Yo , yo yo . What are you pouring ?
Speaker 2I do .
Speaker 1I , what are you ?
Speaker 2pouring . Oh , I have made Hmm Interesting .
Speaker 1Make a mocktail .
Speaker 2I did . It's ginger sparkling water , mm , hmm , uh , a splash of Martinelli's orange juice , oh , mm , hmm and um , bitters , and so does by hella bitters . It's like a bitter spritz , yeah , um , and some ice , and it's delicious , oh so my friend um Jenny about it . I'm , yeah , I'm trying to stay as hydrated as possible . Yeah , one , because I'm always dry . Um , it's winter and then . I am recognizing like the dark circles under my eyes are directly related to the lack of hydration .
Speaker 1Sure yeah , oh yeah , I did not know that .
Speaker 2Oh my God , yeah Uh . Facialist lady , who I hate calling a facials , because she's much more than that she's sounds like it . Yeah , um , can tell right away . She can tell if I have eight spicy foods with , I'm eating more dairy than I use , that I need to or should be at all , and how hydrated I am , just by like shine that fucking light on my face and being like go to her . Oh God , it's , it's like awful because you're there's no hiding again .
Speaker 1No , Exactly she's . You're fully exposed . You walk in and she's just like yeah , got the whole list .
Speaker 2Oh , you eat those spicy foods . This is my French accent . You eat those spicy food . Oh , you see , you're not drinking any water , you some dairy , that's okay . I keep coming to me , I take your money . You don't listen , it's okay . Yeah , just can shades me the whole time .
Speaker 1But she's got a French accent , so it's super cute . It's so cute .
Speaker 2So cute and she's totally like just yeah , fucking with me the whole time Like it's fine , oh God , oh , we got just some extractions and then you know , proceed , stuff , just get in there with the extractions , which always it's painful , but it's also satisfying to know that she's taking all of the oil in the parts where the you can't see it until you have a microscope in her lens , essentially next to your face . Yeah , that's good .
Speaker 1Yeah , if that does fascinate me like the . Does she wear like the little magnifying glass to ? Oh , yeah , no , with the light .
Speaker 2No , it's interesting , her studio , which is in oh , what is it ? I guess it's considered River North it . There's two rooms and then of course , you know , like the front , you know reception area , and it's just her . She's sure , she's just her . She's just turned 70 to meet and she pulls you into this room . She gives you a little towel to put over and take your clothes off , she puts a little headband on you and you lay in this chair and it's kind of dark and she always has like soft jazz music playing of some sort .
Speaker 2She's just a CD player , which I think is adorable , and there's these big fucking machines , you know , behind her and she sits down . How are you ? Oh , let's see , let's see . And then she has this , you know , big light , you know that's right on your face , sure , and just looking , and she's like , oh , oh it just I can tell by the sound of her voice how bad it's going to be , you know . And every time I'm like I'm good , right , I'm like I'm good today , are you proud of me ? I'm just looking for validation . And she's like , oh , I see . You know , let's say I see all the skin , you know , and then goes to town . But no , she doesn't wear anything like any blends , it's pure . I've been doing this for 50 fucking years , yeah .
Speaker 1And .
Speaker 2I transformed people's skin . There's not one like I don't go in and know what she's going to do , I just sit in her chair and she does whatever my skin needs , and she treats people like that . It's very much individual , it's not . You know , I'm going to give you pick from a menu .
Speaker 1You don't get a menu at now , you get the chair .
Speaker 2And she assesses , you know , what you need and she , you know , proceeds to get you the medicine you need , and it's always yeah , it's a trip .
Speaker 1I wonder if it's a French thing .
Speaker 2And I say that because Rajit our friend that's in Hawaii she's a masseuse .
Speaker 1She's also studied kinesiology . She started a chiropractic . Like I forgot that she did chiropractic for a while when she cracked my neck the last time I was there and I was like , oh shit , she knows what she's doing , right , right .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1But regardless . Actually , if she didn't have her chiropractic , I still would fucking let her .
Speaker 2do it because it's perjee . Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Like she puts you in poses that you're just like . Well , she makes you get naked , which is totally fine for massage , and then she covers you with a sarong and it's not the full body , sarongs .
Speaker 1It's the sarong . That is basically a napkin , yeah . And then all of a sudden your knee is by your ear and she's pressing on some things and I'm like , oh god , I hope no one walks up the deck right now , Because they're gonna get a fucking show . It's just crazy , but there is no one that has ever given a massage the way Projie gives a massage .
Speaker 2It's pure medicine . That's why I even like I don't know what she calls herself , but I can't , I know and I can't remember when I said like , oh , I go to a woman who's like a face . She's like no , no , no , I'm not the facialist . No , they just , you know , look at you , they give you something and that's it . You know , they give you the same thing . She's like she treats , she's like a doctor for the skin , but she's not a dermatologist . She's a healer of something . Yes , yes , it's different , it's very different .
Speaker 2She's had tons of high profile clients all her life . I know she worked for Oprah for a while . She tells me once in a while a story or two about you know a couple of high profile people that have come in her past and how she gets a little extra fun with the extractions . They say some bullshit she doesn't want to take .
Speaker 1Yeah , brigitte's the same . Her massage table has been signed by Bill Clinton .
Speaker 2Oh , wow .
Speaker 1Pierce Brosnan and a couple other people , and a few years ago , when we were there , she was getting a bid . She was pulling together a bid for somebody that was coming to the island and she , you know , had to sign an NDA or whatever , and she never told us who it was , because that's just who Brigitte is . But yeah , like the rock , is there all the time and I'm like , oh my God , if she's got her hands all over Dwayne Johnson and she's like and she's just like a body's a body .
Speaker 2Yeah , doesn't matter whose it is . A body's a body , yeah .
Speaker 1And I'm like , oh , all right . Well then , that makes me feel better the next time I'm in Child's Pose on your table with this little tiny towel , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2It's wrong . Just the body . It's just a body that she's trading , it's not . She's looking at you and judgment . She's looking at you and like , oh , this not , or whatever you know a masseuse does to make an assessment as to what it is that you need . Like a masseuse , like you said . I think it's . Some people are just more than that .
Speaker 1Absolutely . I remember our friend Hunter when we introduced her to Brigitte . He's like all right , I'm going for one of these massages . So he's telling us the story afterwards and he's like , she tells me to get into Child's Pose and he's like first of all , I don't know what that is . And she shows me what it is and all of a sudden , here I am , staring my balls right , oh God .
Speaker 2He backs me up . What did he say was the best massage he's ever had .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah . There has been nobody that has gotten off of her table that hasn't said that .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's great . Yeah , I need to go just to visit her . Oh , yeah , you do .
Speaker 1Yeah , my brother in law , kenny , when he goes he gets two when he goes there , because he's just like I don't go there often every year like you guys do he's like , so I got to take advantage of it . And then she does this whole cupping thing too . And he's like he goes . At one point it felt like there were eight different hands on me because she also like sits on , like kneels on you and like , uses her knees on the back of your , on your hamstrings or your for me .
Speaker 1She does it on my glutes , which is spectacular , and then her arms and elbows are doing something else and he's like . At one point it felt like there were eight hands and I thought maybe Guillaume came in to help her out .
Speaker 2He comes , her husband , and I was just like oh , yeah , that would be hilarious , but no , that would be great . That's just for .
Speaker 1Jeets magic , she's like awesome .
Speaker 2Oh , that's awesome . Yeah , I had a good massage last night . Actually , speaking of , yeah , my , I'm going to the same guy . Now it's almost a year . I guess I should probably take a look at my membership . But I do that . One of those memberships at Sure , I think it's local . I'm not sure if it's a local franchise , but sure it's not like massage envy or anything like that Not that I have any , you know whatever , but it's in the South Loop , really cute , and that's all they do is massage and it's at weird times it's like 50 minutes or 80 minutes , like you don't get nine .
Speaker 2You know what I mean . Like the standard only part . That , yeah , bothers me . First time I went , there was a guy named Jesse and I just , you know , I don't know who I'm going to , I'm just going in , yeah , and it was like , oh , you know , like this he's , he knows what he's doing , yeah , and of course , now , because I go once a month , that's what the membership is and now he knows we've been doing this for so long where he knows my body and it's not like I . Even he has the same questions every time . First off , he's , he literally looks like he's high .
Speaker 2Every single time I see him Like I don't think I've ever seen the color of his eyes , because they're shut you know , like that kind of high , Just like yeah , he's not in his mind . He also looks like a redheaded Jesus . He's a little tall , kind of thin , with a lot of puffy red hair and a beard , and he is very white , like very transparent white right . So , and it's nothing .
Speaker 1It's fucking opie .
Speaker 2I'm with this kind of but yeah , he looks like my first almost husband , like that's what's off .
Speaker 1Say , I feel like there's a type here .
Speaker 2He looks like Beyonce number one a little bit , except he was blonde with , you know , wild hair .
Speaker 1This guy's still , yeah , yeah , like still the same gangly look , yeah , the same gangly .
Speaker 2look , yeah again . Can't I look him in the eyes and he's not really looking at me ? Or is he shutting his eyes so tight because he's can't look anyway ? Yeah , as he's . The same questions , you know . Are you have any issues with Lavender ? Do you have anything in particular you want me to work on and or focus on , and what kind of pressure do you like ? Same questions I get the same answer this time . I hadn't seen him in two months because I went to someone else , since he was out of town and the guy sucked .
Speaker 2So I see him and I'm like , hey , long time , no C . You know , this is the most we've ever talked to this point . Sure , it's like , hey , I could see you . Anything , any new issues ? Nope , so anything you want me to focus on , I'm like all of it . He's like , OK , you still afraid of Lavender ? Nope , nope , no issues . Go in . This man , literally with his hands , said to me hey , girl , I missed you , I love it . I love it . I mean , you do it . That's something new , that's a knot , let's get in there . Just like elbows and hands and arms . He does something where he rubs your back with just the amount of pressure , but like you would rub a baby . You know , sure , he burped like that . That is the I get . Like , I get goosebumps whenever he does it and I want to cry and I have , yeah , because I'm like there's something so magical about being touched . Touched , yes , but in a , but not in a sexual way .
Speaker 1No right .
Speaker 2Really Soothing , yes , oh .
Speaker 1God , why do you ? Why do you think babies want to be touched ? Yes , swaddled .
Speaker 2Rub your back .
Speaker 1Yes , we were talking about that because I got a massage in Vancouver before I left . And we were talking about like what when we got , and I said well , I usually get the relaxing massages versus like a deep tissue because I'm a delicate flower . And sometimes it just gets a little too rough . But I can't quite take it Like I've literally the first time on Brigitte's table I had bruises .
Speaker 2Oh , yeah , I wanted to fuck me up . Yeah , I was just like .
Speaker 1I'm like , oh , I need a little bit of a chintler , yeah , and then when I go to Mexico , I'm like give me the relaxing massage , because I'm not mad about someone just petting my skin either .
Speaker 1Yeah so there's just something about that . The guy that I had was like in the middle , but he did like more work on the upper body because my back was kind of fucking with me . And then he's like , well , do you want to ? You know , do you mind ? If I can , I do the buttocks and I'm like , oh God , yes , please . Because that's my favorite , like when my chiropractor does that , like I make it weird for him . Sometimes I'm like , oh , you're all dirty right , my chiropractor is just so flat .
Speaker 1Like if he was an accountant . It's the same flat , high personality . So when I give him some shit like that , he's just like , oh , doesn't really know what to say to me , because I'm just like oh , my God , I feel so good .
Speaker 2Oh God , yeah
. I usually tell Jesse I love him when he asks me if he stops , you know , five minutes , or not , stops but five minutes . And he'll say you know , is the pressure okay , you like me changing anything ? And I'm like I love you and he's like okay , and then he just keeps going , he keeps going .
Speaker 2I get your phone number . That'd be great . Yeah , I like if I did . I breathe like he's just . I love the real , I love building a relationship with someone who is there for you know , you're like that part of my wellbeing .
Speaker 2I never thought massage or any somatic work was as important as it is .
Speaker 2And it's just talking to a friend about this too , this weekend who had acupuncture , and afterwards we were sharing , you know , through messages and such that there was a lot of other things that were coming up and I had to pause and just say you know , hey , reminder , you just had acupuncture .
Speaker 2And I feel like the older I get , or the more aware , and like maybe self aware , that I've become with my physical body . Those types of practices acupuncture or massage , hell , yoga again practice all of those things , any of those somatic practices they have an impact and sometimes you don't even know what the impact is and I think when I was younger I wouldn't . People would say that like , oh , give me a salt , some water , eat some chocolate , get grounded , you know , and I would hear it and not even allow myself to let the practice resonate in some way . Right Now it doesn't have a choice and I think there's a part of that is like this is what it's like to be sober where you are , you are in it , you feel all of the things , including the impact of some of these somatic practices , and the way that the release I think that comes from it is so strong .
Speaker 1Absolutely , I 100% agree , which is why I've always been fascinating with more Eastern medicine than Western medicine , because I think that so much can be learned from our body which , like when you were talking about with your facial leg , you walk in and she's just like oh , you haven't had any water , oh , you've been eating spicy food Totally .
Speaker 1She doesn't know your fucking menu , but here , you can see it on you Right , and you're not given , you're not thinking twice about it , you're like never . Yeah , I think it's . It's fascinating how much we don't listen to our bodies and that we don't understand today .
Speaker 2The impact ?
Speaker 1I don't think so . I just think it's a as I've gotten older and I think for me yoga opened this up for me . But I think I've done more work beyond that because for me my yoga training was all about the physical part of it and not about anything else . But as I've gone through and done different sort of healing work , different sort of somatic therapies and things like that , like I am much more aware of how all of this stuff shows up in your body . Honestly , I really think like when I read , your body keeps a score .
Speaker 1Prior to that book I had heard you know different things and I think I just that like opened up the box for me and I was just like , All right , there's some shit here . And actually this when I was in Vancouver , there was a book there that Val had that's called Metaphysical Anatomy and it breaks down anything that's going on in your body like why , why , that would be there . And so I looked up an eel gland like what happens if some things are closed off in your Penel gland and I'm like , oh , that's fucking awesome . Here we go . And then I looked up I have high Cholesterol from a couple years ago when I went in for my physical after Covid and I'm like , well , I know what ?
Speaker 1Yeah , yes , I get why I probably have high cholesterol . Like I've been drinking beer , like it's going out of style and I've been eating whatever the fuck I want . So , yeah , I've been wait . Obviously my cholesterol go up , go up . But in the book for metaphysical it says lack of joy and I'm like , huh , Well , that's , that makes sense too great . Alright , then I'm super excited now to dive into this book and just be like , oh yeah .
Yeah shit in there and I think , like you said , like you have acupuncture and you're opening up all of these channels that have been Blocked in your body . It needs to go someplace .
Speaker 2Yeah , totally , it has to . It doesn't ? It's not just you poke yourself or you get poked and that's the end , same in all roles . You roll over and you know that's the end of . I mean sure , again , I feel like that's part of at least that's been my my experience with some of this work . Emdr is a lot like that . Yeah , and the same thing I was saying . It's almost like you when you would go and drop off film to get developed . That's what some of this , like EMDR , specifically feels like , that you go in .
Speaker 2Process , a target , and then you know you leave and you're like right , oh you know , some shit got opened up there and in three days later , like I said , you're in a closet , crying a fetal position , and you're like oh , I don't know why I'm mad at the potato chips . Well , it's because of whatever it's like . That's the film . Like you drop it off . Yeah , the picture like is this what I took ? Like I don't even remember this happening , or or ?
Speaker 1whatever .
Speaker 2Yeah , and that I yeah , it's been . That has been a very interesting part of , like , I think , growing and healing and Becoming more self-aware , and that's also been a very interesting part of sobriety , because I'm no longer blocking my own self from myself right , right .
Speaker 1That's fascinating . I like that a lot and I love the analogy with the EDMR , with the uh dropping off the film . That's Because it also feels like you're also digging back in that box a film that you fucking kept in your life .
Speaker 2Oh shit , yeah .
Speaker 1Oh man , I wore that . Oh , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't remember any of this , like they literally is three days , I mean it should hit you and you don't , you think you're okay and you are okay until yeah then pops up and then you're able to process it in a way that maybe you weren't open to , right , open to processing before . Yeah , ununcapable , yeah , yeah , they did something in locks . I love that . I do love that . I also feel like with you know . Back to to Jesse , my friend Jesse , in the massage . I um , you know I have some tort stories about my past and Massage therapists that come to your home .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't want to be .
Speaker 1Leaving it there .
Speaker 2I have some amends to me .
Speaker 2We'll say that , and I feel like this is a living amends for me to be in a very professional yet Respectful relationship of , like , you know , receiving the gift and also being able to , you know , give the gift back , and of course , in the form of money .
Speaker 2But you know , I fucking tip him 35 , 40% , one , because it's that important and I want him to like , know , like this work isn't just like , and even though that shop kind of feels like a shop , you know you get one after the other and I can't imagine what his a day looks like . And so to have someone coming at the end of your day and you're still giving them , you know your best and you're still paying attention , I guess just wild how he Um Can pick . He got some people just have that neck for knowing , like I'm seeing , this person is not just a person but like a body that needs Attention . So it's nice to not it's an , it's nice to be in that kind of a relationship with someone and also respect the craft of body work in a way that isn't like you know . Take me down .
Speaker 1Oh god , that's , that's real .
Speaker 2That's real too . You need to get it down .
Speaker 1Oh God , I'm not paying for that .
Speaker 2That's a different service .
Speaker 1That's a different service . That's a different service . That's a different number . Maybe maybe the building next door . I'm sorry for your father who may listen to this back . I don't think he does . Okay , I don't think he's figured it out yet . I've showed him several times , I just it's not on the radar , sorry .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1All right , anything else going on ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm just going to say I'm sorry for your father , I'm sorry for your father , I'm sorry for your father . Not really , today's been low key . I spent some time with a friend yesterday A coworker friend I don't even like calling our coworkers . I feel like that categorizes her as like someone I'm not vulnerable with and I really are . Like we have to come Close and , like I said , I got my massage . We've gone for a long walk today and yesterday .
Speaker 2It's sunny here . I'm going to get ready for a little bit of a massage . I'm going to make some potato leek soup tonight and Chill out . Get ready , for you know I'm not going to get ready for work , I'm going to enjoy the rest of the evening that sounds great .
Speaker 1That's sounds delightful .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm going to try something new . It's creamless , which basically means it's just a lot of celery , it's everything . Jeff hates a lot of celery , a lot of leeks .
Speaker 1It's just a lot of celery , that's just a lot of celery . That's just a lot of celery , that's just a lot of celery , that's just a lot of celery Period .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah but .
Speaker 1No , that sounds great . I do like potato soup .
Speaker 2Me too . I bought some really good cheese from a farmer's market yesterday . I also got some lamb fennel sausage . I thought I could make a little baby lamb fennel sausage meatballs for that soup .
Speaker 1Oh .
Speaker 2Necessarily feel like doing that right now . So we'll see I'm going to try it .
Speaker 1I like it All right . Well then , on that note , what's that ?
Speaker 2Are you flying back tonight ?
Speaker 1No , I just got here .
Speaker 2Oh , I thought you were there for the weekend , but you're there , no , I just got here .
Speaker 1I leave we leave on Thursday , so Jeff's here for a work trip . So I just came in to see him and spend some time in New Orleans , get some grits I'm so excited have some help .
Speaker 2What's the weather like ?
Speaker 180s . I know it's warm .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's cold as shit here . And I know what's called in Minnesota .
Speaker 1So yeah , yeah , it was 40s when I left .
Speaker 2It just like she we're in November . No , we are in .
Speaker 1November , almost yeah , it was actually 37 would be when I left this morning , mm , hmm , it's winter coat season for y'all .
Speaker 2All ready 36 .
Speaker 1Okay , 20s , 20s . I'll wear my winter coat . Oh my God , and it'll be that next week , exactly After I leave this .
Speaker 2As soon as you leave 20s , damn , oh man . It just doesn't seem right . But I know we're here , so it's all right , me and San Diego on a Maybe 80 something days .
Speaker 1So yeah , that's gonna be great yeah . All right , right on that note .
Speaker 2Have a good time , Joe .
Speaker 1I will . I will talk to you later . Bye .