The Raid / Electric Nachos (Guest: Matt Yanagiya)

Actor/Stunt Performer/Martial Artist and FORMER CHILD SUPERSTAR Matt Yanagiya arrives at the studio and sticks around through "The Raid" (: Redemption? Dir. Gareth Evans 2011) Starring; Iko Uwais, Ray Sahetapy, and Joe Taslim. Our first absolutely balls to the wall action extravaganza, and thank gawd we have an expert here to guide us through 15 floors of pandemonium! 

Plot: A S.W.A.T. team becomes trapped in a tenement run by a ruthless mobster and his army of killers and thugs.

Recorded 11/23
1hr 49mins

**All episodes contain explicit language**
Artwork - Ben McFadden
Review Review Intro/Outro Theme - Jamie Henwood
"What Are We Watching" & "Whatcha been up to?" Themes - Matthew Fosket
"Fun Facts" Theme - Chris Olds/Paul Root
Lead-Ins Edited/Conceptualized by - Ben McFadden
Produced by - Ben McFadden & Paul Root
Concept - Paul Root

Transcript

Let's see, like, the appeal. I think that How terrible it is. I think Polar Express worked with that because it was, like, oh, dreamlike. Yeah. But, like, Beowulf?

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that 1. When dreams become nightmares? There he did he did 3 of them. Right?

Oh and then the Christmas Carol with, Right. Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey. Oh yeah. That was creepy.

I remember. I feel like I enjoyed that too actually. I've not seen that 1 to be a % honest. It doesn't hold a candle to Muppet Christmas Carol. Christmas Carol.

I don't know what it does. Hold the candle. Yeah. You we're in good company today here with our guest based on that comment, specifically. Muppet Christmas.

Oh, man. I remember I was dating somebody and we were watching a Muppet Christmas Carol. Christmas Eve, sitting on the couch together and That sounds serious. And I yeah. It was Christmas sounds serious.

Moment because, like, big guy, like, went to snuggle up with him and he was, like, just, like, kinda shimmered away. I was like, is everything okay? What's wrong? Like, and he was like, and then just ended up being, like, I don't know if I'm into this anymore. Like, on Christmas Eve, middle of Muppet.

Oh, woah. I was like, Was it because he was too into Muppet Christmas Or not in nothing. And you weren't respecting I don't I don't know. How into it he was. It's hard to say.

It's a great film. I mean, I lost train of thought a little bit after that. So Wait. Which he did he say he was done in that moment? Yeah.

Did you keep watching the movie? I don't think so. I think I I went home. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. That's the 1 of the 1 things that could, like, peel you away from that movie, I think. That's a really sad connection to happen.

A relationship ending. Yeah. I still like the movie. But I still think about that a lot. But Hey, everyone.

Welcome to the review review boohoo edition. If you're not crying already, you will be. Welcome back. You know what we do on this show. I'm Paul.

I'm Ben. We have a guest with us. Today's guest is hi. I'm Matt. Matt is here, which is so fun.

Yeah. I'm Matt. It's so great. I I have to go back to your previous story real quick because Please. I want it to have happened in the time where Scrooge is breaking up with his girlfriend and they're singing the song, the sad song.

That was cut on the DVD edition, if you don't recall. I've watched this movie a lot. I've had it in various forms, DVD Blu ray. Now it's on Disney plus. But that song, that famous song which they reprise at the end was cut.

It just randomly cut. Just like Woah. The movie cut it and then they put it back in on Disney plus. For time? What does it does it fit the like does that chop it down to half an hour putting on a TV or something?

Maybe. You know what I mean? I mean, the movie's only like ninety minutes. Barely, I think. Was it cut for commercials?

Yeah. Exactly. So it still fits the one hour and a half slot. The song was the love the love we share that song and then it comes back at the end. So it doesn't make sense for them to cut it because they it literally comes back at the very end.

They sing it together. There's a reprise. Especially if it sounds that good as it just did coming from your Exactly. Dripping absolute honey. Anyway, we're not talking about Muppet Christmas Carol today.

We're not. We're welcoming Matt. Yes. And Matt, I just we can talk about whatever the fuck we want. Now we can.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, welcome to the review review. What we do here, we take a movie that's seven years old or older. It's not part of any major franchise.

It's less than two and a half hours long. We have a guest that brings us this film and they have feelings about that film. We don't know what Matt's feelings are about this film. The film that he brought us is The Raid. Or The Raid Redemption?

Yeah. Question mark? Yeah. I think that's what I I think it was called Redemption in like Indonesian language that they had. It's called death building or death tower or something.

And then they peeled them both. Now it's raid redemption. Because on IMDb, it's just the raid. Yeah. Right.

On Netflix and Letterboxd is Raid Redemption. These movies that have titles that change like John Carter of Mars and Edge of Tomorrow and some of these things What is John Carter of Mars called? It's just called John Carter. John Carter. Yeah.

Oh, that was the original title. Right? The book was John Carter of Mars. Right. And the movie was too and then they cut the Of Mars.

Oh, I didn't know the movie was that original. And Edge of Tomorrow in England is called Live, Die, Repeat. That's the tagline in America. And now I think it's colon Live, Die, Repeat in some places. Live die repeat.

In Jabutti. In your colon. Is where the colon is? In your colon? Is in Jabutti?

I hate you. Okay. So we just watched the raid. But, Matt, before we talk about the raid, can we talk about you a little bit? What you do?

Because again, we can talk about whatever the fuck we want. We can, can't we? Oh, this is like plugs and stuff? I was just Yeah. I talked about yourself.

That I was I did act in a movie that was like that came out like a year ago and it's on MTV called Binge to Death. I haven't seen it yet. So, but it's like 1 of those, like, parody kind of, like, movies, but mostly about, reality shows. That 1 was fun. Shot that last year in Vancouver.

I think Atlus' should be coming out kind of soon, which I did stunts on, which is pretty cool. But Fellow Vancouver. Right? Different Vancouver though. Yeah.

By the way. Better Vancouver. Better Vancouver. Ben's pointing at me. Safer Vancouver.

Better Vancouver. Still pointing at me. Nope. Definitely not. Stop pointing at me.

It's very rude. Nobody has ever ended up in Vancouver washing and been like, oh, great. This is the 1 I was looking for. Exactly what I wanted. Except for maybe the well, Vancouver who discovered it maybe.

George Vancouver? George Vancouver. Yeah. Sure. Did you make that up?

No. That's his name. George Vancouver. Could have made it. Yeah.

I have respect. Okay. So, Matt, you were saying stunts on Atlas and Not a huge amount other than that because, of course, we have been on, on strike. So And this is the first episode we've recorded post strike. Yes.

We went through the rider strike and now we've been through the side strike. And now we can talk about whatever the fuck we want. Yeah. Which I just can't let go of apparently. I'm very excited about that.

I can tell. Ben, how are you doing? I'm doing well. I've fully recovered from my, forty eight hour theater festival which, you came to. Thank you so much.

What a triumph. Thank you. What a wonderful wonderful time. What a wonderful thing. It was great.

I'm gonna go on for a moment. I went last year and it was like a mix of some drama and some comedy and some this year, it was literally leaned just a little more comedy and it felt like a little more like SNL or Second City or something. I just had the best time and I laughed a lot. Good. Yeah.

That's great. I feel like we saw a lot of growth. Yeah. I feel like I'm pitching some sort of app or something. Saw some exponential growth.

Yeah. You you really did. You ameliorated here. You really did. You were proactive.

Wow. We have a lot of good things to to like here. There's a lot here for our society. We thought the situation was untenable, but here we are. But yeah.

I thought it went I thought it went really well. And I'm stoked to do it again, and I think we got a lot of people jazzed and the audiences were good. And, yeah, it was good. So I'm doing pretty good. How how are you, Paul?

My back's still pretty fucked. Yeah. Your back is fucked up. I'm sorry. Though.

Like, I'm okay. Yeah. Keeping on keeping on. Keeping keeping on. I don't wanna stick on how Matt, how are you doing?

Are you doing well? Back stuff. My back is also messy. What is it? I have I'm like 2323235454.

It sounds like you're both pregnant. Yeah. How's your sacral spine? Because mine is like Mine's a little not great. Yeah.

Oh, that's tough. Yeah. All sorts of weird hip pains. It's been a journey. It's been quite a journey.

I mean, I'm just lucky that I didn't throw out my back lately because I could have a conversation in this. I can be part of this conversation. But Yes, Tom. I'm so sorry that you haven't. Yeah.

I can't I feel I feel I feel really left out. Well, at least your headphones are on the wrong ears. Great. Wow. The right's on the left and the left's on the right.

So take that, fuck. Sucka. Damn it. But either way I'm not gonna switch. Now that we know how everybody is doing, what is everybody watching?

We have a theme for this, I think. Do we? Wait. Did anybody watch what's 1 of his movies? Just a random movie.

What? Zoolander. Oh, there it is. Okay. Now we can do it.

Oh. What's this? What is this? I love that it gets so confusing for the guests. Inside joke.

Okay. Billy Zane lives on my roof. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Sure. Dressed as He's a pretty cool dude. The Phantom. Pretty cool. Yeah.

Dressed as the Phantom. Binoculars on Warner Brothers. Just waiting for him to green light. The sequel. It's gonna happen.

Yeah. I get it. I'm just waiting for the next Tales from the Kryptonite movie that he I hope Yeah. He's waiting for Titanic 2. Capsule.

I swear that is that already. I feel like James Cameron would float that by and he would spell the 2 with a dollar sign. Oh, I love it. Titanic. Get it green lit?

Yeah. Yeah. Aliens? Yeah. Yeah.

I love it. And the studio would be like Before we go into what we are watching Yeah. Matt, have you seen Alien and Aliens? I've seen them. Yeah.

Yeah. They're, my fiance's, like, favorite movies. Actually, his picket sign was just a picture of Ripley and then 1 of the aliens, like, with drip dripping or, like Moist. You. And it just said, I don't know what species is worse, but you don't see them fucking each other over for a percentage.

Yeah. Alright. I love a piece of shit. His strike sign that we, he carried out. So good.

That's awesome. Whole strike. So that that's we're not even gonna throw that out. I think that's gonna stay somewhere hung up. That's so yeah.

Of course. You gotta keep going. Why did you ask that question, Paul? Well, I was just wondering if you had a preference between the game. Oh, wow.

You're still playing this game. For some for any reason. Is it contentious? I think maybe a little. We had a debate debate episode where we Okay.

Okay. We I had a team Okay. I had a co counsel, Paul to co counsel. I had a lot of them like it was I was in representation of alien. Paul was aliens.

Judge Judith Sheinland did not give a judgment in this moment. We turned it over to the people. Oh, I mean like And we're still going. Between me and Dom, I'm team alien for sure. That's my favorite, like, bottle episode horror.

Yeah. Like fun. It sets up a lot. It's clean. And then he loves aliens.

Like, that's his his jam. Like, he's all for that side. Yeah. But I'm a Dom, Benza Matt. Yeah.

That's that's what we're I'm aliens. But I mean, I feel like it's splitting a lot of Yeah. Well, what's funny is It's gonna get this podcast canceled. I'm walking away. But we're arguing about 2 per near nigh perfect films.

They're both great. Yeah. They're both good. I, like, I would I don't I don't dislike Alien. Me neither.

Was I really was sucked into Yeah. Alien. I think Alien is a generational defining movie. Atmospherically, it's pretty incredible. There's there's a there's a lot to enjoy there.

Yeah. I mean, like, yeah. I feel like it's I've admitted this so many times. He's gonna edit that out. That's the point anyway.

Yeah. You can't lose, I guess. He's also gonna he's also gonna add an s to the end of your alien. Oh, is that what he's gonna do? Yeah.

Well, I'm I'm saying that Dom Dom is on team Paul here, but like, I'm with you. Yes. I'm with you here. Thank you. Yeah.

Thank you. What are we watching? Who's gonna go first? I'll go first. Yeah.

I'll just talk about 2 things 2 movies I watched this weekend. 1 of them being The Marvels. Oh. I liked it. I thought it was super fun.

I think that it's getting a lot of bad press for the obvious reasons. But it compared to a lot of the MCU slog lately, I feel like this was super fun. Like, it was like, it was good and I feel like it's fine that it's good. Like, it doesn't need to be three hours long and some epic thing. Not every release from Marvel has to be an event.

Right. They're a movie studio. Some of their movies are not gonna be It was also clearly, like, cut up, which is a real shame. That's, like, my biggest note about it is that the third act just felt like it, like, got chopped to pieces. But I had a lot of fun.

And then I watched, John Wick 4 because I hadn't seen it. You had a lot of time on your hands this weekend, apparently. Well, final John Wick four is, like, four hours long or some shit. I know. I didn't realize how long until I started it.

Matt, immediately. Yeah. It's a banger. Mhmm. Immediately.

It's got it's long. Yeah. It is long. I think it's fun. I really liked it, and I felt like it was I I believe 1 of the actors from the raid is in the third one Mhmm.

Parabellum. And so I felt like I wanted to complete the John Wick cycle, which I don't know if it's over. Whoever fucking knows. I think it's over. But Sue I'm not sure because, like, I've worked for the gang that like, the eighty seven eleven gang that does it, and they, I feel like they've alluded to like maybe more going on, but their their hands are in so many pies.

They're doing so much different stuff that like Good. It's not like coming up soon, but like I feel like there's never, it's still doing great, it's still making money. There's still like a hunger for it like Yeah. I think people are gonna go. So Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chance to do it and they aren't like completely bogged down. But those guys are incredible.

Those guys like really push the boundaries of like fight stuff. I'm sure John Wick was, like, inspired by That yeah. That fight style, at least, like Absolutely. Mhmm. Gun jitsu stuff is stuff that they, you know, come up with themselves for sure.

But, like, you know, you don't watch the nobody stunt related got through, you know, whatever, 02/12 without watching it and going, like, oh, we need to do things that are similar to this. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I just thought John Wick four, like like, just incredibly well executed, like, from top to bottom. I mean, choreographed shot lit. The lighting department deserves us so much credit, I feel like, because they're just, like, light the shit out of it. 1 of the things I did love is that Donnie Yen is clearly just so much better than Keanu.

So they so they made him blind, which I was like Just like in Star Wars. Star Wars. Yeah. Yeah. But I thought that was funny.

I mean, Keanu obviously can move, but Donnie Yen is Donnie Yen. Yeah. And so it was like Blue Shield will champion, like, 4 times or something like that. Yeah. So there's a way they had to pull him back a little bit so he wasn't too overpowered.

But it was great. I really liked it. Paul, what are you watching? Oh, me? Well, I watched David Fincher's new release to Netflix, The Killer.

I really liked it. Okay. It's it's 3 and a half, which is a high score for me. It's a pretty high score. 3 or 3 and a half out of 5?

3 and a half out of 5. He made it three and a half hours in. Out of the five hours Yeah. I just didn't have the patience. It takes a lot of energy to do nothing.

But I do like that the movie is it feels really self effacing in terms of the David Fincher piece of it all and how precise he is and how much of a perfectionist he is and so on and so forth. Good movie. Fun. Well shot. Really liked it.

And just wrapping up Veep and bless. Like, if you wanna watch a master like Julie Louis Dreyfus and various other Timothy Simons on that show. Holy shit. But just people just eviscerating each other for 2 the last two seasons of that show. It's just people tearing each other to shreds, and it's wonderful.

I love it. It's been a really, really fun ride. It took me a while to finally finish it. I need to watch it. I haven't seen it.

It's like, ripping into each other version of West Wing kind of thing. Yes. Yeah. Like, they're so clean with their insults to each other. It's really impressive.

And last thing on that, it's really wild to watch it now. Because I watched the first two seasons years ago. Finally came back to it recently. And I swear to you, there are so many people on Trump's team that watched Veep and were like, yeah. We'll do that.

He's like, this will work. Almost sure of it. It is insane. Matt Uh-huh. What are you watching?

Well, me and Dom have, like, a we have a huge, huge, huge collection of, like physical media Blu ray Rad. And, and 4 k's and stuff like it must be close to 2000 or so now. Wow. And the other day, I went through and just like pulled out all the ones that like are still in self in wrapping that we haven't touched. Woah.

And it was Wow. There was, like, a 66 Blu rays that we haven't even opened. How do you display them? They're on, like, a whole entire wall of our house. Okay.

Like, it's yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. So we have a system to go through movies, to like pick movies. It's called the pull system.

Where I'll walk through and like pull out the spines of all of the films that I'd feel like watching. Let's say if I'm doing the big pull. Mhmm. And then Dom will come through after I'm done and push in everything but 3. I love this.

This is great. These are ones that I'd be okay with watching. And then I'll the first person Take the final pull. Takes the final 1 out of those 3 and picks that 1. That's a great system.

It's good. It works. Because, like, you know, the first person comes in with, like, all of these I'd be okay with watching right now. And the other person goes, like, no no no no no no. Not this 1.

Too long. Whatever. Too fun. Too sad. Too violent.

Whatever. And then you end up with, like, just a small choice selection selection that really cuts you down and, like, we do it pretty fast. Like, it's it kind of eliminates that, like, streaming fear of, like Yeah. Scrolling through, like, 10 Yeah. Doom scrolling.

Like, what you're gonna pick. Yeah. What's the most you've watched John McTiernan's rollerball in a year? We don't have that. Oh.

They don't have, they don't have the 4 k. There's no criterion collection? We're waiting. Yeah. So we'll only get that in 4 k.

I won't watch it anyway. That makes perfect sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. But we did Perfect Storm last night.

Oh, wow. Nice. I do own that oh my god. Whoo. Just blew up the world.

I do own that movie. It's great. Yeah. I haven't seen it in a while. I had never seen it before last night.

It was an opener. Mark Wahlberg. Right? Mark Wahlberg's in it? Mark Wahlberg and George Clooney and, If I buy a Snickers back and I use your dumpster, we're going out to sea.

Say what up to your mother for me. And, like, Diane Lane was in it. Oh, that's right. The best. Oh my gosh.

That, John C. Riley, Samuels. Oh, right. Wolfgang Petersen. Yeah.

Fitchner? Fitchner? Fitchner? Fitchner? Fitchner?

But he's every time you see him, he's He's a great character actor. Yeah. When we were watching it, we were like, oh my god. Like, Mark Wahlberg there was a point where he was, like, a good a really good actor. He he, And then, like, then he 3 Kings?

Something. Yeah. I don't know what happened. He became Mark Wahlberg. He became, like, himself Yeah.

Rather than, like, an actor. Yeah. He did a movie that Say what up to your mother for me? Came up in my mind while I was watching this that I was, like, man, I should rewatch The Corruptor. That was a good Walbrig movie.

It's him and Chow Yun fat. When was the last time he made a good movie? I really liked, oh, gosh. Well, I I wanna call it The Patriot, but that might that's not right. Patriot Day?

Patriot Day. Patriot Day. I have not seen it. The the Boston bombing. Peter Berg directed?

It wasn't too, rah rah America. Honestly, I thought it was gonna be. Yeah. And I am not an American, so I'm not very But you're connect with rah rah America very much. But you're from Vancouver.

Right. Yeah. And I'm from Vancouver. Yeah. Different But I'm from America.

Let's let's move on. But I'm American. Let's move on. How are you what? It's gonna hurt to explain that.

It started with, like, Mark Wahlberg's kind of story and then it shifted on to, like actually, I think it's like Alex Wolff or Nat Wolff, one of the Wolff brothers. Mhmm. Playing, like, Georgian terrorists or something. And I'm like, now I'm thinking of it. I was like, I think those guys are white.

I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe I could be wrong. Alex Wolfson. Is he white?

Maybe I could be maybe I'm wrong. I might be wrong. Either way, they were good. I thought they were pretty good. I see.

Yeah. That People with other brothers were good. I just was like thinking about it now. It's been like seven years or ten years. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. Mark Wahlberg.

I saw Lone Survivor years ago and I thought that was okay. Clint Eastwood? No. I think that's Peter Berg also. Uh-huh.

I think he and, Mark Wahlberg are like super homies. I I used to love 3 Kings. That used to be 1 of the movies that I fell asleep to. I still think that movie is phenomenal. Yeah.

I like to party. Even though Daniel Russell apparently sucks. Yeah. Sure. Oh, difficult to work with.

Yeah. I've heard that too. Yeah. Didn't Clooney punish him? On the set of that movie supposedly?

I wouldn't be surprised. Who directed, Perfect Storm? Wolfgang Petersen. Yeah. Wolfgang Petersen.

Yeah. Wolfgang Petersen. Okay. Got it. Got it.

1 of the greats. Totally. James Horner did the music and it was, really great. But I remember thinking, like, oh, it's very, like, cues. Cues.

Got it. Like it's if that makes sense. You can anticipate a lot of the beats. Yeah. Yeah.

They just preempt the emotional beats just like a little bit too soon. So you're like, oh, it's about something bad is about to happen in four seconds. Yeah. Oh, I know. Yeah.

Actually, speaking of things that bad that are gonna happen, you're entering a building with 30 of your well armed buddies to watch the raid for the very first time, Matt. How did that go for you? Did everybody make it out? How'd you feel about it? The so the first time I watched it, I remember I was, like, just starting stunts in, Vancouver.

I'm not Washington. Oh, woah. The 1 that has the film industry. The 1 that has Blowing my mind. The 1 that has health care.

Yeah. That 1 too. Yeah. Not not a lot of math. Little math?

I mean, maybe some now. There's maybe like a fentanyl problem in Vegas. Aw. But, I mean, comparatively, I don't know. Yeah.

Defined problem. Yeah. But, I remember getting, like, told we had to go and, like, watch what these guys do if you were gonna make it as a stunt performer and make it. We're like, the this was the new this was gonna be the new fight style for a while in stunts. Yeah.

Because long back in the Protector and that kinda like the Tony Shaw stuff was coming up and coming through. And then when I watched this and I was like, oh, god. Like, okay. Alright. I'm gonna have to be able to learn a hundred beat fights and like Dude.

Fight with machinies and weird weapons and salat stuff and like all this styles of fighting that like no That aren't like readily available. Luckily, you know, it was 02/12, so there was the Internet. You can still, like, learn stuff. But, like, there wasn't, like, a salat instructor down the street at the time. So I was, like, alright.

You're gonna have to, like, learn a lot of different stuff. You're gonna have to go places to figure this out. So And now there's just a lot for dummies. Can I ask you a question? How did you get into stunts?

Like, did you come through martial arts? New. I was a child actor. Basically, my mom started whoring me out. Like, I was a gymnast.

Mhmm. A child like a a gymnast at that time and a child actor. Yeah. Like Dick Grayson. Who?

I don't know who. It was Robin, Batman. Oh, okay. Yeah. I didn't know that.

Gymnast. Tumblr, etcetera. Yeah. I remember I was working on a movie called Santa Claus 2. And I was, like, 1 of the elves.

Like Tim Allen Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. And we were in a football scene where he's like whatever playing football with a bunch of elves. Sure.

It's like him versus 7 Like you do. Children. Yeah. As you do. Call your friend a little kid.

The day came or they like, we've shot the scene for, like, at least a week. And the day came for, like, us to get destroyed by him. Because all your friend little Kean? Because he got replaced by an evil Oh, right. Yeah.

And so now he crushes all of the elves and it's like a fun situation, for the Yeah. But, like, you know, we were all set up to do this stuff and we're running around. And then there were then just like 2, like, smaller stature, like, female performers came and they were just like wearing my stuff and like the other people that were coming in like a couple of them and was like, oh, what's going on? And they were like, oh, these are your stunt doubles. I was like, oh, cool.

That's that's cool. Like, I don't even have to do anything now. Yeah. Because I was a lazy child. Sure.

And, but my mom was like why why do they have why do you have a stunt double? Like you don't need a stunt double. That's dumb. And then she talked to the stunt coordinator on those and was like he doesn't need 1. He can just do all this stuff for whatever reason.

And then they were like, well, you know, we have them here and we're gonna use them. And then she was like, well, do you ever need kids? And they're like, all the time. You need children or smaller people. Yeah.

Mhmm. Yeah. And then so she just started, like, asked how how I could send my resume out and how you could start, like, building a career as, like, I think I would have been, like, 10 or 11. Wow. And I had to sign a bunch of the letters that my mom, like, made me type out and, like, the standing of my shoulder and then send them in.

And, then I just started, like, getting calls to come work on, like, the TV show here or whatever, like, commercial or something where they just need, like, a kid to do a baseball slide or, like, I I was on the pilot monk and I crashed a skateboard into a garbage can and then I worked on X Men well, I didn't work on it, but I was there at X Men you know, X Men 2 for, like, a week and a half where we were supposed to all get the the Xavier Institute gets, like, attacked. Uh-huh. Yeah. But we're whatever rated and we're all supposed to, like, die and do stuff and we ended up sitting in a trailer for, like, a week and a half playing video games and watching movies and not doing anything and they never used this. Oh.

But we got to, like, go in and, like, check the museum out and say hi to Hugh Jackman man and, like, see Cerebral. I remember seeing that. Oh, right. That was so cool. And then, like, I was like, movies are great.

Like, you just sit around and you play video games in a trailer and you Yeah. Like, watch movies and, like, make friends with all these other people and then you're out of school too. That was, like, a big thing. Yeah. No doubt.

Go to school. Did you have to have tutors on, set? The rules were weird. Oh, okay. You didn't need them unless you broke a certain amount of time away from school.

Oh, okay. Gotcha. So for for the Santa Claus movies we did, we had massive because there was, like, hundreds of elves that were, like, actors of background and so there was, like, this massive schooling Yeah. System, like, it was, like, basically full time school set up and you were there every time you weren't on set because they needed to fulfill, like, a quota of hours. Uh-huh.

Yeah. You had to do school, but, so that was your avenue in the stone. When I started and then, you know, just went to high school and stuff and occasionally we get pulled out to do, like, a scary movie for, like, a commercial or something. You know, didn't really think too much of it until I went to university and, like, realized that sucks for me. So they just started Nice.

Thinking, like, I can do that again. That was fun. Cool. That's an awesome awesome avenue. And you got to meet huge huge Jackedman.

He should change his name to huge Jackedman. I still remember the trail He's not big. He's not very big. He's not a huge guy. Yeah.

For He's jacked, but he's not big. I remember the first trailer I ever saw him in was Cate and Leopold, I think. And I saw the trailer for that. Yeah. And when they said, like, and introducing Hugh Jackman.

And I was like, that's not a real name. That can't be a real name. That's not his name. Hugh Jackman? Yeah.

Come on. And now he's everywhere. Not even possible. How would you have, like, rate did a friend suggest it? Like, how would you have rated it?

It was actually a boss. I I remember he was, like, go watch this and then, like, a couple of, like, stunt classics like, like the Hal Nida movies that we used to, like, Bullet instead, Cannonball Run, and things like that. They were, like, go that. And then he was, like, oh, here's a new 1 that you should go watch that. And then, like, Man from Nowhere was another 1 that you should go watch which is like, has like a crazy fight scene at the end that's like, it feels like it lasts forever.

It's like 20 Okay. Long. This 1 was like well on the list of ones that you just need to go watch and this is what is gonna be expected of you. If you're gonna be good, if you're gonna be great. Okay.

Yeah. And when That's how that came. When you watched it, what would you have said your ranking would be when you first saw it? I really liked it. It didn't waste too much time.

Yeah. It got into it right away. Four, four and a half at that time. Sure. High school.

The first time I watched it Yeah. I was like, I was into it. It was definitely like, oh, I wanna be doing that stuff out of all of the, like, stunts I saw. And I was like a big James Bond fan, but like, I wasn't, like, oh, here's the pinnacle of punching. The, like, cross face, like, Roger Moore.

The old Roger Moore? Yeah. And, like, he was my favorite. I loved him, but, like, I was, like, that's not the stunts I wanna do. Yeah.

Like, I just I just loved him. He was funny. Right. But When you watch View 2 Akhil, it's clearly, like, a 50 year old man 59 year old man, like, and, like, sitting down and, like, having a gin. Almost, like, there was a you could hear the wind from that punch.

I'm almost sure through the mic. Paul? I watched this movie pretty early on as well, like, pretty shortly after the, like, blue US Blu ray release. So sometime probably in, like, 02/12 or '13. And I have a pretty deep passion for action movies and had watched some, like, I'd watched Brotherhood of the Wolf.

Man, I don't know. A book Game of Death and a bunch of different Hard Boiled, The Killer, all sorts of international police stories, 1 of my favorites. Yeah. Action movies and a buddy of mine was like, this is a fucking game changer. You gotta watch this.

Yeah. And I was like, oh, holy shit. Well, fucking hammer meet nail. Like, yeah. This movie's great.

At that time for me by the way, this was my second time ever seeing this movie, this this recent watch. But that first watch, that was 4, fluorescent lights for me. Mhmm. Mhmm. Because in case anybody forgot and you didn't know what this podcast was about, it's about survival and combat.

Mhmm. And everything is a weapon. Yeah. This movie does not forget that. Yeah.

My turn. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to pinpoint what exactly inspired me to watch this and I I, like, texted some of my friends from college. I was like, hey.

Did we watch the raid together? And they're like, no. I was already in New York. I didn't I was like, yeah. Because we've all took stage combat together with our our teacher who's passed, Bob McDougall, and he was, like, a trained martial artist.

And, like, he would always tell us what to want. Like, he'd be like, go watch this. Go watch this. Go watch this. Go watch this.

And I felt like this was post college. It was way post college for me, but I felt like that was my connection somehow. And I still can't exactly pinpoint it and I can't call or text Bob because he's dead. But I think Bob had recommended this movie to me and I think I rented it from Netflix, in the mail. I think, like, around the time that it came out for US release.

Mhmm. And I fucking ate it up. I just loved it. Yeah. I would have given it probably 4 bloodless machetes.

4 wiped clean machetes. That moment is so fucking cool. Yeah. Damn it. I still love that.

Ben Yes. Would you be so kind as to tell us some things about this movie? Sure. Can I This movie The Raid? Can I have my documents, please?

You You may. Thank you. The Raid question mark? Or is that The Raid? Redemption?

Yeah. So Sony Pictures classic stage 6 films x y z was rated it was released in 2011 rated r, hard r. And it is a brisk hour forty minutes. And it's very well executed in that time frame, I feel like. The budget for this movie was only 110,000,0.0.

Adjusted, that's only 150,000,0.0. Ben gets to say that because he has many, many more millions than that. Me. Only 110,000,0.0. Million what?

Friends. Oh, thanks. Opening weekend in US and Canada March Twenty Fifth Twenty Twelve, made 214,000 adjusted. That's 293,000. Final gross North America, 4 Point 1 Million, adjusted 5.6.

Final gross worldwide, 910,000,0.0, adjusted 1,2.4. That is a steep, increase in profit. Yeah. That's a pretty pretty pretty healthy margin. And for people who don't know, which I imagine if you listen to this podcast, you would, $110,000,0.0 movie is unheard of.

That barely exists. Unheard of. Not at this level of quality. Other releases this weekend, The Hunger Games, weekend top 5, The Hunger Games, 21 Jump Street, Doctor Seuss' The Lorax, John Carter slash John Carter of Mars Question mark? Which I think was, like, $300,000,000 after after marketing or something like that.

Huge That movie. That movie tanks. Failures. Yeah. Yeah.

Brad Bird. Right? Was that a Brad Bird directed movie? That was the first time they gave him a live action movie. He did that and Tomorrowland were, like, boom boom.

Both tanked. Oh, yeah. But he also did but he also did, Rogue Nation I haven't done that. Mission Impossible. Which is great.

Which is great. Iron Giant is great. He worked on Tomorrowland. Is there a set? Yeah.

I just did rehearsals for it. Okay. And then never actually did it. But it that was the 1 that shot in Vancouver and it was like big. It looked big and it looked looks cool and like looked pretty like when Yeah.

When he visited stuff and It's fucking Brad Bird. Brad Bird makes great moves. I feel like he transitioned and he didn't transition into live action very well. I I do think Rogue Nation is great. I mean, Incredibles.

Both of those are good. Yeah. Iron Giants Rogue Nation pretty special. Is. Yeah.

Yeah. Iron Giants. So sad. Pretty Such a good movie. Yeah.

Act of Valor was another 1 and this movie was twenty fifth in the weekend releases. Top 5 films this year are global. The Avengers, Skyfall, The Dark Knight Rises, The Hobbit, An Unexpected Trilogy. Oh, yeah. Because it's like very funny ebook.

So you'll see that there's 3 movies. Fuck you. Matt, there's decorations all over here. It's because, it was just my wife's birthday and we did a Lord of the Rings themed, birthday. Amazing.

During the party and then afterwards Two hours? We no. We watched all of them. Jess and I did. And then we finished this we did the extended cuts.

Yep. I mean, it's I feel like in our household, it's illegal to watch Right. Theatrical. I was, like I finished, Return of the King, and it was like, do you wanna watch The Hobbit? And I was bummed Jess had gone to work, and I was, like, doing background stuff, like, doing work.

I was like, alright. I'll put it on put it on the background. And it was, like, such a like, just a stark contrast in quality. Oh, wow. I mean, when you go right into it in particular, I would be seeing I'd be very cute.

Do you know do you know the story how that it was supposed to be Guillermo del Toro? Yes. I'm so curious what that would have been. I can't I remember hearing that he left. Yeah.

Because I can't remember if they had started shooting or if they I don't think they did. Or if they're still in production. I feel like it was in preproduction. Had to rush it. Yeah.

And I feel like if del Toro did it, he wouldn't have done 3 movies. Maybe that was maybe the problem. Yeah. I feel like The studio. Part of the deal.

Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. Yeah. Really quickly without thinking, favorite Lord of the Rings, the Peter Jackson, favorite Lord of the Rings.

Of those 3? Yeah. Mine is a for sure 2 and Stone would would be so mad at me for saying that. I'm Two Towers as well. So now Dom and I are not on the same team.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure mine might be Fellowship. His would be Fellowship. Fellowship is really good. Yeah.

Fellowship is like the best complete story. But I just have I don't know something about I mean, I love them all. Yeah. Nobody almost ever says Return of the King. And to me, that's always the thing.

It's like, yeah, but it won the Oscar. Yeah. But it was a It's very good. It's a good completion to the Yeah. To the story arc.

Films of note from 2012, Savages, Contraband, Chronicle, like Chronicle, Cloud Atlas, 0 Dark 30, Resident Evil Retribution, Battleship, oof, Roadhouse was Roadhouse was released in 1989. Oh, that's too bad. Chronicle though, because being from Seattle Yeah. Was 1 of those movies I loved but so clearly not shot in Seattle. It's shot in wasn't it shot in Africa?

Chronicle, like the movie with like, Michael b Jordan and like Yeah. Dane DeHaan. Dane DeHaan. Yeah. Was it shot in Canada?

I think it was. It's shot in Vancouver. Yeah. My Vancouver. Wait.

What? There's only there's only a couple moments where they, like, clearly were on some another film unit went there and got some, like, exteriors. That's so lame. And there's 1 where they're in a car, and it's driving down, Denny in from the from the from the shot where we're looking at the car. But then they show them inside the car, and it's so clearly not Seattle.

And as someone from Seattle, I'm getting so sick of seeing Vancouver as Seattle. Oh. Just because I'm like, fucking Christ, people. Like, Seattle doesn't look anything like Vancouver. Well, we're not worried about Seattle.

Guy and that's it. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Vancouver. Mhmm. Yeah.

Vancouver? Vancouver's film industry. Vancouver. Vancouver? Vancouver.

Seattle, we're like Vancouver shoes. Oh, yeah? What does that mean? We're underneath them. Oh, you're above them though.

What do you mean? You're in the middle. Oh, I see what you're saying. I'm talking about the better Vancouver. We're like your hat.

Yeah. But this is brought to us by Vancouver. We're like both Vancouver's shoes and its hat. Mhmm. I'm done having this conversation.

I'm gonna go do some meth. We're a shat. Letterbox average for this movie is 4 o. Follow me on Letterbox. I'm at Run B And C.

I'm at Paul X badly. Matt, do you have a Letterbox? No. I don't. That's great.

Don't worry about it. Rotten Tomatoes, eighty seven percent. The Guardian gave it 5 out of 5 stars. Hey. And then major wins and nominations, it was a South by Southwest audience award nominee.

Should've won a lot more. Yeah. Paul, tell us about some people and I hope you pronounce all their names correctly. Oh, shit. Director was Gareth Evans.

He directed the sequel to this film, The Raid 2. He directed a segment in VHS 2. Safe Haven is the name of that segment. And Apostle for Netflix. Writer, wouldn't you guess it?

It's Gareth Evans. Oh, wow. He wrote, Merento, Footsteps, Gangs of London. That's TV. By the way, like our Left to Right 1 in episode, there may be some pretty graphic mispronunciations that occur.

We'll do the very possible best that I can. Director of photography is Matt Flannery. He did Westworld, the TV version, not the Michael Crichton version. You know what else Michael Crichton did, not just Westworld? Jurassic Park?

Congo. He didn't direct it with Congo. Nobody wrote it. Well, yeah. And then we wanna go through all the things Michael Crichton wrote.

We'll be here. The Sphero to Strain? Sphere. All day long. Timeline.

Oh, man. Oh, what a disappointing movie. Time line. That book is so good. And then that Paul Walker movie came out.

I was so Forget about it, because. What? Forget about it, because. You're Paul Walker right now? Forget about it, because.

Is it is that what he sounds like? I don't remember. He says it in 2 Fast 2 Furious. Oh, in 2 Fast 2 Furious, I was like, I don't remember him saying that. He does.

But he I said forget about it, because Director of photography was also Dimas Imam Supono, Killer Express. Music is Mike Shinoda from The US version. He, was a member of Lincoln Park as well as Fort Minor. And Joseph Trapanese, Oblivion. Producers, Todd Brown, The Void.

Has anyone seen The Void? No. No. Solid effects driven, trapped in an area, can't get out, weird shit happening horror movie. Solid movie.

Oh, I think I've heard of it. And Nate Belotin. Mandy. You know, that Nicholas Cage movie. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You helped me out with this. Yeah.

Iku Uwais. Played Rama. He was in Snake Eyes colon GI Joe origins. Later titled just Snake Eyes. Everybody's Did you change titles?

It's just called Snake Eyes now according to IMDB. Were they did you really? Yeah. I mean, the big the opening sword fight like that, they fight 2 people fight like a thousand of us. So there's like Henry Golding plays And, and, Andrew Koji.

Yeah. And, they fought us. I mean, like, the collect there's, like, every Asian stunt performer in Vancouver. Plus, like, I was up from Vancouver South. Yeah.

I was Yeah. Yeah. I came out for that. And then, like, few people out from, like, Toronto or, like, Edmonton and stuff. Just like every Asian they could get their hands on.

Was Ray Park in that 1 also? Or just the first one? I can't I just I am mildly I love Dodge Mall. I have a mild reproduction. This was, like, totally This was new.

Nothing to do with. This was fairly newer. It was because he was in the first two, wasn't it? I don't know. I think it did have nothing to do with Yeah.

They're completely separate. The Rock slash Brennan Frasier. Slash Bruce Willis slash Channing Tatum slash Those ones were a while ago. But also filmed I think I think those 1 of them, at least 1 of them also filmed like, really, way before my time. Oh, okay.

I wanted to make a live action of the GI Joe viral cartoons that used to be on the Internet. Body massage. Oh, remember when they replaced the voice? Yeah. Yeah.

The key. My favorite Give them the stick. Don't give them the stick. My favorite 1. Woah.

I used to lose my shit at the 1 where it's just a shot of a kid going, hey mom and dad, come look at this. Oh, shit. Just falls off a cliff and it goes, goes GI Joe. And that's it. Pork chop sandwiches.

Get the fuck out of here. That's maybe my favorite. I do love pork chop sandwiches. Not actually myself. Oh, Joe Taslim played Jakka, Fast and Furious 6, Star Trek Beyond, Mortal Kombat 2021.

He was Sub Zero. Sub Zero. Very sweet. They made Sub Zero the villain in that. Oh, yeah.

I like that. I actually like that. I didn't love the movie. I it was fun. It was fun to watch.

Good martial arts stuff, etcetera. Dani Alamcia, Andy The Raid 2 VHS '94, Mad Dog Star Wars Episode 7, John Wick Chapter 3 Parabellum, as Ben had mentioned, and a movie called Hit and Run, Pierre Grunau, Huayu, True Heart, Go 8 Wedding Partner, Rey Saitapi, Tama, Crazy Love, Runway, Make Money, and Tagar, Sat man. I just feel like I should have, like, looked up everybody's name and Yeah. Maybe you should have more respectful. Yeah.

But we didn't do that already for the Denmark One, so Tagar, Sitaria, Bowo, The Raid 2, Clandestine, My Nerd Girl. That's a TV show. Matt's got some facts for y'all. If you have things that are not 1 of those 3, feel free to Unless it's like an entire history lesson on the real estate of the location where it was shot, which is what my brother did. Did Frank Thomas owned that corn?

That's Frank Thomas. We just couldn't we didn't feel the dreams and my brother went into it, like, just kept talking about, like, the legal like, the acreage of these 2 farms and, like, we're just, like, sitting there, like, okay. This is all fascinating. Even I said even I I said, oh, the Thompsons of Thompson Insurance? And he was like, no.

Yeah. And he just kept it on me. And he's probably gonna listen to this. So we love you. We love you for the research.

Yeah. Yeah. Dude, he nailed it. Yeah. So, in this movie, they used all airsoft replica guns, not functioning firearms like ones without the actions like the gas guns.

They did not use those. So all the shots and gun cycling actions, muzzle flashes, casing ejections were added in post, added digitally. So great for safety. Yeah. Yeah.

And something we can keep doing Yeah. Maybe. I actually don't know if that would keep cost down, to be honest. Because there's a CG on the because on the back end in post. But still, they got most companies have money to do that.

Your insurance is probably less. Safer. Yeah. I worked on the first two. I thought it was the most recent 1, the first one.

Yeah. And we use, like, all blanks for everything. And, like, he didn't want. There's levels of blanks. There's a quarter, half, full.

Usually you don't use full because you can still if I like shot a blank at you from here and there's a full load, you you like Go deaf. You feel it. Yeah. Yeah. You feel an impact on your face.

Oh, wow. And like, so we were mostly using halves or quarters, but like, they said that the the armor said that their budget, and we were like not that deep into shooting, like maybe three months out of like the nine. And they said It was a nine month shoot? Something like that. A whole shoot.

With prep and everything like Okay. But still. It was it was a big movie. Yeah. But they said that their ammo budget was at half a million dollars at that point.

For half loads? Yeah. That's insane. Yeah. Just just bullets.

Yeah. Like, what about the guns? Just the blanks. Just the That's insane. People making the bullets and the bullet cover.

Way to go David Ayer. Way to go. Yeah. That it was that was such an ambitious movie. I, like, it was so fun to work on.

It was ambitious. Regardless of Yes. Whatever Whatever the studios did. Yeah. Yeah.

It was fun. Oh, yeah. This movie, like, popularized a lot too. Pensac a lot. I actually didn't know there was a specific style for it.

But it's like the indigenous fighting style of Indonesia. Lots of like wraps and cloths that you have and like wrap around people's joints to pull and trap and stuff. It's really cool. It's not something that you see too much of. It's a, you know, a different style.

It's like something that they really got out there that nobody knew about now. But It's so different. Much more common. Mhmm. Or at least like used in the stunt realm.

But like, you know, when you have people with articles of clothing or whatever they're trying to use like a scarf or something like that. Like now, you'll bring in somebody or somebody will know stuff like traps and things to use and it's really, I think I think a lot of it came from this movie possibly. Sure. Sure. Yeah.

Or it became like well much more known. Uh-huh. And then this 1 they say, Iko uses, that the character of Sam Sama? Sawa? Sama, the main character Yeah.

Uses exclusively, Selah, but I think everybody else uses, like, a variety of of stuff. Different disciplines? Different disciplines. Yeah. And then this 1 was shot using the Panasonic high definition AF 100 camcorder on digital rather than, like, steady cams loaded with film.

And this like high powered small camera was attached or just like a handheld mostly which gives it that like that that ability to like rip around corners Yeah. Like get in tight on action without like, you know, a lot of this was in a hallway. A lot of this was in a small room or whatever. Like, you can You can't have a whole crew in there. Yeah.

You can't be holding, like, a Alexa with, like, film Right. Not rolling in it and, like, get a lot of the stuff. Like, when they 1 of my favorite shots is when they come in, like, up the wall. Uh-huh. Like, sorry, up through the roof.

And they're, like, going down into it, and they follow the guy down. And you're, like so they had a camera guy jump through. And you saw the size of the hole, so you knew it had to be, like, a certain size. And they dropped them in, and they, like, kept shooting around underneath. And you're, like Yeah.

Oh, that's Brave. That's a that's a stunt person's idea. I I wanted twenty eight Days Later almost to be I I felt a little Danny Boyle through this movie, which is a a compliment. Uh-huh. But I I wish that twenty eight Days Later had the creativity, like, where it's, like, necessity is the mother of invention, like, almost the lack of budget even from that.

Where that movie would almost be too scary if it were shot like this movie, though. For me, anyway. Yeah. And I I just thought they did, like, such creative work with the camera, like Oh, absolutely. Maximized it.

It felt very, like, so we'll do a lot of, pre visits for stunts. And a lot Of course. You'll basically show the action. And depending on what, like, what level of budget you have or, like, what the director wants or what the second unit director wants or what the stunt coordinator is, like, offering, it's all different levels of stuff. Like, sometimes it's more rare now.

This used to be the case where you just, like, reference shoot everything so that they just saw all of the action that was designed, and then the director would decide where he wants to put everything. But nowadays, for the most part, you'll, like, be right in there and you'll, like, show him what punches and kicks and what traps sell from what angles and, like, how you'd you'd set it up and you, like, cut it all together and then put it at the Mhmm. And he'll change what he wants to change or she'll change whatever she wants to change kind of thing. Yeah. Then they'll he or she will have notes and be like, oh, okay.

So, like, I wanna do this differently on the day and I wanna do this differently on the day. Sometimes you'll reshoot the previous, sometimes they'll just like, oh, this felt like they had as much fun as we'll have, like, finding those angles of, like, what works What looks cool. And just gritty and, like, Paul Greengrass, like, a little bit. Yes. A little bit of a Sunday.

But not, like And bored. Full. Yeah. I can't tell what's going on anymore. Absolutely.

Yeah. I was thinking, like, while watching this in a world where, like, everyone watches Daredevil and is, like, so excited for the hallway fight. This is just a movie of hallway fight. I I Ben, I love that you said that because I was thinking the same thing as I was watching this. I was like, fuck.

What else is, like, Gareth Evans done? I know there's other things. And it's like, no. Wait. That's Gareth Edwards.

No. Wait. That was Yeah. The and I'm like, oh, I'm getting these people mixed up. But, like, it actually inspired me to almost be like, fuck.

I kinda now I wanna watch the first, like, season or two of Daredevil again because it's Did he work on that? Or it's just in Spider Man? And that was the thing. It was like Drew Goddard, I think, was the show. Right?

Yeah. He's all his style is all over so many things. It, like, bums me out that it hasn't worked more. I feel like this little movie had such a huge ripple effect into, as you were saying, stunts and fights, but also just, like, cinema and, like, what people want when they see fights in in anything now, you know? Yeah.

At least most people. Mhmm. Well, this episode was brought to us by what? Vancouver. Vancouver, clearly.

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You never know which one's which. No, you do. The only one's in Canada. Did we gonna ask Matt what the log line is? But, Matt, before we go, what is the log line of this film?

I You just make it up. Oh, the log line. You don't have to be correct. I don't know. What do you I feel like it would be like something like I mean, it's redemption, isn't it?

Because that's what the colon But like what It's very fair. The little like the little like synopsis they might put in like the top of INDB. Like the 1 sentence synopsis. I mean, you have up to 3. That's fine.

If you do more than 3, we have to ask you to leave. Like floor by floor. Justice. I that's actually, like, I'm kind of into that. Can I take a guess?

Can I take can I take a stab? Take a pull out of it. Take 30 stabs. I was saying Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A, SWAT team is trapped in a building with mobsters or gangsters.

It's it's almost like you've read it before. What is it? You're killing it. A SWAT team becomes trapped in a becomes trapped in a tenement run by a ruthless mobster and his army of killers and thugs. Let's not forget, like, the spotters.

Mhmm. And children and thugs. And the general drug addicts. Yeah. And and then just the family That's what's wonderful about.

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I have to open 1 in Vancouver. Hold on. Not your Vancouver. Matt, favorite place to eat in Vancouver? Canada.

Oh. Okay. You know what? My favorite restaurant, it's kinda changed because I really love this Mongolian rest this Mongolian barbecue restaurant that used to be in Vancouver, but then a fire happened, and then they, like, brought it back, and then they moved and sold and changed owners. And I still go back to this new changed owners place, but, like, it's a little bit different, but it, like, still reminds me of the old 1.

So it's not because it's such a great place anymore, but mostly because it reminds me of when it was the best place in the world by a mile. Sure. But this place called Mongolian Barbecue, that's, that's theirs. It's more of a nostalgia, draw for you. Yeah.

It's still good. Like, it's still really great. But And in Vancouver, Washington Mhmm. There's an Irish restaurant on Highway 99 called McDonald's. And there's a gentleman outside that will sell you ice.

And I'm not talking about ice cubes. I'm talking about the drug of ice. Now that we're back and you're ready to visit Vancouver, Washington because you hear how beautiful it is. I'm not surprised there's just 1 person selling ice. There's a meth guy.

There's an ice guy. There's a black dude heroin guy. They have their own Burger King has a guy. Arby's has a guy. Wendy's has a guy.

There's a guy that's Molly. Have Sonic? No. No. No.

No. In Vancouver, Washington, they can't afford that. No. No. No.

Oh, is that a is that They have it in Spokane, Washington. Rich people thing? I I don't I don't know. No. But rich to have Sonic.

They can only have Arby's. But Sonic is a is a Washington based chain. Right? Like, I don't know if it is or no? They do have it in Spokane, but they don't have it in Seattle.

Only in Eastern Washington is some Yeah. There's not in Seattle. I for some reason, I thought it was like We have dicks in Seattle. West. Mhmm.

You can get a bag of dicks. Yeah. Dicks drive through. Yeah. Aster makes a lot about that 1.

Big bag of greasy dicks. He'll tell you. Matt, I'm gonna hand this to you. Okay. It is Oh.

In a file box. Is going to remove a card. Any any sign? Any card you'd like. Alright.

He's gonna tell us what actor is on that card. This is this 1 will be fun. Alright. I think. You get a freebie there.

So you get to take the freebie and then we'll go around the horn. But I I say the To the actor. Yeah. And then you and me. This is actually pretty tough.

We're going that way? Clockwise? Yeah. Okay. This one's tough.

Sound good? Alright. Let's try. It should be fun. Design.

This one's Sharon Stone. Oh. And the first one is casino. Okay. Alright.

I just had it and it lost I just it just fell out of my brain. The, you know, the, basic instinct. Okay. Above the law. That was the only 1 I was doing.

Did you see what I was doing? Scissor? Scissor me timbers? Scissor chair change. That was the only 1 that I had so I'm already out of bed.

Oh, no. I'm sure there's more when I do it but I'm like really bad pressure. Yeah. Hey, that's okay. We freeze all we talked about this.

We freeze all the time. Matt, you just watched the raid. Mhmm. How do you feel about it now? Current ranking.

I I liked it again. I liked it at the same level. Weird. I liked it. Yeah.

Weird stuff. I don't think it really changed. So is it was it 4 or 4.5 for you? I like to get I'll give it a 4.5 just because it, like Rock and roll. It was the, like, action movie equivalent of, like, an efficient script for me.

Like, they always talk to me and Yeah. Me and my fiance say that like ghost doesn't waste a line or a sentence in its script. Like, it's 1 of those movies that like there's nothing like everything comes back or ties together. Swayze ghost. Yeah.

I haven't seen it in a million years. Like try and watch it again and like nothing is wasted. Okay. There's just a time. It is Whoopi Goldberg's birthday.

Is it today? It is. Oh, wow. Did she she won she won She did. An Oscar for that movie.

Yeah. For supporting. It's been a while since I've seen it. Man, I know her. This is like the Indonesian action equivalent of, like, it doesn't waste a second.

Like, everything is like some character moment or some Mhmm. Yeah. Like, something pushing the story along. And it jumps in fast too. So I always appreciate that.

I think it's the same for me. Cool. 4.5. Yeah. 4.5 neck slices.

Nice. There's a few of those. A little bit. Yeah. I felt this movie fucking slaps, and it slaps fucking hard.

Yeah. I felt like, kind of what you're saying, it doesn't waste a moment. I'm a sucker for simple simplicity. You know, we've like we've gotten to these arguments like about Alien like the simplicity of that script. Die Hard.

The simplicity of Die Hard. And this movie is just so simple. It doesn't take a lot of time and take a lot of setup. It just is and it just keeps going. So I went up a half point.

So I'm I am sitting at 4.5 bloodless machetes. Okay. So it all hinges on me here. This being the second time I've seen it ever and also right now being the thick of playing a Resident Evil movie, it even some of the sound of Resident Evil game. Holy oh, thank you.

God. It's like playing through. Really unpleasant universe. The film universe. So playing a Resident Evil game and feeling that in this movie, not only some of the sound effects and transitions feel kind of like a video game, maybe not Resident Evil specifically.

But, like, that each floor, what have you, is like a different level or different little bosses or whatnot. And and like you both said, like, there's very little to trim out of this movie. And so many things are communicated so simply and so quickly with a look or it's like the very first part of the movie that we're about to get into. You see his wife is pregnant. I'm gonna bring him back.

He says to his dad, and you're like, who the fuck is what? And then we're going. Yeah. And the movie just doesn't fuck around. So, as a big fan of the let's not fuck around and let's make this an hour forty five or less, this is 4 and a half fluorescent tube light bulbs for me.

That half 1 is used later in the movie. As you guessed in Yeah. A weapon. Yeah. Let's just jump right into the top of the movie.

Let's roll. And you kind of brought it up. Yeah. You it's we get the main character. It's wow.

Already? Get it together. Rama. Counselor. Yeah.

It was Rama. I think I said Sama earlier. We're we're we do this. We we do our best. Vin Kilmer was on and I fucked up his name.

Sorry, Val Val Diesel. Oh, Val. You know, I was actually thinking about this and it Vancouver. I feel like the the this Vin Diesel, Val Kilmer thing we have going is a real Are you talking about it? Is a real insult to to Val Kilmer, in my opinion.

Because Val Kilmer is so fucking good He's a great actor. And Vin Diesel is a thumb. And so, I think we need to stop. Vin Vin Diesel. Val Kilmer.

Vancouver. Vancouver. And we know which one's which. Yeah. That's actually a great there you go.

Well, yeah. Okay. The joke is it's over. It's retired. Okay.

Let's Out of respect for that. It's retired. By the way, second movie we've done that is subtitled all the way through, you cretins. We are classy. What was the other 1?

Let the right 1 in. Come and play with us, daddy. Honestly, if we did that 1, my score would have gone down because I've rewatched that recently and I've remember thinking it was like an incredible movie and when I rewatched it, I was like, it's pretty slow. We we actually both thought pretty incredible. Oh, really?

Yeah. Yeah. I I love It is slow. It is slow. It is.

The pacing is very plotting and I think in an intentional way and like Yeah. Does it land in every moment? Definitely not. But enough of the time for me. So we meet Rama's dad, very briefly and we get, like, the second set of credits which it's like again, it's just like boom.

Here it is. Mhmm. Credit movie go. Yeah. Rama says bye to everybody and we're in the truck with the whole team, the whole SWAT team.

Rama and Jaka and everybody and we get the breakdown of like and the exposition of here's what we're doing. Yeah. And here's what the building is and who's in the building. Who's what's the old guy? The bat the the guy spoilers.

The lieutenant? Yeah. The guy who ends up being Correct. Wei Yu. What?

That's his name. Okay. Yeah. I I was just curious. I don't remember all their character names.

So No. You're good. Yeah. We're gonna keep the cheat sheet close here today. Yeah.

Wei Yu, Jaka, Rama, everybody, they're going into this building, and they have been told, like, we're going to get this drug dealer, this horrible element out of here, like New Jack City, this whole block, square block has turned into, like, a drug and violence and murder factory. Mhmm. We're gonna shut it down. And is do they when they rapidly encounter the civilian, right? As Yeah.

Right when they raid the building. As they're as they're doing it. But I just wanna touch on 1 thing. Even before that, they were, like, just in there, like, while they're exposition dumping, they have, like, the character moments of a bunch of people in the Somebody shaking. Even the ones they don't even care about and it's, like non verbal.

And then they even have like a little foreshadowing line that threw away that I never noticed until this time. And I've seen it like 4 or 5 at least 4 or 5 times before this. Where he was like, why are we doing it today? And then the other guy says like, why not today? What's wrong with today?

But you realize like, oh, it's because, like, they've never been allowed to go in before because it's whatever, too dangerous or he controls the place or whatever. But you're, like, oh. They're set up. They're set up for Yeah. The later thing of, like, it's not even they're not even supposed to be there today.

Yeah. This isn't happening. Yeah. Technically today or any other day. It's like Dante from Clerks.

I'm not even supposed to be here today. Yeah. But when they're raiding the building Yeah. So they all we get the exposition of everything that's going on and the SWAT team gets out and they, like, make quick work of a bunch of, like, the guards and sentries that are outside. Like, that shot that kinda reminds me of Leon the professional where Coming out from the darkness.

The zip line comes out from the darkness and they get that guy. It's fucking great. It made me think and, like, again, coming back to simplicity of this, how awesome having, like, a Batman movie just set in, like, 1 building would be. Oh, okay. Just, like, a movie, you know, where you just, like, 1 moment, 1 mission and how intense it is.

Was it 1 of the Batman Arkham games like that? It was all I mean, Arkham Asylum, the first one is all The first one. Is all in Arkham Asylum. Yeah. They get bigger as it goes.

Yeah. Right. Okay. But yeah. I like, that was such a great shot, the darkness coming out and, like, taking that guy out quickly.

And, yeah, and then they can counter the civilian. Right? Yeah. He's gonna get he's gotta get to medicine to his wife on the side. And so we kinda learned that this building is multipurposeful and, obviously, like, there are people in it who are, whatever, protected or have to pay to this gang.

Who else in who else in here? Like, who are the groups in the in the building? Well, they're all just 1 big group. Right? Are is it all just 1 big organization?

It's just 1 big gang. Right? It's like yeah. I think it was like, whatever. The guy owns some giant building and 80% of it is, you know, the meth lab or whatever is in there and the his gang, housing his gang people and, like, all of the illegal things, the activity that they have.

But then, like, just pay rent. Okay. Yeah. Cheap. Yeah.

And they probably pay rent to that guy. Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure.

Yeah. What I love, like, in this movie, like, we see in, like, New Jack City and other movies that, like, try to give you a kind of, like, a realistic look at how some of this stuff works in terms of like drug manufacturing and drug trade is that they have child spotters Mhmm. Yeah. In the building because that's like common practice Yeah. In the situation.

So like the SWAT team is going up floor by floor like And they're planning it seems like they're planning to go in super quiet, super stealth. Very stealthy. And it's like that time in playing Arkham where you're like, oh, I'm gonna take his house super stealthy and then, you know, you just accidentally shoot a kid. Call your friend little kid. Yeah.

And, everything goes haywire. Like you do? Don't shoot him early enough. Because all your friend little Kean I mean, cut that's a big idea. Yeah.

They were like, this movie Trying to like, what are they gonna do? Just go tackle him? I didn't know what their plan was there. Yeah. Were they gonna beckon him over?

Like, that's what I assume, like, they're gonna be like, come here. But, like, of course, it was gonna come to them. It seemed like Rama didn't wanna kill anybody. Right. And this NYU was like, fucking, I'm gonna kill that kid, but shot him way too late.

Well, and like YU, like, seems to kinda wanna go, like, scorched earth to whatever degree. Well, I mean, spoilers. Right? Because he's corrupt. And is yeah.

TriNet I think he has a debt, I believe. Is that the deal? Or has I think so. Or somebody either way, he needs to get rid of the King Drug lords. Yeah.

The situation. Because he wants to replace him or be promoted or some sort of some such. This is the thing is as I was doing some research about this movie, a lot of people or a lot of reviews are like, there's no plot. And it's like, no, there is a plot to this movie if you're listening, if, like, paying attention. You just have to read it.

Yeah. Kind of. Which I normally only recognize logos. We know that. But, like, the child spotter thing and then, like, from there, we're less than twenty minutes into the movie, and it's like the stairwell shootout.

Yeah. I do love the moment because it's it it's so understated, the moment where the kid just runs in and it hits the intercom. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. It's not like he hits an alarm.

It's not like he he just turns the intercom on. And it just turns on for a second. And the the is it I I think it might be rum or someone else who's just like sitting there breathing or trying to hold their breath and then turns it off. Just that moment of tension of realizing what's happening was I thought was so great. Because you could easily make that a huge moment.

Right? But it's just like so insular and so Yeah. And then they're like Text. Feeling what those guys are like, oh, we let Yeah. Know.

Yeah. Like, now we're here. Now we're fucked. Yeah. It's rare to find a movie that is so fast paced with so much happening that builds tension so well from moment to moment Mhmm.

In my opinion. But you never really know what's gonna happen next. And I really feel like you can find a lot of parallel like, a lot of movies that were inspired by this that, Oh, man. You know, I mean, like, I brought up Dread. Mhmm.

Like, clearly dread. Was dread, like, the next year maybe even or, like, the next year? Year two? What year was dread? I wanna say it was I mean, it was a few years later.

'20 '14? There's no way to know. Well, just say I don't know or not. I think it was 2013. And then the other 1 I was thinking of was, what's the Bong Joon Ho ice the train movie.

Oh. Snowpiercer. Snowpiercer. How they just have to, like, get through these To the top of the screen. We were gonna do this later.

We're gonna knock it out now. If you like this movie, try 1 of the movies we've just mentioned as well as The Rock, Dread, Assault on Precinct 13, Cop Shop, Free Fire, Attack the Block, and depending on what you think, Panic Room. You mean, like, what you think about Empire State Building Climber Jared Leto? What a douchebag. Look.

I like He's got thirty seconds to get to Mars and you know what you do in that thirty seconds? I love panic. Oh, I like panic too. I just I just I just don't like dirt a lot. I love Forest Whitaker.

Yeah. You have thirty seconds to get to Mars. Get your ass to Mars. You got thirty seconds to get there. What are you doing that time?

It's Morbin time. I haven't I didn't see Morbius. I can't see it. I can't see it. I saw it on the plane.

I don't think I can. Did you? Yeah. I'm not I'm not terribly interested. Mhmm.

You buy cops. This I like the introduction to Tama where he's just like fucking killing his own dudes. Mhmm. And talking his own dudes? I think Are they?

So. I think, well, at least some of them are maybe. Maybe. What do you think, Matt? I just thought it was like, oh, here's the guy who's like casually eating cereal and he does this every day, like, this is nothing for him.

Just kills me. It's great. I don't know whether it was his own guys or not, like They just make it clear that he's just, like, a non empathetic, like, non caring, like, narcissistic psychotic person. 2, like, lieutenants, which is Mad Dog and who's his other lieutenant? A bro.

Don. Spoiler. Spoiler. We've been doing it right. Is it No.

It's okay. Yeah. What's his name? Isn't it? I wrote down Andy is his brother right?

No? Oh, that that that sounds right. Yeah. Is it Andy? I think so.

Spoiler, that's Rama's brother. But Yeah. You've hopefully seen the movie if you're listening to this. If not, go watch the movie. Stop.

Yeah. But I can't read. Because anything we say is not gonna be anything near as cool as watching the movie. Yeah. Yeah.

I like the sound. The fight sound. Well, everybody's been getting fucking wiped out. Like, Tama kills his own dudes, a bunch of the cops are getting killed, snipers are killing dudes. They got snipers.

So cool because like, they just look I don't like, something with the costumes in this movie too, like, the Indonesian The SWAT team costumes are fucking awesome. SWAT team costumes were cool and then like the the complete opposite of like just people in like trashy baggy garbage looking like Yeah. Poverty struck wardrobe where they're pulling up snipers and like they don't look professional at all. Yeah. Like, they look like they could handle these guns or like handle whatever they're I don't know.

It just Dude. Like, something about it made me like really feel like I was in the zone. Yeah. When the 1 when the 1 guy goes, no, let him scream. Like the sniper, you're like Oh shit.

You're like, dude these guys killed And he's and he's screaming this guy at least. I mean, he's screaming because it's bringing that other guy to the window, and then it just takes out that other SWAT team. And that dude who's, handcuffed or zip tied, like, the way he, like, gets out from his zip ties Almost like he's double jointed. He may they make it look like really Yeah. Yeah.

And he gets the And he has a fucking machete underneath the table. Introduction of machetes in this movie. Oh my gosh, dude. Now at this point, they're on whatever floor. Sixth Floor That's a great thing.

I don't feel like they ever say do they see They sit on doors. Oh, they say oh, that's right. The door Through out. Yeah. But they're all trapped in this 1 room and That's so good.

Rama has to get an axe and they literally start busting through the floor as they're like, okay. The walls are not gonna work. And they start shooting and busting through the floor. And, Matt, you mentioned, like, the cameraman has, like, this camcorder strapped to him and, like, jumps through the fucking floor. And you go with him.

It's so cool. Yeah. I'm so curious. Do you know anything about since they only, you know, spent a million on this, do you know anything? Like, did they, like, have to did they just rent to buy a building to, like, be able to, like, destroy it?

Or Surely no. I Yeah. I don't know anything about how they how Yeah. I just production of this 1. But, like, that would've been Curious.

There's, like, even in I I don't know. The building stands in Indonesia, but there's no way you can just hatch it through a floor. Yeah. Was it scheduled to be demolished? Or maybe, like, did they partially on a set?

Partially on a set? Yeah. It must have been. Oh, because, like, that is cheap. Right?

Like, you just change the numbers and, like, throw dead bodies over the floor and then you set. Yeah. The hallways, I mean, like, the multiple hallways and the rooms are Yeah. That's not I mean, it's not cheap. I'm not, like Right.

They could use the same the same 1 like 40 It's true. 14 floors or whatever. 15 floors. Just like re put different blood shift Different blood stains, different bodies. Shift stuff around.

Yeah. It's a good point. This is maybe I mean, it's not my favorite part of the movie. Is it pick your favorite fight or pick your favorite, like, crazy moment? It's like, I can't pick my children.

A little cat? Well, you you don't you don't have any. Yes. I do. I mean, you're not rock fucking AI.

The stump I gotta stop doing that. You're not rocking the mustache right now, so you're not a dad. I are Banks and Maggie not real? Oh, sure. I feed them?

Those are cats. I bathe them? I'm also a cat dad. So Yeah. Well, I'm fine.

Matt is also a cat. Yeah. 5. Yeah. He's living the fucking dream, dude.

That is the dream. Live the dream. Just the 1. Yeah. Rudy.

But he's a he's a star. But the fridge getting blown up is so fucking great. Oh my god. I don't know why, like, I'm so okay with that scene and, like, so not okay with the Indiana Jones fridge stuff. But, like It's not the same thing.

I feel like that's not 1 of them 1 of them is a nuclear bomb. The other 1 is It's like a propane tank or whatever. And the other one's Harrison Ford. But I just like the that everybody throughout this movie is, like, everything has some sort of a use. Whether it's a propane tank exploding or a fluorescent light or, like, something being used as a weapon or whatever it might be.

I was I said earlier, like, necessity is the mother of invention. I think that's part of what makes this movie so great is it's done on a shoestring budget Mhmm. And Gareth Evans wrote, directed, edited, and partially choreographed this movie. This guy's wearing 4 fucking hats. That's crazy.

Why does this guy work more? What do I not know? Like, what happened? But that fridge exploding and just, like, the fucking pile of bodies it leaves. Yeah.

We're just And then the machete guys. I feel like the continuity the script supervisor, like, in charge of continuity would have had a tough day for all the bodies and the floor Oh my god. On the ground and the floors and the positions they're in and stuff. Yeah. That's a that's a tough job for that.

But you know what? They fucking gave a shit. Yeah. You get like everybody really cared. Who's his partner?

Is it the guy who gets injured soon? Jaka. Jaka. Okay. Wait.

No. The guy who gets injured soon? Jaka is the captain. Jaka is the guy. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Not the captain, like, not the gray haired Right. Right. Yeah.

But like the other The SWAT team leader. Yeah. Who's the yeah. Who's the guy who gets fuck. I know you're talking about.

Yeah. The 1 yeah. The 1 that That he leaves leaves in the apartment with the civilian. I can't remember his name. Yeah.

Yeah. But he, there there's because now they're split. They're split in 2 groups. Right? Yeah.

Yeah. And they're like, all the bad dudes are, like, stalking the halls and we we find out that there's an undercover brother that's not Eddie Griffin in the movie. Undercover brother. I was in that 1 too. You're an undercover brother?

I used to watch that movie a lot. That's amazing. I, the Go on. Didn't make it. It was in deleted scene.

Is it on the d v is it on the DVD deleted scenes? Yeah. Must it must be because I I never I don't think I was in the like, I don't think my mom let me watch that movie because I would have been, like, 10 or 11. Okay. Yeah.

Because I was in my mid to late forties, fifties. I think that came out when I was in high school. And I hit the Century Club? I used to watch the movie in high school with my friend Andrew. Yeah.

It's not a good movie. I mean, I don't really remember it much. I just He had like an aversion to mayo. Was that the thing? He hated mayonnaise?

I think that was Was Chris Kattan? Or or Somebody did? I mean Somebody in that I can. I know. Eddie Griffin.

Eddie Griffin. Yeah. Thank you. Chris Kattan. Ricky Romano himself.

Deuce Bigalow Male Gigolo? That's Rob Schneider. Yes. Wait, what? Yeah.

No. That's not I get Rob Schneider and Chris Kattan. Chris Kattan is, Night of the Roxbury. Yes. Yes.

I like the dance moves. Uh-huh. Yeah. To remember the name of the movie. When Rama for the citizen, like, on the when they're on the Seventh Floor, he's, like, pounding on the door.

Let me in. Oh, let me in. Let me in. Like And he knows he knows the room number because that's what the guy said right now. Beginning.

Yeah. They no. Nothing really wasted. No. And, like, you can see that tension between him and his wife who's clearly, like, sick.

Stay out of it. And, like, him being, like, but these people will die if I don't do something. Mhmm. And he pulls them in at, like, at the last second. Right?

Because the machete dudes are on their way up. And he has, like, this false wall. He can, like, hide things in. Yeah. And he throws he throws throws them in behind this, like, false wall.

I love when the wall, like, bulges out when they're, like, changing positions. Oh, it's great. Yeah. And then you get that, like, great moment of the machete guys coming in. They're like, is it you're hiding people?

And he's like, no. He puts me in a bad mood or whatever he says. He's lying puts me in a bad mood. And he's like, prove it. And he just starts stabbing this wall with a fucking machete.

Like a fucking maniac. And the last thing he does is stabs it and it it just like shoves it in and we see it's just like sliced Rama's cheek. And the meanwhile, his partner is, like, agonizing in pain, just wants to shout. Yeah. And this fucking blade is just sitting in his cheek, which is so great.

And the tension there Shouts to the makeup department of this movie real quick. We're realizing as the audience, oh, shit. If he pulls that out, there's gonna be blood on it. We're realizing at the same time that Rama's realizing it. But he also and the dude walks away, leaves the machete in the wall.

Ugh. And he has this, like, the, like, like, last second thing he does is he's wearing these, like, fingerless gloves and just pulls puts it on the blade. And right when the blade's pulled out, you can just see the blood get wiped into the glove. And it's so fucking well done. Yeah.

The tension is so strong and, like, you can see the dude walk out with a blunpless machete. It's I think it's very difficult to That's my favorite moment in the movie. Yeah. I I think it probably is mine too, ultimately. I I think it's really difficult to execute a movie that's supposed to essentially take place in real time that doesn't give you a ton of context or backstory.

And you're very pleased with the story beats, the character beats, like, it's well built, you know who's who, what's what. Yeah. This movie does all that shit basically for me as I've stumbled around like who's who or what's what a bit in this. But also, like, I felt like I was right there for everything and without getting all that fucking exposition shoved down my throat, got everything I needed. Mhmm.

And I feel like and we're gonna as as we're going on and we've kinda spoiled this already, but, like, constantly, right, you you come back and you go, okay. But this is all cool and all. These moments are all cool. This action's all cool. But, like, what's the character?

Like, what what's the character driven piece of this? Why why do I care so much about this individual person that we're following? And we learned that his brother has become, like, this mob lieutenant, which is so well, like, layered into the movie. And then you can immediately get that familiar personal connection, you know. And it just, I feel like just really ties the room together.

Yeah. The rug the rug really ties the room. Yeah. These, like, particularly that I think we might have skipped over the his first fight, like, the first fight that he particularly that I think we might have skipped over the his first fight, like, the first fight that you see Rama do. Yeah.

Because it happens before the machete game, but after Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see it. Yeah.

Yeah. And then I remember watching that and being like, oh, it's not as brutal as I remember. And then I was like, oh, this must really ramp hard. Yeah. That's the thing is I think this movie really, like, leans into and celebrates the arts of Narder's not also.

Not only the martial sciences and martial arts, but also, like, the art of fucking choreography and stunt work. So much stuff is done, like, kind of almost obviously without wires just to kinda be like, hey. We can do this. Yeah. Like, it's like approve it almost.

It's kind of fucking rad, but you learn that Rama's brother is actually 1 of the lieutenants. Yeah. He does the, precursor to the Captain America elevator fights much much faster, and more brutal. I love that fight though Yeah. In Captain America too.

Oh, it's fucking great. Yeah. But Rama ends up getting in yet another fight. And as you were saying, like, this is where the brutal brutality ramps up, Matt, where he fucking jumps backward and pulls that guy's neck onto the broken jagged broken door frame. So may I tell a quick story?

Yeah. I don't know. It's your podcast call. You can It's our podcast. And it's and you know what?

We can do whatever the hell we want. I can do whatever the hell I want. Vancouver power hour. Vancouver. Cry.

Unpleasant odors. Well, let's get some meth. Let's get some Welcome to Hudson's Bay High School. Please do not get it confused with the Hudson's Bay Trading Company, also from Canada. We love Canada.

Owned by an American company. It is true. Mhmm. That is very true. But when I was, younger, I was running outside.

Can you believe it? Like just like Tom Cruise? Running outside just like Tom Cruise in in the rain. And underneath a punching bag outside that was hung from a tree, there was a piece of plywood that had, like, swollen and split. And I slipped on that piece of plywood and got a sliver that was about 3 inches long.

I got about 2 inches of it stabbed between my big toe and the next toe, and I had to have it surgically removed. Oh, it was in your foot? It went into my bare foot. I thought it was in your Gonna go in my neck? Or neck because No.

Because of the I I walked inside, and I'm like, mom, is there anything in my foot? And she went, oh my god. And I was like, what? Oh. And, yeah, urgent care trip.

But that reminded me immediately of that because there's nothing like the pain of a piece of, like, jagged, I always I mean, I just fucking just I feel like I say oh fuck or oh shit a lot while I watch, fights. Sure. And it's the thing that I always, like, react the most, like, viscerally to is, like, heads getting slammed into walls. Yeah. And there was a moment I forget which fight it was.

First one. Yeah. One, two Yeah. Three, four, and then the light. Yeah.

The last 1. Yeah. Fucking brilliant. The canister light in the hallway. Right?

The first Yeah. But the first first hit was like, oh, fuck. Yeah. Because I feel like you're not getting up from that. Well, there's a couple of Yeah.

Like, a lot of the time you slow those down to make and then speed them up in the and like. Yeah. Sure. To make them work. But, like, I don't know.

There's something about the rhythm that you lose when you do that and they didn't. And I have tried to replicate, like, pieces of that. Like, they have a really fun rhythm of, like, like, like, I I don't know. This probably happened before, but, like, a lot of the the my favorite fight corners that I'll work for, they'll, like, beat out how they want punches. Like, you have, like, whatever, left hook.

Oh, like the rhythm of it? Yeah. And then kind of, like, you know the beat beats, but the like, that's too beaty. Like, it's too bop bop punch punch kick punch. Oh, sure.

So they'll be like, I want it like, boom. Big wind up smash and like try to block punch punch punch punch. Yeah. And then you like lean it up, like you change the rhythm of it so it feels natural. Yeah.

And these guys did that like crazy crazy good. And in places where, like, it's hard to do it. Like that face smash 1, where you literally hear it go, boom, boom, boom, boom, critic. Yeah. And sometimes, like, I'll watch stuff and it's like very minor.

You don't notice it if unless you're like, really tuned into that kind of stuff. But I'll be like, oh, yeah. I can see it slowed down. Oops. I see it slowed down because it just doesn't feel like the same rhythm that feels like the energy would be in that situation.

But this 1, like, no. I I think they went fast. Like, I think they went fast on it. It was Yeah. I don't have any stunt background but I did, like, stage combat.

Yeah. And, like, I teach sometimes I'll teach stage combat to to, like, high schoolers. I know. Like, unarmed broadsword, rake your dagger, stuff like that. And I I always say stuff like too.

It's like, I'm gonna teach you these moves and you when we first do them, they're gonna be like bump bump bump bump, but it's a conversation. So remember, like, that's not how people talk. So like this moment, bum bum bum bum, this moment slows down. And I I feel like like that exact thing you're saying of in this, they really the rhythms of the fights were so various. Mhmm.

And it really makes you draw it draws you in more than just a sort of like Indiana Jones. I'll as my lord and savior, Harrison Ford, get out of my wife. Get off my wife. You know, those are just, like, classic, like, punch. Punch.

Oh, yeah. Punch. You know, we're not getting much variety in there. Goddamn it. Okay.

I'm not gonna stop doing it. I'm gonna actually do it more. We're gonna change this setup at some point. So that does anyone has anyone ever choreographed combat or anything to music or worked with someone that wants to choreograph those things to music? I'm sure I'm sure people do.

You mean in this room? No. Sure. But have you ever worked on a fight scene or something where a specific song is being used or what have you? I have, but it wasn't like a fight scene.

I worked on, a movie called the Descendants. I think it was the second one or third one maybe. Disney? Yeah. The it was like a musical musical movie.

Yeah. Uh-huh. So it was wasn't really like a fight scene so much as a dance that was that was the fight Yeah. That we had to learn. I was replacing somebody, so I wasn't there the whole time.

But somebody, like, hurt their legs, so they needed a devil. And the actor that was doing it was, like, is, like, an incredible martial arts himself, again, and boo boo Stewart. So they brought me in to double him just in case, but like, he's been rehearsing it for months. Mhmm. He's also like, he would be an incredible stunt performer.

I could fight. So I was like trying to catch up learning new stuff. Yeah. I was like, this is useless, like, you're just gonna use him. I've done that and it was fight to the beats and to the things and the kids were singing and they were all so talented, like, so it was very impressive to watch.

I feel But it didn't feel like a fight, like, nah. So I don't know if that's what you're after. It feels like like memorizing a dance more so. I feel like when you're doing it to music that Yeah. And but and also just like for me, it has made it easier in terms of, like, the precision of exactly when I'm supposed to do what.

Like, I'll remember a vocal cue from something or what have you. Just because, like, I took martial arts, but, like, I'm not super natural, like, with a lot of this stuff. So any assistance I can get. So I was just wondering if anyone else is choreographed to To music. Music or or anything specifically.

I would be curious, you know, because, like, someone someone like Edgar Wright who, you know, has Big needle dropping. Listening to music while he's shooting. Yeah. Mhmm. I'm curious if they, you know, how like, they must choreograph to the songs and have, like, them playing on set.

Well, and this movie, The Raid The Baby Driver. Yeah. Yeah. For example. Yeah.

I wonder. Yeah. The Raid had 5 different composers overall for, like, different people, different markets, etcetera. Mhmm. And the music in this is so good.

Yeah. I would be interested to hear what the original score was. So the Blu ray that I watched had the, like, the Linkin Park, Mike Yeah. Mike, Mike Shinoda. Shinoda version and, like, the the I I assume are the original.

A different 1 that wasn't that. So I watched it with the original music and it it felt like what I'd always seen. So I wasn't sure Okay. Like, maybe I'd never seen the Linkin Park version, but it still, like, has that kind of air of, like, pace pushing, like Right. Almost electro y kind of Yeah.

Sure. On the edge of that. Maybe that's not the right word. I'm not the best music. It it no.

It is Non room. You mean, like, Elektra? The sequel to Yeah. Daredevil? Electric Nachos?

Yeah. Jennifer Garner. That's her name in the movie. Right? Zekerer's Electric Nachos?

What? Isn't her name Elektra Nachos in the movie? Her name is Elektra. What are you talking about? Elektra Nachos?

That doesn't make sense. Paul. Her name is Electra Nachos. Also she's first First time you see the movie it almost sounds like she says, my name is Electra Nachos. And you're like, I'm sorry.

What? Oh. I didn't know that was her character's name. She's definitely not supposed to be a white. Yeah.

Just to be Isn't she, like, Greek in Daredevil 1? In the movie. Oh, in the You mean, like, is Jennifer Garner? Don't they make the character that Jennifer Garner plays in the Ben Affleck movie, isn't she supposed to be Greek? I don't think I I don't remember.

You never seen the Ben Affleck one? The Mark Steven Johnson. Like, the Daredevil movie or the actual, like, fully electro 1 after? Yeah. Either.

Either, I guess. I mean, I don't know why I asked because I don't think I've seen either. I've never yeah. I've never seen the Rob Bowman, like, electric nachos movie. The only thing good about the Daredevil Ben Affleck Daredevil is Colin Farrell's Bullseye.

That's the only thing good about that movie. Forgot about that where it's, like, carved into his skull. Carved into his skull. Yeah. No.

And he's great. I can't remember the song. I wanted to start singing the song. The is it Trapped? Who is it that does this?

Evanescence. Oh, Evanescence. Let's not talk about it. I will say, so there's this like badass dude of the blade in the raid. In the raid.

That is walking around tapping it against walls and shit like that. And when he actually fights and is killed and it's almost kind of like a, wow this guy was made out to be like quite the badass. It's almost like that first boss before you fight a real boss where it's he he gets, like, thrown out a window and you're, like, oh, okay. Well, it's clear Okay. Like, I love that because when do we meet when do we finally get the fight where Mad Dog is Mad Dog is the the tiny dude with the long hair.

Mhmm. When he pulls the SWAT captain into the apartment and, like, puts the gun down and, like, is just, like, a psychopath? Yeah. That guy is the boss. That guy is the main boss.

Yeah. Jaka and YU get in a conversation where Jaka is like, where's the backup? What the fuck is going on here? And YU's like, okay. Look, everybody's gonna die because I'm a piece of shit.

And he basically just independently, drug all of these SWAT team members to this tower to kill this drug dealer so he can either take his place or be promoted even higher than that, most likely. And Jaka calls him out for it, and the lieutenant's like, well, whatever. And Jaka's like, you're gonna fucking pay for this when we get out of here Yeah. Buddy. Like, not right now because I need you, but you will.

And then crazy, mad dog guy, dude, the room fight when him and Jaka walk in there, mad dog's walking him into a room with a gun. And I'm like, why doesn't he just fucking shoot him? Just shoot him. And he puts the gun down, and then he tell goes on this diatribe where he's like, this this is what I do, where he's like, I fucking beat people to death. And there's such a great delivery and presence from that actor in that moment where you're like, oh, he's gonna kill this guy.

I immediately am like, they're gonna kill like a major character right now. Yeah. And that fight's brutal. It's great. It's it's nice and long and fun and like not it doesn't overstay its welcome even though it's long.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think it draws a it really earns the moment when Mad Dog, like, braces fucking neck. Yeah.

It really it really earns that because there are a couple moments where you think I think anyway, like, Jocko might, like, pull this off or somebody might save him or who fucking knows? Well, in the same time this is happening, Andy, the Rama's brother, they've found each other. Right. And they're fine and they're, like, trying to get him back. He hasn't seen him in about six years.

Yeah. Right? And he's, like, this is where you've been. Just have, like, a brotherly conversation and they go part their separate ways without fighting. Well and, like, Rama knew he was there.

We find out in the beginning of the movie where he tells his dad, like, I'll bring him back. He was talking about his brother, and the brother knew Rama was part of this group of people or doesn't wanna kill any of these cops either or something. Well, he saw him when when they when they On the monitor. Yeah. When they hit the button, and they were, like, looking at all the monitors.

You're right. Yeah. He saw Rama in the monitor. Yeah. Right.

That's why he was, like, I wanna go alone and then they did the other But he didn't know he was a SWAT. Like, he's fairly new to be in SWAT. Right? He's new to the SWAT piece of it. Yeah.

Yeah. So I was wrong. You know, you're fine. Fine. So that's how that's how he knew his brother was in the building.

Yeah. And they have their, like, conversation about, like, going their separate ways or whatever. And then both Mad Dog and Andy go back to Big Honcho. Tom. In front of the elevator.

Tom. As Mad Dog is dragging Jaka's dead body. Yeah. And he's like, that's not the guy. He's like, yeah, it is.

No, he's not. Also, he's dead. Yeah. Well, I'm taking him up anyway. I'm not going up there empty handed.

Yeah. Like you. And Idiot. Yeah. And we see that, that Andy, has been caught, red handed Yep.

Of, Literally red handed. And that He's in nice he puts his hand on the piss and stabs his hand and then puts that monitor. And I love those monitors are from, like, the Like, I I just love the technology being so I know. Being so, like, outdated. It just adds to the the ambiance of this of this world.

But, yeah. He, like, forces him to see the moment that he got caught and, he's fucked. It's pretty great. I also Yeah. So in terms of fight scenes and whatnot overall in this movie, I guess maybe the machete face thing is my favorite, like, overall moment.

But the lab fight scene is my favorite fight scene in the movie. I think it's 1 of my favorite fight scenes in all of movies. And I actually fucking love it when Rama and just some random dude are just going after each other toward the end of the lab fight for a very long time. Yeah. And it hits really hard.

Yeah. Like, this 1 felt like a little more they had, like it wasn't as brutal. Yeah. I mean, it was brutal. Yeah.

But it was a little more, like, it reminded me of a Jackie Chan fight more. Yeah. Yeah. Never did. Where they, like, had fun.

They used stuff. They, like, got onto tables and, like, dodged things and, you know, like Well, when he grabs dude by, like, the calf and thigh and spins him and his head hits that, like, concrete pillar Yeah. He's like, I'm like, I did bet. I was like, oh. Yeah.

Like, oh, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. And the way, like, when they decide to break walls or crack walls or glass or whatever breaking or whatever.

Almost always has some sort of an effect on me. I the sound design in this movie is very good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The sound design is phenomenal.

Yeah. Bone is crunching and all sorts of shit. I feel like we it speeds up pretty quickly. This movie zooms, like, right the fuck along. Because It really does.

When does he find that his brother is being, like, tortured? So they're going to the Top Floor with, the lieutenant and that 1 guy who was was injured but now is fighting people and is Yeah. Fine now because it's been, like, an hour and a half. Yeah. You're good.

So and then then they pass that door, whatever, like, torture room on on Floor 30 Yeah. Like a metal door. And there's just like that that like not Penny's boat style, like, full window. And they they see that and then he just lets him in. Yeah.

Imagine how he's just like Let's him in, lets the other guy down in the chain. Yeah. Yeah. And he wants to fight both of them. And you're like, they've given us they've said he's the crazy 1.

Like, when they gave the rundown of, like, Tama and the 2 lieutenants, they're like, this guy's crazy, but he's kept on a leash by Yep. The boss. In the exposition. And and you're like, alright. Like, would he really put down the gun?

I guess he wants to just kill this guy. Yeah. And then he does that and you're like, well, at least it's consistent. Like, that was the only, like, small, like, character thing I was like. I mean I wasn't mad about it.

A, it's got it's gotta happen for the movie. Yeah. Because it's cool. And b, like movie. I mean, the It is a movie.

And b, like, yeah. It it works like, he the character clearly needs to prove himself. I believe it. He's he's basically told us and we've been set up for, if I'm gonna come tonight, I have to do it by murdering people with my bare hands because I am very fucking sick. And while we're equal.

Yeah. Like that. Yeah. I also love that, the brothers are ones, dressed in dark. The SWAT brothers dressed in dark clothing.

The other brothers dressed in white, like, lighter clothing. Yeah. And I was like, oh, is this the beginning of Double Dragon? Shut not okay. Not okay.

Just I don't know. I don't know, you know. Okay. Or like 1 of them were red in Double Dragon. Yeah.

They were. Anybody who says, like, oh, man. Super Mario Brothers is the worst fucking video game movie I've ever seen. I'm like, you haven't seen shit. Get out of here.

Like, you don't know anything. Oh, man. There's a lot of other people in the movie. Street Fighter? Oh, boy.

That's worse. But it's fun. Street Fighter Legend of, Chun Li? The big I didn't see that movie. I don't know.

Oh my god. Neil McDonough's in it and Chris Klein's in it, I think. Is he not like done in it? Neil I met him. He is awesome.

Yeah. I Yeah. I work He's so lovely. And he's a lot That's great. That's lovely to hear.

Yeah. I just wanna say, here's my letterbox review for Double Dragon, which I watched this calendar year. Oh. I just rewatched this. Remembered I asked my dad to take me, begged him to take me, in fact, opening weekend.

Now I have to to call him and forgive him for everything he's ever done to me. That's how bad that movie is. Well, we went to, just because you said that Super Mario movie, we went to, on Hollywood Boulevard right now, there's a collection. It's, like, somebody's personal collection of, like, of movie props and costumes and stuff. Cool.

Rich. Oh my gosh. I'm forgetting his name. Eisen from ESPN. No.

I can't remember his name, but, like it's a really cool collection. They're moving to Vegas soon, so it's like almost at a out of LA. So if you have a chance, go down and see that. I'm gonna plug that because it was really fun. We loved it.

Okay. 1 of the costumes that was there was that, like, weird boss Goomba tiny hat. Oh, yeah. Fucking creepy ass Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And they, like, saw it and, like, I was, like, what? Like, he just brought me back to that movie and, like We've done the we've done that movie. Completely got rid of Uh-huh.

I successfully purged that. Uh-huh. And I it was just shuffled Came all back. Yeah. I didn't hate it.

I didn't hate it. We rewatched it recently. Yeah. It's not great. I thought it was pretty okay.

I'm not gonna lie. So we get the big old boss battle. Prison of sick thoughts. Which is great. And then, the captain or whatever his name is Lieutenant YU?

Yeah. He gets he basically goes up and takes, the Thomas? Truck kingpin and takes him. He's like, you're gonna let me you're gonna help me get out of this building alive. I really like the exchange that they have as Tom was like, buddy, like, how fucking dumb are you?

Like, no matter how high you get or whatever you do, someone will always be above you shitting on you. And, like, everybody's perfectly happy with me. This wasn't an assassination about me. This was an assassination about you. Yeah.

Like You're fucked. You idiot. Yeah. And I do love when he shoot, like, Tom he says to Tama, he says, like, be quiet or stop talking. Mhmm.

And then just shoots him in the temple. Yeah. Well, they're going down and then they're going down the, stairs. Right? And they kind of encounter each other.

Yeah. He sees, Rama. Rama and Andy. And he yeah. He shoots him.

And then that moment of putting the gun underneath his, like, he's like, oh, fuck. He's gonna kill himself. Yeah. I'm fucked. To prison or the it's all bad.

Click. Click. Yep. It's all bad for him. Doesn't even get too.

Yeah. And Rama gets the hero He gets his comeuppance. He gets his comeuppance. To, make the arrest. He doesn't get to shoot the hostage though because why you already did that?

I do feel like if they ever Shoot the hostage. I'm surprised they never did knowing how dumb Americans are trying to remake this as But, like, have it have, like, eighty five percent of the people survive. And Oh, yeah. Maybe a love story of some kind Yeah. That's happening Uh-huh.

During it. There there has been talk of a raid 3 or there was, and that fell apart. And then there was talk of a US based remake with Gareth Evans producing that is still has some heat, I think. I mean, 2 if you guys have seen it, have you guys seen 2? I've I've not seen 2 ever.

I have seen 2. I like the fights. They went way harder with story. Like, they were like I heard. We're gonna we're gonna make this a and it A drama.

Like, I don't think it was bad, but it lost a little bit of charm. Yeah. Sure. And that pace was different. Like, it was, like, I think, you know, it suffered from we all went in to hopefully see the same, like Right.

Bang bang bang pace. And then, like, they just tried to make a little bit of a different movie and give it a little bit of a different flavor. Yeah. Yeah. And you were like, oh, I wasn't expecting that.

I I'm I'm like, it's I'm due for a rewatch for Raid 2 because I did enjoy it. I think Okay. Definitely good elements. I've only seen it once. I remember enjoying it, but I remember liking the fights and thinking the story wasn't as strong as the first one.

Yeah. Yeah. And, like, there was just like, they were trying to pack in a lot more. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I think if I gave it another chance, I'd probably like it more. But It's kind of what you know, and, like, as much as I do enjoy all the John Wick's, I've I always come back to the first one because the first John Wick is just so simple. Yeah. And I understand why they did what they did with the rest of John Wick, which is, like, blow up the world Mhmm.

Make it bigger, make it more grand. And, like, it's cool. They've built a really cool world. But the first John Wick is just so fucking simple and so beautiful for that reason. I have such a great time.

I've had such a great time with, I think, all of the John Wick movies. I I don't know, man. There's a part of me that loves, Ben knows this. Some of that old, like, Steven Seagal shit, Not because of Seagal. Partially Yeah.

Mostly because of, like, the fucking stuntmen who were just, like, absolute fucking champs dealing with this monster of a human being or whatnot, doing some fucking incredible shit. But this is, like, a lot more palatable to watch, than that kind of garbage because this is an actual good movie. And on that note, the brothers were at the end of this. They finally have gotten out of the building and the evil, not really evil, let's be honest. But, like, a criminal life related brother is, like, open the gate.

Let my brother and his prisoners go. This is the end of this. And Rama's, like, you can come with me. And he's, like, I can't. Bro.

Not smile. What I do like about this movie, and we talked about Dread too, I really appreciate that it it doesn't, deliver this idea of, like, the the police being the the benevolent creatures of this world. Right. And it doesn't show, like, with Andy's character, it doesn't show you that all the criminals are trying to be evil. You know, like You're just trying to survive.

In the period. Exactly. And, like, the world is fucked. It's Yeah. Corrupt.

And I just love that it's kind of in this ambiguous place of like, we're both doing our own thing to survive. Well, we're I don't know if Andy is necessarily a good character. I mean, he he's not evil. 2 people in the elevator just because they happen to be standing beside like they are. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure.

Sure. Sure. Sure. But they might kill his brother. Like, it's Yeah.

Is it justified? Probably not. I'm not yeah. But we don't see him ever kill, like, a SWAT team. For no reason to.

Yeah. Yeah. We we never see him kill someone who's quote unquote an innocent because those were mobsters. Like they were gonna kill these cops. I I'm just like running through like I I feel like maybe we did but, Maybe we do.

Maybe I'm misremembering. No. I mean I don't think we see him kill SWAT Probably not. Team. Yeah.

I think the only, like, pure soul in this movie, I guess, is, like, Ramar, that old man who lets the people into Yeah. His apartment. That's about it. But this this isn't 1 of those movies. Like, Matt, I said this to you before.

Thank you so much for just like bringing a pure, like, balls to the wall adrenaline based, like, fucking action movie Yeah. Where I didn't feel like I had to take a million notes and I could just, like, be like, yeah, man. Just turn the volume up and, like, let it roll and just have a good time. And and we talked about this a little bit earlier before we rerate. As much as I love like Batman Begins or Dark Knight Rises and like those are the first things that come up, but things that cut very quickly, the Born series does this.

Yeah. The cutscenes. I I like seeing, like, a drawn out fight scene. It is kind of, like, to a degree, like, a bummer. It's like if somebody got cut with a machete in the face and then punched where that cut is, you'd be missing a large piece of your face.

But I don't necessarily wanna see that either. I wanna watch the beauty and mastery of what these fucking people can do. And this movie delivers that in a way that nothing I don't know. A lot of it's hard to find. Yeah.

So here we are. We're at the end. I think we're going in the same order. I feel like there hasn't been much movement, Matt. Yeah.

I mean, I've seen it a few a fair few times. You don't feel like it's even better now? I haven't watched it. It it had been in, like, maybe three years. Okay.

Two two or three years since I'd seen it. But, like, it's not it's 1 that I'd seen a few times, like Yeah. A couple times. So I it was pretty consistent, like, not much changes when I think about this movie. Oh, okay.

I thought you might be, like, even more jazzed about it, like, after we talked about it. I'm I mean, like, 4.5. Like, I don't It's pretty high. I can like, I don't have that many movies that I would say perfect. Sure.

Same. Yeah. I would, I would give this 4.5 neck slashes. Yeah. Slashes.

Whatever I said earlier. I think that's right. Neck slashes. No. 4.5 fight minutes after getting stabbed in the neck.

Yeah. Four point five minutes of zombie fighting. Fighting after you've been stabbed in the neck by 2. Yeah. I'm not Alrighty.

I'm not moving. I'm sitting at 4.5, bloodless machetes. It's, this was only the second time I watched this movie. Yeah. And kinda like what you're saying, I just let it rip.

I was like, fuck. This this is a fun movie time. Jess was like, can I watch it? And I was like, I I think you could. I think you would enjoy it, but it's hyper violent.

So Yeah. Take your Is she not a violence? It depends. If it's like if it's like, more, I don't know, cartoony, I guess. Okay.

Yeah. This is not that. Yeah. It's funny you said that based on what I was literally just thinking for myself. But yeah.

So I was like, maybe maybe pass on this 1. Really? I am gonna stick with 4 and a half, fluorescent lights half Look at that. Being used as 1. 4 point 5 point 4 point 5 4 point 5.

We're in the Illuminati. We're in the triangle, are we not? Let's do it. The 3 points. But as we've all kind of, like, heaped praise on this movie, it is a little melodramatic at times.

Some of some of the things are hard to make out just like because of the lighting at times or whatever. It's not like we're sitting here heaping praise and I'm like, man, give it a 5. Yeah. I'm not trying to necessarily give it a 5. You don't need to.

You don't need to justify. I'm not trying to necessarily. We've been heaping praise on it. It's for particular taste. It's not a perfect movie, but in rumble in the Bronx is the perfect martial arts movie.

But outside of that, like, true statement though, this movie is really really really fucking great. And if this is your speed, something that's like very loud and like a little more like hyper violent and just I I I can't get over the not only the budget, but, like, that so much was done in post in terms of, like, weaponry stuff. It's just crazy. Yeah. It's not quite it's not quite up there.

As Matt, you said, like, it's very hard to be a perfect movie, but I'd have to nitpick to find things that are wrong, which is what I do and did and will continue to do. Well, I'm glad you ended the podcast that way. The worst person in the world. The world. Well, I'm gonna take us back to Vancouver, Ben.

The worst place we were. You already did the Humble in the Bronx because that movie was shot in Vancouver. That movie fucking rules. Matt, if people want to find you, where can they find you? Follow you?

I'm on Instagram. I'm max yanagia. Good luck with that last name. Good luck. Yanagia.

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