being really good with Pokemon in it, and I didn't expect it, and I was happy I played it. And I was really I am interested to see where the story was gonna go. Just because you kept saying was that a Minerva you were seeing in your sleep? Is that what that was?
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's uh no, that's a Guardabar.
SPEAKER_04Guardabar. Okay. But yeah, I like I said, I don't want to knock it too hard because I didn't I don't know if I gave it enough time to really see most of it. Like you said, I've probably seen 90% of it just in the first little bit doing the grind and everything, because that's what it is.
SPEAKER_02Other than the story, I would say that's accurate.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So for me, how does the story go? I don't care if you spoil it or not, or do you not want to spoil it for people who hasn't played it? I don't want to spoil it. I mean, it doesn't for a lot of people.
SPEAKER_02There's one thing that happens, I don't uh necessarily remember remember the plot twist because I haven't beat this game in probably 20 years. But uh there was one uh part where you and your partner basically are outcasts and you have to leave the town. Like everyone turns on you and they're out to come and kill you. Like they're they're chasing you down. Alakazam, like all of them are like hunting you down and you have to like escape that little town. Yeah, it's it's I'm telling you, it's like a really cool little uh Pokemon story.
SPEAKER_04Well, I'll do the then I'll make it uh because I had a six, but if I mean if that's part of the story and the story gets really good, then I give it a six point five. Because uh I want to try to be fair, but that seems fair.
SPEAKER_03Six point five is what I had down too. And I I feel like I gave this you all know me. I'm not like like it's hard for me to find time to play these, but and this is something I didn't grow up with. The difference between a six point five and a seven point five is I did I I was never able to get Growlithe on my team, which I think he is an obtainable character. He is am I right? Yes. So so that knocks it down a point.
SPEAKER_04I wasn't able to get if they had a personality would have lined up, man. They fucked up the personality.
SPEAKER_03You know, like the the whole game style, like living in this town, checking your mailbox, going into town, having certain people. Damn, if this did not feel like some early Harvest Moon Game Boy bullshit to me. Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01Damn it, that's ooh, that's the only reference of the episode.
SPEAKER_03I mean Tommy Tellerico. I'm telling, like, when I first started firing this shit up, and I'm going through the town, and they're like, let's introduce you to fucking Kangascon that's gonna do this, and uh the fucking mailman. What's the Pelipper? Or is that a Peloponnier? Damn.
SPEAKER_02I think it's Pocopeia or whatever the hell that new game is. It's pretty much yeah, it's like or yeah, Pocopia. It's like that, pretty much. Like the layout and the look, it's kind of like an early version of that.
SPEAKER_03I like that, man. Like, you know, that's right up my alley. Some Animal Crossing Harvest Moon bullshit with some Pokemon. Like, I I enjoyed, like, it was a good time for me. I think you're right. Like, it got very repetitive. Like, it's like you're doing the same bullshit. I check my mailbox, and I've got two jobs to go to this area, two jobs at this one, three jobs at this map, and I just choose one and me and Mudkip go through and do our fucking best and then rinse and repeat. But yeah, I give it a 6.5. I mean, it's not a bad game. It's a good game. It's a good game. Like for the time, if I was a Game Boy kid and I'm a little bit younger than probably what I was with when this came out, I could see myself fully immersed in the story, gameplay, all that bullshit. Like it kind of feeds to cook.
SPEAKER_02It's just it didn't hit you at the right time in life. I feel like this game is a little yeah, like it. Well, you gotta think for me, like my parents were divorced. Every other weekend I'd have to go on this five-hour drive to and from. I had my Game Boy Advance and I had this. And this was like I was playing this for five hours. And and so it seemed like that story to me like progressed and f and flew by and shit. Like you had no phones, no nothing. This was all I had for entertainment.
SPEAKER_03It's solid. Would you consider this a this isn't quite a tactile game? Uh it is. It is and isn't like when you explore the dungeons and you choose, it's not like you're like only able to move four moves and like it's kind of more active, but it it kind of is that, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, especially with the boss fights. I felt like that was more of like when you have three, um, and you gotta like, it's kind of like chess in a way. It's like, okay, once I make this move, they're gonna come and hit me or use like a certain like you had to think about one or two moves ahead before you made any decision. So yeah, it is like that, I think.
SPEAKER_04A little bit, yeah. A little bit. A little bit, yeah. I mean, it does have some strategy to it. Like you said, there's there were times when I would sit there before I moved, because if they do their moves and everything and you don't do anything, you've got time to sit there and think. The second you move, everything's happening. There's multiple moves about to happen. So yeah, it is like that a little bit.
SPEAKER_02Alright, boys, so 6.5. That's a fair score. Uh, I definitely recommend it, especially the remake for those of you who are into Pokemon and into that style of game, definitely check it out. It's a unique little game, and uh, I don't think you'll you'll regret it.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna ask you, Tanner. I know you mentioned they remade this pretty much fully on the Switch. Did this ever have at some point between Game Boy Advance and DS, like, did it have like a second install of like a totally new but basically the same mechanics?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. They had uh, I think two other versions of this of Mystery Dungeons on the DS. Yeah. I never played them. There was one of them on the 3DS too. I think it was called Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon on the uh on the uh 3DS.
SPEAKER_03Then there was one of the things we're not just redoing this one, like it's a totally new game, but like the on the Switch?
SPEAKER_02Is that what you're talking about? No, I'm just saying like in series. Yeah, yeah. This is a series. Yeah. There was one uh called Gates to Infinity um on the 3DS. Yeah, yeah. This is a there's probably four or five games in this series. Damn, developed.
SPEAKER_04That's what I was wanting to know. Developed by Spikes Chunsoft, which is pretty cool, by the way. I played some of their games.
SPEAKER_02What are they made?
SPEAKER_04With popular entries including Rescue Team, Explorers of Sky, and Super Mystery Dungeon.
SPEAKER_02Okay. And it looks like they made the early uh Dragon Quest games. They developed them.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, Spike Chunsoft, that's what I'm saying. I've seen their name quite a bit on some of the games I play.
SPEAKER_02Cool, cool, cool.
SPEAKER_04I played the Dangan Rampa series, which I've played. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was a fun little two weeks, and now we're down to the final two games.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Get your app out, see what we're playing.
SPEAKER_04Whip this app out.
SPEAKER_02Yep. We got Star Fox 64 on the N64, and we also got God of War on the PS2, the original.
SPEAKER_04So I've got the race.
SPEAKER_02If we get Star Fox, we can beat that game in about 30 minutes.
SPEAKER_04Yep. Well, we're not getting Star Fox. We're getting it.
SPEAKER_02That's gonna be the finale game. Okay. So God of War on the PS2. How are you boys playing? I guess I'm gonna have to emulate this. This was the one game I'm like, yeah, I have to emulate it. I don't think Sony's ever ported it over to PS5. There's no way to play it on it. Um that's weird.
SPEAKER_04Is there no way to play it?
SPEAKER_02No, there it's not on the PS5 at all.
SPEAKER_04That's weird because they made that game on the PS3. They ported them all because they have like a song.
SPEAKER_02This game is pricey on the PS2. I just looked it up, it's like 80 bucks. That game used to be seven bucks, like when we were collecting just a few years ago. eBay, the original, is $80. Well, no, no, that's factory sealed. Uh this one, the greatest hits is uh well no, the greatest hits is $50. So it's about a $50 game.
SPEAKER_03There's no way to put it on PS5 right now, digitally. Damn.
SPEAKER_02So we're gonna have to figure something out. I already got a PS2 emulator, so I'm good on that.
SPEAKER_04Jared's like, I can't play this game now. Yeah, God of War is playable on PS5 through a PlayStation Plus premium subscription. Oh really?
SPEAKER_02Oh well he's okay, so you gotta stream it probably, Jared. Because I know you can't download it. You're gonna have to stream it. So you're interested in the case.
SPEAKER_03What system? What system was it?
SPEAKER_02It was on a PS2 game.
SPEAKER_03It's downloadable then. The only streamable, like the forced streamed games are PS3 on the premium PS5 package.
SPEAKER_02That's what I'm saying, though. I don't think it's the PS2 version, it's the PS3 version, which has been.
SPEAKER_03That might be right. I'll stream it.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Well, I hope if your internet's good, you should have no issue. This game it takes nine hours to beat. That's not bad. It's doable.
SPEAKER_04Better than Pokemon. Yeah. It looks like it's stream only and must have the top tier subscription. So if you do, you can stream it.
SPEAKER_02Alright.
SPEAKER_04Or you can buy a PS3 or a PS2.
SPEAKER_02We're going to uh we're gonna play Kratos and kill some uh Greek gods, and we'll be back in a week. And then also don't forget, go to our Facebook group, go to our post, and tell us what games you want us to play for the next season.
SPEAKER_03How many uh fan games are you putting on the wheel?
SPEAKER_02As many as they want.
SPEAKER_04Damn. It depends how many suggestions we get. Like we get two people's suggestions, and I think it's a good one.
SPEAKER_02The more the merrier, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_04So if we get 20, then that's a long season. So maybe we maybe we okay, okay.
SPEAKER_02Well, let me let me specify that. If we get 20, I'm gonna put 20 of them on a wheel. We're gonna spin it four times. Four times, and then what whatever four get chosen, we're gonna add that to our main wheel, and then rinse and repeat as we go.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02Alrighty, boys. So uh let's do it.