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Welcome to The Not So Late Show Episode- Six  featuring special guest Robots With Rayguns and a musical performance from Ashley and her new singe Summer Weather. 


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John Byrnes: [00:00:00]  Good evening and welcome to the Not So Late Show. We've got a great show in store for you tonight with special guests, Robots With Rayguns. Tonight's show will also feature the musical stylings of Ashley! But first, without further ado, please welcome your host, Crypto Kyle! [00:01:00] 

Kyle: Well, good evening and welcome to The Not So Late Show. So excited to have you guys here Once again, we're starting off episode six. Guys, we got a great show ahead of you. We have some great guests, Robots with Rayguns and Ashley with a performance of her new song and, and I just can't wait for you to hear it.

It's gonna be an awesome time. John, how you feeling buddy? 

John Byrnes: Doing good. Doing good, Kyle, glad to be here as usual, you know, always excited for. Recording time. 

Kyle: I don't know if you saw this, but your favorite sport has come back for the first time and since the pandemic went, the pandemic Damn pandemic.

Why I call it that? 

John Byrnes: Oh man. You know, I love, Japanese, head-to-head tug of war just waiting for myself to go bald over here [00:02:00] so, uh, I could participate. You know, , 

Kyle: for those of you who don't know John's favorite sport in the world, it's, it's just behind Oscars cuz Oscars is also a sport, is tug of war.

Bald headed, tug of war. We're not talking the old school. You got five and there's a, there's a line and you're getting pulled into the fake lobby. Oh no, whatever. We're talking head to head suction cup Mario esque plumber suctions on. Amazing. It's the center of the forehead. But John, I got some good news for you buddy.

John Byrnes: Whoa. What's going? 

Kyle: Well, in order to increase participation this year, since it was canceled for so many years, they're actually welcoming anybody to attend 

John Byrnes: really?

Kyle: The festivities. 

John Byrnes: How's that gonna work? 

Kyle: Well, you got you got two choices. Basically, if you don't have a bald head, you can use either your left or the right cheek of your buttocks.

John Byrnes: Oh, man. 

So are they gonna allow, you know, head to bud or butt to bud? What's the 

strategy there? 

Kyle: You know, I, I didn't get a chance to read through the fine print, but I gotta say, I wouldn't [00:03:00] wanna be on the butt end receiving of the tug of war for sure. 

John Byrnes: Good Lord. . 

Kyle: It's quite the sight even to think about it.

John Byrnes: Yeah, yeah. 

Kyle: Oh man. We have a married woman eloped with a man, which, I mean, I guess that's, that's not too surprising In a surprising turn of events, the husband actually retaliated by marrying that man's white. Wow. That's 

John Byrnes: a real brain twister do you have a diagram to help us understand this?

Kyle: It's, it's real, it's real complicated. Basically, you know, you've heard of the love triangle? 

John Byrnes: Yeah.

Kyle: It's just a love square. 

Oh, a little simpler than I was thinking. . It, it's, it's, 

John Byrnes: it's a vindictive square. 

Kyle: Oh man. In, in, in another turn of events, North Carolina Purple honey. Wow. Absolutely insane. I dunno if you've seen the images, John, but this is

John Byrnes: it's a nice purple it's a pretty shade . 

Kyle: It is. It's a very you can't even call it burgundy. It's like Welch's grape juice purple. [00:04:00] But even , even prettier. I don't know. It's, it's a nice, it's a nice thing. Really curious to try it. You know when asked for a comment, North Carolina resident in j Cole said he felt vindicated because the neighbors thought he was selling dope.

In fact, he was just selling purple, honey. 

John Byrnes: Oh, wow. I think he he wrote a song about that, didn't he?

Kyle: He did. Yep, he did. And then of course, little Wayne, was in the background just going purple, honey, baby man, . Now I know. This company, Mo Cycle, has just launched its first airbag jeans for motorcyclist.

Man. 

John Byrnes: Wow.

Kyle: These pants, they inflate, it's, they literally inflate like an airbag. There's a rip cord, you attach it to the side of the bike, and apparently it takes 85 pounds of pressure. There's some safety precautions involved. Okay. 

But yeah, you, you, so they're not just hitting a, a pothole 

and boom, . No, no.

That would be too good. You imagine immediately, you're, you're five inches taller. So yeah, [00:05:00] we 

were watching a, a demo on their website about this thing and, really worked like a charm. You know, I think they still have some kinks to work out, because after that first bounce off the highway, which was amazing.

The guy just kept flying. I don't know, maybe they put helium in there or something on accident. Uh, but not too long after then, you know, we did see a few F 22 fighter jets in the area. So , 

I dunno, they thought it was another balloon . I also heard that they wanted to copyright the phrase applebom jeans due to copyright.

They went with motorcycle mo cycle. How about more booty? Oh God, man, I, I, I know they look ridiculous, but people are saying they really twerked huh? And when you, uh, you know when that hits the pavement? Yeah. But when these things inflate, man, they really put mc hammer to shame. Oh god. . Yeah. I guess, uh, traffic stopped on the George Washington Bridge after a motorcyclist inflated his pair of pants.

Donald Trump of course, tweeting out that it was Chris Christie shutting down the bridges once again. [00:06:00] 

John Byrnes: We know he loves to do that.

Kyle: Remember when he shut down the beach and he was just like sitting there. 

John Byrnes: And then I know it's one of my favorites. Sorry, . And he was just on the beach with his family. Yeah, he's just 

Kyle: on the beach all the beaches are closed and he's just sitting there beached. 

John Byrnes: Amazing. 

Kyle: John, I know man, Oscars are coming up. Your favorite time of the year. What are you feeling about this year's Oscars? Man, 

you know, I'm excited. I think it was a great year. We got the Oscars this Sunday nine o'clock Eastern. So everyone that's interested.

Make sure you tune in. I if, if not for anything else, then to prove me, wrong and laugh at my wrong picks. Although I'm not thinking there's many of those because this year I put all my time and effort into picking the perfect films. So let's just dig in. Kyle. I don't know how many of these you've seen or not, but let's get through the list.

It's not every award, but they are the awards 

I think matter, man. We've been advertising you were gonna go through all of it. We're gonna be here for at least [00:07:00] hours. Whoa, whoa, whoa, 

John Byrnes: whoa. I don't have the, uh, , I don't have the contract in front of me here, Kyle, so you can't Oh, man. All right. Legally. Okay. So this year we'll start off with the actors and actresses.

We got, uh, Kay Wek from everything Everywhere, all at once. You guys are gonna be hearing a lot about that during the Sigma, that film. But I do believe that he's gonna take this one. And I was actually surprised to learn that he's the same actors as in the Temple Doom, right? 

Kyle: Yeah. I really, I couldn't, I was shocked that this was the same Kiwi Kwan from Temple Doom.

That's absolutely incredible. Su 

John Byrnes: such a common name, you know. All right, moving on. We got our best supporting actress. This is probably gonna be the toughest award of the night, but I'm gonna have to go with every, everything everywhere, all. Once again, Jamie Lee Curtis Classic. Foul actress, but it is gonna be a really tough call.

I think Carrie Conan from Banes of Sheen is a really good call as well. 

Kyle: Is the [00:08:00] also the Banes from, from Ed Sheeran, right? That's what it's called. Yeah. The Banes of Sheen. Oh, en Sheen. I'm sorry. I thought it was the edge. What, what'd you say? Ed Shearing Ed. She film . 

John Byrnes: The Banes of Ed Sheering. I loved it.

Yeah. And I wish it would win more awards, but I do think everything everywhere all at once is gonna take so many away from it, unfortunately. So here, and also another significant mention on supporting actresses, Angela Bassett in the Black Panther. That's another, that's, I think that's really a tossup any three of them has a chance.

On, on Oscar Knight. Let's move over to lead actor. This is a guy we, here at the p at the pod love. We got Brennan Frazier. Brandon Fraser, I should say. Yep. We figured out that's how he likes his name, but that's how his name is pronounced. And I think this is a real no-brainer. He's gonna win the award.

If anyone can steal it, it's gonna be Austin Butler and Elvis. And I hear he is still doing the accent, so maybe he deserves it. I don't know. What, what's your thoughts, Scott? , 

Kyle: you know I want like somebody to capture video of granite that video is, [00:09:00] or that movie rather is incredible. But if somebody could get him on video, like doing the Elvis voice saying that, like, that's just his voice again, like to me, that's some of the funniest stuff I've seen on YouTube.

But it's an unfortunate you know, circumstance of going into character for basically three years. But I did get stuck there somewhere. He's working on, on getting away from that voice. I don't know if that's public knowledge, but somebody leaked it. At least he's going like 

John Byrnes: or something. 

Kyle: Yeah, may, maybe he can do a picture about the filming of Forrest Gump and he can get in a character with Tom Hanks' voice.

That would be interesting. Incredible. Hope he won't get stuck there. There, though. 

John Byrnes: Talk about a full circle. We'll get him talking like Tom Hanks after, after working with him home. Tom Hanks is also in the movie if you haven't seen it. All right, so let's move on to Lead Actress. This is one of the biggest awards of the night, and I do believe, again, we're gonna see it go to everything everywhere, all at once.

Michelle, yo. She's a star. She did so much in this [00:10:00] movie from kicking ass and flying fight scenes to making us cry. And I think she's gonna win it. But if anyone can take the award away, it's gonna be Kate Blanchett in her Bizarre, all-encompassing role as a maestro. In tar. So yeah, I can't say I necessarily recommend that movie cause it's incredibly boring, but she does a great job.

Kyle: As long as you put it politely, that's all that matters. . 

John Byrnes: All right Now to the nerd Awards nah. Nerd Words now to the Nerd Awards, which I personally love so much. 

So let's start with the screenplays. We have the best original screenplay award. Again, sorry, it's like a broken record here that's gonna go to everything everywhere, all at once.

Incredible film. Yeah, it was so good. Such a cool film. 

Kyle: I haven't watched it yet, but it looks so, so good. , 

John Byrnes: definitely watch it. All right. It's, yeah, I will. It's really incredible. But, you know, if I could pick [00:11:00] my favorite original story of the year, it would've been the Banes of, but again, it's gonna go to everything, everything everywhere, all once so, I think that's a, that's a solid pick and then adapted screenplay.

This is gonna go to all Quiet on the Western front in my opinion. It's an incredible reproduction of the classic World War I film, really brilliant movie and it's super, truly adapted to the original, so I think that's why it's gonna win that award. Let's move on to best editing. This is an award close to my heart cuz some of you know that my true passion besides sidecar, this amazing podcast is editing videos.

So I love editing and I think everything everywhere, all at once is again gonna take home Another Oscar here. You know, these scenes where they have these fight scenes and the characters are like flickering between their alternate selfs. These like different costumes as they're like mid fight scene, I mean, It's, it was a feat of editing [00:12:00] and really accomplished something with it.

So I'm super confident that it's gonna take that award home. Top Gun could, there's talk that top guns editing was really amazing. You know, they put those cameras on those jets and accomplished some really cool flying scenes. But I doubt it. I think this is easily going to everything everywhere at once.

Let's move on to best cinematography. This one, I do believe is going to all quiet on the Western Front. Incredible camera work which is the name of the game here. Intense battle scenes, you know, these amazing tracking shots of the guys running outta the trenches and crossing no man's land. And these huge, you know, absolutely monumental battle scenes.

So if you haven't seen it, that one's on Netflix. Check it out. It's incredible if you have the stomach. It's a really brutal movie. Let's go on to, I would say, the second biggest award of the night. For best director, and I guess I should say directors here cuz [00:13:00] it's going to Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheiner collectively known as the Daniels who both wrote and directed everything everywhere, all at once,

So I don't know if you're sick of hearing that name yet, but you better get used to it cuz we're not done yet. We're going to the big finale here. We got several solid films nominated, so I'm gonna go ahead and just list them all. Avatar, the way of the water, triangle of Sadness, women Talking Tar Elvis, all quiet on the Western front.

The Fable Men's Top Gun Maverick, the Banshees of Sherin and everything everywhere, all at once. But the best picture of them mall is you guessed. Everything everywhere, all at once. super, super cool movie 

directed and written by the Daniels as they're being labeled. And it's really, you know, I'm a big fan of the Oscars and it's really not every year that we're lucky enough to get a kick ass sci-fi martial arts movie that also happens to [00:14:00] be technically beautiful and artistically challenging enough to qualify for the top prize.

But I do think this year we are that lucky. So if you haven't seen it, check it out. It's on Showtime. Get your hands on it however you can. Incredible movie. Keep you on the edge of your seat until the last minute. And I think it's a shoe win. Call Vegas. Put your bets down. The odds are terrible cuz it's gonna obviously win.

But 

Kyle: what's your parlay? 

John Byrnes: It's it who I think you could, I think, I don't wanna get in trouble here, but I think you could parlay cinematographer, director and best picture off of my calls. I'm solid on these calls. You can parlay the whole damn thing. . 

You could parlay, you could parlay the whole thing, in my opinion.

Tell me how you really feel, John. . 

Robots with Rayguns: Are we going for the tv, ma? 

Kyle: Here? I don't . Yeah. Yeah. No man. That's that's just some good picks. I'm excited to see what happens. Of course, once again, Jimmy [00:15:00] Kimmel hosting Third year in the Rabbit. Let's see if he offends anybody this year. , it seems like every year he's in trouble for something.

Oh. Have you got any these days? 

John Byrnes: You got any predictions? Talking about calls? Do you got any predictions for what the what the controversy is this year? Someone getting slapped? Maybe. I don't know. Something else that we can't think, that we haven't thought 

Kyle: of? Man, you know what? Somebody's gonna do something stupid.

I think they may try to keep it off. I think they might be, oh yeah, the 32nd 

John Byrnes: they're doing the delay thing. 

Kyle: Yeah, I think they're gonna go for like a 32nd delay type thing this year. Well, we'll be 

John Byrnes: here next week to cover all the drama, so. Yeah, definitely. And, and if, if I'm wrong, which I'm not gonna be, we'll be here too.

Ridicule and shame me. 

Kyle: So we're gonna pie you live on the podcast, . Let's go. It's anything. Oh, man. No, that's it, it, it was definitely a, a big year for movies. So many years. [00:16:00] Not much of anything came out and when it did, there was, I mean, it was all straight to home releases, but yeah, it wasn't, there was like a solid year and a half where there was just nothing interesting.

For the most part. Coming out there was like maybe one or two. So for us to have a, if you could call 2022 a year that people returned to the movie theater, which I mean, people did not in the numbers that it was at before, but still this was definitely. For the first time and probably since 2019 that there was like six movies I wanted to go see in theaters, even though I knew I'd have the opportunity to watch Met Home.

There was just, there was just quite a few movies that came out. Yeah, 

John Byrnes: I totally agree. It's, and like I watched a lot of these, cuz that's something I like to talk about is, you know, having watched the Oscars for a long time, it used to be difficult if you didn't live in, you know, LA or New York to even watch all the films.

Right. I used to have to use less than less savory [00:17:00] methods to watch all the films before Oscars because a lot of them, you know, come out in December in the theaters. But this year, like you're saying, most of these films were available on streaming services and yet, like, I would've loved to see all Quiet on the Western front in theaters or Top Gun in theaters or everything, all, everything everywhere.

All wants in theaters. Like, I think. There was just so many. And like Avatar, I haven't seen that yet. I'm probably, I'm a bald so I'm probably not gonna see in theaters, but like that movie feels like it's born to be seen in the theaters. Right? Like a top gun feels like it can't experienced in the theaters is gonna be something special.

Kyle: Right. Right. Yeah. I don't disagree with you there. All right. Well John, I know you got a special connection here with with a correspondent out in the field. This Borg thing has taken colleges by storm and I'd love to hear what what your correspondent has to say just to get Well, it's incredible speed on this.

You know, this 

John Byrnes: is a new [00:18:00] concerning trend people are calling it. And you know, we thought what better way to explore this? And to give Fred something to do, honestly, cuz he was here at the studio and it was like, Oh, how do we get Fred outta here? So we sent Fred , we sent Fred to university of Massachusetts Amherst.

And he's been doing a little bit of investigative reporting. So let's go live to UMass Amherst. Fred, are you there? Can you hear me? 

Fred Anderson: Hey John. I'm here at, uh, UMAS Amherst, uh, uh, campus, and I'm ready to, you know, really dig in on this issue and learn more about the Borg. 

John Byrnes: Wow. So I'm hearing here, um, That 28 ambulances, uh, last weekend had to be deployed, uh, to deal with a quote, significant number of alcohol intoxication cases.

What, what's it look like out there today? 

Kyle: All right, 

Fred Anderson: John, I'm going to find me, uh, uh, a [00:19:00] local college student. Uh, this guy over here, he looks like, uh, he looks like he's, uh, he would know something about the Borg. Hey, hey. Can I have your attention for a second? Yeah, bro. 

Kyle: What's 

Fred Anderson: up? What's up? What's up? What's up?

What's up? We're here today to learn more about the Borg. It's been all over the news. It's taken, uh, the young people by storm. And, uh, tell me, tell me about the Borg. What is the So 

Kyle: listen to this, bro. So the Borg man, it's like, uh, you gotta freaking, you gotta freaking get into it, bro. Uh, resistance is fueled brow.

You're gonna get freaking, you gonna get freaking assimilated because Borg is where it's freaking at, bro. I'm telling you. This is the place, this is the party. I don't care how many ambulances they send. We're gonna go hard. We're gonna go hard like we do at freaking Boston. The time. Don't tell me how to park my car.

Right. Let's get out here, let's get freaking roasted. Wow. 

Fred Anderson: Wow. That was, that was really, that was really insightful. I think I learned a lot. Well, when I got here to the campus, John, [00:20:00] um, I was given, uh, a gallon, uh, what looks like a water jug, uh, filled with a, uh, orange liquid, which I can only guess is, uh, is Kool-Aid.

So, um, wow. Young. Um, is this Borg in this gallon that I have 

Kyle: here? Uh, sir, I believe that is just Gatorade, wink, wink. It's just Gatorade. Everything will be okay. Oh, it's just normal 

John Byrnes: Gatorade. You should be fine then. Fred. 

Fred Anderson: I, I should be fine. But what, what's the difference between Borg? Because, uh, the Borg has electrolytes.

Okay. And I, and, and, and what I've learned was that you add electrolytes to stay hydrated so you could drink longer. Do do I have that 

Kyle: right? I believe you've equated that properly. 

John Byrnes: And this is a college kid, so you know, he's, no, don't. This is UMass. All right. All right. 

Fred Anderson: So can, can, can you tell me how popular Borg is [00:21:00] on this campus?

Kyle: Well, I, I'm not very popular, but, uh, my friend gear could tell you, 

Fred Anderson: Hey, gimme the popular guy. 

Ashley: Craig drinks the pork. Yeah. Oh, this guy seems cool. Popular 

Fred Anderson: guy. What's going with nobody? The, I want to know about the Borg. It's like, what's the most, how many, what's, what's, what's the most bork you've ever drank 

Kyle: in a single bowl?

Like one and a half gallons, man. Did 

Fred Anderson: you go to the hospital? Just the way, but all those woos, I I think this, uh, this, uh, Gatorade is starting to, uh, to kick in right now. 

John Byrnes: Uh, those electrolytes are surging right now, huh? I, I don't, 

Fred Anderson: I don't know, man. I don't know what these college students I've put in my drink butt.

Kyle: Listen, I've been 

John Byrnes: watching a few of these tos and they're saying that most of these people are naming their borgs with the marker. Check, take a look at your jug. Does it have a name on it? 

Fred Anderson: Uh, it it, it does John. It, it actually [00:22:00] says Thor. It says Thor. It says, it says Thor. Or my jug. Thor . This is, oh, it does, it does.

It does say tht. Uh, I think my vision is getting a little fuzzy here, John. I'm gonna interview one more student. Fred, 

John Byrnes: it sounds like that might be Borg. You have, just be careful. 

Ashley: Okay. I'm gonna 

Fred Anderson: interview one more student. John. Hey. Hey, young lady. 

Kyle: Yes. 

Fred Anderson: You're looking good. I'm sorry. Uh, what I mean to say is, uh, can you tell me about Bo?

Yeah. 

Drink . 

John Byrnes: What the heck's going on over there, Fred? Uh, nah. 

Fred Anderson: Just getting it, just having a little fun with the kids. 

John Byrnes: Uh, this seems like it might be getting a little outta hand.

Fred Anderson: Uh, hey, we'll, we'll come back to you later, John. And cut the camera off. Cut the camera off. Fred. 

John Byrnes: [00:23:00] Fred d Wow. Well, I guess, um, I think we had technical issues there.

Kyle, what, what's your thought about the Bork, the Black outrage Gallon? 

Kyle: You know what, I'm gonna stick out of it. What I will say is, you know, parents. You gotta raise your kids, right? You gotta be careful man. The can't succumb to peer pressure. All right, and here is our first guest of the evening, Lucas Patrick Smith, affectionately known as robots with Ray Guns.

How are you feeling today, sir? I'm feeling 

Robots with Rayguns: pretty 

Kyle: good. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, man. Absolutely. Super excited to have you here. Lot of fans of yours are listeners, so this is just works out perfectly for us for [00:24:00] sure. I gotta tell you before we get started, I've had, we've had some fights behind the scenes.

Now everybody is not certain how to pronounce your last album. I've always said it was life with. Kanye West using some phonetic funds there. But some people think it's Kanye Quest, 

Robots with Rayguns: which is it? It's, well, it's Zays and then Quest. So kind of like Johnny Quest. But yeah, it is a parody of his album, the Life of Pablo.

And so that was kind of a theme going on throughout the album of just kind of, to me that that album's kind of an epitome of kind of ego and embracing the ego in order to destroy it. And everything I do is kind of a little bit tongue in cheek, but we were just talking about it. 

Kyle: They're like, how do you say that?

I was like, you know what? We're just have to ask him. Cuz he, he only he knows for sure. Yeah. I 

Robots with Rayguns: wonder how many other people are, are tripped up by. That [00:25:00] adds a little bit 

Kyle: of mystery. Yeah. Love that album. I know I told you that offline, but yeah, that album, it's, I listen to that thing like crazy, man. It's like,

Every song is just a banger. It's incredible. 

Robots with Rayguns: That's awesome. I might release some more stuff from it. Originally was gonna be the 15 tracks and after talking with my manager, we were like, let's maybe crunch it down a little bit. Want to kind of release some, some other kind of remixes and B sides from that maybe, uh, in the future.

Kyle: That'd be incredible. Everybody that's been hanging out with me for at least the last year in person and in spaces always kind of hears your music playing in the background or on the forefront depending on what we're doing. So, uh, it's pretty exciting. Oh, sweet and flattered. Which one's your favorite?

Man, I'm really bad with track names now, which I used to be the guy that got mad at people for that. But Track three, I believe that's the one with the Oh, 

Robots with Rayguns: okay. Yeah, that's 

Kyle: everyone's favorite. Is it everybody's favorite? Oh man, I gotta pick a cooler one. I had the shuffle [00:26:00] on when I clicked the album when it first dropped, and for some reason that was the first one that played, 

Robots with Rayguns: that actually got synced on, uh, Love island, like the US version.

Oh really? And it's just funny to, to see like, I mean, I don't necessarily watch the show, but I watched a few episodes to kind of like see what it's about. And it, it's crazy to me to, to hear my music playing on weird dating show where everything that's going on while the music is playing is just silly.

That's gotta 

Kyle: be surreal where you can shazam yourself 

Robots with Rayguns: anywhere. , I think you can look up on Shazam and see how many people have like 

Kyle: Shazamed to certain songs. Oh, probably. Oh yeah, that'd be interesting. Um, good Time might actually be my favorite. It's like that, like three through five are like my, my top.

I just like the way the Elq hada blend together. But good Time is definitely the one I was thinking 

Robots with Rayguns: of. Yeah, I definitely like putting together like kind of massive concept albums [00:27:00] that all. Feel like it flows into one, one another. How 

Kyle: did you get started in music as a whole? How did you find you were a creative person and where'd you find that vein becoming something that was musical?

Robots with Rayguns: I mean, I've always been creative. When I was younger, I went to a lot of art camps and art schools and I, I always knew I was gonna be an artist and everybody kind of knew when I was like 15, my buddy gave me like a, a CD with a digital audio workstation, software bird onto to it. Just started playing around with it.

I think the first thing that I did was like a nine inch nails mashed up with like this cello band rasputina. It was very crude. When I look back on the stuff that I made, when I dig it up, it, it's, it's pretty crazy to see how far I've come and how I thought it sounded cool at the time. But yeah, ever since then, just kind of playing around with it and experimented, wasn't classically trained.

I mean, I, I took piano lessons, but I didn't really want to do. What I [00:28:00] was instructed to do and I just wanted to kind of play around and see what else I could make. So that didn't work out too well. I just kind of really self-taught and just kind of played around with it. A lot of it's experimental and that's how it kind of got my group going.

I put out an industrial album when I was a teenager and then robots with Rega and started as a side project cuz I just wanted to do kind of something fun, a little bit silly, very retro at the time, nobody was really doing that kind of thing very much. Now it's pretty different. So it was, it was kind of hard to gain an audience, but this was back MySpace days, so I had my MySpace pimped out and everything and then that was the blog days after that, like, uh, 2010 ish, you know, a few years after that.

And that's kind of how it kind of spread. People 

Kyle: forget about MySpace and pure volume, but. As a creator. That was the avenue we had to go to was MySpace, , [00:29:00] MySpace, and Pure Volume. I remember I loved Pure Volume, particularly, I think maybe because it was easier to, to work with music on there until MySpace kind of amped up their game.

But there's songs I had uploaded on MySpace that I don't have uploaded anywhere else, that when they did that refresh I was like, oh, I can never go back and listen to those again. I should have downloaded those when I thought of it. Yep. But I thought it would always be there. Crazy. Yeah. 

Robots with Rayguns: I'm really bad with that.

I think my first album that I came out with an album slash Mixtape, electro and Dead, that actually debuted on binary. That was kind of at the height of the, the blog house days. And that was actually the second version of it. Cuz the first version I had created a couple years before and I reformatted my hard drive and didn't back it up.

Oh no. I'm terrible at that. , I've lost so much. Oh, 

Kyle: that's tough. It's terrible. Oh man. We, we had a band on last week. They had to record the song a third [00:30:00] time. They had lost their hard drive and then the second hard drive they knocked over and it just like, just broke. So they had to start all over again.

Robots with Rayguns: You gotta back everything up back, everything out. At least once, twice, three times. Yeah. That's crazy. Just in case the 

Kyle: digital age, I'm sure people are always trying to put you in a box, even though it's impossible. Your music's like a blend of so many different things. Retro, modern, futuristic. You got like house celibates, everything, man.

You're hitting all the marks. That's gotta be the reason why it, it, it hits so many different people because there's such a wide scope of what you're doing musically, that there's a little bit of something for everybody. I, I'd have to say I, I doubt there's too many people that can't find something. In your music that they vibe with?

Well, it's 

Robots with Rayguns: a, it's a bit of a catch 22 because I, I feel like, yeah, that, that is the case a little bit, but also it's much harder to market my music and for people [00:31:00] to discover it because it does it so, like, you know, it, it has a lot of different genres blended in and it's kind of hard to categorize. So I've never even been on a, a Spotify playlist or anything like that because it's hard to kind of fit in.

It's not one thing or another strong enough to, to kind of market. So I've always kind of had a problem with that, but I think. In the end, it doesn't really matter that much. I think the people that are are gonna get it, are 

Kyle: gonna get it. We can always petition Spotify to make robots. The Rays category, just make that a genre.

Robots with Rayguns: Yeah. I'll start my own genre. You'd be on all the, 

Kyle: you'd be on all the Spotify 

Robots with Rayguns: playlists. I also like to joke around that I invented synth wave that was kind of like an inside joke between me and some friends. One of which Steve Gilson who uh, masters on my albums, he had a blog back in the day called Project Friday, and that's kind of where the term synth wave was coined.

And we just joke [00:32:00] around that cuz he was trying to describe music that was similar to me and a few other artists, but there were only a few at the time. So he kind of came up with that term and it just kind of took off and then now it's just its own beast. It's kind of like a tongue in cheek inside. You know, it's 

Kyle: interesting too because a lot of music, whether it's synth wave or.

Bedroom, pop, there's like 20 smaller names and sometimes they're more well known. Yeah. Than like the main genre. Like I know one for a long time you were seeing like dream pop pop up everywhere and Bedroom Pop and then now they call that, I don't even remember they call it anymore. But then with Synth Wave, you got future base though there's differences, they kind of just get, get caught up in the uh, in the machine of trying to, well what genre is this?

You even see it with metal bands putting their music as hard Rock . They're hard rock. Cuz if they put metal and they have one song they're not screaming [00:33:00] in or they have a ballad, people aren't gonna hear it. Yeah, that's true. So dang 

Robots with Rayguns: genres man. Yeah. But I think with the, the internet age it's becoming a lot different and more channels for people to, to hear stuff and people are making all kinds of music and new music and new sounds and you know, I always kind of love to.

Push the envelope and do new things that haven't been done before and it just kind of have fun with it rather than just kind of stay in the lane of what works. So I think, you know, it's been hard for me to find that commercial success a lot of other people do by staying in that lane, but it's just, it's just fun for me.

I just like to play 

Kyle: around with that. Well, and that's the most important part, your creative aspect, building the soundscapes. Uh, one thing particularly I like about that track for, again, I'm terrible with so what song names now, but one thing I loved about the production, that's what I wanna talk about next, is kind of that staccato, like chopping of the voice that's like, that's the thing [00:34:00] that makes me love that song.

When I first listened I was like super into it, but when it got to that part and then at the end where you have like the higher, like our PIO synth, kinda like chosing in, that's where I'm like, okay, this is crazy. I love this. Could you talk just a little bit about, not particularly that song necessarily, but just your creative process and.

How you're inspired and how you're aesthetic and love of all things retro . How that inspires you when you're creating 

Robots with Rayguns: Well, the, the vocal chopping, which has kind of become a, a bit of a signature for me over the past decade, that actually started when I was making industrial music as a teenager. Cuz I didn't know, I didn't have any vocals.

I didn't sing, I don't like, I'm not good at singing. I didn't know anybody at the time who, who did. So what I did was I bought these royalty-free house vocal packs and just kind of played around with them. And what I did was I kind of slapped reverb on there, chopped it up, washed it out. It, it [00:35:00] kind of created this, this haunting effect.

And I'm very inspired by like Moby and his use of samples and, and things like that and the cinematic aspect of it. So like you were saying about good time towards the end, I like to to cheese it up and, and get it. Very cinematic because I think the cinema cinematic visuals, to me are very inspiring for my music.

So that kind of montage aspect really draws to me. But I, I think it's interesting to blend with, with dance music that you don't typically think of in that way. Um, and, and I think a lot of that comes from my influences of being into gothan, industrial music, um, future pop, things like that. And so there's a lot of blended elements in there that I just kind of like to have fun with.

And the vocal chopping just, I was just playing around and having fun with it. And, and then eventually I just kind of stuck and kind of became part of the, the [00:36:00] style, um, and the signature. Um, and it's just still something I, I love to 

Kyle: play around with. I just love, yeah, that song, man. I love the, the whole sequence.

The the, are you ready? The Higher Synth man, that song's killer. You've collaborated with quite a few people. Anything that you've learned from working with other musicians either recently or at your start or both? Well, most of 

Robots with Rayguns: the time when I'm doing it, it's not in person, so it's like kind of over the internet, back and forth.

I think I've been pretty lucky in having worked with some really awesome people that kind of get my style and it works out pretty well. Sometimes it doesn't, but for the most part, I feel like when I find somebody that I wanna work with, I kind of know how we're going to make it work and, and how they'll fit in.

And I've just, I've met all, all kinds of people from different scenes, different [00:37:00] genres, and, and that's what I really like to do. I, I don't like to kind of stick with a, a set scene of people. That everyone's kind of familiar with. I like to bring other people in from different genres and styles, and then that just kind of gets people excited more and, and explore new, new kinds of music.

Any 

Kyle: favorite collaborations? I know that's always a hard one to answer. You're like, oh, nobody hears this , but anyone that just like sticks out that you thought, man, this was a, a flawless experience, or maybe you came out with something a lot better than what you thought from the offset. The track 

Robots with Rayguns: I did with Frank Music off my album Cult Pop, which actually I think that's my personal favorite album that I've done.

But that one was really awesome because I've always wanted to work with him. I'd been a fan since like 2007, 2008 when I was in college. The way he made pop music and the way he produced was a, was a big inspiration for me, so to become friends with him and make some music [00:38:00] together, and it turned out way better than I an anticipated.

So that was really kind of a bucket list moment for me. And then my buddy Carl, who I've worked with a few times, I think three times at this point, like can actually release stuff. We're working on some stuff together to release as himself, as well as for my future stuff. He's really amazing and a really great vocalist writer.

And I just like having those, I like to kind of build a friendship when collaborating with people and have that connection cuz then it kind of sticks with you and it's 

Kyle: pretty cool. Yeah. That's all about relationships. Yeah. I mean, make music supposed to be fun. That's pretty terrible if you don't enjoy it,

Robots with Rayguns: Yeah, exactly. And, and a few times I've been approached to kind of work with some much bigger names and I think it's a few times it just didn't work out because it just felt, it didn't feel right. It felt like it. Less about wanting to create something cool and more about just a [00:39:00] business transaction. I just kind of wasn't feeling it.

Cuz then every time you listen to it, it's, it's gonna kind of make you think about that relationship and I'd rather have that. Yeah, it kind of ruins a song for 

Kyle: you. Yeah, it does add a extra baggage to it as well. Mm-hmm. , you're not the first person that shared that story with me. It's unfortunate, but part of the machine I guess, of getting music out there.

Um, what are some of the biggest challenges that you've seen? I know we talked about genre showcasing, but outside of that. What are some of the biggest challenges you've faced? Creating music and, and trying to get it out in front of people. Uh, I think, 

Robots with Rayguns: you know, overall, and it's a, it's such a cliche at this point, but for a good reason.

It's just the music industry is just really up and just kind of predatory. I know I personally have not signed to a label as an artist ever, and I don't ever plan to, I've, you know, released albums through labels. You know, one-off deals and everything like that, but it, it's a lot harder to [00:40:00] do it yourself, but it, it pays off in the long run cuz then you own the right steer music, you have that creative freedom.

You know, if I want to be able to, to do what I want to do without anybody saying, oh, you can't do that, or we're not gonna put it out. Um, you know, I'm, I just, I couldn't do it. So it, it's kind of a give and take between the big labels that kind of still control a lot. But I think a lot of artists don't realize how much control they do have now and how you can do a lot more, uh, so many things that you couldn't do before with no money and no backing by any major entity.

So I think a lot of what I like to try and do is, is to get that message out that you don't need a record label or anything like that anymore. But they, they still have a stronghold and, and there's a lot of stuff that seem genuine that just isn't payola still alive and well, if not more so. a lot of people that try and pit people against each other as if there's not enough space and, and I think that's a shame because [00:41:00] now with the internet there's just no need for that.

Everybody can, music is never going to be an art in general. There's, there's not gonna be where there's too much of it that people can't digest. Especially with streaming where you don't have to buy a bunch of albums so there's just no need for it. But I think one of the big challenges is just people still holding onto that old 

Kyle: model.

It's tough obviously for them cuz it was a money making machine and last few years world events have, have hyperspeed that up because people were at home and they had time to think about how to do things differently. You see that a lot, particularly in the web three space. We have a lot of Web three and independent artists showcased on the show just because it's easier because there's no holes for us to jump through.

You can have the person, like you said, that, that wrote and created the song going, yeah, I want you to beat the, the song on there. But if we put it on the podcast and there's a copyright strike, well now our podcast is deleted from, from Apple Music or [00:42:00] Spotify, just like that. We could be 300 episodes in, we could be 15 episodes in.

So it's kind of crazy. I just, it, it's just too big. It's way too big. It 

Robots with Rayguns: is crazy how many people are involved and, and people don't think about those things. I think it's funny when, when Major Labelable artists get blamed for things that it's just like, they don't even have control over that . Like people think that they just like, are these creative geniuses that just like have ideas that pop in their head and they manifest it and it's like if they only knew how many people in Suits made decisions that would, that override them, right?

Even, even though it's their name and their likeness and, and their image and sound. 

Kyle: The biggest struggle you see with people that go that vein, they end up breaking away because. Who they've become and who they were when they signed on, and who they want them to continue to be. Whether it's a single and ready to mingle person that's now got three kids that no longer wants to portray that image.

You [00:43:00] know, there's just so many different factors that go into 

Robots with Rayguns: that. I feel like it started to become a narrative of major label artists going independent and taking back their catalog and taking back their creative control and everything. But I think it's kind of backsliding, for instance, like Iggy Azalia is a good example of someone who was a major label player for a long time and a few years ago went independent.

She's like, I can do all of this. She edits, edits her own videos, producers them. She, she made it happen, and everybody has their reasons for doing things. But I found it sad, I guess, or. Dystopian to see that she sold her back catalog to a private equity firm, which is starting to become a trend, which is a little concerning.

So I feel like that kind of did away with that great powerful narrative of, you know, a, a major label artist going independent, taking control and showing that you can [00:44:00] do it on your own. And this trend of selling to private equity is just so surreal to me and, and dope. And it's like they're literally just stock portfolios with royalty rights, the songs and it's no longer own them.

Yeah, you get a big payday in the, in the front end, but it's not yours anymore. And it belongs to people that it's just a financial asset to them. 

Kyle: What about on the other side of it where she artist rerecording a live version or live album because they own the music, they retained the rights to their songs, but they didn't own the Masters?

Robots with Rayguns: Uh, well, no, and she's not doing like the Taylor Swift type thing. She sold it to a private equity firm, which is basically what Scooter Bron did. with Taylor Swift's catalog. I think a lot of it got caught up in, you know, her with Scott Borchetta and, and Steve or, and uh, uh, what's his name? Yeah. Uh, whatever scooter, uh, yeah, scooter

Uh, I think a lot of that, that narrative got caught up in that, but to me, the, the really depressing part of it was [00:45:00] not necessarily that he sold it without a per permission or like, you know, sold it to this person, but then that person sold it to a private equity firm. So, again, it's, it, it's just a bunch of people who see it as a, as a stock portfolio.

I think the, the re-recording kind of brings to light the, the complexities that most people don't see day-to-day of, of how music is made, how it's, how it's copyrighted, how it's distributed, and the different types of, of rights holders and things like that. Like, it's really complicated. So I think it, it kind of, Puts to light ownership in a different way that people aren't used to thinking about, 

Kyle: as we've talked about earlier.

Even if music's not fun or, or inspiring, it kind of is. What's the point? You know, you can make money doing lots of things, but why numerically destroy something that's created as art? It's just kind of sad. Most people 

Robots with Rayguns: don't do it [00:46:00] for the, for 

Kyle: the money. Yeah. I know you shared a, a memorable moment earlier, but what has been the most memorable moment under this moniker?

Well, 

Robots with Rayguns: I guess as we were talking about Taylor Swift, the one time Taylor Swift tweeted me, I, I tweeted her in the middle of the night, didn't expect anything. Said like, oh, you looked open this t-shirt. It was one of my T-shirts that had the logo on it. She actually responded and said she really wanted it and was listening to Sugar Baby.

So just seeing that, and I woke up and my phone had blown up and I was just like, what's going on? I thought it was a joke at first, but cool things like that. I think it, it's hard to. You're, you're kind of a slave to your perspective, so it, it's hard to kind of wrap your head around who actually sees you and who actually follows you and, and, and what impact you have on other people.

So I think, you know, a lot of times, like you can go through periods where you feel like you just don't [00:47:00] impact anything or anyone, and it, it, sometimes it's really cool to have a reminder that, you know, you may not see it firsthand, but it, it does happen. Yeah. So that 

was 

Kyle: pretty cool. Those little reminders that we're all human and we're all connected and all can enjoy the same things.

Those are always my favorite little moments. Can you tell us about any upcoming projects or collaborations? I know you said you had something in the works. 

Robots with Rayguns: I've got a few things going on, but want to just kind of this year put out music again. Maybe not necessarily a full album, but, you know, different kind of things.

And I also want to re-release stuff because I feel like, you know, nowadays there's no rules anymore. It's like you can, you can re-release something and have a whole era. So I think there's albums that I've had where I didn't get a chance to kind of promote in a way that I wanted to creatively and have fun with [00:48:00] that, like coal Pop in Savage Summer.

So I, starting with Savage Summer this year we rereleasing on vinyl and cassette and CD and all that. I got a, a wonderful partner in Time, slave Records and in the UK that does a great job. They put out Lasagna quest on all, all the physical formats in the box set, which are now really cool. Um, so I really want to kind of get back to, to that of having physical objects that people can get their hands on.

It's really difficult doing it myself, but when I, now that I have other people that can, can manage that task, then it's, it's a lot easier. So I'm looking forward to kind of revisiting a lot of the back catalog and, and reintroducing people to, that's one 

Kyle: thing I've liked in recent years. Now, I've been collecting vinyl for before it was cool, right?

but I didn't have a lot. I had a [00:49:00] few, you know, I wasn't like, uh, an aficionado or anything, but one thing that I remember when, you know, as a lover of technology and a lover of nostalgia, it was kind of a struggle. Uh, I remember how excited I was when the iPhone, at one point, you could turn it sideways. You could see the artwork and scroll through the albums.

Cause I felt like I had my rec, you know, my CDs back. Of course they don't have that anymore. But I remember that was kinda like the thing. I was like, oh, okay, well it's kind of still here now. You got the lyric books, but I missed the days of flipping through. You know, the booklets and and reading the lyrics or looking at who produced the tracks and just things like that.

I always enjoyed that and that's how those people got credit. People on Spotify aren't particularly looking at the credits of songs anymore and not that I'm picking on Spotify, just that's a popular one, but you do have the lyrics back. That's great. The one thing that's awesome about this resurgence in vinyl is for those albums you really just love and you [00:50:00] want to have a physical item to pass on to your loved ones and in the meantime hold onto, you have these great collectors editions, which I did see that you have zag quest on lions.

I definitely gotta grab that before that runs out cuz that's like, yeah, that I got super excited about that. 

Robots with Rayguns: I think there's still might be some of the pink ones, which honestly I actually like better than the gold ones that came with the box set. Pink's 

Kyle: actually one of my favorite colors. 

Robots with Rayguns: Oh, they look so sick in person.

Like really the hot pink on one on one side or it, it's split so it's hot pink and clear. And each of 'em are different because it has a different kind of pattern in the middle. It's, it's really, really 

Kyle: awesome. Yeah. It's, it's just, it's fun. And then you see people putting out, you know, collective pieces that have like whole comic books in 'em.

And first time I heard your music was probably, it was before, gosh, I wanna say it was like [00:51:00] 20 13, 

Robots with Rayguns: 20 14. Oh yeah. So, a while ago. A 

Kyle: while ago. But I do remember, again, I'm terrible with names. Cold pop. I remember that one. Like, I felt like everybody I knew was listening. Whereas when I first heard you Oh, really?

You were like, oh, who's, who is that? Yeah. I felt like that album 

Robots with Rayguns: was huge to me. And that's the thing where perspective comes in, because to me, cult pop, cult pop was actually the commercially, commercially, it was the the worst selling No way. And the it, it did the worst. That's crazy. I, I think a lot of people didn't quite get it.

It was a little bit of a change in direction. Uh, you know, I went a little bit in more of a, even more of a eclectic direction, but creatively, I, I think I had the most fun with that one. But yeah, a lot of people just didn't hear it. I 

Kyle: think it's a very well put together album. 

Robots with Rayguns: Yeah. Uh, I, I think it turned out the best.

And I, and, and it, yeah. I, I think I had the most fun with it just playing [00:52:00] around and not giving a shit and just kind of wanted to make something that kind of took pop music and flipped it on its head and just, just have fun with it. . But yeah, I think at the time, because it came out 2019, it feels like so much longer than that ago.

At the end of, yeah. At the end of 2019. Wow. And there was a bunch of stuff that I wanted to do to promote it. And at the time I just, I had, I was going in between managers and, and then the, the pandemic happened and it just, it was just kind of a mess. So that's also one that I wanna bring back, kind of reintroduce and do something cool with, especially like a collector title.

Yeah. That is so crazy, man. And definitely on 

Kyle: vinyl that, for one, that feels like that was 10 years ago. It does, because the last five years felt like 10 years anyways. Yeah. But, uh, but like without the timeline, I would've thought that was much closer [00:53:00] to 2013 in my mind, 

Robots with Rayguns: but Wow. I think everything before the pandemic feels like a lot longer.

Yeah. 

Kyle: That's like, that's like shocking. I'm gonna have to sit with that tonight. And. Figured out how I feel about that , it feels like so much longer. Cause I feel like when you came outta the scene, I was like, oh, this is sick. I like what this guy's doing. This is very cool. You know, Googling, is this a band?

Is this, is this a producer? Is this, you know, that whole deal. And it felt like, it felt like a blink and cold pop came out. And I remember just loving the artwork and the whole, the whole overall vibe. 

Robots with Rayguns: That album to me was kind of my love letter to pop music. Um, I, I love pop and I'm fascinated by it. Yeah.

Um, but I, I love kind of mixing it with things that it's just not normally. So I had a lot of different influences in there. A lot of industrial dance hall, uh, old school, electro, like a lot of crazy stuff in there. But I, I liked playing around with the kind of pop motifs that you hear a lot [00:54:00] being overplayed and just kind of flipping them.

And putting them in in places that were a little bit obscure and you're not used to hearing that kind of made it really fun for me. What do 

Kyle: you think makes a great song? 

Robots with Rayguns: That's a hard question. I know. Yeah. That, that is a really hard question. I think it depends, it's kind of interesting because a lot of people listen to different things when they hear music and they focus on different things.

So like, my music that I make isn't lyrically based as much. It's more about the vibe and the, and the feeling and, and the sounds rather than lyrics. Cuz I kind of keep it simple in, in that realm. Uh, but I think just, you know, anything that's kind of universal where, you know, people can, can relate to it or, you know, feel moved by it.

Kyle: I tend to love music that a saxophone can fit in, or electric guitar solo can fit in. [00:55:00] You can fit both of those into the song or that genre, whatever you wanna call it. That's, that's where I like to sit, kind of addicted to those two 

Robots with Rayguns: things. , that's a good meter. I, I, yeah, 

Kyle: if you can do those two things, you probably have something that's timeless, that's gonna stick around.

And you see that a lot with, with music that has the retro vibe, of course. Um, so that's, I I listen to a lot of, a lot of pop as well, but the songs getting me really psyched are the ones that have either super good vibes, super good baselines, or, uh, super good are, are PIOs, whether they're violins, horns, or uh, or guitars.

The final question, who would be the one person living in pop music now that you would love to collaborate with? 

Robots with Rayguns: Whether, I've been obsessed with Charlie Xcx for a long time, so that's, she's definitely on the top of my list. I love how she inverts pop [00:56:00] music and, and plays around with it, I think. We would have a lot of of fun with that.

Oh God, there's so many. But yeah, she's, she's a big one that stands out to me. I'm, I'm, I'm trying, I'm, I'm, I'm begging her online and, and yelling and screaming. You 

Kyle: gotta go on those petitions. I do. remember that when that change.org first came out, it's gotta get a certain number before people get behind it.

Well, I think 

Robots with Rayguns: that's, I think that's, uh, officially the stance by the White House, and I think it's been even before Obama. But if you get, I think it, I think it's over half a million signatures, then they have to formally. Respond to it. Like they don't have to necessarily do anything. Right, right. They just have to respond whether or not they're gonna do something about it and 

Kyle: why Well, should we get the White House 

Robots with Rayguns: involved?

I mean, I'm down. I think it's important. That'd be [00:57:00] awesome. 

Kyle: Could you imagine like, well, how did, how did this collaboration happen? Well, the White House come along and then we 

Robots with Rayguns: could make it the new national anthem. That would be 

Kyle: amazing. Man. I really appreciate you coming on here. I know you got a lot going on and we're just stoked to have you here.

Stoked to see what else you put out and appreciate everything you put out so far. Just looking forward to everything you got coming this year, uploaded or mailed to our ears, whichever form it comes. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. All right, and here is a musical performance by Ashley.[00:58:00] 

Ashley: Our song was play. The song on Sunday afternoon.

Even if you think that, I'm not supposed,

even if you think that,

so I.[00:59:00] 

Your heart was[01:00:00] 

you think that I'm not.

If you think that,

so I'm love you,

even if I know that it's,

even if I know that.[01:01:00] 

You

know exactly how.[01:02:00] 

If you think that I'm not,

you sing that right for us. We have something more than, but you know, love the feeling of me with 

Robots with Rayguns: you. 

Kyle: Wow. Ashley, that song is incredible. Love the melody, love the lyrics. It's so good to have you here. Could you just take a second to introduce yourself to everybody? I'm sure everybody else is curious where this lovely voice is coming from.

Yeah. . 

Ashley: Thank you. I'm Ashley. I'm from SSLs, currently living in Dubai. . Yeah, it's my first single in a while. There's one that we don't talk about, but yeah. . [01:03:00] It's one we 

Kyle: don't talk about. 

Ashley: Yeah, it's that one you,

Kyle: I don't even know this story, . 

Ashley: It's okay. You don't have to . 

Kyle: Oh boy. Oh boy. How was, you know the experience recording the song? I know you have a featured musician and vocalist on this track. 

So basically I was back in sea shows. I was like, all right, I need to do this song. And I really, one of my friends there, one of my musician friends, sh thought his voice would go really well with it. And he plays the guitar really nicely. And I was like, we have to do this.

So caught him up and I was like, Hey, are you free? I have a song we should do. And he was like, all right, . So rent the studio. Got it done. And yeah, . That was it. 

Ashley: Yeah. . 

Kyle: It turned out great, by the way. 

Ashley: Thank you. 

Kyle: What I love about a track is when. . You listen to it and it feels so, it's so complete and full. And the sound [01:04:00] is so wide.

Ashley: Yeah. 

Kyle: And then you listen to it a few more times. You're like, oh, there's not really a lot of instruments happening right now. 

Ashley: Yeah. , you know, like you need to, but 

Kyle: you don't realize. Beautiful. It's just like is in, you know, the simplicity and just the beautiful guitar playing.

Ashley: Yeah. Thank you. , 

Kyle: could you tell us a little bit about the purpose behind the lyrics? Yeah, 

so summer weather, 

Ashley: I think it speaks for itself. It's about summer and the, the weather. It's more of like a summer romance kind of song. That's, that's what I was going for. I mean, it's always hot in Dubai, so it's like summer 24 7 sitting in my apartment and I was like, Hmm, summer, let me write something about Summer

So yeah, I just thought Summer romance driving around, you know, in Dubai, there's lots of driving to do so and then just falling into each other. That kind of, yeah, and what I like is like the line, [01:05:00] it says, even if you think I'm not supposed to, it's basically like in a way unrequited. Cuz it's like, I like you, but then it's like I shouldn't be liking you and you don't want me to, but I do or we shouldn't be doing this right now. But we are. It was kind of, yeah. Yes, that's the, 

Kyle: which always makes, makes it more exciting. Could you tell us a little bit about just, you know, where you grew up, where you're from, and lent itself to inspiring you to be. . Yeah. 

Ashley: I think, oh my gosh, my whole childhood, everything even up to now was just always had to do with art. You know, one story actually that my mother told me that I stays with me to this day, it's always plays in my head. She said when I was younger I was drawing all over the floors in her living room and we had family friends over and she got [01:06:00] angry and she was like, why are you riding on the floor?

You know, she's drawing all over the floor. And when she was telling me, stop, you know, no, don't draw on the floor because I shouldn't be drawing on the floor. . One of our friends, our family friends told her, don't tell her to stop. Like don't tell her don't do it cuz then you're gonna stop her. From being creative and being, showing that part of herself.

And he said, instead of that, buy like a huge packet of a four paper and just open the packet and throw a few on the floor with her and tell her to draw. Like go ahead, draw. Because if you just tell her, no, don't do it, she's not gonna, she's gonna think it's wrong, you know, to do art, to be creative. She's just gonna suppress that and it's not gonna develop.

So he was like, just throw papers at her and let her do her thing. And she did that. And honestly, I'm so grateful that she did, [01:07:00] because I wouldn't think or be how I am or who I am today if she, she doesn't listen to that . So I'm really grateful for that. 

Kyle: Oh, that's beautiful. 

Ashley: Yeah. I'm really grateful. 

Kyle: That's such a beautiful story.

Ashley: Yeah. . 

Kyle: Wow. Thank you. Thank you for sharing. That's incredible. 

Ashley: Yeah. Think it's, it's pretty cool. I got, I got out of trouble because of him. Thanks, . 

Kyle: Yes. That guy saved your life. That's very cool. I, you know, I think it's cool that you're taking your time too to, to decide what you want to put out. Yeah. My method way back in the olden days was write as many songs as I feel like and put out as many songs as I feel like, and that doesn't always work out.

But that was pre, you know, social media wasn't really a big thing back then. Yeah, 

Ashley: yeah. I mean, trying, it's just, I don't want it to be like where I release something and then I'm not happy with it. So I think that's why I've just taken so much time and I do still take a lot of time with it. And it's also [01:08:00] like I don't wanna end up releasing song and I'm like, oh, you know what?

I could have added this here. This would've been great if this was here, but if I just rushed to do it and then that's not there and it's not perfect , then I'm not happy with it. 

Kyle: Well, thanks again, Ashley, for being here. Once again, guys, give it up for Ashley. We appreciate you and, can't wait to see what else you're doing with music because you're gonna be a force to be reckoned with.

Just looking forward to everything that you have coming your way. 

Ashley: Thanks. Thanks again. Thanks again for having me. It was great talking to you. 

Kyle: It's been a blast. And again, thank you for being here and take care. 

Ashley: Thank you. You too, 

Kyle: man. What a, what a blast great time with robots, with Ray Guns. Awesome track by Ashley.

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Kyle: I like it.

 That's it guys, for the show. Thanks for being here. Shout out to Fred Anderson. God rest his soul. No, I'm just kidding. Hope he's okay. We're gonna go find this guy and, make sure he's ready to report on the, on the next hot. Have a wonderful night, and we will see you next Thursday.[01:11:00] 

Oh, man. Uh, does 

John Byrnes: that look 

Kyle: like Fred's mic is still on? Yeah. Carl. Carl just said Mike. His mic's still on. Let's, let's see if we are, are we getting anything? We're picking anything up? Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot 

Fred Anderson: shots, everybody.