SPEAKER_01

My name's Juan. And I'm Brendan. And I just can't get the tagline down there.

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That's okay, dude. We're basic so what we're doing for the last seven months is we're watching movies from the past and deciding if it's a nostalgic movie or if it's actually good. So we're putting them to the test. Right. On BJ in the morning presents to nostalgia check.

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Check. Test.

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Nostalgia check test.

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Nostalgia check test exam.

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Quiz.

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Checklist.

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Sure. So today, uh, or I guess today and the next episode, we spun 2010.

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Which is crazy, because that's exactly what you wanted.

SPEAKER_06

It is.

SPEAKER_01

It feels scripted. It was not. I promise you.

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The way you're saying it though. It was not. The way you're saying it though.

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Uh-huh.

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And looking at the camera.

SPEAKER_01

It definitely was not scripted.

SPEAKER_06

It sounds like it was when you say it was a few years ago.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm saying it's not.

SPEAKER_06

But it sounds the way you're saying the inflection, you're inferring that it that we faked it. But it wasn't. But it wasn't. It was just a crazy random happenstance, honestly.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But yeah, 2010, the year we graduated.

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What a wild year.

SPEAKER_06

I don't remember it at all.

SPEAKER_01

I remember that, like we all weren't that close at that time because I changed schools and you kind of just showed up in my graduation. I was like, oh, sick.

SPEAKER_06

I was there for you. Sick. Were you at my graduation? Yeah. Yeah. See, we were there for each other. I went all the way to your stupid high school. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Anyways.

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We watched the social network this week. The social network was a wild ride. Honestly, If you will. I don't think I watched it the year it came out, but within the couple years after it had come out.

SPEAKER_01

So I don't think it did. I don't think I did either. And I don't do do we know when Facebook actually started? Because I didn't get Facebook until 2009, is when I got my first Facebook page.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I I think we were we were on the MySpace trend. We wanted MySpace over Facebook. So we didn't jump on Facebook. But I I mean in the movie it's like 2003, 2004. Yeah. So it was around then when it started coming out, but it's it was in high in uh colleges.

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Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06

So it wasn't free for everyone until probably 2008. Maybe around then, I want to say. I'm guessing. I could look it up on my phone. Sure. But I'm not gonna pick up my phone yet, because that's not this part of the episode. Let's not do that. Right now, we're just going off the vibes of 2010.

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Right.

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Off the riff?

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Off the riff. We're riffin. We're riffin.

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Riffin Raffin.

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We're ho hood rats. Hood rats. I don't I didn't know what to say.

SPEAKER_06

That's okay. That's okay. Um, yeah, so we watched this movie. I watched it last night before before coming over here. Yeah. It was the last thing I watched besides next week's pick. Right. Because I watched that as well. Because we definitely do these episodes weeks apart. Uh I watched it last night. I sat down at my desk like a weirdo, put my headphones in with a cup of water and a snack, and watched it on my computer.

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Uh-huh.

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I was fully invested.

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Yeah.

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The entire time. I didn't want to look at my phone. Uh-huh. I didn't want to do anything else. I was locked in.

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Was it because you were at your desk or was it because you the movie was that good? Yes. Because the movie was really good. Um, I guess I'll share my experience watching this. I tried to watch it on my TV and I couldn't hear a damn thing.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, because he got eye surgery but not ear surgery.

SPEAKER_01

I was extremely confused because I was like piecing their sentences together. Because I was like, I'm just gonna power through it.

SPEAKER_06

And with Sorkin's writing, you really need to pay attention because it's very quick.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So like once we got to like I've seen this movie before, but I didn't remember every detail of this movie. Once we got to the first scene where they're with their lawyers and they're, you know, interrogating each other.

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Um questioning.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, questioning each other. There was no waterboarding going on. Very, very confused. Just because I didn't hear the first like 15 minutes of the dialogue before that. And I was like, I'm just gonna stop the movie and then try something else. So I ended up watching it on my phone uh with my headphones on, and I got the full experience, and it is very different than the movie I was watching an hour before that. Right. So, do you want to get into like the reviews and all that stuff for IMDB and uh Letterbox?

SPEAKER_06

I mean I can. That's usually what we do around this part of the times, right? We're a little ahead of schedule.

SPEAKER_01

Are we? But before you do that, uh maybe we should uh tell the tell the people, tell the listeners, the viewers, uh where they can find us. Oh, so outside of the podcast.

SPEAKER_06

Outside of the podcast. We are on Instagram, owned by Facebook. Uh we are on Facebook. Uh-huh. We have a Facebook page. You can find us on Facebook. I should start posing over there more, huh?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty cool. You could post over there too. I can't. Fuck. Yeah, I'm not a you didn't add me as a I don't know how to do that. As a person, you know what I mean? I'm not the CFO of Facebook. I don't know how to do that.

SPEAKER_06

I don't want to change my relationship status. Uh yeah, Instagram, Facebook, both owned by Meta, which is Facebook, Zuckerberg. Uh, we're on TikTok sometimes. We're on YouTube all the time. You can watch all of our videos over there on the YouTube, which is pretty awesome. And then we're on Apple and Spotify.

SPEAKER_01

Hell yeah. And if you're listening to us on Apple or Spotify, go ahead and give us a five-star review.

SPEAKER_06

Or we're gonna put the the back into Facebook.

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Yeah.

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We have the power, the authority to do so.

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Yeah, we'll do that. We will. We're gonna call Andrew Garfield himself. We have him force him to put the the back. Yeah. Because he's still a co-founder of Facebook. It says on the masthead. Yeah. I think.

SPEAKER_06

What's a masthead? I don't know. The movie never explains. They just expect that you know these things. Yeah. So let's get into this movie then. We're about to do that. All the the links to our socials are down below in the comment or in the description of the each and every episode. You're able to find all that stuff down there. You can also send us uh some fan mail. It's also a link down below. You can send an anonymous text or a voicemail if you want to be featured on the show. Or just say what's up. The social network came out in 2010, according to IMDB. It's PG 13, two hours long. Pretty good two hours. Yeah. It flew by. Tagline for the movie: a Harvard student, Mark Zuckerberg, creates the social networking site that would become known as Facebook, and he is sued by the twins who claimed he stole their idea and by the co-founder who was later squeezed out of the business. That's the tagline. Make sense? Yeah. We're all caught up based on true events, based on a book inspired by true events, the real things. Some of it's probably fake. Yeah. We don't know everything that happened. This is just based on the book of the retelling of all the stuff that happened, right? 7.8 on IMDB with a 95 meta score out of a hundred. Wow. Top cast, Jesse Eisenberg, Andrew Garfield, Justin Timberlake, Rooney Mara, Dustin Fitzsimmons, Joseph Mazzello, and Brian Barter. Directed by what? What's up?

SPEAKER_01

Don't forget Brenda's song.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, yeah, Brenda's song makes an appearance. She's psycho. Yeah, crazy. She does it really well. Directed by David Venture. You might know David Venture from other movies like Seven, Zodiac, Gone Girl. Some some bangers there. Mm-hmm. Written by Aaron Sorkin. Well, what would you know Aaron Sorkin from? That we've maybe reviewed on the on the show. Uh cannot recall. A few good men. Oh, nice. Uh, he also wrote The West Wing and Molly's Game, Steve Jobs, Moneyball, things like that.

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06

7.8, as I said, user reviews. So let's get into a couple of these. You ready? Let's start out with a 7 out of 10. This is from December 4th, 2010.

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Okay.

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An acceptable form of horror. Maybe I'm too old. Maybe I'm not. Maybe I am. I am. I saw this. I saw this characters as aliens of sorts. I know they represent today's landscape. The film as a film is one of the best of David Fenture, but the universe it explores gave me chills. A world approaching its end fast. The youth of the characters made it even more sinister. I couldn't detect their soul or any evidence of its existence. In a way, they represent the worst of the previous generations, Roman Emperors or Wall Street. Prophet is the name of the game, and the ideas came out of boredom and longings to get laid. Love and friendship, loyalty, and her honor are obsolete as good manners. Jesse Eisenberg is chillingly perfect as the humanoid that started it all. Justin Timberlake keeps surprising me. Good, very good, and Andrew Garfield, the most recognizable of the characters, is a victim of sorts, and he'll be destroyed no matter how much money he gets. How I wish this was merely a science fiction film.

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Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

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10 out of 10. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah? A timeless story of friendship, loyalty, greed, and betrayal. This one's from September 28th, 2010. I just want to get this out there right away and put the cards on the table, so to speak. When I first heard about it, I had very little faith in this project. I was stupefied, confused by the thought of what attracted all this talent to the seemingly trivial story of being with to begin with. Why would David Fincher and Aaron Sorkin possibly be interested in the story of the founding of Facebook? Surely they could have found something more important, more meaningful, and apply their efforts to it. After seeing the film though, I realized that, of course, Fincher and Sorkin knew what they were doing all along, and furthermore, that labeling this as the Facebook movie is really an insult to what Sorkin and Fincher were trying to do and have succeeded to do in achieving with this film.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it's not really a movie about Facebook.

SPEAKER_06

No, just it's about the people who made Facebook.

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How Mark Zuckerberg screwed over his best friend. Which if all of the events in this movie are true, it's fucked up.

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It is. It is really fucked up.

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It is really fucked up.

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Continue. Let's do I'm trying to find a one out of ten. Oh. From October 30th, 2010. What did this guy do for humanity? The first 15 minutes gives you a headache. That was the first 15 minutes you struggled with.

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Yeah.

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Typical Aaron Sorgin dialogues delivered at 100 words per second, and not even the actors seem to understand them. The rest of this movie is half the rise and not yet the fall of the Facebook founder, and the other half is how people fight over money. Guess who comes out as the smart guy giving the intelligent repartees during these trials? Since Fincher is used to making films with violence and tension, he fills the void with heart thumping music and scenes like half-naked girls dancing to rap songs, sniffing coke from a young Facebook intern's belly. Of the same generation, Fincher would ever equal in quality and subtlety with Michael Mann or Paul Thomas Anderson. What did the Facebook guy do for humanity? Why is he a hero? Just because he's worth millions? Billions. Billions with a B. Um there's also a two out of ten, and it just says, what a trash film. If you got brains, simply avoid it. But there's some heat over there.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of the first 15 minutes of the movie, I think this movie definitely would have been a lot better if the focus was the lawsuit, which it kind of was, but it kind of wasn't.

SPEAKER_06

They used they used the lawsuit um to frame the story. What was going on. So they're telling the story in the the the boardrooms, the with the the lawyers and everything, and we're saying the flashbacks to those stories.

SPEAKER_01

Right. They should have opened the movie with a courtroom. Or not a courtroom, but with a with that. Yeah. They should have had the lawsuits be the opening rather than him being at the bar with his ex-girlfriend. I think his dynamic with the ex-girlfriend is a bit obsessive. Yeah, not ne not necessary to the story. I mean, like, sure he got broken up, but he got drunk and he made a a website, you know, in uh not defiance, but uh a re act of revenge. Yeah, revenge, I guess, you know. It's like it it that doesn't matter to me.

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I think it it's probably embellished a lot for this movie. It's probably not how it really happened, like with the girlfriend. But I do think you can look back at the blog posts that he is making during that that scene, and those are things that he said and he was doing. So I don't think anyone really knows what happened, and I'm gonna assume that if they got stories from what's her name, Rachel. If they got the story from her, it's her side of the story. So of course it's gonna be. I'm trying, I'm not trying to defend Mark fucking Zuckerberg here. Yeah, but it could be a little bit Did you see his blog name?

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Um, it was like Zuck Zuck on it.

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Zuck on it, yeah. I think that's real. That's real shit, you know? Uh let's head over to Letterboxd, though. Are you ready for this? Letterbox, social network, sitting at a 3.9 out of five. Pretty good. Pretty good. I have a five-star here. I've always been a slut for good dialogue and a general whip smart script. For this reason, this movie is my kink. Nice. Yeah, that's from Kit Laser.

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Thanks for that one.

SPEAKER_06

Thanks for that. It's uh not a friend of the show, but like if he wants to be friends of the show, tell us all your kinks. I'm gonna just clip that and send it to him. Hey Kit Laser, tell us all the rest of your kinks. Yeah. Uh five stars, Jesse Eisenberg's super punchable face really elevates the whole experience. Yes. Yes. I fucking just based on this movie alone, I'm like, fuck Mark Zuckerberg.

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Yeah.

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And that's before in 2010, we were 18.

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Yeah.

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Right. Maybe 19 when we watched this movie. We didn't know all the shit that Zuckerberg was up to. Right. We didn't understand all the stuff and the horrible shit that's going on. And plus, 2011, like 2008 to 2012, Facebook was prime Facebook. Right. And then it became what it is today, and it's scary today. I get why someone said it feels like a horror movie almost, because it feels like you can watch this movie and go, man, people hated him then. Yeah. And look at him now.

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Right.

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Fuck. Mark Mark Zuckerberg. Uh he's a full robot, full android. Now he is. Yeah. He's just not hiding it anymore. Yeah. But the future is now.

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He reminds me of Data. Data from Star Trek. Worse. He's an Android. Worse.

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Probably. Probably. Uh four and a half stars. Starting to think it should be socially acceptable to bully nerds again. Five stars. Why did I have this listed at as four stars when Andrew Garfield says the words, fuck you, flip-flops alone? That makes it a five-star movie. Rooney Mara absent-mindedly adding, good luck with your video game after verbally ripping his ass to shreds in front of an entire restaurant is easily one of the best lines of dialogue in the last deck last decade of cinema.

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Yeah, when she said that I was like, ooh, get it.

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Get it. Ouch. Five stars. Me. I should get some sleep. I have a lot of work to do in the morning. My brain. Hey, remember when our Eduardo's shares were diluted down to 0.03%?

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Wild.

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And last one I got, no stars, it's just alike, so they just wanted to get their feelings out there. Imagine breaking a guy's heart so hard he invents Facebook.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So here's my question to you. And we're just gonna do this before we break down the movie, but let's say Zuckerberg stayed loyal to Eduardo. To Eduardo. She should have. And Zuckerberg told Justin Timberlake's character, I can't remember his name. Sean. Sean Parker. Sean Parker. To fuck off. Would it have been the same success? I don't know. It's hard to say, right? Because in the movies depicted as Sean Parker did a lot for Mark Zuckerberg, but it doesn't, they don't really show us what he did to make Facebook that successful.

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Yeah, I think he got him he got him meetings with angel investors, but he also pulled that stunt where he sent Mark just to go talk shit to a guy that talked shit to Sean.

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Yeah.

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And I'm like, that alone is a red flag.

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Yeah.

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Like just because this guy's like bringing girls to your house and like providing drugs for alcohol for everyone, doesn't mean he's your friend. Yeah. And I I still don't think that. And again, this is based on the movie alone. I can't speak for whatever really happened. That's the last time I should say it. Uh in the movie, I don't think he ever had Mark's best interest in mind. He was just trying to make money.

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Yeah.

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He was using Mark to make money. And you can see in later scenes, like when they do dilute Eduardo's shares and he goes to punch him and he flinches hard. He's a fucking pussy.

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Yeah.

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And then when he calls him later after he gets busted, spoilers, um, he gets busted for drugs with someone under the age of 21. Yeah. And he's crying. Like he's whining on the phone, like, don't tell the don't tell everyone this happened. I don't want to lose my job. Fucking bitch.

SPEAKER_01

But Mark Zuckerberg, according to the movie, uh is like, I'll take care of this. And even during the lawsuit, and who knows what happened to him, really, I'm assuming jail or prison or something. Maybe. But he's a millionaire. He's still a six per six percent shareholder of Facebook. Still. At the time of the map. What? Yep. So that's just like I I desperately wanted him to stick with Eduardo. However, that would have worked, he had good ideas, also, but Eduardo wasn't as invested as Sean was as far as being present. And I think that's what Mark Zuckerberg needed.

SPEAKER_06

Right. He needed someone to be there for him to do all the stuff that he couldn't do, like because so awkward. Yeah. But I think the problem is that as many times as Mark Zuckerberg in the movie says it's not about the money, it was about the money.

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Yeah.

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Because as soon as he's starting in the Taste for Fame, like when they hooked up with Brenda Song and her friend in the bathroom, not Brenda Song, her character she's playing. Right. She's happily married to Macaulay Colkin. Of course. Friend of the show.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Friend of the show.

SPEAKER_06

I wish, dude. I wish I was butts with Macaulay Colkin. Uh, but it was about the money when it came down to it. And I think having all that shit shoved in his face blinded him completely. And you can still see that that is a problem now because guess what? He's a billionaire. He don't he's not giving a fuck about anybody else but himself, allegedly, according to the movie. Uh to 2026. And we'll see it in the in the sequel to the movie. Yeah. We're gonna see more of what Zuckerberg's been up to. Yeah. But my question is that because Eduardo was doing it the best way that he could as a college student, why did he get shit for that? You know what I mean? He was they were college kids. He was doing it the way that they probably taught him to do it in college. He was starting small so they could work their way up. But then Sean Parker comes in and is like, I already fucked everything over for the music industry, and now everyone knows my fucking name, and he can just do whatever he wants because he got away with it, and Metallica fucking hates that guy. Yeah. Yeah. So um oh, but my question is in the movie, we feel for Eduardo 100%. If he was played by another actor though, do you think you'd feel differently? If he was just if it was just the guy, I don't know, I've never I've never seen the guy.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But I'm like, is it Andrew Garfield's performance that makes us feel that way?

SPEAKER_01

I think I would I think I would still I think I would still feel bad. But Andrew Garfield's performance is is A1. And he's a baby in this movie, you know. Yeah, like he's young, he does great. Um it definitely adds to it. But I think the story in itself, I think I would be more understanding to the fact that he wasn't present or he was doing his own thing or trying to get into his uh fraternity or yeah, he was a college kid. He was trying to do other things, he was trying to do it the right way. Spent most of his time in New York while Mark was in California. And I think I would have seen that more but at the same time I do feel bad for that man either way.

SPEAKER_06

Um especially since it's apparent in the movie that he was there. They couldn't have done that. Not only that is with the without the algorithm that he had.

SPEAKER_01

He yeah, he used his algorithm. His algorithm, he's also a very smart programmer or engineer. Did he do any of the programming for Facebook? No, but he gave Mark Zuckerberg like the foundation to what he needed.

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And the initial capital.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_06

We've said a lot about the movie already. We haven't even started talking about the details, so why don't we get through what happened in the state?

SPEAKER_01

The details was like three weeks in.

SPEAKER_06

That joke's gonna get old. Uh so uh I do have some things that um discussion.

SPEAKER_01

If we talked to most talked about most of the movie, we could probably like blow right through this.

SPEAKER_06

Let's go through it then. Let's start this out. So um Erica is her name, not Rachel. The girlfriend.

SPEAKER_01

I thought I was thinking Ashley when you said Rachel, but I was like, I'm a dumbass, dude.

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It's in my nose. Why didn't I just look down? Because you weren't ready to look at your phone yet. I was trying not to. I was trying not to. I did go through IMDB and letterbox. Right. So Mark Zuckerberg gets dumped by Erica Albright after a harsh conversation. He is a piece of shit in this in this moment, but also is is he a bad guy or is he just saying the wrong things?

SPEAKER_01

He has zero skill with people. He doesn't show remorse, he doesn't show happiness, he doesn't show any of that. He's just straight to the point, robotic.

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And the way the things that he says to her are just so like I wanted to reach through the screen and just slap, like, shut up, dude, stop talking. Cause he just and he puts both of his flip-flop fucking feet in his mouth every time he talks.

SPEAKER_01

But you know, I've seen I've seen extremely smart people be that way. Yeah. You know, so we're I'm not saying that he I mean he's obviously a a genius, right? He's extremely smart. People who are extremely smart in the movie. In the movie, uh don't often think they think with logic, they don't think with emotion. Right.

SPEAKER_06

Which it's clear in this movie. It's very clear.

SPEAKER_01

You don't need to study because you go to uh shitty school B U. Yeah. What?

SPEAKER_06

You don't say that shit. What? That's like me telling Juan he went to a dumb high school just because I was mad, he went to a different high school. Yeah, even though that high school helped me graduate. Hey, hey, hey, hey, proud of you. Proud of you. Thanks, buddy. I did too. What's up? I graduated too. Oh, right. Yeah, right, right, right. I didn't help you graduate.

SPEAKER_01

But I had nine credits when I was a junior, so you got away from all your friends and like actually did the school work.

SPEAKER_06

Had to. Yeah, there was nothing else to do. Had to. So after he gets dumped, he's angry. So he creates Face Smash.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06

Which is him stealing the idea of hot or not. You remember that website?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

So he does steals that idea, but he takes all people's photos from their college dorm like books. Yeah. So online books. What's the word I'm looking for? Database. Right. So he's making everyone pick between girls that they go to school with. And the website completely knocks out Harvard's Harvard's network and gets him noticed. So that's when he starts getting noticed for the shit he's doing. He had what 22,000 downloads at 2 in the morning or site 200.

SPEAKER_01

220,000. 200,000? 220,000. In the 200,000. Whatever. Between 2 and 4 a.m. Or maybe it was 20. Who cares? It was a lot in 2003. It crashed the server, alright? It crashed Harvard server.

SPEAKER_06

So that's kind of where we get like the inkling of maybe Mark just takes ideas and makes them better.

SPEAKER_05

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06

And enter the Winklevoss twins. Played by Army Hammer.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

He plays both of them. Uh-huh. They found a guy that was the same height and build as him and then just face swapped him.

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06

Um, I didn't know when I first watched this movie that that was one guy.

SPEAKER_01

No. I thought it was two dudes. I didn't um I mean I didn't really care to notice this time around. Yeah, there's some parts. I just thought there were two dudes.

SPEAKER_06

There's some parts though, because I've watched like breakdowns of this movie uh from like Corridor and shit. Yeah. There's some parts where the CG on their faces is really bad.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, like the face swaps, just it shows its age in 2010, you know what I mean? Uh, but we also have so we have the Winkelvoss twins and then uh Diviya Narenda, Narendra, who they came up with the idea of uh Harvard Connection, which is basically a Facebook because Facebook things were already a thing for colleges, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

So they wanted to build Harvard Connection, which was ultimately a dating site, is what they wanted to make. And Mark agrees to to help them with this, but he realizes the potential in their idea could be so much greater, and he starts secretly working on his own idea. And leaving them hanging for weeks. He's just dodging them. It's like it's like when you broke up with a girl and she keeps texting you, and you're just like, I'm kind of busy today. Oh no, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I don't understand. Why did he say, I'm in, let's do it, and then work on his own idea, which would I feel like would be less of a consequence or less of like less of a lawsuit, anyways. Right. If he was like, nah, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06

I don't think when he agreed that he knew he was gonna come up with something better. Yeah. I think it happened after he agreed. But that's when he brings in Eduardo Savron. So they try to launch their version of the Harvard Connection called The Facebook. Eduardo provides the initial funding for Mark while he develops the site, and it quickly becomes a huge hit around Harvard. So it's only exclusive to Harvard. And during this time is when Eduardo starts getting punched by the Phoenix. So he's being brought into this finals club, right? I didn't go to Harvard, I don't fucking know what it means. But I I want to point out there's a scene where he brings uh Eduardo outside and it's freezing cold, and you know the breath coming out where you can see it, that's all fake. Really? All the all the fog that comes out of them when they're talking, fake. It's CG.

SPEAKER_03

Really?

SPEAKER_06

And I could fucking tell this time, and it's like, damn it, someone broke the illusion for me, and I could see that it was busted. Uh, but the site expands to other Ivy League schools and eventually colleges across the country, and it's attracting rapid user growth, so it's going all over the place, and this is when the twins start freaking the fuck out. So their whole posse is starting to get really pissed off about face the Facebook. It's still the Facebook at this time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Because they're like, he's that little punk stole our idea, and they're all getting mad. Also, was the guy who played um, was the guy who played Diviya Narendra the guy from the internship?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, same guy.

SPEAKER_06

The same fucking guy? Yeah. Internship guy? Same guy? Same guy?

SPEAKER_01

Same character almost.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, just one with another.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe the social network, maybe they was it was the same guy. Maybe the same character. Maybe he's like, you know put an accent on it. He's in college and then he goes to work for Google and then he goes and bullies some 40 old men. But what's with the accent? Uh he did uh some time abroad. I know it's a fake accent. Right.

SPEAKER_06

They we do that whole thing with Josh Gadd at the end of the interview.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, your accent is fake.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

God, I love that movie.

SPEAKER_01

Such a good movie.

SPEAKER_06

So bad in the best way.

SPEAKER_01

When did that movie come out? Maybe we should have watched it this year.

SPEAKER_06

I don't think it came out in 2010.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think so either.

SPEAKER_06

So they start moving all across the country, and Mark goes to visit colleges out in California while Eduardo goes off to New York. And that's where Sean Parker gets involved. So A, we're introduced to Sean Parker, played by Justin Timberlake. Uh, and he is sleeping with a college kid. I don't think I don't know how old he is, but I feel like he's older than a college kid. And who's that college girl? It's Dakota Johnson. Dang. Yeah. Let's give it up for Dakota Johnson. She's great. She's great in these little roles, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Great. Always. Always. Except for Madam Webb, but that's not her fault.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, if there was one person to make me watch that movie, it's her.

SPEAKER_01

For sure. And Sydney Sweeney. Sydney Sweeney. And uh Isabella Marsaid.

SPEAKER_06

That's mine for me. Let's give it up. Let's give it up. For all stop. That's all Madame Webb deserved. So Sean Parker, who is the founder of Napster, pissed off the entire music industry. I love that they got Justin Timberlake to play this guy. Because Justin Timberlake does music. Does music. So I think it's kind of perfect. He I forget how well he can act.

SPEAKER_01

Justin Timberlake has always been so good.

SPEAKER_06

But I forget. Yeah. Because he does some stupid shit in real life. Yeah. And you heard about his uh DUI arrest and how he's like, Do you know who I am? Dummy. Right. Stupid. Right. In this movie, dummy. Stupid. Kind of like him. Also fucking hate him. Like he is a piece of shit this entire movie.

SPEAKER_01

I really don't like him, no.

SPEAKER_06

Uh so but he meets up with Mark Zuckerberg and Eduardo, and they start pitching ideas and doing all this shit.

SPEAKER_01

He doesn't give really give a shit about anything they have to say.

SPEAKER_06

No. Sean?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. And Eduardo has no fucking problem telling Sean he has no fucking idea or he has no interest in what he's saying. Uh-huh. I love, I love how I love Braddy Andrew Garfield in this scene. Yeah. And he's just like, you? You're cool? Like they start pitching ideas back and forth, and then he gives them the idea, Mark specifically, to drop the the just Facebook. Uh-huh. Blows Mark's fucking mind. And now Mark is in love with this dude.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

In the movie. Allegedly. In the movie. Allegedly. Just in the movie.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not even sure if he's capable of love of love, to be honest.

SPEAKER_06

He loves money. Yeah. And Facebook. Because now it's Facebook and not the Facebook. But this is about when Eduardo and Mark's friendship start slowly unraveling. You can see aspects of it pretty early on. Eduardo wants stability and advertising revenue while Mark follows whatever the fuck Sean tells him to do and expands rapidly. And then the Winkelvoss twins accuse Mark officially of stealing their idea and begin legal action, claiming he intentionally delayed their product while building Facebook.

SPEAKER_01

Which he did.

SPEAKER_06

Eduardo discovers how much Sean has been involved in this when he shows up randomly after dropping his internship over the summer and goes out to California and Sean is in the house. And this is really when I think their friendship completely unravels. Because Mark says the stupidest shit to Eduardo, like, I don't want you to get left behind. You're way out there, you're not out here seeing where everything is, and it fucks up their whole thing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And you know what? Like, in the movie, because I don't know what happened in real life. We don't know what happened in real life. He really isn't that present. He's not. And if it were anybody, any other business partner, that, or any other business, that person probably would have been dropped. Yeah. Because as far as we've seen, he hasn't made any forward movement for the for the business side of the company.

SPEAKER_06

Except for the initial investments and the bank account with $18,000 in it to pay for all the stuff in California. Right. So without Eduardo, Mark doesn't go to California.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. And but that's not how in the movie Mark sees it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

He doesn't see it as I wouldn't be here without Eduardo. He sees that Eduardo's not standing next to me right here, right now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

So he because he's very much in the moment. He's only making decisions right then and there. He's not thinking about the past or future. I mean, he's thinking about the future, but only when it comes to Facebook.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Because during all this time, Sean is setting up all these meetings for Mark because everyone wants Facebook.

SPEAKER_01

But then it water uh, you know, set up a meet a meeting for ad revenue, and he Mark blew it on.

SPEAKER_06

Uh he was, you know what he was doing? The sound?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_06

The Uh-huh. It was the notification sound on Facebook. That's what he was. That's the sound he's trying to make. Oh. He's coming up with that notification sound. You you you hear it now, right?

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06

That's what that's where his brain is. It's not the future of anything that is gonna make Facebook better. It is the notification sound because that's something he needs right then. Right then.

SPEAKER_01

Interesting. Right? I didn't know that. I didn't put that together.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, dude. He's sitting there making the sound, trying to come up with a Facebook notification sound.

SPEAKER_01

Crazy.

SPEAKER_06

So during all this, Eduardo goes back home, deals with this crazy girlfriend played by Brenda Song. She is psychotic, and they're yelling on the phone, or he's talking on the phone with Mark because he closed the account. He froze out the account. But then Mark drops the we got the big investment, $500,000, half a million dollars.

SPEAKER_01

This is after Eduardo freezes the funds, right? Because he's trying to get it's the same time, same moment, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Because he's trying to get Mark's attention and it fucking worked. But then Mark forgets that they're mad at each other because they got the the half a million dollar investment. And that's when they tell him to come back for the big party they're gonna throw for the million subscribers to the Facebook. Yeah. After Eduardo has signed all these papers saying that he owns 30% or 32%. Yeah, somewhere around there, right? It came up a little bit. Fuckhead Sean Parker owns six percent. Uh the other guy played by Tim from Jurassic Park owns six percent or something like that, too, right? I don't remember his numbers specifically.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06

But when he comes out for the party, the line where he says, I didn't know whether to dress for the party or for a business meeting, so I dress for both. I'm like, oh no. He's walking in, he's gonna, he's done. He's done. And he walks in and everyone's chilling, everyone's partying, everyone's celebrating, and he gets immediately pulled into the meeting room with that same fucking lawyer who knew he was screwing him over, and you can see it on that lawyer's face too. When he hands him the stuff, he won't make eye contact with him. Yeah, we find out that Eduardo's shares have been diluted to 0.03%. Mark's shares were diluted, but he's still primary owner. Owner. Uh-huh. Sean's shares, not touched. The other dude, can't remember his name right now, Tim, Jurassic Park Tim. Uh-huh. His part his shares were not touched. Just Eduardo's. Rough. And when he confronts Mark and slams that fucking laptop down and breaks it, that is fucking acting, man.

SPEAKER_01

So that scene, although I didn't know what was going on at the time, was the first scene I've ever seen of this movie.

SPEAKER_06

Do you know why? Why? Do you rem you don't remember this? But we were living together when I was at community college, and I was sh in a screen acting class, and someone picked in that class to recreate this scene. And that was that scene, like re doing that scene in the class, and that's what sparked me to watch the movie. So I'm wondering if because I was watching it at the time, let me hit my mic into my freaking mouth when I say I was watching that scene trying to understand it. Maybe that's why you saw this scene. Maybe. Because again, we were living together.

SPEAKER_01

I just remember this was the first scene I ever saw, and I was like, hmm. Kind of want to watch that movie.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. This scene is amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

His his everything about him from the the spit that comes out of his mouth, and it sounds gross, but it's just sitting on his fucking chin when he's screaming and yelling at Mark. You're like, this is passion. Like he is so upset and so completely destroyed by this decision.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and this is directly before Spider-Man. So imagine an unknown actor at the time.

SPEAKER_06

Compared to Isenberg and fucking Timberlake.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

You know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He was What a performance from that guy, man.

SPEAKER_06

He deserved everything he got, man. Spider-Man, Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Spider-Man again. Spider-Man again.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_06

Everything else. I feel I feel like we haven't seen a lot of Andrew Garfield movies.

SPEAKER_01

He was in the show, this Hulu show that I really liked. Hulu? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Which one?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if you want me to say.

SPEAKER_06

You can say.

SPEAKER_01

Under the Banner of Heaven.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, I know of that show. Yeah, I never watched it though. I wanted to because it's him. It's him, yeah. He's so good.

SPEAKER_01

He does really good.

SPEAKER_06

Let's get back to what happened to the movie. So the the film overall has been framed through two lawsuits going on. One between Eduardo and Mark, and one between the Winklevosses and Mark.

SPEAKER_01

Which at the end they didn't, at the end of the movie, they didn't specify what his settlement was. But they've already said in the middle of the movie that he was being sued for $600 million from Eduardo. Then Rashida Jones's character.

SPEAKER_06

She's um let's give it up for Rashida Jones. But also I don't like her character at all. I don't think she felt it. Very she didn't look like she knew how to walk in that suit.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But I love when she you want you can you can have some salad. Yeah. Like, yeah, thanks, dude.

SPEAKER_01

She seems like the new person, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, she said she's only been working there for a handful of months.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So so yeah. Roshida Jones's character told Mark Zuckerberg that you're probably gonna have to pay a little bit more on the Settlement, which means he's going to be paying 600 million plus whatever is extra. Yeah. So 600 million minimum.

SPEAKER_06

We could probably Google it and find out. We could. If it's been disclosed. You know what I mean? Right. And I want to point out that there is a video camera in all of these rooms, and I'm wondering if any of that footage has ever been seen by people. I doubt it because of the situation and the Well, especially with how rich Mark Zuckerberg is.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, right. He could have forced them to not disclose that information.

SPEAKER_06

And especially since the Winkelvoss twins had to sign an NDA after their Andwarde. Um did he have to?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

So when the cases are settled, we're skipping to the to this part. After Sean Parker gets arrested for having drugs and alcohol at a college party with someone under the age of 21. So yeah, Edward receives a significant settlement, as we just said, and is recognized as a founder, a co-founder of Facebook. And the Winkelvoss twins also reach a settlement, and they have to sign NDAs so they can no longer talk about their involvement with Mark Zuckerberg or how he stole their idea or anything like that. The final scene of the movie, Mark is sitting alone, looking at the Facebook profile of Erica Albright, and sends her a friend request like a fucking creep in the movie. Uh constantly re refreshing the page and highlighting uh that despite creating the world's largest social network, he is still isolated as hell.

SPEAKER_01

He did this to himself. Oh, he did, definitely. He fucked over the only friend he had. The other friend that he thought he had was a creep and a fucking ass.

SPEAKER_06

Took advantage of him.

SPEAKER_01

Probably in jail now.

SPEAKER_06

Probably.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Um his other friends, who knows what happened, but treated them like shit, literally forcing them to work like 30 plus hours straight coding on the grid or on the line or or wired in. Whatever the fuck they were saying. Yeah. Dude, these guys are literally like he's literally a robot. He is incapable of showing or feeling emotion. And you can see it too. You can see it, like he knows he's losing this lawsuit, and he still is just it's just what it is.

SPEAKER_06

It is what it is. What the line where he says the the lawyer asks, Do you have my do I have your attention? And he says, You have the bare minimum of attention. The rest of my attention is back at Facebook where we're doing things you could never imagine. Yeah. And you're like, that makes sense. Uh I was looking it up. Uh Parker was forced to step down as Facebook's president in 2005, following an arrest for cocaine. Uh, although he continued to meet with Zuckerberg in the years following his reg resignation, his influence faded on the company's daily operations. And in 2017, Parker publicly criticized Facebook. He described how the platform intentionally exploited human psychological vulnerabilities through social validation feedback loops, admitting that he the founders understood this consciously but built it anyway. So it does not sound like they're friends anymore. The social network movie.

SPEAKER_01

How do you feel about it? I feel pretty good. I liked it a lot. I mean, I was pretty locked in. Yeah. And you know, I I as you know, I fall asleep very easily with movies, even movies I that I want to watch. And a lot of times I find myself having to rewind and watch that scene over again. Hey, guess what? I didn't fall asleep. Yeah, look at you. I didn't fall asleep, and I was laying in bed while watching it. Whoa. And I didn't fall asleep. That means I kept doing paces. Um I think that the pacing in this movie is is incredible. I I think it's the perfect balance between the lawsuit scenes and the flashback scenes. I do wish that they, instead of opening with the breakup, that they would have opened with the lawsuit. Because then we know what we're getting into. And it's a little less confusing when they get to the law, the first lawsuit scene. You know what I mean? It does kind of throw you off a little bit. You know what I mean? I liked it. I mean, how how how are you feeling about it? I'm feeling pretty good.

SPEAKER_06

I've been wanting to watch this movie again and I I held off because I wanted to wait for us to watch it for the podcast because I haven't seen it in a few years. I don't know what inspired me to want to watch this. It might have been the trailer dropping for the sequel, The Social Reckoning.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Which I am excited for. I'll probably see it. I don't know if I'll see it in theater.

SPEAKER_01

Who's that girl? Which girl? There's a girl on like the poster for it.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know. I'd have to look it up, but I'm gonna talk about this movie right now. Yeah, sure. Sure. I had a really good time watching this movie. I think it's I like Jesse Eisenberg. I th I don't know why so many people don't like him. I do feel like he does kind of play the same person in every movie. Like you think Zombieland and Adventureland, what other movies has he done with the word land in it? Uh, but he he kind of just plays this dorky guy. I feel like he cranked it up in this movie where he's robotic in a sense, like you had mentioned, which perfectly fits Mark Zuckerberg's men like being. Yeah, if you could call him a being. Uh but he he fits so well into this spot that I do hate him. Yeah, and he does a great job in making me hate him. Same with Sean Parker, but I think I hate Sean Parker more in the movie uh because Justin Timberlake plays him so well, and he doesn't even have that much screen time if you think about it. I thought he was in the when he shows up, it the movie's like halfway done. Yeah, and then next thing you know, he's out of the movie. He's like he has like maybe maybe 10 minutes of screen time. Yeah, and he eats those scenes though. He's such a prick for the entire time. When you're just sitting there watching Eduardo yell at Mark with his fucking coffee cup, he's just sitting there lounging against the desk. I'm like, fuck this guy, and then he gives him the the fucking check. The $20,000 check, $19,000 check. Yeah, and you're like, this guy's thinks he's so tough, and then Eduardo straight up says, You make me look so tough. Yeah, you're like, get it, Garfield. But I I want to point out that Andrew Garfield is like a highlight of this movie. I think he plays the college age really well in this, where you look at him and he looks young, but he's he's not a kid. He is kind of bright-eyed, really.

SPEAKER_01

He also made that $300,000 from his last programming job, I guess. And he's a little more mature in the business side. As far as like he's being responsible with his money, he's dressing nicely, you know what I mean? He probably eats well too, you know, like not college food.

SPEAKER_06

Um, yeah, he does better for himself than Mark. And Andrew Garfield fits that that role so well where it's like the in-between of being a punk ass kid and like a grown-up, you know?

SPEAKER_05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06

And I don't think I could recast that role. I couldn't think of anyone that would do better than him in this role, right? Like off the top of my head, without sitting down with a list of fucking actors in 2010, you know. I also want to point out that I think the movie was shot beautifully. Every shot feels like it's for a purpose. There's some differences throughout, like how the the shooting and the editing goes on between the Mark Zuckerberg stuff. It's kind of dark, it's always like in bar kind of lighting. When they're in their their office space, like in the dorm rooms or whatever, it's a little more bright, like fluorescent-y kind of lighting. And then you get to the offices and you can tell that everything is office space, right? And the boardroom scenes are shot so well that there's always some movement going on to keep you like interested in what's going on. When you watch some people in the background of the boardroom or the the scenes inside like the room where they're with all the lawyers and everything, what the fuck is that called? I can't think? I guess, right? But like when I say conference room, I'm like, I don't want anyone to get confused, like Facebook conference room, right? But when they're in the room with all the lawyers and you can just see like Eduardo gets up and stands in the corner, and the blocking of how people aren't really making eye contact and people are moving in certain ways, everything is for a purpose and it doesn't distract you, but then you go, wait, that guy, why did he get up? Why is Eduardo turned away? And it's because he doesn't want to fucking look at Mark Zuckerberg when he says these things. And I think the writing, yeah, Sorgin gets like a weird rap for how he writes, but I think the writing is top-notch. Like when you think of this movie compared to the last Sorkin movie we watched, which was A Few Good Men, the writing is so good in this, and it is so excellently paced. They say they do say a hundred words a second sometimes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

When you sit there and you're watching, especially like I had headphones in, no, nothing was distracting me. I got every single word, and they don't make you feel dumb for not knowing what they're talking about because they subtly like show you what they're talking about, and I think that's really smart. I'm going on a lot with this movie, but I I want to point out one more thing with the with that shoe, like cinematography-wise. When the Winklevoss twins are doing their their race, and it's in England, and it switches to those like really wide shots where it's all blurry on the edges, makes everything look miniature. It is so fucking beautiful. Like anytime they're rowing, it is beautifully shot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It I can't tell if this movie was shot on film or digital, but it feels like it was shot on film, and it makes you it. I don't know, film brings you back into the movies way more than digital sometimes, especially a movie like this with its low lighting. I think it works really well. I do have a review from a listener of the show. Okay. Before we give our final scores. I'm gonna give his final score when I get to the end of the review, and then we'll give our scores. So this one, again, is from Mike out in New York.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06

When the social network first came out, I heard what the movie was about, and to be honest, it did not interest me. In the movie, the relationship that Mark had graded on me. I didn't believe that that was his girlfriend in the beginning. We didn't either. They don't seem like it. I didn't like how he was treating everybody in the movie, and I understand that this was supposed to be basically a retelling of what happened. The problem is I knew more or less what was gonna happen, and there wasn't enough to keep my interest. I did watch it, but this wasn't even a second screen type of movie for me. Honestly, I'd rather go watch something else or do something else. There were times that I paused this movie to watch something else so that I could go back and get through it. Because I wasn't invested in this movie and didn't enjoy the character at all, I give it a 2.6 out of ten. Dang. I don't think Mike liked this movie. I don't think he did either. And that's okay. Movies are art and they're to be interpreted by the the viewer however you see fit. It's just like how I cannot stand the shining, and everyone says it's a masterpiece. We'll bring that movie up until we die, I guarantee it. What's your what's your score? And do you think this movie's nostalgic or is it actually a good movie?

SPEAKER_01

I think it passes a nostalgia check because So it's a good movie. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh. I think it's a good movie. I think it passes a nostalgia check. Especially because like Facebook was so huge. Still. Still huge. But like a big part of our childhood or teenage years.

SPEAKER_06

Our formative years. Yeah. Where we started becoming the people we are today.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm like, yeah, I want to watch a movie about Facebook. Like, that's interesting. I would love to see a movie about MySpace.

SPEAKER_06

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

You know? That'd be crazy.

SPEAKER_06

And watch Facebook fucking murder it. Right. That's the horror movie we need.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Um, I don't want to put it up there on the scores with the great movies that we've seen. So off the off off rip. I'm giving it a 7.5.

SPEAKER_06

Nice. 7.5. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's still good. It's pretty good. A good score. Decent movie. Yeah. But um, I mean, that within the last few months, we've seen a lot of really good movies.

SPEAKER_06

I think this movie passes the the test because it's not a nostalgic movie for sure. Like, there are lines that stand out. The fuck you flip-flops line will never not be gold. But when when it comes down to it, I wanted to watch this movie because something sparked it. It's not that I thought about it. I have not watched it since the first time I watched it. You know what I mean? Maybe I have once or twice, but I don't remember watching it. So I don't think it stands out in the nostalgic parts of my brain. While watching it, I felt nostalgia for when Facebook was new. Seeing old Facebook on those screens shocked me. I I don't remember when it I remember what it looked like, but now looking at Facebook, I don't even like getting on Facebook anymore. Just because it's not nostalgia bait doesn't mean it's not a good movie. So it I think it's a great movie. It's really fun. There's some good humor in it, amazing performances, but I'm gonna give it a seven.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

I think I liked it better when I thought about it than when we watched it. But there are things that I watched, there were things I paid attention more when I watched it this time. And it comes down to the performances of all the characters. I think the pacing is great, but I don't feel like we got the full story.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I feel like the movie just kind of ended, and I think it's because of when the movie was made. It was it was made too early in Facebook's life, which is why we're probably getting the sequel that we're getting now.

SPEAKER_01

It seemed to think back at 2010, and it seemed pretty unnecessary to have a movie about that, which is why I'm saying why I said at the beginning of the episode that this movie is not about Facebook. No, it's about the lawsuit that had probably wrapped up recently. Actually, it did a year before that, 2009. So when the lawsuit wrapped up in 2009, they're like, let's make a movie about it.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Because it's a good story. Yeah, it's a good story, but also Facebook at this time was in its infancy still. Uh-huh. It had not become what it is today. And I do think that this movie is when you watch it now, knowing what we know today, it changes the entire feeling of the movie. Knowing all the things that Mark Zuckerberg has done and all the things that Meta and Facebook have done for good and for bad, and the uh addictive nature of everyone on their phones nowadays started because of Facebook. Knowing those things changes how this movie feels, and maybe we feel worse about Mark Zuckerberg in this movie because of what we know now. Maybe we felt bad for him in 2010. I don't remember. Yeah. You look at it now, it's a time capsule of what Facebook's going to be. It's kind of scary.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And that's where we're gonna end our talk about this movie. So uh overall, it's a fun movie. If you have not seen it, if if someone had not seen it, would you recommend them watch it? I would. I would. Yeah, I would for sure. If you haven't seen the movie, why the fuck did you listen to this episode?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So they don't have to? So they don't have to.

SPEAKER_06

Uh, but I highly recommend it. It's a great, it's a great time, two or three times. Yeah. I don't know if I'd want to watch it again. Maybe when the sequel comes out. Yeah. I want to see how they play up against each other.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Jesse Eisenberg not returning for the sequel. They got a guy who sounds and looks more like Mark Zuckerberg. Really? Yeah. I'll show you the trailer when we're done here. Juan, we've made it to the end of the episode. Uh-huh. That's where we're gonna we're gonna say some stuff. Sidebar real fast. We're gonna say some stuff about how they should go to like Instagram and TikTok and YouTube and subscribe all and follow on all of those, where they can go down the description underneath the episode, click the button that says follow us here, takes us to our link tree, all the stuff's there. They can also subscribe on YouTube, which is a good idea. And if they're listening on any of the listening apps for podcasts like Apple or Spotify, five-star review. Yeah, that's this part. So when are you gonna say that? I just did. Okay. But also, you've made it this far in the episode. Thank you so much for listening to BJ in the morning. Please leave us a five-star review if you made it this far, because again, we'll put the the back in Facebook.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Or we can send Jeremy Renner after you. Oh. Because he's scrappy just like Joe Pesci was in the in Casino. Yeah. Why am I saying this? Because next week's episode, uh huh. What movie did we watch, Juan? The Town. The Town. We'd never seen it before and we finally watched it. I think we watched two different versions.

SPEAKER_01

Possible.

SPEAKER_06

There's possible there's three versions. Really? Yeah. We'll talk about it next week, though. So be sure to stick around, subscribe on your favorite podcast listening apps. Five-star reviews so Jeremy Renner can just keep being Hawkeye in retirement instead of him in the town. Right. And with that, it's the end of the episode. So thank you so much for listening to this week's episode of BJ in the morning. My name's Brendan.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm Juan. And we'll talk to you next time.