Maximum Overdrive / Checkmate. Ponce De Leon. (Guest: Eric Driscoll)

Our neighbor, Guest: Eric Driscoll (Mr. D Likes Movies), from the Yada Yada Podcast barges through the door with his choice “Maximum Overdrive” (d. King 1986). Starring: Emilio Estevez, Pat Hingle, and Laura Harrington. In a movie with the most confusing rules on the pod since “Gremlins,” we spend this entire episode questioning the motivations, the hows, the whens, the whys, that this movie asks us all. Forgive the ad. It's a bit Over the Top. 8/19!

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Hey, everyone. Welcome into the review review. This is what the hell is this? I think it's too cheap. This is a movie podcast, and I am one of the cohosts of this podcast.

My name is Benjamin McFadden. I am one of the cohosts of this podcast. Just Paul is fine. You don't need any additional information. Leave me alone.

Just Paul and Benjamin McFadden here. Let me give you a quick breakdown. We bring in a guest, and that guest brings us a movie. You know, we have a few guidelines, not real strong rules. And we are making up Something that's seven to eight years old at least, something they feel passionate about.

And they bring it to us, and they say, hey. Assholes watch this. And so we watch this in our own time, and then we all come together and we'll discuss our original viewing of this, our newest viewing, what our rating out of five might be, and maybe, you know, maybe we'll make friends along the way. Speaking of friends oh, sorry. Go on.

Say. No. You were talking about assholes watch this. I was bent over like a hero watching this. Oh, you were bent over.

Asshole, and it was not effective. And, also, everything was kinda upside down. I'm glad we got a good shot of your asshole. Our friend here today, though, is Eric Driscoll. You brought us maximum overdrive.

I did. You introduced yourself to our audience. Hello, Ben and Paul. Yeah. My name is Eric Driscoll.

I'm in, Vancouver, British Columbia. I'm a high school teacher. I'm obsessed with attention, so I have a podcast, a YouTube channel, all that fun stuff. But I do have to speak to Paul's. When he says you can bring any movie you want, the idea that I could just say Maximum Overdrive, Stephen King, and you guys were like absolutely no questions asked, I knew it was gonna be a good podcast.

Yes. Minimum enjoyment. Who gives a shit? Shit? Fuck it.

Exactly. Yeah. We're here for a fun time, not a long time. Spoilers. For a fun time.

Yeah. So to say. So was, so was Stephen King's directing. Oh. Well Okay.

Tom with the wind. So, Eric, you have a a podcast, Seinfeld, the Yada Yada podcast. Thank you. Yeah. So it's called the Yada Yada podcast.

I started it in January. Kind of a quick story, I was out with beers with a friend of mine, and she was like, I've always wanted to do a podcast. And I've sort of had some experience, less than successful experience with podcasts, and we both are obsessed with Seinfeld. So we sort of came up with this structure where we go, random order of episodes. We have a category of conversation like best use of food, modern Seinfeld, most valuable side character, and we break down each episode.

So we're gonna try to cover a 180 episodes over the course of the podcast and probably the b movie because why not? That's fantastic. That is fantastic. The answer to the first one is Kenny Rogers Roasters. Hell, yeah.

We've already covered that one. I'm sure you have. A good one. That had to be really early on. Absolutely.

That was one that's one of my personal favorite episodes. Yeah. Back in Jerry Kramer. The Jerry Kramer flip is one of the best things to happen in that show, and I I'm here for it. I'm here for it.

I'm burning my redness in there. I also just do, like, little movie review stuff. So that's how I found you guys on Reddit and stuff is I do, mister d likes movies on TikTok and Instagram, and that's more just, like, general movie stuff. And that's m r m r dash d Yep. Mister Or just m r d likes movies.

M r d likes movies. Okay. That's awesome. See that you used to review rap albums? Oh, shit.

Okay. So you've done your research. Well done. Yeah. So if you look at the banner on my YouTube channel, I don't know how to change it, so it's stuck as mister d likes rap.

And in 2018, I started this channel reviewing rap albums to, like, build a connection with students, and it was great. It was a lot of fun, and then I got bored of it, and then I wrote and created a rap album. So I have a rap album on SoundCloud called Mr. D Raps. Some songs I'm proud of, some I'm pretty embarrassed by.

And then I also wanna be an actor, so there's actually a 10 episode comedy sitcom I created during the pandemic called Me, Myself, and Isolation. Is this on your YouTube channel? This is all on my YouTube channel. Fantastic. I am I am so I'm also in education.

I imagine that when your students find these things, it's the gold for them. Yeah. It's my kind of, like, my icebreaker is the first thing. We all do, like, our, two truths and a lie and then subscribe to mister d's YouTube channel. It's sort of the last step of the process.

So That's great. Yeah. How can they not engage? And that's the first step. Right?

Is just getting that to happen. As we're talking about this and this whole rap album thing, I have to ask, are you excited? Alfredo two. Worth the wait? What were your thoughts?

I've downloaded it. I haven't listened to it yet. I'm like too far into that's my problem now and that's sort of how I fell at a rap as I got really into podcasts and that sort of consumed my life. But the only ones I've I've been able to listen to which were really good were the new Tyler the Creator album and the new Clipz album with Pusha t and Clipz, and that was fantastic. But I haven't had a chance to check out yet.

Paul, were you getting excited? Is that why you wanna talk about why you excited? This is a person who has reviewed rap albums, so I wanted to know the thoughts. I have very hot this is like a 4.5, maybe a five out of five. He does, like, the chopsticks and this sub, but it's in ramen.

The album cover is great. It's wonderful. I was just wondering if there were thoughts here. But it's on my to do list. Yeah.

Is that why you're excited, Paul? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It's why I'm excited. Eric Okay.

Why are you excited? Why am I excited? I got my podcast. I got my movie stuff. And I guess I was excited because I'm a big Stephen King fan.

And I thought to myself, you know what? Why not choose a movie like Maximum Overdrive, find a couple cool guys in a podcast, and make them watch this weird fuck up movie for the fun of it. That would be my main source of excitement in the world right now. I'll be completely honest. A lot of us get our jollies in really fucking weird ways.

Cocaine. It's hard to say. Apparently, for Stephen King in some very weird ways. Absolutely. Revenge of the Fallen, those semis, man.

The those semis are Oh, you just took one of my notes away, Paul. I said, is this a Transformers movie? Question number. It's the prequel. It's the prequel we've all been waiting for.

Did do you know De Laurentiis do both of those? No. Or that was Bonaventura, maybe, on the new one. No. No.

I think it was Transformers. I think the original Transformers was De Laurentiis. Animated ones? Maybe it was. I love that original one from Disney.

So few. There were so many other Transformers Green Goblin. We all know that. Of course. Why not?

Marvel, who gives a shit? We don't have a dime. Ben, why are you excited? Well, as people who have listened to this have listened, know that I'm, I've now wrapped on my short film, Roughways, and now we are in edits. I am sending notes to the editor.

I'm watching rough cuts. It's it's a fun process. It's kind of a scary process. I'm not I'm not a super skilled, like, filmmaker. I come from the theater.

So, like, my my background is theater directing, theater acting. So I still You know, we shot this short film in Seattle, which is where I'm from, a couple weeks ago. And so now we're I'm watching these cuts. I'm like, oh, can we just use that angle? And my editor being like, oh, you don't have that.

We didn't get that? Why didn't we get that? And then having to, like, figure out what to do. So, yeah, it's exciting. It's, anxiety inducing.

It's I think it's going to come together, and shape nicely, but it does there is a level of directing on this end of it, partially cutting, partially, like, arranging, and just trying to find the the gold in there. Oh, hi, Mark. That's why that's why I'm excited. I'm hoping we have, like, a really polished version by October. It's sort of sort of a goal.

Yeah. My biggest festival that I'm targeting, which is a hard one, but it's Sith because it's just in Seattle. It's just home and it yeah. We'll see. We'll see.

Awesome. Did I mention a sidekick is a talking pie? You didn't. Here's my bag of money. Take my bag of money.

You've done it again. Are we all Northwest guys, by the way? Are we all Seahawk fans? Well, he's from Vancouver. They're Well, no.

I'm originally from no. I'm originally from Ottawa, and I'm actually a Philadelphia Eagles fan. Oh, okay. Well, it's been a good run for you. Good for you.

It's been a great time. Thanks, buddy. Me for you. What have we been watching aside Super Bowl victories? I watch a lot of movies.

I go to the theaters a lot. Good. I listen to your guys' takes on twenty eight years later in f one, and I was really excited because you guys know your movie stuff. And I'm hope I'm not sure if you guys have seen them yet, but I was hoping to chat briefly about Superman and Fantastic Four if you've seen either of those. I've seen both I've seen both of them.

You've seen both of them. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I'll start with I'll start with Superman because I Yeah. I was shocked at how much I loved it.

Like, I was kinda blown away by just how fun it was entertaining. James Gunn kinda has a knack for, like, weird wacky shit that sometimes makes you emotional and cry Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. And, it's kind of a weird take, but, like, it was cool to see the good guys, like, front and center.

That sort of, like, kindness is punk rock sort of really, as a high school teacher sort of struck a chord with me, which I really appreciated. So I left that movie being like, hell yeah. This is a sick experience. So Yeah. What did you do?

I liked it. I liked it a lot. We haven't really had a, a representation on screen of Superman that I I get from, like, the Superman cartoons or the or or even some some of the comics that go into these, like, outlandish sci fi places. I really appreciate and this is my thing with comic book movies in general is, like, especially, like, ones where we've seen multiple takes, from different filmmakers. It's like going to the comic book stop shop and being, like, if I pick up Frank Miller's Batman, that's gonna be different than the Batman Superman stuff, like the combo stuff.

This is okay to me that it's James Gunn's Superman, and I think that that's just, like, how I approach it. And I know that it's not gonna be necessarily perfect, but it was it was fun. And I I enjoyed Korn Sweat a lot as Superman. I thought he was really, really good, and I loved him and Brosnahan's, like, chemistry. And then I I thought Nicholas Hoult was the best slice of Luther we've had.

Absolutely. Absolutely. That was me. And then I liked Fantastic Four a lot as well. Oh.

Interesting. I wanna echo both of y'all sentiments about Superman as it's not Yeah. Some five star thing for me. I it wasn't the perfect thing for me. I understand this is a crowd pleasing thing that's designed for a lot of people across a lot of ages and spectrums of fandom and things that they're passionate about.

And I think that probably pitches a lot of strikes through the zone, like a lot a lot. And I really enjoyed the movie. I didn't think it was, you know, it's not the thing that's gonna make me go comic book movies again because I it got to a place that I was like, I'm too old. And I my I mean, my birthday is coming up, and I'm only gonna be but 01/5056 and then a one. And then if you add Cocaine.

With the but divide by pie, you see. But I I agree with what a lot of you guys are saying in terms of Superman. It's, like, it's bright, it's fun, it's energetic. It does kind of some over the top fun things that I think speak to a lot of people in a lot of places. It it does what it wants to do really successfully.

I enjoyed it. I didn't love it, but I did like it. And then, Ben, you saw Fantastic Four? Yeah. I saw it on Friday.

I truly did not I did not care for that movie. I was a little shocked. Like, I was a little bit thrown. I was like because I saw the positive, Rotten Tomatoes score, and I was I like Thunderbolts. I like Thunderbolts a lot, so I went in with pretty high expectations.

Yeah. It seems like the criticism from people who kinda grew up on Fantastic Four is a lot more positive. Like, they sort of see this representation of those characters the way it's supposed to. But I just found it as a movie just kinda joyless, bloodless, not that interesting. It just I I just sat there just I don't know what it was.

I just couldn't put my finger out. There was nothing I could latch on to. Like, I found Galactus to be uninteresting. I found the wrap up to be a bit shoddy and kinda just half assedly thrown together. There was just yeah.

I just I was shocked I was shocked at how because I usually give Marvel the benefit of the doubt. Like, I'm kind of a Doctor Strange multiverse of madness I will stand for a million times. But this one, I was just like, something about it. I just couldn't couldn't get out into it. Couldn't get into it.

This was my this was my favorite Marvel since Endgame. What? Yeah. And What? My wife enjoyed it a lot too.

And I my brother actually doesn't like Marvel movies, and he actually likes this one a lot. I don't know what's going on with it. To me to me, it was all about to me, it was all about the characters. I thought I really like Matt Shakman as a director, but I loved the character stuff. It felt less like a superhero movie to me and more like a like a character driven sci fi movie.

Life as a house. That was me. I I felt really connected with the the four core, and I was really invested in that. I don't wanna give too much away. Paul hasn't seen it.

But I was really invested in that baby. That was There you go. Yeah. In that thing. I I you know what I watched or I tried to watch, Paul?

I watched fifteen minutes of the Minecraft movie. I put it on on the HBO movie. That was terrible. I turned it off immediately. Oh, no.

Oh, boy. Oh, no. I was like I went into it. I'm like, oh, let's just put this on. Even as a background movie, this is one of the first blockbuster tent poles that I felt, oh, I'm getting old to a point where I was like, this comedy, as much as I love Jack Black, this comedy and as much as I love Napoleon Dynamite, it just wasn't didn't work for me.

It felt very childish, like, to the point where I'm like, I'm not even gonna put this on in the background. So that's what I'm not watching, Paul. What do you mean by the way? Have you seen it, Paul? I haven't.

But, Ben, I'm sure of it. It's not you. It's the children who are wrong. Yes. Eric, you seen it?

Yes? No? Yeah. Like it's it's interesting because I I think there's a big difference because I've heard a lot of people who try to watch it on HBO Crave, what have you. It's sort of a boring, not that interesting movie.

I saw it opening weekend expecting a very kind of chaotic theatrical experience that I believe kind of with like a headache and mildly annoyed. Here. Thank you. But it was honestly probably the most joy filled experience I had in the theaters. Not because because I do agree with you the movie.

It's quite childish. The humor is pretty subpar, but in the theaters, they just had this weird inside joke where there were so many callbacks, call outs, like, I am Steve, crushin' loaf. Like, there were so many TikTok memes that were created that I had no idea about going into it. And I'm just sitting there with my popcorn, and everyone's just yelling things at the screen. Fuck.

Picking doggy. Yeah. Like, it was just a lot of joy. It was just, like, a really positive it wasn't over the top. So I I and especially because, again, I work in a high school, and I got to go in on Monday and tell all the kids I saw a Minecraft movie.

And there were a couple students for weeks. We just pair it lines from the movie back and forth at each other. So it was a weirdly, like, kinda wholesome movie watching experience. But do I remember anything from that movie? Not really.

To specifics, Jennifer Coolidge was weird, but you probably didn't get that far. So I think I just got there. Maybe. What I've been watching is something completely different. It is The Hunting Wives on Netflix.

It is Dallas or Passions on NBC daytime. Anybody? Melrose Place? My mom and my mom would watch that. Yeah.

Tease and swears. Yeah. And all kinds of fake melodrama and salacious whatever and storylines that aren't wrapped up. It stars Malin Akerman and Britney Snow and Dermot Mulroney and a a good amount of recognizable names. The show itself, the first two episodes, solid.

Hook you. Well shot, well scored. The actors all know what they're in and what they're doing. It's like this exaggerated kind of soap opera that is allowed to go places that these other trashy TV experiences do not know? This is, like, soap this is soap opera?

Essentially. Is this is it it's not a doc okay. Okay. Because it's not a documentary. This is, like, a soap opera Yeah.

Hunting wives. The wives are hunters. Okay. Or they are wives that hunt. Oh.

The hunting wives. Yes. Yes. But how much hunting how much hunting is there? Second question.

There is some hunting of a few question instances. Paul, how much of your time do you value? None. None. Ben, I scheduled doing this with you.

Why did you hit the button? What made you you saw Hunting Wives, and you were just like, yes, this is for me. My name is Paul and I'm gonna watch The Hunting Wives today and then continue to watch The Hunting Wives. What brought this on? Special k, the the exquisite madame Kimbo was like, Hunting Wives gotta do it.

I had to guess that. Mall and Ackerman. You would not have made that choice on your own. Okay. And I we watched one and I was like, that's not bad.

It's like Melrose Place, but, like, there's nudity and swears and murder and things. Let's keep going with this. Speaking of nudity, murder Intrigue. Thing, I think well, not intrigue, but nudity, swears, and, murder. I think we should talk, some facts.

Intrigue. No. None of that. That's not That was a beautiful segue, Ben. That was a beautiful segue.

Intrigue not included. Archaeology is the search for facts. Maximum overdrive, minimum enjoyment was brought to us by Dino De Laurentiis Entertainment Group. It is rated r nineteen eighty six. It is an hour and thirty eight minutes.

The budget was $10,000,000. What did somebody just, what, sneezed and it went away? Sneezed a couple few 100 times and it went away? Let's go blow this guy. Adjusted.

That's $29,400,000. Opening weekend is 07/27/1986. Wow. Almost exactly thirty nine years ago. Almost exactly.

$3,200,000 adjusted that is 9.4. Final gross in North America was 7.4. Adjusted, that is 21.7. Not That's bad. Quite That's bad.

The mark. Final gross worldwide, same. Other releases this weekend, Heartburn We all and Haunted Honeymoon. Weekend top five were alien dollar sign, Heartburn, Karate Kid part two, Ruthless People, and Top Gun. This movie finished seven.

Other films from 1986, Crocodile Dundee, The Color of Money, one of the great, great sequels, and a legacy sequel so many years later. Pretty in Pink, Peggy Sue Got Married, Wildcats, Tough Guys, and One Crazy Summer. I'm looking at looking at the list of movies, and I'm just wondering, like, that is a that is a cast of films. I'm wondering if either of you have any relationship to any of those wonderful 86 films. Well, in, The Weeknd Top Five, we have an Alien versus Aliens episode that people should listen to, where Paul and I go tete titette or mono e mono or Zeno v Zeno against each other.

So listen to that one. Mano e Jerko. Yeah. But in terms of the other films, I mean, of course, Crocodile Dundee, you know, and Color Money. Jerk store was running out of you.

But the last So wait. Wildcat guys went crazy somewhere. I don't know. I just wanna take a guess. So was Paul the alien and then Ben was the alien dollar signs guy, or was the other way around?

Other way around. For for context, I think Paul's usually the action guy in this group. So he usually leans towards a lot more action oriented stuff. And you're the one with taste because I'm also pro alien one. So well done.

Oh, son of a We can add that to the challenge. He's a Letterboxed letterboxed average. Letterboxed average. Yeah. Letterboxed average.

For me, 1986, part of the reason why I wanted to mention color of money and being a legacy c. I think that's my favorite Scorsese still to this day. That's a fun take. I like that. Thank you.

Letterboxed averaged 2.6. Follow us, won't you? I'm at Run B M C on Letterboxd. I'm at Paul ax badly. Eric, do you have a Letterboxd?

Oh, I'm all I'm a patron, my friend. Oh, no. That's always username is Driskky, and that's with two s's and two k's. So d r I s s k k y. We hope you enjoy your two creepy new followers.

Yeah. Hell yeah. And the other 13 that you might get. But the two creepy ones are guaranteed. Leonard Moulton rated this as a bomb.

The bad kind. That was not a good not the bomb, but, like, a a bomb. Not an a bomb, but a bomb. So has this been bomb summer? Are we bought we're back to the bomb?

I mean, we're we're in September now or creeping up to September. So summer. In the dregs. We're in the dregs, though. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, this movie wasn't released in the dregs. Rotten Tomatoes, 14%. Popcorn meter, 50%. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Okay. Metacritic, 24. Who decided 5.4 user. Major award wins and nominations, the cocaine consumption award from the Cocaine Consumers Association of South America.

Cocaine. I I know that's a thing. I also don't know I don't wanna call the question your research department, but it did get nominated for some. Count those on your thing. We try to leave them off.

We usually find Razzies to be insulting and Like, it's I mean, it's just me. I learned and they're I think they're kind of misogynistic too. Like, I think they have a I agree. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, a guy lost a fucking eye to make this movie. Like, light it up. Yeah. Fuckers. Light it up.

Like, leave it let them let like, a guy lost an eye to try to entertain you. Leave him alone. Leave his movie. Leave this movie alone. That's true.

But his name is not Stephen King. Right? No. Yeah. Or or Emilio Estevez, the other Golden Razzie nominee.

Right. Stephen King, directed this movie, and that's all he did, at least for directing. But he did write it as well. You might know him famously from Cat's Eye, Creepshow, and Sleepwalkers. Oh, yeah.

Based on his story Trucks, which I don't know for you all. I watched this on Tubi, which I qualify for. Hell, yeah. We make we make so little money, we can Qualify for Tubi. Yeah.

But afterwards, it's like, would you just finished this movie. Would you like to watch trucks, the Stephen King like, there was another movie made Did you watch it? Did you watch it? I did not. This is starring Timothy Busfield.

I I watched the trailer. I watched the trailer. It's looks the exact same movie, but with less recognizable people and maybe a higher budget. I just love that trucks is Trucks. Yeah.

What do you do about these trucks? Like, what should I call this movie? Get away from these trucks. What should I call the story I'm writing? Maximum overdrive.

Fuck you. Better better title. Better title than trucks is maximum overdrive. I'm sure ACDC gave him that. Is that just what you say after you cut up all your lines?

Do you just scream into the sky and go maximum overdrive? This machine could be an asshole. Director of photography is Armando Van Nuunzi, r I p, Sandra Waterloo, Frankenstein Unbound. The music is AC lightning bolt DC, which also did the soundtracks of Last Action Hero, Iron Man, and Battleship. Producers Dino De Laurentiis, RIP, Flash Gordon, and Martha De Laurentiis as Martha Schumacher, RIP, also did Breakdown.

Oh, was she embarrassed? What? Why did she change her name? My what? I don't know.

But you know who else is in this movie is Amelia. The mighty duck man? You swear to god? Okay. Swear to The legend.

The guy who got fired from doing a Disney plus series of Mighty Ducks. Mighty Ducks. Yeah. Because he was Coach Bombay, man. Anti vaccine.

Oh, shit. Coach Bombay. Oh, what? Dude. Yeah.

Disappoint. Emilio Westavez plays Bill, Men at Work, Repo Man, the Mighty Ducks. Pat Hingle, r I p, plays Hendershot, The Quick and the Dead, Hang them High, and Batman Returns. Listen to our Batman Returns episode. That goes, I believe.

Laura Harrington plays Brett Polly. What's eating Gilbert great? Great. What's eating Gilbert Great? Gilbert great.

What are we gonna grate the grapes? The devil's advocate. Who's eating grape? Is she's she might be one of the worst actors I've ever seen? It's let's we'll talk about it.

We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Okay. Year Yearly Smith plays Connie, the Simpsons movie, the legend of Billie Jean, as good as it gets. James Short plays Kurt.

Diggstown, Apollo thirteen, Ransom. Did you guys see they're doing a a rerelease of Apollo 13 in IMAX? Oh, shit. About this. Yes.

I heard about this. Down for that. I just saw the trailer for it when we went to IMAX, and I was like, I'm I'm going to that. Down for that. Linda McEldiff plays Wanda June, JFK, Working Girls, Little Man Tate.

JC Quinn, RIP, plays Duncan, Barfly, The Abyss, The Prophecy. Christopher Murney plays Camp Lohman. I'm tired of talking about these people. But talking of Taking of Pelham one two three, oh, gee, that's a that's a phenomenal movie. Barton Fink, also a good movie.

And The Last Dragon. Oh, great movie. Great movie. Yeah. Holter Graham plays Deac Hairspray from '88, Fly Away, Holmes, small time.

Frankie Faison plays Handy coming to America, do the right thing, and Silence of the Lambs. He also I wanna say, he was in Manhunter all the way he was in a bunch of the Hannibal movies and maybe even his different characters. Oh, really? Yeah. I think he played the same character like an orderly in a few of them, but was a different character in Manhunter and, but either way, I love Frankie Faison.

Those were I I didn't see any trucks listed in those in those. No. Non union. They're not yeah. They're non union actors.

That's what Stephen King did. He wanted to skirt the rules, so he went with the non union trucks. Couldn't get them on this on the list. Speaking but crazy is to think of all of the or stunt drivers they had to have. Yeah.

Oh, and stunt remote control operators. Or they just had PAs out there driving around a bunch of SUVs. Based on what we're about to hear, it might be. Safety safety was the number one priority on this film. That's what we all need to walk away knowing.

Safety and fun. Yeah. And cocaine. And cocaine. Eric, do you have some fun facts for us?

I got some fun facts. Fun facts. Fun facts, everybody. It's fun fact time. These might be the most fun facts any movie has ever had in the history of movies.

Yeah. For those that don't know, this is Stephen King's first and only directing credit which is a gosh darn shame because I would've I could've used some more. He has spoken out about he he he was coked out of his mind during production, later disowned the film and he called it a quote, moron movie. And someone asked him once, hey, Steven, how come you haven't directed a movie since? And he just said, watch Maximum Overdrive.

And that was his answer. I don't know if you saw it, one of the trailers and when you watch this trailer after you've seen the movie, Stephen King stares at the camera and points at you. And he says, if you want it done right, you have to do it yourself in referencing directing Maximum Overdrive. And I I feel like he missed the mark on that one. I think he but he had a bunch of light powder on his nose when he was Oh, so much yeah.

It was bad. In that trailer, actually, they used the Alan Holworth and John Carpenter score from Halloween three season of the witch. So it definitely gave it a spooky vibe. Of course. Why?

Yeah. It's it when you watch the movie, it has none of that because you just hear hear nothing but hell's bells the entire time you're watching the movie. It's weird. Somehow, the music that John Carpenter and Alan Howarth made for their spooky horror movie really works and sets a spooky vibe. And for some reason, I feel like if I watched that same trailer and if it were just like, Becky, back.

I hit the sack. I would be spooked out. Oh, my hold on. One of the things I wrote was how much money did ACDC get for this shit show? I just wanna Do you have a number?

I wish I had a number. I just I don't know either. Yeah. Because it's so much different music from different albums too at times. Could they have paid him in cocaine?

Is that an okay thing to do in Hades? Is that Probably. Or cool vans? Yeah. Yeah.

There's a rumor that George a Romero directed a large portion of this while Stephen King was in treatment for his addiction issues. I guess fans recognize some of his iconic style. And though King never says that he did it, he does mention that Romero was constantly on set in giving advice as well. But not the ACDC piece that was just I mean pure. Okay.

I I feel like plot is basically Dawn of the Dead two degrees. Yep. It's the mist. Yeah. Which he wrote which he wrote, like, three or six years before this.

Eight years later? Like, the book? Trucks, the book, predates the mist book. Okay. Thick.

And then the the movie comes six years after the mist book, and then the movie the mist comes, you know, twenty years later or what. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like a natural elevation to write a book called trucks. It's it feels like that feels like a very, like, toddler thing.

Like, I'm gonna run out of trucks. I don't you know what's scary is trucks. You get you go down that road too fast. Why don't you keep your son out of that road? Oh my god.

This episode is about trucks. You buy trucks. Yeah. I read I read the short story trucks. Not his best work, I would say.

What? I mean, his best No. It's quite there's there's one paragraph that uses four similes in four consecutive sentences, and it's pretty rough. Pretty rough stuff from our boy, King. Speaking speaking of Did you land on me, Bubba?

Who all is excited for Running Man? Oh, very. And the and The Long Walk. Is that Stephen King as well? It is.

That one looks yeah. Both of them look pretty sick. Yeah. Agreed. Listen to our Running Man episode, the OG one.

And our upcoming running man episode. Wow. Wow. Sorry, Eric. Keep going.

No. This episode is sponsored by the running man featuring. Let's keep it rolling. I'm really nice. The the other so the Dixie Boy truck stop, it was a set that was built 10 miles outside of Wilmington, and it was so convincing that a bunch of truckers actually tried to stop come in and get a meal, and the producers had to put some signs and, announcements in the papers to keep truckers from continuing to show up.

If you're a trucker and you see a thing called the Dixie Boy, of course, you're gonna stop. I don't know why you wouldn't. It's a fucking truck stop. Yeah. Why didn't they do it on a back lot?

I don't know. Yeah. I don't I don't know either. I don't know either because it's a more controllable they had to have shut down miles of freeway Yeah. At points in time to shoot this movie.

And I guess they needed to destroy this truck stop. That was, I guess, the most important thing about it. It went so far as it was announced on the local news. Do not go there. It's not what you think that it is or wish that it was.

See, that's fun news. That's fun news from the eighties when you had to go on TV and just be like, hey, guys. There's a bunch of truckers getting lost at this film set. Don't go there. Like, I miss news like that.

I I I mean I'd like a I'm sure there's not much else happening in Wilmington, North Carolina, so they probably just were like, fuck it. We're gonna go anyway. If you need a hand job, there's a rest stop four miles north. Trucks. Ask ask for Armando.

Ask for Armando. Ask for Armando. Armando. Trucks. Alright.

Last one. Last one. This we saved the best for last. So the there's a scene that involves a lawnmower going berserk as one does in a movie where the machines go haywire. It struck a wood block firing hundreds of splinters, and one got into the right eye of DP Armando Nannuzzi.

And I I dug a little bit deeper, and it seems like they saw the problem. Somebody was like, we should probably not put blades in that mower, or we should do something about it. And Stephen King It's your choice. High on cocaine kept saying Yes. Let's do it.

We want this to look authentic. And Armando was like generation. No. It's not even in the shot, Stephen. Like, we don't need this.

And he's like, no. Trust me. It'll be okay. Fast forward, he's struck in the eye with a splinter, rushed to the hospital, filming halts for two weeks. The doctors were like, you're gonna recover.

Everything's gonna be fine. Ended up getting an infection, lost an eye, and eventually sued Stephen King and Dino for 18,000,000 in damages. Like Oh. In terms of stories that come out of film sets, which, Ben, I'm sure you you being on a film set, like, that is one of the craziest stories I've heard coming out of a, like, a behind the scenes film situation. Then also, what the fuck?

Like, take what what what do we do? Bad. What kind of maniac doesn't say, just take the blade out? Oh, someone who is not in control of most of their faculties. Yeah.

And, Paul, we know from David Park, you can make safe Utah. Fake lawnmowers. Give me two. Former guest of this podcast, David Park, has a great story about his father and the connection to the Point Break lawnmower. It is pretty awesome.

Go back and listen to that, folks. How do you help me go? And that's the end of the fun facts, boys. I think the last one may be a little less fun than the others, but Yeah. But it is a fact nonetheless.

It's a fact. Ben? Nope. You got it. Do you have a question for Eric?

Nope. Nope. Paul, it's you. Oh, interesting. Eric, you brought this movie to us.

Mhmm. You are a high school English and drama teacher. Mhmm. You can give me the three to five sentence log line elevator pitch of this movie if it's even that long. Assuredly, you that's not a tough that's a nice question for me to add.

What a pleasant question. You're welcome. Can I get your logline to this movie? The logline to this movie, there's a comet. The machines are like, no, we're not a fan of that, and they decide to go haywire and revolt against society.

But luckily, our hero in all caps, Emilio Estevez, Bill, saves the day through rocket launchers and, teamwork and friendship. True or false? Emilio does have several heroic acts in this movie? Several. If you were if you were Brett, Brett makes sure the audience is aware of how much of a hero Emilio Estevez is by subtly saying to him, only a hero would do that, or you're something of a hero, aren't you?

And that's how you know. This podcast was great until everything went in a maximum overdrive. Hey, I really enjoy your log line, Eric. The actual log line. A group of people try to survive when machines start to come alive and become homicidal.

Trucks. It's like it's like everything in this movie is written for the lowest common denominator. Like, that log line is yeah. You know, it's people surviving machines that kill you. Yeah.

It does leave open are the UFOs involved. Is it a comet? Is there something in the tail of the comet? Is that is it more complicated? But the movie is so shitty at two end.

I'm getting I'm getting ahead of myself because I have so many questions about this UFO. It's a broom it's a broom, man. Really? It's a broom. Sweeping us up.

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Yeah. Look at you, big boy. I felt big in it. You've never looked better. You've never looked bigger.

I but I looked I looked for Armando. Couldn't find him. But we are now gonna we are now gonna play This man lost a fucking eye for this. He's dead. I, For this.

I'll tell you this for I didn't say it at the top, but he actually, like he sued Stephen King because he said that no one would hire him anymore because he lost his depth perception. Yeah. Who would hire a cinematographer without depth perception? It was just awful. Yeah.

It's awful. So we're gonna play a round of cinephile. What is cinephile? It is a card game that has an actor on it as well as a movie title. Eric, I'll show you the card, and you just read what's on the card.

Just say the actor's name and then say the movie. Paul will then have to say a movie that actor's in. I will have to say a movie that actor's in. We'll just go around until one of us doesn't get one. I'm so I'm so stressed.

There's so much pressure. It's alright. You know what? There'll be an easy one that I will fumble. Paul will say the wrong title of a movie.

Shit happened. So, no no pressure at all. Just tell me when to stop. Stop. Alright.

I'm gonna look away. So the actor is David Bowie, and the movie is The Man Who Fell to Earth. Paul. The Prestige. Labyrinth.

Zoolander. The Hunger. Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me. I'm tapped. It's a tough one.

Oh, boy. That is a tough one. Eric, so now go ahead and tell us your first experience with the movie Maximum Overdrive, your rating out of five, and then your current viewing and your rate current rating out of five. I oh, I've only seen this movie twice. This so I watched it today, and I'd only seen it one time previous to deciding on this as an episode.

And the first time I watched it, I gave it 1.5 deadly Coke cans out of five. That's Coca Cola, not cocaine because, you know, we get mixed up in this. And I I feel like I gave it kind of a low review. I loved I I think I loved this movie for the the vending machine scene. In my Letterboxd review, I wrote like a six paragraph opus Okay.

Just about how much I love that scene. And then the rest of the movie, I was like barely You lost two followers, Eric. You lost two I'm just kidding. Oh, boy. And so the first time I watched it, I was just like, I remember loving that scene and then the rest of the movie I was like, well, it didn't sort of stick with me in the best way.

Coming back to it, I think because of the research looking into it, because I knew we were talking about it and doing more of a deep dive into Stephen King and the sort of backstory. I have more of an appreciation for this movie. Definitely not 1.5. I would give it maybe two and a half to three deadly coke cans out of five now. Just for the zaniness of it, but I do think that it is at times a absurd stupid dumb movie that sort of doesn't make sense.

And a lot of those deadly coke cans, the three that I mentioned in my three out of five, are the ones that hit the coach. One in the nuts, one in the chest, and one in the skull. So those are where the three cans come from. So you're telling me that Coke machine was able to travel a 100 miles per hour? Like, those those things are going at least a 100 miles per hour.

Zoom in. One forty. If you look if you look closely, because I did I I paused it. Inside the coat, there there's, like, little cylinders, and you could see the sort of projectile they set up inside there for the the Coke cans to shoot out. It it's a contraption they created.

The practical stuff that is done in this movie and the craftsmanship deserves a shitload of credit. Also, whoever's decision, Stephen King, I don't know, the decision to have the coach get hit in the balls, have one of the kids laugh at it. I think they they put in a boink sound effect. I think you can hear a boink when it hits him, and it's it's it's what cinema Oh. Man gets hit in the groin with a coke can.

Man gets hit in the groin with a coke can. It's pure cinema. This was a VHS jacket that constantly caught my attention all the time, even as a man that is retired, that has already gone through his corporate life, that has already reinvested his wealth in his seventies. But I am also only but 15 years old now. But I saw this movie four times, probably in a weekend.

I was, like, obsessed with it. I think it just has this very colorful, loud, energetic thing that's happening. Especially the first, like, eighteen or twenty minutes of this movie is just like, let's fucking rock and roll. Like, for a lot of it or at least it kinda feels like that still now. So I would have given this five green gap gabbling trucks at that point.

I couldn't get enough of this movie. Seen it a few other times in life is, like, on a background. I would I would have rated this movie like a two with a heart. One of those movies, like, this ain't some great movie, but this is a movie that is like fun and rewatchable. What a different experience I had yesterday.

I did not expect to sit down and really watch this movie and for a lot of it wanting to look at my phone, wanting to do something on a different screen, to go outside, to breathe just clean non cocaine air, or some just something or anything else. Smoovie is an an hour and thirty eight minutes. Bullshit. This movie is an eight part Stephen King TV adaptation that fucking took my whole fucking day. The movie felt like it took a really fucking long time after that.

Is this four acts in an epilogue? It doesn't matter. Is it two? Is it three? I don't know what the fuck is happening.

So ultimately, I give this one and a half loads of joy. No heart. That's it. You can hear my cat scooping right now. That's not by design.

This is just happening. She just happens to be using the litter box. One and a half loads of joy. That's, like, the hardest thing I think in growing up is, like, rewatching those timeless classics and just being, like, damn. I watched this how many times when I was growing up.

It's it's a tough feeling. And the thought of what our idea of what timeless classics are or were are sometimes difficult timeless mean? This is an authority on time here, folks. I had, I had never seen this movie. Guessed it.

Knew it. Had a feeling. I I had heard of it through the grapevines of movie, you know, and knew that Stephen King directed it. Well, I watched this movie a couple nights ago. I no.

Actually, one of my watch yeah. Watched on Tubi. I didn't realize going into this that it was a comedy. And whether that's intentional or not, obviously, I don't think it is for the most part. I know Paul knows this.

I'm not one to, laugh out loud by myself while I watch movies. I tend to, like, maybe if I'm in the theater or watching with other people. I laughed out loud quite a bit during this movie, and that was something like, I wrote down a bunch of these lines that I found not purposely funny, but very funny. One of my questions is do when people die, do they just fall out of their shoes? Is that a thing?

Yeah. When they say, like, cards. And unintentional camp that totally that totally is fucking insane. Like, I guess when people die, you just you just fall out of your shoes. You got hit so hard by that truck.

It hit you so precisely. It launched you out of your fucking shoes. Like, it's like, oh, okay. Yes. Got it.

I I had original my original rating was gonna be flying watermelons, but that was way too early for me to make that decision. Phone. I love the angle. Yeah. And, also, it's supposed to look kinda like blood or gore, but it's just watermelons.

They're just flying through. It works. And then you also have, like, motorcyclists who are flying. How does that first motorcyclist fall off the bridge? Is isn't the bridge going this way?

Aren't they going backwards? Why is he falling off the front of the bridge? What is your rating before we talk too much about the movie? It's, two steamroller kids. I know there's only one steamroller kid, but there are things that I like about this movie.

As we start Dark dumb movie. Dark dumb movie. And now, our feature presentation. I am mountain high. I'm walking in here with the De Laurentiis logo and space and these title cards.

It explains the whole, like, comet situation. Alright. You're giving me everything kinda upfront here in some sort of Star Wars y style. Great. Transformers have come to Earth.

So forget about it, dude. Chasing There's Trump's ATM. This Optimus Prime just called me an asshole. Sugar buns. Sugar buns.

Get over here. This is ATM. Stephen King had to throw himself as, like, the first actor you see. Yeah. It's Hitchcockian.

Very Hitchcockian of director Stephen King. Director makes an appearance. And that Cokeian. You know what I mean? Correct.

Cokeian. Yeah. Who made who comes on, and the audio mix of this, I'm sitting listening to this in balance 5.1, and I'm like, this sounds weird. Because the music keeps changing the layer of how much it's, like, echoing with trucks going over and under it, and it sounds very solid, and then it sounds very tingy, and, like, the whole thing just the mix is just very super weird if you're watching this digitally at home. Oh, yeah.

The movie looks like absolute garbage. Oh, it's bad. It's bad. Nice fucking model. Yeah.

The the yeah. The DP was missing an eye, so it doesn't really it's not surprising. Also, like, setting it in North Carolina, it just looks like a barf version. Like, it just looks like not it's beige. It's brown.

It just looks the beige tinge on everything. Bad. It doesn't look like I need to yellowy. I need to take a shower. It's like battleground piss myth.

And then yeah. Include the, like, music, the guitar riffs in the background, and it just really feels good. The movie, it's like music, ACDC. Here's our logo as these machines are working themselves. And that's like fun in whatever ways.

These Yokels are clearly like, you idiot, playing this game and everything. The bridge does the self lift and the truck driver, instead of getting out of the truck, is like, gotta save the truck or I'd maybe if I I can move this truck. What's what's the logic is this guy drops here? Is Is that a miniature though? When we when we see the bridge Maybe.

From afar and see things coming out. Wondering how many full size vehicles had to be, like, dredged out of bodies of water and stuff because of this movie. They they they crawled out themselves all day. They just And just walked down. And it's pretty bloodless too.

Like, if you fall off the bridge, the water is not that far. Like, you just fall in the water, like, okay, I'll swim to shore. There's no Right. Horror there. There's no risk or stakes.

You're just like, oh, I'm wet now. This kinda ruins my day a little bit. I mean, it's more dangerous the lifting and the falling on their hand. Falling from your car into another car 40 feet back that pins you in between another car. Didn't know at any moment when they were shooting that what the grav where they were gravity wise because they were shooting it and someone get out of the car and run.

I'm like, wait a minute. Isn't the physics, like, physics are way off. Right now? What's happening? Watermelon's fucking flying everywhere.

The ACDC fans are dead. And the thing with the ACDC music, because they did all the music for this, and I guess Stephen King was the music supervisor needle dropping at whatever points were preferred. But whenever something scary happens, it's just like a guitar. It's just like The king the king of horror the king of horror uses guitar riffs in his horror movie. What a genius idea.

Oh my god. Scared the hell out of me. When do we get to the after that, then do we meet the green goblin? I think we meet the green goblin pretty much as soon as after the bridge scene. At the Dixie Moonwood.

The truck the truck stop. The is the game room spot is that in the truck stop? Oh, it's right after that. We gotta talk we gotta talk about the game room. It's truck stop.

You meet Frankie Faizon, the big mean truck with the green goblin on the front, and then you're in the arcade with Giancarlo Esposito. Oh. Uncredited. Uncredited role. Yes.

Is he because he's the one that just says your mama in the game room. Yeah. It is. Spit in coffees and cigarettes at it. That was the moment that I just laughed.

I because he just looks at a machine running and goes, your mama. And then that's it. That's all that happened. Oh my god. Genius.

I didn't know that was him. That's great. And it's like, who made you mean you? You mean me? Who made it?

You what? Goddamn it. And the machine got so confused by its own musical logic. It's even the gas burp that happens here. Like, the gas looks like chunky fucking gray mud.

And and it's like gas looks more like water closer to, you know, piss meth. Like Yeah. When the gas when the gas ex when it explodes out of the hose while the guy has his eye directly onto it foreshadowing to what happened to the DP Oh, no. It comes out, like, chunky. And it's like I wrote down it's like worst gas station etiquette since Zoolander.

It's just nobody should be doing that sort of gas station stuff Right. Pointing it at their face. It's just They died in a freak gasoline fight accident. Yeah. One one was orange mocha frappuccinos, and the other one was cookies and cream frappuccinos, which was this movie.

Billy It's just two totally what? Billy will get to it. I promise. Got it. He's a cool dude.

Yeah. Leave it alone. The this is what I'm thinking, though, is the movie the knife attacks the waitress after we find out, you know, Emilio's on parole. Okay. And he's being exploited.

And also, like, we quickly learn that, like, everyone in this movie is just a misogynist asshole except for maybe Emilio Estevez. Maybe. But, like, everyone is just so mean to this waitress. It's bad. The who's the one dude who goes and relieves Brett for the gas pouring?

It's like there are a couple people, the little boy. It's like there are a couple people that seem like not all around terrible or crazy. Giancarlo gets killed because the machine didn't, like, him talking about the Atari 2,600 or whatever the fuck that Yeah. So the machines can hear and understand English. But what what constitutes a machine?

That's where you guys are. Doesn't know. You can't you that's the word because I Paul, I've had that same thought throughout this whole movie, and if you go down that rabbit hole, everything loses its logic. Because the electricity goes in and out, the TV's on, the radio's off, there's no rhyme or reason to the things going off and on in this movie. It's whatever the plot needs.

So so this is basically the happening What? Before the happening. I broke No. It's there was so much happening codedness in this movie. Like, the kid on the bike with all the random bodies.

I'm like, this is m night Shyamalan's inspiration for what is happening, and the answer was maximum overdrive. Woah. I thought the missed trucks. He was like, what if trucks were plants? And and then that was the movie.

What if trucks were aliens and that was or interdimensional beings that was the I mean, I like watching this. I was like, I would rather watch killer clowns from outer space. A 100%. Oh my god. Movie.

And I thought it was times out of a 100. But that's like trying this feels like it's like trying to be in that same pocket. It's not, though. Yeah. Comedy.

I don't I don't disagree with you. Yeah. It's not on the same level, but it feels like it's trying to live in the same world pocket. I think you're right. You you talk about, like, the opening too with Emilio, and there's sort of, like, a deep theme of there's this bad boss and he's taking advantage of all these people.

You don't usually get deep themes in fun campy movies, so it sort of sticks out like a sore a sore thumb and then it never comes back to it again. It's never brought up. It's never really a thing. It's just this introduction and then we just know Hendershot is a bit of a scumbag, and that's what we use for the rest of the movie. And I guess, like and it compounds and compounds and compounds at every opportunity to make this guy shittier.

And I guess we're supposed to be frothing for this guy to get it. Like, part of the way it does it is the movie right now is still just like it's just killing people. It kills this coach randomly. We said, like, nuts chest head, Kill some kids. The kid gets run over with a fucking steamroller as Ben had mentioned.

He loves his, little league games in his, Doctor Sleep. There's the little league game. Yep. Yeah. I mean, they're yeah.

Like, the steamroller kid, the way that it cuts to this very clearly, like, mannequin thing that it's running over is very funny to me. Yeah. There was there was one other one other one other fact that I saw too is I think they tried to put, like, a blood bag for, like, practical effect of the steamroller. And then when it went over, it exploded more than they expected, and blood went everywhere, and then the MPAA wouldn't let them use it. So there's footage of just the steamroller going over this child and blood exploding all over the body, all over the steamroller.

But they were like, no, that's too much. So and I I want because I I read that before I watched, so I was like, okay, how did it end up turning out? And it's literally steamroller, kid, cutaway, we never see it again. True or false, that makes this movie better because it makes it more intentionally campy if it has that. I think it makes the movie better.

It's interesting that Stephen King is always willing to part of the horror that is leaned on, I think, is the willingness to kill children and animals as we see in this The dog with the the Correct. Yeah. Did this remote control toy kill him, the dog? Yeah. Like, the and that's the thing that doesn't cars don't kill people.

The and this is a representation of a car, but, like, it killed this Who's this woman that Deacon, the kid who's playing baseball and escapes sees in this window where he stops and he's like, such a shame. Was it his sister, his mom, his neighbor, his, like, what why I think you just thought that she was hot. Beautiful youth. What about the married couple? The really weird or, like, freshly married couple?

And Oh, Connie. Connie and Curtis. Connie and Kurt. Yeah. Lisa Milhouse.

She's like, I need to stop and use the bathroom. And he says, can I come in and watch? Yeah. And she's like, no. I was like, wait.

What? Why is that line in this movie? This movie is horny as hell, like, in a weird way. Horny. Because we sorta I think Connie and Curtis come in after the bible salesman Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

In the front seat. Right? Also horny. Also, constant hand on the thigh and just has some weird, aspirations for her. But then, yeah, Connie and Curtis, like, jump to Connie, the Yearly Smith, Lisa Simpson, probably the most annoying character in this movie by a mile.

But very intentionally. Intentionally, yes. Yes. Like, to the point where you hate her more than Hendershot, the boss, who literally lights a cigar and tells a kid his dad is dead. There's Oh, yeah.

Something off about Connie. The there is a a deep push about it. I disagree where it's like I hate Hendershot more. I find it I'm not following. Funny at a point where she's being annoying or is being directed to be annoying and a character is just like impervious like I don't care whatever this this too shall pass and I kinda do that more so I guess.

I I don't know if I get satisfaction at many points in this movie other than when Brett says eat my shorts, and then it, like, cuts to Yardley Smith. Like, where it's like, oh, was this just like proto Bart and Lisa? This is so I get so much satisfaction. And the and that's a very personal thing. Right?

But it goes into this thing with the bible salesman who's such a creep and, like, the the run over attempt. And all this stuff is so thick, like, all these people seem so thick already. It's clear that these machines are doing this. This has been brought up on the radio, and Brett kind of mentions it. Did you hear the guy on the radio?

The thing that feels it feels like this is what AI would give you if you said, like, give me give me a Stephen King story that's made for dummies or something. Because it feels it doesn't, like, it doesn't feel as deep or, like, there there's nothing in this that feels as true as his other work, which maybe that's a lot to do with his challenges with addiction at this time. I don't know. I took a a USB c like flash drive, like a terabyte sized one, hollowed out the inside, poured cocaine and it sealed it, poured it in, and this is what I got. Didn't mean Yeah.

Of course. Came out. I said AI, use this as fuel for your movie film. Okay. Did you hear they're making a remake of this called Waymo's?

No. I'm just kidding. Man. No. When Waymo's revenge?

This is also, like, where I guess it's, like, does everybody feel it's the ominous music where the goblin truck is, like, spying on the the cute romance that's happening? Yeah. And it's trying to do a lot of stuff through music and angles. I do, and I I I noticed a lot, like, there is something about that goblet, like, the back. There's a clown face on the back of that truck.

Mhmm. And I think this movie definitely lacks haunting imagery, anything scary, anything spooky because it is more Yeah. Camp. But I just remember looking at that face and I'm just like, there's an image there that if played with the right light, with the right angle, with the right music, there's something because I I look closely at it. It kinda gave It, like the the clown from It, and there's actually tears coming out of the clown's face, and there's something cool about it, but it's never used as it's just a prop to show that this truck has something of a personality, and that's pretty much it.

It never goes beyond that when Yeah. Geek had something there, but just didn't really use it. There are so many missed opportunities. I feel like they introduced the ice cream truck, and I feel like it's, you know, it's playing this creepy version of King of the Road. And I feel like that's an opportunity too.

This thing that's usually, like, what kids wanna chase and they love and use these creepy songs that could play it. Like that could be your main villain thing and it's just not. It's like discarded pretty quickly and then comes back but mostly not there. Have it show up in the middle with Deacon as he's like, you know, have it do something. That's the thing is, like, we've reviewed movies on this where something comes up early in a movie, and then we get to the end of the movie, and it doesn't there's no real actual payoff.

And that's how I feel with that ice cream truck thing. It's even playing king of the road. Yeah. Like and it's, like, amongst all these fucking huge trucks and everything. And the big move that this movie has is turn on the red lights for the eyes, for the truck.

Or That's, like, that's the move. Bring in a small like, not even bring in a tank. Bring in a tiny little military vehicle with a gun on it. One gun? One gun.

Yeah. One m 60 that can easily be just tapped to go out of it. You you could throw a cinder block at the gun, knock the gun down, and look at that. You've conquered the villain. It's not really an ominous threat at all.

I mean, you know, when we start pulling these threads, it's easy because you're because you're just like, why don't the trucks just run over the truck stop? What is what is happening? That was my one thought. That was my Ben, that was, like, my most annoying pet peeve is just, like, the truck would drive towards the truck spot the truck stop, but then stop, and then you just know it's gonna be going in there later on. And I'm just like, it could just run through, kill all these people, movies, or whatever.

I mean, and that's where you get to the Paul, and we were talking about gremlins, and they're and we were like, wait. How much of our technology do they understand? In this, it's like these aliens that take over these vehicles or whatever. Like, they understand they need gas? What is their goal here?

Are they just trying to exterminate all humans? What is happening? Is there an alien presence? In my fucking mind? Is there an alien presence, I e, Independence Day that's, like, this hive mind that's collecting and transmit but that's the thing is it doesn't go over fucking any of that stuff.

Until the very end of the day. We get the thing on the thing. It's like there was a UFO thing, and and then there was a thing that shot it that could take it down. And I'm like, okay. Why don't they just if they can take over machines, why aren't they just launching nukes?

Why what what are what are we Right. And the thing is I think it tries to lean on is things that have electronic, components in them where it's like, you know, a a sprinkler is a machine, but it's not electronic. But then it says it apparently can take over a sprinkler as well as a plane, but it can't take over a car, but it can take over a remote control car. None of it makes any fucking sense. Duncan is the first character that we lose.

The dad who sprayed himself in the eyes. And his eyes were fucked. Oh my god. You see his eyes? They look so gross.

He died the way that Austin Powers guy died where he's like, no. Like, he was so fucked up. Exactly. Yeah. He he could've Why?

Stop. Move. Move out of the way. No. Go.

I remember that part right before Duncan died because Hendershot kept giving him the business because I think Duncan wanted to go check on his kid. And Hendershot's just like, you gotta clock out, bud. You're not clocking out. I have you in this job for another six hours, my friends. You're not going anywhere.

And I'm like, buddy, there it's the apocalypse. The machines are rising. Let the guy go to his kid. Come on, Hendershot. This is when everybody starts kinda putting it together.

There's such a random cut right here that bothers me where it just cuts back to the bathroom where Brett and Bill are talking, and she's like, okay. And I I'm like, what was the context of that? Like, show me the context of that fucking conversation as these trucks are also mobilizing. And it seems like a lot is happening. But after that first, like, eighteen or twenty minutes, it's a lot of, like, waiting for circling trucks.

And and also, what's the story of the big truck? Why doesn't the big truck have a story? You know? All this to me, all of this is like Dawn of the Dead or or The Mist where it's like, he just wanted to tell a story about these group of pea this group of people who are trapped. That's at the core what he wanted to tell a story about.

For some reason, the circumstances of this movie became so fucking stupid. Me? You know, of this story because like Cocaine. Zombies are stupid but it doesn't it doesn't we don't sit here and take apart all of the fucking logistics of zombies. In zombies like Dawn of the Dead or In the Mist, I think it does a much better job of saying, look how quickly we fall apart.

Look how quickly we Yeah. Will give up hope. Mhmm. Or logic goes out the window. And this movie doesn't make you really feel any of that.

Like the Curtin Connie truck chase that happens here and the truck just explodes. I mean, there's a firestorm. I love a firestorm. Don't get me wrong. You're a fire starter?

Twisted fire starter. Okay. There's a lot of fire in this movie. There's a lot of explosions. If you like explosions Yeah.

And cool, like, car stunts and stuff like that. Michael Bay loves this movie. Do Ever done anything dangerous? When we get the is this the first Emilio heroic act where Kurt and Connie shoot the gap? I kinda like Kurt.

I don't dislike Kurt. I like I wrote down Kurt as a fucking rock star because his driving is impressive. And I remember I he's he's that mix of both, like, he's an unexpected hero. He's trying to be mighty with his wife. And I remember just being like, he does the big escape maneuver.

I wrote down he's a rock star. And then this guy literally says, as I wrote down rock star, I think I just loaded in my pants. And I'm like, that's that's Curtis. That's Curtis for you. He's because as I'm jumping ahead.

I'm jumping ahead. No. I'm not taking back my statement. I'm not taking it back. He gets some comedic lines.

He's a hero. He goes out with he goes out with Bill to save the day. He has, like he's sort of the he's the sidekick. He's like the sec he's the, if it's Lethal Weapon, it's he's Danny Glover and Bill is Mel Gibson. Like, these guys kinda work together as tandem.

I like Kurt. I I thought he was he's the real hero of the movie. Are we did we get to the part where the bible salesman's suitcase got ran over? He didn't get hit yet, but his suitcase got hit. I think we did.

I think that's, like, happening right about here either way. He loses issues. A quick anecdote. I was on a, I was on a trip when I was, like, six maybe with my uncle Curtis, and he ran over my suitcase, and I still have a very strong visual of watching my, Mickey Mouse underwear hang on the on the wheel well. That's the thing that happened to me.

Is that a thing? I'm gonna say it. I'll say it. Ben, that image you just created is more impactful in my brain than any image I saw on this movie. So well done.

That's just that's I like that. I wanna see that. I got a pitch then for, Trucks sequel. You can hitch you can hitch a ride down to Florida on a truck that's waving those things like a flag or whatever. I I it's so funny to me the the moments that this movie tries to have character moments or character depth and how it never like, there's no actual I mean connection or anything really happening when when Brett goes over what she was doing Yeah.

And says, I was hitching down to Florida. That's what I was doing before every machine in the world went into maximum overdrive. It's like, was that a fucking reshoot? That's literally what I wrote. That's literally what I wrote.

Is she the worst actor we've ever seen? Yeah. What? There's before she does the maximum overdrive, by the way, I love when a movie says the title in the worst way possible. It makes me smile.

Like, in the meetup that she has with Bill when the sort of romantic interest situation starts up, she has lines like, I think she walks up. She's like, vroom vroom. And you're cute. And then Yeah. Okay.

Like, she's delivering these monosyllabic one, like, line things to him to sort of establish that their connection. And I almost like, the amount of times she calls him a fucking hero is insane. The heroic energy, like, you know, you're something of a hero. Like, I was losing it. I couldn't I I agree with you on Brett.

She is not not doing her best work. I mean, the script's not doing anything for her. No. Of course not. No.

Yeah. No. The actor Laura Harrington is not doing much of anything. She she gets one actual, I think, opportunity here after the the gun running discovery, and her and Emilio do it, and they're playing footsies. And she puts together what's it's gotta be this comet, that whole thing.

Oh, yeah. That feels like it it was a first take or some something along those lines. And we also consider who's running the show. When we get to the bathroom and we just have these poop sounds that are happening while that dude the, like, gas station attendant dude is, like, taking a shit. And and he's reading High Society, a gentleman's pornography magazine.

Oh, yeah. I I did write there is there is porn wallpaper at work here. So you can have a little bit of porn on your wall at work. You can. You can.

That wasn't that wasn't a little bit of porn on the wall. That was not a little bit. That wall was covered head to toe with full nudity, a lot of it. It was They had to use no tape, no glue to keep that Just loads. Just loads.

Just loads. Loads. Give me two. Yeah. I this is when I wrote, are we sure this isn't supposed to be a comedy?

Question mark. I think it's just can't juggle the tones. I think there's intentional and unintentional camp. I agree with you. Everything you're questioning adds up to me.

It's making me feel like everything I'm thinking is in the 1.5 is making sense. Yeah. And this is where the movie just kinda like starts to all blend together to me. Mhmm. This I wrote like why don't they just run-in the gas station, blow it up, crash?

What is happening? Why don't they use the water heater? Are they worried about ruining the trucks? I'm so confused. What what is their what do they want?

They also conveniently have a stockpile of weapons. They have rocket launchers. They have guns. They have all of this stuff that is like because he's a proper Yeah. He's a he's gotta be a prepper.

Like, he's got that energy. He's a shady guy. But the annoying part of this movie is it's he takes out the rocket launcher when it's appropriate. They could just keep rocket launching every single one of those trucks to high heavens, but they do it once or twice, then it's like, damn. Now what do we do?

Back to the truck stop while they circle around us. They have the firepower to do everything because they have the ability to stop the threat. They just don't do it. You can sink the pink here. I mean, that song is definitely about eating pussy and fucking, by the way.

I mean, which is most ACDC songs. But they could go out there and literally annihilate these things even with the logic of this movie. A lot of things just with machine guns And these Are those machines? What the the vehicle that the m 60 is on, that is mechanical, but it is not electronic. That is not electronic vehicle.

No. So that's the thing I just don't get. I I will say in terms of the acting? No. That's the one.

That's the one thing I don't get. The thing that I do really get, the fucking freak out by the waitress here. Oh. We made you. It's tough fucking tears, dude.

So funny. The lights go out, and she just has had it. And it's just like, we And everyone for how long does it take people to crack under the pressure of this situation? Can anybody guess about how long that is? Couple hours.

It's been yeah. I don't even think it's been a full day yet, and she's I feel like she was gonna crack she was gonna crack ten minutes into her shift regardless of She had to make the fucking eggs. Yeah. Man, did you see I I don't know if you guys ever worked in the service industry, but I did. I as a as somebody who had to cook breakfast, the situation she had on her grill was the scary the scariest part of this movie.

Like, the amount of like, she cracks an egg on the pile of grits and hash browns and just starts swirling it. And I think I wrote down her line. She's like, I think I need a it's getting out of hand here is what she says. I'm like, that just speaks to the movie. It's like, that's that's true horror.

She went she went into the shift knowing she wasn't gonna survive it regardless of what. You. But yeah. I did write, we made you shot rocket launches explosion comedy timing gold. Like, it's She's She's not even going out with the rocket launcher to shoot it.

She's just holding it so that when she gets shot, it launches. And she delivers. She delivers. Like, she goes her whole body's gyrating with the lines. She's screaming.

She's at the top of her lungs, and She's going for it. She's going for it. Stephen King was like, here's a bump. If Now do the scene. And You got a question.

Go and it's just it's you can see it on camera. You can see it on camera. You're asking. Hey, Paul. Wanda June is her name.

Wanda June. She let Yeah. She's terrible transformers. Who let all these transformers in? It takes swings at trying to build these character and chemistry things, though.

Like, it's the power's out somehow, but everyone is having burgers and fries. People bring a sack lunch. I don't know. But it's it's fifty eight minutes into the movie, and I think this is the the longest it's tried to do character development of everyone, and it's, like, thirty seconds. It's, like, everyone should be talking and planning and working and, like, there's role should be getting defined for some of these folks who are in this.

And a lot of these, I don't know who these people fucking are. I think that's, like, the different because I read the short story Trucks, and there's only, like, four characters in there. I think the big problem, like, this is Stephen King's first directorial effort, there are so many characters going on, like you got a dozen people in this space and he's trying to do little drips and drabs of character development for everybody. You just walk away being like it's just a blob. Nobody really has anything.

They're very one dimensional. Nobody's unique and you're kinda, yeah, you wish especially between Bill and Brett, focus more on their chemistry, their stuff, and then maybe we care about their more heroic moments at the end of the movie. It feels like the movie doesn't ever really know what it wants to be about. I mean, it feels like it wants to be about these people, but then, like, the trucks want, gas, and they're like, you you know, they're gonna threaten them by saying, like, you come out here and give us gas, and we'll let you live. The she like Brett's like, no.

This is like giving up to the Nazis or something. And I'm like, what do they want? What do the fucking trucks want? What are we You got a gas leak. Doing?

Like, I don't know what they want at any given moment. They're gonna have to fill up with gas again. I and then if they can control the controllers on a fucking bulldozer or a truck, why can't they control filling themselves with gas? That's a machine. That has electronic.

I have so many I'm I'm The the kid who was the baseball player, Duncan's kid goes through the sewers. Oh, yeah. And all these people are are like Deac. Yeah. They're going for it.

For those about to rock out, for the a needle drop of those about to rock you, which that's the thing the movie tries to be really lean on is a lot of these ACDC needle drops. I think I was a lot more excited about these when I was young than I am now, but I I would like to see Kurt and Billy in a Ghostbusters or Bigfoot hunting situation type movie or whatever. Mhmm. That would be kinda cool. But the the bible salesman is alive, and He's like, I'm not ready yet.

Find Jesus, I'll kill you. Find Jesus, I'll kill you. Threatens a child. Coach Bombay will not leave a child behind, and he comes to the rescue and escapes with the with Duncan's kid. Yeah.

And they just tell him straight up, your dad's dead. With a cigar in his mouth. He's smoking a cigar. He's like, your dad's dead, kid. He's gone.

I I also love that they talk to this green goblin truck. Like, they talk to its face. Like, they're actually like Yes. This is a fake truck with a fake face, and they're talking to its face like it's the thing that's gonna register their face. I don't know.

He looks at the ring goblin and says, got that fuck face. And I was like, I got the best uncut shit on the East Coast, motherfucker. Like, he's he's offering him cocaine, like, bring all your friends. And This is one of those movies where I I think the kid actor does some stuff with this, but, also, this is somebody who is a child who's working with a person again who is not working with many of their faculties and doesn't have a lot to do in terms of this writing. But this is one of the kid performances that I'm like, whenever the kids do it.

And I feel that a lot in this movie. Just whenever many people are doing almost anything, I'm like, and even now truck reinforcements arrive. Like, every Autobot and Decepticon is here. They've reached out to each other through the fucking mega crystal or whatever the fuck is going on, And now Bubba loses it. That's the thing that keeps happening.

People keep cracking under the pressure of being in this gas station for sixteen hours. Yeah. They lose their fucking minds. That's what the that's what the movie wants to be about. Right?

It wants to be a Twilight Zone episode of, like, real monsters or men. But it goes into this fucking it goes into maximum overdrive and starts being about fucking trucks. I think that the hardest part that I dealt with, I think, on both watches of this movie, the Hell's Bells is playing, and it's like, we watch a bunch of people pump gas for, like, fourteen minutes. And it's like, that's the sort of dramatic arc. Like, it felt so long watching these characters just do it.

And I think we're meant to believe there's fumes. Like, you probably would get a little high, a little tired. Like, Emilio Estevez, you see it in his hands and his face. He's exhausted. He's the only one.

He's the only one. Yep. And then they eventually come out and kinda give give him the that they tag him out so that somebody else does it. But it's painful to watch a movie where your second to third act, connecting point is literally just watching people punk ass. Well, this kind of weirdly placed Hell's Bells plays over top of it.

It's this very big music and it's just like, alright. Next truck. Next truck. You would think that would use that as, oh, while they're filling gas, this will be our opportunity to plan to blow them up or whatever. But there's nothing else happening.

They're just filling them up with gas, and it's like this motivational montage. And the machines can listen to them, but they openly talk about everything that they may want to do in front of the machines, and somehow it's successful. Sometimes they hear, sometimes they don't hear. Yeah. And you're waiting for, I'm waiting for, Bubba.

We gotta get Bubba Hendershot to die. That's what I want that death blow. Let's go blow this go blow. And the the cut is so bad Whatever. Of the m 60 truck shooting him, and the blood pack like, it looks like somebody just spattered blood on him, and a bunch of these random people that I don't know get killed.

And there's no satisfaction to a lot of this. One of the lines we skipped that I loved from Emilio Lesavides is when they're going out there to save the Bible guy, and he the I understand just goes, you kids are crazy. And he just says, you, sir, are without a doubt one of the biggest fuckheads I've ever met in my life. And that's the entire line. And I just thought, yeah.

Sure. At this point, fuck it. Why not? Yeah. That's your attitude.

Fuck it. Fucking hell. Brought our most base. Wanda gets away with another. We made you.

She gets away with a couple of these. Only a couple. Right? And Emilio facing off with the the truck, like, after they fill up the gas and, like, one of them, like, comes at him. Yeah.

And it just keeps coming and he, like, Iceman top guns it, like, gets face to face with it is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. He's just yelling at it. What? What? I'm like, what do you what what do you But it is a heroic act.

It's heroic. Yeah. It's a heroic act. Yes. It's man versus machine.

Two man versus machines just staring each other down. Yeah. And the the Morse code here and that I think is the movie is basically trying to through that whole hell's bells thing in that montage is trying to say like this those of you that are spared will be the ones fueling the trucks for eternity or or is it a broom as Bill has put it together? Like, oh, they're taking over just trucks because trucks are are very bad and evil. They have evil souls, and they are susceptible to aliens taking them over, to sweep the planet clean and take it over.

So the machines that can apparently hear and no one's concerned about this or I don't know what the it's so confounding. They turn the power back on right when Billy says they need it and then says his whole plan out loud. He's like, okay. Got we got what we needed. Now, guys, here's what we do.

The machines and I made a silent pact that it's like, okay. Your move. We won't cheat. Like, what the fuck is happening? I like what you're saying about the yeah.

There's no rules. I think, like, to go a little bit deeper into the movie to give it a little bit of credit because the end of the short story talks a lot about, like, a world where machines run. Where, like, they kinda take over the environment. There's no more trees. They're replaced by pave ways.

And it's almost the sort of, like, the rise of technology, the fear of industrialization, and the idea of just, like, humans becoming slaves to these machines. And there's a little bit of that in this movie, and you can see Stephen King sort of being, like, there's some juice to squeeze from this idea. But and I think it comes up in that Morse code scene where it's, like, now we are under the command and control of these trucks. Right. We're gonna do what they say.

But aside from that, there's nothing else. There's literally it's like there's that hint of a theme from the the original Stephen King story. But after that, we we lose the thread. But because everything you just said had more depth than anything in this movie. As an English teacher, teacher, and this is what I do in Seinfeld podcast a lot, is I literally will just go I'll try to find some thread to follow.

There's a little bit. It's like Neville Chamberlain given into the Nazis. The historical references there. It's it's a very similar situation. Your take is untenable.

I it it I'm not that's not true. I think we we you thought we had the same take. I just wanna impress you. Just give me a good grade, please. Also Lisa Simpson here.

I just wanna pushing. I wanna pitch one thing, and I want Okay. If you guys can pitch it with me. Or how fast are you gonna pitch it? I'm gonna pitch it real fast.

100 and fast enough to fucking kill you. See, faster than those Coke cans. Let's go. Exactly. If you are putting up Emilio versus the semi in a boxing match, I am pitching that as mighty duck versus Mack truck.

Oh. Pretty good? The the marquee, I can see the marquee already in lights. It's it's beautiful. Yeah.

It's pretty good. Oh. Versus SUV? No. That's not rhyme.

Did they not have the flippy thing, by the way, for the gas handles to fuel the truck thing? No. I don't think so. Have you ever 86, they didn't have it. Yeah.

Have you ever stopped at, like, like, a bum fuck nowhere gas station where they still have, like, the gas pumps from Yeah. Like, eighties? They are real old school. Usually This thing was the dollars were less than the gallons by a good amount when it was racking up the dollars. I don't know.

But it's checkmate for the m 60 truck where Emilio apparently just can tap this. You could have probably just jumped on the back of the fucking thing and used it. Yeah. And it would have been, like, hey. Wait.

What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm in control now. I'm in control. Stop that.

What are you doing? I'll spin around. No. You can't That's what I mean. Like, they could have brought in tanks.

There's points where there's planes. I'm like, why don't they just use planes? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

They launched nukes. Took the planes. They could just launch the nukes and kill everyone on Earth and have it. Planes with weapons. I don't understand what's happening.

This one, Kamikaze is into a fucking school bus. So this movie is straight down. Straight down. Straight down. Yeah.

Right there. So They get right in there. You gotta get right next to me. To give this movie some credit, the trucks despite them mentioning the floor is too unstable, they'll hit the cellar before they can kill us. The truck say, fuck that.

We have cats now and all this stuff. We're gonna bring everything at them and kill these people. And the Dixie boy goes up like a fucking the the Hindenburg blimp the Hindenburg story as people are fucking escaping. That's gotta hurt. That's not funny.

I had to. I had to. I had to. Oh, so there's one I'm glad there's one Seinfeld fan in here. I'm I'm just so happy.

When There have been a lot of Seinfeld When they get the burger burger lean because they've escaped now Yeah. They say and it's, like, talking to them through the bird somehow talking to them. It's not like That was weird. It's not like the burger lean. Why is that the name of a restaurant, first off?

Off? It's awesome. It's so weird. It's not like it has a computer voice that takes orders. That's a person that talks through there.

So how is it talking to people? It becomes an out megaphone at, like, they go through this sewer tunnel under this tunnel thing, and they end up at this that fast food side. And the kid had his aggression is taken out on this fast food side, and then he's like, I'm good. I laughed so hard because after he shot at it, he goes, I don't want this anymore. I just hands the gun off.

That was no fun. Got it out of my system. I'm done. And I was like, yeah. Guns don't kill people.

Machines kill people. Stephen King apparently is very against robbing the dead. Oh, my that might be my favorite part. It's like we have the guy who's just like walking by. He's like, oh, what's that shiny glinting object over there?

The biggest engagement ring you've ever seen in your life. Yoink. I'm a take that. How many carrots was that fucking And then he gets fucking six. He gets He gets fucking pancaked.

Yeah. Bloods You can't have greed. He's a greedy character. Stephen King's like, you have greed. Now you're dead.

Adios motherfucker is the line that I I it's just a straight line. Adios motherfucker. And it's just one rocket could have taken out the electronic machine vehicle, mechanized engineering Optimus Prime leader. That's all it took. Good thing No big deal.

Good thing no boats are electric? Question mark. They there's so many car. That sailboat has a motor. Yeah.

And, also, it's convenient how I think he says, like, we're gonna go to this island. I think it's called Haven, and there's no technology allowed there whatsoever. It's like a decree of this island. No tech allowed whatsoever. Fucking Ponce De Leon.

But again find that? What are what are we talking about here? Missiles. These there's boats. Yes.

And when they when they get on the when they get on the sailboat and there he goes to untie it from the dock, he can't figure out the knot, so he cuts it. And I was like, you can't figure out a knot? How are you gonna run a sailboat? He says he knows how to run boats earlier in the movie. He says, look at how to boats.

Yeah. You have to know mother's helper. Tie and untie a knot to run a boat. Bare minimum. Eric?

Yeah. The idea of going to a boat and going to the island, isn't that is that Zack Snyder's dawn of the dead. Right? That's the exact same thing that they do? Absolutely.

Yeah. Yeah. And it does not go well for the dawn of the dead people, but we know the survivors of Haven were truly survivors. And if they could've just kept it together for, like, a few days That might be that might have been one of the stupidest codas I've ever read in my life where it's like the survivors were truly Hold on. Survivors.

I have to read the thing that was on the screen of you. Please. Please. Just do. I paused it.

I'm like, Yeah. Two days after, a large UFO was destroyed in space by a Russian weather satellite, which happened to be equipped with a laser cannon and class four nuclear missiles. Approximately six days later, the Earth passed beyond the tail of Rhea m exactly as predicted. The survivors of the Dixie Boy, pause, are still survivors, period. End of movie.

I just wanna say, the reason they couldn't control that electronic satellite at all is actually Optimus Prime. Just saying. This was one of those cases where I went, this is too much information and not enough information. It's it's also like, we don't need to know that a large UFO was destroyed in space by a Russian weather satellite, which happened to be equipped with laser cannon in class four nuclear missiles. Why is that important information?

The only only thing I can see is that because they had two theories in the movie. Bill had his theory and Brett had her theory, and I think this is the movie being like, they were both right. Both of them were right. It was both a comet and a UFO, and there's your movie. Everyone survived.

Like, I think it's just a weird, like, Stephen King writing trick. Like, actually, it was both things. Thank you. We're done. Like, he thought it was, like, a big reveal?

You didn't Like, is this a big reveal? Like, a like, Is is it Cocaine. I'm happy that Kurt survived, and I'm happy that Frankie Faizon survived. He seemed like a cool guy when he's like, must be one hell of a hot wire because I, like, he's like, I got the key like, he seems like a wise patient person. Like, there are, like, two characters in this movie that I'm like, great.

I'm so glad you made it. There we go. And they're still survivors, Paul. There's still survivors. There are others.

To this day. To this day, 2025, they're still surviving. I just don't know how there weren't electric boats. Dixie Boy. I I just there's a motor on the boat.

I, Why didn't, like, 530, like, remote control boats come after them? Submarines? You can't they're too secure. That's what we need to take away from this movie. Our defense network is absolutely solid.

It's impenetrable. Even aliens can't get us. New pitch. Maximum overdrive, but with Ethan Hunt from Mission Impossible. In, I'm in.

Sign me up. How much money do you need? I think that's pretty good. Imagine, like, Joseph Kosinski directed Maximum Overdrive. Like, think of the action sequences that could happen in this kind of movie.

That's like I think I think if you bring this to Tom Cruise right now, there's that's if this if this IP is allowed to be brought back I assume that De Laurentiis group still owns it. Emilio wrote a sequel to this during the height of the pandemic apparently and has talked about it. Emilio's take with Kosinski's directing and depending on who wanted to produce that, that's interesting. That's really fucking interesting. I would be interested in seeing a legacy sequel to Well, I mean depending on who's involved.

I've always said, like, remake or give us sequels to things that are bad. Like Yes. Like, give us a new attempt at something. Don't remake something that's already good because it's just gonna be worse. This would be an interesting thing.

Like, I feel the same thing about Waterworld where I'm like, give me an HBO series of Waterworld. I think there's something to mind in there. Well, but that Stephen King is so hot right now. I'm excited for The Running Man. We watched that for this program, and that was one of those movies that we were like, man, the modern take on this could be really something.

I also really wanna see the secret life of Chuck, which, Mike Flanagan's movie. That movie, I saw I I was able to see it in theaters. And it it's one of those, like, have you read the book? Are you familiar with the the story? Like I have the book, but I haven't read it.

Yeah. You walk away from it, and you it's a thinker. Like, you it kinda leaves you in your in your in your brain a little bit because the idea that can see it is so unlike anything I've seen from Stephen King or even Mike Flanagan. And I I really enjoyed it. I really liked it.

It was really Excellent. Introspective, really deep, and I think you guys I think you guys would like it. Is there anything that we did not go over about this movie that you'd like to say or mention? I'm gonna only say one thing because of the Simpsons fandom and I love how much you guys love the Simpsons. The last thing, when there when Connie is being, lowered down into the thing, she's having a conniption.

She's freaking. She's like, like, oh, be careful. Be careful now. There's an episode of the Simpsons where Lisa has a a vision in the future where she's really big. And she's like, get mama's prime bar.

Easy. Easy does it now. Easy. And I literally I I could hear and see it simultaneously when Connie, Yearly Smith's character was being let in. I was like, they needed mama's prying bar.

And that's my only Simpsons take I had to let off before this thing was done. Because she married Ralph. Ralph. That was her future. If she had Cho Cho chosen him.

I'll get your coat. Our And Simpsons always predicts it first. Always. And, also, what did anyone's ratings change? We've talked about this movie so much, and I just wanna know, like, spoiler alert.

I'm gonna stick at my two, what did I have? Not flying watermelons. That was my Steamroller kids. Steamroller kids. I almost went down to one and a half, and I almost thought about going to two and a half just because I've I laugh so much during this movie.

But I think one of these stars, honestly, is just for the laughter, just for some of these lines that just made me enjoy. I'll never watch this movie again in my entire life, but Mhmm. I'll go with two steamroller kids. Okay. I had an okay time.

Yeah. Rick? Yeah. I think I'm gonna stick because the one and a half was my original, and I think I love my thematic three deadly Coke cans out of five because, again, as we said, we get three nuts, ribs, skull. And that's that's the perfect amount of Coke cans you need in this world.

The trifecta. Oh, boy. I had a lot of fun talking about this movie. Eric, thank you so much for bringing it. I didn't have fun watching this movie.

I was wrong. I'll never watch it again. The heart is staying off. And also, we're at a prognosis negative here. We're gonna go from a one and a half.

I'm gonna just I'm gonna give it one load of joy. Wow. We did one, two, three here. Wow. A one, two and me.

A +1, 2123. Alright, Paul. Take us away. Tell us who helped us out making this little program. Our book and themes are Jamie Henwood, Why Are You Excited, and What You've Been Doing, are by Matthew Foskett.

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