Bubba Ho-Tep / Stimson & Ben: Reminiscence Pt 1: Vengeance (Guest: Stimson Snead)

Award winning Director (Tim Travers & the Time Traveler's Paradox), writer, producer, actor, illustrator, PNW person, and ten-year veteran of the indie scene, Stimson Snead (Mr. Snead appears courtesy of Skyline Wine) prepares for inevitable bed sores as we tuck in for his choice "Bubba Ho-Tep" (2003 ((wide)) Dir. Don Coscarelli) Starring: Bruce Campbell, and Ossie Davis. You should be sold by the title of this movie alone, but if on top of that, the plot didn't sell you (I weep), we go DEEP into the annals of the past, present, and future, to uncover the secrets of this not often seen horror/comedy. We spend time examining the social impact and nuance of "The Minions," franchise. We take a look at the incredible Bruce Campbell oeuvre. And we make a case for "Dorff Lundgren" as Elvis, based on his look as the original Frank Castle for the screen alone.

Plot: When residents of their nursing home start dying of dubious causes, an aged Elvis and an African-American senior who claims to be President John F. Kennedy discover that the perpetrator is an Egyptian mummy with murderous intentions.

1hr 59mins

Transcript

Welcome everyone to the Review Review. Welcome. I am a host of this program and my name is Ben. I am a co host of this program. My name is Paul.

This is a movie podcast where we have a guest who comes in and brings a movie of their choice, something preferably slightly older, 7, 8 years older, something maybe they haven't seen in a while and they wanna revisit and might feel passionately about one way or the other. They come in with a ranking out of 5. Paul and I will watch that movie in our own time. Our guests will watch that movie, and then we'll come together and we will discuss and see if those rankings ever change by the end of the episode. And lucky us.

We do have a guest today. We do. Our guest is Stimson Snead. Say hi. Hello.

I do not say hi when told to. I say greetings. Hello. Oh. Stimson is a director, actor, producer, writer, and Ben is someone I've known for 23 years.

Wow. And I'm good at at least one of those things. Jack of many trades, master of at least one. That's better than most. Debate on me.

Stimson, tell these people, more about yourself that I haven't already disclosed. Our careers go back so far that I can legitimately state that this man was my first stage kiss. True story. I think I knew this. Yeah.

That Yeah. Go on. The stage kiss, because I'm sure that's what you wanna revisit most, was when Ben was stealing the goddamn show in Midsummer Night's Dreams, and he was bottom, an actor madly in love with himself. And I was playing Quince, a director madly in love with his actor. And given the fact that I'm a director now and he's an actor now, I guess, life follows art.

It was your destiny. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Where in the scene did the kiss happen?

I'm trying to remember. It was actually at the very end. It's not in the original. Shakespeare did not write that in. That was something that you and I added to when the rustics perform in front of the royals at the end.

And interestingly, this was something we were expressly forbidden from doing. Woah. Oh, yeah. We were told we were 100% not allowed to do that. What are they gonna do?

Shakespeare. It's Shakespeare is just about sex. So Oh, truly. Well, I mean, what are they gonna do? Not give us a 5th performance?

It's high school theater. I know. Yeah. Come on. We also were in, like, the most white breadest white breadest?

Sure. The most white breadest high school possible in the early 2000. So Was this in some some? Some. Some.

Some. Yeah. Some. Okay. Well, other than that, tell tell them other things that you've done.

Yeah. Where where can folks find you? What are you working on? Tell us. Tell us.

Tell us. Well, I'm very difficult to find, but or I'm working but where I'm working is a lot of spots. When I wasn't doing acting on shorts, small TV shows that never got picked up. Once did a cartoon voice, also never got picked up. You may notice a running theme here, my television experience.

After that, I started being a DP for the better part of a decade, worked on a lot of shorts, music videos. And then I made the transition into directing, which is what I've always been wanting to be doing. Knocked out a few stupidly over budgeted short films, and then I just did my first multimillion dollar feature last year. Oh, cool. Tim Travers and the Time Traveler's Paradox, which premieres at in San Jose at Cinequest, March 9th.

Be there. I have to say from the outside, it's been awesome seeing, Stimpson's trajectory and career. And it's been awesome to know, you know, when you have those connections with other people in high school, especially, like, theater and, like, we're we're we're fucking nerds. Right? So, like, we were doing fucking Shakespeare in high school, and we weren't the most popular people in the world.

And but to see, like, that we've still held on sure. But held on to that dream and to held on to doing the stuff that we love, this long is just really cool. And so Yeah. I'm so excited to see the movie, Simpson. And then we wanna talk about this movie that you brought to us.

You brought us Bubba Hotep, and we're gonna talk about it in-depth. But first, I have a question, and that is Paul. How are you? Well, until that little fucking move there, I was fine. No.

I'm I mean, I'm alright. You know? I feel like I'm always talking about this. Like, my back's still kinda funky. The the weather here is, like, being back home in Washington, which is kind of lovely, but also a real pain for the infrastructure in Los Angeles.

But, overall, I'm doing alright. Stimpson, how are you? I'm doing pretty good. I got I have, was stuck in Spokane doing the final delivery on the feature for 7 weeks. Got there in time for the record breaking hold, negative 15 degrees at one point, which was the experience.

Wow. Then I got back into LA day before yesterday just in time for the rainstorm. So Mhmm. You're chasing the bad weather might be following me. He hasn't say.

Either you're chasing it or it's chasing you. Yeah. They are but one and the same. I I think it's a mutually unhealthy relationship. So Yeah.

Nobody asked, but I'm doing well. Oh, that's fine. That's good. Sure. Oh, yeah.

Glad to hear it. Glad to hear it. Great. I guess But, you know I guess that's, Once your mouth and your mind link up like Stimpson and I, you'll catch up. You'll get there.

Alright. I see You are the perfect one. I see who's getting shit on today. It'll be me in the end. Don't worry.

It'll be me. But I mean, everybody's generally doing good, pretty cozy in the weather. Yeah. That's cool. We have our red wine, our, our separate Stimpson's enjoying blackberry wine, I believe.

Let's get to let's get Oh, yes. Yeah. Blackberry wine. What song is that in where somebody references blackberry wine? It's like a classic Elvis song?

Because it's not in this movie. I know. I'm gonna shut up then. But in the meantime, we're we're in our we're in our zone now. Let's talk about, maybe maybe not so positively, but hopefully positively.

What are we watching? Alright. I wanna make a a backdoor pitch for a film that I'm convinced nobody has heard about called Weaklayers. It's a little snowboarding movie about people who do snowboarding and like to make videos about snow. And if you came across it at a film festival, you would think, wow.

This is charmingly acted. It's beautiful photography. Maybe if the filmmakers are lucky, it'll, show up on Amazon or something like that sometime. And the reason I wanna talk about it is these crazy bastards, I have no idea how, got themselves a theatrical release at AMC, and I randomly stumbled across this little indie movie at the Mainstream movie theater in Spokane. Oh, wow.

Wow. Yeah. What I am most excited for about this movie is not even the movie itself, but the sheer tenacity of getting a low budget indie film with no names of any variety or even a big hook for that matter somehow getting into a theatrical release. Like, the chops part of me is so excited for this little movie. How?

If any of their producers are listening, call me. Tell me how. I will give you a foot rub because I need to get a movie if I went into the theaters immediately. And great news, all the producers are watched are listening. All of them.

Well, if you offer Every foot rub is worth it. If you offered a foot rub It's a lot of foot rub. If you offered a foot rub, I do think was calling. Yeah. So I love that man.

I would give that man a foot rub if he asked, but I don't think I mistype. Yeah. I was gonna say I don't think you are either. Fair. Fair assessment.

Paul. Or is it me? No. How about you? Okay.

Yeah. I'm gonna go dark for a second, and I apologize. Because I saw a movie that was no good. Oh. And it is a little movie called Argyle.

And it is Matthew Vaughn's new venture. I've been on, like, the I feel like I've been on the precipice of of losing interest in Matthew Vaughn for maybe, like, the last, like, decade or so where I'm like, I don't I don't know. I don't know. So since the first Kingsman? Yeah.

Kind of. Okay. Yeah. Because I like the first Kingsman, but Me too. This one was like it just was such a tedious experience, and I you know, a couple thoughts that I had while watching it were, Henry Cavill needs a better agent.

Oh, boy. Like I didn't like the mullet? Oh, man. The hairdo is awful. Sam Rock, he has a straight up mullet like a No.

It's like David Ball, like, barbarian twin mullet. At the end of the With the full top. At the end he has a mullet. Okay. I feel like Sam Rockwell and Bryce Dallas Howard have, like, no chemistry together.

And the whole movie is about them having chemistry. And I was, like, especially after opening the movie with Dua Lipa and who and Henry Cavill who you they just wanna fuck. Like, they've got a boner. 2 hot people and they just wanna fuck. Gotta boner.

Sam Rockwell and Bryce Ellis Howard. I love Sam Rockwell. I think he's Oh, he's one of the greats. Brilliant. And I just was like, I I do like him in the movie.

There's there's good people in the movie doing trying to do good stuff. I just I found it very boring by the end. I'm gonna tail on to what you just said. I've seen Nicolas Cage in a lot of movies that I don't necessarily enjoy, but I've never seen a Nicolas Cage performance I don't enjoy. I feel pretty much the same way about Sam Rockwell, even though normally he does, like, stuff that's, like, more mainstream, like, normally theatrical release or whatever.

Nick Cage is all over the place. Sure. But, I've seen some bad movies with Sam Rockwell, but I don't think I've ever seen bad Sam Rockwell. K? I'm gonna counter on Argyle a little bit.

I can't defend it as a movie. I can't call it good, but Be nice. I had relentless fun. And I have Okay. Maybe it's because we're in the award season right now, and this has been the year of not a lot of superhero movies, which thank god.

But to me, I have gotten so exhausted of the self serious movie, which for the record is no better than Argyle. There are so many self serious films that are trying to make these big important statements that they're and sometimes I want sugar. I just want cotton candy fluff where I could turn off my brain and enjoy great photography and things like an ice skating death battle on oil. While you drink your blackberry wine Yeah. Exactly.

And your cotton candy. Yeah. Exact is it stupid? Yes. Is it very good?

No. But I'm having so much fun. It's just it's hard for me to fault. Is My fault in a movie experience is something that's unpleasant to sit through. Well, the cat is world class.

Well, okay. So one moment I almost walked out was when she didn't go back for the cat. Sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. She didn't do the full, like, Ripley Jonesy yet. Yeah. You gotta. And you know me.

Yeah. And you know my love for Jonesy. And I'm like, oh, man. I think I'm I think I'm out on this person. You know, I I wish I had that experience to be honest.

I just I did not I did not hit her. It's not true. It's bullshit. I did not hit her. I did not.

Oh, hi, Mark. I did not have fun. I was I sat in my own misery. And so And his own mess. And my own get up to go to the restroom.

My own shit piss and semen. I don't know. I was gonna use a goddamn bed pan. I'm gonna make it this time. I thought about that joke, and I figured we were gonna be too classy to go there.

But Oh, hell no. I I see what this is now. Thank you. This is yeah. You've just lowered your bar.

I'm so sorry, sir. So, what am I The bar is so low. Yeah. You didn't know that we could get here, but here we are. We've coined a little phrase on this program say that we say only the best from Bezos.

And I'm actually going to say too much bullshit from Bezos. I'm actually gonna do a little bit of a a gripe session here for a moment. I got done watching Bubba Hoep and got some things done around the house or whatever, and I was like, I'm gonna turn on, like, a background movie or something to watch, and I made the mistake of turning on a movie that I knew would pull me in. A movie called time cap. And I have an indefinite lease on that movie from Amazon Prime AKA I bought it.

That's what we used to call it. And on my own movie that I, quote, unquote, own my indefinite lease, it made me sit through, like, 3 minutes of ads. What? To watch my own movie. I nearly had a childlike meltdown.

I was so furious. The flaw is on you for not supporting physical media. If you're gonna support Timecop, I'm gonna close the buy 3 copies of Timecop from Walmart. I should you know what? I'm pretty good at buying multiple copies of things from Walmart, and I should have leaned on that instinct.

I don't know if Timecop is available in 4 k. Is there a criteria? But there should be. This is no. No.

You're doing it wrong. You don't want it in 4 k period. You wanna buy a VCR, get a VHS because that is the proper way to watch Timecop. Buy it on DVD. To enjoy a media experience.

Dump it onto a VHS. It comes with poor diet Coke on it. I just some sticky candy. We were talking about, like, movies that are, stims, as you mentioned. Yeah.

Yeah. Self seriousness. And that's the thing about damn, is the Van Tam performance really good, but the movie doesn't take itself overly seriously. It doesn't try to lay it on too thick with the time travel stuff, which sometimes doesn't work in its favor. And also, like, just shouts as we like to do this on this program.

Shouts to fucking Bruce McGill, who I just talked about Nicholas Cage. He was in matchstick men with him. He's in the insider, a million things. He plays a pivotal role in that movie. And just like shouts to all the great character actors that come through and do excellent work, which I think we might end up talking about some of those folks today.

I I know they're character actors, but can we quickly circle back to JCVD and how you felt about his performance in that? I think he's pretty solid. He is the core heart of the films. Wait one more time? Because he is the heart of the film to me.

I think he's really, really solid in the movie. Like, he's he seems so fucking tired of everything, and he just does not really get off of that note when he's playing, like, the 2004 Walker. When he's 90 he he changes the energy up between those two time he does a good job. You know, the the audience can't see your guys' camera right now, but I'm looking look looking at Ben's face, both you and I talking about time cop and junk on Van Dam. And there is an expression of just such deep exhaustion.

Of it. He's doing his Van Dam from time cop. I'm not getting off this. I thought I was really good at hiding that. You know, you have a director looking right at you.

He's reading you like a book, bro. Well, you have to understand. I've been around I've been doing this podcast with Paul for over a year. So and every time we mention JCR, that's awful. There's a little sound, cue that happens.

Tell me what you really want. Hardly. No runs of bananas and for make my name. It just depends on how high Paul is when he's editing. For me, it'll be a Tuesday.

We'll see how it goes. Before we dive into the fact sheet, my all time favorite thing about this film is the joy of describing it for the first time to someone who has never heard of it. So for your listeners Oh, yeah. May I please do this? This is something where the audience needs to just hear the setup for this.

Please. Because telling people about it is one of the best parts about it. It's such a great high concept. Oh, yeah. So, dear listener, Baba Hoep is the story of an ancient Egyptian mummy who has escaped from his tour and has invaded an old folk's home to suck out the souls of the old through and then flush their souls down the toilet.

But he got thwarted because little did Bubba Hotep know that in this old folks' home is Elvis Presley having faked his own death That's right, baby. By Bruce Campbell alongside his partner, JFK, who also faked his own death, had his skin dyed black so he could be played by Ozzie Davis. Oh. And the 2 of them will fight Baba Hotep. And this is the part about the pitch that I love, and it is also one of the most genuinely touching looks at old age you will ever see, and I am not joking.

I am not being facetious. This is a film that will make you cry, and you will not believe me until you watch it. I'm gonna tail onto this real quick before the fact sheet. I used this word earlier when I was talking to Ben. Pathos.

Just a ridiculous and Ben and I were just kinda looking at each other and saying a couple things, and I go, oh, yeah. We both watched this movie today. And Ben was like, yeah. Like, just to jump on what Stimson's saying like, there's no facetiousness coming here at this point. Okay.

Fact sheet. Okay. Archaeology is the search for facts. Okay. Bubba Ho Tep was a silver sphere corp, little tongue in cheek there, and MGM, that was the distribution, when it eventually got a larger release.

This movie originally was released in 2002. It's rated r, and it's an hour and 32 minutes. The budget was a $1,000,000. Now that is 1,700,000. Opening weekend, technically June 9, 2002.

It opened at a couple different festivals that, week. The larger distributed release was 10,102,003, October 10, 2003. So we're going to mostly be working off the numbers and the competition from 2,003 just because we got that larger release then. Also, I feel like 2003 is the year because that's when Ben and I watched it very drunk at our friend's Matt's house. I love I was gonna say.

Yeah. We're gonna dig into that a little more, please. Right? Yes? Oh, yeah.

Okay. Good. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Okay.

Good. Alright. The, opening weekend for this film, for its larger release weekend was $35,636. Adjusted, that's 59,0732. The final gross for North America and worldwide was 1,200,000.

That's 2,000,000 adjusted. So it did make, like, it did make its money back in a little more, which is always good when you're in a little independent movie that gets no, marketing, what whatsoever. But they had Bruce Campbell. They had Bruce Campbell, baby. Ozzie Davis.

Ozzie Davis. The chin of all chins. Other releases this weekend of Kill Bill volume 1 from our pal we were talking about earlier. Foot massage, anyone? Mhmm.

Anybody? Yeah. Good boy exclamation point. Intolerable cruelty, Uwe Boll's House of the Dead and Mystic River was in a limited list. Mystic River, I I saw that the day I got dumped by my girlfriend, Marie.

Sean Penn? If you remember Marie, she went to she went to Skyline. So you probably Oh, okay. I never met her. Okay.

It's just funny that it was like she dumped me on the phone and then my dad was like, we're going to movie. Do you wanna go? And it was Mystic Fucking River. But you came back and she had sent you a really nice pot pie. No.

She was dead. Wow. Marie Callender died. That's Also, I mean, you were dating a skyline kid. What did you think was Right.

I mean, ugh. There's a whole thing. Line. That's That's a whole thing. You know, she was she had a she had a she was banned from East Lake's campus.

She sounds rad. Yeah. Because this is a this is a whole drama. Like, she dated Trent, and then Trent got a I remember him. Trent got, like, a, a restraining order, I guess, against her.

The only thing you're gonna hear from all of this segment is me saying, I'm cutting so much of this. It's fine. It just seems so random. Moving on. No.

You can keep going. No. It's it's not very it's not that interesting. Can we rename can we call it the, Stimson and Ben's high school reminiscing podcast? The Look Back?

Better title. Better title. Yeah. Eastlake. Where did we go wrong?

By starting at Eastlake. Fucking punks. Okay. The weekend top 5, Kill Bill volume 1. The school of rock.

Does anybody else fucking love that movie? Movies so good. Oh, good boy. Intolerable cruelty and out of time with Denzel Washington. Top five films this year, Finding Nemo, the Pirates of the Caribbean, the cursed black pearl, the Lord of the Rings, the Return of the King, the Matrix Reloaded, Bruce Almighty.

Hello, puppet. Other films from 2003, Elf, Chicago, Hulk. Does anybody else like Hulk? Am I the only person in the world? Which version?

The Ang Lee version? Yeah. I adore that movie. It did it did it a heck ahead of its time. I thought so too.

Better than the, Edward Norton version. In fact, if it come out a decade later, I think people would have hailed it as part of the cinematic universe. I like this guy. This guy's great. Great movie.

He's talking about. Too fast, too furious. All these movies came out obviously when we were in high school, so I have so many memories about all of them. I said forget about it, k. Daredevil, which I saw at the theater and walked out and was like, great.

Loved it. Yeah. You know what I'm a little shocked by looking back on this list? I mean, there's a few stinkers in there, daredevil, for example. But What?

There is actually a shockingly high list of phenomenal films that were classics. Oh, yeah. Oh. And then he did this This one. Are you ready for yeah.

This is the big one to me. I think we're all it it was Ben and I maybe. Master and commander, the far side of the world. Oh. Phenomenal.

Fucking rules. Did anybody else notice, by the way, that, like I don't know if it was all that year, but it was within that 18 month window. We just had this period of all sonti Seetman films. Like, we had Pirates of the Caribbean. We had Master and Commander, and we had that really good live action version of Peter Pan that kinda bombed, but was phenomenal.

Jason Isaacs? Jason I yeah. That movie was alright. Yeah. The Master and Commander of First Side of the World is so sad to me because they had intended to do a series Yeah.

And it didn't do well. And it was so worthy of it too. It's the other thing too. Peter Weir shot the fuck out of that movie. Oh my god.

That movie is beautiful. Oh my god. It's great. Yeah. Speaking of directors that shoot their own stuff, Peter Haim shot Timecop.

It's beautifully shot film. Alright. Freddy versus Jason, old school, bad Santa, and I like holes. Holes. Okay.

I know I know that we're just gonna I'm tangent about all these movies, but I just have to say I'm up for you. Freddie versus Jason. Oh. I had just gotten a credit card, my first credit card. Yeah.

And I was at Rem in Town Center with Matt. And I was like, should we go see Freddie versus Jason? And he was like, I don't have any money. And I was like, woah. Charge it.

And that's the beginning of the end for Ben McFadden. The the very first thing you put on your credit card was tickets to Freddy versus Jason? Correct. Yeah. Oh god.

What was it? Ever a movie you should sneak into and not financial for the filmmakers? And I am a filmmaker. Freddy versus Jason is one you should have not spent your no. See I'm not saying don't see it.

Sneak in. If Patrick had been a thing at the time, time frame. Still covering that off. Still paying that off. It's mildly entertaining.

I mean, the it's weird because you have this point very early in the movie where a guy goes, get away from me, babe. You taste like cigarettes, and you're like, this was a good move. And then there's a moment later where Freddie says, how sweet dark meat, and you're like, I'm gonna ask for a refund. Oh god. I was never here.

Like I should get that Fuck this movie. Expunge for my record if I can. That that movie is aged like sour milk in a lot of ways, but it's entertaining as hell. I'll I'll grant you that. You know what?

Maybe it falls into the Argyle category. You're just making fun with it even if you don't respect it. It can be a delight for the senses. Not many at the same time, but different ones some of the time. Exactly.

Alright. The Letterboxd's average on this film, 3.3. You can follow me on Letterboxd at run b m c. You can follow me on Letterboxd. I'm at Paul acts badly.

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High school. You're not allowed here. Yeah. But what's funny is so Skyline was literally less than a mile away from our high school. You know what's great?

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It's dark. It's been fun. Oh, I got so much more I could share. Welcome to our triple episode. Ebert gave this movie 3 out of 4 stars and recommended it fairly highly.

Rotten Tomatoes, 79%. Fangoria, this was issue 222. And they rated this movie. They said it was TCB, taking care of business. Very much like this film.

Major award wins and nominations. This won the Bram Stoker award for literary achievement in horror for Don Coscarelli. That is a big deal in the horror world, in the genre world, so we wanna make sure we mention that. Of course. Yeah.

And also because this movie is so insanely deserving. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is not a slumming it movie. I I I refer you back to my earlier statement about the complete lack of artifice.

This movie's gonna make you cry. I'm gonna talk about a lot of people. Talking about people. Director was Don Coscarelli. Know him from the Phantasm series, the Beast Master.

John dies at the end, which I went to the SIF premiere of and he was at. Oh, how was that? I've never seen it. I've read the book and so the movie was not the same complete hit for me but but I did like it. Okay.

But you know, book adaptations. Writer Don Coscarelli, obviously did Everything Above and Survivor Quest and, this movie. It is based on a, short story by John R Lonsdale. Director of photography is Adam Gennaro. He did this.

I find it fascinating that this is the only movie this guy has shot. It's a great looking film. Not before. Not it is lit gorgeously. It's lit so well.

What was and this is a difficult thing to articulate. I'm assuming anybody who listens to this podcast is a big movie fan. So even if you're not a filmmaker out there, you probably watch a lot of independent b movies. When you're working on that independent low budget sphere, it is so hard to make something look not good, but stylish. If you have a good Mhmm.

Competent capper, everything will look professional above a certain budget level, and a million will get you there. But to add stylishness on top of that, usually at that budget range, you're struggling for professional competence. This film and if you know what you're looking for, you'll know what I'm talking This is a stylish, artful looking film that somehow manages to embrace its sort of grindhousey roots, but in a loving way. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know why this guy never, DP'd another film. He was great.

It's funny. I I find myself wiggling already from Oh, no. Seeing the budget being 1 point $2,000,000 movie. Well, and, sorry to keep piling on is Timson was saying, I'm talking about lighting, and you're talking about how stylish the movie is. And we can talk about color and depth and what but, basically, listener, if you're not a huge movie fan, somebody made this movie look like a a movie that cost a lot more than it does for so little it would shock you.

I think that's the best way I can put it honestly, where it's like this movie looks it looks like it's a $15,000,000 10 or $15,000,000 movie, which is still not much. Right. If it was shot today with the same cast at their peak value, it would be a $10,000,000 film shot today. Adjusted for inflation, I think you actually have it written in here. It's a 1.7 adjusted for inflation.

I don't think it could be done for that still. I don't I also gotta remember that 1.7. I mean, Ozzie Davis and, Bruce Campbell may not be the most expensive guys in the world, but they don't come free. There is probably a nut for all we know, they probably got some good tax incentives in there to help boost that up a little bit, but that's only gonna get you a couple 100,000 tops. Well and those guys probably work for scale or barely above scale.

Oh, I I They wanted to do this. Yeah. I don't think there was a single person in the cast or the crew who wasn't at scale. Like, everybody on this was making minimum wage. Yeah.

Which is amazing. And the music is Brian Tyler who did a bunch of Marvel, Fast and Furious, Super Mario Bros, the movie. Wow. Which Super Mario Bros? The newest.

The newest. Oh, so the the bad one. The one that was written by a, the one that was written by a chat gbt. Exactly. We did the one from the nineties, and I was like, this is not terrible.

Like, nothing's flashing up. But We did that episode. We did Super Mario Bros. It's got a lot of good half cocked ideas. It's got more style to it.

Mhmm. Max Headroom. Max Max Max Max Headroom. Yeah. Our producer, Don they're pretty cool.

Yeah. The one set, Don Coscarelli. Bruce Campbell's in this movie. He plays Elvis Presley slash Sebastian, if you believe that. He's obviously in the Evil Dead series, Escape from LA, the Hudsucker Proxy, Congo, bad gorilla.

Bad gorillas. Bad gorillas. Gorillas. He's also a cameo in all of the Raimi Spider Man movies. Yep.

And was original Doctor Strange. Apparently supposed to be Mysterio. Yeah. The next time. That's tragic.

By the way Could have been Mysterio. Just be we live in the darkest timeline. Yeah. Imagine him playing a guy who's trying to act like a movie star from the forties in a big budget movie. It'd be great.

Yes, please. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Ozzie Davis, big RIP.

Yeah. John f Kennedy, Do the Right Thing, Malcolm X, Jungle Fever, The Client. Ella Joyce plays the nurse, set it off, Stop or My Mom Will Shoot, Temptation. Heidi Marhout, Callie Thomas, Phantasm 4. Imagine that.

Vice Girls. Oh, yeah. Bob Ivy is Bubba Ho Tep. Don't be horny. Oh, yeah.

Don't be horny. Don't be don't be horny. I am clean. Oh, yeah. Stop being horny, Woody.

I know I'm not allowed. I went to Skyline. This is who I am. You know, on second thought, I'm glad I'm not physically in the room for you guys. No.

You're not. You wish you were here. We want you here. You wanna get in on this warm little tiny room action? Oh, I'm good.

Well, I don't know about you listener, but I'm gonna start drinking more. Dudes and the Stewds. Bob Audi plays Bubba Hoep, Deep Space Phantom Empire American Rampage. Rampage. Like, Sunday.

Sunday. Sunday. Tacoma Dome. Rampage. Gravedigger.

We all know the Tacoma Dome. We all know what that is. Oh, I miss it. I miss it. I remember when it blew up.

You're thinking of the kingdom. Oh. Really, I don't know the Tacoma Dome. I was like, it blew up. Exit 141.

Exit 141 on the high five. And Dola. Larry favorite road in America. Oh my god. I know.

It's so bad right there. Larry Parnell, RIP, plays Kimo Sabe, Elvis, mister baseball, personal best. One other person I wanna mention because one of the, orderlies or one of Roebeck, Bruce Roebeck, is that his name? He's the guy with the big chin who carry they carry the bodies out. Yeah.

He's an, a comedic actor. Yeah. Yeah. First time I ever saw him was in the movie The Late Shift, and he played Jay Leno. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I've seen that. You know what I'm talking about? The the Jay Leno Letterman, like Yeah. Versus movie.

Did I ever tell you my, Jay Leno story? Don't know. Yeah. Stimson, there's another cameo, and I feel like you might wanna mention who that actor is unless I'm gonna do it. We'll see.

I think you're gonna do it because I don't think I spotted it. I I like the fantasm series, at least the first two. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And Reggie Bannister, who works with Don Coscarelli, shows up in a lot of Don Coscarelli movies.

He's one of the heroes in the phantasm series. He shows up as, like, the administrator or whatever of the, hospital. Yes. The the the credit note that I was paying attention to, because I didn't actually notice this until you're reading it out loud, Larry Purnell, who played, Kemosabe. This is not the only Elvis related movie he's been in.

Yeah. He was in the John Carpenter one. Exactly. I just how all encompassing of a figure is Elvis that someone can state in their career that they have been in not one but two different buildings about this same guy. I wonder how hard he tried to get into the Baz Luhrmann one.

No. That would he had been the actor. Yeah. He had passed, I think, by that point. I don't know.

Wait. Kurt Russell was in the John Carpenter one. Right? And then he was Elvis on the screen in Forrest Gump. Yeah.

Is that true? So I think there's 2 Kurt Russells. He played he played Elvis and Forrest Gump? He was the Elvis on screen, I think, in Forrest Gump when Forrest is dancing with the TV. Uh-huh.

Kurt Russell is Elvis on the screen. Oh, wow. Did not know that. Me neither. I'm pretty sure we'll look it up.

I'm going to take your word for it and definitely not fact check this because that's how society improves. Stimpson, we are on to some fun facts that you might have to read for us. You wanna read those fun facts? They're very fun. Let me let me scroll down.

You always saw the shit out of the fun facts. Oh, I know. There's a part They're real fun. Wants to just not do it now out of sheer peevishness, but I you know, I will. I will.

I will. I'm gonna be a team player here. Appreciate you. Yeah. I want more wine.

I went to Skyline, bro. Thank you. Skyline Wine. Get it brought to you by Skyline and Skyline Wine. Skyline.

Skyline Wine. Not full of anthrax. Maybe. Alright. So I'm gonna have to dive into some fun facts about the film.

The first one is a legal fact, which I could bitch about this for a long time because I've been dealing with this own world. But not one piece of music from Elvis Presley is in this film. The reason, as explained by the director, is it would have taken more than half the budget of the film to license even a single song. And for the Wow. He is not making this up.

The film that I just did, Tim Travers and Time Travel is Paradox for preparing March 9th in San Jose. Self plug. We had to license a song for the film, and we had to go through a whole negotiating process. I'm not gonna name the song right now just to not shoot myself in the foot legally. Because one of the things a lot of, labels will do, especially if you're an indie filmmaker, they'll say, here, you can have the song for $10,000 for your festival run.

And then when someone offers you, say, $3,000,000 to buy the movie, they're gonna say, hey. We know you love that song. So now the price to release the film is 2 mil. Woah. Your back's against the wall, and you have no no negotiating power.

So one of the things we had to do in our own film was get that presettled. Sorry. I know we're also gonna be laughing and joking. Oh, this is great. We like okay.

Did you have curiously, and we can cut this, but did you when you went into making the movie, did you have songs in mind that you wanted? No. This is one where the editor brought it up during the orgy scene in my film. And, no, I'm not gonna Interested. Interested.

But I'm not gonna give context for this orgy. But for the record, there is Interested. The editor pointed out that this particular piece of music would work beautifully. And so we edited in. We all lapped it.

It had great audience reviews when we did our test screenings. So we sort of pushed forward, got the song licensed, and hilariously, several of the people at the orgy are wearing masks. So when we brought in the lead actor Samuel Dunning to do some ADR, because you can't see his face on some of him, we ADR'd him singing along to the song in question. Oh, nice. Okay.

And by the way really beautifully. We're not always funny when we're on PBS, which we are on PBS. There is an e for education. My god. Poor, poor.

While the bar has dropped for everyone. By by the way, episode brought to you by Skyline. It's even dropped for us. Yeah. But so yeah.

So this sorry. This first fact sent me down a whole rabbit hole, but I've had to deal with this yet. So my my heart goes out to Don Casari because I get it. Yeah. So, next little fun factoid about this film.

There is a prequel titled Bubba knows Foratu, curse of the she vampires, which has been in work for years. Now this second sentence gets to me because in works means not dead. I cannot tell you how badly I want to see Baba Nosferatu, curse of the she vampires. Have you guys heard anything that I have? Is there movement?

Apparently, there hasn't been for several years, but apparently, it's not dead. But to me, if it's been several years, it's dead. Horrible. The sad thing is you wouldn't be able to cast Bruce Campbell because he would be Aged out. So the question is, though, if we wanted to do a prequel to Bubba Hotep, who would be Elvis?

Oh. Who would be who could possibly replace Bruce Campbell? It couldn't be Chris Pratt. Got it. I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a wild one out there.

Jacob Allorte. Too not funny. Wasn't he in Priscilla? Yeah. Elvis.

You need someone you need someone campy and funny. It's gotta be someone who you wouldn't necessarily think of as I mean, part of what made Bruce Campbell great is it's so obvious after he's cast, but it's not remotely obvious. Doesn't look like him. I have a pitch. I have a pitch, and it's someone we talked about, and you might be like, I'm I'm gonna go with Sam Rockwell.

Well, yeah. I thought you were Batman. No no funny enough. That's funny. Rockwell but Rockwell is hilarious.

That's just a good you just did a good job. I thought we were trying to do a funny job. I I I said Jacob Elordi, which was a good job. Yeah. And then I was punished.

I would almost want to cast someone who would be wildly wrong, but in the right mood could make it amazing. So here's my craziest of the crazies. Dolph Lundgren. Dorf Lundgren? Dorf Lundgren?

Yeah. Imagine it. He learns to sing. He puts on the full outfit. He's doing a lot of stuff these days just for shits and giggles.

The man clearly has a good sense to he's literally got a PhD. So not only Yeah. Fulbright scholar. And just picture the memes and picture the outfit. Can we say also, just because, like, the hair fits kinda, do we get him in that, like, Frank Castle mode when he was the original cinematic punisher?

Yeah, bro. Absolutely. And the same costume in at least one scene. The meditation scene? Yeah.

The nude scene. At the meditation scene. While we're getting a lot out of talking about Aquaman's Dolph Lundgren The the next fun factoid. So fun tomato quotes the best movie to star the king and JFK. And I am not 100% sure that's true because another movie that involves the king and JFK, albeit in supporting roles, is Forrest Gump.

That's true. True. But I Well, I think Rotten Tomatoes might be right. For I think you I mean, is that a crazy statement? Torn on that movie.

I don't know. I think it I it's a long it's been a while since I've seen that. It's been a while. You had to beat me to it. Since I've seen that movie, but I liked it when it came out.

I liked Forrest Gump. I like Star Wars when it came out, and here we are. Woah. Yeah. But Forrest Gump didn't have 19 sequels and shows.

True. Exactly. Next up was 2 Forrest 2 Gump. I said forget about it, coulda. The closest to that unofficial Forrest Gump sequel was Benjamin Button.

This is all the same vibes. Imagine though imagine though if Forrest Gump went through the sequel process with the titles, titling from Fast and the Furious. Forest Forest 5, Gump x. You know what I'm thinking about? Like, just if you were to sequelize Forrest Gump, they would have to ruin it in the way they did stuff with Star Wars where every single random supporting character gets their own movie, which weirdly enough, Forrest Gump does sort of lend itself to bits.

Like, just I mean to get a Jenny prequel. I don't get it. I don't mind getting a Bubba. Bubba's family? Yeah.

Yeah. I think Bubba family? Does anybody else Lieutenant Dan, I brought you some ice cream. Does anybody else currently have a pet or have had a pet that they refer to as Bubba? I call my cat Even though that's not their name because I do.

I call my cat Bubba? Ben does. My dad called me Bubba. There you that's close enough. I had a cat that I called dumbass, but I don't think that relates.

Close enough. Alright. One more fun fact. Do it. Before Bruce Campbell accepted the role of Elvis, he had only one question for Don Caswelliere.

Are you going to show the penis? Now I just This will make sense. I think this is a very reasonable question for any actor to ask. Yes. I mean, I know it's a it's a trivia thing.

We're supposed to make a big deal out of it. But, honestly, that just seems like a relevant question. Yeah. Like, 100%. Ask him the thing tomorrow, and the script says, Ben gets grabbed by penis page 4.

Would you ask me if I intended to show your penis? Yeah. My is it gonna be like a leash? I'm asking the wrong question. Who's grabbing my penis?

Oh. Why is grabbing my penis? Dolph Lundgren. Dolph Lundgren. Where do I sign?

Yeah. I'm in. Alright. So here's another opportunity for you to say what this movie is about, Stimpson, but this is a log line. We want you to give us your best pitch of the log line for this movie.

So the the, you know, 1 to 2, 3 sentence log line. Oh my god. I'm not ready for this. I know. We pull this stuff.

We do this to everyone. Yeah. They're pieces of shit. We're awful. I remember hearing this, but I but the guy took it in such stride on the episode I listened to.

I assumed it was scripted. Oh, no. It's editing. It's all editing. Well, you'll be saved in editing.

Which episode did you listen to? I was listening to, the raid. Oh, okay. Oh, also that, like, Matt did a pretty good job with that. Like, it's a pretty good pretty you can sum up that movie.

Yeah. Here you go. When the world gets unfunkified by the undead, only the king and the king of all presidents can bring the evil to an end. Uh-huh. That was pretty good.

That was pretty good. I like the uh-huh. Uh-huh. The uh-huh. Are you still going?

Uh-huh. Yeah. Sorry. 6 Uh-huh. So here is the log line as written, by some guy.

When residents of their nursing homes start dying of dubious causes, an aged Elvis and an African American senior who claims to be president John f Kennedy discover that the perpetrator is an Egyptian money mummy with murderous intentions. I do wanna pull one thing. I feel like better. Yours is better. And I also feel like if you're gonna say that he's just claiming to be president John f Kennedy, then you needed to say then he's just claiming to be Elvis.

So I think you just need to make the blanket statement to him. To be? Really? I think so because they're both do you believe Well, the film is deliberately ambiguous in it. Like I agree.

I agree. By design, from Elvis' perspective, Ozzy is just crazy. But he knows if he were to tell people his truth, people would say he's crazy, and that's part of the friendship. And they never definite in world, they do pretty definitively answer whether or not Bruce is or he is not Elvis unless we can see that there's an unreliable narrator. That's what I'm gonna say.

That's what I'm literally thinking the exact same thing. My argument is that if it's his perspective. So I feel Elvis is a reliable narrator in this, and there are a couple things where it's like he never says his daughter's name. He just saw it, my daughter, my child. Like, there are a couple little things where it's like if I wanna try to poke holes.

But It doesn't strike me as filmmaker intent or if at least intent there is it's not ambiguous for him beyond how he doubts himself. Because, obviously, when he talks to, John f Kennedy, he thinks this man is crazy, but Elvis is sane enough to know that he would sound crazy too. Yeah. That's true. Okay.

I mean, that's part of the poignancy of that relationship. Yeah. I agree. And I do wanna say Ben said this was written by a person. These are all written by Jeff Bezos on IMDB.

He writes all of the log lines. Only the best written by a person, which, you know, if you'd asked me a year ago if that was a meaningful statement, I would have laughed at you. And I'm just gonna cry. I know. Yeah.

I'm just gonna cry. Only the best from base. Bullshit from Bezos. We're getting my time caught back. Speaking of walks, you couldn't walk from Eastlake to Skyline.

You would still probably I kid. Dog, this is brought to you by Skyline. Take a fucking Uber. Take an Uber. There was no Uber.

Take an Uber x. There was no Uber in 2000 cell phone. Take my hoverboard. It you won't need power. You have it's a jet.

Going in the future now. This was the age in which cell phones were so rare that even though ours was our rich high school, it was still rare to have a friend with a cell phone. Why on my Razer phone? It's crazy. Still calling on the pay phone to my dad and going to 1800 collect and be like, pick me up.

I remember getting so elitist when I got my Yeah. Where it's like, say, 6 day or 8 day. You know, in the in the collects, like, stay away. Power Cat entrance. Yeah.

Yeah. After Hi, baby. It's a boy. We're having way too much fun. This is great, but we wanna speak about this movie.

I feel like ad nauseam. Most likely. I know I do. So we're gonna take I'm not drinking it, it will be ad nauseam. We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back with more Stimpson.

God, why? We'll be right back after these Because you're delicious. This is Elvis Aaron Preston. Impersonator, Ernest Jason Priestley. Proudly endorsing the review review movie podcast, daddy.

Yeah, baby. You can follow these hunka hunka burning hosts on Letterboxd at run bmc and atpaulactsbadly, bubba. Oh, yeah. And follow the pod on Insta and talk clock goes the clock. The party don't stop.

Yeah. Mhmm. Back to the show. Damn, man. I'm having sex in for a year now, man.

I have to break them shit. Struggle's fucking real, man. Fucking real real. Everybody, we're back from the break. Thank you, Skyline.

What the heck? My computer didn't ask my permission. I haven't consented to this interview continuing. We're in control now. Oh, damn.

Look at me. Look at me. I'm the captain now. Oh boy. We are in control of what you see and hear.

Oh no. Well, I don't look forward to turning my porn selection over to you guys. That's gonna be weird real fast. Oh, buddy. We we've done episodes about porn for kids, so don't worry about it.

We're Well, that's for my friends. All your friends are on the app. Did you okay. Real news. Did you guys hear about the porn for kids things that Pornhub is putting together?

I am 100% Wait. Is this, like, sex positive, like, sex sex education stuff? Sex education. The logic Love it. Kids are gonna hunt this down anyway.

Why do we do some sex education? They might as well. I love it. Putting aside the title sounds dubious, you know, porn for children, I actually fully support this. Yeah.

Me too. No. No. I think that's great. I think that's fucking awesome.

Because all the fuck on your face before we gave context. Porn? Well, I've said this before I think on this podcast. Daniel Tiger, what are you doing? That porn is fantasy and that Yes.

Porn is a sex as Lord of the Rings is to walking down the street. You know, like Just to to venture. Yeah. You have to make sure you have that barrier. I've shared this on the program before.

I was allowed to watch 9 and a half weeks when I was, like, 9 and a half years old because my mom was like, you can't watch Terminator. People don't do that. You can't watch, like, lethal weapon. People don't run around just shooting people in the face. That's bad.

So you can't watch who has not who has not been seeing 2020 and beyond. Don't laugh at that. But but my mom, it's like but my mom was basically just like people have sex. I don't care if you watch that. Thank goodness she didn't wanna watch it with me.

Or like Wanna cut or like watch this? Or like how my brother watched Mulholland Drive with my grandparents for the first time. That's a lot of nipple. So we do a fun thing to figure out the order in which we will share our first viewing, the first time we viewed this movie and our original ranking. So And our current ranking.

And our current ranking. Following that right up. Following our more, recent viewing. So we've been playing this little game called Cinephile. It's a card game.

It's a card game. We will pick out of this deck a random actor and Stimpson. You're gonna get because you're on the digital, you will get the first, there's gonna be an actor on here and it's gonna say a movie and you will get and you don't have to use IMDB. No cheating. It sounds like you know each other.

So you get to use the first movie. So I'm gonna hold this up to the camera and let you read who the actor is and what the movie is. I'm gonna go with, Angelina Jolie, and the movie is hackers. And I know this for both funny we go back to the porn subject, but that vest he's wearing on the card, I remember that scene vividly. Okay.

Which is porn for you. Okay. Girl interrupted. We're we're gonna go around the horn and we're gonna say girl? We're gonna each say a movie and then it's gonna come back to you since then.

So you have to say you have to think of another movie. If you can think of one after mine what what was your Girl Interrupted. Wanted? Gia. Gia.

Oh, yeah. Good choice. Salt. Mister and missus Smith. Melissafant.

Nice. Oh, yeah. What's the subtitle of the sequel, Paul? Oh, shit. Yeah.

The good Queen of the Harpies. It looks like it's me. No. I think he nailed the subtitle. Queen of the Harpies?

I actually, Oh, shit. Queen of the Harpies. I think it was just Maleficent 2. Queen of darkness or something. I don't know.

Electric Boogaloo. Something and you gotta make that joke every time. Okay. So Paul's gonna start because he fucked up. I sure did.

So my first experience with this film was when I was working at Holly Weird Video, and I got an advanced, like, right before it was gonna hit the shelves, like, could take it home before copy, and watched it late at night and was like, I don't know what I just really watched. Part of it because it was, like, almost 1 in the morning. Right? So I watched it the next day, and was like, oh, this is cool. Like, I like this.

Like, it's kinda low brow or I I I feel like I could track some of the things, but it's it's good. So that viewing those those viewings, I give it 3, industrial size, but personal use tubs of dick cream, analgesic dick cream. This viewing, man, it's hard to not immediately just go, like, 4a half. Because I get so hard for it. That's almost where I get, but we know my maximum is 4 with that.

So You're a you're a hard 4. I'm a very hard 4 with this one. This is it hits so different as you get older and understand so much of it. And like I said, like, pathos. Thank you, Internet, for being like, by the way, this movie was a $1,000,000 dipshit.

Could you do this with a $1,000,000? This is one of those things that, like, you really feel that. Like, I kinda felt that with the fall as well where it was like, what the what? And it it seems like almost impossible, but at the very least, improbable. There there are certain movies, like, I I love seeing a good movie that is It is so fair.

It's the kind of good that it makes you physically angry while watching it because it's like, if I had all the money in the world, I could not do this, Where my anger is from a place of seething artistic jealousy and inadequacy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Bubba Hotep flirts with that. This is a great transition, Stimpson.

What's your first first time you viewed this movie and your ranking from that? Our mutual friend, Matt in high school loved to find weird movies, and he got, right when the film came out, the Bubba Ho Tep Elvis wraparound jacket special edition on DVD. And it was the random movie he invited me and Ben to watch. I don't know if it's the first time seeing it, Ben, but it was mine. It was.

And we were drunk and a little bit stoned. So I remember Okay, badasses. But not being, you know, deep into it. But I liked it enough that I asked Matt if I could borrow his special edition Elvis rap DVD of it, and I went home, watched it, and cried. And then I would watch it again in college, and I bring up part of this story, Ben.

Did you ever get his back? No. I have it right here, Ben. This is the DVD you watched it on for the very first time all the way back. Deal with that spike in your audio listeners.

That's so good. Is this a is this like a is this like an episode of This Is Your Line? This is your live. Matt, the wheel. Yes.

And, Ben, this is the same amazing. Copy. That's so cool. What's funny never getting it back. Matt Matt listens to this program.

So Matt, I'm sorry. You can't have it back. I'll bet on you $20. And now because my view first viewing was the same as yours, speak about your most recent viewing and how many out of 5 would you have given it? Wait.

Was the original did you already say your rating? Did I miss you? My original didn't count because, again, I wasn't all there, but I left it. I went home and watched it. And when I watched it coherent, I gave it 5 out of 5 chocolate peanut butter banana pies.

Okay. The thing about the film really with that thing about old age is even as an obnoxious little 17 year old, I got it. Part of the joy of this film is you don't have to be old to understand what it's talking about. And as a child, I got that, and it stayed with me. And every time I would rewatch it through college, it always got me more so.

And so when I went back and rewatched it, which was just a couple weeks ago after we talked about doing this podcast, I watched it, and wonder of wonders, I cried like a baby. That's weird that you say that because, like, I mean, like, I think it's weird because I didn't really get it when I was younger. But, like, since now, like, baby looked at me, and I'm not a piece of shit anymore. And now I get it. Well, I will say took a second.

I will say, Stinson, you've always been an old soul. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Nice. And we were very eclectic individuals in high school, and so I think this movie spoke to us.

I don't think anybody else at our high school was watching this movie. Let's say that. So this was like the double five from you though, Stimpson, like, before and now. Oh, yeah. And and Okay.

It was weird because I firmly expected that some of the shine would have gone off. That being older, that the themes would still connect with me, but having worked in the industry for my entire adult life at this point, having made stuff in this budget level, I really expected the gloss to come off the turd a little bit. You can polish a turd. Mythbusters proved it. Yes.

That's the reference I'm making. The gloss is still there. It is that it is that rare film that when you sit down and watch it, it's like, oh, I was absolutely right to love this as much as I do, and I still love it, and I'm gonna still pitch it to people to watch. Please, all anybody listening to this, ignore the other films they talk about. Just go see Bubba Ho Chiap.

It's so good. It's so good. Ignore us. Listen to You've line line Don Coscarelli and Bruce Campbell's pockets, and I'm not fucking kidding you. Do it.

I have a role in a movie recently, and he was not available. I tried to line his pockets in a very direct fashion. Just show up in Southern Oregon at his place in, Jacksonville or whatever. And No. The restraining order doesn't allow it.

300 feet. That's what happens when you go to Skyline. I want to just say first time I viewed it was in high school. Also the last time I viewed it, I would've given it. Yeah.

In high school when I viewed it, I know. I know. And I've and I've told people to watch this movie for a long time, since I've seen it. And then, like, pitched it in that capacity with Elvis, JFK, Fight a Mummy. And I would have given it back then.

I would have given it 5 out of 5 bedpans. I went into the re watch going, okay, I'm probably gonna go down a little bit. I'm going to come to terms with that now. And it was not I came down to 4 bedpans, not because I felt like the movie is any worse than when I first viewed it, but because of that my ranking system has altered since then, if that makes any sense. That I wanted to do a mathematical dive here.

Please explain. Just that 5 stars is rarely used for me anymore. It's for me, it's like 90 out of 32100 movies. It's exception. It's like 4, like, 4 and a half percent of movies I watch.

I think because What would you consider to be the divisible of a bedpan? And would that imply? A bedpan is worth, 5 potties. Okay. One bed Those are the awards for podcast.

Five potties. Okay. So would it still be just 4 bedpads, or would it be 4 bedpads and maybe 2 potties? I could give it 4.2. I could give it 4.

Well, that would be 4 bedpans by your math. That'd be 4 bedpans and 1 potty. The guest always pull this guy. No. It's funny.

I when I was younger, I didn't get and I looked at this movie as something that was like, this is novelty, and, like, it tries to have substance. And now as I've gotten older, it's like, oh, this movie is all substance, and it uses, like, potty humor or novelty to, like, cut how fucking brutal it is at points. Like, it has to use levity to make it palatable. I feel like we should jump into the movie. Yeah.

Let's let's fucking do it. God damn movie. God damn movie. God damn movie. God damn movie.

God damn movie. God damn movie. And now, our feature presentation. Just like the movie that just starts with, like, here's what these two things are that we smashed together in the great, like, Ben Hur looking credits. Oh, yeah.

That fly at you. Like, it's just the white on black titles of what a Hotep is, what a Bubba is, and here's what makes sense of what's been presented to you in terms of the title. I thought the I love the Ben Hur title. Yeah. I love it.

So good. It looks very high budget. It looks very event. Yes. It's so cool.

Stimpson is now showing the DVD cover to us, and we're now explaining it to the listener. Well and it's like, if you are walking by that movie on a blockbuster or Hollywood video shelf, and you didn't know what it was because it wasn't marketed at all or whatever, and you're like, wait, Bruce Campbell and Ozzie Davis? Because it's like, if you like Spike Lee or what, you know who Ozzie Davis is. If you like Sam Raimi, you know who Bruce Campbell is. You're immediately attracted to this movie because, like, these 2 guys aren't gonna do just, like, anything burn notice.

But, like, not really. Was Ozzie Davis in Burn Notice? No. Bruce Campbell was. Okay.

I mean, in fairness, that's part of Bruce Campbell's thing. He classes up the show. And on the podcast goes Ozzie Davis. Did you guys ever watch any of the the behind the features interview with Ozzie Davis about the film? No.

I can't I am paraphrasing grossly, but I remember a wonderful comment he made about why he wanted to be in the film, which was he was touched by the story in it, but he's no longer a leading man. And when you get to a certain age, and this is part of what spoke to him because this is part of the themes of the story, sometimes the best you can do is leave the stage gracefully. And he felt like a film like this spoke to that very theme. It's really kind of staggering to think about the fact that this was a guy in his, like, mid eighties and had so much energy and so much charisma. And this is another one of those people that has both of these guys.

But Ozzie Davis in this moment, such a great understanding of, like, timing and his position in the screen, what the camera is seeing, and, like, like, he doesn't over or under move. Like, his movement just feels so natural and frames. It it was almost hypnotizing at a couple points. So when we start the movie, we start at the Texas retirement home. No.

It starts in Egypt. Right? Or I'm trying to remember. Is it the or do we crash. Is it the crash?

Okay. It's the flashback of the crash, and then we're in the nursing home. We meet Elvis, and he's explaining the ailment with his dick. And Also, as time passes, one of the very first things we get is just this sense of sitting and waiting. Right.

Waiting. And he does a lot of speed. The film doesn't actually the film moves at a very brisk clip, So it does a lot of these kind of speed ramps before that was the Snyder thing to and it get the audience this sense of time just lingering and lingering and lingering. Yeah. And Elvis is in bed and you see people cleaning and moving things and doing and it's just like and he has not moved.

And the film uses that, like, that montage of multiple shots in the same location to show bad time passing. And we see his his roommate just screaming. Like Yeah. His roommate just like Coughing and In his old age just dying. Well Reaching Elvis's eyes.

Yeah. It's it's also, just talk about a scene that is grasping all the themes of the narrative of just this unnamed old man dying alone, desperately reaching out to the person who's near him who happens to be Elvis before slipping away without any acknowledgment or notice, which is the entire sense of what it is being old and forgotten. Yeah. The this whole movie is really about, as you were saying, like, Stimpson, getting older and being, like, cast aside, forgotten, becoming kind of like society's garbage or reclaiming, your life for a sense of purpose Mhmm. Or what have you, especially for Elvis and JFK through this.

But on a note of comedy in this moment before we get to the thieving old woman and something with glasses, I have to know. I love it's like that, Elvis or Sebastian or whomever you believe him to be has, like, I think must be prescription sunglasses that he wears inside all the time. They have those things. I know. It's hilarious, though.

It is a thing. Don Coscarelli really wants to put you in the environment again of just like that this is kind of like a living hell where the old woman in the iron lung gets her glasses stolen off of her face. It really gets you it it really makes you feel like you are waiting to die. Like, this is a waiting room to death. It's like Beetlejuice.

Correct. Yeah. You're just sitting there waiting for your next step, which is supposed to be, I think, Elvis says, he list reincarnation and a few other things that are possible after the human existence. And what is more humiliating in your last days than having something on your pecker? I mean, dude, I I mean, that's the thing.

What's more triumphant? In my present days, but What's what's what's what's more triumphant than your last moment being your ass getting eaten? I mean, that's a power move. Oh, you you can turn it. Yeah.

Because, like, that's what Boba Hotep does. Well, going back to, like, the old lady who steals the glasses, one of the things I love about it is as mean as the old bitch is, it immediately humanizes her. Like, the very first thing we see is this old lady who clearly has nothing else going on her life, going to her room full of her child dolls, having a bit of candy before bed. There is a Stolen candy. But there is a genuinely it's like it doesn't feel Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Gives us a reason to hate her, but it's also a It's humanizing. It but it is it's it's strange.

It's one of those things where in this movie, it's akin to in the eighties if you had unprotected sex or what have you, where it's like, hey. You're mean or what. It does not feel, as you said, like, mean spirited or what have you. And this is where I'm a little torn on the low budget piece of the movie with that old woman. I really like some of the stuff with the scarabs, especially as it's kind of shot similar to Phantasm, if you've seen that, or Evil Dead with Sam O'Cam, Slam O'Cam, Ram O'Cam.

If anybody's read any of Bruce Campbell's books or watched any of those commentaries. Anybody Bruce Campbell's books? I haven't. If Chins Could Kill. Okay.

I've done that one in Make Love the Bruce Campbell way, and I've had the pleasure of getting to meet him a couple times, and he's a absolutely delightful man. He's talking about his love in, specifically, in confessions of a b movie, his love and enjoyment of practical, which I share that, and I think Don Coscarelli shares that and stuff like that. The scarab at times is like kind of laughable and but I find myself like not wanting to like blame the movie or be like that looks dopey. I'm like, yeah, they had a limited budget. It's practical.

Like they took a swing. Like I said, there's like a a confliction about, like, oh, that's a little, like But I think for me at least, it fits the tone of the movie. Sure. And also there's a type of tone that comes with low budget b movies, particularly ones like this where you're not meant to laugh at the effect, but where you're just meant to actually take it seriously, which I think we're starting to see it happen with CG now, where people are so used to the elite level effects and not the crummy in between. That even with CG now, there is something almost lovable about the whole, we know we're not tricking you, but this is the budget we gotta work with, and we're gonna work with it.

I was watching a film the other day, which I'm not gonna name because when it comes to indie movies, I don't believe in trash talking small filmmakers. Sure. Sure. So I'm not gonna name it, but when I say it was trash, it was trash. But the thing that amazed me as I was going through it, because I had a lot of CG, the CG, while bad, wasn't that bad.

Like, it was on par with late nineties, early 2000, a firefly in some level of shots with the CG. It's not a Mortal Kombat Annihilation bad. What made it bad, and I'll say a Mortal Kombat Annihilation actually deserves a little bit of props here, was there was more sense of style in how it was delivering these bad CG. You can actually do a lot with bad CG if you've got a sense of style. And bringing it back to the scarab and Bubba Hotep, this to me is that same sort of thing where, yes, it's cheesy.

They know they're not tricking you, but there is style in how you're doing it. I love when the lack of skill. When it exposes, like, the head or the face before Bubba Ho Tep comes out, how it makes, like, a little like, it makes a little noise. Yeah. Like, I I like They knew exactly what they're doing.

I get that moment. They were laughing their asses off. I mean really like the little Don Coscarelli things. Like, the it's one of those things if if you've enjoyed things like genre horror, like, phantasm, low budget, independent genre horror that are just passionate people wanting to do cool shit. Yeah.

His signatures are all over the movie, which is really lovely. Yeah. I bring up with Bruce Campbell, but the the first two Evil Dead movies, phenomenal pieces of terrible effects shot with so much style that they look amazing. And ramp ups, lot of the the, frame rate changes and things like that. Yeah.

This is actually opening, like, a third eye for me. Just because I've always wondered where the disconnect is where you watch something that has for example, the effects in Jurassic Park, we all can universally agree hold up so well. Don't speak for me. Fuck you. And I think and I think that, like, coming back this one, I'm gonna agree.

There's Yeah. There's so much style in the way that Spielberg shoots it and goes between the practical and the CG. It was just at the, like, the pioneer of that sort of technology. And I'm guess like, that's where I'm coming to with, realizing why some CG still is so effective for me. Yeah.

And how some of it now, especially in, like, our modern The Flash or Quantumania worlds is so bad because it just obviously, they're not given enough time to do it. It just looks like every other movie. The the other and, Ben, I think you've really hit on something here. Sorry. We're moving away from jokes for a moment, but this is stuff I'm passionate about.

And part of the stuff you get into there is I think it requires a sense of self awareness. When you're doing comedy, when you're doing low budget horror, little bits in Bubba Hotep where the scarab's face gets revealed and has a Yeah. To make that joke, you have to be self aware enough to go, my prop does not look good, so I'm going to laugh with this. And when you look at, like, Jurassic Park, for example, compared to all the other CG stuff that was happening at the time, Spielberg is a skilled enough filmmaker. He is self aware.

He's able to look at this incredible technology and say, this tech is incredible, but it still doesn't look good if I don't film it right. And the thing you had for a solid decade of the odds into the early 20teens was filmmakers so enamored of the effect. They didn't realize the effect didn't look that good. It's lit horribly. Yeah.

That so much of it doesn't make sense. Could I could not agree more. So we get our, like, our second stint, I think, with the corners pretty quickly between So the scarab kills the old lady. Kills the old lady, and we move on to we meet Bull's daughter in one scene. Daniel Robec.

Sorry. Yeah. Daniel Robec. That's his name. Sorry.

Bull's daughter shows up to pick things up, and he's got, like, the drawer filled with random shit. And pick her under random butt. You know what I mean? And, dude, that's the first moment where where it hits me really hard, the the Bruce Campbell performance. And where I'm coming to terms with, like, oh, man.

I like voice over narration when people mean it. You came to terms with it last I know in our retrospectacus. But when Bruce Campbell is, like, I'm a fucking house cat to her. It makes no difference if she bends over and I see her panties. She, like, she could not care less.

Simpson, just one thing, before we started recording, I said something to Paul where I just turned to him and said, Bruce Campbell is so good in this movie. And he I would argue it is his it's not his most fun performance. He's done so much fun stuff, but from pure acting stuff level, far none, I would say it is his best acting of his career. I'm gonna okay. Before we jump into the next piece of the movie since we're on this subject, I think this is a Golden Globe worthy performance.

I think it's that. It is. Good. That would I don't disagree. And if we go over the nominees for 2,003, we're gonna save you the time.

I think you could replace the winner, Richard Gere, because I I think a lot of song and dance movies get a lot of credit because He was good in Chicago. Fine. I, to this day, am still angry about his casting in Chicago. He's fine. I don't fully understand it.

I would have rather seen Bruce Campbell there or maybe in the Hugh Grant spot in the following year. I don't love lost in translation, and I love Bill Murray, but I don't love the movie or necessarily the performance. I watched it a couple years ago, and I was like, oh, woah. Some of this hasn't aged the way I expected, yada yada. But I would have loved to have seen if it ended up being nominated for 2003.

Bruce Campbell being nominated in that spot. Wait. Hold on. Before we move on, you're telling me that Richard Gere won over Nicolas Cage for adaptation? And and frankly, Kieran Culkin or Adam Sandler for punk trunk love, it makes no sense.

No logic. Get even angrier? Please. Please. Verify this.

You will not find this on the Internet. This is something I have heard in my own rumors walking Must be true. Must be true. Go ahead. So I cannot verify this.

Don't look it up. Not the original casting choice for that character. In Chicago? Yeah. They originally offered it to Jim Carrey.

Now take a moment to imagine Jim Carrey as prime in that role. Imagine also the chemistry, like, between he and Renee Zoey. Dude, Jim Carrey, in terms of having chemistry with people So coming back to this movie, Paul and I No. No. No.

No. Paul and I are, I cannot verify that rumor. Sure. But but we had mentioned that, like, Bruce Campbell is such a gifted physical actor and he's a physical comedian. I mean, he's a clown in a lot of ways and I don't mean that in the That's a huge compliment.

Yeah. And then we had mentioned that Jim Carrey is probably the only one that really ever picked up that mantle And Between, like, the forties or maybe fifties or whatever and, like, a long time. Oh, yeah. So coming back to the movie, we get a beautiful layer of exposition. This movie is so goddamn good at exposition, through flashbacks and through JFK.

But this is where we get Elvis kind of, like, having the dream or the flashback with the nurse and and explaining, like, no. I switched with an Elvis impersonator because I couldn't do anything else but be Elvis, but I needed to break away from the bullshit. This isn't the most meaningful thing to break bring up, and it's something I always appreciated about this film is I like that it doesn't pussyfoot about the bush about the reveal of how Elvis is there. You get this initial introduction stuff to him. You have the scarab attack.

We have the bit with the girl, and then they just get right into it. We're hold on. I got we got Oprah here. We are 1:10 minutes into the movie. Oh, boy.

That they don't do this stupid mystery box. Is he? Isn't he? We'll wait till the end. It's like, no.

This is Elvis. Here's his backstory. Let's get into it. Okay. I think he is too.

Do you think he is too? Okay. Yeah. I I think, like, anybody who's like, I don't know, man. It's like you're you're making a mountain out of a fucking molehill here.

Yeah. I don't think it's important whether or not he is or not because he believes he is. So that's that's all the story needs. When Elvis is like, hey. Can I keep the purple heart and, like, the pictures and stuff like that, of Bull's stuff, his dying roommate?

And the the daughter's like, yeah. Sure. Whatever. I'm like, fucking amen. As I recently watched Bill and Ted's, excellent adventure, all we are is dust in the wind.

Like, it's just like that's that's another one of those moments where it's just like, this movie can be so goddamn cutthroat. But it really gets right back into those themes, which are just gonna keep beating the dead horse about how the sense of uselessness that comes with old age. We never get to know anything about Bolt. All his only scene in the film is suffocating and dying. Yeah.

Yeah. Even his daughter never came and saw him. Even Elvis says, like, oh, yeah. He slept next to me for 3 years. She never felt good enough to talk much.

He wasn't my friend. He was just my roommate. He was very specific to be like, oh, we were just roommates. Yeah. But, also, the things that from Bowl's life must have meant so much with the purple heart and stuff like that, it's trash to the daughter.

I I love that Elvis, though, like, even though he's like, he was my roommate, not even my friend. Can I have that stuff? Like even he cares enough. Like and the daughter doesn't. It's it could it could the movie cuts the legs out from under you Ultimate time.

And I thought a lot about like, my dad in this because he's in his seventies and just like just thought about what he thinks, you know, waking up every day being 73 and like Me too because I always constantly wish my dad was Ozzie Davis. So I knew this is a round when we meet this is good. This is when we around when we meet Ozzie Davis. JFK. I I they dyed his skin black, and they've replaced part of his brain with a sandbag.

Yeah. The part that was yeah. When he has a he has a scar. He does. I like and I always love the ambiguity of this part of the film because that is one of the joys because you could tell Elvis is just sitting there going, is this guy completely fucking nuts?

He says certifiable. Yeah. But he's not willing to say it out loud because he knows what it would say about himself. Well, it's like yes. Yes.

Well, and it's like, it's his friend. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's like his chosen family. It's not hurting anybody.

No. So, you know, least of all, him. He's got this amazing room that is like a duplicate of the oval office and, like, these great suits when he feels like wearing them. And Yeah. Like And he's got a model of the book factory or the book where the where he was shot.

Like, he's got this, like Dude, JFK is doing great, like, in terms of this situation. Also, I love to take him at his word Yeah. Because I love the reality of a movie where for no explained reason, no deep lore, Elvis and JFK just happen to be in the same old folks' home. There's literally getting it stacked by a mummy. It's not above a hellmouth.

There's no paper explanation required here. Nope. Just cuts. So now we get the the dream that as Sebastian Half, as Elvis, and, like, the performance. And even though you make good points, Simpson, we're seeing this flashback dream of of Elvis performing as Sebastian half.

The music in that is evocative of Elvis enough that I'm like, like, it's passable. Right. I think Elvis, though, he is such a cultural I mean, going back to one of the actors in this film was in a completely unrelated Elvis movie. Elvis is such a titanic figure in modern culture. And at this point, it's not even modern culture.

It's been 50 years of Elvis. I think he's sticking around as a cultural fixture. He is part of the modern, pantheon of American gods. Yeah. Copy by Neil Gaiman.

Yeah. Yeah. But I I I didn't I remember when I first saw the movie, I didn't really have any I didn't really notice that there wasn't any Elvis music in it, and nor did I really care. Right. I think now watching it, I was like, oh, I realize I know now why there isn't Elvis music, and I still don't really care.

No. I am such an idiot with music that prior to reading this on the fact sheet when you guys sent it to me yesterday, I still didn't actually know that until I Like, so this movie a dozen times. So I was like, oh, I I I learned this yesterday. I'm not 70. I'm not, like, a huge Elvis fan.

I don't whatever. You were, like, 80. I'm 88. Okay. 88 miles per hour?

I'm a little older for 1.21 gigawatts? The second scare of attack. Yeah. 2nd scare of attack. So, Bruce Campbell is in bed and determined he is not gonna use the bed pan.

He's gonna get on the walker, and he's gonna take his diseased poor situation. What is it? What is on his pecker? He has he has cancer. Can we back up, before we go to the scene?

The scene right before the end of that dream sequence is just, a scene which I've always it's when he's performing on the stage in front of It's Frank. Not as Elvis, but as Sebastian doing it in okay. To those to the uninitiated, the way Elvis died in this movie is when he decided he can no longer be Elvis, he found an Elvis impersonator named Sebastian who was such a spot on replacement that they could swap lives. And, yes, they do make a joke about Sebastian loving pie. Yeah.

That's what was good. That it was Sebastian who became fat Elvis. That was a nice touch. Yeah. It was a nice little detail.

One of the things just as an independent filmmaker, I love these things. When they were filming the scene of the concert, they had so little money for extras that a lot of the extras were unpaid and relieving to do other stuff. Like, they showed up as Oh, wow. Friends. So be like, okay, we can be for an hour or 2.

So we gotta go. So they started with, like, 50 people with the wide shots. And as the evening went on and more and more of their extras were having to leave Uh-huh. They're getting the camera closer and closer till by the end of the scene, it was, like, 10 people. That's amazing.

And if you know that watching it, you could see the close ups. There are not a lot of people there. Anyway, I just I did not notice that, though. Like, good job editing. Yeah.

Filmmaking, and it's also good film scheduling. One of the things that doesn't get enough attention from film, in the art of the craft is the work of a first AD and a producer and how you're making those battlefield decisions schedule wise. Because when you're at a budget like this, a lot of the time, you've just got to work with what you have and what you have may not be very good. That's part of the reason that I am so impressed by style because competency is hard to achieve at this level. And so I look at stuff like this and this scene, and I love that story about it because it's like, this is film school 101.

Every aspiring filmmaker could study from a scheduling standpoint the intelligence of that, Starting with your whys and getting tighter as you knew. I also think I also think the way the the way that the script is written is is is like we always talk about producibility in writing. Yeah. And I think when you write the script, there's a lot of it's producible. You know, you need you basically need one location, that you can get for, you know, however long.

Dude. It's just yeah. So anyway You you need the line producer of all fucking line producers to get this thing done for a $1,000,000 period. Well, now Well, and and, like, that that where they shot, that was an actual operating hospital until the eighties, and then it was abandoned for almost 20 years. And they did a pretty good job cleaning it up and refurbishing it, but a lot of that they left it, like, kind of dingy or whatever to be like, just so you know.

So much art design to the film. I didn't know that. It's so great. I love that. I think it's great.

I had to stop a big budget movie recently because they CG'd a shit load of water rather than just shooting on location. And I was just like, that's inexcusable. I can't do that. I'll cut this out. Stop giving you pause.

It's like, I don't actually know what to do, Paul. Like No. Were you PM? Were you on No. The wrong director halt the set.

And they're on a boat, and it's clearly CG water, and the lighting's weird. And I'm like, I can't do this. And it'd be like in a movie like this, they at least were like, hey. We found this abandoned place and got a permit and talked to whomever and, like, did the minor amount of work. Like, the ocean's international.

Just get on a goddamn boat. Like, what's the problem? Sorry. I'm sorry to make the conversation all about me for a moment, but the, feature that I did, that's premiering in a couple weeks, Tim Travers On March 9th in San Jose? The 9th.

Yes. We had to shoot we needed the city to look destroyed for our exterior scenes, and we couldn't afford to shut down a city. So we shot a lot of our exterior things at the abandoned Kaiser Aluminum Factory in Spokane, which is which is a goddamn death trap, by the way. Yeah. Fucking death.

We were doing head counts of PAs at the end of the day to make sure nobody had vanished down a hole. Oh god. Z nation shot there a lot too. Right? Z Nation is the studio that I work with.

That's my film with. So that's part of the reason we were out there is Z Nation. We nuke the the showrunner for Z Nation was at our test screening, but that's part of the reason we're out there. And Bubba Ho Tepp is a great example of finding these interesting places and working with it. Like, with us, one of the things we kept coming across was the notion that we could do the thing in my head that I've planned, or there's this really cool location 20 feet to the left that'll make your film look better.

Why don't we point the camera that way and doing that instead? And, I'm so interested to find out about how they did that same thing with this location. They're working with it and not cleaning up beyond a certain point. I've known filmmakers who will get an extraordinary location that's being loaned to them for free. But because it's not exactly like what they had in their head Ugh.

They will decorate it so much, you cannot see the thing that was extraordinary. Cut off your nose despite your face. Exactly. And it's one of those let's say you need an abandoned building, and you really want a factory, but all you're able to find is an abandoned movie theater complete with a working projector. Read, write the damn script.

You've got a movie theater with a working projector that you could be broadcasting public domain footage behind the villain. Like, for the love of God Oh, yeah. Embrace. Yeah. I always we've always talked about let your limitations be your inspiration.

Absolutely. Yeah. Necessity is the mother of invention. Yeah. The Scarab Attack, 2 where are we at?

We're, Scarab attack 2. We did that. That's right. You have Bruce Campbell get some little fight. Little tirade there.

I just I went on our own. You're good. It happens on this show. We do that. But, yeah, he uses the bed pan to trap it, and then it does a little, like, Tom Cruise, hang out in the in the bed pan.

Little scared of death. That is literally the frame I have it paused on right now in my window here. That is the exact frame I have. Fun fun fact that was actually Tom Cruise. Oh, cool.

They they they do this great job of, like, hey. These guys are old and don't have a lot of energy. So, like, one of the best things they can do is wait till the last possible moment to strike. And they're pretty consistent about that. And when Elvis stabs it with the fork, the scarab, and then sticks it in the the heater that they use to add this cool red ambient glow through the lighting while they're shooting it, but, like, electrocutes himself to light it on fire.

Yeah. And just to, like, propel us along a little bit here, he starts to He's got pee pee cancer. He's got He says it in the, he's like, I know I got cancer. They're not telling me. Something like that.

Yeah. He has to have somebody, lotion or moisturize his pecker. His ding dong. He's having dreams about his kids. And then JFK and he decide to team up finally, and they're gonna investigate the strange goings on.

That's the next, like, big thing. And and Kimo's because Kimo Sabi died. We met Kimo Sabi. And he's only called Kimo Sabi because he's dressed like the lone ranger. Right?

Yeah. We met him at lunch, and he was friends with, Elvis, but he went too far. Mind. Yeah. They do a good job of, like, the exposition of, like, well, why do you write that shit on the wall?

And JFK is, like, well, you know, he probably did it in Egypt. Like, there's always an answer. Oh, yeah. There's a justification. They find hieroglyphics on the wall of the of the shitter.

Yeah. Because somebody's a a hood. Right? For for a good time, call Cleopatra or something. Somebody a hood rat.

Cleopatra does the nasty. It's like I love the implication that this ancient Egyptian mummy is basically just an asshole in high school or, you know, an ADH student from skyline. Oh, yeah. Hey. Wait.

This episode is brought to us by Skyline. Be careful. We need their money. It's high school. It's a public high school.

Why do they need why do we They have a lot of money at high school. Dude, you have more knowledge at Skyline. You don't understand. But the exposition even about, like, the soul sucking where Ozzie Davis and and Elvis or Bruce Campbell, where they're basically, like, so this and they're, like, yeah, this and how it's always, like, correct. Like, how this movie's, like, let's not fuck around.

Like, let's just It's the book from it's the book he finds that talks about soul suckers, and they suck your soul out of any orifice. Yep. Any orifice. Mostly your ass in this movie, apparently. Not always.

Well, the the other thing I always liked about this movie relating to this is I love that the villain is a mummy. Yeah. Hear me out. Because there are very clear hard themes this film is working with, with old age, a sense of being forgotten. They could have done something with vampires, which are always thematic for the upper crossed werewolves, which are always about the idea of the animal inside zombies.

The masses are the evil. I like the thing with mummies specifically because Bubba is a geyser. Yeah. Solid I mean, he they were referred to multiple times as the ancient Egyptian Egyptian mummy. This is a movie about old guys finding their inspiration, and I think there's something very thematically appropriate that the villain is another old guy.

I agree. A really, really old guy. Yeah. I understand. Oldest.

Not as old as God. No. Not quite. Well, no. Well, BC, maybe older.

Oh. So not as old, but older, maybe. Wait. Are we still talking about Jim Carrey? Of course.

Always. Okay. So the when he's like, when JFK is offering the candy to Elvis and he's like, hey. Do you want a payday, baby Ruth, chocolate ding dong? And he goes, not my ding dong.

And he goes, well, I guess now. My ding dong. Also okay. So between those 3, what do you pick? I go ding dong.

I my my my grandma, Ruth, on Halloween every year would give me a king-size baby Ruth. So there's, like, a a nostalgia thread connected. Fair question. I ignore them all, and I go for the Reese's peanut butter cups. That's fair.

Okay. If that's an option, then yes. I don't The heat sorry, grandma. Candy. I don't hate Paydays, but I I don't know.

Yeah. No. Do question why they don't have chocolate. And I was at a birthday of yours a couple years back. Did you or did you not have Jessica make you a Reese's peanut butter cupcake?

I didn't make her do that. I don't make it. She just loves it. Make my wife do that. She made it for me.

She made him a b still had a Reese's peanut butter cupcake. Yes. She made him a Biscoff cake this last year. Yeah. It was so good.

Biscoff ice cream cake. It was so good. I like how we make sure to be like, oh, ice cream too, asshole. She's a pretty lovely lady. Damn, dude.

Thought I ate for dinner tonight, a baked potato with nothing on it because I'm on a diet. So this conversation hurts me. What kind of diet is just a potato? Salt? No.

No salt? The, the starch diet. Pepper? Actually, yes. Starch turns into sugars and also Oh.

Wheat. But don't get me started. There's actually a science behind this, but at least it was a sweet potato. That's that's a complex carbohydrate. Yeah.

Because sweet potato. What a what a sweet potato you are. Isn't he? And so they go and they doesn't is this when he gets that first face on face with Bubba Hotepp after he kills Kemosabe? Well, they go yeah.

They go into the halls and Kemosabe's he goes into the halls, Kemosabe gets killed, and there's, like, a brain exchange between the mummy and Elvis before Kemosabe is killed where where he kinda shows Elvis like They have a a Voldemort Harry situation. Right. And they make they make it very clear to make sure to tell us Kemosabe kept his soul. His his heart gave up before the point. Yeah.

He went Kemosabe went down fighting. Yeah. That was one of the things they've established that's important to know for people who haven't seen the movie is that if you get your soul sucked out of your asshole by this mummy Me? You you don't die. Your souls remains like He traps it inside him like Freddy Krueger.

Yeah. So you wanna die in a regular way, so you just die instead of getting your soul stuck in a in mommy's, intestinal tract chesticles. I like how, the coroners, they they try to be very careful to be like, yeah. Kimo Sabi went down fighting. He kept his soul, whatever.

And then the coroner just drop him, like, right afterward. Well, also like, just act natural. And also the scene where he has the mind meld where we get the background for Bubba. Yeah. Himself.

We get kind of a flashback to him just being a Mummified. Just a douchey mummy before he got mummified. It's kind of like, the Brendan Fraser, the mummy, but with 1 quarter the amount of money. Although they still with 1 quarter millionth, the amount We love Yeah. We we love the mummy on this podcast.

The mummy here. Yeah. And Brendan Fraser all the way. For for the record, that's I feel like that shouldn't be a controversial state. Yeah.

No. The Encino Man himself, dude. I know you're, like, big mummy. I'm big Encino Man and big Airheads. Mhmm.

Airheads is my favorite. Like, hey. What if we told Die Hard from the perspective of, like, the terrorists? And what if they were complete morons? I think and I I think I've reiterate I think I'm repeating Shannon Corbat here.

I think I like the mummy because because everybody in that movie fucks. Dude, everybody's so hot in that movie. Yeah. I gotta be honest. That's my go to first date movie.

Like Oh, good call. Show The Mummy. Everybody's gonna be thirsty by the end of the day. Although not as thirsty, it was George of the Jungle when he's playing with the horses. I gotta say, by the way, like, that's a good test for, like, are you fun?

Do you like to have fun? Like, don't be too serious. Let's just have fun. Is it that is a good test movie. Yeah.

I think so. Yeah. Elvis has gotten this dick cream put on by the nurse, and he got a boner. And that was a huge thing for him is, like, feeling alive, feeling like vitality was, like, I'm gonna have a hard on in years. He says it at a point, and he's very happy with himself that he's like, hey.

I'm still I still got it. Like, that's his thought where he's like, hey. I may have penile cancer, but I got it up. There's still some blood in my pencil. Let's go.

I remember I remember my my grandfather had a shirt that said, I still have it, but no one wants to see it. Oh, man. Does this can I have that shirt? Well, it goes back to the earlier scene with Boone's daughter. And it's very interesting kinda looking at that scene now where he's checking out the younger girl given how inappropriate some circles might find that now.

But I always like the fact that he's never object ifying, or he is acknowledging the fact that he's a nonentity. Yes. And part of the reason that hid his penis working is such a big deal is I may be a nonentity, but I'm not that nonentity. I mean, yeah, I think I don't I don't have a problem. I I feel like the the the statement of the is very clear.

It's I'm not dead yet. Agreed. And for for, like, for so long for men are you know, it is well known that you get to a point where it's harder and harder to get a hard on. Yeah. I was gonna say we get to a point where it's softer and softer.

Right? Right. Right. Yeah. Exactly.

And I think that that it, like, takes chips out of your your personality, your humanity Oh, you your sense of self. I think I have no ego now. Let's see what I really think in, you know, when I get to that point or whatever. It's like, you don't think you have an ego, pal? Really?

If we're not friends You think you're over that? Can you just text or call me? Absolutely not a problem at all. Okay. I'll make sure to let you know.

I I do like years, no conversation, just random text. Hey, Ben. My dick's not working, and I'm sad about that. And then Ben will be like, well, you're a 196 years old. How is this who cares?

Sends me a picture of his soft dick. I do. Yeah. Like, every other day, what's what's different? The weed duck.

I do love when soft, June 2nd, 2034. 1927, 1981, 18. Whatever. 1920. World's worst time lapse photo series.

It just looks sadder and sadder. So when Elvis is like outside with his walker, smelling the flowers, enjoying the day, and the nervous the nurse is like, mister half, you need to come inside. Like, you're getting too active, whatever. We need to rub that stuff on your stuff. And he's like he's like, you fucking harpy.

Leave me leave me the fuck alone. Like, just let me live my life. My life. Yeah. And he goes and he's like, I'm gonna go investigate.

I'm gonna go down this hill as he goes in classic, like, Bruce Campbell fashion. Like, only he does. The way that he, like, acts like he's he acts like he's clumsy as as well or better than anybody in modern since Jerry I don't know. Chevy Chase was pretty good. Chevy Chase was good.

Jerry Lewis, Jim Carey. And to get back in the whole pathos thing, this is such a real thing that old people experience. I remember when a grandfather was dying of Alzheimer's, the nurses were calling out my stepmom angry how she needed to come in and talk to him because he kept having too much ice cream in the course of the day. And I remember her being like cares. They were worried oh, exactly.

They were worried about it affecting his health. My stepmom's just like, he is in his eighties and dying of a brain numb Dude. Because he's let the man have his damn ice cream as much as he wants. My my grandma wanted a cigarette. I was about ready to just, like, go to the nursing home to sneak her in some cigarettes.

Like, it's just like, yeah. If people wanna have ice cream or have a cigarette, like, let them fucking have it. Seriously. Like, we were talking about it earlier tonight in the more serious phase in this conversation, but the idea of old folks home as death's waiting room. It's not death's waiting room because at least in a waiting room, they don't fault you for trying to get to the next room.

Yeah. These are some music. The thing about an old folks home is so often, not only are people trapped dead. Of waiting to die, they're trying to people are trying to keep them there without letting them enjoy. It's like, if I ever end up in old folks' home, I'm gonna do it like my great grand like my step grandma did who lived to be a 102 years old.

She started every morning with her triple shot of vodka, Smoke a cigar in the afternoon. Sometimes 2 or 3. I intend and you know what? I might just have dinner with a little dash of cocaine. What the hell am I worried about at that point?

It'll be available at the pharmacy by that point anyway. Fuck it. Who cares? I mean, my grandfather always said, if I ever if you ever have to put me in one of those homes, take me out back and shoot me in the head. The yeah.

Just oldies. What do you mean? Right? Yeah. Feel like Dude, my dad always says the same thing, and it always makes me sad because it's like, if I'm gonna kill myself, I'm gonna do something a little more creative.

Like, I want, like, I wanna Skydiving origin. Monster truck naked into the Domo. Holding fireworks on other sides. Hell, yeah. Rampage, Tacoma Dome.

And my coat's off. I wanna die a legend. Dude, that's the that's the thing that I love about this movie. This movie is it's funny. It's a funny movie, but the subject matter is very fucking serious.

Yeah. And if you don't understand it the first time you watch it or you're not old enough, you're not paying attention or you're too stoned or whatever, if you sit and go, I'm gonna watch this movie, you can't help but deal with your fucking mortality. You cannot help it. Ben and I were kids when we first saw this movie. Right.

And it resonated with both of us even at that age. It took me until this time. I mean, it took until, like, right after it was on DVD when I first watched it until rewatching it recently. So I'm gonna I'm gonna just gonna fast forward a little bit here. Please.

Yeah. Go. So we're good. No. You're good.

I just wanna make sure we're not, you know It's it's a lot it's more JFK exposition and Yeah. But we get to the point where they're gonna make the they make the plan, JFK and Elvis make the plan Yep. To stop this, soul sucking mummy because they don't think these people should die that way. They want they want people to die in grace. Elvis feels like he has a moment to, like, be a hero to do good or, like, be reinspired to live again, and he fucking does it.

Yeah. There's a wonderful conversation with the director and writer of this movie, same person, on the DVD, the one which sorry, Matt, but you're not getting this back ever. I stole this shirt from Frank. Shit, Matt. Yeah.

You you sent me that shirt I like to hear. But the the wonderful moment when they're talking about the, DVD special features in which the guy talks about how Elvis is a superhero. He was an original superhero. If you look at the way he dresses, the costumes, he was making his own worshiped. Your own costume back in the day.

And, really, all his movie is doing is letting Elvis exist in that role. Right. Talks about this in the DVD, actually. That's that's really smart. Yeah.

You're talking about things that that kind of exist in this or things in terms of the horror genre, a lot of the time, the the a thing that exists for the end of the movie is the taking of an inventory or the setting of traps, Like, the preparation for the final battle. And when they're like when when he's like, 2 bottles of rubbing alcohol, man. And I got this sprayer. We don't even have to throw it at him. I stole it.

I stole a hairpin and I, unlocked it and took it. I'm just like, yeah. Fuck it, man. Go for it. Yeah.

Well, it's like they know they're not going up the against the king of monsters. One of the things which I like going back the idea of Bubba himself as an old geezer as well that they're fighting, there is a weird meeting of equals as they go into the climax. He's surviving on the energy of other old tired geezers. Well, and he's they they even say, like, that he is purposely not going somewhere where he could get, like, more vitality. Right.

He's going somewhere where he knows the life force he's getting is limited, but it will be It's easy. It's easier. Yeah. It's undetected. Bubba's a lazy villain.

Me neither. Lazy. It's great. But he does come with some sort of supernatural elements like he can walk through doors, he can disappear at a dime, he can like reappear somewhere else. He has He has control these scarabs.

Yeah. These these little tiny I mean, Scarabs. Yeah. Do not. I I will I have said it before, and I'll say it again.

Minions are cinematic STDs. And we have let them in, and they will never leave. There's no here. I just gotta jump in right here and just say, I really can't express how much not only do I hate the minions, I hate illumination. Yeah.

I light that studio. Yeah. But I think you hate the French? Sing is okay. I will I will say that they Okay.

They work for their market, and that's children, and children love it. Not children. 2 old men. Porn for children? Ready to go face some children for some porn.

No. I am going to disagree that they make their content for children. You know why? Don Bluth made his content for children. Oh, yeah.

Land Before Time. Secret of the nims. Yeah. Stupid children. That's so yeah.

Fair enough. That's fair. That's fair. Well, we're living idiocracies. One of my it's gonna be it's gonna be Wally or idiocracies, one of the 2.

So when we get to the point where these 2 old dudes are like, alright. We're doing this. But when Elvis says, hey, man. Tell me one thing. Marilyn, Mel Minroe.

And he goes, that is classified information. Top secret. But between you and me, wow. The fact that he just says, wow. It's so and the delivery.

Wow. Yeah. It's such a wonderfully human reaction. You know? It and it's honest, and it's, like, gentlemanly in a fucked up way.

Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. And yeah. And, like, they connect.

And what I what you kind of talked about earlier, which I love is that he starts Elvis starts collecting these totems, and he wears them around Kimosabe's mask. Yeah. And he does use a slur for Native American. In the middle of that. In the middle of honor though for, from Yep.

Boom. Yep. Yep. And these are people people that he never said were, like, his best friends. But he cared.

But he cared, and they they're they're they've passed. And he's always carrying their honor with him. Their souls deserve to move on, man. And I think that that it says a lot about where he knows this where they both kinda know this is leading. His his motivations are so pure.

And I think but I think they both understand this is a one way trip. Yeah. I do I think that's ballsy of the movie. Sorry to cut you off, Stimpson. I didn't mean to, but I I I think it's ballsy of the movie.

The showdown's fun enough. You can this is where it's like, oh, this is a low budget movie. Like, you feel it a little bit more to me in the showdown. But it does, like, we were talking about Willow and Taking Swings, and we've talked about this movie and Taking Swings. And as you just kind of inferred, everybody dies in terms of, like, you know, JFK and, Elvis and and Bubba Hotep.

And it's all kind of earned. It is one of those and I think some I think part of this has to do with its journey into being old. Part of it is going out on your own terms. Like, if you worry about younger characters, it would all be about the life they have after this. The point of these characters is their life has already been had, and they're sick of being in the waiting room, being treated as not really people, but objects waiting to be moved on.

Good point. Battle when they go onto the end, it's not a tragedy that they're dying, but it's not a suicide either. It is this final moment of being empowered, fully alive human beings and going into that with the understanding of what that's going to cost them. JFK and Elvis are trying to win this fight. They are trying to win this fight.

It is not a suicide to them. No. No. No. No.

For sure. But they they from their bodies. Even if they win, they're not coming back. We we better get we better make it at 2:30 for how fast we are, not 245. Like, they even say it.

It's just one of those things. They know they could die, but the intention or the belief is not that they will. Right. But they're They're at peace. They're at peace with it.

It's earned. It's like we were talking about No Time TO Die. Yeah. There's a series of movies where you have I'm trying to remember the what's the name of the movie? Tony Jones, Donald Sutherland, they're old astronauts.

Oh, Space Cowboys. Yeah. Movies like that where they come back and they get to feel alive again. Right. And they get to feel what they were like, they're meant for something, you know.

And I've I've been talking about this a lot with friends about just wanting to feel like our skills are of use. That we're, like, useful to society, useful to ourselves, useful to the people we love. And that this is a deep point of insecurity for filmmakers and podcasters. We know what use we are. I mean, it's a it's a deep point of insecurity, I think, for anybody.

If if we go away, when folks like us go away at some point, And if, you know, the absolute bleakest future for humanity is true and we're replaced by AI, come on. Come on. And that's a totally different and I'm not saying it won't happen. It's just a totally different society. It lacks depth.

It lacks pathos. It lacks humanity. It's not a place where I want to be. And so I just you're saying something that really resonates with me where it's like, I just really I would really love to feel the value that I know I have and that folks like us bring before, you know, something that Before a mummy sucks your soul. I think that something that isn't necessary that exists so people can be lazy.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just I think troubling. I think we're touching on the last moment of Elvis's Yeah. Elvis well, first JFK, we see JFK go down and Elvis has to And he gets his soul.

Bubba Ho Tep got his soul. He died right after. Right? Yep. Because that's what they explained in the movie.

Yeah. And then the wheelchair comes around. He does a little does a little wheelchair I love that move. Yeah. Elvis gets the wheelchair that's barreling down a hill just like hops in it.

Well, he has a car crash. It's like a big Yeah. Big car crash moment, but as a wheelchair. It's like a ski lift. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, it's all charged up and the wheels are greased. Right? That's Yeah, baby. So We could use some wheels, baby.

But, yeah, we get we get Elvis takes down Boba Hotep in his last moment of just sitting there looking at the stars and the, the hieroglyphs that show up. Oh, it's so great. Also, did anybody notice that one of the hieroglyphs, when Boba Hotep is talking is just like a middle finger up at Elvis? Or he's like, suck my nuts, blah blah blah blah. The second time he talks, it's great.

I do love that. I do love the effects of the subtitle. The way it flies out of his mouth. It's really cool. Yeah.

The second time Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When he's talking to my mouth. Talks, it flies out, and it's like a middle finger.

And I love that Bruce Campbell has to burn him twice. Yeah. Like, that it's just like it wasn't quite enough the first time. No. Like, the the bit that stuck in my mind when we were talking about the high revels isn't when it's coming out of his mouth.

It's after Bubba's been defeated and Bruce is dying on the roadside. In the sky. Yeah. Yeah. And just and it it's so silly, and it makes me cry every single damn time.

Bob. Just as he's sitting there dying and the hieroglyphics come up, and it's just all is well. Yeah. Like, you can go. Like, yeah, you left the world a better place.

You can rest now. You may exit. You may age left. What a movie. Yeah.

Well, we've cut I got the goosies. We've come to the end of You want to do? I do a little. Yeah. Stimpson, he does have goo he's not kidding.

I got the goosebumps. It's a brill I was so happy when you guys reached out so we could talk about Oh, thanks. Because this is such a good move. Well and this is exactly what we part of what we ask for. Like, bring us something that's, like, you know, not super new, but, like, something that, like, people should discover.

Like, this is always something that I like where it's like, yeah. Let's let's bring you something that is old but new to you. What I love, I just love the history of my and Stimson's life with this movie and then coming back to it. It's that to me and speaks to the fact that we're getting old too. I I I can't speak for your other guests on the show, but I like to think this is the first time we can honestly say that the movie of the week is something that the first time I saw it and Ben saw it, it honestly say that the movie of the week is something that the first time I saw it and Ben saw it.

It was sitting together on Matt. Couch. Oh. Well, you're definitely the guest that we've had on that we've known about. I was I was only on Matt.

Couch that one time because I was too drunk at the alibi. I just had to sleep it on his couch. Wasn't the same couch, though. This was the high school couch. It reminds me in a different Are you sure that wasn't I'm cutting that out.

So I did an episode of television that, Bruce Campbell was in, sim same episode and, didn't get to work with him, but we were on set the same day. And, just wanted to make sure, like, I went out of my way to be like, oh, hey. Like, met you at a book signing, blah blah blah. Just so excited to be here working on, you know, same thing either way. And he was just like, oh, yeah.

How are you? And just, like, again, just like the nicest fucking guys. I'm just, like, you know, replaying army of darkness in my head as I'm staring at this glorious chin, like, jotting out at me or whatever in this, like, megawatt smile. Like, in person, you're just like, lordy. Like, it's like that thing will light up a stadium.

What a delightful human to have in our zeitgeist. Thank you. I am. No. No.

Oh. No. No. Not you. I thought maybe you meant because the story.

Me. Not oh, Stimpson. Me. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No. You me. Well, we should see if anyone's rankings have altered. Let's do it.

Let's start with Paul. I'm gonna come up a little bit. I'm gonna go to the 4a half. Not only because I think if not my favorite, one of my favorite moments on this podcast was, did you give it back? No.

And then just pulling out the jacket at DVD as Simpson just did again. And he's still doing it. But, I really believe and wanna say again that I was so wrong in looking at this movie as, like, a dick and fart joke that was trying to have heart. It's a movie with a lot of heart that throws dick and fart jokes at you to, again, to make it palatable. If you are wrestling with your mortality or existence in any way, this movie can be really refreshing.

It can make you swallow a little bit hard. But if you're going through that, it's a lot better experience than so many other things I can think of. It's 4 and a half personal use, but maybe industrial amount of ounces, analgesic dick cream. Stimpson, would you like to go or would you like me to go? I'll go because I feel like I'm the least surprising here.

I was I was 5 out of 5 untranslated hieroglyphic slang phrases, and I'm still 5 out of 5 untranslated hieroglyphic potty phrases. You do the nasty. Yeah. Cleopatra does the nasty. You too, though.

No? So do Yeah. Anthony Anthony has a small dick. That's what I said. So I feel like I am the least, exciting here because my view, it just has not changed.

This is a wonderful, wonderful film by any rubric of filmmaking, and more people should see it. I'm gonna wiggle up a little bit too. I'm gonna go to 4.5, Ben Pan. Nice. I think this movie has a lot of humanity and a lot of heart, and I think, I will continue to recommend this movie to everybody I meet and say you might not have heard of it.

The pitch might sound weird. Give it a go. Well, we we went through a bunch of Golden Globe nominated performances from a couple different years because of the weird release schedule of this movie. Mhmm. But Bruce Campbell should have been Absolutely.

If this movie were marketed and had a budget and all sorts of different things in a different world, but, again, you only get Sigourney Weaver nominated for aliens for best actress for horror movies. It doesn't happen a lot in horror movies. Just very rarely. Bruce has done bigger stuff. And, Bruce, if you ever listen to this show, we know you've done bigger stuff, but I truly think this was the finest acting achievement of his career.

It's really great. And Simpson would like to work with you. Yes. And should. And everyone on that end should there should be a meeting Simpson of the people once more to my calls.

Once more tell people about your plug plug yourself, and don't plug us. Stimson Snead, writer and director of Tim Travers and the Time Traveler's Paradox, premiering March 9th at Sinequest in San Jose, starring Felicia Day, Joel McHale, Danny Trejo, Keith David, and our lead actor, formerly an unknown, Samuel Dunning, who absolutely crushes it as the titular Tim Travers. I also play a role in it too, which I apologize for. Don't. And I'm just gonna say this.

Legends, dude. Legends. And fun fun people. I I I wish I had bad stories, which I can't I wish I had some bad stories to share, but honestly, it was refreshing getting to work with every single one of them. I can only imagine it was the experience of a lifetime.

Can't wait to see it. You can follow us on Instagram at reviewx2podcast. You can follow me at run bmc on Letterboxd and Instagram. You can follow me at paulaxbadly on Letterboxd. Our opening and closing themes were Jamie Henwood.

Our what are we watching theme was Matthew Foskett. Who does those other themes? That's me. Holy shit. Overall, we came up a full point on Bubba Ho Tep.

We went from a 544 to a 54545. I don't think I had to persuade you. I think the movie just spoke for itself once we started talking about it. Honestly. I don't think I had to make any cases here.

Stimpson, it was an absolute pleasure to have you. Truly. Folks watch Bubba Ho Tep. I watch this free on Pluto TV. And if you have a choice between Eastlake and Skyline, go to Eastlake.

Woah, this episode was brought to you by Skyline? What are you talking about? I mean, if you have a choice, don't go to either. I mean, boy, boy, howdy. Is that the truth?

Good night, everybody.