Episode 07 – Star Fox 64

In this season finale, Tanner, Carter, and Jerad jump into Star Fox 64 on the Nintendo 64. They talk about what still makes the game fun today, the classic missions and boss fights, and all the memorable quotes that still live rent free in everyone’s head. The crew also looks back on the first season, talks about some favorite moments from the show, and reloads the wheel with a whole new batch of games for next season. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:07

Welcome everybody to the Retro Damage Podcast. Today we're going to be talking about the season finale game Star Fox 64 on the Nintendo 64. Well guys, we're here. We finally made it. We're at the end of season one. Reload up. Yeah, the reload up. This is a big one. At the end of the episode, we're going to be reloading uh the wheel up. I guess we'll call it. Carter has a randomizer. I'm going to call it a wheel. We haven't revealed to each other what two games we're each picking, but we do have the four community games that we'll disclose at the end of the episode. But before we get into uh our classic game talk and talking about Star Fox, let's uh let's recap the season. Let's look back for a minute. I went and done a little bit of math and I got the games that we played throughout the season from worst to best in terms of our scores. So I averaged all of our scores, and this is what we got. Are y'all ready?

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Let's hear it.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

In last place, we got Conker's Bad Fur Day with a 6.2.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

It's a little f bad on the controls, if I remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:05

Yeah, that game was uh that was my pick. So I'm I got the loser game of the season. It was funny and it was fun for about three to four hours, and then all of a sudden it just it overstays its welcome. It just gets worse and worse. The controls get worse and worse, and it just yeah, it's one of those games that I think people have rose-colored glasses with. Go back and try to beat that game, and you tell me it's a fucking ten out of ten. It's not. I'm I'm much more of a banjo guy than a conqueror guy for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

Banjo was way more polished.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Oh yeah. Start to finish, it was just a much better game. Agreed. Big time. Then in fifth, we have Carter's pick, Dino Crisis, with a 6.5.

SPEAKER_00 1:47

Is that fair, Carter? Yeah, that's fair. That game needs a definitely a quality of life remake, big time. So I mean, you ask people like, hey, what kind of car what kind of game does Carter want remade? Well, I already added it. Dino Crisis.

unknown 2:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Yeah, yeah. This game for certain, like for survival horror fans like me and Carter, but I would love it if this game got remade. Capcom has been remaking a lot of their horror games recently. Um, all the Resident Evil games, all that shit. Silent Hill, a lot of them have been getting remade. I could see it. I could see this being one of them that comes out soon. I would be all over it. I enjoyed it, but it definitely was dated and it could use like a facelift for sure. Fourth, we have Pokemon Mystery Dungeon with a 6.7, slightly better than Dino Crisis. I think this game was just more or less kind of a little safe for that genre, a little basic, but it wasn't a bad game. It was, you know, it was a solid little introductory, kitty, roguelike style game, and it I enjoyed it for what it was worth.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Yeah, I enjoyed it too. That was the first time I'd ever played it, and that wasn't a bad time.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

And then in third, we get a big jump here. We're going from the sixes to the eights. Third, we got God of War with an 8.2. That's the game we just came off of, if y'all have heard the most recent episode. Uh me and Carter beat it, and we I loved it, Carter. That was my first time ever playing that game, and I loved it. It was excellent.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

It's definitely worth the trip, especially where they got the new God of War. Um if you've never uh played the original, I think it's definitely worth checking out. Didn't you say that they're getting remade too? Yeah, they're getting like not like kind of like the Final Fantasy VII remake, like not an HD remaster, it's a remake. They're supposed to be completely redoing it from the ground up.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Okay, cool. And that's something we're gonna have to talk about after we're done with this. It's a fucking remake, classic pod shit. In second, we got Metal Gear Solid 2, Sons of Liberty with an 8.5. This is the game, this is the Jared Cook game of the season. Even though you picked it, didn't you, Jared? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Once again, this was my first time playing this. I mean, it's classic Metal Gear. It was great, but you two guys were the are the true Metal Gear fans, and I think you all bumped it up because I think I gave this game a 7.5 and you both gave it nines.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Dang game.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

I liked it better than uh Metal Gear 1, for sure. And then in first place, our first episode is Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island with an 8.8. Just what can you say, really? I think that's just one of them like perfect little platformers from that era. It's just, you know, can you all say anything bad about Yoshi's Island?

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Not a thing. Great game.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

I guess we're gonna find out at the end of this where Star Fox 64 falls in our rankings.

SPEAKER_01 4:25

Look out Yoshi's Island. I'm gonna guess Carter didn't enjoy it.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

We'll we'll get there. We'll get there. We'll see. We have too we haven't really disclosed our opinion on it that much, so I'm kind of looking forward to that a little bit. But uh, okay, so moving on from that, we got a little bit of news here I was wanting to talk about for a second. Did you all see, or Carter and Jared, did you all see where the Switch 2 is getting a $50 price increase? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

Yeah, I've seen that they were having to they were like selling at a loss right now or something. I wonder why maybe the shitty games they've been releasing, maybe. Oh no, I think the hardware it's uh the hardware itself is not doing good with that whole tariff or not tariffs, teras really don't have nothing to do with it. It's the uh AI stuff that's going on.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

So you're talking about like the RAM and stuff?

SPEAKER_00 5:12

Oh yeah, yeah. That's uh everything's so expensive right now. The Sony already is delaying the PlayStation 6. Like that's probably gonna be 2029 before you see that.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

But usually don't consoles like they sell at a loss occasionally in like their first time.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Software makes up for it. Yeah. Usually they'll do that from time to time, but uh they've not released anything. Well, I mean, Mario Kart's gonna sell.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

What is Nintendo doing, Tanner?

SPEAKER_02 5:38

You tell me, brother. Honestly, like I honest I'm being serious. I used to be the fucking Nintendo fanboy of the group. I don't like them in it. I hate I hate Nintendo. Like I legit do. Like I their games have zero interest to me. The Switch 2 is more or less the same as the Switch 1, except, you know, slightly more powerful, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's just that them as a company to me is just like completely fell off hard. Like they're just so greedy, so anti-consumer. Like, for instance, when the Nintendo 3DS dropped in 2011, do y'all like know the old guys who used to run it like Reggie Fe Feasime and Satori Wada and those like big Nintendo guys like who were uh the head of the company at the time? Well, whenever the 3DS launched, it launched for I think $250, like whenever it first came out. It did terribly. No one was buying it. So I remember I think five months after that system dropped, it cut from 250 to 170. And the fucking president of the company like took like a 70% like price cut off of his salary. Like he was just like, okay, I'm gonna save the company. Because Nintendo was doing horrible at that time. Like fucking terrible. That was in the Wii U days. The 3DS was doing shit.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

Like PlayStation and Xbox were battling it out.

SPEAKER_02 6:48

Mm-hmm. I I remember back then as a Nintendo fan being like, oh my god, this company may not even fucking make it. Like they're doing so bad. Like, I think one of the things that saved them was whenever they started to come out with those amiibos for a little bit. Like those were a fucking hit.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

I'm serious.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

I was like, that was I think I was like a freshman in high school whenever those came out. I have no idea why the fuck I was so obsessed with the fucking amiibos, like, but I was obsessed with them. I think it was just due to their rarity because of how popular they were.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

You would drive like an hour away to like get a specific one that had just dropped.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

100%. Like I remember they launched whenever the Smash Brothers for the Wii U came out, and there were 12 initial amiibos that came out at that time. There was what they called the Holy Trinity, like the the three ones that you could not find anywhere. Like you could find the other ones, but these are the three that they didn't print a lot of that people were dying to find. One of them was the uh villager from Animal Crossing, one of them was the Wii Fit Trainer, and one of them was Marth from Fire Emblem. If you found one of those three in a store, they were probably like $150 online, and they were like little $13 figures.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Really?

SPEAKER_02 7:56

And I remember finding the fucking Gold Mario Amiibo, and it was a Walmart exclusive. That was the only place you could find it, and I was like fucking pumped. Like I was like, oh my god. I opened all mine, but I never opened that one. That was like my little like holy grail. But that is awesome, man.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

I love like that. That's some of the stories I like about this podcast, by the way. Just finding shit like that that you would never like most people like listening to this is probably like, why does Tanner care so much? But like I know what you're talking about. That feeling is awesome.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

Yeah, as a little like I swear to God, I liter I stole my mom's car like at mid-this was back whenever Walmart was 24-7 back in the day. I know some people don't even know that was a thing, but Walmart used to be you could go in at any time of the day. I was 15 years old, I only had a learner's permit, and I heard that that fucking villager amiiba was in a Walmart an hour away from me. I stole her keys as a 15-year-old and drove an hour to go to Walmart at 2 in the morning, and I bought that fucking villager amiibo.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Grand Theft Auto. Why did you steal the car, son? Why'd you do it? Well, there was a villager amoeba over at Walmart, and I really wanted to get it.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Tanner was a huge villager fan. That was his own.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

He still to this day is if I play Smash Brothers, he's my go-to. I'd like to do that to be a movie where the cops are just like, Dispatch, we have a uh villager amiibo at the Walmart. Please send someone to pick that up for me. Um this kid, I'm taking him in.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

It sounds like a super bad sequel or something. Like I would be like one of the nerdy kids, like, jingle on the lady. But yeah, that anyway, I digress. That was that was during a time when Nintendo was just like I I feel like they were more consumer friendly back then. Like they but they had to. Their back was to the wall. Like, I mean, I I remember even back in the Wii days, like Wii games were a lot cheaper than like 360 and PS3 games. I think Wii games were like 50 bucks or something at launch, like whenever they came out, and then the 360 and the PS3 games were like 60. Am I wrong about that?

SPEAKER_00 9:47

I can't remember. I feel like they did use to sell stuff cheaper, but I'm not sure if it is anymore.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

I don't know. And then they did that like Nintendo Selects thing where there were a bunch of like Wii games that they would like they were like the heavy hitters at the time, but they were like be like $20. But I guess that's like what the Xbox did for like the greatest hits and all that shit. Like I think Sony did it too.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

Yeah. I remember ordering a copy of City Folk, Animal Crossing City Folk or Folk Folk uh for our college house. Like I ordered one and it was one of those greatest hits at the time. So like we got it for 20 bucks on Amazon, but the post office lost it, so I just went ahead and bought it at Walmart.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

So yeah, that was the way to go. I know that some people like despise those because they kind of like ruined the case. I think the PS3 was the most obvious because the case was red. It's like the entire fucking case was completely uh red from what I remember.

SPEAKER_03 10:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

But yeah, I don't know. Nintendo is definitely they've they've kind of lost me as a fan. I don't have a Switch 2 and it's nearly a year out for since it's release, and I don't have any plans on getting it in the anytime soon. Because all I keep hearing is just negative shit. It's about, oh, you don't truly own the games. Oh, we're gonna raise the price. Oh, we're not gonna release anything that's worth a damn. And there's still nothing coming out on the horizon. That is proof and rumors.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

Yeah. Is it confirmed that like they're remaking Ocarina of Time, or is that a rumor?

SPEAKER_02 11:13

That was a rumor, but I think what let's go ahead and say segue into what I was wanting to say. The fucking power of the pod, people. We got another power of the pod. And Jared, I don't know, man. I think you have the the magic, the mojo, or whatever the fuck it takes to get remakes made, because it's every single fucking time it's one of your games. Like, lo and behold, the week we land on Star Fox 64 and we're playing it, they're coming out with a fucking Star Fox 64 remake.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

That was pretty coincidental, man. That one I tried to Google it after because I thought maybe subconsciously I chose that had they announced it were hinted towards this remake of Star Fox.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

Well, that was what I was gonna say about when you was asking about Ocarina Time. It leaked that there was gonna be a new Star Fox and then there was gonna be an Ocarina Time remake. So that tells me that the Ocarina Time remake is coming still. But people at the time thought it was just gonna be a brand new Star Fox game.

SPEAKER_00 12:08

They didn't know it was gonna be a 64 remake. Yeah, I had no idea about the 64 remake. I knew I think they knew there was a Star Fox game coming for a while. Uh well, a rumor that came out, but definitely not a 64 remake. That's uh that news is brand new.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

But it's bullshit because this game has been remade twice already.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

I saw a lot of people mad, including uh 1980s gamer.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Oh god. My favorite. I don't want to talk shit about it. I have uh I have some I have some thoughts on 1980s gamer from anyone out there who knows what the fuck we're talking about, this guy on Facebook. Uh he's an interesting character, besides Elie.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

And he's our next guest.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

I hope so. I would love to have him on the pod. Regardless of what my thoughts on him are.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

The dude's out there, he he's grinding, he's doing his thing. I'd love to have him on there now. So uh hey, buddy. So if you listen to our last podcast, Tanner wants you on here, no matter what he thinks about you. I didn't say nothing negative, I just said he's interesting. He's an interesting guy. Tanner's like, hey, I do the edits, I'll cut that shit right out of this podcast.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Shit, I would have Tommy Telarico on this podcast in a fucking heartbeat.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

I know he's like the Satan of the retro video game community. For like one group of people. Two specifically. I don't think anybody else even knows who the hell he is.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

He actually I uh I'm gonna look this up live, but I think he has a like a kind of a history in the game community, other than the fucking Intellivision bullshit that people don't give a shit about. Uh like he was a I think back in the SNES days and the Sega Genesis days, he was a uh video game composer. And he composed a lot of music for games back then. Let's take a look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh Aladdin on the Super Nintendo, he did the music. Earthworm Jim, he did the music. Nice. Madden NFL 96, he did the music.

SPEAKER_03 13:59

Dang.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

Yeah, a bunch of games. Like a shit ton I'm looking at here. So I guess he he has a history and a past with video games. I just wonder why he like wanted to make an Intellivision fucking plug and play system. I don't think anybody knows why.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

I think that's kind of a slight to him, like calling it plug and play Tanner. I think this thing was supposed to be really cool.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

Oh my god, who gives a fuck? Does has anyone ever seen an Intellivision, like what they look like?

SPEAKER_00 14:26

Well, I think it goes back to one of those things that didn't really sell well. I don't recall anybody ever having one, but that doesn't mean like there's not a group of people out there who's like, dude, Intellivision rocks.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

The controllers literally it looked like a fucking phone. It had like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Like it looked like pure dog shit. Like, I just don't get the obsession. I think Atari's dog shit. But I I respect it though, because it, you know, it's a piece of video game history and stuff, and I get it. Like it uh games had to start somewhere. But it's like I don't know. It's like a ripoff of a of a system that wasn't even good to begin with. You know what I'm saying? I just don't get the obsession.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

I don't say like the Intellivision, like it's like he's like, hey, we're remaking the Wii U. Who gives a shit?

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Yeah, it's kind of like that a little bit, like a little Wii U Vita system or better, yeah, it'd be like a Virtual Boy, which I'm pretty sure didn't Jar Jared didn't they like release the Virtual Boy games on the Switch too now? Like you can play them.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

I think so. And you can buy like the thing that your Switch can sit inside to like play it, like VR. Like remember when Nintendo did all that bullshit with the like cardboard shit, like build your own this, build your own that yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

I remember Nintendo Labo.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Am I imagining they have a Labo for the Virtual Boy?

SPEAKER_02 15:44

No, no, no. They made a um like a cardboard VR headset that you put over your eyes. And they only made little tiny modes for like a few games. I think one of them was like Mario Odyssey, one of them was Breath of the Wild, you could play in VR. But the thing is, it's so stupid. It's not like you're through the eyes of Link. It's just you're just looking at the game like with this cardboard thing on your face.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Yeah, because they actually made like a real Virtual Boy headset thing for the Virtual Boy, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:13

Yeah, like you put your Switch 2 inside of this plastic shell and then you stick it to your face. And then apparently it's supposed to like replicate the 3D effects of the Virtual Boy or whatever. I've never played a Virtual Boy, I've seen a few of them in person, but I've always wanted to try it.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Yeah, I just stuck the switch to my face one day and like click the games, and it was not good.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

Not to mention they're all like solid red, like you can't see shit.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

Like I said, I just fooled around with it for like five minutes. But yeah, I guess I completely imagine the Nintendo Labo virtual voice system. That's a Nintendo thing, though.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

A hundred percent. Like that is classic Nintendo. Did you ever buy the uh Ring Fit Adventures? It was like their attempt at We Fit for the Switch. You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Oh yeah. I'm looking at I've got it complete in box, maybe never opened up here that I got secondhand at like a goodwill or consignment store, but I've never opened it or played it.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

That's crazy. I for whatever reason I bought it and I used it for like a week. It was pretty like it's more of just like a cardio thing. It's like you hold this little like circle band in front of your face, and like um I think the Nintendo Switch Joy-Con has an IR sensor on it and it can t test your blood not blood pressure. What is it? It's like your heart rate or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Yeah, yeah, heart rate.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

And then that was one thing that like after you're done with your workout, it'd be like, place your thumb on the IR and it'll test your heart rate to see like how you're doing or if you're working out good enough.

SPEAKER_01 17:43

Yeah, I can tell you.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

Did you ever play the uh the uh the Wii Fit whenever it came out?

SPEAKER_01 17:47

That was fun. That wasn't just like there were modes on there that were just for workout type stuff, like plank on this son of a bitch for an hour. But uh the actual like if you got the Wii Fit Plus, We Fit, We Fit board Plus, whatever it was, there were fun ass games on there, like where you would have to like run, run, run, run, run, squat to jump. It was almost like you were in a platformer. I had a blast with that.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

You have a history of like working out and you know the ins and outs scientifically of like what it takes to like get in the shape and stuff. I know you do. Be honest, is can you get fit on the we fit?

SPEAKER_01 18:26

I think somebody could really take advantage of that, like a social media person, like influencer. You could it being fit and rip is like 80% diet anyway. Yeah, and if if that was your main activity, upper body strength and like fitness-wise, you might suffer a little bit, but I think you could get into decent cardio streaming.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

I was someone who sits at a desk all day, and there's a ton of people that will do that for a living. Um, having one of those would be pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 18:58

It's like it's mostly cardio anyway, and there's no weights, nothing like that.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

I think it's meant for people who are kind of like just fat. You know, like if it's for someone trying to build muscle, you're not gonna get nothing out of it.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

But that's that's what I'm talking about. There's a lot of people who are severely out of shape that uh that can really use that to kind of get get healthier than they are anyway.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

Yeah. Let me kind of pivot off of that. Goodwill is super shitty nowadays. If you know I don't know, most people probably know that. Like they've got an online, like anything that comes in that is given to them for free, they if it's video game related, they send that shit off to be auctioned online now. It is very rare if you are listening and you've actually found something video game wise in a goodwill, it's because they've like it's slipped through the cracks. But one thing that will not slip through the cracks, which I assume is because they don't want to pay the price for shipping because of the weight, is a Wii fit board. I've seen like four to five Wii fit boards stacked up at like a Goodwill with nothing else Wii related because all the other shit, the Wii console, the games, gets shipped off to their main thing where they price gouge retro game collectors, which is kind of bullshit. That shit's given to you. Stop trying to fucking take advantage of people.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

I agree. Because it's gonna sell anyway. It's it this is high demand items. Like it should just be locally tailored to like people first come, first serve. You come into the store, you get it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 20:32

It's like I think so too, but like you have to really hunt, and you like I feel like the employees there have had to have m like made a mistake for you to find something decent on the shelves.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Now, have you ever found anything decent at a goodwill? Because I that's the one place I overlook, especially back in the day when I actually collected video games and stuff. I never even thought to go into a goodwill.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

I have, I think I found a random PS3 controller, which like I said, I think a lot of times if you do find that shit, it's because it was overlooked. I do know they they don't ship PC stuff, so I found some cool like old PC games. I found the original flight simulator complete inbox with like very good condition for PC. I found Final Fantasy VIII, like complete inbox and some like trifold thing on PC at a goodwill. That's awesome. The biggest slip-up I feel like I've ever found by Goodwill is I found a brand new Wii moat, like in the box, never been opened, and I feel like they just messed up. Like that should have shipped off to go get for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

I feel like you found one of them uh Nintendo themed Wii remotes at a Goodwill, didn't you? Was it a Peach one or a Yoshi one or a toe? You know what I'm talking about? Because I think you have one of them.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

I think I found a Yoshi one or a uh Luigi one. It's a green one.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

I'm I'm gonna look it up right now how much those uh Wii remotes are 'cause I'm very I'm kind of curious. But like I I remember seeing that I'm like that's a good score because there's a lot of people out there who actually want them. Yeah. Uh let's see. Oh my god. Yeah, it's it's like a fuck if it's complete in box, it's $120.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

I don't think it I think it was like just by itself. But imagine the amount of Wii stuff that comes into those places that they just take advantage of and it goes to the online auction and then people end up paying two or three times as much as what or more than what they would have paid. I'm thankful we've got one little tiny not goodwill, like a consignment shop in Oceana. Brooke likes to go a lot, and every now and then they'll have like a couple hauls on some games that like I'll buy which are a dollar apiece. I shouldn't be saying this on the pod. Maybe we got local listeners that are gonna start sniping me. But I've I've got some good scores before. A couple weeks ago, I think she got like seven Wii games. In the early days, I would get like 20 PS1 games, and there's been some gems in there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

Which I mean, it's it's no secret that nowadays, like if you're looking to get into retro game collecting, that fucking chip has selled if you're wanting to get good deals. But if I mean if you live in a place like we do, West or you know, or you two do, West Virginia, that I feel like that's one of the last remaining states to where you can get away with it. You can find something, because there's still not a lot of people who are like caught up, like maybe in terms of the information of it all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

A lot of older people, you know, who have like which with your job, you're a physical therapist and you could you go like two old people's homes, right? Like you to help them out.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

Yeah, I used to try like I used to try to not like hint around that I was interested in stuff, and then like it started being offering. Like, I've seen several nice retro collections, and like I don't I don't know where the like integrity comes of me buying it off these people. But I had one time I had a guy, like uh a patient, uh an older lady he was living with, or she was living with her son and daughter, and they offered me like I got probably 15 SNES games for about like they're like I whatever you want. I was like, I'll give you 50 bucks for. Oh yeah, I sold. Which they were they were in rough shape, like they need cleaned bad. Yeah, they're tied up in this attic somewhere in a bag that I haven't even taken the time to clean them. But yeah, you find stuff like that all the time.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

If I was in your shoes, I'd be doing the same thing. It but it reminds me of my old stepdad. It's a very similar thing back in the early 2010s. He had a uh a heating and air business, so he had to do the same thing where he would go to people's homes and have to work on their you know air conditioning and stuff. But he knew that I had that as a hobby. So every single time he would go to these people's houses, if he's seen any hint, or I remember he told me once, he's like, Tanner, like I kind of have like this radar. If I see a guy who's like in his late teens or whatever, I I I got I'm on the scent because like there's probably some sort of video game shit in here somewhere. He would bring it up in the conversation and he would like ask about it, and usually I'm not even joking, dude. Like he would come home sometimes with like a Santa sack full of shit of just stuff he bought for me, and he collected it too. Like he was into it too, and he wanted to see what he could get. But I was like, it was just I took that shit for granted looking back because I look back and I'm like, this man was getting insane shit for like nothing back in the day. Like it was just incredible. Yeah, I don't know. That's just one of them things. Like, there's it, there's gold out there, it's just it's a matter of like you have to look, you know.

SPEAKER_01 25:48

You definitely were early to the party, Tanner. Like you were trying to find retro scores in like 2010-ish? Around that era, and like that stuff was still cheap then. Like you were into that, even though you weren't your typical 20 to 30 year old that had played the what made you want to do that?

SPEAKER_02 26:12

I was a 12-year-old.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

What made you want to do that? Just was it your stepdad?

SPEAKER_02 26:17

Well, I was into games, obviously. Like I grew up uh as in the games as a kid, and I remember seeing a video of this guy named Angry Video Game Nerd on some sort of website. I thought it was the funniest shit I ever seen. I did like a deep dive on his YouTube channel, and I like was mind-blown how deep video games went, and I'm like, oh my god, this shit's crazy. Because like when you're a kid, you think whatever you have is the origins of video games. So I was like, oh, so game the GameCube is the origin of video games. Like that's just not the that's not the case. So once I found out about Sega and Atari and all the old Nintendo stuff, I'm like, this shit goes back so far, and I was just so interested in it. So I remember like bringing it up to him, and he was probably in his late 30s, early 40s, and he's like, Oh, yeah, I played that shit. Even my my real dad, he had that shit growing up, and I told him about it. He's like, I think I got some in the attic, Bob. I go up there and look, and I see his little NES collection, which cracks me up now. He had three fucking games for the NES. He had uh Mario and Duck Hunt, the combination. He had Techmo Bowl, which there's literally it used to be my Facebook cover picture for about a week of him whenever he got his Tecmo Bowl for Christmas. It's the one of the funniest pictures ever. And he also had a game called uh Renegade. I have no idea what the fuck it is. It looks like a little like um like a beat-em-up style game. I don't know why he'd even have that. But uh yeah, I don't know. Just from that point on, I was just like, man, I'm I'm gonna try to get into this shit. Like I remember going to a like a flea market with him, my stepdad at the time, and we found a dreamcast in like 30 games for $30. I'll never forget that. A dreamcast, 30 games, $30.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, you were into this stuff, like if if you would have just been hot and heavy on it and kept all your shit, it would be so profitable today.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

I sold all my old retro stuff for the most part, but there's some things that have fallen through the cracks, and I found some NES games that I had from back then. I don't even know why I even have them.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

But that was the ton of stuff, man. You had a ton of stuff. Yeah. I don't know if you remember the little story. Our grandma, which is mine and Tanner's both grandma's how we're related, went to some yard sale one time and was asking about Harvest Moon, a Natsumi game, of course. And uh the person offers her, oh, we got that on Super Nintendo, like we'll sell it to you. Oh she's like, no, no, he plays GameCube. I'm looking for the Cube games. And I like thinking back to that, that game probably goes for $300 plus nowadays. 100%. But she was gonna buy like, ah no, he got a cube game, not a Super Nintendo. She had the opportunity to get like the holy grail of Super Nintendo or Harvest Moon.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

D well, Dee Dee was a huge reason for my success too, because she had a guy that she used to, I don't know if they were dating at one point in time or whatever the hell, but or maybe they were just friends, but he was a a peddler, as one of your friends called him. I'm pretty sure he had an old store of you know, of old shit or whatever. Or maybe he like went around and like you know, bought stuff or whatever. But I remember one day she asked him, like, hey, do you have any old video game stuff? And he's like, Oh yeah, I got a ton of that stuff. And I think he was like trying to impress her, like trying to like hook the grandson up with shit just to impress D D. So I remember uh Didi had to go to Beckley to go to this doctor, and he was gonna meet us there to give me the shit. So I'm sitting there in the doctor's office with her, and he pulls up, and it's this humongous fucking tote of like anything you can imagine video game related, like Sega shit, uh Nintendo 64 shit. I'm like, God, how the hell? Like back then it was just all about who you know, really.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

I think you're getting two of Didi's boyfriends mixed up. The one you're talking about used to own a game rental place. That's how he had all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

Oh, yeah, Rogers, uh little shop or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Yeah, he owned a video game rental store in the 90s. That's how he had all those Sega Genesis complete inbox, all the games. Carter, didn't you say you rented shit from his store back in the day in Lincoln? Everybody did.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure, like, I think everybody did.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

He just had you know, I saw a story like a few years back where a video game rental place had or may have been a a store, but anyway, they had gone out of business and put all their shit in a storage unit and had forgot about it. Like a family member finally got to it, which was just a year or two ago. The shit they had in there was worth millions. There was tons of non-open like unopened video games. God, that'd be the dream.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

Like, oh man, my my business went under, and then if you just don't touch it for 20, 30 years, you're gonna be you're good.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

And that's the thing that's changed. I know we're we're about to get into Star Fox, I know that, but that's the thing that's changed in in most recent memory is like uh like sealed games, for instance. Like back in the day, I mean, yeah, that that was like a an indication that this is like of quality and it's new and pristine, but nowadays it's just like there's so much obsession and emphasis on getting games graded and like that, like plastic. Like that plastic alone will add thousands of dollars to the value, you know. If it just the simple fact that it's sealed versus, you know, it could still be a pristine copy, but just without that plastic. It's so weird to me, that whole market. I I just don't fully understand it. Like I think a sealed Mario 64 that was graded like as good as a game can get graded in terms of the quality and like the how pristine it was, sold for a million dollars. But you gotta think mar a game like Mario 64, there's gotta be more out there. You know what I'm saying? Like there's gotta be more of that somewhere in a warehouse or or something, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

It's just a very odd thing to be worth too much. It's not a one million dollar piece of thing. However, the price of that kind of stuff, it it's only worth what someone's willing to pay for it. So I mean, if someone's willing to pay a million dollars, then hey, it's worth a million dollars now. He might be the only one that's willing to pay that million dollars, though.

unknown 32:37

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Alrighty, boys. Well, yeah, this was fun. A little chat. I didn't even think we'd go down this rabbit hole, but it was fun. I like talking about this stuff. Anyway, uh, let's talk about the game here before we get to reloading the wheel in the new season, Star Fox 64. Jared, you picked this. No, you said that you never played this growing up, but you watched another friend play it. Uh, who who was it? Like, where did you see any of this?

SPEAKER_01 33:00

Our pod buddy Austin, I think he suggested RuneScape in our past that hit the wheel. Like, I may have played it once or twice, like just playing around at his house, but for the most part, I would watch him play it. Back then, like the fact it was like voice acted and the graphics were really, really good at the time. Like, I was really drawn into this game, I just never got it.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

Mm-hmm. This was the game that also came with the Rumble Pack. Do you have any recollection of that at all? Did it blow your mind? Like the controller vibrated. So this game came with the Rumble pack? Yeah, it was bundled with it. I don't know. There may be certain copies that didn't have it included, but I know for sure this was the first game on the N64 to have that functionality.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

I didn't know that. I did have a rumble pack, which I obviously didn't get from this game because I didn't have the game, but um The Rumble pack was the Rumble pack. Like it didn't make a big difference to me. I would put it in occasionally if it didn't have to have the memory card in the same slot. I think I remember playing a bat like Bass Hunter 64, bass something 64 with it, because you could really feel the fish like bite. But I didn't use it a lot. I think you had to put triple A batteries back in the Rumble pack.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Yeah, it it's like one of them things I think gamers take for granted and stuff, like the whole rumble functionality. But back then, you know, it was new and it was like kind of a it was like a new concept, which now the PS5 and that game I was talking about that I beat in the previous episode, Astrobot, it takes full advantage of like the dual sense. That's the name of the controller. Jesus Christ, it's like the most elaborate shit ever. It's like even if you pull the triggers, it will feel like you're either pulling a gun trigger or you're you you know doing specific things that's like so hyper-detailed, it's insane. Yeah, it's just crazy how we've come like that far and like such a long way. But uh yeah, Star Fox, this is a game I'd never played growing up, but I had the 3DS remake of this, which I know I said that this game got remade three times, it it or it's about to be re-remade a third time. I had the one that was Star Fox 64 3D, and it was basically the same game, but just you know, better visuals and 3D and stuff, and I I enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun, but it was just Star Fox has never been one of them series to me that's really interesting all that much because I think it's just kind of a weird series, like it constantly gets rebooted over and over and over. It always underperforms, and I think Nintendo just doesn't really know what to do with it, so they're like, Well, let's go back to the game that did good, Star Fox 64, and let's try let's try it again.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

It is cool, like star like Fox himself is a cool main character, like and all the other animal characters around him. Like, I think they got something, they just don't know how to use it. Didn't the GameCube do something a little bit different? Wasn't it more like uh you're on foot?

SPEAKER_02 35:54

Yep, it's uh I had that game too. I'm happy you said that because I wasn't looking up. So it's called Star Fox Adventures, and it was like a Zelda game. It was like, you know, you're you're Star Fox, you're out of the R Wing, and you're kind of walking around these little towns and stuff, and it was like it was Zelda, essentially. Like you're doing these little dungeons and puzzles, and it was a good game from what I remember. I really enjoyed that game growing up, but I guess it didn't do well, or or Star Fox fans were just like, we want it back to how it was. They wanted the what would you call Star Fox, uh, on rail shooter? Rail shooter? Isn't that what that's called, that genre? Yeah, yeah, I would say so. I think it's definitely an on-rail shooter. It's basically you're in this spaceship and you're just going straight ahead. You can't really like turn anywhere in particular, you're on rails and you just shoot these enemies who come up and stuff. Well, let's say this. Did you all beat this game? You reminded me of something, Jared. I maybe I lucked up or something because I didn't know where I forgot that if you run out of lives, you have to restart from the very beginning. I didn't know that. I never ran out completely of lives. Is that how it worked?

SPEAKER_01 37:02

I'm not good at games, like I say on every podcast. Like, so I played through, I was having a good time, took the path down low in the game, and I think I did something right on one of the missions where they try to bomb your old base, and I got rid of all those guys before it the bomb went off, and then it put me on the path to the hot level, the sun level, or whatever. Yeah. And I could not beat, like, I kept getting beat by the last guy, and I ran out of life, and it's like, uh well, you're done. Put your three letters for your initials here, and uh good luck next time, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

It's very arcadey in that respect. It's like you're putting quarters in, and it's just like, well, start from the beginning and do it again. But then this game is so short, I beat it in 45 minutes. But it's meant for multiple playthroughs because there's all these different planets like scattered out and different routes you can take and different levels. So you could probably get about if you played every single level, probably four to five hours worth of content.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

The story, the same ending is the same, like that whole like the Great Fox Negan, they're like, We're gonna go or we're gonna roll out or something like that, like to the next mission. Same ending on every single one. But when you beat the boss, uh it's completely different depending on which route you take. So the story is like, did you see his dad at all in the game?

SPEAKER_02 38:19

No, I didn't see his dad once.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

Yeah. So if you beat it in the hard mode, his dad actually guides you out in the last battle. His dad shows up and goes, Follow me, Fox. And you follow him out, and that's how you kind of escape. So that's how you get the story out of this one, if you, you know, call it a story. So I thought his dad was dead.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

That's I guess the twist. If you do the hardest what Carter just told us.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

Well, I think his dad is dead, but like his spirit or whatever guides you out of the exploding monkey head thing.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

Andross.

SPEAKER_00 38:48

But yeah. Yeah, andros. But yeah, it's pretty cool. I wanted to see it because I was like, there's no way I'm beating this game, and then I was like, Tanner said he beats this in 20 minutes. I don't see it, but apparently I did not take the easy route.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

So did you all have any history with the Super Nintendo Star Fox?

SPEAKER_02 39:04

Not really. I think I I played a little bit of it and I hated it. I thought it was like shit.

SPEAKER_00 39:10

I've never I've never even touched it. Actually, very similar to this one. It's in 3D. 3D on the Super Nintendo? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was one of its big things, yeah. So that was probably like an elite.

SPEAKER_02 39:25

It was kind of like these little I don't know how you even say it, like these polygons and stuff. Like it looks kind of wireframed. Like it's not really like completely 3D, but it looks 3D.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

So this was probably like elite visuals on the Super Nintendo Star Fox.

SPEAKER_02 39:38

100%. Oh, yeah. At the time, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Dude, I gotta look it up. I need to play that. Because and then there's a Star Fox 2 that was never released, but was released on the little console thing, the mini.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

That was like the system seller of the of the SNES Mini was like, now with the unreleased Star Fox 2 game, like I think they made a complete game for the Super Nintendo, which is Star Fox 2, and just never released it for whatever reason. And that was the first time they ever put it out. But I think it's on the Switch Online service too.

SPEAKER_01 40:09

Okay. I need to go back and try that. Like, I had a good time with this Star Fox 64.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

I really enjoyed it because it it's a very basic game. It's not really anything that's gonna like blow your hair back or anything. It's you know, it's pretty pretty much the same sort of thing over and over and over. It's like you're going through these levels, these little space levels, and you have the characters talking the entire time. You gotta make sure you keep them protected and that stuff. I did like how like the character's health and stuff. Like for instance, if you lose Falco, if you lose Peppy in a mission, they're gonna be out for the next mission. And and then the mission after that, they come back once they get their ship repaired and stuff. I like that kind of stuff because you're missing out on dialogue. If if you keep them all alive, then you have like everything that you're gonna hear and like all the dialogue and stuff, but if you don't, then you're kind of losing something. So I guess that gives you a little bit more replayability to it. But there are three different vehicles in this game. I only got to to play one of the other. There was the R Wing, which is like the classic like spaceship. There's the Landmaster, which is like this tank on the ground, like you're like driving this tank, and then there's a submarine. I never played the submarine level, like I didn't never see that. I never even knew where that was. So that's like another incentive to go back and play it. It's like there's like an underwater level at some point.

SPEAKER_01 41:21

Dang, I didn't know that either.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

One of my biggest complaints though is the fucking all-range mode bullshit. I hated those. Anytime it would like open it up to where you could it was like basically like a dog fight in the sky, like you're all like flying around shooting each other. I don't know. I think this game was just designed for the N64 controller, and like that was like the way to play it because I could see how it was kind of intuitive for that. But from what I was planted on, which was like an Xbox 360 Skull Candy fucking uh controller on my laptop, the button placement was terrible on that shit. I hated any anytime it was the all-range mode where you're flying around. I hated that shit.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

Like do you turn and that sort of thing?

SPEAKER_02 41:59

Yeah, the somersault and all that stuff. I can't I could not stand it because it just controlled so bad for me.

SPEAKER_00 42:05

The controller I used was uh basically I had this big like it reminds you of like the nerf controller type of thing that my son uses for the switch because the uh Joy-Cons for the Switch are broke. Um they broke fairly quickly into my Switch's life, or actually fairly quickly after my son was born. Um those are gone, so there's that's the only controller I have. So I was trying to play it on that, so I was like, this is definitely not built for this at all. Where you gotta use the C buttons up. I'm like, this is probably built for the I need my third hand so I can play it on this Nintendo 64. Because that's that controller was designed for three hands, it wasn't designed for two.

SPEAKER_02 42:39

Well boys, let's go ahead. Let's put a score on this because I'm eager to get to uh reloading the wheel. Jared, this is your game. Put a score on it.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

I enjoyed my time with it. I would rate this a solid six. I think it's something fun to go and replay. Just for like, especially if you're a Nintendo boy like Tanner, like you need to know these first party Nintendo games and go and play this one. It's enjoyable. It's not like it's not like I dreaded going back and playing it. I could go back right now and have a good time trying to beat where I got the first time. So I'm just gonna give it a solid six and go from there.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

Well, I'm actually higher than you, Jared. I'm not I'm not that hard on it. Yeah, I I enjoyed it. I really did. I mean, it's like a very basic on-rails space shooter uh with you know a lot of memorable, iconic uh little gamer phrases like do a barrel roll and all that shit, like shit you hear all the time. Like the characters are pretty memorable, even if they're very simplistic. The alternate paths are cool, you know, uh the little like Carter said, like the little story beats that are unique to each playthrough, that's really neat. And I know even back in the day this game had a multiplayer function, which was you know classic. It's huge for the N64. And I'm sure it's where a lot of people got a lot of their playtime out of it and enjoyment. But I don't understand why this game keeps getting remade over and over and over. There's not that much. Meat on the Bone to warrant an $80 fucking Switch 2 game. It's already been remade on the 3DS. It got a like a reimagined version on the Wii U called Star Fox Zero. It wasn't a complete remake of this, but it was like pretty much by the number Star Fox 64 going through the same beats, but it has like different controls and that kind of shit. I'm gonna give it a 6.5. I'm gonna go a little bit higher than you. I know this game a lot of people love and it's a classic, but it's just like it is what it is. You know, it's not the greatest thing I've ever played, but it's it's decent.

SPEAKER_00 44:32

I truly wish I'd have been able to play this game on the Nintendo 64, because I think that controller would have made it differently. Because I honestly love these style arcadey games where you can just kind of go through and you know you're blasting stuff, you're getting through a level. For instance, there's some 2D shooters like this, like R-type and stuff that I I play all the time. Absolutely love them to death. This 3D mode though was just very difficult to get around. I mean, they're like, there's someone behind you, they're coming up on your rear, and I'm like, I I can't see that. I have no idea what you're talking about. Then I'm getting smashed by a ship, and I'm like, like, if I could have a rear view mirror or something where I could see back behind me and I could dodge it, that'd be cool. But like, just you just gotta know. I mean, that's how games were back then. You just gotta know where stuff's coming from. I was definitely messing with you guys in the chat though that we have about how terrible it was, uh, because it really wasn't not that bad. Um I had written down a six, uh, just like Jared had. So um, I'll just keep it there because it really wasn't that terrible of a game. Definitely dated, definitely don't know about a remake though, unless they completely like it does it doesn't need a remaster or like a remaster like that. It needs a complete remake overhaul like Final Fantasy VII did. It needs something like that.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Which is it looks like that's what they're doing, like even with the character models and everything, like they're completely remaking everything. And I think they showed like a Nintendo direct, like it's like a 20-minute direct of the game. And yeah, that's what it looks like. It's like they're adding new story cut scenes or adding new levels or adding new like weapons and that stuff. So yeah, they're doing a full overhaul from what it looks like.

SPEAKER_00 45:59

Okay, that's what it needs. Like, because I'm not sure if the one on 3DS was an overhaul or if they just took the.

SPEAKER_02 46:04

It was like a 3D remaster, it wasn't like a remake at all.

SPEAKER_00 46:07

Yeah, yeah. This doesn't need to be remastered, this needs remake it. So glad they're doing that. That's actually not bad. I think it's fair, you know. Uh 6.566. That's that's good with me. You should have gave it a 6-2, and we could have called this game Satan.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

Yeah, we could have. Alrighty, boys. We're here to the uh greatly anticipated section. We got a whole new season, so that means new games. Before we get into our games, let's quickly go over the four community games we got. I mentioned three of them in the previous episode, but we got a new one. First things first, we got Dave Mathis. He's suggesting Little Nemo on the NES. So we got some more NES love. We need to try to get Dave on the podcast properly this time. Like actually interview him like with a proper mic and not over a cell phone call or whatever. Let's look, let's try to get him on here. Alright, so we got Little Nemo. Then we got Metroid Fusion from Caleb Cook. It's gonna be a lot of fun. A Metroid game. I don't think Carter, have you played a Metroid?

SPEAKER_00 47:04

Oh, yeah. It's like I mentioned last time, I beat Zero Mission.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:10

I know me and Jared haven't, so I think it's gonna be. Oh no, no, I played Metroid Prime remastered. So yeah, I played the 3D ones, but I've never played the 2D ones.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

So that's gonna be a good one. Metroid game on the GameCube. I mean, not GameCube, on the uh DS when it first came out.

SPEAKER_02 47:25

Oh god, was it the fucking uh pinball? Metroid pinball? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 47:29

There's like a legit there's a legit DS game, like uh that like a demo little thing came with the DS.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

It was called uh Metroid Prime Hunters. I know what you're talking about. It was like a little demo uh cartridge. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Yeah, I played that. I think there was a multiplayer thing that was pretty fun, like if you had people with a DS around you to play it.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Okay, so Jared has to touch Metroid. I didn't know that. And then we got two games from Mitch Toggle. He suggested two games, so I'm just like, you know what? Fuck it. Let's let's add them both. One of them is Zombies Ate My Neighbors on the Super Nintendo. Looks like a lot of fun. Little co-op game. Hopefully you all can get either your boys to play, or maybe Jeff can come over or whatever and play that with you all. And another Super Nintendo game he suggested, Earthworm Gym. Never played it, but this is like one of them platforms I hear all the time from this era. I've never played it, though. Have you all played it?

SPEAKER_00 48:21

Oh yeah. Yeah, I played it a little bit for sure. Um it's on uh I think I've got it on both Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis somewhere around here.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

I don't know how you get through the 90s and not play a Earthworm Gym game.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

It reminds me of Toe Jam and Earl. Maybe it's just the name or whatever, but it's that the classic 90s like character to me.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

It was more prevalent and popular than that. There was an Earthworm Gem cartoon. I had VHS tapes, like of like it would come on TV, but I had a few episodes of Earthworm Gym on VHS that I watched. I had an action figure, where Earthworm Gym. You press something on his back or something, and the worm part would pop out of his suit.

SPEAKER_02 49:00

What the fuck? I didn't know this was that popular. It's crazy. Uh so those are the four games we got. I'm pretty sure before we even started the episode, Carter added them to the uh the wheel already, so we're good on that. Now it's time for us. Who wants to go first?

SPEAKER_00 49:15

I'll go. Um you all go and then because I've got mine added, that way I can add them as we go.

SPEAKER_01 49:21

Yeah, I'll go. Let's hear it. There's no secret. I'm gonna put two games out. They're both PS2. Let's first open it up with a little since it's coming out this November, knock on wood, cross your fingers. Let's go with uh we've never had a GTA, so let's go GTA Vice City. Vice City. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 49:41

Unlike Carter, I've I absolutely love GTA. And this is one of the ones I I've had the least amount of experience with. I've beaten San Andreas to death, I played a lot of three, I've beaten four to death, beaten five to death. I beaten Vice City once, and that was years ago, years ago, but I don't remember it that much. So I'm looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

I got a pretty good history with I remember the day I got it like it was yesterday. So I'm pumped to go back and play this. And then let's go a little Natsumi, way off, way off that very few people have probably even heard of. Let's go Metropolis Mania.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

I'm so pumped. What Jared, I'm not even joking. This is a game you have been talking about for fucking years in terms of putting it on a pod. Like even back in the old pod days, you're like Metropolis Mania? Is it time? Like this has been in the books for a long time.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

Man, it's my kind of game.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

Quirky ass Natsumi bullshit is what this is.

SPEAKER_01 50:42

It's crazy. City builder, not quite like a Tamodachi, a little bit more like almost like a Tycoon City Builder. Yeah. SimCity-ish with a lot of Natsumi.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

So let's see what that has. I played this game at your house. This is like one of them games that if someone comes over to Jared's house, he'll like sit you down and make you play it for 30 minutes. And that was absolutely me. I I played it for probably about 30 minutes one day, and I got a taste of it. But I'm I'm wanting, you know what, fucking, I'm gonna do my best to beat this shit if it even has an ending. I'm gonna do my best to beat this bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 51:20

If you beat it, I will be impressed. Like, I've made it a few levels into the game, but I've never really beat it, beat it.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

Okay, I like it. Uh, I guess I'm up next. Carter's going last. All right. Now I stated in the previous podcast that the first system I ever got was the GameCube, and on that day I got three games, and I added one of them already to the pod, and it was Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. I'm now gonna add another game that I got that day, and it's on the Switch 2. It's Luigi's Mansion. I want you all to play this. This is a relatively short game. I think it takes six hours to beat, maybe seven. Hopefully, we can get this beat, but Luigi's Mansion is a fucking amazing game. Like this is a truly unique Nintendo game. Carter will love it. He's a Luigi guy. Oh, yeah. Carter's played through it. You you've beaten Luigi's Mansion before? Uh long time ago. That almost makes me want to change my pick, but let's let's stick with it. Let's stick with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever played it, Jared? I don't think I've played the original. Did it did it release on the 3DS? That well, that was the second one. That was Luigi's Mansion 2.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

Okay. And it didn't release on the Switch. That was three.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

Yep, that was three. And it just got released. You know the GameCube thing on the Switch 2? It's on there now. I'll play that.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

I had three, and I bet I've played it less than 30 minutes, and Littlebrook borrowed it off of me, and I guess beat it and gave it back to me. I guess she gave it back.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

Well, this is an unpopular opinion, but one is my favorite by far. I think it's the best of the trilogy. I love it. It's very different. Excellent game. All right. My second game, I'm going crazy. I'm going fucking wild, and Carter's gonna hate my fucking guts for this. But there's a stipulation, and I want you all to pay attention to this. My second pick is Super Smash Brothers Brawl on the Wii. Oh my god. No, that no, no, no. It isn't that we're just sitting here playing a fighting game. There's a there is a story mode to this called Subspace Emissary. It's two players. It takes about seven to eight hours to beat. I want you all to play it with your either your sons or like I said, bring Jeff over. I want y'all to beat this shit. It's like cutscenes, full crazy Nintendo shit. I want y'all to play the Super Smash Brothers Brawl campaign mode.

SPEAKER_01 53:40

I mean that's not the one that like. Am I thinking of the Wii one that has a big story? That's the one that's the one I'm saying. The Wii one, Super Smash Brothers Bra.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

We're playing this. The Wii. Yeah, this is the Wii one. Okay. Yeah, and like, is your first character Kirby? Kirby and Mario. As are the two that you start with.

SPEAKER_01 54:02

That'll be a good time. That'll be fun. I've never played that.

SPEAKER_00 54:06

I will do everything in my power to play this game and find it and hook it up and somehow play it.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

Beat it all the way through. When you unlock a snake as a character, that's when it will really get rolling.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

Yeah, I guess we'll do that. Um just kidding. I will pick my two games. The first one is going to be Bioshock. The one the original Bioshock. It's been a long time since I've played any Bioshock game, and I really want to get into it again. And the second one, I'm nervous about picking because I'm not sure exactly how you guys are going to play it. Jared's going to be really upset about it too, because he hates this series.

SPEAKER_03 54:48

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 54:50

But I'm picking the original Digimon World.

SPEAKER_01 54:53

Oh, what the hell? I'm pumped.

SPEAKER_02 54:58

Why'd you say Jared hate it?

SPEAKER_00 55:00

I was just messing. I was trying to throw him off the track. It's a Digimon World game, though. God damn it, another fucking Resident Evil game.

SPEAKER_02 55:08

No. No, what is this system on? Um or what is it? What's this game on?

SPEAKER_00 55:13

PS PS1. Okay, okay. So it's called Digimon What? Digimon World. World. The original. OG. PS1. Digimon World.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

I got a background with that. Is there any other way to play it besides PS1 that you know of, Carter? Like, can't is this a this ain't a classic PS3? Like you can't get another version of it?

SPEAKER_00 55:33

I don't believe so. I can emulate it, so that's no that's no big issue for me. And I have a copy somewhere. So I can emulate it. And if you need a copy, Jared, I have a copy.

SPEAKER_01 55:42

I think I've I think it's on my phone for some reason on like a emulator.

SPEAKER_02 55:48

I'm I'm pumped. Let's let's recap here. My two picks are Luigi's Mansion and Super Smash Brothers Brawl, the campaign mode, Subspace Emissary, Carter's Picks is Digimon World, and Bioshock. Jared's picks, Metropolis Mania on the PS2, and GTA Vice City on the PS2. The four community picks are Little Nemo. God know why I'm blanking on this show.

SPEAKER_00 56:16

You should have just had me read this. Yeah, that is true. Carter finishes off Little Nemo. There's Little Nemo, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Metroid Fusion, and Earthworm Gem. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 56:27

I think it's a solid season. We got a little bit of everything in there. I'm pumped. Alrighty, Carter. Let's see what we're playing.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

Alrighty, time to spin a wheel, because I did download a wheel because that just feels natural.

SPEAKER_02 56:37

That's classic.

SPEAKER_00 56:38

It's traditional. Here we go. So like a drum roll. Holy shit. Welcome, boys. It's been fun. Uh been fun. This has been great. We're playing Smash Bros. Brawl.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

Now, Carter, is this really that? Like, is it gonna be hard for you? Like, can you emulate this?

SPEAKER_00 57:01

Do you have a do you have a no? I cannot emulate this one, but I do think I've got a Wii somewhere, and maybe this game.

SPEAKER_02 57:08

The good news is I don't think this game is expensive at all. And let me see. I I don't want you to have to buy it either, because I know this is literally audience, this is Carter's Kryptonite.

SPEAKER_00 57:18

This is it can't get more hated for Carter than I'm not a kryptonite. I'm just I don't see the appeal of just uh mashing buttons and not really being able to play a game. But you're like they're like, hey, what's your character doing? Oh, I have no idea. It reminds me of uh there's this game called uh God, Elliot and play it all the time. It's like uh it's like these big fat putty guys and they throw each other off the side. Game gang beast. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That that's what this game is to me, because I tried playing it, I'm like, I can't control this. There's nothing going on. Okay. I'm like, I push a punch button, it doesn't punch. That's Smash Bros.

SPEAKER_02 57:53

This is the only Smash game to have a full campaign mode. Like cutscenes, like it's like intricate, like it's a campaign mode. That's all I want you all to play if you can get a hold of it. It's two players. I know Jared can play it with Dawson or Owen and have a fun ass time playing it.

SPEAKER_03 58:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:08

Carter, if you want to bring Jeff over, do that. Or if Elliot plays, whatever. I'm telling you, it's it's a lot of fun if you can get your hands on it.

SPEAKER_00 58:16

If not, was Smash Brothers fun for the 64?

SPEAKER_02 58:20

Uh I didn't really play that one.

SPEAKER_00 58:21

That was the one that was like.

SPEAKER_02 58:25

I like Smash. Well, hold on, let me go back.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

I said no when you asked N64, you I said no. I today, like, it's still fun. I don't know what I'm saying no for, but like I think it's lost its like back in the day, if you had Smash on N64 and you had like buddies over, that's a top-notch multiplayer game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:49

And I think at the very least, Carter could hate every bit of the gameplay, but I think he'll get something out of the cutscenes from this story mode. Like it's very well made, very like, you know, video game, uh, like little references left and right. It's appealing to video game fans. Like, I think you'll get something out of it.

SPEAKER_00 59:06

Yeah. I might like it. You never know. Spending some time with Smash, I've just never spent time with it.

SPEAKER_02 59:11

Alrighty, boys. So we're going to the Wii. This may be the first ever Wii game we've ever had in pod history. It is. Very fun. Do you have do you own this game, Jared?

SPEAKER_01 59:21

I think I've got two or three copies of it.

SPEAKER_02 59:23

Well, shit, if you do, give it to Carter, give one to Carter. That's perfect.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

I I'll I'll look for sure. I know, I know I've got at least one copy, but I think I've got like this is one of these that I've gotten a couple over the years.

SPEAKER_02 59:36

Yeah. And the good news is with the Wii, is like you can play it with a lot of different uh like controller combinations. If you have a GameCube controller and a Wii, you can plug it into the top and use a GameCube controller, use a Wii Remote, a Wii Remote Nunchuck, classic controller, etc. You can use a bunch of different variations. Nice. Alrighty, boys. So let's get into a little bit of Smash.

SPEAKER_00 59:57

Nope, let's mash.