Rocky Horror Picture Show / Horny Aliens?! WE BACK, BABY! (Guest: Keiko Green)

Writer, Director, Producer, Actor, and guest Keiko Green returns for "The Rocky Horror Picture Show," (1975 d. Sharman). Starring: Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon, and Barry Bostwick. We approach the castle lair of Dr. Frank-N-Furter ready to party, for what has to be one of the Dr.'s most jovial, and moist affairs (except Rocky). The spills, the chills, the bumps, the lumps! It's alllllll here, and includes many tapestries! 7/8!

**All episodes contain explicit language**
Artwork - Ben McFadden
Review Review Intro/Outro Theme - Jamie Henwood
"What Are We Watching" & "Whatcha been up to?" Themes - Matthew Fosket
"Fun Facts" Theme - Chris Olds/Paul Root
Lead-Ins Edited/Conceptualized by - Ben McFadden
Produced by - Ben McFadden & Paul Root
Concept - Paul Root

Transcript

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Yesterday was Earth Day.

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Is it?

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Yeah.
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Fuck the Earth.

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I'm gonna have my notes.

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Every other day, we pollute the Earth we have.

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Oh my god.

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Earth Day is for

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Plant a tree.
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Touch some

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dirt.
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Hey, people.
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Welcome to the review review.
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My name is Ben.
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I am one of the cohosts of this podcast.

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My name is Paul.
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I am a cohost of this podcast.

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And the person you heard talking is return guest, Jacob Green.

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Hey, everybody.
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Yay.

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Whenever you hear someone just, like, loudly laughing, you'll be like, oh, that's her.

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She's

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just having a ball.

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If you haven't listened to our previous episode with Keiko, you should go back and listen to Earth Girls Are Easy.

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Thank you.
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That's right.

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I've written some gems.
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You've written some gems.

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I have a question right up front.
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Keiko, is there any way that you can from here forward, because I'm planning on making sure that you're back after this, but that you bring a movie about horny aliens in disguise every time.
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Wait.
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That's so funny.
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Set the bar.

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Yeah.
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I I just think that if people really think about the movie predator, he'll just know like he just wants, like, a little b j.
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ET.

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You know, like, ET, his finger?

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Way too long.

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Way too

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long.
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Yeah.
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Have you seen the predator's face?
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Like, you know Great.
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When when I look things up?

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ET and the predator would go, I think.

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Is that the alien from Mac and Me was the predator in E.
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T.
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Oh.
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Can

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you now please edit in that whole sequence

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from When

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when it's in a little, like, shopping

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cart?
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Yeah.
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What?
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Didn't you tell me that the alternate ending, he he gets killed?

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He gets, like, shot in the chest in the whole, like, shopping Do you shoot it?
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Parking lot, like, blows up.
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It's on YouTube.
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It's

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absolutely nuts.

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That's insane.
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Yeah.
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For for American audiences, they were like, no.
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But, like, everywhere else in the world, they were like, they're ready.
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Yeah.

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They're ready for this.
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Oh, man.

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What is this show about?
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You might be wondering at this point in listening to us.
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This is a movie podcast where we have a guest.
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A guest will bring us a movie, something that they've seen before, something they may feel passionately about.
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We're in the middle of sweaty seventy summer where we ask our guests to bring something from the night dream seventies.

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Yeah.
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You know, just everything's wet, sweaty.
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Chests are sweaty.

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Anony like what?
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There's a

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lot they ever.
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Yeah.

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It's like a die hard with a vengeance kind of the either first act of that movie, but all the way through.

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Wet, you know.
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Or yes.
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Or or greasy, like, in this movie.

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One one might even say.
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Moist.

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Yeah.
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Moist.
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There's nobody Nobody wanted to say it.
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There's some Keiko stepped up.

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In this movie, some oiling and some Oh.
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Anyway Yeah.
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They bring us that movie, and they come at us with a rating out of five.
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We then all watch that movie.
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We come together.

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We chat.
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We discuss, and we see if our rating out of five has changed at the end.

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Discourse.

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Friendship.

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Love it.

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Clear.
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It's clear.

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But before Love it.
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Oh, I just keep doing that, and I'm so sorry, everybody.
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Wow.
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Wow.

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Oh, wow.
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The camera zoomed in when Keiko said,

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oh, wow.

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I feel like I just did, like, a gym a gym in the office, like, talk to the camera.

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I had a hole in this

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little beast.
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Keiko, talk more about what you've been up to.
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What you've been doing?

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Oh, baby.
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Well, I've been doing a lot of theater, which is the coolest.

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We love theater.

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But I actually was I worked on another TV show.
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I worked on, the show on Apple TV called Margo's Got Money Troubles.

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Okay.

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It's an insane insanely stacked cast.
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It stars I I and I was on set today for my episode.

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Oh, gosh.
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Oh, very cool.

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I'm not working yet.
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They just let me hang out.
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And then I after a while, I was like, I'm bored.
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Bye, everybody.

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Which is

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the best part about not working this.
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I was like, I just feel like, oh, hey.
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Bye.
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But the cast is Elle Fanning

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Okay.

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Michelle Pfeiffer

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Oh my gosh.

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Nick Offerman, Nicole Kidman

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Oh my god.

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Greg Kinnear, Marcia Gay Harden.

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Talk about sexy cast.

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Insane.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I've only met Ellen Nick out of those people, but I'm gonna meet Marcia Gay Harden on Friday, and I'm, like, so psyched.

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What what a way to have your, you know, realization of your work and that be part of that.
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Holy shit.
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That's so cool.

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It's, like, insane.
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And it's, like, but it's, like, not coming out for another year.
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So you know?

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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.

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That's the better.
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I did read your LA Times interview.

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Oh my gosh.

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Well, if I Then send

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it to me as well.
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Wow.

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Yeah.
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I got I've been getting, like, a lot of love on this play that I have up down at, Costa Mesa, South Coast rep called You Are Quarsley Invited to the End of the World, which closes on May 3.
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So there's only, like, a little bit of time left, but it's it's I can't say where it'll be next, but it does have a another promotion coming up, which is very exciting.

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Great.

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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's been busy, and then I'm off to Chicago next week to open a tiny little show.
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It's like a two hander with a dog, a real dog.

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Oh, you

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wrote a show where they had to get a real dog?

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Yeah.
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An English ball dog, specifically.
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Amazing.
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And that's, it's called Gorgeous.
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That's the name of the bulldog in the show, and it's gonna be at Raven Theater starting in, like, midnight.

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Yeah.

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Did you get to have anything to do with the casting of the animal actor?

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I did not.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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No.
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Actually, I I mean, I I was at one point, like, thinking getting a purebred dog is kind of like a big ask for a smaller theater.

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Yeah.
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And it's

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like, that's the dream of having, like, a two hander is like, it's easy for a small theater to do.
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But it's but actually, they showed me how easy it is.
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They just, like, reached out to, like, a bulldog rescue, and they were like, oh, yeah.
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We got two.
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And then their their names are, like, Maggie and Delilah or something.

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You know?
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It's so cute.
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They sent me these bulldogs, and I'm like, this is who we have.
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And I'm like, fantastic.

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Are the dogs on stage a lot?

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No.
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We never see them.
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We just hear the dog barking inside for a long time and, like, hopefully, the audience is like, oh, man.
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They put a bulldog on the poster and we're not even gonna get to see it.
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Shucks.

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And then, right at the end, kabablammo.
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We got, like, two scenes of that.

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There it is.

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Paul, what you've been up to?

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Me?
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Woah.
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Yes.
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I made a fantastic steak last night.
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And maybe not everyone enjoys a steak, but I just wanna say, we got a sirloin steak.

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Yeah.
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Did medium high cast iron.
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One side, two minutes.
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Other side, two minutes.
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You know, salt, pepper, butter, rosemary, all that stuff.

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Rosemary.
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Okay.

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Then turned it down to, like, lowish.

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Okay.

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Flipped it about ninety seconds about ninety seconds.
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It was phenomenal.
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It was so delicious.
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And I said it listen to how quick that recipe was.
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It's so easy.

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Anyone can do it.

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I I I I guess I'm always terrified of cooking steak because that feels like a because I'm saying this, a man's job.
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But I I do I'm always like, oh, no.
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It's, like, hard.
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But when you just described it, I've I've really felt like something I could do.

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Thank you.
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That was my goal.
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I'm talking about this.

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How do you feel about cooking meatloaf?
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I

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love love a loaf.
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Okay.
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I mean, you

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can have your pudding if you don't eat your meatloaf.
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I

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mean, I actually, though, my husband is more the baker, so he should also do that.
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Oh.
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He should do the man's job and also the woman's job.

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Just the jobs.
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The jobs.
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Any job that I decide.

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Cooking.
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The kitchen jobs.
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Yeah.

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He he's in Seattle right now.
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Right?

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He's in Seattle doing a crazy, like, immersive show at the Georgetown steam plant.

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Crazy.
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Oh, very cool.

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In George Georgetown neighborhood, obviously.

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It's it's a company that did it they did it in LA first.
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They it's called oh, shoot.
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What is it?

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They do, Georgetown, that place does, like, haunted houses during

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Oh, that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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It's called Shape Of Night.
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I remember that that's what it is.
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And but we went to go see the one in LA.

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It was, like, in a random warehouse.
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I truly thought I was, like, in the wrong place because I was trying to get in.
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I know one of the writers on it from from here.

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I didn't know that LA had any immersive theater.

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There's, like, a lot of immersive theater in LA.
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I'm gonna okay.
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Next time there's something, I'm gonna drag you along.

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You should.
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Ben.
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Yes.

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What have you been doing?

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Well, we're still

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in my I love this theater thing.
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Sorry.
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Like, this scene world.

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You want a show?
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We'll give you a fucking show.

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Yeah.
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I got a

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fucking show for you.
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It's called the time machine.
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You can fucking see it.
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Alright?
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Yeah.

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I got a fucking show.
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It's just for you, Paul.
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I made the show directly for you, and I almost canceled it because of Trump getting elected.

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That totally adds up.

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You need to stop getting elected, you guys, because No.
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Legally.
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Yeah.

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Legally.
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Legally.
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Legally.
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Legally.
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Yes.

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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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That's what they're hoping is the I don't know.
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Like Legally.

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They don't

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really shit instantly.

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Now hear me out.

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But hear me out.
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There there could be a loophole where he could have unlimited play.

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But, yes, the Time Machine, Hollywood Fringe, Broadwater Second Stage.
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Come check it out.

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Oh, you wrote you adapted it and you're directing it.

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I did.
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Yeah.

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Oh my god.
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You're you're just, like, you're the power, the greed.
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We'll

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see we'll see if that was a bad choice once we get to opening it.

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I'll let you know.
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If I when I see the show, I'll stand up and look to you, and I'll either give you a thumbs up or

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a thumbs down.
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What's funny is fringe is challenging in some ways.
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Joaquin Phoenix and Claudia.

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Yeah.

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And then someone kills me.

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Are you not entertained?

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Oh, can I play Maximus?

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You can.
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Yeah.

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I've been warming up.

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Yeah.
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He's been remembering.
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He's ready for the clients.

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You don't wanna pull a muscle.

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Yeah.
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And and not in a skirt like that.
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No.

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But then, honestly but okay.
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Let's get real for a second.

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Please.
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I

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I was I was like, because there was a point where I was opening this show that's done at South Coast, and I was, like, waking up in the morning, trying to get rewrites in, getting on meetings, going to rehearsal, trying to fucking fix everything within, like, four hours during the break think trying going to, like, meet do a panel at the fucking whatever.
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Go to the preview.
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Stay after the preview to for notes, and then stay at the theater just with the director talking about how we can fix everything until, like, midnight.
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And then, like, you and and and then, like, you when you leave, you don't leave it there because it's like and that that's the thing that's so hard.
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Like, I think people are you know, I think people who don't have a passion, you know, yes.

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They look at people who have a passion and they're like, wow.
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That's so great.
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But also what's so hard about to having a passion and, like, doing it is, like, it you're never gonna be able to, like, leave your thoughts about that show at the rehearsal.
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You're always gonna take it home.
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You're gonna you're gonna be, like, thinking about how that could be better, this could be better while you're showering, while you're making food, and that is also, like, emotionally exhausting.

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Yeah.
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You know?

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Absolutely.
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But really yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.

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That's all.
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That's all.
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That's the life we signed up for, I guess.

00:12:00 [Speaker 2]
Well well said.

00:12:01 [Speaker 3]
Uh-oh, you guys.
00:12:02 [Speaker 3]
This this episode is not bringing a lot of so far.

00:12:08 [Speaker 1]
Oh, don't worry.

00:12:09 [Speaker 2]
Farce, so forget about it.
00:12:10 [Speaker 2]
Because

00:12:10 [Speaker 1]
But we haven't gotten to the transvestite transsexuals from Transylvania.

00:12:15 [Speaker 2]
We haven't even said.
00:12:16 [Speaker 2]
Technically, we've left some, like, some context clues, like, you know, horny aliens in disguise.

00:12:24 [Speaker 1]
Oh, Mac and me.

00:12:26 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:12:26 [Speaker 2]
Mac and me.
00:12:27 [Speaker 2]
The son of predator and ED.
00:12:30 [Speaker 2]
They should have used that as the tagline.

00:12:32 [Speaker 1]
And before we get there, we have to talk about what you've been watching.

00:12:52 [Speaker 3]
Oh, Righteous Gemstones.

00:12:55 [Speaker 1]
Right?
00:12:55 [Speaker 1]
Yes.
00:12:56 [Speaker 1]
I need to start that.

00:12:57 [Speaker 2]
Thank you.

00:12:58 [Speaker 3]
I didn't watch Righteous Gemstones for a long time because I thought it was just going to be silly, but it's actually, like, a really good it's also really funny, but it's actually, like, an action comedy.
00:13:09 [Speaker 3]
And the action is cool as hell.

00:13:11 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:13:11 [Speaker 2]
It's great.

00:13:11 [Speaker 1]
You're saying.

00:13:12 [Speaker 3]
Highly recommend it.

00:13:13 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:13:13 [Speaker 1]
You're, like, the fifteenth person to recommend it

00:13:15 [Speaker 2]
to me.

00:13:15 [Speaker 1]
So

00:13:16 [Speaker 3]
You would really like it.

00:13:17 [Speaker 1]
I was talking about this with someone yesterday where I was like, I hate megachurches.
00:13:21 [Speaker 1]
So there's, like, part of me is like, ugh.

00:13:24 [Speaker 3]
And and they don't, like, actual I mean, they make fun of the greed, but but I actually respect that they don't that the characters aren't like they actually do believe in all that shit, and I think that's that's, like, cool that they give them that.
00:13:36 [Speaker 3]
But it was like, Edie Patterson.

00:13:38 [Speaker 2]
Oh.
00:13:38 [Speaker 2]
Have you

00:13:38 [Speaker 3]
ever seen Edie Patterson is is, like, the funniest female on on TV right now?
00:13:44 [Speaker 3]
I mean, she's just and her her performance alone is worth watching all seasons of Rachel's songs.
00:13:50 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:13:52 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:13:52 [Speaker 2]
The her as well as Walton Goggins.
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And I can't remember the name of the actor, but the

00:13:59 [Speaker 1]
John Goodman.

00:14:00 [Speaker 2]
Character Keith.
00:14:01 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

00:14:02 [Speaker 3]
Oh, yeah.

00:14:03 [Speaker 2]
The guy who plays Keith, there is a monologue that he does about because he's a former Satanist about where he's romanticizing about Satan pissing all over everyone Yeah.
00:14:15 [Speaker 2]
And that it's like it tricks people and makes you think it's a tasty wine cooler and whatnot, and it is one of my favorite little baby monologue performances.
00:14:25 [Speaker 2]
Oh.
00:14:25 [Speaker 2]
And I've seen in a long time.
00:14:27 [Speaker 2]
It's really, really funny and

00:14:29 [Speaker 3]
If you watch that and then Edie Patterson snail trails monologue and then you're And Wotancong is also on, White Lotus season three, which was I I also I I think people, like, didn't like that season as much, but I loved it.

00:14:43 [Speaker 2]
I thought it was pretty good.
00:14:44 [Speaker 2]
I mean, I loved season two, but I like season three.

00:14:46 [Speaker 1]
I liked season three.
00:14:48 [Speaker 1]
I like the middle of season three a lot.

00:14:50 [Speaker 3]
Of White Lotus?
00:14:51 [Speaker 3]
Mhmm.
00:14:52 [Speaker 3]
Oh, I feel like people, like, dropped off in the middle is what they were saying.
00:14:55 [Speaker 3]
So I love that that's the part you liked.

00:14:56 [Speaker 1]
I thought the middle like, the episode arc of, like, the party into the hangover?
00:15:01 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

00:15:01 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:15:01 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:15:01 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:15:02 [Speaker 1]
I thought that was some of the best writing.

00:15:03 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:15:04 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:15:04 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:15:04 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:15:04 [Speaker 2]
I

00:15:04 [Speaker 1]
didn't like the ending.

00:15:06 [Speaker 3]
Sure.
00:15:06 [Speaker 3]
Sure.
00:15:06 [Speaker 3]
Sure.
00:15:06 [Speaker 3]
I hear that.

00:15:07 [Speaker 1]
That was for me though.

00:15:08 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:15:09 [Speaker 1]
But I thought the middle part and I thought, like, leaning into, like, the the Buddhist themes and this idea of identity and, like, what we present and who we are.
00:15:17 [Speaker 1]
I thought that was, like, really great.
00:15:19 [Speaker 1]
But I do think Mike White projected really easily who was gonna die.

00:15:24 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:15:25 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:15:25 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:15:25 [Speaker 3]
I I did think it was gonna maybe that was a red herring, but I was like, oh, no.
00:15:30 [Speaker 3]
Mhmm.

00:15:30 [Speaker 3]
But it we did, when we were watching White Lotus, we because of that, we watched started watching Survivor for the first time, although the Mike White season.

00:15:39 [Speaker 1]
Have you

00:15:39 [Speaker 3]
seen it?

00:15:40 [Speaker 1]
I I watched the first couple episodes of Mike White because I

00:15:42 [Speaker 3]
It's just like I've seen a picture of him or a video of him holding a glass of wine with one hand and, like, digging through sand with the other hand.
00:15:49 [Speaker 3]
And I was like, I just have to see that.

00:15:53 [Speaker 2]
And I'm

00:15:53 [Speaker 3]
like and it comes so late in the season that we just watched the whole show and now I like I guess, I like Survivor now.
00:15:59 [Speaker 3]
Fine.
00:16:00 [Speaker 3]
Great.

00:16:00 [Speaker 2]
Why not?
00:16:01 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:16:02 [Speaker 2]
Ben, kinda what you were saying about the Buddhist piece of it, and I really I love the Carrie Coon performance

00:16:09 [Speaker 3]
Oh my god.
00:16:10 [Speaker 3]
Yes.

00:16:10 [Speaker 2]
In that Yeah.
00:16:11 [Speaker 2]
Just to the point of what you're talking about and that character kind of being an embodiment of those feelings at points.
00:16:17 [Speaker 2]
I don't I just love that performance so much.

00:16:19 [Speaker 1]
She's great.

00:16:20 [Speaker 2]
So I

00:16:20 [Speaker 3]
She's so amazing.

00:16:21 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:16:21 [Speaker 2]
I really liked season three, like, quite a bit for various reasons, but season two is goated for me.
00:16:27 [Speaker 2]
I love it.
00:16:28 [Speaker 2]
I agree.

00:16:29 [Speaker 1]
What have you been watching, Paul?

00:16:30 [Speaker 2]
Oh, me?
00:16:31 [Speaker 2]
So I started I started what I thought was a t a television streaming program called The Order starring Jude Law and Ty Sheridan and Nicholas Holt.
00:16:44 [Speaker 2]
And I got about

00:16:48 [Speaker 1]
I've never heard of this.

00:16:50 [Speaker 2]
3035.
00:16:51 [Speaker 2]
It's Justin Kurzel.
00:16:52 [Speaker 2]
He did the Fassbender Macbeth and Assassin's Creed with Fassbender.

00:16:58 [Speaker 1]
Both.
00:16:58 [Speaker 1]
And Great.

00:16:59 [Speaker 2]
This had a small theatrical release and is now streaming on Hulu.
00:17:05 [Speaker 2]
But the thing that was throwing me about it was that it looked like it was something for streaming, and then I got thrown by the pacing in a couple points and then was like, oh, I'm watching I'm watching a movie.
00:17:21 [Speaker 2]
But I didn't dislike it.
00:17:22 [Speaker 2]
It was just one of those things that felt like it was TV for a moment.
00:17:25 [Speaker 2]
It looked like it was for streaming, and then it was like, wait.

00:17:28 [Speaker 2]
Something's happening here.
00:17:31 [Speaker 2]
And figured out it was a movie and did not think it was bad.
00:17:35 [Speaker 2]
I liked it despite the fact that I was like, are you sure?
00:17:39 [Speaker 2]
What is this?
00:17:40 [Speaker 2]
But I also watched this really

00:17:42 [Speaker 3]
This TV show was way too short.
00:17:44 [Speaker 3]
What?

00:17:45 [Speaker 2]
Did they just compile all the quibbies together and make one big quibbyte?
00:17:51 [Speaker 2]
But the business insider kinda small twenty minute documentary about Pantone, the color people.
00:17:59 [Speaker 2]
Oh.
00:17:59 [Speaker 2]
So if you're folks who use Adobe or all sorts of design programs or make clothing or make labels or marketing.
00:18:08 [Speaker 2]
Pantone kind of is the standard for colors kind of as we know them.

00:18:14 [Speaker 2]
And it is just this insane monopoly conglomerate money making thing, and it's all based on kind of a created language to understand a number and letter means this exact shade of green, which we call pine or whatever it might be.

00:18:35 [Speaker 3]
So so Pantera is is bad?

00:18:38 [Speaker 2]
So it's not that they're necessarily bad

00:18:40 [Speaker 1]
because they're I'm lost.

00:18:42 [Speaker 2]
They're in business to make money.
00:18:43 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:18:44 [Speaker 2]
But it's just Adobe now, you have to pay $15 a month to get access to the full color palette because Pantone gets that money.
00:18:55 [Speaker 2]
Your color wheel that you get from Pantone is many thousands, like, $9 sometimes.
00:18:59 [Speaker 2]
It's like $10

00:19:01 [Speaker 1]
because they get paid.

00:19:01 [Speaker 2]
And the color chips will fade over time or what have you and how it was just like It's just really sad.
00:19:06 [Speaker 2]
Fascinating to learn so much about the world of color.
00:19:11 [Speaker 2]
I had a great time.

00:19:14 [Speaker 1]
Okay.

00:19:15 [Speaker 4]
What are you watching?

00:19:18 [Speaker 1]
I started season two of Light and Magic, the ILM.

00:19:21 [Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah.

00:19:22 [Speaker 3]
What is ILM?

00:19:24 [Speaker 1]
Industrial Light and Magic, the studio that started because of Star Wars.
00:19:29 [Speaker 1]
Oh.
00:19:30 [Speaker 1]
It's season two.
00:19:31 [Speaker 1]
So first season talks all about JBJP.
00:19:34 [Speaker 1]
Talks all about for the c the first season was all about Star Wars New Hope, and then this season goes further into the timeline.

00:19:41 [Speaker 1]
Oh.
00:19:41 [Speaker 1]
And it's pretty insane.
00:19:42 [Speaker 1]
You brought up Adobe.
00:19:44 [Speaker 1]
The old that I know

00:19:45 [Speaker 3]
It sounds like sorry.
00:19:46 [Speaker 3]
Is this narrative or is this

00:19:47 [Speaker 1]
like Documentary series.
00:19:48 [Speaker 1]
Okay.
00:19:49 [Speaker 1]
So it's got behind the scenes sort of Yeah.
00:19:51 [Speaker 1]
It's fascinating.
00:19:52 [Speaker 1]
I think it's absolutely fascinating, especially More

00:19:54 [Speaker 2]
fascinating than colors.

00:19:55 [Speaker 1]
Little.
00:19:56 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:19:56 [Speaker 1]
Well, it's funny you brought up Adobe because I didn't realize that the program of Photoshop was birthed from one of the ILM softwares Oh, wow.
00:20:04 [Speaker 1]
And then sold to a company that started to be Adobe.
00:20:07 [Speaker 1]
I also didn't realize that George Lucas was part of creating the Pixar computer, which created the first computer graphics, which then was sold to Steve Jobs Wow.

00:20:19 [Speaker 1]
To create Pixar.
00:20:19 [Speaker 1]
Crazy.
00:20:20 [Speaker 1]
Jess and I were watching and just like, George Lucas and Star Wars has had such a huge impact Yeah.
00:20:26 [Speaker 1]
On the technology and future.
00:20:29 [Speaker 1]
They're like James Cameron, Ron Howard, Steven Spielberg, like, all these people who went to ILM after Star Wars to push the genre forward in a way.

00:20:39 [Speaker 1]
It's fucking wild.
00:20:41 [Speaker 1]
And we got to the Raiders of Lost Ark part, which just candy for me because that's my that's my shit.
00:20:47 [Speaker 1]
Highly recommend this.

00:20:47 [Speaker 2]
Ben did a nom nom nom motion with his fingers toward his mouth.
00:20:51 [Speaker 2]
Nom nom nom nom.

00:20:53 [Speaker 3]
He's not making kissy sounds.

00:20:54 [Speaker 2]
No.
00:20:54 [Speaker 2]
No.
00:20:55 [Speaker 2]
No.
00:20:55 [Speaker 2]
No.

00:20:55 [Speaker 4]
No.
00:20:55 [Speaker 4]
Not eating.
00:20:56 [Speaker 4]
Not even a little bit.

00:20:57 [Speaker 1]
This is kissy sound.

00:20:58 [Speaker 2]
Nom nom nom nom.

00:20:59 [Speaker 1]
This is eating sound.

00:21:00 [Speaker 3]
Oh, great.

00:21:01 [Speaker 2]
Do you need me to send this to you for your voice over reel?
00:21:03 [Speaker 2]
Or

00:21:06 [Speaker 1]
and I also went into the 70 millimeter IMAX of sinners.

00:21:10 [Speaker 3]
Oh, don't say anything.
00:21:11 [Speaker 3]
I heard it's really good.

00:21:12 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:21:12 [Speaker 2]
I don't I don't wanna have

00:21:13 [Speaker 3]
to say anything about it.
00:21:15 [Speaker 3]
And Jay was like, you have to see this before things are spoiled for you because it's gonna get spoiled

00:21:19 [Speaker 2]
for you.

00:21:19 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:21:20 [Speaker 1]
I don't wanna actually say too much because I think expectations will get way too high.
00:21:23 [Speaker 1]
And I think that's side of a down downside of the shit.

00:21:27 [Speaker 2]
Add a baby.
00:21:28 [Speaker 2]
I appreciate you.

00:21:29 [Speaker 3]
I just wanna say it's the best movie I've ever thought.
00:21:31 [Speaker 3]
You see?

00:21:32 [Speaker 1]
I'm just I just appreciate original content

00:21:37 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

00:21:37 [Speaker 1]
This level.
00:21:38 [Speaker 1]
Elias.
00:21:38 [Speaker 1]
And it's, like, so rare.
00:21:40 [Speaker 1]
So when I got to see it in 70 millimeter at City Walk, which is one of 10 theaters playing it in San Manuel, all night.

00:21:46 [Speaker 4]
So cool.

00:21:46 [Speaker 1]
Sold out performance at noon on a Monday.
00:21:49 [Speaker 1]
Oh, shit.

00:21:50 [Speaker 2]
Great.

00:21:51 [Speaker 3]
That's hot.

00:21:52 [Speaker 1]
Far up in, like, house left, far corner, and I yeah.
00:21:55 [Speaker 1]
I had a good time.

00:21:55 [Speaker 2]
And it was one of those movies that's just so fucking great with a crowd?

00:22:00 [Speaker 1]
It's great with a crowd.
00:22:01 [Speaker 1]
It's it's just great in cinema.
00:22:02 [Speaker 1]
Like, it's just Okay.
00:22:03 [Speaker 1]
Okay.

00:22:04 [Speaker 2]
In cinema.
00:22:05 [Speaker 2]
I mean, it is 70 millimeter.
00:22:07 [Speaker 2]
Are you that Paul?
00:22:08 [Speaker 2]
Well, this is the

00:22:09 [Speaker 1]
first time.
00:22:09 [Speaker 1]
Is this what you watch on Quibi?

00:22:12 [Speaker 2]
When my when I watch my quick bites?

00:22:14 [Speaker 3]
You guys, what is Quibi?
00:22:16 [Speaker 3]
What are you talking about?

00:22:17 [Speaker 2]
Is that

00:22:17 [Speaker 3]
a thing?
00:22:17 [Speaker 3]
Are you is this a joker?

00:22:19 [Speaker 1]
You don't remember Quibi?
00:22:20 [Speaker 1]
What was that?

00:22:21 [Speaker 2]
It was

00:22:21 [Speaker 1]
a brief.

00:22:22 [Speaker 3]
What is

00:22:22 [Speaker 2]
that?
00:22:22 [Speaker 2]
It's Jeffrey talking about?
00:22:23 [Speaker 2]
Primarily Jeffrey Katzenberg's app that was going to provide between fifteen second and six minute

00:22:36 [Speaker 1]
Episodes.

00:22:36 [Speaker 2]
Episodes or, like, clips of things, and various celebrities did shows for it and everything.
00:22:41 [Speaker 2]
And now those shows are getting sold to

00:22:43 [Speaker 1]
Some of them were

00:22:44 [Speaker 2]
in the places.

00:22:46 [Speaker 1]
And they did the fugitive remake on it.
00:22:49 [Speaker 1]
Wait.
00:22:50 [Speaker 1]
One of the fugitive remakes.

00:22:51 [Speaker 2]
Wow.
00:22:51 [Speaker 2]
I

00:22:52 [Speaker 1]
think It existed in, like, 2019, I wanna say.

00:22:54 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:22:55 [Speaker 2]
Not long One

00:22:56 [Speaker 3]
of the terrible things we lost, with cope with the COVID nineteen pandemic.

00:23:00 [Speaker 2]
One of the things that we forgot about, RIP Quibi?
00:23:03 [Speaker 2]
What's Quibi?
00:23:03 [Speaker 2]
Quibi.
00:23:04 [Speaker 2]
Quibi?
00:23:04 [Speaker 2]
What the fuck is a Quibi?

00:23:07 [Speaker 2]
This episode was brought to you by Quibi, so it's not they're not dead.

00:23:11 [Speaker 3]
Webex, baby.
00:23:12 [Speaker 3]
Quibi.
00:23:13 [Speaker 3]
Quibi is

00:23:14 [Speaker 2]
We're back, baby.
00:23:18 [Speaker 2]
You just did Keiko, if you ever want to stop what you're doing and take an unpaid job writing fake ads for a podcast, please let me know because you've got it.

00:23:29 [Speaker 3]
Oh my god.
00:23:30 [Speaker 3]
I can't wait.
00:23:31 [Speaker 3]
I can't wait for, like, the nonsense that would come like, show up for as an ad for every one of your episodes.
00:23:38 [Speaker 3]
Oh,

00:23:40 [Speaker 2]
no need to imagine.
00:23:42 [Speaker 2]
We'll just need you

00:23:43 [Speaker 1]
a prompt like, I don't know, Quibi.
00:23:47 [Speaker 1]
And give us you give us your ad, and, Paul will read it.

00:23:51 [Speaker 2]
The tagline, we back, baby, opens up an entire world.

00:23:55 [Speaker 3]
It's never gonna be it's never gonna be, like, a fun pun.
00:23:58 [Speaker 3]
It's always gonna just be, like, extremely generic.
00:24:02 [Speaker 3]
It could be about anything.

00:24:04 [Speaker 2]
But fun pun is great.

00:24:06 [Speaker 1]
Should we talk about the movie we're talking about?

00:24:07 [Speaker 3]
I wanna talk about

00:24:08 [Speaker 1]
it so bad.

00:24:09 [Speaker 2]
Let's talk about some facts.
00:24:11 [Speaker 2]
I Archaeology is the search for no Fact.

00:24:16 [Speaker 1]
Tell you this for free.

00:24:19 [Speaker 2]
The movie we're talking about includes transsexual transvestites from Transylvania.
00:24:27 [Speaker 2]
If you haven't fucking gotten with the program yet, get on board.
00:24:31 [Speaker 2]
It's the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

00:24:34 [Speaker 1]
I have to say one of the worst Rocky movies.
00:24:37 [Speaker 1]
There was a movie in the world.

00:24:38 [Speaker 2]
Not what you expected?
00:24:40 [Speaker 2]
Woah.
00:24:41 [Speaker 2]
No.
00:24:42 [Speaker 2]
We watched different movies.

00:24:44 [Speaker 1]
I watched Rocky

00:24:45 [Speaker 2]
Horror Picture Show.
00:24:46 [Speaker 2]
It had Ivan Drago kind of.

00:24:48 [Speaker 3]
More violence than any Rocky movie I've seen.

00:24:50 [Speaker 1]
It wasn't not nearly as gay as most of the Rocky movies.

00:24:56 [Speaker 2]
It's they both have Ivan Drago, though, which is crazy.
00:24:59 [Speaker 2]
Just a huge, ripped blonde dude that doesn't talk.
00:25:05 [Speaker 2]
Are you gonna keep talking?
00:25:06 [Speaker 2]
Rocky Horror Picture Show.

00:25:08 [Speaker 1]
Or are you or are you Ivan Drayle?

00:25:09 [Speaker 3]
All of

00:25:10 [Speaker 2]
a sudden, I have fallen silent.
00:25:12 [Speaker 2]
Attention.
00:25:13 [Speaker 2]
Rocky become the creature of the night.
00:25:16 [Speaker 2]
Rocky.
00:25:18 [Speaker 2]
Yeah, dude.

00:25:18 [Speaker 2]
Oh my god.
00:25:19 [Speaker 2]
This was brought to us by twentieth Century Fox and Michael White productions.

00:25:24 [Speaker 1]
Michael White?
00:25:25 [Speaker 1]
Different.

00:25:26 [Speaker 3]
Different Mike White.
00:25:27 [Speaker 3]
Okay.

00:25:28 [Speaker 2]
Dude, different.
00:25:29 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:25:30 [Speaker 2]
Not not White Lotus digging and drinking,

00:25:33 [Speaker 3]
like, white.
00:25:34 [Speaker 3]
White Lotus where they all are in the castle.

00:25:37 [Speaker 2]
They're all

00:25:37 [Speaker 1]
making sex with each other.

00:25:38 [Speaker 2]
They should do, like, a clue.
00:25:40 [Speaker 2]
I mean, it already is clue.

00:25:42 [Speaker 3]
Right?
00:25:42 [Speaker 3]
That is so funny, actually.
00:25:44 [Speaker 3]
Just, like, an SNL scan.
00:25:45 [Speaker 3]
I was writing on SNL.
00:25:46 [Speaker 3]
I would 100% text this.

00:25:48 [Speaker 2]
Scottish castle.
00:25:50 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:25:59 [Speaker 2]
Terrible.
00:26:00 [Speaker 2]
Terrible.
00:26:01 [Speaker 2]
This movie, would you know it, is appropriately rated r unlike our other horny alien movie, Earth Girls or e g easy, which was rated EG.

00:26:12 [Speaker 2]
E g for I, I think That was porn

00:26:20 [Speaker 1]
for kids.
00:26:20 [Speaker 1]
This is porn for weirdos.
00:26:23 [Speaker 1]
Your musicals your musicals nerds.
00:26:25 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

00:26:25 [Speaker 2]
Your musical should be able to have a little bit of porn.

00:26:27 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:26:27 [Speaker 3]
Is it?

00:26:28 [Speaker 2]
You should be able

00:26:29 [Speaker 3]
to have a little

00:26:29 [Speaker 2]
porn in your musical.
00:26:31 [Speaker 2]
You have an hour and forty minutes to do it, so you can have a little bit.
00:26:35 [Speaker 2]
The budget on this movie was and you're gonna hear a lot of fucking wild numbers, listeners, because the budget hit and some of it may not be entirely accurate because the budget history on this and receipt history on this movie is insane.
00:26:47 [Speaker 2]
Budget is likely $1,400,000.
00:26:50 [Speaker 2]
Adjusted that is $8,300,000.

00:26:54 [Speaker 2]
Opening weekend was 09/26/1975.

00:26:59 [Speaker 1]
To be more.
00:26:59 [Speaker 1]
From nineteen seventies to now, that has to be more.
00:27:02 [Speaker 1]
Well, that's

00:27:02 [Speaker 2]
where I see things.

00:27:03 [Speaker 1]
Just a little bit.
00:27:04 [Speaker 1]
No.

00:27:04 [Speaker 2]
1.4 to 8.3.

00:27:06 [Speaker 3]
Because all this is about point four part.

00:27:08 [Speaker 2]
Times.
00:27:09 [Speaker 2]
It's about it's all it's about seven and a half, eight times.
00:27:13 [Speaker 2]
Damn.

00:27:14 [Speaker 1]
$1,400,000.

00:27:16 [Speaker 2]
Yep.
00:27:17 [Speaker 2]
Opening weekend, 09/26/1975.
00:27:21 [Speaker 2]
It made

00:27:21 [Speaker 3]
20 for

00:27:23 [Speaker 1]
my birthday.
00:27:23 [Speaker 1]
Sorry.
00:27:24 [Speaker 1]
You look great.

00:27:24 [Speaker 3]
They came out and I decided by far.
00:27:26 [Speaker 3]
Sorry.
00:27:26 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:27:27 [Speaker 2]
Wait.
00:27:27 [Speaker 2]
You made okay.

00:27:28 [Speaker 3]
You made it to me how much?

00:27:29 [Speaker 2]
I was $19.55.
00:27:32 [Speaker 2]
Oh.
00:27:33 [Speaker 2]
This movie made $21,000, its opening weekend.
00:27:37 [Speaker 2]
Oh my god.
00:27:39 [Speaker 2]
Adjusted, that is $124,000.

00:27:42 [Speaker 2]
The final gross in North America for the first six months of its original release was $450,000.
00:27:51 [Speaker 2]
Adjusted that is about $980,000.
00:27:56 [Speaker 2]
I Wow.
00:27:58 [Speaker 2]
Final gross worldwide.
00:28:00 [Speaker 2]
This is the number for official distributor rereleases only.

00:28:05 [Speaker 2]
This is not including midnight independent showings that have generated another estimated $300,000,000

00:28:13 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:28:14 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:28:14 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:28:14 [Speaker 2]
In sales over many years, and the movie is still technically on its original release.
00:28:21 [Speaker 2]
It has technically never left its original release.

00:28:25 [Speaker 3]
It's like the longest running film Correct.

00:28:28 [Speaker 1]
Theatrical.
00:28:29 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:28:29 [Speaker 1]
Theatrical.
00:28:29 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

00:28:30 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:28:30 [Speaker 2]
That final worldwide gross of official release is a $116,000,000.
00:28:37 [Speaker 2]
That's about $690,000,000 adjusted.

00:28:42 [Speaker 3]
This is a success.
00:28:44 [Speaker 3]
What a success.

00:28:45 [Speaker 2]
I like Yeah.

00:28:45 [Speaker 3]
I like Jesus Christ.

00:28:46 [Speaker 1]
I like the pauses you put in because they filled me with a lot of anticipation.

00:28:53 [Speaker 3]
You can't finish it for him.
00:28:55 [Speaker 3]
That's disrespectful.

00:28:56 [Speaker 2]
It was.
00:28:57 [Speaker 2]
I'm sorry.

00:28:57 [Speaker 1]
You're supposed to go say it.

00:28:59 [Speaker 2]
Say it.
00:28:59 [Speaker 2]
I finished

00:29:01 [Speaker 1]
your sandwiches.
00:29:03 [Speaker 1]
Say See?
00:29:05 [Speaker 1]
How's it feel?

00:29:06 [Speaker 2]
You're right.
00:29:06 [Speaker 2]
I feel upset.
00:29:08 [Speaker 2]
I apologize.
00:29:10 [Speaker 2]
Gosh.

00:29:11 [Speaker 1]
Jeez.
00:29:11 [Speaker 1]
Fuck an

00:29:11 [Speaker 2]
asshole.
00:29:14 [Speaker 2]
Other releases this month were Dog Day Afternoon Woah.
00:29:19 [Speaker 2]
Three Days of the Condor

00:29:21 [Speaker 3]
Wow.

00:29:21 [Speaker 2]
And Give them Hell, Harry.

00:29:24 [Speaker 3]
I will say between this and Dog Day Afternoon, that's, like, a lot of queer representation.
00:29:28 [Speaker 3]
Absolutely.
00:29:28 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:29:28 [Speaker 2]
Absolutely.
00:29:29 [Speaker 2]
Something

00:29:29 [Speaker 1]
in the water.

00:29:30 [Speaker 3]
The seventies.
00:29:31 [Speaker 3]
Wow.

00:29:31 [Speaker 1]
I mean, it was the seventies.
00:29:32 [Speaker 1]
Right?
00:29:33 [Speaker 1]
So, like, sex revolution.

00:29:34 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:29:35 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:29:35 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:29:36 [Speaker 2]
Repression is the enemy.
00:29:38 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:29:39 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:29:40 [Speaker 2]
1975 top earners were Jaws I don't have heard of

00:29:46 [Speaker 3]
that.

00:29:46 [Speaker 2]
Shampoo, lucky lady, Tommy, rollerball.

00:29:51 [Speaker 1]
Did you say shampoo?
00:29:53 [Speaker 1]
Yep.
00:29:53 [Speaker 1]
What what is that?

00:29:55 [Speaker 2]
I think it's a Warren Beatty Yeah.
00:29:57 [Speaker 2]
Movie.
00:29:58 [Speaker 2]
Okay.
00:29:59 [Speaker 2]
I'd I've never seen it, to be honest with you.
00:30:02 [Speaker 2]
So in 1970

00:30:03 [Speaker 3]
Just just ninety minutes of Warren Beatty, champ three.
00:30:05 [Speaker 3]
He

00:30:08 [Speaker 1]
was a he was a pretty attractive dude.

00:30:09 [Speaker 3]
I know.
00:30:10 [Speaker 3]
So He would put a lot of money for that.

00:30:11 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:30:11 [Speaker 2]
Just Obviously, Tracy zooms in.
00:30:14 [Speaker 2]
We're enhancing on Tracy.
00:30:15 [Speaker 2]
More Dick Tracy.
00:30:16 [Speaker 2]
It's me.

00:30:16 [Speaker 2]
I'm Dick Tracy.
00:30:18 [Speaker 2]
You don't need the rights.
00:30:19 [Speaker 2]
I need the rights.
00:30:20 [Speaker 2]
I'm gonna play Dick Tracy.
00:30:21 [Speaker 2]
Give me more Dick Tracy.

00:30:22 [Speaker 2]
No.

00:30:24 [Speaker 1]
I'm prune Tracy.

00:30:26 [Speaker 3]
Take that, Dick.
00:30:27 [Speaker 3]
Stop it.

00:30:28 [Speaker 2]
This movie on its initial release through '75 finished dead last of major releases.
00:30:35 [Speaker 2]
So again, as to what we were saying, what a success story.

00:30:39 [Speaker 3]
Truly.

00:30:40 [Speaker 2]
Other films from '75, Barry Lyndon, Funny Lady, Rooster Cogburn, The Iger Sanction.
00:30:47 [Speaker 2]
Letterboxed average of this film is four point o.
00:30:51 [Speaker 2]
Follow us, won't you?

00:30:52 [Speaker 1]
You can follow me on Letterboxed at run b m c.
00:30:54 [Speaker 1]
That's run b e e n c.

00:30:57 [Speaker 2]
I'm still at Paul acts badly.
00:30:59 [Speaker 2]
Keiko, do you have or would you like to share?
00:31:02 [Speaker 2]
Is that

00:31:03 [Speaker 3]
I don't have one yet.

00:31:04 [Speaker 1]
Good for you.

00:31:05 [Speaker 3]
But I look forward to having it one day.

00:31:07 [Speaker 2]
Good for you.

00:31:09 [Speaker 1]
But, you know You know?
00:31:12 [Speaker 1]
Good for you.

00:31:12 [Speaker 3]
Hey.
00:31:13 [Speaker 3]
I'm gonna I'm gonna get in there.

00:31:15 [Speaker 1]
You know?
00:31:15 [Speaker 1]
Actually.
00:31:15 [Speaker 1]
Only if you want to.

00:31:16 [Speaker 3]
I'm like, this this movie reminds me of boogers.

00:31:21 [Speaker 2]
You're you're you're building

00:31:25 [Speaker 3]
Say it.
00:31:26 [Speaker 3]
Say it.

00:31:26 [Speaker 1]
Say it.

00:31:29 [Speaker 2]
Patient.

00:31:29 [Speaker 1]
See?
00:31:30 [Speaker 1]
Doesn't it feel better?
00:31:31 [Speaker 1]
Doesn't it

00:31:32 [Speaker 2]
feel better?

00:31:32 [Speaker 1]
I God.
00:31:32 [Speaker 1]
Get to let it feel Damn it.
00:31:34 [Speaker 1]
Fucking asshole.

00:31:36 [Speaker 2]
Roger Ebert in August of seventy six gave this 2.5 out of four, which is pretty positive.
00:31:44 [Speaker 2]
Rotten Tomatoes, 80%, 85% popcorn, Metacritic, 65, 7.8 user.
00:31:50 [Speaker 2]
Major award wins and nominations.
00:31:53 [Speaker 2]
In 02/2005, this earned its entry into the US National Film Preservation Archives.
00:32:02 [Speaker 2]
Wow.

00:32:02 [Speaker 2]
Ben?
00:32:03 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:32:04 [Speaker 2]
The people.

00:32:05 [Speaker 1]
Okay.
00:32:06 [Speaker 1]
I wanna apologize too if I sound weird to people.
00:32:10 [Speaker 1]
I don't know why.

00:32:11 [Speaker 3]
He's going through a thing right now.

00:32:12 [Speaker 1]
Let me hear something right now.
00:32:14 [Speaker 1]
Transition period, maybe.

00:32:16 [Speaker 3]
It's just

00:32:17 [Speaker 1]
It's like a new Mhmm.
00:32:19 [Speaker 1]
Like like, thing I'm gonna turn into something new, maybe?
00:32:23 [Speaker 1]
Like a butterfly?
00:32:24 [Speaker 1]
I

00:32:24 [Speaker 2]
don't know.
00:32:25 [Speaker 2]
Oh, okay.
00:32:25 [Speaker 2]
We don't know.
00:32:26 [Speaker 2]
We don't know.

00:32:26 [Speaker 3]
No one knows.

00:32:27 [Speaker 2]
No one knows.

00:32:27 [Speaker 1]
But I'm in a cocoon right now.
00:32:30 [Speaker 1]
It's terrifying.
00:32:31 [Speaker 1]
The director of this movie is Jim Charmin, The Knight, the Prowler, Shock Treatment, and Summer of Secrets.
00:32:38 [Speaker 1]
Writer is Jim Sharman, Andy x, or just short, and Richard O'Brien, who did the original stage version.
00:32:44 [Speaker 1]
Director of photography is Peter, not Peter.

00:32:48 [Speaker 3]
Peter.

00:32:49 [Speaker 1]
Peter?
00:32:50 [Speaker 1]
Peter Schit Schitsinski?

00:32:54 [Speaker 3]
Peter Schitsinski.

00:32:58 [Speaker 2]
That's what I am

00:32:59 [Speaker 1]
Did we lose Paul?
00:33:01 [Speaker 1]
Paul has

00:33:07 [Speaker 2]
good.
00:33:08 [Speaker 2]
I heard

00:33:09 [Speaker 3]
that beatershadow the skitski.

00:33:15 [Speaker 1]
Beatershitski.
00:33:17 [Speaker 1]
And he did Eastern prom Peter Peter Schitsky.
00:33:20 [Speaker 1]
Sorry.
00:33:21 [Speaker 1]
I've lost my Schitsky.
00:33:23 [Speaker 1]
Eastern Promises, Naked Lunch, Dead Ringers.

00:33:25 [Speaker 1]
Music was Richard O'Brien.
00:33:27 [Speaker 1]
He did the songs and lyrics on the original, and Richard Hartley did the compositions Rogue Trader, Good Life.
00:33:33 [Speaker 1]
Producers, Michael White.
00:33:35 [Speaker 1]
Different Michael White, r I p.
00:33:37 [Speaker 1]
R I p Michael White, not Mike White.

00:33:40 [Speaker 1]
He's he's not Cut

00:33:41 [Speaker 2]
cut this.

00:33:43 [Speaker 1]
Not a survivor.

00:33:44 [Speaker 2]
Not a survivor.

00:33:45 [Speaker 3]
One of the most common names in

00:33:47 [Speaker 2]
the world.
00:33:47 [Speaker 2]
Right?
00:33:48 [Speaker 2]
Mike Michael White.
00:33:49 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

00:33:49 [Speaker 1]
And I mean Absolutely.
00:33:51 [Speaker 1]
My first introduction to Michael Jim Stewart.
00:33:53 [Speaker 1]
You know?
00:33:53 [Speaker 1]
My my first was, School of Rock.
00:33:56 [Speaker 1]
And I just remember being, like, Mike White, Jack Black.

00:33:59 [Speaker 3]
Like Yeah.
00:33:59 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:34:00 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:34:00 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:34:00 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:34:00 [Speaker 3]
Weird.
00:34:01 [Speaker 3]
Stuck you in.

00:34:02 [Speaker 1]
Producers, Michael White, RIP, Enigma, Eat the Rich, and Lou Adler up in smoke.
00:34:07 [Speaker 1]
The cast of this fine film, Tim Curry plays What?
00:34:10 [Speaker 1]
Frank N Furter.
00:34:11 [Speaker 1]
Have you heard of him?
00:34:13 [Speaker 1]
Police, Muppet Island, and Congo Bad Gorillas.

00:34:17 [Speaker 3]
And also, let's not forget

00:34:18 [Speaker 1]
Home Alone two.
00:34:20 [Speaker 1]
We would love it.

00:34:21 [Speaker 2]
Thank you.
00:34:22 [Speaker 2]
It.

00:34:22 [Speaker 1]
And I

00:34:23 [Speaker 2]
and I fucked up Muppet Treasure Island.

00:34:26 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:34:26 [Speaker 1]
Muppet

00:34:27 [Speaker 2]
Treasure Island.
00:34:28 [Speaker 2]
Muppet Island.

00:34:29 [Speaker 1]
What the fuck?

00:34:30 [Speaker 2]
You're not a real Muppet It's a new survivor.
00:34:33 [Speaker 2]
Oh my god.
00:34:34 [Speaker 2]
Oh my god.
00:34:35 [Speaker 2]
What the

00:34:36 [Speaker 3]
shit out

00:34:36 [Speaker 2]
of that?
00:34:37 [Speaker 2]
One person.

00:34:37 [Speaker 1]
One person that all the rest of it are Muppets.

00:34:40 [Speaker 2]
Oh my

00:34:41 [Speaker 1]
god.
00:34:41 [Speaker 1]
It's Pedro Pascal.
00:34:43 [Speaker 1]
Everyone else is a Muppet.

00:34:45 [Speaker 3]
The way miss Piggy would create alliances with everyone and then be the most hated little Muppet on that island, oof.

00:34:51 [Speaker 1]
Who would win?

00:34:52 [Speaker 2]
I don't know about that, Keiko.

00:34:55 [Speaker 1]
I feel like, someone like Rizzo.

00:34:58 [Speaker 2]
Shut up, frog.

00:34:59 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:34:59 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:34:59 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:35:00 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:35:00 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:35:00 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:35:00 [Speaker 1]
Someone who Beaker.
00:35:02 [Speaker 1]
Beaker would win.
00:35:04 [Speaker 1]
Hell, yeah.
00:35:05 [Speaker 1]
Sweetest shit.
00:35:06 [Speaker 1]
He's definitely

00:35:06 [Speaker 3]
You don't you don't expect him.

00:35:08 [Speaker 1]
He's a sociopath.

00:35:09 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

00:35:09 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:35:09 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:35:09 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:35:09 [Speaker 3]
Clearly.

00:35:10 [Speaker 1]
Beaker.
00:35:10 [Speaker 1]
Susan Sarandon

00:35:12 [Speaker 3]
Heard of her.

00:35:13 [Speaker 1]
Plays Janet.
00:35:14 [Speaker 1]
Stepmom, Joe, dead man, Joaquin.

00:35:19 [Speaker 3]
Someone Louise.
00:35:20 [Speaker 3]
Come on, babies.

00:35:21 [Speaker 2]
Yes.
00:35:21 [Speaker 2]
Oh.

00:35:22 [Speaker 1]
Hey.
00:35:22 [Speaker 1]
I don't pick these.
00:35:23 [Speaker 1]
Look at this guy.
00:35:24 [Speaker 1]
Damn.

00:35:24 [Speaker 2]
I wish you would not blame me for things.

00:35:27 [Speaker 1]
As it zooms out?

00:35:30 [Speaker 2]
The camerawork of the AI is wild.
00:35:33 [Speaker 2]
I'm saying It's so funny.
00:35:34 [Speaker 2]
You can

00:35:34 [Speaker 1]
just have AI do cinematography.
00:35:35 [Speaker 1]
They're really funny, actually.
00:35:36 [Speaker 1]
This feel

00:35:37 [Speaker 2]
this feels like the hunter killer from Terminator two doing camera.
00:35:42 [Speaker 2]
You know,

00:35:42 [Speaker 1]
and I can do some things.
00:35:43 [Speaker 1]
Right?

00:35:44 [Speaker 2]
Targeting.

00:35:45 [Speaker 1]
Barry Bosswick plays Mhmm.
00:35:47 [Speaker 1]
Mad, Mavalforce, the Incredibles' two bigger, fatter liar.
00:35:53 [Speaker 1]
I thought he passed away, but I could be wrong.

00:35:55 [Speaker 3]
I mean, he's pretty up there.
00:35:57 [Speaker 3]
I mean, if he's a liar.
00:35:58 [Speaker 3]
He was also in Spin City.

00:35:59 [Speaker 1]
I love Spin City.

00:36:01 [Speaker 2]
I was at Saint Francis.
00:36:03 [Speaker 2]
So great.

00:36:04 [Speaker 1]
That was a good show.
00:36:05 [Speaker 1]
Richard O'Brien plays riffraff, Dark City, Dungeons and Dragons from February, and Spice World, Patricia Quinn.
00:36:12 [Speaker 1]
You got

00:36:12 [Speaker 3]
Spice World.
00:36:13 [Speaker 3]
Spice World

00:36:14 [Speaker 1]
is great.

00:36:14 [Speaker 2]
Thanks.
00:36:14 [Speaker 2]
Spice up your life.
00:36:16 [Speaker 2]
Wow.

00:36:16 [Speaker 1]
Patricia Quinn.

00:36:17 [Speaker 2]
We're fucking back.

00:36:20 [Speaker 1]
That's where you're gonna have the Spice World spin off is on Quibi, for

00:36:24 [Speaker 2]
sure.
00:36:25 [Speaker 2]
For sure.
00:36:25 [Speaker 2]
Spice Town.

00:36:27 [Speaker 1]
Do they not talk to each other?
00:36:28 [Speaker 1]
Do they still, like, tour?
00:36:29 [Speaker 1]
Do they play?

00:36:30 [Speaker 2]
I don't know.

00:36:30 [Speaker 3]
They they were at the Olympics, I thought.

00:36:32 [Speaker 1]
They London?
00:36:33 [Speaker 1]
Oh,

00:36:33 [Speaker 3]
in London.
00:36:33 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:36:34 [Speaker 3]
They did the Olympics.

00:36:35 [Speaker 1]
That was a while ago.

00:36:36 [Speaker 3]
Was it?
00:36:37 [Speaker 3]
How old are we?
00:36:38 [Speaker 3]
Wait.
00:36:38 [Speaker 3]
How old are we?

00:36:39 [Speaker 2]
Was that, like, 2,012?
00:36:42 [Speaker 2]
Wait.

00:36:43 [Speaker 3]
How about this?

00:36:45 [Speaker 4]
How long were you going?

00:36:46 [Speaker 1]
You were in a coma.

00:36:48 [Speaker 3]
I was on stage.

00:36:49 [Speaker 2]
I'm in

00:36:49 [Speaker 1]
a in a

00:36:50 [Speaker 3]
projector screen.

00:36:51 [Speaker 1]
Then we're here.

00:36:51 [Speaker 3]
And then

00:36:52 [Speaker 2]
Then the bomb makes them.
00:36:54 [Speaker 2]
Wow.

00:36:55 [Speaker 1]
Who's been driving the Keiko mobile this long?
00:36:57 [Speaker 1]
Man.

00:36:58 [Speaker 3]
It's about to go downhill.

00:37:00 [Speaker 1]
I hope the creative juices are still alive.
00:37:03 [Speaker 1]
Whoever They're not.
00:37:04 [Speaker 1]
That's fair.
00:37:05 [Speaker 1]
Mine die every day.

00:37:06 [Speaker 2]
Try it up.

00:37:07 [Speaker 3]
Try it up.

00:37:07 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:37:08 [Speaker 2]
No more moist.

00:37:08 [Speaker 3]
No more moist.

00:37:09 [Speaker 2]
No moistness.

00:37:10 [Speaker 3]
Moist.

00:37:11 [Speaker 2]
Moist.
00:37:12 [Speaker 2]
Brought to you by moist qiddie.
00:37:14 [Speaker 2]
Pure vapes.
00:37:16 [Speaker 2]
Be back, baby.

00:37:18 [Speaker 1]
Patricia Quinn.

00:37:19 [Speaker 2]
Baby.

00:37:19 [Speaker 1]
Patricia Quinn plays Magenta, the outsider, Hawk the Slayer, the Lords of Salem.
00:37:25 [Speaker 1]
Neil Campbell plays Columbia, Great Expectations from '98, Intern, and Seriously Red.
00:37:30 [Speaker 1]
Jonathan Adams, RIP, plays Doctor.
00:37:33 [Speaker 1]
Scott.
00:37:33 [Speaker 1]
Three for All, Revolution, evil two eyes.

00:37:37 [Speaker 1]
Peter Hinwood plays Rocky Tarn Lim, and Meat Loaf plays Eddie, Black Dog, Formula fifty one, and Fight Club because Bob has bitch tits.

00:37:47 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:37:48 [Speaker 1]
Charles Grey

00:37:49 [Speaker 2]
Also RIP for Meat Loaf.

00:37:51 [Speaker 1]
Oh, so I

00:37:51 [Speaker 2]
don't know.
00:37:51 [Speaker 2]
RIP.

00:37:52 [Speaker 1]
But Bob has bitch tits.
00:37:53 [Speaker 1]
Sorry.
00:37:55 [Speaker 1]
Charles Grey, RIP, criminologist, diamonds are forever, masquerade, and the beast must die.
00:38:01 [Speaker 1]
Keiko, would you mind reading some fun facts for us?

00:38:05 [Speaker 2]
Fun facts.
00:38:06 [Speaker 2]
Fun facts, everybody.
00:38:08 [Speaker 2]
It's fun fact time.

00:38:10 [Speaker 3]
This is the theatrical film acting debut of Tim Curry.
00:38:13 [Speaker 3]
Is that true?

00:38:14 [Speaker 1]
That's true.

00:38:15 [Speaker 2]
That's crazy.
00:38:16 [Speaker 2]
Insane.
00:38:16 [Speaker 2]
This and and

00:38:17 [Speaker 1]
Wow.

00:38:17 [Speaker 2]
Val Kilmer in Top Secret are like

00:38:20 [Speaker 3]
Oh my god.
00:38:20 [Speaker 3]
That blows my mind.

00:38:22 [Speaker 1]
I mean, you brought up Die Hard.
00:38:23 [Speaker 1]
I think that's another crazy theatrical.

00:38:25 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:38:25 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

00:38:26 [Speaker 3]
Film and Deepgram.
00:38:27 [Speaker 3]
Wow.
00:38:27 [Speaker 3]
Crazy.
00:38:28 [Speaker 3]
Number two, when Barry Boswick pounds his fist on the table during the dinner scene, he accidentally pounded the hand of Susan Sarandon.
00:38:34 [Speaker 3]
The reaction from Sarandon is real.

00:38:36 [Speaker 3]
She got her revenge by accidentally stepping on Boswick's foot with her spiked heel during the floor show scene.
00:38:42 [Speaker 3]
His reaction is also visible.

00:38:45 [Speaker 1]
His dancing in that sequence is incredible.

00:38:48 [Speaker 3]
We were I watched this with Amy Escobar last night.

00:38:50 [Speaker 1]
Oh, nice.

00:38:51 [Speaker 3]
And the kick Rocky's kicks are low.
00:38:53 [Speaker 3]
The other two boys, their kicks are high.

00:38:56 [Speaker 2]
They got some great teamsters

00:38:57 [Speaker 1]
like Paul.
00:38:58 [Speaker 1]
They've been stretching.
00:38:59 [Speaker 1]
Limber.
00:38:59 [Speaker 1]
Kinda limber enough.

00:39:01 [Speaker 3]
Doctor Scott crashes through the wall for his entrance because the set builders forgot to build to put an extra door in the lab set.

00:39:09 [Speaker 2]
So good.

00:39:09 [Speaker 3]
That is so funny.

00:39:11 [Speaker 1]
Your limitations be your inspiration, people.

00:39:14 [Speaker 3]
Oh my god.
00:39:14 [Speaker 3]
Okay.

00:39:14 [Speaker 2]
So good.

00:39:15 [Speaker 3]
The title sequence and film are inspired by the classic sci fi horror films of the thirties through sixties.
00:39:20 [Speaker 3]
Flash Gordon, Invisible Man and King Kong, Forbidden Planet, It Came from Outer Space, to name a few.
00:39:27 [Speaker 3]
I didn't I didn't list the years.

00:39:29 [Speaker 2]
That's right.
00:39:29 [Speaker 2]
You should not.

00:39:30 [Speaker 3]
This film was a massive flop before various midnight screening releases.
00:39:33 [Speaker 3]
I have a lot to say about this.
00:39:35 [Speaker 3]
The film was withdrawn from its eight opening cities.
00:39:38 [Speaker 3]
Its planned New York City opening on Halloween night was canceled.
00:39:42 [Speaker 3]
Oh, man.

00:39:43 [Speaker 3]
The second now famous poster was created using a set of red lipstick painted lips with the tagline, a different set of jaws.
00:39:50 [Speaker 3]
A spoof of the poster for the film Jaws, also released in 1975.
00:39:53 [Speaker 3]
The lips belonging to former Playboy model, Lorelai Shark.

00:39:57 [Speaker 2]
Usually, we just type a bunch of cats together.
00:39:59 [Speaker 2]
Jaws, Shark.
00:40:00 [Speaker 2]
I love it all comes comes together.

00:40:03 [Speaker 3]
The film is the longest running release in film history.
00:40:05 [Speaker 3]
It had benefited from a Fox policy that made archival films available to theaters at any time and still going on its original release in 1975.
00:40:13 [Speaker 3]
While Disney company acquired twentieth Century Fox in 2019 and began pulling archival Fox movies from theaters to place in the Disney vault, the company made an exception in the case of the Rocky Horror Picture Show to allow the traditional Midnight screenings to continue.
00:40:26 [Speaker 3]
That's rad.

00:40:26 [Speaker 2]
We get to have one nice thing.

00:40:28 [Speaker 1]
Good for you, Disney.

00:40:29 [Speaker 3]
Wait.
00:40:29 [Speaker 3]
I have one last fun fact about the movie.

00:40:31 [Speaker 2]
Please.

00:40:32 [Speaker 3]
Because because I was so curious because of the, like, the language that's been changing about gender expansiveness.
00:40:39 [Speaker 3]
And people have been like, oh, I think regular picture show was, like, bad because they say transsexual.
00:40:44 [Speaker 3]
They like, what are they saying?
00:40:45 [Speaker 3]
You know?

00:40:45 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:40:45 [Speaker 1]
Transvestite is not bad.

00:40:46 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:40:47 [Speaker 3]
Transvestite, transsexual.
00:40:48 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:40:48 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:40:48 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:40:48 [Speaker 3]
And then they're like, they're like saying all these and and so I was like, oh, I was really kind of curious about that.
00:40:53 [Speaker 3]
And so Richard O'Brien, who plays riff raff, wrote the movie.
00:40:56 [Speaker 3]
Right?
00:40:57 [Speaker 3]
Stage show and also wrote the movie.
00:40:58 [Speaker 3]
And he I don't even know if he would use he pronoun because he was, like, he was in an interview later, and he was, like or or or, like, actually quite early before they had the language for everything.

00:41:08 [Speaker 3]
And he was, like, yeah.
00:41:09 [Speaker 3]
You know, some people are one thing, and some people are another thing.
00:41:13 [Speaker 3]
And I guess I just feel like I'm in this middle thing.
00:41:17 [Speaker 3]
And he just basically was describing being non binary without having the language for it.

00:41:21 [Speaker 2]
That's Oh, wow.

00:41:21 [Speaker 3]
Which I thought was so fascinating that he, like, wrote this movie and, like, didn't even you know, I I was just like because I was watching it last night being like, man, this feels like it could actually be made now, you know, in a way.
00:41:35 [Speaker 3]
Like, it feels so radical.

00:41:37 [Speaker 1]
There's something yeah.
00:41:39 [Speaker 1]
I think we'll get into it.
00:41:40 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.

00:41:40 [Speaker 2]
Mhmm.
00:41:41 [Speaker 2]
I'm glad you gave me

00:41:42 [Speaker 1]
a call.

00:41:42 [Speaker 2]
There was an attempt there was an attempt or a successful, like, either miniseries or an attempt to add a series or whatever.
00:41:49 [Speaker 2]
Not too long ago.

00:41:51 [Speaker 1]
With Levine Cox.

00:41:52 [Speaker 2]
Right.

00:41:52 [Speaker 3]
That's right.

00:41:53 [Speaker 2]
I haven't seen it.
00:41:54 [Speaker 2]
I don't know if anyone's either.
00:41:56 [Speaker 2]
Seen it.

00:41:56 [Speaker 3]
Wait.
00:41:56 [Speaker 3]
It was a series?
00:41:57 [Speaker 3]
I thought they just remade the movie.
00:41:58 [Speaker 3]
Is that I

00:41:59 [Speaker 1]
think it was a series on FX.
00:42:01 [Speaker 1]
As well.

00:42:01 [Speaker 3]
Fascinating.
00:42:02 [Speaker 3]
I did not watch it.

00:42:03 [Speaker 1]
I did not watch it either.

00:42:04 [Speaker 3]
I don't know.
00:42:06 [Speaker 3]
If you

00:42:07 [Speaker 1]
were to guess or you were to pitch, what's the log line of this movie?

00:42:10 [Speaker 2]
Oh, okay.

00:42:13 [Speaker 3]
In this sexy horror comedy, a soon to be married couple gets stumbles upon a castle inhabited by horny like, a horny monster scientist.
00:42:27 [Speaker 3]
We just got new microchips.

00:42:30 [Speaker 2]
The camera zooming in right

00:42:32 [Speaker 3]
when you're

00:42:32 [Speaker 2]
starting to say horny.

00:42:35 [Speaker 4]
It's too fucking much.
00:42:37 [Speaker 4]
My god.

00:42:39 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
00:42:39 [Speaker 3]
Horny monster scientist, I feel really good about.

00:42:41 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:42:42 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:42:42 [Speaker 1]
That's the name of your next player.
00:42:44 [Speaker 1]
Right?

00:42:45 [Speaker 2]
Why not?
00:42:46 [Speaker 2]
Fabulous.

00:42:48 [Speaker 1]
It plays.
00:42:48 [Speaker 1]
It plays.
00:42:49 [Speaker 1]
It fucks.
00:42:51 [Speaker 1]
Do you wanna read it, or do you want me to read it, Paul?

00:42:53 [Speaker 2]
Oh, please do the honors.

00:42:54 [Speaker 1]
Oh, why did you want

00:42:55 [Speaker 2]
You had to ask you had to do the bad thing.
00:42:57 [Speaker 2]
Ask the Would

00:42:58 [Speaker 1]
you like to finish my own sentence, though, you fucking asshole?
00:43:01 [Speaker 1]
I'm really

00:43:02 [Speaker 2]
You finish my own you finish all my I'm psychic.
00:43:08 [Speaker 2]
Sandwiches.
00:43:08 [Speaker 2]
Oh.
00:43:08 [Speaker 2]
I'm doing it.

00:43:09 [Speaker 1]
A newly engaged couple have a breakdown in an isolated area and must seek shelter at the bizarre residence of a horny scien no.
00:43:19 [Speaker 1]
Monster sciencing.
00:43:19 [Speaker 1]
It just says bizarre residence of doctor Frank N Furter.

00:43:23 [Speaker 4]
Okay.

00:43:24 [Speaker 2]
Equally as provocative.
00:43:26 [Speaker 2]
Doctor Frank N Furter and horny monster sciencing.

00:43:29 [Speaker 1]
Both pretty provocative.
00:43:30 [Speaker 1]
I don't even know her.

00:43:32 [Speaker 3]
Get out of here.

00:43:33 [Speaker 2]
They're both pretty fucking provocative.

00:43:35 [Speaker 3]
The way that you mind having us, like, iron made me, like, so mad.
00:43:37 [Speaker 3]
Smokey.
00:43:40 [Speaker 3]
I just looked at him.
00:43:41 [Speaker 3]
I was like, fuck this guy.

00:43:42 [Speaker 2]
It's fair.

00:43:43 [Speaker 1]
It's my house.
00:43:44 [Speaker 1]
Then I will leave.
00:43:45 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:43:46 [Speaker 1]
I will leave.

00:43:47 [Speaker 2]
Smell you later.

00:43:49 [Speaker 1]
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00:43:54 [Speaker 2]
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00:43:55 [Speaker 4]
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00:43:55 [Speaker 3]
It's about okay.
00:43:56 [Speaker 3]
Now now hear me out.
00:43:57 [Speaker 3]
It's about a horny alien.

00:44:00 [Speaker 1]
Horny monster scientist?

00:44:03 [Speaker 2]
I'm I think I have enough.
00:44:04 [Speaker 2]
I think.
00:44:06 [Speaker 2]
Keep going if you want.
00:44:08 [Speaker 2]
I'll take more.

00:44:09 [Speaker 1]
No.
00:44:09 [Speaker 1]
It sounds like a great show.
00:44:10 [Speaker 1]
We're gonna take a small break.
00:44:12 [Speaker 1]
Oh, yeah.

00:44:12 [Speaker 2]
It's true.

00:44:13 [Speaker 3]
And we're gonna finally get to talk about this fucking We're

00:44:15 [Speaker 1]
gonna finally talk about this fucking horny monster scientist movie.

00:44:18 [Speaker 2]
They shall do it.
00:44:19 [Speaker 2]
We're taking a quick break.

00:44:22 [Speaker 4]
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00:45:02 [Speaker 4]
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00:45:09 [Speaker 4]
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00:45:11 [Speaker 4]
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00:45:14 [Speaker 1]
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00:45:16 [Speaker 2]
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00:45:19 [Speaker 4]
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00:45:21 [Speaker 4]
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00:45:28 [Speaker 4]
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00:45:32 [Speaker 4]
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00:45:54 [Speaker 4]
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00:45:56 [Speaker 1]
Jim Carrey Smoking.
00:45:58 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:46:00 [Speaker 1]
That guy.
00:46:01 [Speaker 1]
They call me Cuban Pete.
00:46:03 [Speaker 1]
That guy.

00:46:06 [Speaker 1]
Alrighty then.
00:46:07 [Speaker 1]
AI

00:46:09 [Speaker 2]
could never.
00:46:09 [Speaker 2]
Just like this movie.
00:46:11 [Speaker 2]
This movie just AI could never.

00:46:14 [Speaker 1]
The Quibi could.

00:46:16 [Speaker 2]
Very nice.
00:46:16 [Speaker 2]
Good moist.
00:46:17 [Speaker 2]
Good moist.

00:46:19 [Speaker 1]
Moist brought to you by Quibi.
00:46:20 [Speaker 1]
Oh, you know what?
00:46:21 [Speaker 1]
We're back.

00:46:23 [Speaker 3]
Oh, hey, guys.
00:46:24 [Speaker 3]
Oh, hey.
00:46:24 [Speaker 3]
We didn't see you there.

00:46:26 [Speaker 2]
We'd be back.
00:46:26 [Speaker 2]
What is it?

00:46:27 [Speaker 1]
Quibi.
00:46:28 [Speaker 1]
We're

00:46:28 [Speaker 2]
back, baby.

00:46:29 [Speaker 4]
We back, baby.

00:46:30 [Speaker 2]
We back, baby.
00:46:30 [Speaker 2]
We

00:46:31 [Speaker 3]
back, baby.
00:46:31 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:46:33 [Speaker 2]
Like Quibi.
00:46:34 [Speaker 2]
You know?

00:46:35 [Speaker 1]
Back from the dead.
00:46:36 [Speaker 1]
Quibi's back.
00:46:37 [Speaker 1]
Alright.
00:46:38 [Speaker 1]
We're gonna play I don't think you played this last time.

00:46:40 [Speaker 3]
Oh, great.
00:46:44 [Speaker 3]
It's zooming in on me.
00:46:45 [Speaker 3]
I was like, it keeps finding me at the moments where I am, like, mugging to the camera.

00:46:52 [Speaker 2]
It is.
00:46:53 [Speaker 2]
I swear whatever AI trained this thing, it's like, this is Jim.

00:46:58 [Speaker 3]
The AI has, like, a great sense of humor

00:47:00 [Speaker 2]
and timing.
00:47:01 [Speaker 2]
People give AI

00:47:02 [Speaker 1]
a lot of shit.
00:47:03 [Speaker 1]
I think it's

00:47:03 [Speaker 2]
I'm having a great time.
00:47:05 [Speaker 2]
I mean, it's It's cinematography.

00:47:12 [Speaker 1]
It It's cinematography.
00:47:14 [Speaker 1]
That's a phrase.
00:47:15 [Speaker 1]
Right?
00:47:15 [Speaker 1]
That's a it's

00:47:16 [Speaker 3]
it's color.
00:47:16 [Speaker 3]
Like it was written by AI.

00:47:18 [Speaker 2]
It's food.
00:47:19 [Speaker 2]
It's life.

00:47:20 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.
00:47:20 [Speaker 1]
It is.

00:47:22 [Speaker 3]
They give us an AI AI images give us more more fingers because we need them.

00:47:26 [Speaker 2]
I I can We'll have them to prop our phones up at some point.
00:47:30 [Speaker 2]
Right?
00:47:30 [Speaker 2]
I know.

00:47:30 [Speaker 1]
Could they give me an ET finger?
00:47:32 [Speaker 1]
I could

00:47:33 [Speaker 3]
use that.
00:47:33 [Speaker 3]
Too long.

00:47:34 [Speaker 2]
It's too long.
00:47:35 [Speaker 2]
Best I can do is a Mac and me.
00:47:37 [Speaker 2]
I'm sorry.
00:47:38 [Speaker 2]
Best I can do is a predator face.

00:47:40 [Speaker 3]
Oh, it's pretty good.

00:47:42 [Speaker 5]
It's pretty nice.

00:47:43 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:47:44 [Speaker 2]
Pretty nice.

00:47:45 [Speaker 1]
And we're gonna play a round of cinephile.

00:47:47 [Speaker 3]
Oh, no.
00:47:48 [Speaker 3]
It's okay.

00:47:49 [Speaker 2]
I don't

00:47:49 [Speaker 3]
know what this is, but I don't like it.
00:47:52 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
00:47:54 [Speaker 3]
Dwayne Johnson.

00:47:55 [Speaker 1]
Hey, Dwayne.
00:47:56 [Speaker 1]
Good start.

00:47:57 [Speaker 3]
Pain and Gain.
00:47:58 [Speaker 3]
Is that a movie?

00:47:59 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:48:00 [Speaker 1]
It's a Michael Bay movie.

00:48:01 [Speaker 3]
Oh, and I see a movie that he's in?

00:48:03 [Speaker 1]
No.
00:48:03 [Speaker 1]
You got pain

00:48:03 [Speaker 3]
and gain.
00:48:04 [Speaker 3]
Oh, pain and gain.

00:48:05 [Speaker 1]
So all goes.

00:48:06 [Speaker 2]
The rundown.

00:48:08 [Speaker 1]
I will go with The Mummy Returns, his first movie.

00:48:12 [Speaker 3]
Wow.

00:48:13 [Speaker 2]
What a debut.

00:48:15 [Speaker 3]
Oh, no.
00:48:15 [Speaker 3]
Yes.
00:48:15 [Speaker 3]
Jumanji, the new one.
00:48:17 [Speaker 3]
Right?

00:48:17 [Speaker 1]
What's the subtitle?

00:48:19 [Speaker 3]
Is the subtitle?
00:48:22 [Speaker 3]
I don't know.
00:48:23 [Speaker 3]
What's the title, please?
00:48:24 [Speaker 3]
Do you wanna do the video game one?
00:48:26 [Speaker 3]
Because that was

00:48:27 [Speaker 2]
I feel

00:48:28 [Speaker 1]
Let's give it to her.
00:48:29 [Speaker 1]
We'll give

00:48:29 [Speaker 2]
it to her.
00:48:29 [Speaker 2]
We let people slide for less, for sure.

00:48:31 [Speaker 1]
Go ahead, Paul.

00:48:32 [Speaker 2]
Okay.
00:48:33 [Speaker 2]
Walking tall.

00:48:35 [Speaker 1]
Great.
00:48:36 [Speaker 1]
Scorpion king.

00:48:38 [Speaker 3]
Hobbs and Shaw?

00:48:41 [Speaker 1]
Nice.

00:48:41 [Speaker 2]
Okay.
00:48:42 [Speaker 2]
Central intelligence.

00:48:45 [Speaker 1]
Stick in this lane.
00:48:46 [Speaker 1]
Fast five.

00:48:48 [Speaker 3]
Oh, yeah.
00:48:49 [Speaker 3]
I'm not gonna get the title of it.
00:48:51 [Speaker 3]
All I remember is oh, skyscraper.

00:48:54 [Speaker 1]
Oh, nice.

00:48:55 [Speaker 3]
I was I was gonna say all I remember is a skyscraper.

00:48:58 [Speaker 2]
You woulda got it.
00:48:59 [Speaker 2]
I'll go with the game plan.

00:49:01 [Speaker 1]
Oh, we did that one.
00:49:01 [Speaker 1]
Listen to our game plan.
00:49:02 [Speaker 1]
We

00:49:02 [Speaker 2]
sure did.

00:49:03 [Speaker 1]
I'll go with Rampage.

00:49:06 [Speaker 3]
Damn.
00:49:07 [Speaker 3]
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:49:09 [Speaker 3]
I can't remember the title of it.

00:49:11 [Speaker 1]
That's okay.

00:49:11 [Speaker 2]
It's the That was a good round.

00:49:13 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
00:49:13 [Speaker 3]
Great.

00:49:14 [Speaker 2]
Okay.
00:49:14 [Speaker 2]
I thought it was a very good round.

00:49:15 [Speaker 1]
The movie, so you should skip it anyway.

00:49:18 [Speaker 3]
God.
00:49:18 [Speaker 3]
I'm just trying to remember that fucking I'm not gonna

00:49:20 [Speaker 2]
I was gonna say tooth fairy.
00:49:21 [Speaker 2]
What were you did you I was

00:49:22 [Speaker 3]
gonna say the one about reason, like, it's like the Disney ride in the river.

00:49:26 [Speaker 2]
Oh, jungle cruise.
00:49:27 [Speaker 2]
Jungle cruise.
00:49:28 [Speaker 2]
I didn't even think of that.
00:49:29 [Speaker 2]
I

00:49:29 [Speaker 3]
kept on going to say riverboat.

00:49:31 [Speaker 1]
With Emily James.

00:49:33 [Speaker 2]
Skyscraper.
00:49:33 [Speaker 2]
I don't know.

00:49:34 [Speaker 3]
Keep describing the sky sky

00:49:36 [Speaker 2]
sky sky.

00:49:36 [Speaker 3]
Star in movies where, like, the thing it's titled the thing that he's

00:49:39 [Speaker 2]
on.
00:49:40 [Speaker 2]
Right.
00:49:40 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

00:49:41 [Speaker 1]
Like the the Jumanji.

00:49:43 [Speaker 2]
In case you were curious, the a game is Jumanji.
00:49:46 [Speaker 2]
That's the game.

00:49:48 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:49:48 [Speaker 3]
Exactly.
00:49:49 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
00:49:50 [Speaker 3]
So I brought Rocky Horror Picture Show to you all because when I I went to a Japanese school until fifth grade, and until then, even the TV and stuff I was watching, even the music I was listening to was all Japanese culture stuff.
00:50:03 [Speaker 3]
So I was, like, watching videos of Japanese TV and stuff.

00:50:05 [Speaker 3]
So middle school was the first time that I was really integrating into American culture.
00:50:09 [Speaker 3]
In high school, I was like, I'm kind of getting the sense of everything.
00:50:12 [Speaker 3]
But, like, once in a while, I felt like I just was, like, missing out on, like, an American cultural experience.
00:50:17 [Speaker 3]
So I was in the drama club.
00:50:18 [Speaker 3]
I was a bit of a jock.

00:50:20 [Speaker 3]
Also, I was on the basketball team, And I just wasn't like a I wasn't like a sexy gal, but I remember being invited to go see a midnight showing of Rocky Horror Picture Show when I was in high school when I was, like, a junior

00:50:32 [Speaker 2]
or something.

00:50:33 [Speaker 1]
Okay.

00:50:34 [Speaker 3]
And suddenly, my mind completely opened up, and I was I felt like I there was, like also, I'm not I'm not gonna lie.
00:50:43 [Speaker 3]
We'll get into this.
00:50:44 [Speaker 3]
Probably a bit of a sexual awakening Hell, yeah.
00:50:46 [Speaker 3]
Watching Tim Curry and a sexual confusion.

00:50:49 [Speaker 2]
Absolutely.

00:50:49 [Speaker 3]
And I recall I would go every Friday with my friends.
00:50:53 [Speaker 3]
I would never wear a slutty thing to sneak out to go to somewhere cool.
00:50:58 [Speaker 3]
I wore a got, like, slutty little outfits under my, like, sweatshirt and pants to go out, and then I would go to Rocky Horror Picture Show every Friday.

00:51:06 [Speaker 2]
I think that's great.
00:51:08 [Speaker 2]
That's great.

00:51:08 [Speaker 3]
And so to me

00:51:10 [Speaker 2]
Do you know how many Fridays that was?

00:51:12 [Speaker 3]
No idea.
00:51:13 [Speaker 3]
I mean, we Many of them.
00:51:14 [Speaker 3]
And it and it was, like, not even my my friends from, like, my high school only.
00:51:18 [Speaker 3]
Like, sometimes after they graduate, I I would meet with the people from, like, the arts high school.
00:51:23 [Speaker 3]
We would like, it just became

00:51:24 [Speaker 2]
Expanded your yeah.

00:51:26 [Speaker 3]
Yes.
00:51:26 [Speaker 3]
And it was so I I think being, like, a super tall Asian gal in Georgia in, like, theater, I was, like, oh, this is the first time I was, like, being a freak is being, like, really celebrated.
00:51:39 [Speaker 3]
You know?
00:51:40 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:51:40 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:51:40 [Speaker 3]
So this movie meant so much to me.
00:51:43 [Speaker 3]
I also hadn't seen it in, like, fifteen years probably.

00:51:46 [Speaker 1]
So back then, what would your rating been?

00:51:48 [Speaker 3]
I think I probably would have just been like, it is five glistening mouths.
00:51:52 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
00:51:52 [Speaker 3]
You know?
00:51:53 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:51:53 [Speaker 3]
Five absolutely five out of five glistening mouths.

00:51:56 [Speaker 3]
I think now watching it, I have two different thoughts about it.
00:52:01 [Speaker 3]
I think I thought it was fucking still awesome as hell.
00:52:06 [Speaker 3]
And also as a film, like in the mute music slaps, you You know?
00:52:11 [Speaker 3]
Oh, one of the songs.
00:52:12 [Speaker 3]
Fucking slap.

00:52:13 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:52:13 [Speaker 3]
But as a film, I would say it really kind of we'll get to this.
00:52:18 [Speaker 3]
I I'm not gonna go go into it.
00:52:19 [Speaker 3]
I think I would give it maybe three glistening mouths.

00:52:22 [Speaker 1]
Three?

00:52:23 [Speaker 3]
Fine.
00:52:23 [Speaker 3]
Maybe maybe three and a half.
00:52:24 [Speaker 3]
Maybe three and a half.

00:52:26 [Speaker 1]
Three and a half glistening amounts.
00:52:28 [Speaker 1]
Okay.

00:52:28 [Speaker 2]
My jaw was dropped.
00:52:29 [Speaker 2]
But I love it.
00:52:30 [Speaker 2]
I mean, moist, like, glistening mat, like, ho.

00:52:34 [Speaker 1]
When you said moist, you just watched moist on Quibi.

00:52:38 [Speaker 2]
Holy Yeah.

00:52:39 [Speaker 1]
You got fifteen seconds of pleasure right there, which is what most women get, I

00:52:44 [Speaker 2]
think, unfortunately.
00:52:47 [Speaker 2]
Oh, oh, it is I?

00:52:49 [Speaker 1]
It is you, my good sir.

00:52:51 [Speaker 2]
K.
00:52:51 [Speaker 2]
First time I saw this movie, I saw it at my aunt Charmaine's.
00:52:56 [Speaker 2]
I think this person's come up where it was like, stay up and watch Nightmare on Elm Street five with me.
00:53:00 [Speaker 2]
You're like two.
00:53:02 [Speaker 2]
Wow.

00:53:03 [Speaker 2]
Great.
00:53:04 [Speaker 2]
So watched this in Phantom of the Paradise.
00:53:08 [Speaker 2]
And even as a kid was like, oh, I I didn't know musicals could be like this.
00:53:15 [Speaker 2]
Like, she had both of these movies on VHS and was like, you're watching these.
00:53:20 [Speaker 2]
And I must have been, like, 11 or 12, somewhere around that age.

00:53:26 [Speaker 2]
Wow.

00:53:26 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:53:27 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:53:27 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:53:27 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

00:53:30 [Speaker 2]
And I wanna say really quickly, I was fascinated with this movie for a thousand reasons as well as Phantom of the Paradise and kind of got into musicals for a little bit.
00:53:41 [Speaker 2]
So this was kind of my gateway to be like, oh, I'm gonna watch more musicals like Singin' in the Rain and stuff like that.
00:53:48 [Speaker 2]
But my second viewing, this girl that I had a crush on in high school invited me to go with friends to a midnight showing of this movie, and I was like, I know what that movie is about.
00:53:59 [Speaker 2]
Yes, please.
00:54:00 [Speaker 2]
Absolutely.

00:54:02 [Speaker 2]
And when and had a great time.
00:54:05 [Speaker 2]
Seeing this movie with a group of people is so integral to the viewing experience.

00:54:11 [Speaker 3]
Totally.

00:54:12 [Speaker 2]
And I had no idea because I had never watched this movie by myself until today.
00:54:20 [Speaker 2]
So walking away from my first, you know, I have seen this a few times and I've seen this as a musical a few times as a stage production as well, but it was like four bulges.
00:54:32 [Speaker 2]
Mhmm.
00:54:34 [Speaker 2]
Today, I watched it.
00:54:37 [Speaker 2]
Again, I really enjoyed it.

00:54:38 [Speaker 2]
There's so many crazy, like, audio pops and hearing mics and things that like, you know, we're we're trying again technical filmmaking shit that's kind of been mentioned and I don't know.
00:54:51 [Speaker 2]
I still had the best time, but I also found myself feeling so alone.
00:54:58 [Speaker 2]
Like, Ben Ben not wanting to or not voluntarily laughing or whatever.
00:55:05 [Speaker 2]
That's not his reaction to watching a movie alone normally, he said.
00:55:08 [Speaker 2]
True.

00:55:09 [Speaker 2]
I would normally wanna sing, like, time warp.

00:55:12 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:55:12 [Speaker 3]
Totally.

00:55:13 [Speaker 2]
And so I'm kinda humming it for a second and then like no one's really around.
00:55:18 [Speaker 2]
And so it's something about this like it's kind of like Miami Connection and this is a much better movie than that or The Room, this is a much better movie than that.
00:55:28 [Speaker 2]
But seeing it Oh, hi, Mark.
00:55:29 [Speaker 2]
With a group of people, it's just a much different experience.
00:55:33 [Speaker 2]
I walk away with three and a half bulges.

00:55:38 [Speaker 2]
I was on the verge of a three as well.
00:55:40 [Speaker 2]
I still just I had a a great time.
00:55:42 [Speaker 2]
I enjoyed the shit out of this movie, but there's just something about, like, oh, I I have no interest in picking this movie back up unless someone probably mentions it and wants to watch it with me or in a group.
00:55:55 [Speaker 2]
I don't know.

00:55:56 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:55:56 [Speaker 3]
It's like it wants to be an event.

00:55:58 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:55:59 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:56:00 [Speaker 2]
And and it's successful at that.
00:56:01 [Speaker 2]
Almost too successful for me, I think, where it's like, yeah.
00:56:05 [Speaker 2]
It has to be that.

00:56:06 [Speaker 2]
Ben.

00:56:07 [Speaker 1]
So this is one of the first movies my dad ever bought on DVD.

00:56:10 [Speaker 3]
What are you talking about?
00:56:12 [Speaker 3]
That is the first movie your dad bought on DVD.

00:56:14 [Speaker 1]
I wanna say we have

00:56:15 [Speaker 2]
He meditated over it.
00:56:16 [Speaker 2]
Trying to tell me.
00:56:17 [Speaker 2]
In the nude that I can dodge.
00:56:19 [Speaker 2]
We had both.
00:56:19 [Speaker 2]
Do a little kendo.

00:56:20 [Speaker 1]
The Matrix and Independence Day.

00:56:22 [Speaker 2]
I feel like these were like Woah.
00:56:24 [Speaker 2]
The holy shit.
00:56:25 [Speaker 2]
The Holy Trinity.
00:56:27 [Speaker 2]
So much sense.
00:56:28 [Speaker 2]
Trinity.

00:56:29 [Speaker 1]
Trinity.
00:56:30 [Speaker 1]
But my dad was a my dad was a hippie, especially through the sixties and seventies.

00:56:33 [Speaker 3]
Got you.

00:56:34 [Speaker 1]
And this and I remember he showed this to us probably at around 13, it must have been.
00:56:40 [Speaker 1]
And I did theater as a kid and musicals as a kid, but I just remember watching this at 13 being like, what the fuck is this?
00:56:48 [Speaker 1]
Like, how this is what this is what musicals can be.
00:56:52 [Speaker 1]
They can't just they're not just Disney movies, which this is now technically.
00:56:55 [Speaker 1]
But

00:56:56 [Speaker 2]
Oh, weird.
00:56:56 [Speaker 2]
That's crazy.
00:56:57 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

00:56:57 [Speaker 3]
Thing to say.

00:56:58 [Speaker 2]
We've talked about that already, but you just really made it land.

00:57:01 [Speaker 1]
I remember watching it, and then you brought up sexual awakenings.
00:57:04 [Speaker 1]
Well, I went back to this movie several times to fast forward to the Susan Sarandon touch me touch me touch me touch me.

00:57:11 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:57:11 [Speaker 3]
Totally.

00:57:12 [Speaker 1]
At a very pivotal age of 13, it was a huge part of my sexual awakening.
00:57:16 [Speaker 1]
Yep.
00:57:17 [Speaker 1]
And when that scene happened, when I watched it again today, I had, like, visceral reaction to watching it.
00:57:23 [Speaker 1]
Like, my my body, like, my my my body was in goosebumps.

00:57:26 [Speaker 2]
You had a quick bone.
00:57:28 [Speaker 2]
You had it.

00:57:28 [Speaker 1]
Back then, I would have given it five.
00:57:31 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:57:31 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:57:31 [Speaker 1]
It was shocking to me that this was a thing that existed.
00:57:35 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.

00:57:35 [Speaker 2]
You put it in much better terms than me, like, that especially that specific moment.
00:57:40 [Speaker 2]
That was something for me.
00:57:41 [Speaker 2]
It was that her singing touch me.
00:57:43 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:57:44 [Speaker 2]
Like, that was the thing that I was like, well

00:57:45 [Speaker 1]
The looking of

00:57:45 [Speaker 2]
the Yeah.
00:57:46 [Speaker 2]
The looking of

00:57:46 [Speaker 1]
the skirt and then putting

00:57:48 [Speaker 2]
his

00:57:48 [Speaker 1]
hands on her breasts.
00:57:49 [Speaker 1]
I was like, what?
00:57:50 [Speaker 1]
This is a thing that we can do at some point in our lives.

00:57:53 [Speaker 3]
Wow.
00:57:53 [Speaker 3]
It's so it's fun that they give us so many different options of moments you can have like that because for me, it's and that moment is hot as hell.
00:58:00 [Speaker 3]
And I I think Rocky, you could throw him away.

00:58:02 [Speaker 1]
Sure.

00:58:03 [Speaker 3]
Frank Umruder is a confusing, sexy motherfucker.

00:58:06 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:58:06 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

00:58:07 [Speaker 1]
He's a

00:58:08 [Speaker 2]
force.
00:58:08 [Speaker 2]
So overwhelmed by

00:58:10 [Speaker 3]
by Tim Curry in this movie.
00:58:12 [Speaker 3]
And Brad, actually.
00:58:13 [Speaker 3]
I think Brad is cute.

00:58:14 [Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah.
00:58:14 [Speaker 2]
And he Barry Bostwick is so he was, like, the secret sauce.

00:58:18 [Speaker 1]
And he gave me some, like I was, like, oh, you know, he could have been a Clark Kent Superman.

00:58:22 [Speaker 3]
Totally.
00:58:23 [Speaker 3]
Wow.

00:58:24 [Speaker 2]
Sure.
00:58:25 [Speaker 2]
Wow.
00:58:26 [Speaker 2]
We'll we'll come come have a listen in a couple weeks, y'all.

00:58:30 [Speaker 1]
I've watched this movie regularly, I think, for a while after that, you know, into high school, especially once I got more into drama.
00:58:36 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.
00:58:37 [Speaker 1]
I have a slightly embarrassing story where I showed it to my in college, my very Christian girlfriend freshman year of college.
00:58:44 [Speaker 1]
I showed her this movie Bold.
00:58:47 [Speaker 1]
Where she didn't wanna have sex.

00:58:49 [Speaker 1]
And she she and I had already wanted that.

00:58:51 [Speaker 2]
And Oh, you were using You were like us as a tool So you

00:58:53 [Speaker 3]
were like, let's show you how cool

00:58:54 [Speaker 2]
it should be.
00:58:55 [Speaker 2]
That.
00:58:55 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

00:58:56 [Speaker 1]
I believe I said something, and I'm I'm very embarrassed to admit this.
00:59:00 [Speaker 1]
I believe I said something when Rocky showed up.
00:59:02 [Speaker 1]
I believe It's

00:59:03 [Speaker 2]
just forever.
00:59:03 [Speaker 2]
It's okay.

00:59:04 [Speaker 1]
No.
00:59:05 [Speaker 1]
I I think I said something like, I think I think that's the kind of body I wanna have someday.

00:59:09 [Speaker 3]
Woah.
00:59:10 [Speaker 3]
Oh, that's sweet.

00:59:13 [Speaker 1]
That's something I said to her.

00:59:14 [Speaker 2]
That's, like Yeah.
00:59:16 [Speaker 2]
Six something 7% body fat.
00:59:18 [Speaker 2]
That's crazy.

00:59:19 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:59:19 [Speaker 3]
That guy is, like, really

00:59:21 [Speaker 2]
Super ripped.

00:59:22 [Speaker 3]
I mean, I know.
00:59:23 [Speaker 3]
For that time, I just feel like they didn't look like that.

00:59:26 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:59:26 [Speaker 2]
Agree.
00:59:27 [Speaker 2]
And he Looks like Yvonne Drago.
00:59:29 [Speaker 2]
It's like it's

00:59:29 [Speaker 4]
Even more unbelievable.

00:59:31 [Speaker 1]
Trimmed down then.
00:59:32 [Speaker 1]
He's not, like, super ripped.
00:59:34 [Speaker 1]
I mean, he is ripped, but it's more, like, a little body fat.
00:59:36 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:59:36 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

00:59:37 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:59:37 [Speaker 3]
And that's what you wanted.

00:59:39 [Speaker 1]
I guess.
00:59:39 [Speaker 1]
I don't know.
00:59:39 [Speaker 1]
I think

00:59:40 [Speaker 2]
Frankie, but he's strong, but he's I think I was

00:59:42 [Speaker 1]
just trying to get Prod.
00:59:43 [Speaker 1]
To be like, okay.
00:59:45 [Speaker 1]
Let's fuck.

00:59:45 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:59:46 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:59:46 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:59:46 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:59:46 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:59:46 [Speaker 1]
Well,

00:59:47 [Speaker 2]
yes.
00:59:47 [Speaker 2]
Yes.
00:59:47 [Speaker 2]
You were.
00:59:48 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:59:48 [Speaker 2]
That's what you were doing.

00:59:50 [Speaker 1]
So, anyway, I watched this movie today after I got home from work.
00:59:53 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.
00:59:54 [Speaker 1]
Watched it with my cat.

00:59:56 [Speaker 3]
Love lovely time.
00:59:56 [Speaker 3]
Myself.

00:59:57 [Speaker 2]
And it

00:59:58 [Speaker 1]
was fascinating.
00:59:59 [Speaker 1]
I started singing the songs.
01:00:00 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.
01:00:01 [Speaker 1]
And he does not like singing.
01:00:03 [Speaker 1]
So I had to stop that.

01:00:04 [Speaker 2]
Fun stuff.

01:00:05 [Speaker 1]
He was, like, cuddled up to me.
01:00:06 [Speaker 1]
And every time I started singing, he'd, like, turn up and look at me like, the fuck, dude?
01:00:09 [Speaker 1]
What are you doing?
01:00:10 [Speaker 1]
Stop.
01:00:11 [Speaker 1]
I'm sleeping here.

01:00:12 [Speaker 1]
I'm like, alright.
01:00:13 [Speaker 1]
Sorry.
01:00:14 [Speaker 1]
But I had so many visceral reactions, and then I started doing the stupid thing where I'm, like, deconstructing the, like, story structure where I'm where I'm like, oh, well, act one's set up really clearly, and then act two just kinda goes bonkers.
01:00:27 [Speaker 1]
And act three, I'm like, I don't know who the villain is.
01:00:29 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:00:29 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:00:30 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:00:30 [Speaker 3]
This is this is this is why I go down to three and a half as act three.

01:00:33 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:00:34 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:00:34 [Speaker 1]
I was like, wait.
01:00:35 [Speaker 1]
Was Frank and Ferrer the villain in this movie, or was he not the villain in this movie?
01:00:38 [Speaker 1]
He killed somebody.

01:00:40 [Speaker 1]
Disunderstood.
01:00:40 [Speaker 1]
They murdered someone on screen.
01:00:42 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:00:43 [Speaker 1]
They made it he forced to eat he kinda raped people.

01:00:46 [Speaker 3]
Yes.
01:00:47 [Speaker 3]
And then forced them to eat their lover.

01:00:49 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:00:49 [Speaker 1]
And then they're all feeling that.
01:00:51 [Speaker 1]
And so there was, like, me, like, am I supposed to be doing that right now?
01:00:53 [Speaker 1]
It's Rocky Horror Picture Show.
01:00:54 [Speaker 1]
It's a fucking stupid thing to do.

01:00:55 [Speaker 1]
Very pretentious.
01:00:57 [Speaker 1]
I walked away after this viewing with three and a half statues with bushes because that statue's got a bush.

01:01:04 [Speaker 3]
Who does?

01:01:06 [Speaker 2]
I sent an image that I sent I sent it to Ben where I paused the movie, and it's where Rocky's, like, running and there's a statue and his the dick is, like, right by Rocky, and I'm, like, well, alright.
01:01:19 [Speaker 2]
And I just, like, went to go do what I was doing or whatever.
01:01:22 [Speaker 2]
And I was like, and it has a bush.

01:01:26 [Speaker 3]
Wait.
01:01:26 [Speaker 3]
I have a question for you all for for both for Please.
01:01:29 [Speaker 3]
All the 80 people that are here.
01:01:31 [Speaker 3]
Do you think that all of the statues in the house are made by the Medusa machine?
01:01:36 [Speaker 3]
Are they real people that were turned into statues?

01:01:38 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:01:39 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:01:39 [Speaker 3]
Because there's

01:01:39 [Speaker 1]
this and I wanna bring this up when we start the movie.
01:01:41 [Speaker 1]
There's this, like, fixation on art in

01:01:44 [Speaker 3]
this movie.
01:01:45 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:01:45 [Speaker 2]
And

01:01:45 [Speaker 1]
there's, like, atoms in this movie, the thinking man's in this movie.
01:01:48 [Speaker 1]
There's, like Yeah.
01:01:49 [Speaker 1]
Venus de Milo's in this like, there's a bunch of, like

01:01:52 [Speaker 2]
Atlas.

01:01:52 [Speaker 1]
I don't know.

01:01:53 [Speaker 3]
Atlas.
01:01:54 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:01:55 [Speaker 1]
So I don't know.
01:01:56 [Speaker 1]
And I was, like, I wrote one of my notes was just artwork question mark.
01:02:00 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:02:00 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:02:00 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:02:00 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:02:00 [Speaker 1]
Because I didn't understand what that was about.
01:02:03 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:02:03 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:02:04 [Speaker 2]
I'm glad you question marked it.
01:02:05 [Speaker 2]
And Keiko, I'm glad you brought it up because, he's had several creations.
01:02:09 [Speaker 2]
Right?
01:02:10 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:02:10 [Speaker 2]
So I I wondered the same thing if some of them weren't.

01:02:14 [Speaker 1]
And how long has he been doing this?

01:02:16 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:02:16 [Speaker 2]
How long has he been on Earth?
01:02:18 [Speaker 2]
How long have the yeah.
01:02:20 [Speaker 2]
Hard to say.

01:02:21 [Speaker 3]
Hard to say.
01:02:22 [Speaker 3]
I

01:02:23 [Speaker 2]
think it's about that time.

01:02:24 [Speaker 1]
Start the movie.

01:02:25 [Speaker 2]
Start the movie.
01:02:27 [Speaker 2]
Start the movie.
01:02:27 [Speaker 2]
Start the movie.
01:02:33 [Speaker 2]
And now our feature presentation.
01:02:37 [Speaker 2]
I love the fanfare, the change in the fanfare for the Fox theme and just those lips.

01:02:43 [Speaker 2]
It's so bold.

01:02:45 [Speaker 3]
I forgot that that's how it started with the mouth.
01:02:48 [Speaker 3]
Well I I get Yeah.
01:02:49 [Speaker 3]
I haven't seen this movie in, like, at least ten years, and I forgot that it starts with the mouth because what's shocking about it is it's definitely the dude that plays riffraff singing.

01:02:58 [Speaker 1]
Brian.

01:02:58 [Speaker 3]
But it's someone else's mouth.

01:03:00 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:03:00 [Speaker 1]
For so long, I thought it was Neil Young singing because it was so, like, high pitched.
01:03:07 [Speaker 1]
It felt very

01:03:08 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:03:08 [Speaker 1]
Neil Young y.
01:03:09 [Speaker 1]
And I remember one time I listened to and I was listening to a Neil Young song, and I was like, is this the wrong new picture?
01:03:16 [Speaker 1]
And someone looked at me like, the fuck?
01:03:18 [Speaker 1]
I had some fucking

01:03:20 [Speaker 3]
idiot.
01:03:20 [Speaker 3]
That is so funny.
01:03:22 [Speaker 3]
Oh my god.

01:03:22 [Speaker 1]
Like, my ass.
01:03:24 [Speaker 1]
Of course.
01:03:24 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:03:25 [Speaker 1]
The

01:03:26 [Speaker 2]
the boldness god.

01:03:27 [Speaker 3]
That is so funny.

01:03:28 [Speaker 2]
The boldness of the mouth and how intimate that is.
01:03:32 [Speaker 2]
And I am immediately reminded of this is a ride.
01:03:36 [Speaker 2]
Like, this is very bold, very extreme.
01:03:41 [Speaker 2]
That kind

01:03:41 [Speaker 1]
of I think it's a man's mouth.

01:03:44 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:03:44 [Speaker 3]
I think it's magenta.
01:03:46 [Speaker 3]
Oh, you think It's magenta's mouth with riffraff's voice.
01:03:49 [Speaker 3]
Oh, interesting.

01:03:51 [Speaker 1]
Oh, so already they're fucking with gender Yeah.

01:03:53 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:03:53 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:03:54 [Speaker 1]
In a way that, like, makes you

01:03:55 [Speaker 3]
With these

01:03:56 [Speaker 1]
crushed in.

01:03:57 [Speaker 3]
With this couple slash third act reveal siblings?

01:04:00 [Speaker 2]
It's incestual.
01:04:02 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:04:03 [Speaker 1]
White Lotus.
01:04:04 [Speaker 1]
You know, siblings can fuck, I guess, or get hand jobs or whatever.

01:04:09 [Speaker 3]
It's like I don't think that's what White Lotus is saying that you can't do

01:04:13 [Speaker 2]
that.
01:04:13 [Speaker 2]
Hand job.

01:04:13 [Speaker 1]
Away with it.
01:04:14 [Speaker 1]
That's what I took away with it.
01:04:16 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:04:17 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:04:17 [Speaker 1]
You can hand drive with your siblings right here.

01:04:21 [Speaker 2]
Hokey pokey.
01:04:22 [Speaker 2]
That is that

01:04:23 [Speaker 3]
would be the cutest thing to find out that that's what someone thought h j like, that's what that meant.
01:04:29 [Speaker 3]
My boyfriend asked me to hand

01:04:30 [Speaker 1]
jive with me.
01:04:31 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:04:31 [Speaker 3]
We're already getting ready.

01:04:33 [Speaker 2]
That's all.
01:04:34 [Speaker 2]
It's just a cool new dance.

01:04:35 [Speaker 1]
I got a little moist.

01:04:38 [Speaker 2]
The wedding that's happening here in this photographer and his crazy voice, and we meet Brad and Janet right up front and immediately get a song.
01:04:49 [Speaker 2]
Damn it,

01:04:50 [Speaker 1]
Janet.
01:04:51 [Speaker 1]
Very quick.
01:04:51 [Speaker 1]
Bop.
01:04:52 [Speaker 1]
Oh, I

01:04:53 [Speaker 2]
think that song is so good.

01:04:54 [Speaker 1]
The music

01:04:55 [Speaker 3]
in the so good.

01:04:56 [Speaker 1]
The music in the show, that's the thing that I keep is this a campy kind of bad story with really good music?
01:05:03 [Speaker 1]
That's kind of like or a fun script with really good like, I I don't know.

01:05:10 [Speaker 3]
I I think it's like, if you could start critiquing it, you get the three three and a half or whatever.
01:05:16 [Speaker 3]
It's so fucking fun.

01:05:17 [Speaker 1]
It is fun.

01:05:18 [Speaker 3]
Whole thing is so is this wait.
01:05:19 [Speaker 3]
I do have a question.
01:05:19 [Speaker 3]
Is this Susan Saranda's first movie or no?

01:05:22 [Speaker 2]
I don't believe so.
01:05:23 [Speaker 2]
I think, a movie that we listed called Joe, she did with Peter Boyle predates this as well as a few other things.

01:05:31 [Speaker 3]
Man, she is so young and and fucking cute as a button.

01:05:37 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:05:37 [Speaker 1]
Again, visceral reaction.

01:05:40 [Speaker 2]
Them as a couple.
01:05:41 [Speaker 2]
Like Oh my gosh.

01:05:42 [Speaker 1]
One of the things I wrote after the the wedding happens, the car, they drive off on in the wedding.
01:05:48 [Speaker 1]
The it says, like, in big letters, it says, wait till tonight.
01:05:51 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:05:52 [Speaker 1]
She got hers.
01:05:53 [Speaker 1]
Now he'll get his.

01:05:54 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:05:55 [Speaker 2]
I was like,

01:05:55 [Speaker 1]
Jesus Christ.
01:05:56 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:05:57 [Speaker 2]
What is that?
01:05:57 [Speaker 2]
I

01:05:58 [Speaker 1]
know.
01:05:58 [Speaker 1]
And I I think, like, it's interesting to me because I think what the movie is doing, which we can get to later.
01:06:03 [Speaker 1]
But part of what I think the movie is doing is, like, combating this puritanical

01:06:08 [Speaker 3]
Absolutely.

01:06:09 [Speaker 1]
Like, this idea of the conservative, heteronormative marriage.

01:06:14 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:06:14 [Speaker 1]
And it's, like, taking that and just fucking kicking it into this space.

01:06:19 [Speaker 3]
It's well, I mean, it's really just saying, like, all of those people who think that they're so pure are capable of just as much perversion

01:06:25 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.

01:06:26 [Speaker 3]
As anyone else, and they actually want it.

01:06:28 [Speaker 1]
Given the option.

01:06:28 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:06:29 [Speaker 2]
They're just repressed.
01:06:31 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:06:31 [Speaker 2]
Just repression, like, more than anything else.
01:06:33 [Speaker 2]
Like, ask I don't think so.

01:06:35 [Speaker 2]
About his ladybugs.

01:06:36 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:06:37 [Speaker 2]
What about the ladybugs?
01:06:38 [Speaker 2]
But I I love Charles Grey as the narrator Oh my god.
01:06:43 [Speaker 2]
Where he has, like and now the Denton affair.
01:06:46 [Speaker 2]
And he's he's the vessel for here's what's happening outside of songs more than anything else.

01:06:54 [Speaker 1]
Also, before we go further, are we all at three and a half?

01:06:57 [Speaker 3]
I think so.
01:06:58 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:06:58 [Speaker 2]
Oh, we're in the triumphant.

01:07:00 [Speaker 1]
We are.
01:07:02 [Speaker 1]
Wow.
01:07:02 [Speaker 1]
Wild.
01:07:03 [Speaker 1]
I just think that's great.
01:07:04 [Speaker 1]
I think that we all we all came from a higher place.

01:07:06 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:07:07 [Speaker 1]
And now we're all at three and a half, which I also was kinda teetering on three, to be honest.

01:07:11 [Speaker 3]
I know.
01:07:11 [Speaker 3]
I'm I'm I'm in between.
01:07:12 [Speaker 3]
I know.
01:07:13 [Speaker 3]
Because it's like, my love for the movie actually hasn't changed.

01:07:16 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:07:17 [Speaker 1]
Me neither.

01:07:17 [Speaker 3]
It's just how good the movie as a movie is is is what I'm talking about.

01:07:23 [Speaker 2]
True or false, three and a half out of five or is the way that we see it on Letterboxd.
01:07:30 [Speaker 2]
Sometimes those are the best movies.
01:07:34 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:07:34 [Speaker 1]
Can be.
01:07:34 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:07:35 [Speaker 1]
Especially rewatchable movies.

01:07:36 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:07:37 [Speaker 2]
Part of my thing with musicals is I feel like I saw Cabaret and all that jazz and Sound of Music and was like, no thanks as a young person.
01:07:47 [Speaker 2]
And then saw this and was like, what's this?
01:07:49 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:07:49 [Speaker 2]
I'm horny.

01:07:50 [Speaker 2]
Okay.
01:07:51 [Speaker 2]
Sure.
01:07:53 [Speaker 2]
And those other things that I just went over to a degree, especially Sound of Music are not this.

01:08:00 [Speaker 1]
At a certain point, I watched this and Little Shop of Horrors on reading.

01:08:03 [Speaker 3]
Oh, yeah.
01:08:04 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:08:04 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:08:04 [Speaker 1]
Like, these were Absolutely.
01:08:06 [Speaker 1]
My junior high days of, like, musical love, those were the two.

01:08:09 [Speaker 3]
100%.
01:08:10 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:08:10 [Speaker 3]
And but just to see, this movie, like, the song with the mouth is what I'll call it, that one is just a prologue.
01:08:16 [Speaker 3]
Right?
01:08:16 [Speaker 3]
Like, I don't I don't count that as part of the story.

01:08:19 [Speaker 3]
The movie starts at the wedding, and then we have immediately a song.
01:08:22 [Speaker 3]
And in the song, we immediately have our inciting incident.
01:08:26 [Speaker 3]
Brad proposes to Janet.
01:08:29 [Speaker 3]
And then in song, I love when song actually, like, moves the story forward, says, let's go see the man who began it.
01:08:35 [Speaker 3]
And then that's like, oh, we're off.

01:08:38 [Speaker 3]
You know?
01:08:38 [Speaker 3]
And, like, the fact that the movie starts so quickly into, like, story is quite very efficient and and quite impressive, actually.

01:08:48 [Speaker 1]
What do you make of Tim Curry and Richard Bryan, the other actors, Magenta and Columbia, being at the wedding?

01:08:54 [Speaker 3]
I find it confusing.
01:08:56 [Speaker 3]
No.

01:08:57 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:08:58 [Speaker 1]
It's not their characters.
01:08:59 [Speaker 1]
Right?
01:08:59 [Speaker 1]
It's just

01:09:00 [Speaker 3]
I don't know.
01:09:01 [Speaker 3]
But Riff Raff has the pitchfork and later, he has a a pitchfork laser.

01:09:06 [Speaker 1]
The American Gothic, the obsession with artwork.
01:09:08 [Speaker 1]
I was like, is this purposeful?
01:09:10 [Speaker 1]
Is this just motif?
01:09:12 [Speaker 1]
Like, what is the reasoning for this artwork?

01:09:15 [Speaker 2]
I hate honestly, as as we're talking about this, art or artistry is like the dream, and I find myself or, you know, achieving that feeling of it is the dream.
01:09:28 [Speaker 2]
And I feel like I wonder at times, is this all just sort of

01:09:34 [Speaker 1]
If you dream.
01:09:35 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:09:36 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:09:37 [Speaker 1]
I mean, this did become, like, a very queer mantra, and it was a big queer awakening for so many people.

01:09:43 [Speaker 2]
This movie is essential.
01:09:45 [Speaker 2]
The fact that it's in the national registry is important.
01:09:49 [Speaker 2]
This is

01:09:49 [Speaker 1]
an important movie.

01:09:51 [Speaker 2]
But it is an important movie, like

01:09:54 [Speaker 3]
Totally.
01:09:54 [Speaker 3]
I

01:09:54 [Speaker 1]
100% agree.

01:09:55 [Speaker 3]
And I and I will say though to the to the counterpoint of them not being the same is, like, there's a point where the three of them are whispering.

01:10:02 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:10:02 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:10:03 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:10:03 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:10:03 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:10:03 [Speaker 3]
And they're, like, conniving a little bit.
01:10:05 [Speaker 3]
So it does but but, like, clearly, they're not this isn't all a ploy to get them there.
01:10:10 [Speaker 3]
So I I don't Well I think I think I think there is, like, a part of this that I just have to just, like, instead of, I mean, you know, that that's some of this movie, I do think it's fun to intellectually.
01:10:21 [Speaker 3]
That's one of those things where I'm just like, I just let this wash over me.
01:10:24 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:10:25 [Speaker 3]
I don't know if they've thought this through as much as that they were like, it's kinda cool.
01:10:29 [Speaker 3]
You know?
01:10:29 [Speaker 3]
And I'm all and I'm and I'm also like, it is kinda cool.

01:10:33 [Speaker 1]
I agree.
01:10:34 [Speaker 1]
Bad musicals.
01:10:35 [Speaker 1]
I watched, Joker two on the plane.

01:10:37 [Speaker 3]
Oh, no.
01:10:37 [Speaker 3]
Oh my god.

01:10:39 [Speaker 4]
That's not

01:10:39 [Speaker 1]
I watched it with my dad.
01:10:40 [Speaker 1]
Let's just not No.
01:10:42 [Speaker 1]
I just wanna do you want a movie to come to a screeching halt with music?

01:10:46 [Speaker 3]
Oh, man.

01:10:47 [Speaker 2]
Yikes.
01:10:47 [Speaker 2]
That's because that's

01:10:48 [Speaker 1]
higher.
01:10:48 [Speaker 1]
Because that's all he does.
01:10:49 [Speaker 1]
Like, that movie just goes like, oh, it's movie movie movie and then music.
01:10:53 [Speaker 1]
And you're like

01:10:53 [Speaker 3]
I can't remember our song.

01:10:56 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:10:56 [Speaker 1]
Me neither.

01:10:56 [Speaker 2]
That's the good to know.
01:10:58 [Speaker 2]
That's the thing about this that's so great as, Keiko, you were saying, like, the song gets everything kicked off.
01:11:04 [Speaker 2]
And and then I find myself wondering after the narrator plugs in kind of here's the deal is when their tire goes out and they see all these motorcycles later and everything, you know, they're listening to Richard Nixon repression

01:11:18 [Speaker 1]
Oh my goodness.

01:11:19 [Speaker 2]
On a rainy night.

01:11:20 [Speaker 1]
His his, like,

01:11:22 [Speaker 2]
Designation address.
01:11:23 [Speaker 2]
Resignation address.

01:11:24 [Speaker 3]
Oh, that's right.

01:11:25 [Speaker 2]
And and they go to a dead end that's probably not actually a dead end, and they their tire gets blown out, like, were they whispering about how they were gonna trap them?
01:11:34 [Speaker 2]
That was, like, one of the things I wonder.

01:11:36 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:11:37 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:11:37 [Speaker 3]
It does feel like they were trapped actually because the dead end is there, and clearly there's something put on the other side to fuck with their weight.

01:11:43 [Speaker 1]
Guys are actually making the story make more sense to me.
01:11:46 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:11:46 [Speaker 1]
Because if they wanna get Brad there, that's how he's gonna get doctor Scott there.
01:11:51 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.
01:11:51 [Speaker 1]
Correct.

01:11:52 [Speaker 1]
That actually makes

01:11:53 [Speaker 2]
was gonna lead to.

01:11:54 [Speaker 4]
Damn it.

01:11:55 [Speaker 1]
That actually makes so much more sense.
01:11:56 [Speaker 1]
Damn it.

01:11:57 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:11:57 [Speaker 2]
I love you.

01:11:58 [Speaker 1]
If they really are.
01:11:59 [Speaker 1]
Because Yeah.
01:12:00 [Speaker 1]
Okay.

01:12:01 [Speaker 3]
And and I in that moment, I will say, like, there's actually, like, a beautiful shot in the movie where, like, it's through the windshield, and the rain gets harder

01:12:09 [Speaker 1]
and harder and harder.

01:12:10 [Speaker 3]
And why not?
01:12:10 [Speaker 3]
It was just It's great.
01:12:11 [Speaker 3]
I wasn't expecting to be like, wow.
01:12:13 [Speaker 3]
That was this beautiful shot in this movie.

01:12:16 [Speaker 1]
Rain on the windshield.
01:12:17 [Speaker 1]
That was so funny.

01:12:18 [Speaker 2]
That yeah.
01:12:18 [Speaker 2]
Should wait.
01:12:19 [Speaker 2]
May I see it?
01:12:20 [Speaker 2]
Please.
01:12:21 [Speaker 2]
I know I'm an asshole.

01:12:22 [Speaker 2]
It's not you wrote it in your notes.
01:12:24 [Speaker 2]
No.
01:12:24 [Speaker 2]
But I I thought that too where I was like, oh, is this where we're fully in the dream?
01:12:28 [Speaker 2]
Is there some sort of intention here?
01:12:30 [Speaker 2]
Like, I don't know because I we just did the movie the, the a game, and I have a tendency to decide to

01:12:38 [Speaker 1]
With Liz Ellison.

01:12:39 [Speaker 2]
Plug plug things in or be, like, well, this is this.
01:12:43 [Speaker 2]
And it's me making decisions that are sometimes a reach, but

01:12:49 [Speaker 1]
But but as we're talking about these, like, awesome things, I I think we have to continually come back to the fact this movie was made for $1,400,000

01:12:57 [Speaker 2]
Mhmm.
01:12:58 [Speaker 2]
In

01:12:58 [Speaker 1]
that time, which translate what to 8.4, which is still nothing

01:13:02 [Speaker 3]
Right.

01:13:02 [Speaker 1]
For a movie.
01:13:03 [Speaker 1]
And I think that is absolutely insane.

01:13:06 [Speaker 3]
It's a sci fi.
01:13:07 [Speaker 3]
Why nature of it is what makes it so charming

01:13:09 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:13:10 [Speaker 2]
Too.
01:13:10 [Speaker 2]
Hardworking fucking people.
01:13:12 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:13:13 [Speaker 3]
There was a point where I wrote I mean, right off like, around here, after they get out and they're walking towards the castle Same.
01:13:18 [Speaker 3]
I wrote, I've never seen anything like this before or since.

01:13:23 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:13:24 [Speaker 2]
That's pretty fair, I think.
01:13:26 [Speaker 2]
You know, I I

01:13:26 [Speaker 3]
have, like, a couple commissions right now for plays and I was like, man, I'm a little dried up right now with ideas.
01:13:30 [Speaker 3]
And then watching that movie, I was like, I wanna make something that feels like this.
01:13:34 [Speaker 3]
Like, not the campiness necessarily, but I want it to feel as fun and exciting and being like, I have no idea what's gonna happen.

01:13:40 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:13:41 [Speaker 1]
That's so I wouldn't walk in towards that castle and, like, imagine you're in the theater and you don't know anything about this place.
01:13:47 [Speaker 1]
You don't know anything about this movie, and they're singing that song.

01:13:51 [Speaker 3]
All you know is that poster with the mouth.
01:13:53 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:13:54 [Speaker 2]
There's a light and there the pushes and, like, Dolly pushes and, like, things.
01:13:59 [Speaker 2]
This also is where I'm, like, I forgot how delightfully British this feels.
01:14:04 [Speaker 2]
When it gets

01:14:04 [Speaker 4]
to Act

01:14:05 [Speaker 1]
one feels very like, you know, neither living dead feels very

01:14:10 [Speaker 3]
like Mhmm.

01:14:10 [Speaker 1]
The setup is very strong in terms of where this journey is going.
01:14:15 [Speaker 1]
And this is where I start to pick it apart a little bit is because I don't know what exactly what is the thing that Brad and Janet need to solve?
01:14:27 [Speaker 1]
Is it their sexual repression?
01:14:29 [Speaker 1]
Is that what we're getting to?
01:14:31 [Speaker 1]
Which isn't really set up in the first act.

01:14:32 [Speaker 1]
It's kinda set up Right.
01:14:33 [Speaker 1]
Right.
01:14:34 [Speaker 1]
Later.

01:14:34 [Speaker 3]
As far as they they don't think they have a problem.

01:14:37 [Speaker 1]
No.
01:14:37 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:14:38 [Speaker 1]
Totally.
01:14:38 [Speaker 1]
We don't see any sort of even an inkling of repression.
01:14:43 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:14:43 [Speaker 1]
Except for maybe the fact that this wedding seems boring.
01:14:46 [Speaker 1]
I don't know.

01:14:46 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:14:47 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:14:48 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:14:48 [Speaker 3]
But I but I do think that there's, like, a idea of, like, that's that's actually why structurally, it's it's different in a way that's cool is, like, is the fact that it's, like, they didn't know that they were missing out on something until their eyes were open.

01:15:01 [Speaker 1]
Which is the seventies.
01:15:02 [Speaker 1]
Right?
01:15:02 [Speaker 1]
That's what they're doing.
01:15:03 [Speaker 1]
They're

01:15:03 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:15:03 [Speaker 3]
And, honestly, like, living in the Bible Belt where I grew up, I was like, oh, shit.
01:15:09 [Speaker 3]
Yes.
01:15:09 [Speaker 3]
Like, that that made sense to me where, like, the movie was, to me, was what the castle was to ride

01:15:15 [Speaker 1]
into it.
01:15:15 [Speaker 1]
It was like getting getting thrown into this counterculture.

01:15:18 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:15:19 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:15:20 [Speaker 2]
It's almost like they Frank N Furter and Riff Raff and everybody decided to be at that wedding almost like they were scoping people out or something.
01:15:32 [Speaker 2]
It's Ben, you made the point where it's like, what's written on the side of the car, I think says everything about who they are and what they support, and then we kind of hear it through, you know, song a little bit.
01:15:44 [Speaker 2]
But

01:15:45 [Speaker 1]
I mean, sure.
01:15:46 [Speaker 1]
Because again, like, right, this is a time where men were allowed to be horny and, like, go after women, but women couldn't be horny.

01:15:55 [Speaker 3]
And men couldn't be horny and go after other men.

01:15:57 [Speaker 1]
Right.
01:15:57 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:15:58 [Speaker 1]
Right.
01:15:58 [Speaker 1]
They can only go after their wives after they were married.
01:16:01 [Speaker 1]
Right.

01:16:02 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:16:02 [Speaker 2]
So we meet riffraff and a bunch of the staff.

01:16:05 [Speaker 3]
And can I say my favorite riffraff line?

01:16:08 [Speaker 2]
Fraf and the staff.

01:16:08 [Speaker 3]
He's he's he says something like you've you've come on you've come on a good night.
01:16:12 [Speaker 3]
It's one of the master's affairs.
01:16:15 [Speaker 3]
Oh, it's good.
01:16:16 [Speaker 3]
My my

01:16:17 [Speaker 1]
my favorite my favorite lines were and let me finish it, Paul.
01:16:21 [Speaker 1]
Please don't finish my, Big Mac.
01:16:23 [Speaker 1]
Sandwich?
01:16:24 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:16:25 [Speaker 1]
My sandwich.

01:16:25 [Speaker 1]
So Is when he they he'd say, like, can we use the phone?
01:16:29 [Speaker 1]
And she got he goes, you're wet.
01:16:31 [Speaker 1]
And little pause, and she goes, yes.
01:16:35 [Speaker 1]
It's raining.

01:16:37 [Speaker 2]
That's so good.
01:16:39 [Speaker 2]
I'm moist.
01:16:40 [Speaker 2]
Yes.

01:16:40 [Speaker 3]
That's actually, like, a very authentic moment.
01:16:43 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:16:43 [Speaker 3]
Weirdly.
01:16:44 [Speaker 3]
Susan Sarandon is, like, too good of an actor to not still be good in this, like, campy

01:16:49 [Speaker 2]
ass movie.
01:16:49 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:16:50 [Speaker 2]
I like too that this we were talking about this when we did half baked how people are paranoid and terrified of things that are not they have no reason to be paranoid or terrified necessarily through experience.
01:17:02 [Speaker 2]
And these people come into this castle, and these people that they're interacting with in this castle all seem like, you know, strange, but they don't seem like they're, like, violent or scary or anything.
01:17:13 [Speaker 2]
And so it's like Brad and Janet being like, it we can't use the phone.

01:17:18 [Speaker 2]
We're gonna stick around if we're trying to apply logic.
01:17:21 [Speaker 2]
To me, it's, like, not crazy that they're like, this is kind of interesting.

01:17:25 [Speaker 1]
Brad's like dancing.

01:17:27 [Speaker 2]
And that they're gonna get yes.

01:17:29 [Speaker 1]
He's like he's like

01:17:30 [Speaker 2]
And that they're gonna get unlocked at a point.

01:17:32 [Speaker 3]
It's the first time we see, like in the whole movie really, but but, like, they're, you know, they're at this wedding, and they come here, and then there's, like, a black person and an Asian person and, like, a white person and, like, all these weird you know, it's just, like, a diverse, like and it says something like Transylvania something conference.

01:17:48 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:17:48 [Speaker 1]
I remember that.
01:17:49 [Speaker 1]
Where it comes from.
01:17:50 [Speaker 1]
Okay.
01:17:50 [Speaker 1]
Funny story.

01:17:51 [Speaker 1]
I did a production of Alice in Wonderland my senior year of high school, and for some reason, our directors decided to have us sing Time Warp as one of the scenes.

01:18:01 [Speaker 2]
That's interesting.

01:18:03 [Speaker 3]
That says a lot about your drama teacher.

01:18:05 [Speaker 1]
Oh, yeah.
01:18:05 [Speaker 1]
They were they

01:18:06 [Speaker 2]
were Were you the Mad Hatter?

01:18:07 [Speaker 3]
That's a fireable thing these days.

01:18:09 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:18:09 [Speaker 1]
And oh, they got fired the next season.

01:18:12 [Speaker 2]
Oh.

01:18:12 [Speaker 1]
But they were Gen x through and through.
01:18:14 [Speaker 1]
Gosh.
01:18:15 [Speaker 1]
God bless.
01:18:15 [Speaker 1]
This this movie, I think, is very much jet like gen like, yeah.
01:18:21 [Speaker 1]
I feel like it talks to everybody, but I feel like Gen X might be in that sweet spot.

01:18:24 [Speaker 2]
Totally.
01:18:25 [Speaker 2]
Totally.
01:18:26 [Speaker 2]
As Frank N Furter has this incredible entrance, it's so good.

01:18:31 [Speaker 3]
He was even better than I remember.

01:18:34 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:18:34 [Speaker 1]
It's

01:18:35 [Speaker 2]
Yes.
01:18:35 [Speaker 2]
I agree.

01:18:36 [Speaker 3]
Which I thought was impossible.
01:18:37 [Speaker 3]
Like, I was like, oh, there's no way Tim Curry is gonna live up to, like, my how I remember this movie, but he was so incredible.

01:18:45 [Speaker 2]
I agree.

01:18:46 [Speaker 1]
His his ability to be so specific with his facial expressions, especially his lips when they're painting

01:18:52 [Speaker 3]
that way Oh, my.

01:18:53 [Speaker 1]
Is really impressive to me.

01:18:55 [Speaker 2]
Keiko, you said something about this in your interview for your article Mhmm.
01:19:01 [Speaker 2]
That Ben shared with me about how people will get trained to, like, act in a soap opera or whatnot.
01:19:08 [Speaker 2]
And it takes years to find your voice and your footing kind of actor.
01:19:12 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:19:12 [Speaker 2]
And I feel that this is just a person that has such a specificity in their voice so early.

01:19:20 [Speaker 2]
Like, it's like there are no bad habits or weird teaching or but he knows what It's horrible.
01:19:27 [Speaker 2]
It's such a specific singular, it's so good.

01:19:30 [Speaker 1]
He knows who he is, like Yeah.
01:19:32 [Speaker 1]
Through and through.

01:19:33 [Speaker 3]
You know, and it's it's funny.
01:19:34 [Speaker 3]
Like, I didn't realize how much my, not only, like, sexual awakening, but also I have, like, a when I when I was more of an actor, I I had a pretty good British accent.
01:19:46 [Speaker 3]
And I didn't realize how much of it was doing a Tim Curry

01:19:50 [Speaker 2]
Space to

01:19:50 [Speaker 1]
his nose.

01:19:51 [Speaker 3]
British accent, Rocky Horror Picture Show until I was watching this and I was like, oh, yeah.
01:19:55 [Speaker 3]
There's, like, extra.
01:19:56 [Speaker 3]
You know?

01:19:57 [Speaker 1]
Pretty nice.

01:19:58 [Speaker 2]
You know

01:19:58 [Speaker 1]
what I mean?

01:19:59 [Speaker 3]
Pretty nice.
01:19:59 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:20:00 [Speaker 3]
I'm not going to.
01:20:00 [Speaker 3]
But

01:20:00 [Speaker 2]
I did love Prove it.

01:20:02 [Speaker 3]
But I am curious about where his action is from because there's certain sounds like he does that sound almost Scottish.
01:20:07 [Speaker 3]
He'll go like you know, he's like, Dune.

01:20:09 [Speaker 1]
I don't know where Curry's from.

01:20:11 [Speaker 3]
He's Dune,

01:20:12 [Speaker 2]
is what

01:20:12 [Speaker 3]
he would say.

01:20:13 [Speaker 1]
Where is he from?

01:20:14 [Speaker 2]
I don't know.
01:20:15 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:20:15 [Speaker 2]
I'm not sure.
01:20:16 [Speaker 2]
Because All I can think of right now is He

01:20:18 [Speaker 1]
had a stroke and, like Yeah.

01:20:21 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:20:21 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:20:23 [Speaker 2]
Such a gifted actor in general.
01:20:25 [Speaker 2]
I his joker, no no offense to Jack Nicholson, I would have loved to have seen

01:20:30 [Speaker 1]
Oh.
01:20:31 [Speaker 1]
Tomoey.
01:20:31 [Speaker 1]
Apparently, he was in the series of the series of this.

01:20:35 [Speaker 2]
Oh, okay.
01:20:36 [Speaker 2]
Oh.

01:20:36 [Speaker 1]
Of Rocky Horror Picture Show.

01:20:37 [Speaker 2]
He

01:20:37 [Speaker 1]
played I think he played because he was in a wheelchair.

01:20:41 [Speaker 3]
Maybe doctor Scott?
01:20:41 [Speaker 3]
I think

01:20:42 [Speaker 1]
he played either doctor Scott or the professor.
01:20:44 [Speaker 1]
Like, the the narrator?
01:20:46 [Speaker 1]
I think after he played the narrator.

01:20:47 [Speaker 3]
Oh, that actually makes sense to me.

01:20:49 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:20:49 [Speaker 2]
That makes a lot of sense.
01:20:50 [Speaker 2]
That's phenomenal.
01:20:51 [Speaker 2]
Because, like, the you know, doctor Scott was a carryover in the in the original movie.
01:20:56 [Speaker 2]
It was a carryover from the stage play.

01:20:59 [Speaker 2]
Doctor Scott?
01:21:00 [Speaker 2]
Grace Scott.
01:21:00 [Speaker 2]
I love that it says that in this movie, by the way.

01:21:03 [Speaker 1]
Rocky, So I love that that sequence.
01:21:05 [Speaker 1]
It's just a replay of the same shot.

01:21:09 [Speaker 3]
I know.
01:21:09 [Speaker 3]
They don't even report it.
01:21:11 [Speaker 3]
No.

01:21:12 [Speaker 1]
Brad?
01:21:12 [Speaker 1]
Janet?
01:21:13 [Speaker 1]
Rocky.

01:21:14 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:21:15 [Speaker 3]
I was 18 just laughing my ass off.

01:21:16 [Speaker 2]
I was seeing that scene.
01:21:18 [Speaker 2]
I I was 74 laughing my ass off alone because I'm not embarrassed to laugh alone.
01:21:25 [Speaker 2]
But Frank Inverter doing sweet transvestite from transsexual Transylvania and breaking the fourth wall and the water toss, The level of confidence that

01:21:35 [Speaker 1]
caused All of his

01:21:36 [Speaker 2]
His performance

01:21:37 [Speaker 1]
is crazy.
01:21:38 [Speaker 1]
What Keiko's been doing all night is all the fourth wall camera walking.

01:21:45 [Speaker 3]
Tim Curry actually invented, like, the AI, camera.

01:21:49 [Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah.

01:21:49 [Speaker 3]
So he he trained them until This is basically

01:21:52 [Speaker 1]
documentary.
01:21:53 [Speaker 1]
So Yeah.

01:21:54 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
01:21:54 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.

01:21:54 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:21:54 [Speaker 3]
This performance It's after the Pantone one.

01:21:56 [Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah.
01:21:57 [Speaker 2]
I know that.
01:21:58 [Speaker 2]
This performance was fed into Skynet as well as all the colors.
01:22:02 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:22:03 [Speaker 2]
They're kinda sent into the lab, and Rocky is born.

01:22:07 [Speaker 1]
So here this is where, like, my story brain started to Yeah.
01:22:11 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:22:11 [Speaker 1]
Pick things apart, and I'm like, I'm just because

01:22:14 [Speaker 3]
for me, all makes logical sense still.
01:22:17 [Speaker 3]
So

01:22:17 [Speaker 1]
It does?

01:22:18 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:22:18 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:22:18 [Speaker 3]
I think we can help

01:22:19 [Speaker 2]
you here.
01:22:19 [Speaker 2]
Same.
01:22:20 [Speaker 2]
I I think same.

01:22:21 [Speaker 1]
I think my

01:22:22 [Speaker 2]
He has no brain.
01:22:22 [Speaker 2]
He's like Frankenstein.
01:22:24 [Speaker 2]
He's got a Sure.

01:22:25 [Speaker 3]
What's your question?
01:22:26 [Speaker 3]
What's your question?
01:22:26 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:22:26 [Speaker 3]
It's

01:22:27 [Speaker 2]
Gotta make him a man.

01:22:28 [Speaker 1]
It's my fault with a lot of stories where I'm just like, Brad and Janet, get the fuck out.
01:22:33 [Speaker 1]
You're not people are taking your clothes off.
01:22:36 [Speaker 1]
What do you

01:22:36 [Speaker 2]
But they're turned on by it.

01:22:38 [Speaker 3]
Once they're you're taking once they've taken your clothes off, you can't leave.
01:22:41 [Speaker 3]
And I think, actually wait.
01:22:42 [Speaker 3]
Have you seen that movie?
01:22:43 [Speaker 3]
Was it, like, Speak No Evil?

01:22:45 [Speaker 1]
Have I seen that movie?

01:22:46 [Speaker 2]
Wait.
01:22:47 [Speaker 2]
With is that with Benicio?

01:22:49 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:22:49 [Speaker 3]
Am I am I thinking of the right movie?
01:22:51 [Speaker 3]
There's one movie where it's, like, it was, like Aoki?
01:22:53 [Speaker 3]
Yes.
01:22:53 [Speaker 3]
James Mackle.

01:22:54 [Speaker 2]
I have

01:22:54 [Speaker 1]
not watched that yet.

01:22:55 [Speaker 3]
It's a remake of

01:22:56 [Speaker 2]
Oh, no.
01:22:56 [Speaker 2]
No.

01:22:56 [Speaker 3]
It's a remake of, like, a Swedish movie or something.
01:22:58 [Speaker 3]
I've seen both versions, actually.
01:23:00 [Speaker 3]
And the whole point of the movie is there are these really polite people who are on vacation with these, like, raucous other people, and they get invited to their place.
01:23:09 [Speaker 3]
And, like, there are all these opportunities for them to leave, and they keep kind of just out of politeness missing their opportunity to do that until they get in too far.
01:23:18 [Speaker 3]
And I feel like that's what this is.

01:23:20 [Speaker 3]
Like, these people are conservative people who are polite

01:23:23 [Speaker 2]
Sure.

01:23:23 [Speaker 3]
And they don't know how to say no.

01:23:25 [Speaker 1]
And they kinda wanna fuck.
01:23:27 [Speaker 1]
I I They

01:23:27 [Speaker 2]
don't wanna fuck.
01:23:28 [Speaker 2]
I think it's both.
01:23:29 [Speaker 2]
I think it's multi layered where they're turned on by this.
01:23:32 [Speaker 2]
There's a level that they're like, I don't feel like I'm in danger, but I feel like I might get, HJ.
01:23:37 [Speaker 2]
What is it?

01:23:39 [Speaker 3]
A hand jive.

01:23:40 [Speaker 2]
I might get a hand jive here.
01:23:41 [Speaker 2]
I might get a quick Yeah.

01:23:42 [Speaker 3]
A lot.

01:23:43 [Speaker 2]
I might get a quick bang here.

01:23:44 [Speaker 3]
This is the sound of a hand jive.
01:23:46 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:23:46 [Speaker 3]
Wait.
01:23:47 [Speaker 3]
One one thing I'd never noticed before, but I noticed on this watch was at the beginning when they first got there, Brad is, like, kind of into the dancing.
01:23:54 [Speaker 3]
Yes.

01:23:55 [Speaker 3]
Yes.
01:23:55 [Speaker 3]
He's, like, into the group and but then quickly, it switches.
01:23:58 [Speaker 3]
And he's like, I think we should go.
01:24:00 [Speaker 3]
And she's kind of like

01:24:01 [Speaker 1]
Well, and they say, like, Brad and the way he introduces himself.
01:24:04 [Speaker 1]
Himself.
01:24:05 [Speaker 1]
So Brad works for, like, Doge.
01:24:06 [Speaker 1]
Right?
01:24:06 [Speaker 1]
That's what Brad's job is?

01:24:07 [Speaker 1]
It's famous, like

01:24:09 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:24:09 [Speaker 2]
I believe so.
01:24:10 [Speaker 2]
Oh my god.

01:24:11 [Speaker 1]
So it's

01:24:11 [Speaker 2]
Equivalent of

01:24:12 [Speaker 1]
introduces himself.
01:24:13 [Speaker 1]
What's his last name?
01:24:14 [Speaker 1]
Brad.
01:24:15 [Speaker 1]
It's Powers.
01:24:16 [Speaker 1]
Brad Powers.

01:24:17 [Speaker 1]
Right?
01:24:18 [Speaker 1]
It's a very, like

01:24:19 [Speaker 2]
I should have that one.
01:24:20 [Speaker 2]
I think

01:24:20 [Speaker 1]
it's Brad Powers.
01:24:21 [Speaker 1]
It's a very powerful

01:24:22 [Speaker 2]
It's something like that.
01:24:23 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:24:23 [Speaker 2]
See

01:24:24 [Speaker 1]
and they say, like, Brad, you have any tattoos?
01:24:26 [Speaker 1]
He's like, certainly not.
01:24:28 [Speaker 1]
Right.
01:24:29 [Speaker 1]
They ask her, and she's like, well, you know and so we're seeing, oh, she is actually more interested in this counterculture Yeah.
01:24:35 [Speaker 1]
Than he actually is.

01:24:37 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:24:38 [Speaker 2]
I feel like during the song when Frank N Furter shows a level of interest in her, like, she I feel an awakening with her.
01:24:46 [Speaker 2]
Like, there's a

01:24:46 [Speaker 3]
She is so attracted to him.

01:24:48 [Speaker 2]
Physical thing in the performance that happens there that's really great.
01:24:52 [Speaker 2]
And Janet, like, joins in on the Make You a Man song.
01:24:56 [Speaker 2]
Like, she as you're saying, it's kinda flipped here where she's like, I'm gonna, like, sing and join it.
01:25:01 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:25:01 [Speaker 2]
Okay.

01:25:03 [Speaker 1]
So he sees his monster.
01:25:04 [Speaker 1]
He's like Frankenstein's monster, and he's just a fucking sex doll.

01:25:07 [Speaker 3]
I need to tell you how my friend Amy Escobar described Rocky when she

01:25:11 [Speaker 1]
saw this.
01:25:12 [Speaker 1]
Rocky.

01:25:12 [Speaker 3]
She described him as a himbo with a bowl cut.

01:25:16 [Speaker 2]
The haircut is an abomination.
01:25:19 [Speaker 2]
I mean, he is he's a he's Absolute himbo.
01:25:22 [Speaker 2]
He's he's like Adolf's,

01:25:25 [Speaker 1]
like, dream.
01:25:25 [Speaker 1]
Right?

01:25:26 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:25:27 [Speaker 2]
Sure.
01:25:27 [Speaker 2]
I could I had a

01:25:28 [Speaker 3]
teacher say that to me.
01:25:30 [Speaker 3]
Why does

01:25:30 [Speaker 2]
he say that to me?
01:25:31 [Speaker 2]
Because that's a that was in the one of the color things that he squirted into the tank, I guess, maybe.

01:25:36 [Speaker 1]
But Well, I like the

01:25:38 [Speaker 2]
I had a teacher say that to me in a class in eighth grade.
01:25:42 [Speaker 2]
Wait.
01:25:42 [Speaker 2]
What?
01:25:42 [Speaker 2]
The thing that Ben just said about, like, being Hitler's dream.
01:25:45 [Speaker 2]
Oh, no.

01:25:47 [Speaker 2]
I was in the eighth grade.
01:25:48 [Speaker 2]
The two the other kid that was referred to, his parents sued the school district.

01:25:53 [Speaker 3]
Oh, my God.
01:25:54 [Speaker 3]
That's horrible.

01:25:55 [Speaker 1]
Were you?

01:25:55 [Speaker 3]
Jesus Christ.

01:25:56 [Speaker 1]
Were you

01:25:57 [Speaker 2]
So now that you've tuned out, the four listeners that are still here.

01:26:00 [Speaker 3]
Oh my God.

01:26:01 [Speaker 1]
Were were you part of Doge?

01:26:02 [Speaker 2]
Is that what she was doing?

01:26:04 [Speaker 3]
Here's the here's the thing about the movie.
01:26:06 [Speaker 3]
Here Thanks

01:26:06 [Speaker 1]
for keeping us on track.
01:26:07 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:26:07 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:26:08 [Speaker 3]
Here's what I say.
01:26:09 [Speaker 3]
I don't care for Rocky, and he's, like, a teacher or a character.
01:26:14 [Speaker 3]
I don't care for Rocky.
01:26:15 [Speaker 3]
I don't care I don't care for Columbia.

01:26:17 [Speaker 1]
So I have a lot of questions about Columbia.

01:26:19 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:26:19 [Speaker 3]
I have no what is her job?
01:26:21 [Speaker 3]
Does she work there?

01:26:22 [Speaker 1]
That's what I mean.
01:26:23 [Speaker 1]
And, like, why is she so tied to Frank?
01:26:26 [Speaker 1]
Because this is around the time

01:26:28 [Speaker 2]
Rifaka, you loved her.

01:26:29 [Speaker 3]
We get.

01:26:30 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:26:30 [Speaker 1]
Rifaka Magenta, I get.
01:26:32 [Speaker 1]
He kidnapped her boyfriend?

01:26:35 [Speaker 2]
I thought she was a creation too.

01:26:37 [Speaker 1]
No.
01:26:38 [Speaker 1]
No.
01:26:38 [Speaker 1]
No.
01:26:38 [Speaker 1]
No.
01:26:38 [Speaker 1]
No.

01:26:39 [Speaker 1]
It does not seem like No.
01:26:41 [Speaker 1]
Because she has this whole history with Meatloaf, Eddie,

01:26:46 [Speaker 2]
who is

01:26:47 [Speaker 1]
not a creation.

01:26:48 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:26:48 [Speaker 3]
He's not.
01:26:48 [Speaker 3]
He's not.
01:26:49 [Speaker 3]
He's because doctor Scott's nephew.
01:26:51 [Speaker 3]
But how much is his

01:26:52 [Speaker 2]
own dog?
01:26:52 [Speaker 2]
Like, what is happening?
01:26:54 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:26:55 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:26:55 [Speaker 3]
But this is what I think.
01:26:56 [Speaker 3]
This is what I think.
01:26:57 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:26:57 [Speaker 3]
I think that we do know that the the thing that they said was that Eddie's half of his brain was taken and put into Rocky.

01:27:06 [Speaker 2]
Okay.

01:27:06 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:27:07 [Speaker 3]
So they're both half brained.
01:27:09 [Speaker 3]
I think that's what I like

01:27:10 [Speaker 1]
to call them.

01:27:10 [Speaker 4]
He took he yeah.
01:27:11 [Speaker 4]
He took half brained.

01:27:12 [Speaker 3]
And I think that Columbia still might be a creation, actually, despite that.
01:27:17 [Speaker 3]
I think that she is a creation and just, like, has been around longer, but, like, didn't fulfill the things that Frank N Furter wanted.
01:27:24 [Speaker 3]
But I do wish it was clearer what she's doing there or whether she's a creation or whether she there for work

01:27:32 [Speaker 1]
So okay.

01:27:32 [Speaker 3]
And what her salary is, whether she gets health insurance.

01:27:36 [Speaker 2]
What are the working conditions?
01:27:37 [Speaker 2]
I thought she said in a line of exposition where she's like, I loved you, like, and that's why Yes.
01:27:43 [Speaker 2]
She loved Frank N Furter's because she was a creation of his.

01:27:47 [Speaker 1]
I I I don't know if they say she's a creation.
01:27:48 [Speaker 1]
They they they say that she's loved him.
01:27:51 [Speaker 1]
But my question here is, is Frank N Furter the antagonist of this movie?

01:27:56 [Speaker 3]
That's the beauty of the movie, baby.

01:27:59 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:28:00 [Speaker 3]
It's it's like he he is the the antagonist that we, like, love.

01:28:04 [Speaker 1]
And what is his goal?

01:28:06 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:28:06 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:28:06 [Speaker 3]
That's that's let's let's let's let's do this one at a time.
01:28:09 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:28:10 [Speaker 3]
He is the antagonist until he becomes something in the end that we we, like, pity and and and it and that's beautiful.

01:28:18 [Speaker 3]
And I I think that that is actually, like, a beautiful arc.
01:28:21 [Speaker 3]
What does he want?
01:28:23 [Speaker 3]
You know, that, I ultimately it seems like I thought the whole point was that he was like, I don't wanna go back.
01:28:31 [Speaker 3]
I want to stay here and create a world in which, like

01:28:34 [Speaker 1]
Of fuck toys?

01:28:35 [Speaker 3]
Of fuck toys that, like, I can live however I want.
01:28:38 [Speaker 3]
But then the moment that the opportunity to go somewhere else comes

01:28:42 [Speaker 2]
it like It's like

01:28:42 [Speaker 3]
it's like, I'll go.
01:28:44 [Speaker 3]
I'll do fucking anything.
01:28:45 [Speaker 3]
You know?
01:28:45 [Speaker 3]
And, like, that always feels so strange to me.
01:28:48 [Speaker 3]
And,

01:28:49 [Speaker 1]
we see him kill Eddie on screen and, like, there's this at the beginning, we get the motorcycles, which I assume are, like, Eddie's posse.
01:28:57 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.
01:28:58 [Speaker 1]
What?
01:28:59 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:29:00 [Speaker 1]
What?

01:29:01 [Speaker 1]
I have question.
01:29:01 [Speaker 1]
I just I don't know what that is.
01:29:03 [Speaker 1]
I don't know I don't know what's happened.
01:29:04 [Speaker 1]
At this point in the movie, I just kinda, like, give over because it starts to feel like a handful of really awesome songs strung together with Yeah.
01:29:13 [Speaker 1]
Minimal plot.

01:29:13 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:29:13 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:29:14 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:29:14 [Speaker 3]
Mhmm.
01:29:14 [Speaker 3]
And do you think that okay.

01:29:15 [Speaker 3]
Eddie storyline is he we got a we got a lot of it post mortem and that he is was a bad kid.
01:29:23 [Speaker 3]
He joined a gang, got in with the wrong crowd at Frank Umferters

01:29:26 [Speaker 2]
Like Doge.

01:29:27 [Speaker 3]
Got his got his brain cut in half

01:29:30 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:29:30 [Speaker 3]
And then got even, like, more simple and and weird, but still with the same motorcycle gang.
01:29:36 [Speaker 3]
And and that that I don't I don't know if the motorcycle gang is, like, he needs more than that.

01:29:40 [Speaker 2]
I think it's just for the song.
01:29:41 [Speaker 2]
It's for the vibe of the song.
01:29:42 [Speaker 2]
He needs to

01:29:43 [Speaker 1]
kill Eddie because he's a bad person?
01:29:45 [Speaker 1]
Or he needs to kill Eddie because he's a threat for Columbia?

01:29:49 [Speaker 2]
Or a threat for Rocky or a threat in general?
01:29:51 [Speaker 2]
Because he's

01:29:51 [Speaker 3]
I thought it was because he seemed powerful at all.
01:29:54 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:29:55 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:29:55 [Speaker 2]
Half of his brain's been stolen.

01:29:56 [Speaker 1]
Because and Okay.
01:29:57 [Speaker 1]
So at this point, right, we we got Rocky's Rocky comes alive and we see him, like, lifting weights and dude's dude's muscly.

01:30:04 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:30:05 [Speaker 2]
And and Frank N Furter tricks Janet into sleeping with him, but she she's a willing participant.

01:30:13 [Speaker 3]
A 100%.

01:30:14 [Speaker 1]
So this is again your You

01:30:15 [Speaker 3]
don't care for a man with too many muscles.

01:30:17 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:30:18 [Speaker 2]
She's something like that.

01:30:19 [Speaker 1]
And, like, he kinda hates Janet.
01:30:22 [Speaker 1]
Oh, and also okay.

01:30:23 [Speaker 3]
Frank N Furter?

01:30:24 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:30:24 [Speaker 3]
I think Frank N Furter hate hates anyone who is a rival.

01:30:29 [Speaker 1]
Okay.
01:30:30 [Speaker 1]
There's also this constant and I guess this is closer ish to World War two.
01:30:35 [Speaker 1]
Well, it was definitely Woah.

01:30:36 [Speaker 3]
Woah.
01:30:36 [Speaker 3]
Woah.
01:30:36 [Speaker 3]
We're getting to World War two, baby.

01:30:38 [Speaker 1]
He said, well, you said Adolf's friend, Hitler's friend.
01:30:40 [Speaker 1]
Right?

01:30:40 [Speaker 2]
But,

01:30:42 [Speaker 1]
every time he said, like, this is Janet Weiss, she says Weiss.

01:30:46 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:30:47 [Speaker 2]
Correct.
01:30:47 [Speaker 2]
She corrects.

01:30:48 [Speaker 1]
Like doctor Van Scott, not doctor Scott.
01:30:51 [Speaker 1]
And I was like, this whole thing of, like, oh, this is why my grandfather always used to say the Krauts, the fucking Krauts.
01:30:57 [Speaker 1]
That was It's

01:30:58 [Speaker 2]
even the cabaret at a point has a feel to it that Yeah.

01:31:03 [Speaker 1]
There's just a it's like, oh, yeah.
01:31:05 [Speaker 1]
If you're German, you must be a Nazi.

01:31:07 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:31:08 [Speaker 2]
Well, so Interesting.
01:31:10 [Speaker 2]
I think what you're saying, like, carries some water.
01:31:12 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:31:12 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:31:13 [Speaker 3]
The that one part where he keeps going, I did.
01:31:17 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:31:18 [Speaker 1]
Well, because what?
01:31:18 [Speaker 1]
This is really, like, thirty years after the end of World War two, which is not that long.

01:31:24 [Speaker 2]
Right.
01:31:24 [Speaker 2]
Right.
01:31:24 [Speaker 2]
Not super long.
01:31:25 [Speaker 2]
A generation, essentially.
01:31:28 [Speaker 2]
Frank N Furter then tricking and fucking Brad.

01:31:31 [Speaker 2]
I think that's what it is is that Frank N Furter ultimately wants to be the desirable sexual object to everyone in their gravity.
01:31:41 [Speaker 2]
And so, you know, he they are able to get Brad to do the thing and Janet to do the thing and but not Rocky because there's not a chance to make him a man if we're going by the song, which I think tells a lot of the story as Keiko said.
01:31:56 [Speaker 2]
It's it's

01:31:56 [Speaker 1]
The song is so good.

01:31:58 [Speaker 2]
It is.

01:31:58 [Speaker 3]
It's oh, my god.
01:31:59 [Speaker 3]
I I have a a thing to say about the song.
01:32:02 [Speaker 3]
But but also, that is ultimately, like, something that I I will say is, like, really good about the script.
01:32:08 [Speaker 3]
When I was watching it back in the day, again, I was just always letting everything just wash over me or just having a good time.
01:32:12 [Speaker 3]
Like, this time, I was like, oh, there is a real story about someone who is, like, all he wants is to be desired by that one person, and he can get anyone else to wanna fuck him.

01:32:24 [Speaker 3]
But Rocky is just kinda not willing.
01:32:27 [Speaker 3]
And, like, that when you ask, like, why this why this story, why today, like, what is special about this day other than Rocky being, like, born that day, it's because Rocky doesn't want him.
01:32:39 [Speaker 3]
And that's what Interesting.
01:32:40 [Speaker 3]
That's what I think, like, breaks the story apart.

01:32:43 [Speaker 2]
I'm sorry to, like, start to talk over you.
01:32:45 [Speaker 2]
I know I've No.
01:32:45 [Speaker 2]
Know about that.
01:32:46 [Speaker 2]
I'm done.
01:32:47 [Speaker 2]
I'm the same thing.

01:32:48 [Speaker 2]
I feel at the end of the movie, when Frank N Furter has to go home, they are not wanting to do it, but willing to be like, okay.
01:32:59 [Speaker 2]
I have to go.
01:33:00 [Speaker 2]
This is gonna be the way that it is.
01:33:02 [Speaker 2]
And that they felt that they could never be accepted by anyone or loved by anyone, and they had to create the perfect love.
01:33:11 [Speaker 2]
And that perfect love also had to look a specific way and have a specific type of haircut.

01:33:18 [Speaker 1]
Cut.
01:33:19 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:33:19 [Speaker 1]
And only I can't even fuck if they have a bowl cut.

01:33:22 [Speaker 2]
The fact that that created perfect love that perfect love that was created is still a failure to me is, like, a crazy allegory for, like, the struggle of the artist and finding love through the art, etcetera.
01:33:37 [Speaker 2]
I I find the movie to be very calm like, have a lot of

01:33:40 [Speaker 3]
shit to say.
01:33:41 [Speaker 3]
I think

01:33:41 [Speaker 2]
it has a lot of shit to say.

01:33:43 [Speaker 1]
I think you're bringing up as great because I think if you think about this time, like, this is right after the nuclear family.

01:33:50 [Speaker 2]
Yes.
01:33:51 [Speaker 2]
Yes, Ben.

01:33:52 [Speaker 1]
It is very purposely kicking down the door of, like Sound

01:33:57 [Speaker 2]
of music.
01:33:58 [Speaker 2]
No.
01:33:59 [Speaker 2]
Thank churches.

01:33:59 [Speaker 1]
Like, it starts in a church to just be like, fuck this shit.
01:34:02 [Speaker 1]
This is boring.

01:34:03 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:34:03 [Speaker 2]
American Gothic?
01:34:04 [Speaker 2]
No.
01:34:05 [Speaker 2]
Thanks.

01:34:05 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:34:06 [Speaker 1]
Why do you want this?
01:34:07 [Speaker 1]
Like, look at what you can possibly have.
01:34:09 [Speaker 1]
The human condition is capable of so much.
01:34:12 [Speaker 1]
Fuck whoever you want.

01:34:13 [Speaker 1]
It doesn't matter.

01:34:13 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:34:14 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:34:14 [Speaker 2]
This is a perfect transition right here where Janet breaks down from catching Brad with Frank N Furter and does touch me creature of the night and hooks up with Rocky.

01:34:23 [Speaker 1]
I just love that.
01:34:24 [Speaker 1]
She just sees Brad smoking a cigarette with Frankincer on the moon.
01:34:28 [Speaker 1]
Oh, they fucked.

01:34:29 [Speaker 2]
You know.
01:34:29 [Speaker 2]
You know.
01:34:30 [Speaker 2]
The posture says

01:34:31 [Speaker 3]
it all.
01:34:32 [Speaker 3]
Did.

01:34:32 [Speaker 2]
Oh, I forgot to mention Yes.
01:34:34 [Speaker 2]
Real quick.
01:34:35 [Speaker 2]
Yes, Kanko.

01:34:36 [Speaker 1]
There's a line in this that I loved, and I we skipped it.
01:34:38 [Speaker 1]
But when they're like, what is this place?
01:34:40 [Speaker 1]
And he goes, I don't know.
01:34:40 [Speaker 1]
A hunting lodge for rich weirdos.

01:34:43 [Speaker 2]
That is a good line.

01:34:44 [Speaker 1]
I was like, oh, that's the world we live in.
01:34:46 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:34:47 [Speaker 2]
Mhmm.
01:34:47 [Speaker 2]
Well, doctor Scott I'm sorry.
01:34:49 [Speaker 2]
You were saying?

01:34:50 [Speaker 1]
No.
01:34:50 [Speaker 1]
Hunting Lodge for rich rich weirdos is all at the same.

01:34:53 [Speaker 2]
Sorry.
01:34:54 [Speaker 2]
I I'm talking over to you.
01:34:55 [Speaker 2]
I'm trying to finish your sandwiches.
01:34:57 [Speaker 2]
Big Mac.
01:34:58 [Speaker 2]
Doctor Scott shows up, and I'm like, my immediate thought is this guy's a fucking gold bricker, dude.

01:35:04 [Speaker 2]
This guy fucking walks.
01:35:05 [Speaker 2]
Walk.

01:35:06 [Speaker 1]
This guy can fucking walk.
01:35:07 [Speaker 1]
Skips?

01:35:08 [Speaker 3]
I'm saying Did we

01:35:09 [Speaker 1]
skip Rocky and Janet Fucking?

01:35:11 [Speaker 2]
I just touched the surface.
01:35:13 [Speaker 2]
Like, we saw

01:35:14 [Speaker 1]
him do it.
01:35:15 [Speaker 1]
My that literally was Touch

01:35:16 [Speaker 3]
Touch Touch Me.

01:35:17 [Speaker 1]
That literally is a very important moment in my life.
01:35:20 [Speaker 1]
And it's still it's still, like, watching it today, I had goosebumps.

01:35:25 [Speaker 3]
And and I actually think one of the reasons why that song is so good is because Susan Sarandon actually isn't a great singer.

01:35:33 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:35:33 [Speaker 3]
But she's a Fair.
01:35:34 [Speaker 3]
So so it feels like raw.
01:35:37 [Speaker 3]
It feels real in a way because it's not about, like, performing a song prettily.
01:35:42 [Speaker 3]
It's actually about just, like, it's she's an actor.

01:35:45 [Speaker 1]
You know?
01:35:46 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:35:46 [Speaker 1]
And she's finally getting to this point where she's like, oh, this is the feeling of desire.

01:35:51 [Speaker 3]
Yes.
01:35:51 [Speaker 3]
Yes.

01:35:52 [Speaker 1]
Like, this is the

01:35:53 [Speaker 2]
feeling.
01:35:53 [Speaker 2]
It's all about feel.

01:35:54 [Speaker 1]
What does it mean in this moment to just, like, accept pleasure and desire and, like, go for it?
01:36:00 [Speaker 1]
And, like, even the sequences of all of the characters over her, like, creature of the night, like, looking like attacking her, It's just, like, fascinating to me because I'm like, oh, she's not just fucking Rocky.
01:36:10 [Speaker 1]
She's, like, taking everything in because she wants to.
01:36:13 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.
01:36:14 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:36:14 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:36:14 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:36:14 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:36:14 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:36:14 [Speaker 3]
Her eyes have been open.

01:36:16 [Speaker 1]
And she's never been able to do that before because, like, again, we established at the beginning, it's all about, like, oh, she has to get married

01:36:21 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:36:21 [Speaker 1]
And then they can fuck.
01:36:22 [Speaker 1]
She

01:36:23 [Speaker 3]
And and they're doing it in the tent in the tank, which is I just wanna we mentioned this earlier when, like, Frank and Ferd is putting all the liquids in the in the rainbow in the tank.
01:36:32 [Speaker 3]
So much liquid is going into that tank when Rocky comes out.
01:36:34 [Speaker 3]
Dry.
01:36:35 [Speaker 3]
Liquid.
01:36:35 [Speaker 3]
Dry as hell.

01:36:36 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:36:37 [Speaker 2]
They even have to moisten him right after.
01:36:39 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:36:39 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:36:39 [Speaker 1]
But a rainbow out painting, like

01:36:41 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:36:41 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:36:41 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:36:42 [Speaker 1]
I don't know if rainbow meant gay back

01:36:43 [Speaker 2]
then, but I really like that that is clearly something filled with liquid in, like, a model, and then later the effect of that tank turning rainbow is actually, like, I actually really like it.
01:36:53 [Speaker 2]
I think

01:36:54 [Speaker 3]
it's cool.
01:36:54 [Speaker 3]
I like it.

01:36:55 [Speaker 2]
It's cool fun things of that very as we said it, like, almost, like, do it yourself, like, theater kid.

01:37:01 [Speaker 1]
But we didn't mention that riffraff and, the other one.

01:37:04 [Speaker 3]
Majesha took that.

01:37:05 [Speaker 1]
They, like, are actively trying to

01:37:08 [Speaker 3]
Fuck with Rocky.
01:37:09 [Speaker 3]
Fuck with Rocky.
01:37:10 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:37:10 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:37:11 [Speaker 2]
To to fuck with Frank N Furter.

01:37:14 [Speaker 1]
Because they wanna leave?

01:37:15 [Speaker 3]
I actually don't know if it's because they wanna fuck with Frank N Furter.
01:37:18 [Speaker 3]
I always thought it was because they were jealous that Frank N Furter loved Rocky so much, personally.

01:37:23 [Speaker 1]
It seems like they have a whole they hold a lot of power, but Frank N Furter has this tattoo as his boss, and they seem to do everything to him.

01:37:29 [Speaker 3]
The the boss tattoo fades in the wall.

01:37:32 [Speaker 2]
It does.
01:37:32 [Speaker 2]
It does.
01:37:33 [Speaker 2]
Cool.

01:37:33 [Speaker 3]
I didn't notice that before.
01:37:34 [Speaker 3]
Sorry.

01:37:35 [Speaker 2]
It does fade.
01:37:35 [Speaker 2]
Well, it's fun that this little tiny piece of exposition where riffraff, I think it is, is, you know, this earthling, this person where, like, they kind of give away where it's, like, hey.
01:37:47 [Speaker 2]
These people that are, like, not repressed and wanna, like, you know, have this animal attraction and animal physicality like Janet wants and gets with Rocky that these people, like, must be, like, alien.
01:38:00 [Speaker 2]
They can't, like, they can't even be of this earth.
01:38:02 [Speaker 2]
They're so Right.

01:38:03 [Speaker 2]
Sexually charged.

01:38:04 [Speaker 1]
Is this is this movie really good?

01:38:06 [Speaker 3]
Alright.
01:38:08 [Speaker 3]
I feel like I'm really getting really torn on the more we talk about it, I'm I was like, we're making some really good points.

01:38:13 [Speaker 2]
I really I really agree with that.

01:38:15 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:38:15 [Speaker 3]
And just to say structurally as a writer as as a writer,

01:38:19 [Speaker 2]
I just

01:38:19 [Speaker 3]
have to say Please.
01:38:20 [Speaker 3]
We're getting into you know, we got into we got into we got into our break you know, we get into the castle, and then we're, like, coming the fun and games section.
01:38:28 [Speaker 3]
And then midpoint, doctor Scott shows up.
01:38:31 [Speaker 3]
And then new character and then suddenly we have to deal with the consequences.
01:38:35 [Speaker 3]
Like, suddenly, Brad sees Janet having fuck.

01:38:38 [Speaker 1]
Rocky.

01:38:38 [Speaker 3]
You know, like, every and, like, suddenly we're dealing with the consequences of consequences of Doctor Scott.
01:38:42 [Speaker 3]
That's like a real that's surreal script structure.

01:38:46 [Speaker 1]
Oh, jeez.
01:38:46 [Speaker 1]
Rocky.
01:38:48 [Speaker 1]
Doctor Scott.

01:38:48 [Speaker 2]
It's just

01:38:49 [Speaker 1]
it's just so great.
01:38:50 [Speaker 1]
It just keeps going.

01:38:51 [Speaker 2]
Should we try to do that?
01:38:53 [Speaker 2]
I just did.

01:38:54 [Speaker 1]
I just did it.

01:38:54 [Speaker 2]
Oh, so should we do it +1 23123?

01:38:58 [Speaker 1]
It goes Brad, Janet.

01:39:01 [Speaker 2]
Janet.

01:39:03 [Speaker 1]
Doctor Scott.
01:39:04 [Speaker 1]
No.
01:39:04 [Speaker 1]
That's not It is No.
01:39:05 [Speaker 1]
It's fuck it.
01:39:05 [Speaker 1]
Like, keep going.

01:39:06 [Speaker 2]
It is inarguably the funniest part of the movie, though, for me.

01:39:09 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:39:10 [Speaker 3]
And the hottest outfit is in the same scene is when Frank Umter is wearing the sexy outfit from earlier and then wearing, like, a cool leather jacket over it with, like, the other one.
01:39:20 [Speaker 3]
It's the coolest outfit.
01:39:22 [Speaker 3]
All over.
01:39:23 [Speaker 3]
It's a very cool costume piece.

01:39:25 [Speaker 1]
It's so funny because I in my entire time of watching this, Frankenfurter has never been very attractive to me.
01:39:33 [Speaker 1]
Janet obviously is stellar.
01:39:35 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.
01:39:35 [Speaker 1]
And then, like, Brad and Rocky are obviously Oh,

01:39:39 [Speaker 3]
interesting.

01:39:40 [Speaker 1]
Like, stunning Brad, to a degree, especially at the end when his, like, weird dance moves come out.

01:39:46 [Speaker 2]
Mhmm.
01:39:46 [Speaker 2]
I'm

01:39:46 [Speaker 1]
like, this guy's fucking weird.
01:39:48 [Speaker 1]
I like this.
01:39:49 [Speaker 1]
I don't know.
01:39:49 [Speaker 1]
Frank N Furter has never done it for me.

01:39:51 [Speaker 3]
Frank N Furter is the sexiest one

01:39:54 [Speaker 2]
to me.
01:39:54 [Speaker 2]
Frank N Furter is the one that stuck out in my mind more than anyone else, I think, even more than Janet.
01:40:01 [Speaker 2]
Like, that that character embodies this movie, I think.

01:40:04 [Speaker 1]
And also Columbia is also pretty hot.

01:40:06 [Speaker 3]
I don't like Columbia, but when Columbia is wearing there's two Columbia nipple moments.
01:40:12 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:40:12 [Speaker 3]
One is Columbia with the nipples at the end, but also there's a moment where Columbia is wearing pajamas where they have, like, little random

01:40:19 [Speaker 1]
balls in them.
01:40:19 [Speaker 1]
Touch because that's when they're singing touch me.
01:40:21 [Speaker 1]
Right?

01:40:21 [Speaker 2]
And and

01:40:21 [Speaker 3]
at one point though, she, like, pulls down her shirt, and it has holes in random parts.
01:40:24 [Speaker 3]
And she pulls down her shirt just so one nipple pops out of a little hole.
01:40:27 [Speaker 3]
And I was like, that actress is such a fucking freak.

01:40:31 [Speaker 2]
Just a quick little quick bite.

01:40:33 [Speaker 3]
Down and just so her one nipple would pop out, and then she, like, pulled it back.
01:40:37 [Speaker 3]
Wait.
01:40:38 [Speaker 3]
What a psycho.
01:40:39 [Speaker 3]
Hey, bud.
01:40:40 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:40:41 [Speaker 2]
What is

01:40:41 [Speaker 1]
it with you with bringing us porn movies?

01:40:43 [Speaker 3]
You know, I think I just wanna give the people what they want.

01:40:46 [Speaker 2]
You should be able to have a little porn in your musical.

01:40:49 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:40:49 [Speaker 3]
We should have a little porn over.

01:40:52 [Speaker 2]
I like Meat Loaf in this movie.
01:40:56 [Speaker 2]
I think I like Meat Loaf in general as an actor and them going through the Eddie song and Eddie being the in the coffin under the table, like, what's left of him.
01:41:06 [Speaker 2]
I love that.

01:41:07 [Speaker 1]
That's rather a tender subject.
01:41:09 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:41:10 [Speaker 3]
Oh, it's so great.
01:41:11 [Speaker 3]
For me, the biggest laugh out loud moment and is in that scene, and it's just when we first we first cut to it.
01:41:18 [Speaker 3]
And then I don't remember what dialogue is happening.
01:41:20 [Speaker 3]
And then suddenly, Frank and Ferder takes out the electric carver, and we just listen to the carver Yes.
01:41:26 [Speaker 3]
As we're carving through.

01:41:27 [Speaker 3]
And and it's it made me laugh so hard.
01:41:31 [Speaker 3]
Like a threat.
01:41:32 [Speaker 3]
Like, the heinous It's like the the least threatening, like That's great.
01:41:36 [Speaker 3]
Anything I've ever seen.

01:41:38 [Speaker 1]
Stop.
01:41:39 [Speaker 1]
He he won't let he won't let Rocky drink wine for some reason?

01:41:42 [Speaker 3]
Oh, yeah.
01:41:43 [Speaker 3]
Oh, he's a baby.

01:41:44 [Speaker 1]
Oh, because he wants his body to be felt.

01:41:46 [Speaker 2]
Pure.
01:41:46 [Speaker 2]
Well and, yeah, he's pure.
01:41:48 [Speaker 2]
He's a pure baby.
01:41:49 [Speaker 2]
He's not a man yet.
01:41:50 [Speaker 2]
He hasn't

01:41:51 [Speaker 3]
been made a man.
01:41:51 [Speaker 3]
That was one of the things that you would yell at the Rocky Horror Show when they go like, in just, like, seven days and six

01:41:58 [Speaker 4]
long nights.

01:41:59 [Speaker 3]
So I can't you know?

01:42:00 [Speaker 1]
Story.
01:42:00 [Speaker 1]
I've never seen this in the theater with anybody.

01:42:03 [Speaker 2]
Oh.
01:42:03 [Speaker 2]
It's really fun.

01:42:04 [Speaker 3]
Oh my god.
01:42:04 [Speaker 3]
We god.
01:42:05 [Speaker 3]
We should go.

01:42:06 [Speaker 1]
Do they still do?

01:42:07 [Speaker 3]
It's the longest running theater, but they must.
01:42:10 [Speaker 3]
They're in the left theater that does it somewhere.

01:42:12 [Speaker 2]
I think Hollywood Forever does it occasionally.

01:42:15 [Speaker 1]
I don't know.
01:42:15 [Speaker 1]
My one of my best friends in high school, his dad used to go do it, and he'd come home late at night wearing lingerie.

01:42:21 [Speaker 2]
That's great.

01:42:22 [Speaker 3]
I love that.

01:42:23 [Speaker 1]
But I never I've never been, and I would love to go.
01:42:25 [Speaker 1]
Because I know there's a very common things that people yell in between things or, like, get up and dance and sing.
01:42:32 [Speaker 1]
I think, like, at a certain point in this movie, I started to feel I I think it's around this point

01:42:37 [Speaker 3]
Mhmm.

01:42:37 [Speaker 1]
Where I was like, I don't know what this movie is trying to say anymore.

01:42:44 [Speaker 3]
I agree with you.
01:42:45 [Speaker 3]
Because I will say, like, as much as I love how gay this movie is, it's also I I feel like this might be a thing where like, I don't love the people that are like, actually, I find it really problematic.
01:42:57 [Speaker 3]
But but but I just wanna say, like, there is something about the movie that the queer people are predatory, and and that is something that I have

01:43:05 [Speaker 2]
Right.

01:43:05 [Speaker 3]
My brain.

01:43:06 [Speaker 1]
So so one of the things I wrote because I was like, what is this movie saying?
01:43:10 [Speaker 1]
Sexual freedom, but, like, sometimes rape question mark?
01:43:13 [Speaker 1]
Like, what exact and I again, I had to come back to, like, the seventies and, like, obviously, being, like, outrightly gay was, like, not a thing really.
01:43:22 [Speaker 1]
Right?
01:43:23 [Speaker 1]
And, like, the eighties kinda made that more of a thing, but people were also dying.

01:43:27 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:43:27 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:43:28 [Speaker 1]
Like so I get, like, the idea of it being normalized through this.
01:43:32 [Speaker 1]
But then, like, sexual freedom has to be, like, unlocked through, like, force in a way.
01:43:40 [Speaker 1]
I don't know.

01:43:40 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:43:41 [Speaker 1]
And it that might be a contemporary look at it.

01:43:43 [Speaker 3]
I will say in both scenes where Frank N Furter seduces the couple, the

01:43:48 [Speaker 1]
the They do consent.

01:43:50 [Speaker 2]
They won't.

01:43:50 [Speaker 3]
Sneaks in, which is not cool.
01:43:52 [Speaker 3]
But they do both say, well, just don't tell Brad.
01:43:54 [Speaker 3]
Well, just don't tell Janet.
01:43:56 [Speaker 3]
You know?
01:43:56 [Speaker 3]
And so there is a, like, the it's it's interesting that they they do make it really clear that they, like, are into it.

01:44:03 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:44:04 [Speaker 3]
You know?
01:44:04 [Speaker 3]
They wanna make sure that it's, like, nonconsensual.

01:44:07 [Speaker 1]
So does Brad get Brad gets fucked in the butt?

01:44:10 [Speaker 3]
No.
01:44:10 [Speaker 3]
Brad this it gets stopped before.
01:44:12 [Speaker 3]
Right?
01:44:13 [Speaker 3]
Doesn't it fall?

01:44:14 [Speaker 2]
I think Frank N Furter gives him a BJ, a blow jive.

01:44:20 [Speaker 3]
A bland a bland jive.

01:44:21 [Speaker 2]
I think he gives him

01:44:22 [Speaker 1]
a blow jive.
01:44:23 [Speaker 1]
The bland jive.

01:44:24 [Speaker 2]
I'm pretty sure.
01:44:24 [Speaker 2]
Well, I think the the thing that this movie is mostly saying and to both of y'all's point where it's like there's definitely a level of there's so much recognition by Frank N Furter and everybody there that Brad and Janet are super on board with we wanna get through our repression and this is the people that we are, But there is a level of how problematic it is that it's like, look.
01:44:52 [Speaker 2]
I know you might not wanna fuck, but, like, fucking is really cool.
01:44:56 [Speaker 2]
You're really gonna like it.
01:44:57 [Speaker 2]
Once we fuck, you'll get it.

01:44:59 [Speaker 2]
And, like, just you'll you'll get it.
01:45:01 [Speaker 2]
You'll get it.
01:45:02 [Speaker 2]
Like, there is a level of that that I feel like floats at times.

01:45:06 [Speaker 3]
And I and I I will say though that, like, them to bra to to Ben's point I just got your bad.
01:45:13 [Speaker 3]
To Ben's point, like Pardon?
01:45:15 [Speaker 3]
They don't leave.
01:45:16 [Speaker 3]
Like, even when they start to even when it gets crazy, they actually decide to sleep there that night and then separately.
01:45:23 [Speaker 3]
And that's actually But

01:45:24 [Speaker 1]
is that, like, a very It says a lot.
01:45:26 [Speaker 1]
At the time.

01:45:27 [Speaker 3]
Maybe.
01:45:28 [Speaker 3]
But, also, that's that's one of those moments where it's like, if you're someone that's like, oh my god.
01:45:32 [Speaker 3]
These sexually repressed people.
01:45:35 [Speaker 3]
God.
01:45:35 [Speaker 3]
They they they're so, like, sterile, you know?

01:45:38 [Speaker 1]
Well, I mean, again, at the beginning, like, they don't get to have sex till after marriage.
01:45:42 [Speaker 1]
And Yeah.
01:45:43 [Speaker 1]
Magenta and Columbia say, like, she hasn't fucked until she well and that was confusing to me because, like, didn't she just get fucked by Frank N Furter and then she fucked Rocky?
01:45:52 [Speaker 1]
Because they were like, she hasn't Right.
01:45:53 [Speaker 1]
And they're like, yeah.

01:45:54 [Speaker 1]
And then she foxed Rocky.
01:45:56 [Speaker 1]
I'm like, wait.
01:45:57 [Speaker 1]
What happened with Frank and Ferda?

01:45:58 [Speaker 3]
I think that she meant, like, up until that night she had her.

01:46:02 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:46:02 [Speaker 2]
Up until that night she hadn't.

01:46:04 [Speaker 3]
But, like, Frank and Ferda got in, and now she's been unlocked.

01:46:07 [Speaker 1]
And, yeah, Rocky's got that eight pack.
01:46:10 [Speaker 1]
In that v.

01:46:11 [Speaker 3]
Full cut.
01:46:11 [Speaker 3]
But I don't

01:46:12 [Speaker 1]
I don't like men with muscles.

01:46:15 [Speaker 3]
He's so stupid.

01:46:16 [Speaker 2]
He's so dumb that he cuts his own hair.

01:46:19 [Speaker 1]
I do think I got that body, though.
01:46:20 [Speaker 1]
Right?
01:46:21 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.

01:46:22 [Speaker 2]
I'm a frugal man.
01:46:23 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:46:23 [Speaker 2]
I cut my own hair.

01:46:25 [Speaker 1]
Thank you.

01:46:26 [Speaker 2]
The movie Yeah.
01:46:27 [Speaker 2]
I think so.

01:46:27 [Speaker 3]
I mean, I can't tell because, like, you're not wearing the outfit, but, like, I assume.

01:46:31 [Speaker 1]
I'm not wearing the gold undies.
01:46:32 [Speaker 1]
The

01:46:33 [Speaker 2]
movie never they I I don't feel like they ever feel like they're in physical danger really until, like, the Medusa machine thing happens, and they're so repressed and they're so turned on and interested in what's happening.
01:46:46 [Speaker 2]
I'm still kinda, like, buying into as they do the wise up Janet Weiss song.
01:46:51 [Speaker 2]
And until the people getting turned into statues, I'm still like, okay.

01:46:58 [Speaker 1]
And when she's scared, she runs around the table past Brad to Rocky.

01:47:03 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:47:03 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:47:04 [Speaker 1]
And, like, Brad doesn't seem phased by it?

01:47:07 [Speaker 3]
I know.
01:47:07 [Speaker 3]
Not at all.
01:47:08 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:47:08 [Speaker 3]
They become like poly weirdly

01:47:10 [Speaker 2]
in doing this anyway.
01:47:12 [Speaker 2]
Yes.
01:47:12 [Speaker 2]
I think

01:47:12 [Speaker 3]
because, like, there's another mess with

01:47:14 [Speaker 1]
doctor Scott at that point.

01:47:15 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:47:16 [Speaker 3]
And there's a point another point where Janet, like, clings to Rocky, and he, like, hugs her.
01:47:21 [Speaker 3]
But then in the end of the movie, it is important that, like, as Frankfurter is dying, Rocky goes to her.

01:47:28 [Speaker 1]
In the dance sequence in the pool when it feels like it's just an orgy, basically, what's happening.
01:47:33 [Speaker 1]
It's

01:47:34 [Speaker 2]
like Caligula.

01:47:35 [Speaker 1]
Brad Brad is like there's a point with, like, a shot where Brad is, like, looking at Rocky's package in a

01:47:41 [Speaker 3]
Oh, yeah.
01:47:41 [Speaker 3]
Yes.
01:47:42 [Speaker 3]
Brad.
01:47:42 [Speaker 3]
I mean, Brad has also been awakened to bisexuality for sure.

01:47:46 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:47:46 [Speaker 1]
100%.
01:47:47 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

01:47:48 [Speaker 2]
No question.

01:47:49 [Speaker 1]
But it's just interesting to me that, like, it's a nonverbal thing that happens between them when they're just like, oh, we're good with fucking whoever we want and still loving each other.

01:47:59 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:47:59 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:48:00 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:48:00 [Speaker 3]
As I was watching that poll scene, I was like, oh, this is when when we're we're when, like, conservatives are like, this is the future that liberals are on.

01:48:08 [Speaker 2]
Was saying.
01:48:09 [Speaker 2]
I was like, this is when I

01:48:11 [Speaker 3]
was watching that.
01:48:12 [Speaker 3]
And I was like, kinda, I guess.

01:48:15 [Speaker 1]
I was like, the whole time I was watching this movie, I was like, this is what Republicans are afraid of.

01:48:19 [Speaker 2]
Come for the terrified.

01:48:21 [Speaker 3]
They're terrified.

01:48:22 [Speaker 2]
They're terrified they're gonna get turned into statues.

01:48:24 [Speaker 1]
They're terrified that they're gonna actually enjoy sex.

01:48:27 [Speaker 3]
I know.

01:48:27 [Speaker 2]
No.
01:48:27 [Speaker 2]
No.
01:48:28 [Speaker 2]
And tell other people that they enjoy it too.
01:48:30 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:48:30 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:48:31 [Speaker 2]
That the RKO thing, like, the RKO picture fucker.

01:48:44 [Speaker 1]
This this guy can dance.

01:48:45 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:48:46 [Speaker 3]
So act three is where the show gets crazy.
01:48:51 [Speaker 3]
And and it's and it's partially I really respect it, actually, because act three as it exists, it's it's just a show.

01:49:00 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:49:00 [Speaker 3]
And and so they were like, we're not gonna pretend like this wasn't a stage show one time.
01:49:05 [Speaker 3]
We have to it has to be a stage show.
01:49:07 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:49:08 [Speaker 3]
In this version, in the movie, I don't totally understand.
01:49:12 [Speaker 3]
I I I I think that Frank and Fer just loves to perform, And it's like, it doesn't matter that there are people there because sometimes he imagines that there's a full audience thing.

01:49:21 [Speaker 1]
But were the perform were Brad were they brainwashed?
01:49:24 [Speaker 1]
Like, how did they No.

01:49:25 [Speaker 3]
That's confusing because they are Medusas, and then they're demeducid, but they do seem, like, under control.

01:49:31 [Speaker 1]
They start at they start right on beat.

01:49:33 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:49:33 [Speaker 2]
They're into it.

01:49:34 [Speaker 3]
I was like, and I only can.
01:49:37 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:49:38 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:49:38 [Speaker 1]
I mean, like, the show I mean, it's great.
01:49:39 [Speaker 1]
It's entertaining as fuck.
01:49:41 [Speaker 1]
And then this whole time, we're made to believe that Magenta and Riff Raff were the ones who were in charge?

01:49:49 [Speaker 2]
They were, like, watching.

01:49:51 [Speaker 3]
Were they always in charge, though?
01:49:53 [Speaker 3]
Or I I was under the impression that they gained power while Frank N Furter was, like, going about his business, like, with other shit.
01:50:01 [Speaker 3]
Magenta and Refraf, like, were in got in contact with home base and were and now are in charge.
01:50:07 [Speaker 3]
And they're like and because he says something like, you were I don't remember what the lines were.
01:50:12 [Speaker 3]
Now you are my prisoner.

01:50:14 [Speaker 3]
Meaning, like, he wasn't before.

01:50:16 [Speaker 1]
So they're they're they're doing a, Treasure Island.
01:50:19 [Speaker 1]
They're they're taking over the ship.

01:50:21 [Speaker 3]
But It's a classic Muppet Treasure Island.

01:50:23 [Speaker 2]
Sorry.
01:50:23 [Speaker 2]
The in this going home song

01:50:26 [Speaker 1]
It's a great song.

01:50:27 [Speaker 2]
It is a great song.
01:50:29 [Speaker 2]
The magenta yawn though for me is, like, the, like, yeah.
01:50:32 [Speaker 2]
I'm also a little bit, like, I'm wanting to get to the end a little.
01:50:36 [Speaker 2]
The the movie it does that thing where I'm a little tired.

01:50:40 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:50:41 [Speaker 1]
And Especially when, like, they kill they they, like, use their laser and kill Frankenfurter, and there's this whole, like, still there's still, like, I was, like, oh, okay.
01:50:50 [Speaker 1]
Come on, guys.

01:50:51 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:50:51 [Speaker 2]
Let's keep going.

01:50:52 [Speaker 1]
Let's get fame.
01:50:53 [Speaker 1]
Let's go.
01:50:53 [Speaker 1]
Let's fucking go.
01:50:54 [Speaker 1]
Like, what

01:50:55 [Speaker 2]
are we doing?
01:50:55 [Speaker 2]
Well, I like that it seems like there is an allegory where with Frank N Furter, there's, like, there's a death of an artist.
01:51:03 [Speaker 2]
Like, being revered in the pain of the performance artist, actor, singer, dancer, comedian, whatever.
01:51:08 [Speaker 2]
And having to literally make this, this perfect love and that you feel like you're from another planet and you just like, you're kind of released from this coil.
01:51:18 [Speaker 2]
But I I do like the how it turns into this King Kong, Faye Ray, very little literal RKO picture kind of thing after the anti matter blaster from riffraff.

01:51:30 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

01:51:31 [Speaker 1]
From American Gothic, which also looks like Yep.
01:51:33 [Speaker 1]
A Pickfork.
01:51:35 [Speaker 1]
Pitchfork.
01:51:36 [Speaker 1]
What did I say?

01:51:36 [Speaker 3]
Pick.
01:51:37 [Speaker 3]
Pickfork.
01:51:38 [Speaker 3]
And then you just stopped.
01:51:39 [Speaker 3]
Muppet Island.
01:51:40 [Speaker 3]
Pickfork.

01:51:40 [Speaker 1]
Muppet Island brought to you by Quibi.

01:51:43 [Speaker 2]
Story Mike White.
01:51:44 [Speaker 2]
Michael White.

01:51:45 [Speaker 3]
I think what's so hard about it I think what's so hard about it feeling slow at the end is that just, like, in general, when when something starts so fast and fun and entertaining, even if it gets slow in the middle, it usually picks up at the end.
01:52:00 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:52:01 [Speaker 3]
And this one, like, it's like no climax.
01:52:03 [Speaker 3]
It starts really energetic.
01:52:04 [Speaker 3]
It gets crazier and, like, more fun, and then it kind of, like it actually starts a downward slope Yeah.

01:52:10 [Speaker 3]
Which in a way, I will say the ballad at the end is beautiful.

01:52:14 [Speaker 1]
What's the climax?

01:52:15 [Speaker 2]
I'm sad about Frank N Furter dying after the, like, I'm a struggling, you know, artist.

01:52:21 [Speaker 1]
But I guess

01:52:22 [Speaker 3]
Well, the climax I would say is when Magenta and Riff Raff come out, they have guns.
01:52:27 [Speaker 3]
They're like, you know, we're the the ship is coming.
01:52:30 [Speaker 3]
Everything everything you think is what's happening has is different.
01:52:33 [Speaker 3]
I'm in charge now.
01:52:34 [Speaker 3]
You're my now my prisoner.

01:52:35 [Speaker 1]
I'm the captain now.

01:52:36 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:52:37 [Speaker 3]
Like, you're coming with me.

01:52:38 [Speaker 1]
But I okay.
01:52:39 [Speaker 1]
So

01:52:39 [Speaker 2]
Put down my sesame cake.

01:52:41 [Speaker 1]
Act three is also where I started because,

01:52:43 [Speaker 3]
like Not Paul loudly yawning into

01:52:46 [Speaker 2]
the bag.
01:52:46 [Speaker 2]
Magenta ing.

01:52:48 [Speaker 1]
Sorry.
01:52:48 [Speaker 1]
Paul is over this.

01:52:49 [Speaker 2]
Put down my sesame cake.

01:52:53 [Speaker 1]
But the, Frank Niffer has been the antagonist this whole time, and now he's not, which is an interesting choice.
01:53:00 [Speaker 1]
I guess, I mean, we saw him murder someone, and he also kinda raped well, maybe not raped.
01:53:05 [Speaker 1]
He

01:53:06 [Speaker 2]
coerced Coerces.

01:53:08 [Speaker 1]
Groomed, you could say.
01:53:11 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:53:11 [Speaker 1]
There's a yeah.
01:53:13 [Speaker 1]
But I think, like, what has been what has happened other than, like, Brad and Janet coming to terms with maybe being poly or being open and sexually open, what else has actually, like, happened?
01:53:28 [Speaker 1]
There's this whole storyline of, like, doctor Scott saying, like, he's trying to get whatever the transmission from good for fire or whatever.

01:53:35 [Speaker 1]
And that's not really important, but it's mainly important.
01:53:38 [Speaker 1]
It seems like an unnecessary detail.

01:53:41 [Speaker 3]
Right.
01:53:41 [Speaker 3]
But the movie starts with Brandon Janet.
01:53:43 [Speaker 3]
So it's clearly about how they change in some way,

01:53:47 [Speaker 1]
and see what

01:53:48 [Speaker 3]
it is.

01:53:48 [Speaker 1]
Done that.

01:53:49 [Speaker 3]
Right.

01:53:50 [Speaker 1]
And I think that was what I wanted.
01:53:51 [Speaker 1]
At the end of the movie, I was like, oh, I think I wanted to see, like, what happens to Brad and Janet in this new world that they've

01:53:58 [Speaker 3]
But I think that is the question that you're left with.
01:54:01 [Speaker 3]
Because you see them lying in the rubble with doctor Scott just literally lying there in the rubble, and you wonder how what is next for them?
01:54:09 [Speaker 3]
And, like, that's actually very cool, I think.
01:54:13 [Speaker 3]
My my questions are are, like, more logic questions that I, like, probably don't matter about who who Frank and Ferner was performing for.
01:54:22 [Speaker 3]
Where was he?

01:54:24 [Speaker 3]
Like, what was the like, the third act, what was the point of it?
01:54:27 [Speaker 3]
Is it just for fun?
01:54:28 [Speaker 3]
What's the goal of

01:54:29 [Speaker 1]
their whole mission here?

01:54:31 [Speaker 3]
I know.
01:54:31 [Speaker 3]
I know.
01:54:32 [Speaker 3]
I know.
01:54:33 [Speaker 3]
That's the big question.
01:54:33 [Speaker 3]
And and I think, ultimately, it is that Frank N Furter's goal was maybe they got stranded there.

01:54:38 [Speaker 3]
Frank N Furter was like, I wanna create a world that is my utopia, and I and it is, like, free sex.
01:54:44 [Speaker 3]
It's, like, everyone's invited.
01:54:46 [Speaker 3]
I wanna open up people up to,

01:54:47 [Speaker 1]
like, possibility.
01:54:48 [Speaker 1]
Most desirable.

01:54:49 [Speaker 3]
Yes.
01:54:49 [Speaker 3]
And I wanna and and, like, through that, probably became power hungry and kind of crazy and scary

01:54:55 [Speaker 4]
Okay.

01:54:55 [Speaker 3]
And, like, lost sight of, like, what that meant and got jealous of people.
01:55:00 [Speaker 3]
During that, Riff Raff and Magenta were watching their leader and their boss kind of, like, lose track of what the fuck they were doing, and they were, like, we gotta get out of here.
01:55:08 [Speaker 3]
Like, they got back in contact with their people to be, like Interesting.
01:55:11 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:55:12 [Speaker 3]
We we gotta go back.

01:55:14 [Speaker 3]
The mission isn't whatever this mission was, it's gone.

01:55:17 [Speaker 1]
Does it feel like okay.
01:55:18 [Speaker 1]
Question for everyone.
01:55:19 [Speaker 1]
Does it feel like the alien thing is, like

01:55:21 [Speaker 3]
Insane.

01:55:22 [Speaker 1]
Cop out?

01:55:22 [Speaker 3]
Yes.

01:55:23 [Speaker 1]
But you're they're like, got to the end of the story and there's, like, I don't know.
01:55:25 [Speaker 1]
They're I don't know.
01:55:27 [Speaker 1]
Aliens.

01:55:27 [Speaker 3]
I don't like that they're aliens.

01:55:30 [Speaker 2]
I think did anybody else notice that at the bottom of the pool when Rocky and doctor Frank N Furter fall in that it's the creation of Adam

01:55:41 [Speaker 1]
on the bottom of the But,

01:55:43 [Speaker 3]
oh my god.
01:55:43 [Speaker 3]
It is

01:55:43 [Speaker 1]
But, again, there's art that comes throughout entirely.

01:55:46 [Speaker 2]
I agree.

01:55:47 [Speaker 1]
That's Da Vinci.
01:55:47 [Speaker 1]
They have the Mona Lisa.
01:55:49 [Speaker 1]
They have

01:55:49 [Speaker 2]
the Right.
01:55:50 [Speaker 2]
It's throughout all of them.
01:55:51 [Speaker 2]
I don't disagree.
01:55:52 [Speaker 2]
And I think that they're that list and and, like, figures, people who were artists of the body or whatnot are referenced in this movie.
01:56:01 [Speaker 2]
But Whistler's mother?

01:56:03 [Speaker 2]
Whistler's mother.
01:56:04 [Speaker 2]
But there there is a thing to me about it's almost like Frank N Furter is like the fallen angel.
01:56:11 [Speaker 2]
Like, he's smite like, smited by the pitchfork, essentially.
01:56:15 [Speaker 2]
He's like a fallen angel, and the castle blasts off, and it's almost like Brad and Janet are, like, reborn as new people as they've been touched.

01:56:25 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:56:25 [Speaker 3]
Why?

01:56:26 [Speaker 2]
So it's, like, not to get, like, super weird, but it's almost like his mission was accomplished in that he hadn't created any perfect or great creations or convinced anybody of anything except for Brad and Janet of like free sex, free love, enjoying each other and he and others and bodies and stuff is like not a crime.
01:56:48 [Speaker 2]
And so that carried over with me, especially when we get to the ending narration.

01:56:53 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:56:54 [Speaker 3]
So I guess, from

01:56:55 [Speaker 1]
the end, my only question is, as we're ending here, what is the purpose of doctor Scott's character?

01:57:04 [Speaker 2]
I don't know.

01:57:05 [Speaker 1]
How does it change anything?
01:57:09 [Speaker 1]
The whole transfigure remuneration?

01:57:11 [Speaker 3]
This okay.
01:57:12 [Speaker 3]
The the the problem with doctor Scott is it throws a wrench into what we were saying earlier, which was, like, the whole point was to get doctor Scott there.
01:57:19 [Speaker 3]
Because once doctor Scott because if that's not the point, when doctor Scott shows up, then Frank N Furter is like, you brought him here.
01:57:28 [Speaker 3]
You were spying for him.
01:57:30 [Speaker 3]
Remember?

01:57:30 [Speaker 3]
And then and then he's like

01:57:32 [Speaker 1]
Distributed.

01:57:32 [Speaker 3]
That's and that's why he suddenly, like, meduses all of them.
01:57:36 [Speaker 3]
And and that's way more to me, that's stronger because because what really happened is he's looking for them, so he came.

01:57:46 [Speaker 1]
It's happenstance that Brad and doctor Scott both work for Doge.
01:57:51 [Speaker 1]
Is it happenstance, or is it purposeful?

01:57:54 [Speaker 3]
Well, I think he lives right next door probably.
01:57:57 [Speaker 3]
Right?

01:57:57 [Speaker 1]
Doctor Scott lives next door.

01:57:59 [Speaker 4]
Close?

01:58:00 [Speaker 3]
He's, like, right nearby.
01:58:01 [Speaker 3]
I think that's, like, a bunch of, like, scientists are, like Nothing works for each government.

01:58:05 [Speaker 2]
It's how they get is that how they get doctor Scott there?
01:58:08 [Speaker 2]
It part is is Brad that strategic that That's

01:58:11 [Speaker 3]
what I think what they're saying.

01:58:12 [Speaker 2]
I I wanna read apart, an excerpt from Charles Gray's closing of this movie.
01:58:19 [Speaker 2]
He says, and crawling in the planet's face, some insects called the human race lost in time and lost in space and meaning.
01:58:28 [Speaker 2]
I just think it's so fucking beautiful.
01:58:30 [Speaker 2]
I love it.
01:58:32 [Speaker 2]
I love that.

01:58:32 [Speaker 2]
It's, it's it's almost it's similar to me, may you rest in peace forever, David Lynch saying fix your hearts or die.

01:58:41 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:58:41 [Speaker 3]
Totally.
01:58:42 [Speaker 3]
Totally.

01:58:43 [Speaker 2]
It's a really, really cool way to end a movie that we have had.
01:58:48 [Speaker 2]
A conversation on that, I think, is mostly about, like, hey.
01:58:52 [Speaker 2]
Structure logic yada yada yada, which I don't know if the movie is that concerned.
01:58:57 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:58:57 [Speaker 2]
That.

01:58:57 [Speaker 3]
It a 100%.
01:58:58 [Speaker 3]
It's not.
01:58:59 [Speaker 3]
And that's what I kind of love about it, actually.
01:59:01 [Speaker 3]
Like, as much as I give it I gave it, like, less stars, I I don't it doesn't take away my love for the movie actually at all.
01:59:09 [Speaker 3]
And I will say, one thing that I kind of really respect about it is, like, I don't think especially in the seventies and and probably even now, like, we're in a place where this kind of, like, queer counterculture, like, lifestyle is the kind of lifestyle that at the end of this movie should be like, and we're, like, celebrating.

01:59:31 [Speaker 3]
It's actually one that is forced to fizzle out at the end of the movie.
01:59:35 [Speaker 3]
And, like, that is authentic Yeah.
01:59:38 [Speaker 3]
Actually.

01:59:39 [Speaker 1]
Is it yeah.
01:59:40 [Speaker 1]
And, again, we've all pretty much touched on how this was a sexual awakening in some way in some degree.

01:59:46 [Speaker 2]
For all of us.
01:59:47 [Speaker 2]
Absolutely.

01:59:48 [Speaker 1]
And I think, like, for many people, it was.

01:59:51 [Speaker 2]
Mhmm.

01:59:51 [Speaker 1]
And for the culture and

01:59:53 [Speaker 2]
As it should be.

01:59:55 [Speaker 1]
It deserves its place in what what did you say it was in?
02:00:00 [Speaker 1]
The film?

02:00:01 [Speaker 2]
The National Historic Registry.
02:00:03 [Speaker 2]
And I also just think it's a movie that is so sex positive, nonjudgmental.
02:00:11 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
02:00:11 [Speaker 2]
I think it's so essential that Brad and Janet are like, this behavior is kind of weird, but it's horny and I like it.
02:00:19 [Speaker 2]
And I and I'm not scared.

02:00:21 [Speaker 2]
I don't feel like I'm in danger.

02:00:22 [Speaker 3]
There's no

02:00:23 [Speaker 2]
And and because there's no reason.
02:00:24 [Speaker 2]
And I think that's so good

02:00:26 [Speaker 1]
and important of, like, Janet being like, oh, you're gay now, I guess.

02:00:29 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:00:29 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:00:30 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

02:00:30 [Speaker 1]
Right.
02:00:30 [Speaker 1]
Exactly.
02:00:31 [Speaker 1]
Like, there's nothing about that.
02:00:33 [Speaker 1]
It's just like, oh, yeah.
02:00:34 [Speaker 1]
You fucked him.

02:00:34 [Speaker 1]
I fucked him.

02:00:35 [Speaker 3]
I fucked him.
02:00:36 [Speaker 3]
We all fucked him.

02:00:37 [Speaker 2]
We all fucked.
02:00:37 [Speaker 2]
I just wrote everybody fucking everybody.

02:00:39 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:00:39 [Speaker 3]
I just wrote everyone fucks everyone.

02:00:41 [Speaker 1]
Babies fucking babies.
02:00:46 [Speaker 1]
Is that the same?
02:00:47 [Speaker 1]
No?
02:00:48 [Speaker 1]
That's what he's

02:00:49 [Speaker 2]
having.
02:00:49 [Speaker 2]
Bite about that.

02:00:50 [Speaker 3]
Wait.
02:00:50 [Speaker 3]
Wait.
02:00:50 [Speaker 3]
What happened?
02:00:51 [Speaker 3]
And one last question.
02:00:52 [Speaker 3]
What happened to all the people in sunglasses that were there?

02:00:55 [Speaker 3]
Did they die?

02:00:56 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
02:00:57 [Speaker 2]
Do they show up again at all?

02:00:58 [Speaker 1]
Were they imaginary?

02:01:00 [Speaker 4]
They show

02:01:00 [Speaker 2]
oh, they show up when, Meatloaf is riding the motorcycle around.
02:01:04 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
02:01:04 [Speaker 2]
They jump at

02:01:04 [Speaker 1]
the thing.

02:01:05 [Speaker 2]
Do they show up at dinner at all?

02:01:07 [Speaker 1]
Did they show up at dinner?

02:01:07 [Speaker 3]
They're not at dinner.
02:01:08 [Speaker 3]
Frankenpipes?
02:01:09 [Speaker 3]
No.
02:01:09 [Speaker 3]
Maybe maybe they were at the party.
02:01:10 [Speaker 3]
They got yeah.

02:01:11 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
02:01:12 [Speaker 3]
And the night ended.
02:01:13 [Speaker 3]
We know that I think about it.
02:01:14 [Speaker 3]
They all went to bed, and then there was dinner.
02:01:17 [Speaker 3]
Big match.

02:01:18 [Speaker 3]
Oh, yeah.
02:01:20 [Speaker 3]
I've never thought about that.
02:01:21 [Speaker 3]
Then they all went to bed.

02:01:22 [Speaker 1]
Had to kit they had to eat meatloaf.

02:01:24 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
02:01:25 [Speaker 2]
But

02:01:25 [Speaker 1]
that but were they at

02:01:26 [Speaker 2]
Wait.

02:01:26 [Speaker 3]
I realized is that why you're asking you about meatloaf earlier?

02:01:29 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

02:01:29 [Speaker 3]
Oh, I didn't even understand.
02:01:32 [Speaker 3]
Have you ever made meatloaf?
02:01:34 [Speaker 3]
I was like, I guess.
02:01:36 [Speaker 3]
That was the heel piece.
02:01:37 [Speaker 3]
But getting serious.

02:01:38 [Speaker 3]
I had to grow this.

02:01:39 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
02:01:39 [Speaker 1]
We've always

02:01:40 [Speaker 3]
Those took a long time.

02:01:41 [Speaker 2]
Renewing your family.

02:01:42 [Speaker 1]
Frank and Frodo's show with him.
02:01:44 [Speaker 1]
Were they in the audience that he was imagining?

02:01:46 [Speaker 3]
No.
02:01:48 [Speaker 3]
Probably.

02:01:49 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
02:01:49 [Speaker 1]
I I I hear what you're saying where you're like, what he was happy to go home, but he he liked to be here, and then he didn't wanna go home.
02:01:56 [Speaker 1]
He died.
02:01:56 [Speaker 1]
I don't know.

02:01:57 [Speaker 3]
It reminds me of all these, like, female artistic directors of theaters that were, like, started off being like, we're gonna change the way theater is made.
02:02:05 [Speaker 3]
And then, like, all they did was, like, hire a bunch of dudes.
02:02:08 [Speaker 3]
Not too much power.
02:02:10 [Speaker 3]
Aw.
02:02:10 [Speaker 3]
That's fine.

02:02:11 [Speaker 1]
Because they had to keep their jobs.

02:02:12 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:02:12 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:02:13 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:02:13 [Speaker 3]
I was just like is is it that's what I think of Frank and Fredder.
02:02:15 [Speaker 3]
It's like someone who just like, I had a dream once, and I lost track of my dream.

02:02:20 [Speaker 2]
Wow.
02:02:20 [Speaker 2]
I was corrupted.

02:02:21 [Speaker 1]
We're at the end of the movie, Paul.

02:02:23 [Speaker 2]
Wow.
02:02:23 [Speaker 2]
We sure are.

02:02:24 [Speaker 1]
This was not a episode for Quibi.
02:02:26 [Speaker 1]
This was not a quick episode.

02:02:28 [Speaker 2]
This was a good fucking meaty Meatloafy.

02:02:32 [Speaker 1]
Meatloafy

02:02:33 [Speaker 2]
episode.
02:02:33 [Speaker 2]
Bratwursty, bulgy episode.
02:02:37 [Speaker 2]
Lot to talk about.
02:02:38 [Speaker 2]
Who goes first?

02:02:40 [Speaker 1]
Well, Keiko started us out.

02:02:42 [Speaker 3]
So shouldn't I end it?

02:02:43 [Speaker 2]
I think I think you should end this.
02:02:45 [Speaker 2]
I'm gonna end it.
02:02:45 [Speaker 2]
I think that sounds good.

02:02:46 [Speaker 1]
Paul can start.
02:02:48 [Speaker 1]
He's the asshole here.

02:02:49 [Speaker 2]
I Hello.
02:02:51 [Speaker 2]
I'm going to give it a four.
02:02:53 [Speaker 2]
Four bulges.
02:02:54 [Speaker 2]
I'm gonna go up a half a point.
02:02:58 [Speaker 2]
I loved talking about this movie with everybody.

02:03:01 [Speaker 2]
It's interesting how bogged down we get in the who, what, where, when, why.
02:03:09 [Speaker 2]
And I do think the movie opens itself up to that.
02:03:12 [Speaker 2]
So it, you know, I don't have any qualms about that conversation at all.
02:03:17 [Speaker 2]
I do though find myself it's a weird caveat.
02:03:22 [Speaker 2]
I don't wanna watch this movie by myself again.

02:03:25 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
02:03:26 [Speaker 2]
So I will come up to half point based on so many things that we've discussed as well as knowing the next time I see this, I'm gonna go into it with a group of people.
02:03:39 [Speaker 2]
Four bulges.
02:03:42 [Speaker 2]
Benjamin.

02:03:43 [Speaker 1]
I heard my cat again.

02:03:45 [Speaker 3]
Kiko.

02:03:46 [Speaker 1]
Kiko.
02:03:47 [Speaker 1]
I don't know what he's complaining about.
02:03:48 [Speaker 1]
He has food up there.
02:03:50 [Speaker 1]
I think I'm also gonna go to four statues with bushes.
02:03:56 [Speaker 1]
My statue has

02:03:56 [Speaker 2]
a bush.
02:03:57 [Speaker 2]
It's got a bush.

02:03:58 [Speaker 1]
Got a bush.

02:03:59 [Speaker 2]
Never seen this part before.

02:04:02 [Speaker 1]
Yep.
02:04:02 [Speaker 1]
You can't watch the you can't do this at work.

02:04:05 [Speaker 2]
It's a musical.
02:04:05 [Speaker 2]
It's a little porny.

02:04:08 [Speaker 1]
We didn't quote nearly as much Tim Robinson.
02:04:10 [Speaker 1]
Also, I think one of the things that, like, the music in this movie just is another level.
02:04:18 [Speaker 1]
Mhmm.
02:04:18 [Speaker 1]
And I think that, like, my, like, questions around structure or logic or character in this is, like, irrelevant at a certain point.
02:04:28 [Speaker 1]
Because if you just want and again, I would love to see this in a theater with a group of people because I think that that is what it desires to be.

02:04:35 [Speaker 1]
It desires to be a place where a group of people give over themselves.

02:04:39 [Speaker 3]
Mhmm.

02:04:40 [Speaker 1]
And that's what the movie wants you to do, is just to give over yourself to the experience.
02:04:45 [Speaker 1]
And it's hard to do that when you're just, like, watching it on, you know, Amazon with your cat.
02:04:50 [Speaker 1]
So I'm gonna give it four statues with bushes, and I really wanna see it in the theater.

02:04:57 [Speaker 3]
I'm gonna I'm gonna give my I'm gonna give it 4.25.
02:05:02 [Speaker 3]
Oh, shit.
02:05:03 [Speaker 3]
And and here's why.
02:05:04 [Speaker 3]
The the problems are still there.
02:05:06 [Speaker 3]
But talking through the movie, I realized how much I think it's important that this is not a movie, like, where you're supposed to intellectualize.

02:05:15 [Speaker 3]
It is actually you're just supposed to go for the ride.
02:05:18 [Speaker 3]
If you don't wanna have fun, it's, like, your fault.

02:05:21 [Speaker 2]
You know

02:05:22 [Speaker 3]
what I mean?
02:05:22 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:05:22 [Speaker 3]
It's, like, your problem.
02:05:24 [Speaker 3]
They're giving you a fucking awesome time to your problem.
02:05:27 [Speaker 3]
And and some and, like, actually, it wasn't until we were talking about it that I and I I had said this thing that I'm like, oh, that is that is I actually that that, like, opens something up for me of, like, finally getting to talk about it.

02:05:39 [Speaker 3]
It was, like, the way that it peters out on the end was kind of one of the reasons why I gave it a lower score earlier.
02:05:44 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:05:45 [Speaker 3]
And now thinking about it, it's like, yes.
02:05:47 [Speaker 3]
It's not supposed to have a big joyous celebratory ending because that's not how it felt back then to be a, like, a queer person in a complicated gender expansive space and, like, who felt like a freak.
02:05:59 [Speaker 3]
Like, it didn't feel joyous and celebratory.

02:06:02 [Speaker 3]
It felt like you were, like, being erased and faded away.
02:06:06 [Speaker 3]
And that actual that energy is so clear and actually even though the logic of this movie may not be clear, that feeling I I get so so so clearly.
02:06:18 [Speaker 3]
And for that reason, I give an extra point to five.
02:06:22 [Speaker 3]
I will say watching it in a theater with other people who are also there to have, like, a fucking bonkers time, that is a five star event.

02:06:31 [Speaker 1]
I bet.
02:06:32 [Speaker 1]
I bet.

02:06:32 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:06:32 [Speaker 3]
And we'll make it we'll take you to that, bud.

02:06:34 [Speaker 1]
I wanna do that.
02:06:35 [Speaker 1]
I wanna go to there.
02:06:37 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

02:06:37 [Speaker 3]
I want you to go to that with me and then come back and talk about, like, Forrest Gump or some shit.

02:06:43 [Speaker 1]
Wait.
02:06:43 [Speaker 1]
We're going to a midnight show of Forrest Gump?

02:06:45 [Speaker 2]
If you just pay no attention to what's going on, don't think about it, don't worry about it, and just do what everybody tells you to do, life is gonna be a dream.
02:06:54 [Speaker 2]
Thanks, Forrest Gump.

02:06:55 [Speaker 1]
Life is but a dream.

02:06:57 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
02:06:57 [Speaker 2]
Anybody who protests Vietnam or whatever, they are gonna have a horrible existence.
02:06:59 [Speaker 2]
It's zooming in on Keiko.

02:07:08 [Speaker 3]
It in a

02:07:08 [Speaker 1]
I did.
02:07:09 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
02:07:09 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

02:07:09 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
02:07:09 [Speaker 2]
Keiko, thank you.
02:07:11 [Speaker 2]
Thank you.
02:07:11 [Speaker 2]
Thank you for joining us and for bringing this movie that had just been, like, way too long, and what an eye opening journey this time.

02:07:20 [Speaker 3]
So I'm so happy that I got an excuse to watch this movie for the first time in over ten years.
02:07:26 [Speaker 3]
A movie that I, like, loved once.

02:07:28 [Speaker 1]
Me too.

02:07:29 [Speaker 3]
It was actually really cool to to realize that I I still loved it.
02:07:34 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

02:07:34 [Speaker 1]
Is there anything you want to say, where people can find you or follow you or anything like that?

02:07:39 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
02:07:39 [Speaker 3]
You can you can follow me on Instagram, Keiko the Green.
02:07:42 [Speaker 3]
You can you go to my website, keikogreen.com.
02:07:46 [Speaker 3]
I don't update it very often.
02:07:47 [Speaker 3]
So it's just mostly follow me on Instagram.

02:07:49 [Speaker 1]
Follow her.

02:07:50 [Speaker 3]
Absolutely.
02:07:50 [Speaker 3]
See my place.
02:07:51 [Speaker 3]
See my show when it comes out.
02:07:52 [Speaker 3]
See Interior Chinatown on Hulu.

02:07:54 [Speaker 1]
Interior Chinatown.
02:07:55 [Speaker 1]
I bought the book after I watched the show.

02:07:57 [Speaker 3]
So glad.

02:07:57 [Speaker 1]
Because I was like, this show's fucking great.
02:07:59 [Speaker 1]
Is there a season two coming?
02:08:01 [Speaker 1]
Can you say?

02:08:02 [Speaker 3]
No.
02:08:03 [Speaker 3]
Let's say no.
02:08:05 [Speaker 3]
But Margo is coming out, and we're feeling really good about that show.

02:08:07 [Speaker 2]
So That's awesome.
02:08:08 [Speaker 2]
It sounds amazing.
02:08:09 [Speaker 2]
Like, cast and you and, like, it sounds great.

02:08:12 [Speaker 3]
All I'll say and I'm I hope I don't I like it's fine.
02:08:17 [Speaker 3]
It's in my episode on Monday, I I saw Elle Fanning in colored makeup full body for my episode.

02:08:26 [Speaker 2]
What Pantone?
02:08:27 [Speaker 2]
Do you know if they had to pay extra for it?

02:08:29 [Speaker 3]
G 16.
02:08:30 [Speaker 3]
I'm just kidding.
02:08:31 [Speaker 3]
I don't know.

02:08:34 [Speaker 1]
G six?
02:08:35 [Speaker 1]
Teen.

02:08:36 [Speaker 2]
Like a g six, but 10 more.
02:08:38 [Speaker 2]
Everyone, thank you so much for joining us.
02:08:41 [Speaker 2]
Thank Keiko Clap as you're listening independently of us recording now.
02:08:48 [Speaker 2]
Our bookend themes are Jamie Henwood, What Are We Doing, and What Are We Watching, or Matthew Foskett.
02:08:55 [Speaker 2]
Fun facts is Chris Olds, and our interstitials are Ben McFadden.

02:08:59 [Speaker 2]
You can follow me on Letterboxd at Paul Axe Badly.

02:09:02 [Speaker 1]
You can follow me on Letterboxd at Run BMC, Run B E E M C, as well as Instagram Run B E E And you should follow us on Instagram at review x two podcast.

02:09:12 [Speaker 2]
And listen to us on any platform like, subscribe, share, talk, from any type of feelings that you may have.
02:09:21 [Speaker 2]
But if you're gonna rate it, just the five stars only would be great.
02:09:24 [Speaker 2]
Otherwise, don't worry about the ratings.
02:09:27 [Speaker 2]
Save the energy.

02:09:28 [Speaker 1]
Stick with us this, sexy seventies sweaty summer.

02:09:32 [Speaker 2]
We're gonna have something super for you.

02:09:34 [Speaker 1]
We are.
02:09:35 [Speaker 1]
I was waiting for them to see if there was any anticipate.

02:09:43 [Speaker 2]
Stay.
02:09:43 [Speaker 2]
What?
02:09:44 [Speaker 2]
Patience.
02:09:46 [Speaker 2]
You can catch us on Good Pods though if you wanna do it that way.
02:09:50 [Speaker 2]
Thank you so much and stay sweaty.

02:09:55 [Speaker 5]
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02:09:55 [Speaker 5]
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02:10:18 [Speaker 5]
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02:10:22 [Speaker 5]
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