E19: Past Lives and Energy Work - AI Reimagined

The podcast explores the path to finding inner peace and freedom. Explore the connection between past lives, energy work, and finding inner peace. This podcast discusses balancing masculine control and feminine surrender for greater freedom and deeper wisdom.

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All right. So, today we're uh we're gonna really dig into this idea of freedom to be,

which I think sounds pretty great, you know, in theory. Yeah.

But like in our crazy always on world, it can feel kind of impossible.

Totally.

So, to help us really break this down, Yeah.

we've got some amazing insights from Mette and Sune Sloth.

Okay.

They're experts in energy work,

personal transformation, all that good stuff.

Cool.

And they've been exploring this like for over 20 years.

Wow.

And one thing to say that I found super interesting is that feeling we all have these days of always being on Oh, yeah. Like that hamster on a wheel, you know?

Oh, for sure.

They're saying it's not just like a modern-day annoyance. It's actually like a way deeper issue.

Interesting.

So, how do they like frame that?

Well, they use this uh this really powerful analogy. Okay.

They say it's like we're all these circus horses.

Circus horses.

Yeah.

Constantly being whipped around. driven by all these like internal pressures instead of actually truly living.

Yeah. Yeah, I can see that.

Right. So, they start by asking this like really fundamental question. Okay.

What does it even mean to just be

and why is it so hard?

Yeah.

In the world we live in today.

That's a great question.

Right.

And you know something they've observed is that a lot of people especially women

interesting

feel this deep longing for inner peace.

Mhm.

But they can't seem to find it even when like from the outside their lives look successful.

It's like they're chasing something

totally

but they don't know what it is.

Yeah. Exactly.

Or how to get it?

It's like we're chasing something but we're not even sure what it is or how to get there.

Exactly.

So is that where like all the positive thinking stuff comes in

like just good vibes only? That's what I would have thought.

Right. But uh Meta and Sunnak actually say

okay

it's way deeper than that.

Oh okay.

They say it's about like really facing what's underneath all the stuff we try to avoid.

Right. Right.

And like being present in this moment

which is hard. Oh yeah.

Especially in our culture.

So hard

where it's all about achieving doing more.

Always got to be doing something.

Always more,

right? And they found that like energy work is actually key.

Oh, interesting.

To removing the obstacles and being

I'm really curious about this energy work piece.

Yeah, me too.

Is it like medit? ation or something.

That's a great question.

Yeah.

And actually mate herself,

okay,

she started with meditation.

Oh wow.

To try and find that state of being, but what she found was that it brought up all this deeper trauma

what she needed to address.

So it wasn't just about relaxation, right?

It was about something deeper.

Exactly. So for them, energy work is about accessing these like

deepseated patterns, blockages that are preventing us from experiencing ing true peace.

Okay, that makes sense.

Not just like relaxation.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

So,

what does this energy work actually look like?

That's what I want to know.

Yeah. Like, do they have specific methods?

Do they have like a toolkit or something?

Right. They do. They do.

And they often encounter

these two main types of energetic obstacles.

Okay.

Splits.

Splits

and blockages. I'm intrigued.

So, imagine like your energy is like a river, right?

Okay.

Flowing through you.

All right, I'm with you.

Splits are like being pulled in two opposite directions at once.

Oh, I know that feeling.

Right. And it disrupts the flow.

Totally. Yeah.

Like when you're trying to balance work and family.

Oh, yeah.

You're always feeling like you're shortch changing one or the other.

Exactly. Like that feeling of being pulled in different directions.

Uh, it's the worst.

Yeah.

And Mate, she uses this example of a mother.

Okay.

Who's torn between like wanting to be with her kids

and needing to go back to work.

Yeah.

Right.

That's a tough one. And these splits,

yeah,

they can be rooted in some like really deep stuff.

Like what?

So Sunnan, for example,

okay,

he had a split

stemming from a past life trauma.

Whoa. Okay.

Of losing a child.

Wow.

And he had unconsciously

taken on his partner's grief.

Wow.

Which then led him to constantly shoulder burden. that weren't actually his.

So, these splits can come from some pretty intense places.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What about those blockages?

Okay. Yeah. What about those?

So, think of blockages.

Mhm.

Like dams in that river of your energy.

Okay. Got it.

They create stagnation.

They prevent the free flow.

So, they get stuck.

Exactly.

And these can show up in like both physical and emotional ways. So, Metate was describing working on Soon's energy and she found these blockages. Yeah.

Related to a fear of physical violence

which he hadn't actually experienced in this lifetime.

So then where is that coming from?

Well, that's what led them to explore.

Okay.

The possibility of past life traumas.

Past life traumas. Yeah.

Whoa. That's a whole other level,

right?

How do they even work with that?

I have no idea.

Well, they describe them.

Okay.

Time capsules.

Time capsules

held in the energy body.

Interesting.

And often these surface during their sessions.

Do they just pop up? Yeah, they kind of pop up. They don't actively like do past life regression or anything,

but sometimes these memories, right,

just kind of emerge spontaneously spontaneous

and offer like valuable insights

into present day patterns.

Yeah. So, it's not about dwelling in the past, but more about understanding how it might be like Yeah.

affecting the present.

Interesting.

Do they have any like examples of these time capsules popping up?

Oh, I'd love to hear an example.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, Medi was was working on Sunsune's neck pain. Okay.

And she saw this image of a hanging curve.

Whoa.

Right. And later

they found out

Mhm.

that his family had a history of neck problems.

Which made them wonder

Yeah.

if physical trauma,

right,

could actually be

like inherited energetically

across generations.

Wow. That's wild.

Isn't that crazy? It makes you think about how like we're all connected not just to the people around us, but to our ancestors. our ancestors. Yeah.

So, how do these like past life traumas

Yeah.

actually affect us?

Yeah. Good question.

Is it like I don't know.

Yeah.

Carrying emotional baggage from another life.

That's a great way to put it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, they believe

these unresolved traumas and patterns from past lives can actually like embed themselves in our energy system. Interesting. And continue to influence us even if we're not consciously aware of them.

So, it's like below the surface.

Totally. And then that raises another question. Okay.

Could these energetic imprints

be connected to our DNA?

Wait, our DNA like passed down through our genes?

Exactly. So, it's still a theory.

Okay.

But they've seen these patterns, right,

that suggests that energetic imprints potentially from past lives or ancestors,

could be stored in our DNA

and then influence our experiences.

So, we're not just born with a set of physical traits,

right?

We're also born with like a set of energetic patterns

potentially

that can shape our lives.

Yeah,

that's a pretty big idea.

It is a pretty big idea.

And that's exactly why Metate and Sunna

Yeah.

they believe energy work is so important.

They see it as a way to like address these patterns. Okay.

And reclaim our inherent freedom

to simply be

Wow, I like that. It's like this whole new layer of understanding ourselves. It's a bit

mind-blowing.

Totally.

But it's also really empowering,

right?

To think we can shift those inherited patterns.

Exactly. It's like we're uncovering this whole new layer of understanding about ourselves.

I love that.

It's a bit mind-blowing, but it's also like really empowering to think that we can actually shift these inherited patterns.

Totally.

So, what does this energy work actually involve?

Yeah. What are some of the techniques they use to help people tap into this

freedom to be? like how do we actually do this,

right? Like what are the steps?

What are the steps?

Yeah. They use a variety of approaches.

Okay.

But what I find really interesting is their emphasis on intuition.

Okay.

And like really tuning in to each person's unique energy.

So it's not like a one-sizefits-all.

No, not at all.

Okay.

It's not like a recipe.

Yeah.

It's about responding.

Okay.

To what emerges.

Okay. So what kind of things are they looking for? Like what guides their work? Well, they pay close attention,

okay,

to the person's physical sensations, their emotions, even images or memories that come up.

Interesting.

They also use uh

their own intuitive senses.

Okay.

To feel for like blockages or imbalances.

Interesting.

In the energy field.

So, it's almost like uh

yeah,

detective work

kind of. Yeah.

Gathering clues to understand the root cause of someone's struggles.

Do they have any Oh yeah.

of how this plays out.

Yeah, for sure.

Like in a session.

So there's this one case,

okay,

where Mate was working with a client,

okay,

who had chronic neck pain.

Oh wow.

And as she tuned in to the client's energy,

okay,

she felt this strong sensation in the neck area,

right?

And she had this flash

of an image,

okay,

of someone being hanged.

Whoa, that's intense.

Yeah. Right.

Did the client have any like conscious memory of a past life like that?

Not at all.

But when met a asked

Yeah.

about any family history,

okay,

of neck problems,

right,

the client was amazed

to find out

Yeah.

that her grandmother had struggled

with chronic neck pain.

So, it's like the energetic imprint of that potential past life trauma,

right, was somehow passed down

through generations and showing up as physical pain.

Exactly. powerful example.

It really is

of how these things can impact us.

Yeah. It makes you wonder,

right,

how many physical issues

Yeah.

might actually have an energetic root cause.

Okay. So, we've talked about splits,

blockages, past life stuffs,

even DNA. Is there anything else

we commonly see?

Yeah, they also talk about something they call energetic inheritance.

Okay.

Which kind of gets into those DNA connections we were discussing earlier.

They've observed oberved these patterns

that's suggest

energetic imprints from past lives or ancestors

right

might be stored in our DNA

and then influence us

exactly

so it's like we inherit

it's like we inherit

just physical traits

more than just our eye color or hair color

we inherit these energetic patterns

that can play a role in our lives

it really expands our understanding

it does

of what shapes us as individuals

absolutely and this is where energy work comes in. It can help us address those inherited patterns,

okay?

And reclaim

our inherent freedom

to simply be.

It's like we're not just limited by our genes,

right?

But we have the power to transform.

We have the power.

These energetic influences

to transform

and create a new experience for ourselves.

Exactly.

That's a pretty hopeful message.

It is hopeful,

but realistically, this work probably isn't always easy. You're right.

Right.

Met and soon are very clear.

Okay.

That it's a journey.

Okay.

Not a quick fix,

right?

Facing those shadows within ourselves and working through those deep-seated patterns,

right?

Can be challenging.

Yeah.

And sometimes even painful.

So, it's not about expecting to like snap our fingers and suddenly be healed.

Yeah. Exactly.

It's about committing to the process.

It's about the journey.

Yeah.

They emphasize that it's a collaborative process. Okay.

Well, we can do a lot of work on our own.

Mhm.

Sometimes we need the support skilled practitioner

to guide us through

those deeper layers of trauma and conditioning.

It makes sense. It's like having a trusted guide to help us navigate the terrain and like hold space for us

as we face those challenging parts of ourselves.

The shadow stuff,

right?

Yeah.

We don't have to do it alone.

We don't have to do it alone.

That's such a vital point.

It is

recognizing that We need support and connection.

Connection is key.

It's like we're being reminded that vulnerability

and asking for help.

Asking for help.

Our strengths, not weaknesses.

Totally.

This whole conversation is really making me think about

the interconnectedness of everything.

Yeah. It's all connected.

We're not just individual islands, are we?

Not at all.

Right.

And Mate and Sunune emphasized

that energy worksh

is not just an individual pursuit.

Okay.

It ripples outward.

Okay.

As we heal ourselves,

we also contribute to healing.

Okay.

The energetic patterns,

right,

we inherited from our ancestors,

right?

And might be passing on

to future generations.

Exactly.

Like we're all part

It's like a web

of this larger web of energy.

Of energy. Yeah.

Interconnected in ways

in ways we don't even understand.

You might not even fully grasp.

By doing our own inner work, we're helping to create

a ripple effect. A ripple. effect of healing

of healing

that goes beyond just ourselves.

Exactly.

That's a beautiful way to think about it and it speaks to the potential it does

of energy work to create a more harmonious harmonious balanced world

balanced.

But let's bring it back to the individual for a moment. If someone listening is

like resonating with these ideas.

Yeah.

What are some practical steps?

Yeah. What can they actually do?

Yeah. Where do you even begin?

Well, met soon suggest

starting with simple practices,

okay,

like mindfulness and meditation,

okay,

even spending time in nature,

yeah,

can make a big difference.

I love that

these practices help us,

okay,

become more aware

of our energy and cultivate a sense of inner stillness.

So, it's about slowing down,

slowing down,

tuning in,

tuning in

and paying attention,

paying attention

to those subtle energies that are always flowing,

always flowing

within us and around us. us. Exactly.

And as we become

more attuned,

we're attuned

to our own energy

to our own energy,

we can begin to like identify the patterns and blockages that might be holding us back,

holding us back.

That's where working with a skilled energy practitioner can be helpful.

Can be really helpful.

So someone who can help us navigate

those deep layers,

those deeper layers

and guide us through

the process of releasing

what's no longer serving us,

what no longer serves us.

But there are There are so many different types of energy work out there.

So, how do you even know?

It's overwhelming.

Where to start?

It can be.

Yeah.

MeteSuni's advice,

okay,

is to trust your intuition.

Okay.

Explore different modalities and see what resonates with you.

Okay.

It's about finding

what feels right, right,

for your own unique

energy system and personal journey.

So, it's not about finding

it's not about

the right modality,

the one right way,

but the one

but what feels right

that feels aligned

aligned with you.

What resonates with your own inner wisdom,

your inner wisdom, right? Exactly. And that's a powerful reminder in itself

that we have the capacity to heal.

We do

to grow. They do.

And to experience the freedom to be.

It's already within us.

It's already there.

It is.

So it sounds like this whole journey to like freedom to be

Yeah.

involves a lot of trust.

It does.

Trust in ourselves.

Yeah. Trust in the process

and trust in finding the right support.

Absolutely.

You know, Mete and Sooner actually talked about

Yeah.

how tricky it can be

to even describe

right

this state of being.

Yeah. It's hard to put into words.

They pointed out that language itself.

Okay.

With its need to like define and categorize.

Define and categorize.

Yeah.

Can actually create separation.

Oh, interesting.

From the experience we're trying to access. Yeah. Like we're trying to fit this like expansive fluid concept into these neat little boxes,

right?

And it just doesn't work.

How do we even talk about

Yeah. How do you even talk about it?

Freedom to be

without getting like

tripped up.

Tripped up. Yeah.

By the limitations of language,

right? Exactly.

How do we like grasp something that's more about feeling than defining?

Well, they suggest focusing on the feeling itself.

Okay.

Rather than getting caught up, okay, in like intellectual definitions, right, right, to use uh metaphors and analogies, okay,

to help us like connects with the essence,

okay,

of being.

So, think about those moments of deep connection

protection. Yeah.

With nature,

with art, with loved ones, times when you feel

fully present,

present,

alive.

Yeah.

Completely immersed.

Immersed. in the experience

if you're lost in it.

Yeah. Exactly.

Yeah.

Those are like glimpses

Yeah.

of what it means.

What it means

to truly be It's like when you lose yourself

in something you love.

Mhm.

Whether it's like

dancing, painting, or just being out in nature.

Yeah. You're not overthinking it.

You're just there.

We're just there.

And me, she emphasizes that this state of being isn't something we have to create.

We don't have to force it

or force, right? It's already there.

It's already within us. It's our natural state.

It's our natural state.

It's just that we've gotten so used to like the constant chatter of our thoughts and the busyiness of life.

All the busyiness

that we've forgotten how to access it.

We've forgotten how to access it.

It's like we've built up

it's like layers

all these layers

of a conditioning

belief. Yeah.

That have like

that have veiled our true nature.

Veiled. Yeah. Hidden.

Right.

Yeah.

So is that where energy works? comes in.

I think so.

To help like

peel back those layers,

peel back at the layers

and allow our true selves to like

Yeah.

emerge.

I think that's a beautiful way to put it.

Yeah.

As we gently remove those layers and reconnect with that core essence of who we are,

we naturally become

more present.

Present,

more compassionate,

compassionate,

more loving,

more loving. So, it's not just about

it's not just about feeling better.

Feeling better. No. It's about becoming.

It's about becoming more fully ourselves.

More fully ourselves.

More fully alive.

Yeah.

And that makes this whole idea of freedom to be

freedom to be

so powerful.

Powerful. Yeah.

It's not just a state of mind.

It's not just a state of mind.

It's a way of being.

It's a way of being

in the world.

In the world. Yeah.

Right. And as we move through the world,

Yeah.

with this

like

greater presence and awareness,

greater presence,

it starts to trans transform

transform

everything

everything

our relationships our work even the like simplest moments

even the smallest things

of our day

we bring that wholeness

that wholeness

that connection into all that we do

into everything we do it's like that sense of being ripples outward

it ripples outward

influencing not just our own experience

not just us

but also the world around us

that's a beautiful insight

and me And soon they leave us

Yeah.

with this thoughtprovoking question.

I love a good question.

What if

what if

the challenges we face?

The challenges Yeah.

aren't just like random events,

just things that happen,

but opportunities

to heal and evolve.

Wow.

How would that how would that change things?

Shift the way we approach our relationships,

right?

Our work.

Our work.

Even those everyday moments.

It's a powerful question.

Wow. It really makes you think.

It does. It's a reminder that this journey

yeah

toward freedom to be.

Freedom to be

isn't just about like personal fulfillment. It's also about

recognizing.

It's about recognizing

our interconnectedness.

Interconnectedness. Yeah.

And our potential to create

a more

conscious and compassionate world.

A better world.

Well, that's about all the time we have for this deep dive into freedom to be.

Freedom to be.

We hope it's uh

yeah

sparked some new insight. some new ideas

and inspired you

inspired you. Yeah.

To explore these ideas further.

Keep exploring.

Thanks for joining us.

It was fun.